THE Barotse Royal Establishment (BRE) has apologized to the Technical Committee on Drafting the Zambian Constitution for joining the ongoing Constitution Convention in Mongu late.
THE Barotse Royal Establishment (BRE) said that it attached great importance to the country’s Constitution-making process.
The Litunga said this through three Indunas he sent as delegates to represent the BRE at the Convention which started on Monday and is ending on Saturday.
The three Indunas included Namuyamba Esineke, Namunda Katanekwa and Saywa Meebelo.
Addressing members of the Technical Committee at Mongu Teachers Training College in the afternoon, delegation leader Induna Esineke said the BRE was committed to taking part in the Constitution-making process so that it felt a sense of ownership was the document was produced.
“We are also attaching the same importance to this national undertaking and we are glad to be participating, to come and participate although late.
“It’s true (that) when it (Constitution) comes out finally it will actually create that sense of ownership even in us that we played a part,”Induna Esineke said.
Induna Esineke said the BRE delegates were looking forward to taking part in the Convention besides apologizing on behalf of the Litunga for joining the Convention a day after it had started, saying that was owing to other equally important commitments at the Palace.
“We are merely apologizing on behalf of the King for coming late because we had quite a lot of things to do. We were so busy at the Limulunga Royal Village. We had this and that to do and by the time we finished we were behind time. However, we thought (that) it’s much better to be late than never,” he said.
Welcoming the trio, Technical Committee chairperson Annel Silungwe said it was gratifying that the BRE had sent the three to represent it at the Convention and was looking forward to their participation in the Constitution-making process which he said would be concluded at the end of June this year.
[pullquote]“I hope that they (Indunas) will give us the freedom to interact freely because our climate in the Convention may not be able to accommodate all of us to kneel down at the same time,” he said.[/pullquote]
Justice Silungwe was hopeful that the Technical Committee would in June produce the Final Draft Constitution, a report documenting its work and Constitution Bill, all of which would be presented to President Michael Sata and was optimistic that the subsequent Republican Constitution would be satisfactory to the nation as well beneficial to the current and future generation.
“We would like to express our happiness at the fact that we are being joined by senior members of the Royal Establishment. This is a very important national undertaking. It is something that should normally be done very rarely and we trust that this time around we are going to finalise the Constitution-making process.
“We trust that you will find the occasion worthwhile and that you will make notable contributions to the process,”Justice Silungwe said.
Newly-elected Western Province Constitution Convention chairperson Bernard Silumesii sought permission from the Indunas to allow the Convention participants to freely debate in their presence.
“I hope that they (Indunas) will give us the freedom to interact freely because our climate in the Convention may not be able to accommodate all of us to kneel down at the same time,” he said.
The arrival of the Indunas comes a day after Western Province Permanent Secretary Bert Mushala implored the Technical Committee on Monday to consider creating room for late entries of delegates from the BRE.
Among the Technical Committee members that welcomed the three Indunas were Patrick Mvunga, Mwangala Zaloumis and Suzanne Matale. Western Province Constitution Convention facilitator Thabo Mubuka was also present.
These are things which makes one wonder where the true position of the Lozi populous is.One time you hear that they don`t anything to do with Zambia ,the other day you hear the opposite.It is so confusing.
Meant to say-These are things which makes one wonder where the true position of the Lozi populous is.One time you hear that they don`t wan`t anything to do with Zambia ,the other day you hear the opposite.It is so confusing.
It doesn’t have my blessings.Zambia is the only country i know and like that it will remain.
Hmmm…look at the bigger picture-the Litunga understands that Zambia is Lozi just like Lozi is Zambia…in the same vein with each and every tribe in the land-your observation is militant tata…peace is the way forward-this the Litunga always knew…it was the democratic right of ‘those’ Lozis to shout break away until it became a disturbing nonsense…then the old man acted! Goodwill on the behalf of the establishment!
GOD BLESS THE LITUNGA. THIS MAN LOVES PEACE. BUT PEOPLE LIKE “SHINDA WAINYELAWILA” CAN BRING BLOOD SHED IN ZAMBIA. ONE ZAMBIA, ONE NATION.
Thanks for that insight Inambao,Dojo Do and Chisenga.Otherwise this has been one of the issues that has been raising my adrenalin.The last thing i want to see is the people i love engage in a war.God bless one Zambia one nation.
united we stand….. thanks bo litunga for the move. lets move as one zambia one nation.
A positive engagement for a married couple. Dialogue is best.
I will coment after checking other media outlests – hard to find real news pa zed
YOU HAVE ALREADY COMENTED.
Ba Bwalya I agree with you but dont go to Galuwatch
the chaps have sold their morals..useless…indunas..
