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PF President Michael Sata

THE Patriotic Front (PF) in Lusaka has declared that its president Michael Sata will stand as presidential candidate on the PF-UPND pact ticket in next year’s general elections.

But UPND spokesperson Charles Kakoma said anybody within the pact is free to make choices of who they deem fit to stand as pact presidential candidate in next year’s elections.

PF Lusaka Province chairperson Paul Moonga said in an interview yesterday in Lusaka that the decision is non-negotiable, and that those who feel that Mr Sata is a wrong person to lead the pact are free to go their own way.

[pullquote]“We expected UPND to campaign for us in Mpulungu as we vigorously campaigned for them in Chilanga. Mr Sata told me personally that I had to ensure that UPND wins that seat, which they did,” he said.[/pullquote]

Mr Moonga accused UPND of being insincere, and said even after winning the Chilanga parliamentary by-election, it has not gone back to PF to thank its partner for helping it scoop the seat.

He said PF campaigned alone in Mpulungu, and there was no sign of the pact as the UPND concentrated on campaigning in Chilanga where they had fielded a candidate.

“We expected UPND to campaign for us in Mpulungu as we vigorously campaigned for them in Chilanga. Mr Sata told me personally that I had to ensure that UPND wins that seat, which they did,” he said.

Mr Moonga said all the wards in Chilanga are his party’s strongholds and that there is no way UPND would have won the seat without the help of PF.

He said it is wrong for UPND members to continue claiming popularity when it is obvious that PF has far more members than UPND, and can win the general elections on its own.

[pullquote]‘Our president, Mr Hichilema, held a briefing a day after the results where he thanked both PF and UPND for the job well-done. The statement by Mr Moonga, therefore, that we have not shown gratitude for their help is baseless,” he said.[/pullquote]

Mr Kakoma, however, denied that his party did not show gratitude to PF for the efforts it put into ensuring a victory for UPND

He said shortly after the Chilanga victory, UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema held a press briefing where he thanked everyone who had made it possible for the UPND candidate Cosmas Moono to win the seat.

‘Our president, Mr Hichilema, held a briefing a day after the results where he thanked both PF and UPND for the job well-done. The statement by Mr Moonga, therefore, that we have not shown gratitude for their help is baseless,” he said.

[Zambia Daily Mail]

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110 COMMENTS

  1. thus good news …. We will now start negotiating with the under 5 to cut a deal with mmd…..This under 5 must learn that there are no permanent enemies in politics… He can still cut a decent deal with RB. the end of the cobra….

  3. UPND….. please open your eyes pf dont want you as long as Sata is not pact president you either bulldosed or go your way before it’s too late.Then next year form a pact with MMD because RB will bounce back with few MPS. PF and Sata alone will lose they should not even cheat themselves.

  5. Paul Moonga ( making announcment is obviously very dull! How can PF make any announcement ragarding the presidency of the pact? Surely such an announcement should be made by the Pact for it to be valid.

    The pact has reached a cross road and all their hard work could be undone due to uncontrolled announcments from overzealous, job seeking, narrow minded cadres.

    Moonga says “those who think Sata is wrong candidate are free to leave”. So what if they do leave (including UPND Mp’s/supporters) and you end up losing the ability to form a majority government? What will your rhetoric have achieved?

    Think strategically, look at the big picture and put your foolish personal ambitions aside. Either that or we will be stuck with the likes of RB and Veteran aka Patriot.

  9. On ‘He said it is wrong for UPND members to continue claiming popularity when it is obvious that PF has far more members than UPND’, how does Mr. Moonga know that when the PF does not have membership cards?

  10. Is this Moonga twat the Pact, or even PF spokesperson??
    No single party will have an outright majority in the next parliament, meaning there will always be an opportunity to renegotiate with other parties if either PF or UPND renage on post election agreements (E.G. power sharing of key cabinet posts)

    Therefore, it may not really matter who has the presidency at this point – lets focus on our priority of removing RB and steering the country in the right direction.

    Perhaps the Pact could consider the Kenyan power sharing model (imperfect as it is )between Odinga and Kibaki. Kibaki is 79, so he will retire in 2012, at which point Raila Odinga is likely to win elections ( If not derailed by Kenyatta).

    UPND/HH could back Sata and then after 4 yrs HH could stand as Sata slows down.

