Patrick Mwanawasa has responded to former vice president Enoch Kavindele’s advice for him to learn to respect elders by describing him as A finished old politician who should be the last person to give him advice.
Patrick said that he respects Mr. Kavindele as former vice president and successful businessman but advised him to save himself from being embarrassed.
Reacting to advice given to him by Mr. Kavindele that he is too young to engage himself in a confrontation with republican President Rupiah Banda, the late president Levy Mwanawasa’s eldest son observes that Zambia is a democratic nation stating that he will talk to any person in whichever way that pleases him.
Patrick, who recently defected from the ruling MMD to the opposition Patriotic Front, says Mr. Kavindele should realize that the political dispensation in the country is changing.
He says the last elderly leader to be given a mandate to run the country will be PF leader Michael Sata, who he says should also serve only five years and leave office for the young generation.
[QFM]
Patrick is only following the example led by veteran politicians – insulting each other at every opportunity.
So stop complaining.
Patrick Mwanawasa you are Finished that is not good polities see Sata is also finished because of insulting people every opportunity he receives is to insult. patrick sorry you a re stubborn child and you will not cross the lines to parliament with that stubborness youth do not vote only big people give votes and blessings
he is coming up well, thats the way we describe the f**LISH adults
Lol!….The YOUTH are taking over!…ifya “umukulu mukulu” panse!!…
whilst respect towards elders is imparative….this is politics…and Kavindele, according to Patrick, is a finished politician…RB,according to Patrick, is stubborn. Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade and not a ‘big spoon’
What about Sata
Hahaha sosa! Pabwato!!!!
Chifundo
iwe ba patrick chifundo. i oredy see the down fall of patrick b4 his carrer begins. Politic is not about yapping young man. I see a mike mulongoti in yo rantings. I admire politicains like felix, chituwo who dont insult but work. Hold yo fire young man……people can judge.
At the level he has started, the boy is going nowhere. Believe you me. Boma ni Boma especially ngati MMD ya wina futi. Azacuca m’fana. He should learn from people like mbita chitala, veteran politicians and highly learned but he confessed that he is even failing to send his children to school now. Him even his grade 12 results should be poor. We shall see him soon after the elections.
CHILL OUT SON!!
Hahahaha….. I’m sure Sata is holding a meeting to chase Patrick, you think Sata would only rule for 5 years? the man would even change the constitution to get a third term.Â
I think patrick has no respect, i don’t think it is appropriate for him to say that about Kavindele, the man is an accomplished politician, he was MP for several years and he was Vice president. I think the boy should just go back to school and get a life, his political life is going nowhere, to be a leader, like he wants to be an MP, he need to be humble, Zambians are not foolish, people will vote him out, he should as Sata.
Respect in never demanded . It is earned. MMD fulls dont deserve respect
Kindly stop using my Paramount Chief’s name. This is an official complaint to LT Editor to bar this uncultured Zambian showing disrespect to my Inkhosi ya MaNkhosi, Paramount Chief Mpezeni. Kusoba Ulemu.
With all due respect poltices or not, we are all brought up to have respect for one another. We are governed by the rule of law, regardless of age, colour,tribe or gender. So as a people we need to respect each other. Patrick is not doing himself any favours by insulting those that worked with his dad.. You can not go around insulting Mr Kavindele, let alone the president! How would this boy have felt if the Kavindele children went around insulting his father or the Banda children insulted his father. There is a line here and the young man has crossed it, Please do not take it for granted that PF is winning it, Then again if Mr Sata became presidentÂ
You will insult him because l don,t see him giving a spoilt brat like him the time of the day
Ya you are coming up well.
Patrick learn the game of politics first before your HEAD grows BIG, learn from my Former School Mate MUBIKA MUBIKA whom your own FATHER GROOMED. He is succeeding in his Political Career without questions. Swallow your PRIDE and get groomed by the SAME GENERATION OF OLD and FINISHED POLITICIANS you are despising today.