I AM SURE “SHINDA WAINYELEWILA” IS GNASHING HIS TEETH. WITH COMPLETE BITTERNESS.
SO IT MEANS GIVING TIME TO ISSUES ACTUALLY HELPS. THE TRUTH ACTUALLY COMES OUT WITH TIME. THERE IS NO NEED TO RUSH THINGS. A BIT OF RELUCTANCE IS SOMETIMES NEEDED. BECAUSE YOU CAN END UP MAKING WRONG DECISIONS.
I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE NEED IN ZAMBIA. PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR A BETTER FUTURE. THERE IS NO NEED TO STICK HARD AND FAST TO POSITIONS THAT WILL NOT BENEFIT ANYONE. THIS IS AS IT SHOULD BE . NO LOSER IN THIS CASE. A FEW VOCAL, PEOPLE WITH POLITICAL MOTIVES WANTED TO CREATE A STORM IN A TEA CUP OR THEY WANTED TO MAKE A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLE-HILL. THEY WERE TEARING DRAFTS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND MAKING WILD STATEMENTS. ZAMBIA IS FOR ALL OF US. IF THE PF FAILS WE WILL CHOOSE OTHER LEADERS. BUT ZAMBIA WILL REMAIN.WHEN WE ALL DIE, ZAMBIA WILL REMAIN WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
WE KNOW THE ZWD WILL TRY TO TWIST THE STORY. BUT THAT IS THEIR CHARACTER, WE UNDERSTAND THE BITTERNESS.
This is the best way forward. It shows not only humility on the part of the BRE but also keenness to unite the country and this equally exposes Sinyinda and the activists that wanted to bring about confusion.
Your Royal Highness the LITUNGA, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU for the BRE participation inthe constitution making process. This is the way to go. ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION indeed!!!!!
Society of dynamism. Some want it here and now, other take time. Some misdirected, Others conform. The worse is doing things in a hurry and in the opposite direction, that creates an equally opposite force and when the spring snaps it would hit the camp which stands on weak ground. Fast and furious but going nowhere fast can be dangerous to oneself. Creating a situation and then start blaming other people as initiators of your own resultant problem is not good at all. Running away from reality has terrible consequences, indeed.
Well, its about time they did attend. We don’t want complaints at last unless someone messes with the final document.
Sinyinda, that fella could have caused trouble for our own brothers and sisters in Western Province! Sometimes, thinking can go wrong and resulting consequences usually terrible. For instance, Leaders of opposition Parties becoming bitter after their opponent wins. Thereafter incite citizens that this govt must no complete its mandate, what a wrong way! Just remain in opposition until the 5 year mandate, and avoid overdoing your opposition politics to the detriment of the current leadership. Everything has time and space. Wisdom will tell you that calm down, reflect on what happened, where did you go wrong and then seek remedies through strategies and tactics. Definately not by bitterness, belittling, insults, tribalism, unnecessary defiance. They can bring doom’s day on you, sadly.
An axtremely commendable approach from the Litunga for sending the BRE. It will go down it History of Zambia as thee King of peace and Unity.
I have always thought that His Royal Highness is a wise man so am not surprised. Am sure ZWD morons are cursing at this positive move by the BRE and they will definately try to put a spin on this and call the wise Indunas all manner of names for putting them to shame.
ACTUALLY THEY WILL LOOK FOR SOME INDUNAS WITH DESSENTING VIEWS TO COUNTERRACT THIS WISE MOVE. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ZAMBIANS HAVE NOW KNOWN THAT ZWD IS JUST A CLANDESTINE BLOGGING SITE FOR UPND.
foolish lozis
You must be ashamed of yourself. You have no evidence of what you are saying but one that speaks without evidence is clearly a fool. Fnck your father!
YOu are the one who is foolish
This whole barotse issue was orchestrated by just a few greedy individuals supported by the UPND and their watch dog on line publication. It has never had any blessings from rightful thinking Lozis.
Some measures were necessary to make some confused souls think properly. There will always be few characters that cause confusion, the ring leaders. Find them, ask them questions, get their views, try convince them and let them go.A good practice indeed. [Other terrible strategies would have been bad omen – abdactions, disappearances. killings and every bad word, it would not have been the better option, though reality has example elsewhere, thus not imagination of inciting]. Glad we can live happily as a family, as a united nation, and ready to talk development in all regions of our country.
cheap. 10 million old kwacha each. Total= 30million old kwacha. what price did Judas Ischariot accept? Same. What followed? Suicide. So be it. AMEN.
Thats de way to go.these cave men at that useless site kod watchgalu wont mention.nowonder any view different from those *****s is never posted only wat dat uncircumsed ichilema wants to hear so dat he continues living in utopia.