  11. On “… UPND spokesperson Charles Kakoma said anybody within the pact is free to make choices of who they deem fit to stand as pact presidential candidate in next year’s elections.[..] PF Lusaka Province chairperson Paul Moonga said in an interview yesterday in Lusaka that the decision is non-negotiable, and that those who feel that Mr Sata is a wrong person to lead the pact are free to go their own way,” I am glad that PF has felt the heat coming from the ever expanding UPND group in terms of numbers in Parliament as well as National appeal.

    The desperation by PF shown by Guy Scott and now Paul Moonga is good because all sensible Zambians will know how sincere the UPND Team is in the PACT and that UPND will not chicken out of the PACT but ensure HH is 2011 presid. candid…

  13. 10 continued. This would be unprecedented in the History of Zambia’s political democracy and it would usher a new level of tolerance and political civilisation. Sata could retain an advisory, senior stateman role and his place in history would be booked.

    It would also act as a good check to HH, knowing that there was another strong candidate in the wings able to successfully challenge for the presidency should they not adhere to the development and democratic programme.

  14. Pa Zed yalikaba bakamba. Ngabwacha nishi ukuyambafye ukusata. RB akateka again 5 years. Elo mu 2016 umwana wakwe ni henry ulya kolwe uwabula umuchila akapyana RB. So next year henry alayiminina ku mawa as MP… Abena VJ nama minions yabo tetibalekelele ba PFolo UPND. Kabili nishi bena pafita. Kulya ku Mpulungu kwalilangisha ati mu ma VILLAGE emwa ama VOTES bane. Period. Bwafya.

  15. There goes the dunderheads in PF.This Pact nonsense should not be treated as news,any decent person with a sane mind will tell you that the Pact is becoming a nuisance.I thinks this is also uninspiring to would be voters,People are just put off to register as voters with the nonsense in the political arena

  18. Ba LT please spare us from this nonsense! Is this what you call newsworthy? At least nelyashi yabena Mohan ilatumfwishako mumakasa.

  19. The Pact is really a dead project. Tetamashimba (MHSRIP) even predicted this at the beginning. Some of us supported and shared these views but some lunatics on this site thought we were just MMD cadres forgetting the reality on the ground. Honestly, MMD shall rule upto 2016 and that I am sure. With or without the Pact, this shall be the case. These are my views

  20. ZOWONA,THE PACT MEANS BUSINESS ,ZAMBIAN POLITICS AT ITS BEST.LELO NI LELO, SATA FOR PRESIDENT IN 2011.GO SATA GO ,NO LOOKING BACK.

  22. The major problem with the Pact is that they have been infiltrated by MMD. Each time there is some semblance of unity out pops some strategically placed MMD infiltrators to spoil everything. Some time early this year HH warned pact supporters that the movement has been infiltrated and that soon their will be some discontents making some divisive statements. This is exactly what he meant. MMD is desperate to hold on to power and will do anything to achieve that. With this in mind there is no hope for the pact. They have to adopt a different strategy otherwise the sooner they disband the better.

  23. I don’t want to be ruled by some old chap whose mind is still in the 1980’s
    i want a president who is not recycled and has the potential to perform

  25. All that MMD needs to do is to call spur-of-the-moment or Snap General Election in January 2010. Then we all can buy ringside tickets to the boxing match between HH & SATA

    One cannot blame MMD for the discomfort and the in-fights in the Pact. They have brought this own their own accord

  27. “We expected UPND to campaign for us in Mpulungu as we vigorously campaigned for them in Chilanga. Mr Sata told me personally that I had to ensure that UPND wins that seat, which they did,” he said.- This is a very interesting statement. PF could ensure that UPND win in Chilanga but were unable to ensure that they themselves win in Mpulungu?

  28. Another bag of Popcorn please and this time add the butter. The “PACT” show is on.

  30. I have minor concerns with RB.I will definately vote PANKOLOKO.He seems to be the sober president so far and I believe he even a good man.NICHWECHWE Chabe.Wina alila…

  32. I am very confident of the future of the country. I do hope that the pact take over because they have demonstrated that they have the vision and unity building skills to move the country forward. I am particularly impressed by the leaders of the two party who are showing a commendable spirit of self-sacrifice by putting the interests of the country above their own personal ambitions.