People like no 8 are cowards to join politics.If patricks political carreer is going nowhere,its not your baby to carry.Thats why zambia is full of useless politicians becoz of cowards like you and most of them are educated.We will contnue to be ruled by thugs and thiefs and sons of satan called pastors.What makes you think the younger generation have no ight to participate in zambian politics.U are busy discribing patrick us sturbon yet RB childen are busy rooting this country.If Rb’s children have the right to do business in zambia why shud patrick not take part in politics.
when you join PF ..thats what happens..look at Sylvia Masebo now..Patrick mwaiche waitaya..respect the elderly irrespective of what positions u may have been promised..EK is a senior man and knows what he’s talking about..don’t be like Wynter Kabimba..and Satana..
I we pulamasaka u do u think uar? let the young man alone no one has refused u to join politics. EK is just paying back to RB for wat he has been given thats y he never stood for any position at their convetion so just shut up viva patrick viva the youth thats the spirit we want not the old taking advantage for nothing were did they start from were they old wen they started politics ala ukutumpa.
All the old warthogs RB, Reverend Satan Horny Shikapwasha, George Kunda, Kavindele, VJ Mwanga must go and give chance to new leaders. Do they think we can’t do without them? If they were that good at what they do by now they would have learned to live independently of political jobs. What normal man keeps holding onto a government job for decades without improving his own welfare. Move the F/U/C/K out and leave leadership to the youths. You rotten methane f/arts are polluting our environment with your corruption and dull UNIP mentalities. You can’t think clearly. One wonders if you at all have brains you decaying orangutan feecees
Patrick, wait until you cross the bridge. This is my humble appeal to you son of a former President. We had high respect for the late LPM (HISRIP). But the speed at which you are cruising, you may just crush soon.
Goerge Mpombo was more vacal than you but today he is not contesting, all his deams have been shuttered. Soon he may be seen cashing another blunk cheque. Hold your fire young Man .
You re merely surrounded by voulchers who want to chew with you the little that your Father left behind.
By the way is this the son to Maureen or what? Because if he was, Maureen could have indeed advised this young man like the Aunt is trying to do
No Maureens children are well groomed and have no business riding on daddy’s name- they work hard in their own right. This one and the other drunkard girl were from “outside catering” oh pat from the first wife. Hope his mother can call him back to suck his milk one last time!
No mwana wakusangamo
Let Mr. Sata pump discipline in this spoiled Patrick who feels can not be advised as if he knows a lot, like he did to his beloved GBM over his wife battering behavior. This GENERATION will not FORGIVE Mr. Sata for not providing guidance to this misguided PRODIGAL SON. Â
How Patrick can join a party led by a man who called his own father ‘a cabbage’, and who claimed that his late father only sent him to South Africa for medical attention for a political gimmick is beyond me and just shows how unprincipled this young drunkard is.
Respect for Elderly politicians…..my foot. Rupiah Banda and his fellow elderly politicians are the ones who have brought so much misery to millions of Zambians. Good for Patrick for putting the Kavindele in his place.
This young man needs to do alot of growing up before he can start saying such things about other politicians, our President Mr Michael Sata must urgently look into this matter before this juvenile politician jeopardises our political party!
kavindele cud be write but he is compromised in that he wud say anything to please rb 4 buzness reasons.N/W railway thing is all his focus.leave the youngman to try his lucky in politics.do not remind him about his late dad,talk to him a politician in his own right.
Mayo mayo napapa!!!
bwana kavindele,extend yo honest advice to siulapwa,cifire,and the chief youths in mmd attacking cycle matta daily.are they not young ,too?
icunsu na cho!! anyway thats the culture weve learned as youths its very correct to disrespect elders,insult name cally but only in politics so there is nothing wrong with patricks statement patiliki maka yamucunsu
EK only offered advise..which can be taken or rejected…so really young Patrick no need to called old EK a finished politician even if in your view he is..its sometimes best to think but not say it..but it might come from your inability for having failed to obtain degree…does reflect memory lapses or better still lack of grey matter too much white….
Democracy is all about freedom of speech and right to opinion….he has not killed a soul…so he is right in his own terms…viva mwaiche…
That’s what I call a leader in the making. Brave, Forcefull, intelligent, and has the exposure. We have not had these types in Zambia among the youth. A sign the time is right for the new world to take it’s place. Keep going Patrick, the youth and reasonable older ones are behind you.