1rThis is no sense. In lozi we call this, mandwani. We respect the Litungaship, but we don’t follow betraywl,trencher and cheapness. It was the BRE structures, the district kutas that resolved to cut off from zambia, it was not ngambela wainyae. Just a few weeks ago, the same indunas went on air and sqie the Litunga is the one who organsed the bnc, and approved its recommendations. Maybe people must start thinking deeply of the man who occupies the litungaship. Is he geneiun? How much money has he exorted com government already? For how long will grz continue to fund the lavish style of the litunga while ignoring the miserable and poverty tricked status of their ownchiefs? This is a really painful gift to barotses, a day after we remember our brothers who were murdered by grz.
a ki mandwani. niti
You may not believe this, but the Litunga has categorically refused having ever sent these indunas to the convention. wait for results tomorrow. heads will role.
bembaz and there sweet talk if it was them trying to have this secession from mother zambia it was going to be this that .you shall know them by there barren thinking.
What have bembaz got to with this situation don’t xpress ignorance especially in public you end up sounding stupid or maybe you are, infact I think you are very stupid ,which Bemba z are you referring to anyway? You are mis redirecting you guns for you own information Zambia has never had a Bemba for a president at least not yet,Kaunda is not Bemba,Chiluba was not Bemba neither is sata maybe mwanawasa…….silly chap.
sometimes one wonders what the kingdom really wants
Most people wrongly believe that His Excellence is abrasive, ruthless etc but the way he’s handled this Barotse issue since he became President has proofed everyone wrong.
Just an observation- the Zambian flag in the background is inverted.
Just an observation but the Zambian flag in the background is inverted.
Lozi’s keep looking foolish. So wat is it that they have archived in their out cry for BRE so far?
I saw the disgraced corruption supporter lawyer Rodger Chongwe in the paper. He has lost all his handsome look! He looks ugly like the great satanist, the greedy illiterate autocratic Dictator PF Tribalist President Michael Sata.
I miss the brave Ghanian army officer Lieutenant General Emmanuel Kwasi Kotoka who in February 1966 announced the overthrow of Nkrumah to stop Nkrumah’s autocratic communism rule and dictatorship.
Lieutenant General Emmanuel Kwasi Kotoka is a hero in Ghana like Mwamba Luchembe in Zambia. He stopped dictatorship from showing its ugly face.
What’s your point? I wish our Secret service could identify you (which is impossible by the way) so that they could have a word with you next time you come to visit your mum.
meant (which is not impossible by the way)
#15 msana wanzili,
And Sata ordered the Zambia Army to shoot the Lozi activities.
And you say, “handled this Barotse issue since he became President has proofed everyone wrong?”
Who did Sata prove wrong when the Police can arrest anyone even in the court of law when justice is dispensed? Opposition leaders are arrested just for exercising their freedom of movement? Corrupt opposition leaders are being intimidated and blackmailed into joining PF just because they have cases to answer instead of arresting them?
Sata has only proved himself that what people like Chanda Chimba III and Chimumbwa, were right of what they said against Sata and his leadership style.
He just spares only Roman CATHOLIC Priest and their members, to the Priests, Sata proved them wrong!
SHAKA OZ
You forgot to tell us how many H.E Mr Sata has shot so far and how many his predecessor killed under lesser provocation.
Shaka, it is not wrong to have dissenting views on any subject but your open hatred towards anything to do with the catholic church is shocking. Please note that people have very divergent views on religious, polictical, social and economic matters and whether you like it or not, not everyone, including your wife and chldren will always agree with your opinion or beliefs.
How I wish HH & Nevers Mumba can also comment on this positive move. Sometimes its good to look at positives as well rather than dwelling on negatives all the time. Bo Litunga, thts the way to go
Brief statement by of BAROTSE YOUTHS
Barotseyouths are saddened, dissapointed and feel betrayed by the decion of the Litunga to send BRE indunas to kneel at the foot of zambia colonialist at the on going mongu grz constition convertion.Bre’s decision is autocratic, dicatarial, and has no blessings or approval of the people of barotseland because it was done by one man, and was not even tabled at any kuta in barotseland.More, no barotse activist was consulted to give input, and such, it is a null and void issue that we call on all barotse youths to condemn and reject it.BRE must grow up and show leadership to the vast barotses waiting for it to do the right thing.At the moment, BRE seem to be a group of failures and sickly people who have lost touch with reality. We are going to…
thanx very much for the good message bo litunga let’s build zambia together .don’t listen to upnd chaps they want to confuse you.