  34. PACT DIED IN MUFUMBWE AND YET THE PF CLUB WITH NO CARDS OR CONVENTION AND ITS UNDER 5 PARTNER UPND NEVER SEIZE TO AMAZE

    EVERYTHING ELSE AFTER MUFUMBWE HAS JUST BEEN POLITICAL TRICKERY.

    AS THE PF SAYING GOES: DON’T KUBEBA
    HH AND UPND ARE DUMB FOOLS THAT WILL BE DUMBFOUNDED WHEN THEY FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHO SATA IS AND WHY HE HAS A STATUE OF A COBRA IN HIS OFFICE.

    IT’S ONLY SAD THAT HH ACTUALLY THINKS HE IS THE ONE PLAYING A GAME OF NUMBERS ON SATA AND UPND HAS BEEN USING ITS WINS AS A LITIMUS TEST.
    HH NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFIN.
    THE ONLY REASON HE HAS HAD GOOD RESULTS IS BECAUSE PF HAS VOTED FOR UPND CANDIDATES

  35. Sata can’t lead pact — UPND

    The United Party for National Development (UPND) in Livingstone has maintained that PF president Michael Sata is not the best candidate if the UPND/PF Pact is to win the 2011 general elections.

    Livingstone UPND district treasurer Winason Nguni said Mr Sata was rejected in Western, North-Western, Central, Copperbelt rural, Eastern and Southern provinces.

    “Mr Sata is losing local Government elections in Northern and Luapula provinces. From where will Mr Sata get his votes to win next years’ elections? Mr Sata has more than 20 members of Parliament he calls rebel MPs and he has refused to reconcile with them on account that they participated in the National Constitution Conference (NCC),” Mr Nguni said.

  36. MOONGA IS SPOT ON

    SATA IS JUST LETTING HH CONTINUE THINKING THAT UPND HAS MADE GAINS BUT IN ACTUAL FACT UPND IS WOUNDED AND ALL THIS WILL COME TO LIGHT WHEN ITS TIME KUBEBA.
    THE TRUE TEST OUT OF THIS IS THAT PF HAS BEEN POPULAR ENOUGH TO GIVE UPND THE EDGE IN ELECTIONS
    BUT UPND HAS FAILED TO RECIPROCATE. AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF MARRIAGE SATA WOULD GO INTO READY TO SACRIFICE POWER YET KNOWING THAT HE PROVIDED MOST OF THE VITAL VOTES.
    WE KNOW SATA.
    HE WILL STRIKE LIKE THE COBRA HE IS WHEN THE MOMENT IS RIPE.

    BUT WILL IT BE ENOUGH???
    HH- HAKA IVOTELA HEKA
    SATA- NAKOTA KUSHIKA
    CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE
    ON THE WATCH!

  37. Mr Nguni maintained that Mr Sata was not more popular than the UPND president Hakainde Hichilema and therefore Mr Sata should not become an automatic choice as UPND-PF pact presidential candidate for the 2011 general elections.

  38. “It is important for people to understand that popularity of an individual should not be a basis to elect them as leaders. An example is of Idi Amin of Uganda who was very popular, Germany had Hitler. He too was very popular. Satan himself is also very popular and there is no country that ever wants to be ruled by any of the mentioned people,” he said.

    He maintained that good leadership had nothing to do with how popular someone was.

  39. There was need for people to understand that Zambians were looking for a qualitative leadership to develop their country and 2011 awaited them to choose leaders of high quality and that Mr Hichilema was the solution to the presidency of the pact.

  40. COMEONE DR. MUDENDA YOU ARE JUST FINISHING SPACE

    WHO WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT NGUNI?
    AND DO YOU THINK THE LANGUAGE YOU ARE USING WILL BE DECYPHAD BY PF?

