Nurses feel cheated by Government over salary hike-ZUNO

1. Welcome to kaponya party,failures after failures.is mcs back home or he is still in London.

2. PF is performing so badly in their era that even if the facts above are not accurate, one would believe its true. Zambians, we are too trusting, shouldn’t have believed this visionless government.

   • You see i warned you ba PF, Pharmacists started Threatening to go on strike now see where u headed to the warning last week by Pharmacists was clear/ now if u dont check it this will spread to all other health workers, mr sata plz read cap 297 Medical and allied profession act.

   • There is no need to panick

     The president will sort the mess

     The nurses should not worry. The country and the pf have the best interest of the nations
     Now go back to work.

     Thanks

   • That’s about the best comment i have ever head from Mushota, ever…

   • Well said Mushota ! Good girl !

   • Nurse’s Salaries should come from the respective hospitals, not government.

3. Its For real PF for you.upto now they ar still lien to people.ba pf this is not time to continue lien its time for you to correct your mistakes.2 wrongs will Neva make a right.he who begins his rule and reign with lies will always end with lies and lies shall follow him all the days of his life.put an end to this nonsense of lies this is a crucial time for you its called mend or break otherwise constructing roads alone wont give you a second term.be wise

4. ZUNO is speaking on behalf of all the paramedics who have been affected by this irregularity. They include cadres like clinical officers,EHTs,lab techs,radiographers,physiotherapists etc collectly making the system able to function. Remember Doctors are either doing administrative duties or planning go back to school as the training at Ridway does not adequately equip them such that the ML( a retrained clinical) is far much better.

   • you can say: …is far better.
     or say: …is much better.

     when u say: …is far much better.
     u r repeating yourself. in short, u r saying: …is far far better or is much much better.
     that’s wrong vocabulary.

     thought to use my minute to correct something. hope you take it without offence. thank you.

   • Are you a teacher

   • good point so called doctors does nothing but administrative far frm clinical work only medical licentiate ar doing operations most of these doctors doesn’t even knw to preform a C. section

   • You cant compare a Clinical officer with doctor you fool.How long does it take to train a CO and how long does it take to train a doctor. A ML is a CO period

5. ” The increment is broken down into 4% increment on basic salary, 2% increment added to the existing 5% basic salary as commuted night duty allowance and 15 % of one’s basic salary as the newly introduced health personnel shift differential allowance. ”

   Awe sure ba PF, this is the most complicated Salary increment I have ever seen in my life, but they told us it will be 21% increment but our payslip show 4%, how does it work imwe aba fi ma economics, teach us please. I feel very cheated, some of us will never even see or understand that personnel shift differential..what animal is that? will it happen every month?

   • Shift differential is an allowance you get for working in un social hours, I.e afternoon and night shifts. Normally an employee is supposed to work between 7am to 5pm (morning shift). In conclusion as long as you do afternoon and night shift you will be paid personell shift differential allowance

6. iwe ZUNO president mambala, how much do you pay your maid and garden boy?

7. We deal with human beings and we went to school for 2yrs others more than 3yrs and surprising enough only to get salaries equal to that of cleaners.We know you(PF) have employed relatives who are not educated i.e. cleaners,security officers etc & u raised their salaries as one way of paying them back.The government (PF) has under looked us when they promised to improve our salaries by 21% but gave us amafi 4% with expensive life caused by them (PF Goverment) by removing subside on essential commodities.WE NOT HAPPY COME 2016.WE WILL USE WISDOM WHICH WE GOT FROM SCHOOL

   • All medical personnel had been receiving salary increments at the expense of other civil servants who among them are even more educated than the 2 – 3 years the medical workers do. NOT long ago (2012), the medical practitioners were awarded 100% salary increment while the rest were in the range of 10-15 percent. Zambia is for all! The PF government has just harmonized the salary disparities among civil servants. Why should Nurses get more monies than other civil servants with similar or higher qualification? What you get is current (already) enough compared to the work you do.

8. Where is the president to address the nurse? MIA!

   • Nurses! Still at the UN hanging out in Brooklyn or Queens ka

   • I am really spooked about these heailthy workers, do they consider themselves to be the heighest acadimically exposed people in this country? Surely how do you bring in some other workers into your complaining for salaries? your 2yrs or 3yrs paper is nothing compared to bunches of qualifications which some civil servants like security have

9. Civil servants must learn to appreciate. What about workers in the private sector what increment have they gotten. Is it only these so called civil servants who voted for PF into Government?

   • the issue is nurses getting same with CDEs.

   • Read the content of the story before you yap!