SON OF THE “MOTHER OF ALL CORRUPTIONS”.
SAY NO MORE.
I can’t agree more with the you man. Yes indeed the generation if tired, disfunctional old stiff and Incorrigible mind is over. See this is what we’ve been seeing our entire time that you cannot debate with elders and you can only agree with whatever shit spoken. I would say young man, don’t be a coward. These are stupid bootlickers that have no place in Zambia
The beauty about advice iz that you can take it or leave it. There iz no need to respond to everything people say about you. I only hope Patrick will not respond to hiz aunt Evelyn.Â
What do you expect the young Patrick who is still wearing the same suit he wore during his father’s funeral?. You see, I have seen something common about those insulting the old man RB, they expected something from him but were not given. Look at Panj, Masebo, now its Pato…
add post newspapers, nkandu Luo, mangani, the list is endless. If RB didnt allow you one or two things then he is not presidential material. Think beyond your stomach!
Shame on you, Dont Ask, Dont Tell, Dont Kubeba,
So, this civilised stupidity type of political patronage is what you want us to have in Zambia?
Grow up… Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youths u nid to unite bt i kn see u ar tryin to brin ze young man down. its time for young leaders to take over not leaders like siulapwa but real young leaders. By the way can some one help me with info on what they knowabout this power club from Italy, is it genuine?
This is exactly the frustration besetting Zambians. Leave the young man a lone you tired, dysfunctional, and heartless fools. The tide is changing. Zambia is for the young generation.
Patrick. Mr Kavindele’s advise is a good one. Learn from it. He meant well despite any shortcomings he may have. I do recall that at a rally in Mandevu, Humphrey Siulapwa in the presense of RB, Nawakwi and all those who campaigned for RB in the Presidential by -election publicly called Mr Sata who is his Father by age as “ISHILU” (mad person) when he was given a chance to speak. To my dismay all the ADULTS that were there RB inclusive did not stop the misguided young man (Siulapwa) from using such a bad word to an adult three times his age. Hence lets condemn anything wrong and not wait until it affects our favourite.
It is very unfortunate that Patrick would start his political career in this Manner. Patrick You can never win support by insulting people like Mr. Kavindele who have done a lot for Zambia more than you have. As much as we want a new and younger generation to take over our government, we need to be humble. your pride will be your downfall. instead of focusing on insulting people i would like to advice you to sit down and plan how you can help our nation to go forward and help many of our country men and women who are still living on a dollar a day.
politics of i think is not what many are looking for. people are looking for politicians who have a vision, a plan, a purpose and a desire to serve the people and not to be served. Don’t attack people but tell the people your vision for Zambia
I think LT should be using verbatim with inverted commas especially if the news maker made some statements that may be judged strong by some readers as in this case. As it is, I can only speculate about the exactness of the words ascribed to Patrick. Otherwise I see him as him as being more experience politically than Siulapwa and co if only he had observed and learned from his father’s long political career and 8 years as Republican President. Usually his arguments are very bold and balanced. I wish the so-called youth NGIs would imitate him regardless of the party they support.
Whilst we yearn for the young to take over from the old dogs. Its not the Patrick Mwanawasa strategy that we are advocating for. We want clean progressive, and issue based politics not what Patrick is trying to propagate. And serious Kavindele’s advise was well in order. Unfortunately there seem to be many who think its okay for Patrick to say what he said. There should be a time in life when you are proud of who you are and your culture just like the people we try to copy from are proud of their culture.
Looks like this kid has become a news make in Zambia and is now on a roll
#20 I totally agree with you. PF needs to show leadership here and I hope they are not endorsing his rants. If the general public perceive PF as immature and disrespectful, not only to old people as adults, but to old people as fellow human being created in God’s image, then PF’s image could suffer.
Leadership is about respecting all people regardless of their beliefs and opinions and am afraid the tragedy is that this boy has mentors who don’t hold these values and it is also sad that he didn’t finish school, but dropped out despite his father’s effort to send him to the best schools money can buy. So there is really no hope in hell that this boy can even pick a book on leadership and read.