    YOU ARE JUST CONSOLING YOURSELF WITH ALL THAT
    NGUNI HAS FAILED TO BRING ENOUGH VOTES FOR UPND TO WIN WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE WILL DO IT NOW

  41. YOU HAVE SAID IT, SATA WAS WEAK IN THOSE AREAS

    DYNAMICS HAVE CHANGED THIS TIME
    HH HAS LOST SOME SUPPORT IN SOUTHERN, GAINED SOME IN WESTERN
    RB HAS GAINED SUPPORT IN NORTHERN AND LUAPULA AND HE HAS HAD EASTERN ALL ALONG
    COPPERBELT AND CENTRAL ARE A TOUGH CALL
    PF IS STRONG THERE BUT MMD HAS MADE SOME GAINS, SO HAS UPND

    FROM THIS DO YOU THINK HH CAN DO IT?
    OBVIOUSLY HE CAN ONLY WIN IF IT WERE 50+1 BUT EVEN THEN THERES SATA TO BEAT

    THE FACT IS EVEN IF THE PACT WORKS
    PEOPLE VOTE FOR NAMES AND PARTIES
    MEANING THAT IF SATA WAS AT THE HELM OF PACT, MMD WILL MAKE SIGNIFICANT GAINS IN SOUTHERN, LUSAKA, CENTRAL AND COPPERBELT
    IF PACT CHOSE HH, THEN MMD WILL MAKE GAINS IN NORTHERN, LUAPULA, COPPERBELT, CENTRAL AND LUSAKA
    IT SHOWS THEN THAT PACT DOESNT CHANGE THE GAME MUCH

  42. Ofcourse I know that there is no PACT. Only a dull person cant tell what is going on in the false PACT. The thing is, since UPND unleashed its caders on PF recentlty, PF has also adopted that strategy of unleashing its cadres on UPND.

    HH under five thinks may be if they had a convention he would be elected as leader but Sata also thinks since he has a bigger party there is no need of going to the convetion. So what is happening…the result is this stalmate until 2011 september is when the PACt president will be known.

    Now listen you stu.pidy pactarian, there is no PACT in 2011, 2011 is to answer for us who is bigger between PF and UPND. The number 3 in 2011 will be a vice in the real pact in 2016.

    this coz you are selfish pipo , nonsense

  43. THE REAL GAME CHANGER IS THE BREAK UP OF THE PACT

    ONCE PACT DIES THERE WILL BE A BIG FALL OUT
    THIS IS WHERE WE WILL SEE THE GREATER POLITICIAN

    THE FALL OUT WILL LEAVE MMD, UPND AND PF FIGHTING FOR LUSAKA, SOME OF SOUTHERN, COPPERBELT, CENTRAL, SOME OF WESTERN, NORTHERN
    MMD MAY HAVE ADVANTAGE AS SOME WILL BE FRUSTRATED WITH THE GAMES
    OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF PACT MAY ABSTAIN FROM VOTING

    BUT FROM OBSERVATION YOU CAN ALREADY TELL THAT PF WILL LEAVE THE PACT STRONGER AND UPND WILL LOSE SOME SUPPORT TO MMD

    MMD WILL ALSO HAVE GAINED SOME SUPPORT IN PF STRONGHOLDS
    FROM THIS YOU CAN SEE THAT MMD HAS STRONG CHANCES OF WINNING 2011
    PF WILL BE READY TO TAKE OVER 2016
    AND UPND WILL NEED A NEW LEADER

  44. Mr. Capitalist, don’t you think that those popcorns would be more enjoyable to crunch on if you and I knew that every kid back home can afford them? It really breaks my heart to see kids unable to afford even ‘kazinga or ichiwaya,’ and yet our leaders keep patting each others back about over bumper harvest.

  45. You want to be vice to MMD but you cant be vice to PF, what nonsense!

    People know that UPND is a small party and this need not belaboured, the 3 general elections have told us. But one wonders why a person who says wants to serve Zambians insists the opposit? This is madness. Thats why in 2011 no PACT let PF and UPND go it alone so that we see who is smaller. Then in 2016 the smaller party will be the vice which I know UPND will be number 3.

    This is stu.pidity at its very best, why cant you just accept it that you are third and start compaingning together before time runs out?

    Nonsense, no PACT in 2011, you are taking Zambians for granted you uselss people.

  46. PF ARE GEARED AND READY TO BREAK THE PACT

    UPND AND HH ARE SLEEPING
    LOOK AT HOW EVERY STATEMENT FROM WITHIN PF IS THAT SATA MUST STAND AND UPND IS WEAK WHILST UPND IS SAYING LETS STICK TOGETHER AND MAKE IT WORK.

    ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT UPND ARE DESPERATELY CLINGING ON

    SATA WILL NOT BREAK UP THE PACT
    NOT NOW
    HE IS A CREATURE OF HABIT AND TIMING
    DON’T KUBEBA IS THE CARDLESS UNDEMOCRATIC CLUBS SLOGAN

    WHEN UPND FINALLY GET THE NEWS OF HH POLITICAL FUNERAL
    THEY’LL BE NOT MUCH LEFT TO SALVAGE UNTIL 2021

    HH – HAKA IVOTELA HEKA
    SATA – NAKOTA KUSHIKA
    CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE
    ON THE WATCH!

  47. Dr Mudenda@38 you are spot on. The number one criteria is not popularity but leadership qualities. The right leader should be able to unite the country, cultivate mutually beneficial relationships with donars, inspire and direct national economic revival, portray a good image of Zambia internationally and equally important for me, should not have links to the previous failures of the past governments.

    Can whoever is in charge of PR for Sata provide LT and other media bodies with a picture that brings out his good features, the one above is laughable.

    As for SIMEZA, please stop typing in uppercase, not only is it a wrong application of the English language, its also very irritating and creates the impression that you are shouting.

  48. MMD SLOGAN – THE HOUR: ON THE WATCH!

    WE WATCH CAREFULLY AND STRIKE PRECISELY
    LOOK AT 2006 AND 2008 ELECTIONS

    PF KAPONYAS AND KAPONYA BLOGGERS WERE HERE CELEBRATING WHILST WE WATCHED
    WHEN THE TIME FOR RESULTS CAME WE DELIVERED METICULOUSLY
    GAVE KAPONYAS A REASON TO CELEBRATE AND WHEN THE HOUR CAME WE TOOK THE LEAD AND WON.

    ITS NOT PERSONAL. ITS JUST OUR GAME
    UPND REMEMBERS IT FROM 2001 ELECTIONS
    BEN MWILA REMEMBERS IT FROM 1996 ELECTIONS

    YOU KNOW PF THAT SATA IS ACTUALLY A FORMER MMD PROFESSOR
    THERE’S MORE COBRAS WERE HE CAME FROM

    CHWE!! CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE
    ON THE WATCH! ON THE WATCH!

    2011 WE WILL TAKE NO PRISONERS
    VERY SOON A SOLUTION WILL BE GIVEN TO LOZIS AND DEVELOPMENT DELIVERED
    MPULUNGU HARBOR, LIVINGSTONE, KABWE AND MWINILUNGA WILL…

  50. PEOPLE IN ZAMBIA ALREADY UNDERSTAND THAT A LEADER MUST DELIVER ON PROMISES AND MUST HAVE THE BEST PLAN FOR OUR COUNTRY.

    UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED IN ZAMBIA.
    LOOK AT MAGANDE, CHIRWA AND OTHERS.
    ZAMBIAN POLITICS IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY AND POPULARITY

    TO WIN, TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, TO BRING CHANGE
    YOU MUST SPEAK THE ZAMBIAN LANGUAGE OF POLITICAL TACTICS AND POPULARITY
    WHEN IN ZAMBIA, DO AS THE ZAMBIANS

    ACTION ORIENTED LEADERS WITH CONCRETE WORKABLE VISIONS AND SOLUTIONS ARE NOT POPULAR IN ZAMBIA.
    AND THE POPULAR ONES LACK MANY OF THE VITAL QUALITIES TO SERIOUSLY IMPACT LIVES WHEN IN POWER.

    IN THE END, THE MESSAGE IS WRONG.
    ITS REMOVE MMD AT ALL COST AND THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE BUT A TOUGH SALE

    CHWE!!! CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE CHWE
    ON THE WATCH! ON THE…

  54. this simply shows how dull the PF chaps are !!look at the chap making that announcement..on what basis is he saying that and u know..we can’t have someone coz u think he’s popular but has no quality and principles…he’s a patient..cardiac patient remember and anytime that plastic may explode..!!

  55. Ati ka pact. Atase. PF must do some homework and try to discover why they can have 20,000 people at a rally a day before elections and have less than a quarter of those votes on election day. What is the composition of those masses apart from some photo editting by the post toilet-paper.

  56. I give up with Zambian politics!! you can just get a stroke and die following these. time to focus on ones own pocket pa Zed. these’s no hope anywhere..

  57. Whoever believes stories writtten by Dogs from the State Media, such as Daily Mail (Ronnies’ Dogs), they need to see a Psychiatrist to ascertain their sanity.