10. But this government is useless! They are acting like Joseph( couple # 7) R4M, why continue cheating! Nurses let’s do what we know best! Ine nikazicita competition na cleaner sure! PF you have undermined education sooo much! Now I know what they mean when they say we are led by uneducated leaders! I went to school to have a better life! Then you picked someone from the street who today we share the same amount of pay! Shame on you Joseph kasonde! This is disheartening! Look thru your priorities very well! Most nurses that graduated last year are also still malingering in the streets no jobs, people are dying in the hospitals due to very few care givers yet you Kasonde and your friends saying there are no vacancies! Are we in the same Zambia! I wish all of you in government never used to…

11. Lt Why haven’t you completely posted my post?

12. i think doctor manda can make a good minister.

13. Your ZUNO president is a draw back. The point is he agreed a 4% increase not the 21% we economists are hearing. So far there is no economical calculation that can eat your whole 17% to come to 4%.Or maybe he negotiated for a bit by bit increase. Or he is a coward a government yes bwana like leonard Hikaumba.

    • Do ZUNO represent nurses & midwives or the CDEs?
      How can a professional cadre who spent 12 years in school, 2/3/4 years in a college be given such a so-called salary increment which far less better than a CDE honestly? Is the ZUNO president a normal persons with five senses intact who proudly raised ZUNO contribution by 5% to enrich himself? Nurses reasons for striking is for better & reasonable salary increment.

14. That’s how we MEN also feel cheated by the same nurses bitching around on several men without getting married, modelling mu tuma white uniforms.

15. That’s how we MEN also feel cheated by the same nurses whoring around on several men without getting married, modelling mu tuma white uniforms.

16. Some of us in the international NGOs received increment of between K74.00 and K240.00 i.e. qualifications being between Certificate and Degree. Diploma holders are now getting home between K2,400.00 and K2,600.00 and Degree holders K2,800.00 to K3,430.00.
    We have no union, cannot go on strike, cannot protest and are not even told the basis of our increments. We work under threats throughout. Our bosses are getting more than K10,000.00.
    PLEASE bloggers helps or advise us how we can get help without being fired, we know jobs are hard to come by.

    • Make your own NGO and employ others – its that simple!

17. Nurses have become a nuisance in Zambia – always causing unnecessary problems for everyone! They got hefty salary increases last year when teachers got nothing and didnt cry baby! So what do they just want to strike for this time? Stupid *****s! Fust fu.ck them hard and they will stop this stupidity!

    • Don’t use such a dirty langage. You are brains for nothing.

    • an *****, even wen u wer born its a nurse u ko nuisance who so u first and took care of u unless u were bon in the village

    • Chilyata, waza na ndumbi yove! what nurses are complainig for is getting the same pay with their cleaners period. Dont compare teachers to Nurses, after all even un trained teachers who are grade 12s can do better than you teacher chilyata.

    • Tembo Bwalya et al what a waste of sp.erm you are! It appears nurses like you dont even have commom sense. Dont you know that even the Grade 12 UTs you are denigrating also needed teachers to get to Grade 12.
      Who really needs stu.pid rude nurses when Alangizi can deliver children better than the so called tuma Zed Nurses? Why should we be paying you so much better than teachers when your job is just washing patients, etc! Come down to mother earth or elso go to hell!

    • You sound bitter,foolish with a cadre language,i suspect you have a mental problem,so get yourself a voluntary admission at a psychiatry hospital.

18. As far as teachers are concerned,the increments were fine.Well done PF govt.Why should workers with similar qualifications but in different ministries get different salaries?a certificate,diploma,degree is the same whether in education or agriculture.

    • Not the same. When schools close teachers also go on recess. Nurses work very long hours in very stressful conditions

19. Nurses are becoming very stupid indeed. Pf govt wants to reduce the huge gap between workers and u want an office-orderly to get your uniform upkeep allowance as basic pay? *****s!

20. Cleaners Baleisa Baleisa Ba Nurse na COUNTRY WIDE STRIKE.Give medicine,scan,Xray patients do RMPs,dental work and give physical treatments to patients becoz we are the same.You(Cleaners) even say studying & going to school is ours & money its yours.You will see(Mulemwenako)

    It’s good that we are going on strike indeed,because patients were going to suffer the consequences of our frustration…..our work input would definitely be very poor. Anyway,that is the choice Zambia made in 2011.COME 2016 SATA OUT!!!!!!!

21. Dont kubeba

22. iwe yungana zuno president are you ok or sick? If you are not capable of being the president please resign. Wat we re saying is that a CDE can not get the difference of 200 to 400 with a nurse and mind you some of us got k6 basic salary increment. If the government thinks it wil clarify our increment by toping up k90 it must be joking. Just a reminder mr zuno president be careful wenever you address us otherwise you ll burnt alive(surely why should you alarm the nation by saying more money) dont you know that the landlords have already increased rentals. Be wise my Friend be wise!

    • PF does not understand the value of going to school and doing things in an orderly fashion! I wonder why they don’t consult before doing what they do.

      How can a CDE get almost the same pay as someone as educated as a nurse? This is unfair! The nurses are justified to seek some major adjustment in their pay to restore the distance between the CDE and themselves. What PF has done is reducing the status of nurses to the level of CDEs.