We have a disaster and train wreck unfolding before our eyes.
Patrick the people who are praising you now for been a champion of insults will not be there for you tomorrow and they will laugh at you one day as a young man without wisdom. Be careful. I believe people of Zambia will appreciate you so much if you bring forward your plan to help Zambia move forward.
Mwaiche i hope you were cooked in very powerful waters, because bazakulowa. You are right in saying you have got the right and you are right about kavindele. The only problem is that you are not being diplomatic with your choice of words
Boma Ni Boma, hope he is praying PF carries the day…but i still dont think its right for him to dis respect EK, ..i like the earlier comment on practical politicians like Mutati, Chituwo and Mubika Mubika
For those of you calling patrick names and the nonsence about respect don’t you think that it was going be better for Kavindele to call him aside for advice instead doing it through the press? Any one will hit back this is the world of free speech, I have never herd kavindele give advice to that young girl Dora who looks like a gogo ( granma) at such a young age? If a person is stubborn they are stubborn, ss.t.u.p.I.d is they way it is and finished is factual as we see it.
WHO TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS RESPECT IN POLITICS?
People please listen. Respect for elders should be given nangu chipuba shani. This young man is just very excited right now and it is not good for him. What he should be doing is what the youth of Zambia want new style of politics that is issue based. He had that opportunity when the the Kitwe mayor issue arose, best he would have done was to disscuss the issue maturely and gain himself some respect out of it. Now each he opens his mouth people who are looking for a new Zambia will not want to listen to him. He clearly is not an agent of change and his character is very poor. A change agent looks at a situation and thinks how can I come in and make it better not aggratvate the situation. Patrick calm down you not an MP, you are a nominee from an opposition party, big difference.
Personally I dont regard Patrick as a Politician,he is just using the honourable name of his late respected father to to dishonour the person whom his own father honoured by appointing him Veep when he was no where near the corridors of power. Patrick has a lot to learn instead of aligning himself with the PF
@Chief Mpezeni#9,dont even use the name Mpezeni because you are one of the people with no respect and cant even spell your words correct.Elders are elders,he shouldnt just get excited like his won already.Politics should be of respect to people because they are the ones to vote someone into power.Knowledge is obtained from elders that have been there,done that…..
PATRICK!!count yo self luck to get the advice from the elderly pipo,like it or not,ears will never grow taller than the head.that means the head remains the head,and ears remains ears no mather
what.i am sure you have learnt from the former heads kaunda and chiluba s children s behaviour.therefore you should be in the better position to lead by example,if not yo destne will be worse .
Patrrick has joined the right political party where insults are normal.Real and well mannered people will advice him and many others to sober up.You cant join the PF and not insult.insults are a trade mark of the PF.If sata could not allow elections in this party,how then can he agree to rule for just a term?Does the wonder boy who failed to impress his late father agree with sata that indeed the later was right to his father ‘cabbage’?
Thanks Ndine for your analysis, let’s codemn what is wrong even when it invloves the people we support, in that way we earn respect on this blog. Personally, i think Kavidele just gave an adivise which that boy should have either taken up or ignore it but calling Kavidele names it did not boil well with my culture. Politicians communicate to each other through the media, i listened to him speak on QFM…he is an eptome of arrogance, very soon am seeing him rubbing the throats of hard working PF founders if not put in check, he is in over-drive. Though i believe president sata can’t fail to tame him.
PATRICK has completely misunderstood EPK’s fatherly advice.If the young man was as intelligent as he is supposed to be his reaction would not be confrontational.It is grossly irresponsible for him to say that RB cannot bring him down.The young man’s political roots have not yet solidified and he has the cheek to say he cannot be brought down.If he cannot fuel his own vehicle at this juncture what else?His own mentor George Mpombo is having problems retaining lawyers including his own compatriot in the PF Winter Kabimba has deserted him.What does it smell?