#26.1 msana wanzili,
During our time in Zambia, our gallant Secret Service in Zambia was called Special Branch (SHUSHUSHU) during the former Zambian autocratic Dictator & murderer Kenneth Kaunda. They were very ruthless & brutal to the point that Zambians were afraid even to whisper in their homes even talking to their wives/husbands and children about the all powerful KK & his family. The Special Branch operatives were trained in Romania & Soviet Union
In Romania, that is were the late dictator (like Sata & KK), thought he was the all powerful untouchable personality cult but luck he was brought down by a popular revolt and was executed by the military firing squad, the same military who were saluting & worshiped him.
Sata is trying to bring back the hated Special Branch brutal…
This is just another unsubstanciated report by the media.
The Litunga can not reverse the BNC resolutions alone, the Kutas must be present as well as the people of Barotseland. These attifice articles have long been circulating “Hear Says” about what the Litunga might have had said.
Barotseland can never be sold by countable fingers of few crooked individuals. Barotseland is bigger than 2 Indunas. As far as the BNC’s resolve is concerned, the rulings are final.
It is well known culture fact of the Lozi traditions that, the final words of the Litunga are announced by the Ngambela with the blessings of the Kuta.
It is also important to realise that, the Litunga has not made any comments regarding the null and void agreement of 64. All is just the speculations of the media who are…
Why is the Flag of Zambia on (Litunga’s pic)the front page upside down?lol
Lozis, lozis, lozis
Don’t rush to celebrating yet. This was published by the The Times of Zambia, a propaganda mouthpiece of the Zambian government. Times has in the past published fake propaganda stories that have been debunked. So swallow this with a grain of salt.
Obviously you really don’ understand the way the Kingdom functions and operates. First the Barotseland supreme decision body is the Barotse National Council (BNC) and not the BRE. The resolution to break away from the political marriage with Zambia was made by the BNC and only they can overturn it.
Even if it was true the BRE Indunas went there – which is either propaganda or the Indunas are just masquerading to represent the BRE when they could just be representing themselves as members of the BRE (big difference) – they are merely representing their organisation, BRE (which they are free to do) but not BNC or Barotseland as a hole.
PF has tried every trick from their playbook to discredit the BNc resolutions – from intimidation, propaganda, divide-and-conquer (with the Nkoya Lozis), to bribing and all sorts of trickery. But like I keep saying you can’t kill an idea founded on truth. There are rumours the Litunga has been bribed, but again even if this was true, this is a futile act because the power doesn’t lie with the Litunga at all.
He is merely a symbolic custodian of the land and the ‘real’ power lies with the people (who are represented by the BNC).
So before you jump all over praising the BRE and the man you were insulting not very long ago, first understand the decision making hierarchy of the Kingdom – this governance strusture has always been there for centuries, long before your people exited from their caves. By the way the double-standard from your kind if shocking – you seem to only praise the Litunga when you think he is doing something you like and what you agree with. That’s not what a man of integrity behaves – check your conscience on this one, if you have any at all!
Jigga
Inconvenient as it may be to you of course, the truth is that without the Litunga’s support, without his blessing you and other criminals will be playing in governments hands and risking having your freedoms withdrawn. Any further illegal- activism will be treasonable and you’ll be dealt with severely.
@ msana wanzili – glad that you seem to appreciate that the Litunga commands, projects and exerts power on the Zambian government. But you don’t seem to realise where the Litunga gets that power from… its frorm the people! From a foreigner’s point of view Barotseland = Litunga and Litunga = Barotseland. Yes that’s how the Kingdom has operated for many years long even before the colonialists landed. And Lozis intend to keep it that way. The Litungaship is sacred!
But inside (and I shouldn’t be disclosing these ‘secrets’), it’s the people who govern through their Indunas (BNC). Barotseland is not like Zambia where power rests only in one man, aka the President. You might want to know that when Lewanika was dethrowned by the Kololos, it was the people who reinstalled him on…
You may be right but who do you think the government would respect and listen to between the Litunga and a bunch of nobodies making noise behind their computers or in shabins? Yeah! you guessed right it would be the Litunga, forget about the rubbish of power resting with people blah blah blah because nobody is interested in knowing that.
The way to go. Zambia first.
Ba LT boza,who misinformed you about this data
Lusaka Times your lies about the Litunga are now deeper than the ocean.
Stop rushing to print “hear says”, stop accusing the Litunga because you are puting his Majesty’s name in ridicule.
Try to open your shut ears wide open, unjustified stories are just as unsubstanciated anonymous sqells. The last kicks of a dying horse, its a pity.
The BNC is the highest supreme organ in Barotseland, the BRE with the Litunga Kingship are the custodians of Barotseland and its people.
No amount of propanganda will ever change the 27th March 12, BNC resolutions, not even the KR 42 can deter the coarse of self determination.
There is nothing treasonable about liberty and freedom of having universal human rights.
This impase will be dealt head on with brains and the fight is without weapons…
Rubbish rants..shame on you..shaaa.
I always knew this was a desperate propaganda!