Zambia has resolved to maintain its membership with the International Criminal Court (ICC). Minister of Justice Given Lubinda has said that over 91 percent of the 3,489 submissions made in the 30 districts across the country were against the pull out.
Mr. Lubinda has told Parliament that the public consultation which commenced on March 27th and concluded on April 20th involved written and oral submissions by Civil Society Organizations and private individuals among other stakeholders.
The Minister said stakeholders in their submissions noted that Zambia needs to make its own decision as a sovereign state and not be forced by other countries.
He said government will inform the African Union Heads of State Summit on its outcome when the matter comes up at the Summit slated for next month in Addis Ababa Ethiopia.
Mr. Lubinda said the consultative process came after President Edgar Lungu refused to commit Zambia to the withdrawal after the 28th AU summit in January this year resolved a non-binding recommendation to pull out of the ICC citing its impartiality.
He has assured Zambians that government will continue consulting the masses before making key decisions.
Mr. Lubinda has thanked Zambians for their commitment to national matters.
He said the decision is a clarion call to those anticipating to commit crimes that may not be reached by the local laws that the ICC would reach them.
The interesting question to ponder by UPND cadres is this
How come the Corrupt , Evil ,Illegitimate, ICC bound Dictatorship Government of Edgar Lazy Chakolwa Lungu fail to rig this process and so maintain Zambia in the ICC, which as perceived by you UPND cadres is against the wishes of the evil PF Government.
So what gives????
Can PF justify the expenditure on this so called consultation?
This Government has a way of wasting money!
The debate will now move to expenditure rather than PF did the right and honest thing and should be trusted. No doubt, in your UPND cadres’ mind PF would do anything to get Zambia out of ICC.
If they stole votes from your Almighty goD called under 5 HH, what is so difficult about rigging this process and getting Zambia out of ICC? This should be child play to people that stole the votes from your Almighty goD
This is the question you UPND cadres need to ponder and not sidetracking the issue with expenditure. Expenditure is part of Governance and it was budgeted for
Kekekekekeke, so they plan was to inform AU something else?
this PF lost clearly , 91%, like during referrundum last year.
@ MMD Bootlicker because this was not a “secret” Ballot instead it was consultative and it was so easy to follow the sittings if you watch Muvi TV since it covered all sittings you would know the outcome even before the announcement ….for the few of us that followed. So your assertions of rigging cannot hold otherwise Lubinda would have been saying numbers like 95,753 voted no to pull out and 900 yes. Instead there was no voting so this Rigging wasn’t possible Sir even for a Tin pot Dictator. Your Comparison is like saying eiish the Dr. Diagnosed me with HIV infection but I had a flu and got healed therefore he is lying that I am infected with HIV 🙁 ???
No one is side tracking anything chief mmm fimo fimo the issue is did we really did the expenditure on holding consultations when written submissionscwoul do on an issue that no one was suggesting to do?
Now my experience with people who claim to be clever than others are in fact the opposite.
Case in point PF has failed the people of Zambia.
You are still leaking a rotten carcass mmd!
ICC should read Lusaka Times and they will be aware of the decision!
Why waste time with this wasteful idi.ot Bo Lubinda!!
Democracy is expensive . PF did the right thing by consulting
“He has assured Zambians that government will continue consulting the masses before making key decisions.”
Can you do the same whether the petition on the last elections can be heard? I think that will solve Political problems we are experiencing.
Take that petition back to concourt if you want it be heard. As far as we are concerned the petition you are referring to was thrown out by the court for luck of merit. There’s no petition currently in the zambian courts anywhere. It is stupid for you to demand the hearing of the petition which is not before any court. I don’t know how times we are going to be educating these under5 on this issue plus the handover issue to the speaker blablabla. Once Un under5 is always in under5 zoona.
DO YOU MEAN CONSULTING PEOPLE WHETHER WE SHOULD BREACH THE CONSTITUTION JUST BECAUSE HH WANTS US TO DO SO?
Ba MMD Chief Bootlicker muli Chisushi. Can u compare this inquiry to presidential election?
As usual, there goes a shallow undeveloped brain that does what it knows best, when challenged to reason, when challenged to question even the basics, your under developed brain resorts to basal animal instincts of survival ..just insult. The land of thinkers hidden from you and you can’t even dream about it. it is a bridge too far for your likes. Really pity you my friend. You need to develop beyond your grade 5 level..sorry that is an insult to grade 5s, I mean beyond your under 5 level
By the way, my friend , the good news is that Neuroplasticity is real and you can do something about your condition. It is never late
As usual the UPND way, nothing to say, resort to insults!
MMD Chief Bootlicker – Even Under Fives need respect.