    When Mumbi called them Journalists by their rightily befitting name, they were set on her by Dora and Shikapwasha, and were allowed to petition parliament over it. They even brought out all the ZNBC news crews to cover the event. Yet when their petition was thrown out, no coverage.

    With their agenda so clear to see, their stories belong to the trush bin

  58. Aha ha, UPND be realistic, why do you want to defy logic, you are a less popular party and hence cannot field the president, that is the logic that you used in UDA which other parties accepted and that is the logic that is used all over the world where there are coalition GOVTs except in Zim and Kenya. What intelligence do you always claim about you teachers and policemen?

  60. Yaba,

    I’m getting tired with the PACT wrong comments by the PACT itself. This is sickening. But RB is not the altenative!!!!!!!!!!

  67. why lushing? we cant build anything without the history, fist let us compeer over this 2. under 5 and Cobra, who has don more in this country, who can groom one anther in developments, who can change mwalya mweka dad govt in fuel moths, coz the country is not like the one which we hard with ba fonko fonko, so lets choose who can deriver not money monger awee [-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-([-(

  68. Mmm Daily Mail articles written by MMD trying to cause friction – is this confirmed? If so then VIVA SATA!!!!

  69. There goes another pact news full of bull*****who has appointed Sata to be the pact President? Moonga is another********* who should close his big mouth.:-@:-@:-@[-x[-x[-x

  70. This is the way it should be. I know Sata is Bisa, but he is close enough to us the real owners of this country. HH should realise this and there should be no ukupang’ echongo.

  73. LT, this site has been infested by deluded MMD & PF psychpaths today. Keep dreaming as much as you want but the results on the ground will keep on showing the trend of the past one year i.e UPND gaining seats from MMD and PF retaining some seats and losing others to MMD. You can shout or hallucinate as much as you want but that won’t change the political dynamics on the ground. The political pendulum is swinging the UPND way. HH please keep on potraying yourself as a unity builder and more people will keep on respecting you.

  76. #53. Don’t wrong about #50 for shouting. You know some pipo during classes in there time did learn there English in capital letters. Even if u try to listern his spoken it is all in capital letters. Now blogs lets not rush into commenting when u know MAD MIND OF DISTURBANCE (MMD).Is behinde distorying the pact.Yes I will be the Vice President to Mr Sata for 5 yrs only.

  78. Reading above, is all is simply speculation. Sata and HH have not spoken on what is beeing commented above. It is bloggers thoughts. Watch the space and you will be shocked. Ignore guy Scot he is another pig killer with no direction.People do not take him serious. He is a scatter brain bent on creating confusion. No one knows what the hell he stands on. VIVA PACT VIVA SATA VIVA HH

  79. Honestly, pf cadres do not think people are so blind like you. In 2006 your candidate was least 3 in Chilanga. The race was between upnd and mmd and the winner Magande was just declared in 2008 after a re-count. Magande won Cap Moono by 50 votes after a re-count hence him Magande could not contest the seat this time around because he knew that he never won it. PF candidate was no where close to the race in 2006, as such I wonder why these pf Kaponyas want to throw mud at others when they lose. If it is true that pf helped UPND in Chilanga, then why was Moonga not aware of that fact, hence it had to take the whole lot of MC Sata to tell him that PF helped, it really shows that this party has no structures only illegal appointments. Viva UPND a party of mature people of substance.

  81. nomba you people that want change…just because the pact seems to be crambling doesnt mean that you have to support MMD! if you want change, then make it happen by not falling prey to this ‘divide & conquer’ strategy that the MMD has pulled over PF/UPND pact!

  82. Zed wake up call. Pact is waste of time. Let us encourage Sata and HH to compete against each other. Predict results! Both will end up in ICU. ZED let us listen to the brainy Presidential candidates emerging. Sata, HH, Bwezani are not our MOSES! Period!

  83. # 69 you are not bemba, you cannot even write bemba. Stop addressing yourself as such as you are insiting people against us bembas. If you do not stop I will lobby for bembas to take interest and we will hire James Kasamanda to investigate who you are and we will sue you for damages.