      The best way to put more money in people’s pockets is by reducing taxes and lowering the cost of living and the cost of doing business! This was the approach we were made to understand from the original PF manifesto! This year’s budget deficit will be the worst in the history of this country!

23. Yaa! Mu Zambia.

24. Nurses please go on strike we need better services not being treated like kids we tolerated them from April and only to get some peanuts. Cleaners are getting more than they deserve. Its like school no longer matters.

    • ozioso u are right

25. An increment is an increment be it 1% or 0.5% Muletasha here in the mines we receive every increment why should one complain as though its the end of the world.Even next year another one will come.

    • kopala u are useless u are compering mine na goverment chimbamabwe we are tolking of educated pipo not chimbamabwe

26. Saddening,and to think the delay to implement and awarding salary increments was to avoid such occurrences,shame!!!doesn’t Government have qualified and experienced programmers to prevent such unnecessary confusions or maybe it was a deliberate move to deprive the civil servants and to see if they would embrace a slice from their new salaries?Lets be serious PF.

27. Meteorological Dept salaries are the worst. One scale exists for staff with different qualifications. Please don something as soon as possible before we explode.

28. @Ba Duuli ikalenifyeee….You think every one who is in the mines is a chimbamabwe you are a very dull chap ai?

29. It surprises me that still in this country people can’t do basic arithmetic. Where did people get the 21% from? I have not done any calculations as the information available is inadequate as the “actuals” of the ingredients, which are not given here, are the weights. If the percentages given are what the union agreed to, then they are responsible for misinforming their members. Since the increments are fragmented, the overall increase should be the weighed average increase which will surely fall far below the the highest awarded increase of 15% even though the 15% increase on basic salary is the biggest weight.

    The Ministry of Finance Accountants should have rebutted the pronouncements even before the increments were effected as this will now only bring about friction in the country.

30. @ psychiatrist 3 – Ridgeway campus is brutal my friend and Zambian doctors are among the best in the world because their education system especially then is based on merit and not pocket power. Dont walk in water whose depth you dont know. If you failed going to ridgeway, blame your genes and curse your upbringing.

31. Kwena ba so called Phd student ba Mushota cannot spell panic but instead ati panick! Sounds so illiterate to me.

32. You Civil Servants have to be thankful to the PF Government you are getting salary increments every year which never used to be the case in the previous regimes

33. I commend the gvt of the day it realy has done what other Gvts failed to do. Like removing the distance between the rich and the poor. Powering the nation, Giving the nation short and long term vision; seeing the reality of implementing programs.

    Now its your lazyness, greediness and your ungratefulness that is tarnishing the good of the well performed Gvt.
    Analyse yes! realize yes! If we the Zambians where given Just one day to taste what is going on in Egypt, Lybia, Somali, Syria name it… then you will realise what they re missing
    Be grateful
    The approach now should be pushing Gvt to Lower taxes, reduce the cost of doing business not STRIKING ON A COMPUTER ERROR (payrol whatever)

34. your cognitive functionns are either dysfuctional or you are a 3rd yr student of medicine. Come and see what happens in practice. Some Ridgeway doctors can hardly perform the simpliest of surgical procedures. Medicine is a skill and you have to learn & perfect it. It is not about being pompus. MLs are really making a diff erence now believe it or not

35. @ Pondo 30 your cognitive functionns are either dysfuctional or you are a 3rd yr student of medicine. Come and see what happens in practice. Some Ridgeway doctors can hardly perform the simpliest of surgical procedures. Medicine is a skill and you have to learn & perfect it. It is not about being pompus. MLs are really making a diff erence now believe it or not

36. Third generation lie from pf in alliance with tom muyungana.

37. where is Dr kalongo kamenshi bunda bwamukuku, to open herbal hospitals country wide so that these nurses will no longer overate themselves, they think they are more equal than others! Atase!!!

38. Zambia needs to move away from this kind of thinking! Salary increase should be performance based with an annual component to adjust for inflation. When the labour costs go up, we become less competitive as a country in attracting FDI.

    I have had to stop employing Zambians because they have become too expensive for me to afford and most of them are lazy and corrupt anyway.

    Most of these nurses have a very bad attitude to patients and in my view, they don’t deserve any increment. Government needs to seriously come up with a mechanism of weeding out the bad eggs from the civil service and only reward high performers! It is unfair to reward hard workers and lazy bones at the same rate. It ends up encouraging laziness and the hard workers get discouraged!

39. so sad that civil servant cn start insulting each other like this, this is not time to see who is a teacher and who is a nurse,if you chose to be a nurse be a nurse,if you are a teacher be a teacher no nurse has said teachers are geting more than us,inthink they are simply saying non profesional are getng almost like them,education is expensive these days evn the one you are saying a certificate,if nurses are not good enough let them stop work and the CDEs wil attend to you when you come to the hospital,if the government so wishes can fair them evn tonight,so don’t insult them

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