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and they who live by it grow in understanding… Prov 9:10. There is no wisdom in in the young man. Successful leaders started their political careers in a humble manner and not by insulting elders. Remember “Patric is not Levy” and Patrick should build his own good name by been humble. Already intelligent people have ruled out the young man from the future wise young leaders. RESPECT ELDERS MWEBANA ! ALA INTAMBI NI NTAMBI. How are you going to rule people without good CULTURE of respecting elders? Even people advising the young man have become enemies! Calm down we mwana. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ABOUT? WHAT HAPPENED?
Patrick may be right but his approach may be new to Zed politics…i totally support leadership transtion from old to new,….We need more Patricks …Mandela at Patrick age was arrogant and stubon…now he is a global icon….lets’ not hide behind respect and all this execuses…Patrick you have my BIG vote….
We youths we should become more vibrant, couragious and dynamic inorder to take over our country’s political ventures, just like our fathers fought for our country 45 years ago. After this years election no more old folks in state house, so youths of Zambia lets be united in our thoughts and actions, time to act is now. youths of Zambia arise”””””””””””
Well EK was speaking from his own personal experiences after he was kicked out of Mulungushi Rock when he tried to challenge Bwana Mukubwa Kenneth Buchiza Kaunda for the UNIP and Republican Presidency. If I were patrick I would listen to EK then call him and tell him privately to keep his advise to himself.
Rupiah will not announce election date until he has given out all the free things he has to garner him more votes, this is the most undemocratic thing a leader can do…
– Geysers
– Houses
– power cables
– Funerals
– Loans
Patrick( Without Levy) Mwanawasa is a desparate youngman who has failed to make meaningful progress in his priviledged life. Very soon he will be kicked away from the PF. He just stepped on Sata by saying he should step down after 5 years. Sata will lose this year and he wont step down from PF
Patrick is just a young fool riding on his late father’s glory. We do not want fools like this to imagine they can provide the leadership we want. His late father struggled to make sure he got a good education, a good degree and establish a reputable law firm. He was a self less, self made leader who joined politics as a mature and successful man. He appreciated his humble beginnings. Not this kaponya who wants shortcuts to success. We refuse to let him be a national leader. He has no qualities. He will insult anyone as and when he chooses.
It doesn’t mean because your dad was president, you can also be president. ****** we!!!!
Have manners young man. Your behaviour so far shows NO wisdom. You are tarnishing your father’s good image. Don’t abuse your privileged position.Â
Patrick,
Please focus on your campaign and ignore comments from elder statesmen. Do not engage in battles that may divert your attention and ambition. I wish you all the best.
Old men and women, politics is a dirty game. If you don’t want to be soiled, leave politics for the yourng ones. And for you mwaiche Patrick, don’t think you are a star. Any way, you look like ‘jim Kelly’ the karate star we grew up knowing in the seventies….and chunky too!
W@ shud we call a stubborn elderly person? W@ shud we call a finished elderly politician? Wr r the insults PM.Jr uttered?Â
Zambia is plunging into a deep pit the young ones we want to rule us are full of insults and have no respect for elders, are not cultured. What next, insults, swearing and disrespecting adults will be introduced in schools if the young generation get to rule Zambia
Lets all give support to the younger lad he may start at a wrong foot but he is right Sata ka five years….. we all have been complaining about old recycled politicians well Patrick has started let all you who have been hiding as banned intellectuals in the political arena come out with one voice and support younger generation….. Viva Patrick for PF President
I still await to read the insults and bad language being attributed to Patrick. Seems like most people here are just rambling about respect but cannot state or point out the words that fall in the disrespect category. Probably there is a new definition for insults and strong language that has not been published yet. The last time I checked, the word embarrassment was not an insult. The words “cannot bring me down” was not an insult. In the last USA debate between Obama and Senate McCain, when Obama called the senator “John” I was like wow, this young man has no respect, then I thought about. I found that there was no other way to call him. That is his name, John. So, if someone advises the older guy the embarrassment of being dragged in the political mud slinging, is that an insult?