  84. Let’s face it, the real issue is to take RB back to the farm. At the moment Sata is the best person to do that, what with HH as the Pact and Republican Vice President. Wanya Rupiah

  85. Only those with gullible minds and easily swayed by the MMD ‘s pro]aganda machinery can believe that Paul Moonga is today the PACT spokesperson. let Moonga be let to live in that turpsy turvy dom. His wishful thinking does have a bearing on what is obtaining on the ground.It is not long ago that MMD hasd to boot out that boolicker from its camp. Come 2011 he will never be in PF because sata is not going to be the president of this country.

  86. Yes, Zambia needs change of direction. Unfortunately Sata, especially with the current constitution in place, is not the right person to implement that change. That is the reasoning of most raational thinking Zambians and as long as some diehard PF cadres insist on having Sata as pact presidential candidate the pact issue is going nowhere. The pact will only work if it is led by HH or anyone else from PF other than Sata. This is the real issue at hand and that is the reason for the deadlock. MMD are deliberately stiring up things so as to force Sata’s candidacy of the pact because that is the election strategy they have prepared for. They are worried about facing anyone else hence the panic!

  87. we nid the pipo who can think big.hh coe out of pf as they r sayin they can win without u. u r stil young u can stil compain more over u r stil young ,energic.we love u hh

  88. Sata can neva b pact presido. This moonga maniac is jst try to make silly headlines. Wen UPND was in chilanga no single report was head about them on the vuvuzela. All we saw was pf in mpulungu. Knw dat upnd is capable of winnin even without coverage frm the vuvuzela. Ba sata jst go to sleep u bafoon

  90. pipo of zambia,believe me,the pact is to work.these pipo who are making issues they just want to be heard.dont listen to these kokolochiz like paul moonga.you see these pipo who drink tujilijili are problem.wen that alcohol starts working,they will just talk any how.and u times of zambia u are not fair the way u cover these pipo.especially the pact,go to given lubinda spokesperson for PF,go to kakoma UPND and gets the facts.dont just chase these chaps,u are not building the truth.wat u do is madness.is wat rupiah banda tells u?u media dont be interested in confusings.its bad and madness.

  91. HH can win in 2011 elections. All he needs is to come up with a unique manifesto.
    Zambians have lost hope, all they are looking forward to is a serious leader with practical and realistic national plan i.e. Provicial Development Visions and District Economic Development Strategies.
    Go HH !

  92. Thank you Jesus finally UPND are accepting the well known fact that Mr Sata will be candidate for the pact for 2011 elections. swallow the pride and accept that PF helped UPND to win Chilanga period.

  93. You UPND please you are wasting our time. If you dont want to go with us the PF go and join MMD.

    The precedence was set by you in UDA. UPND took the presidency coz it was the biggest party among FDD and UNIP. Why is it so difficulty for UPND to accept what their friends accepted in favour of UPND?

    Please just come to your senses, If you say no, then please go your own way, we will meet in 2011 and we will see who will be number 3.

    We should not be arguing about who is biger or smaler when all the facts and evidences from the last 3 general elections are there. So please just go in peace in the same way you find us the PF.

  94. Of all you the most logical thinker is no.22. Who is Paul Moonga? A finished former MMD Lusaka………… .This chap is no figure at all in the political arena. He messed up Lusaka District. He is one of the most frustrated chaps politically and its for this reason why he is making such statements. William Banda is far better off than poor Moonga. Actually MMD will perform better than 2006. PF has zero probability of winning a seat in Lusaka in 2011. UPND and MMD are wiping Lusaka and PF is there for shocks. A lot of Phiris and Zulus didnt like Mwanawasa. Now the brother Banda is on the scene. This time the boat is sinking terribly if u r not mindful.

  97. @ 94, you piece of shit,am sending those skinheads from petersburg to come and castrate you or throw in the river like the other boy.watch out

  98. Why is it that ZNBC will always show conelius mwitwa attacking the PACT partner (PF) while they fail to cover Charles Kakoma the PACT spokesperson when he is making a clarification. We demand fair coverage. VIVA PACT

  99. thanx ba ECZ 4 the voters card but unfortunately im not going 2 vote,i dont want 2 loose my eye or leg,now the pact as becom the sinkng titanic.it is nt the appearance of a person or age that we want, it is change!com on pipo…no pact no change

  101. “PF has far more members than UPND, and can win the general elections on its own” AMANO MAMBULWA. IF U CLAIM TO FATHER A CHILD ALONE THEN Y LOOK FOR A WIFE?

  102. thats a great achievement and progress i think in a PACT to take that step now we are all clear and awere lets now go on guys “bamukukulu balaonaola icalo ngatatuposeleko amano ka.”CONGRATS MR Sata…….

  103. We all zambians know the strategy of UPND, but unfortunately will not work.

    You can manupulate parties sometimes like you did to UNIP ans FDD but you cant manipulate parties all the time ..like you will fail to manipulate PF.

    Whether UPND likes it or not you are the vice to PF, if you say no, then go and join MMD thugs and thieves. We will meet you in 2011 general election and know that that will be the end of UPND.

    Just note the game RB is playing, RB has brought Criticles Mwansa into politics….why? this is question you UPND should answer with sober mind. I am just giving you some hints of how it will be difficulty for you in 2016.

  104. Who ever will be adopted, he will have a weak campaign, as it happened with UDA. For me, let these parties go seperate ways, they will form pact after 2011 elections. Time is not with these guys..!! I hope you are all listening.!!!!. I dont see why SATA still want to lead zambia looking at his age. He is the one to set an example of allowing HH to stand. This will not mean HH is better than SATA but create harmony. From what I have head,, the pact will be doomed if they put SATA. So in this puzle let the young stand because, UPND do not trust SATA. If they had no problem with SATA all these issues would have been dead by now.!!!! Now the older one is the one acting alogantly. Sakwiba is telling UPND about the manovour of SATA when he was promised him, he will not stand in 2011. see!!!

  105. This man cannot be serious about wanting to stand! How long has he been trying, 15 years. Please go home and rest; if it is your wish to die in office and be buried next to HE Levy Mwanawasa (MHSRIP); just say so and we’ll save you your campaign money.

  106. Guys it will not help… Just go your own way instead of you always crying like babes. You dont trust Sata why do you want to be in alliance PACT with him? This is nonsense …all Zambians have come to know how stu.pidly you can think you UPNDs.

    You dont trust Sata quiet fine leave him alone then. Why are you sticking to him? As I said from above UPND is headed for extiction after 2011 elections. Just mark my words guys.

    So please, instead of Insulting Sata every day can you go in peace guys. Leave Sata alone to die alone as you will also die for ever alone.

    No more crying, the die is cast men.

    No PACT 2011 so we see which party between PF and UPND will be number 3.

  107. Some of you bloggers will end up having a heart attack, don’t you have better things to do than spending all your time posting messages which no one is interested in? Are you going through hard times in your own personal life? Sit back and reflect on your life, take some time off your computer or phone and concentrate all your efforts in addressing challenges in your life. Spending all your time campaigning for Sata, HH, RB or calling supporters of a party you don’t support all sorts of names will not help you in any way. You will not influence the outcome of the 2011 elections no matter how hard you try, so please get a life. It’s Saturday, go and have a beer or better still go to church and pray for peace in Zambia and pray for a better job to improve your life.

  108. I still have confidendence in PF. the MMD we voted in 1991 has been infested by Old UNIP guys hence the voilence. There is one man who was deported when MMD worn in 1991 he is back he is now MMD. Ichakunse ni MMD mukati ni UNIP. under UNIPMMD 1. The Chinese are shooting workers. 2. the Investors are not paying rates. eg CCS. 3.Bad banking Policies for the general public.(Money no longer the store of Value.) 4.To Much Tax collected from individuals. LEKENI SATA ATEKE. those Villagers who are my relatives and you vote for MMD do not write to ask me for money from me I will not give. When we tell you that MMD has bad money policies you dont understand. MMD has allowed banks to steal from us in the name of packages.

  109. I am going to be Vice President when Mr Sata becomes President. therefore people do not fight. We have already talked with my Old man. When Mr Sata will be sworn in as President he will immediately appoint me as Vice President. We have agreed that I will be in charge of all developmental projects from day one. for all the 5 yr term that Mr Sata will be president. of course I will be reporting to him. then I H.H will be President from 2016. all the People of Zambia will have known me. The ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION will have been strengthen. Muvotele Mudala come 2011

  110. we are all Zambians. there is no one from other country, when we choose same one let us choose same one who will help us today tomorrow and forever more. we don’t have to choose same someone for influence and other stuffs. mind you those candidates have manifestos to be read by you people.
    lets be wise.
    thank

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