For the child to live longer, must fisrt respect his/ her parents
I wish this young man a good campaign and the best. People, even if you would like to be in his political position, wish him success. The young man has picked a very winnable constitute and I do believe MMD and RB is not happy about him going to the other party. Probably it is what he is seeing on the ground that has ticked him off from MMD and RB. Probably Banda must lead the way in respecting and letting off steam on young people. Does anyone recall the behavior of RB on Shakafuswa and late Chibombamilimo? That is Banda at his best. He is dangerous and very cunning. Who wants such a leader?
# 66, what if it is the elders who are provoking the situation? What if the elders are meddling in the young ones lives? What if the elders are lacking wisdom as evidenced in William and Rupiah Banda and they are always in your face? How many countries in Africa have been led by hopeless evil selfish stealing corrupt elders? So, just because they are elders, people must suffer perpetual poverty, perpetual torture, perpetual corruption. Hell no! Someone must be able to stand up and stop it.
:d Partick uleisa bwino sana. continue. respect is earned not forced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#67 Kalos2121. you seem to be missing the point. it is the idea of Patrick using such language like calling kavindele a finished politician that can not be tolerated in our society. Even if he is finished there is a better way to put it. Dont even try to compare in terms of american life style to us. last time I went to a mens changing room at the gym and there was a man in his late fifties with his kids probably ages 6 and 12yrs all naked changing, the kids calling dad. I was frozen.
Patrick mwaiche teka umuma tee panshi. U will be finished before u start. Don’t mess with the men in black. They will hang u by the bal.ls and leave u for the hyaenas.
Patrick is right, Sata does not have the strength to go for a secounf term.
Abana ba muchani tabakwata umucinshi iyo!!! Nangu nibakalamba bena kutukafye!!! That’s Patrick. She can’t even be advised by his step mother moureen.
Patrick is a he not a she
Your father’s soul is not happy son. Your father was a man of intergrity and he would have never made a decision of joining PF. He would have never rubbed shoulders with the serpent. Dont be surprised if bad things start happening to you. Mashamo ayo.
Rupiah himself indicated he was a stuboorn Man. What’s the problem with calling him stubborn when he actually is. If Rupiah or Kavindele think there been insulted they should pack there bags and go back to the farms. Things have changed and we don’t expect them to be respected in this period of time.
I sense Mr Sata becoming uneasy with the young man, his free thinking is clearly not compatible with Sata’s dictatory style of politics. I wouldnt be surprised if he is not adopted…….
“….the late president Levy Mwanawasa’s eldest son observes that Zambia is a democratic nation stating that he will talk to any person in whichever way that pleases him……..”, now this is democracy pf style and lingo. i will not lower myself to pf level by making further comments on this topic.
Cabbage jr uses POST language unfortunately, when he says he ‘will speak whichever way he pleases’, as far as the mentors, the POST are concerned thats the definition of democracy.
You and me know thay are wrong, but that was what they used to oppose media regulation…..to say whatever they like about anything anytime without being advised or accepting any advice…..Lincoln would be shocked at this new definition.
Patrick should be worried. I have never heard sata’s comment ever since Patrick’s resignation from MMD to join the pf. The PF president is quite over the matter. That should ring bells to Patrick. The old man is good at using people. He is just using the useless boy to gain political mileage in kafulafuta constituency.
ama politics yabonse.its a game were opponents kick each other vebally and later remain friends.Nimbola kulabayamo insapato nga ba striker sana.
Spot on! Thats my boy Patrick we are behind you!
the problem kavindele thinks we will all benefit from the contracts he has been awarded
Kavindele, a finished politician…
like Rupiah…. :-)
If someone is a finished politician, what better way is there to say it than calling a spade a spade? Bwana you can sweet coat chloroquine but remember that inside that, it is still the same bitter pill. Africa has lagged behind due to such mentalities of fearing authorities even when they are wrong. People must learn to question and stand up for what is right and voice out when they see suppression from the so called leaders. Patrick is within the confines of his rights to say what he is saying, and I have not heard one tell us any insults as purported by most MMD bloggers who want to derail the young’s political career.
The boy can’t believe that he can no longer walk into and out of State house anytime he wants. He is bitter at the moment. Leave him alone he wants to go back to State house, this time as his own man.Â
eeh mu zi siila bana ba esa ko mu zazi sebanya
to hell with all these fairytales…late Patrick speak..I may NOT AGREE TO WHAT HE SAID BUT I WILL DEFEND HIS RIGHT TO SAY IT…
Let not late
Mwaiche patrick be aware. Your statement most assuredly has annoyed King Cobra. He might not even give you the Kafulafuta seat to contest. That would mean you getting finished before you get started politically. Mature up and be wise, also think before you say something. Besides, learn to consult those smarter than you are coz I see some element of unrealism and alittle dullness.
Nothing wrong Patrick,
This is it, shut them up. They have nothing to offer and many bloggers here are paid for boot licking and hero worshiping of RB.
Do not fear you are in the academy put up the pressure I mean up up up the pressure they will disintegrate soon, Haven’t you noticed how the big man MCS is doing it? that is the way that is how you get noticed it works very well
Do it again, tell them all including Rev of Satan, tell him off soon they will stay away. Then in 2016 they will all be behind you. I admire your Father’s character.
Painfully I agree with those that call our culture primitive. It is primitive to dare defend the notion that one that is elderly/older should be immune from criticism by those younger, irregardless of the relevance of this criticism. Kavindele is both a government official and a contractor for/with the government making him a highly immoral person clearly more vested in his personal interests than he is the growth of our nation. Only i d i ots would rush to defend his honor. He is a highly paid individual, in a place to be questioned by the public, that is the expectation that comes with his duties that he asked for. Let us use collective reasoning for once and put this political BS aside. Lets strive to have mature and sensible discussions that reflect a sensible culture.
patrick is very dull
Patrick wants to challange Sata by the way is he a jah man does he smoke ulubangula? lets just ignore the young man just as we did to Mushota
and you are bright? Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Patrick, good job – who appointed Kavindele as your political mentor anyways? Go ahead and fulfill your God given destiny. Don’t worry about what ungrateful pack of some lazy Zambians say about you. They have no life to live other than bootlicking and grovelling. Ignore the stupid propaganda about Sata. Sata never said he hates you. Even if he did – so what?
Typical of a PF cader. What more did you expect from the youngman?
Firstly,Ba Enock Kavindele should have advise the young man outside the press,from the look of things Ba Kavindele wanted to reap something from the issue,you reap what you sore,Ba Kavindele begin with your children first.When people say you are not wise,reflect on it and see where you go wrong and make corrections,do not rush to say you are not being respected
This boy is so arrogant, even surpassing Mpombo. You join today and tommorrow you are saying Sata should only serve one term. Do you know sata you? This is a man who wanted a third term for Chiluba? and here is a newsflash!!!! PF is personal property of Sata. he will flush you out of PF and you will disappear from the political toilet faster than human waste
Some of you are attacking this young man out of jealousy. The young man is more popular than some of your entire clans. Let the young man ride the wave. Some of you are so damn that you are unknown even 2 blocks from your homes. Some of you are sometimes even forgotten by people in your homes. They have to ask who you are and what your names are. So, please leave the lad alone. Jealousy down. Chitanawe!
Patrick is a grown up 28 year old man and knows what he is talking about. I finished my Masters degree at 28 years old and my PhD at 32 years. Can somebody say I was immature when I finished my studies? Leave the young man alone. He knows what he is talking about. This is the freedom of expression all you bloggers also have.
Bakuwe leave Patrick alone. Rspect Rupiah Banda for what? How do we respect someone who is married to a girl fit enough to be his own daughter? What is wrong with the brians of Zambians? Even if it means uku belela it is not the way. It does not surprise me we are the way we are. Akantu ku ma painti ba kolwe
if dora sily can insult the in coming president mr sata why can’t we do the same with the leaders of MMD who are useless so patrick is 100% correct
The boy is overzezlous
Having an ambition is different from being overzealous. If you have no ambition, please don’t call those that do as being overzealous.
Batuke futi na futi bafi-colour nabatumpa sana. The gimmick of using age as a shield to stupidity is long gone. Boma ni Boma nonsense. Who owns the boma? So what if they squeeze him? Na futi na futi ba fikala RB na Kavindele