What is the difference between 5 and 5.1? They both sound the same in terms of language though one claims to be more reasonable than the other.
See how quick this self claimed brain box is quick to answer to your ill intentioned insult as compared to discusding the fact that his comparison lacks merit as these were two completely different processes, namely consultation and casting of votes. It is surprising how supposedly intelligent people like MMD bootlicker become subjective rather than objective. You have a lot to give to Zambia in rerms of advice, please take off your blinkers Mr MMD bootlicker.
Why should anyone abide by the decisions of the toothless AU? The AU should first re-organize its secretariat before trying to mobilize its member states. Can anyone tell me any achievements that the AU has ever made?
UPND do not know any democracy, to them what ever their Supreme Leader HH says then that’s true… They’re the worst dictators who do not accommodate divergent views apart from their myopic know it all syndrome…
I’m sure this article will undoubtedly offend some UPND cadres somehow. Most things seem to.
Lungu did well to hold a mock consultation with citizens to fool Al Bashir and Mugabe without which he risked his butt being kicked by the two Strongmen at their next meet.
As things turned out, Edgar will simply tell the duo something like,
“Guys, it’s the Zambians who decided, not me.”
Of course, he’ll return home with watery eyes and a running nose because of too much chilli peri-peri having been sprinkled into his relish by sly uncle Bob.
Again UPND have been shamed. “The evil dictator regime of PF wants to pull out of ICC”
Lungu did well to hold a mock consultation with citizens to dupe Al Bashir and Mugabe, without which he risked his butt being kicked hard by the two Strongmen at their next meet.
As things turned out, Edgar will simply tell the duo something like,
“Guys, it’s the Zambians who decided, not me.”
Of course, he’ll return home with watery eyes and a running nose because of too much chilli peri-peri having been sprinkled into his relish by sly uncle Bob.
We thank you too, honorable Lubinda for letting us Zambians decide for ourselves. You are a government of the people!!
Zambian citizen
You can away from another thread where you said lungu was comfortable before he became presido , and I asked you why he stole a client’s money if that was the case ???
There are two sides of the coin on issues relating to Zambia’s membership of the ICC.
(a) UPND feared that the PF Govt would emulate other African States to pull out Zambia from the ICC so as to facilitate a case in which a Law Firm had reported HH to the ICC for the atrocities UPND committed in Southern Province.
(b) UPND actually campaigned to maintain Zambia’s membership of ICC, laced with a prayer to send ECL to the Haque for unknown human rights offences.
Therefore, the outcome of Govt countrywide consultations resulting in Zambia’s retention of its membership to ICC, could have delighted UPND and prompted them to remain silent. But as usual, UPND’s intelligence is extremely WARPED.
So you admit that 91% of the voting population is UPND ?
This was a slap in the face for lungu who hoped his nationalistic rantings about colonialist plots who provoke the kaponyas.
He also hoped to show he is not a dictator.
This is a Listening gov’t. They heard the people and granted their wishes. PF is the best Party to carry Zambia over the coals of a shaky economy.
Pf is the waste government things ate going worse
Given Lubinda should please explain why the Lands Tribunal isn’t sitting. He is afterall a Zambian minister and not of the AU. Justice delayed is Justice denied
@ADB: HAVE YOU BOTHERED TO ASK THE MINISTER FOR AN OFFICIAL POSITION, INSTEAD OF SCREAMING HERE?
SAD VERY SAD INDEED TO BE A ZAMBIAN .SOCIETY WE LIVE IN TODAY IS FULL OF PEOPLE WITH MALICE ,BLIND FOLDED TAKEN LIKE SHEEP FOR SLAUGHTER. WAKE UP PEOPLE PLEASE .AM SMELLING A RAT HERE .TOO MUCH PRETENCE AS THOUGH ALL IS WELL WHEN IN FACT NOT. GO IN THE COMMUNITY AND SEE THE AGONY AND GLOOMY FACES OF THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE.
MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LUCKY OF KNOWLEDGE. WHERE THERE IS INFORMATION THERE WILL BE TRANSFORMATION .PEOPLE ESP THE SO CALLED CADERS BEHAVE IN A CERTAIN MANNER CAUSE OF THE INFORMATION THEY RECEIVE FROM THEIR HEADS OF DEPT.HAVE EVER BEEN TOLD TO DO WRONG BY THE BIG POCKET IN EXCHANGE FOR A FIFTY KWACHA ???? WILL YOU KILL YOUR FELLOW MAN FOR THE SAKE OF FAME,POSITION INFLUENCE IN SOCIETY .???
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE PURPOTED TO HAVING BEEN LOST AT THE HIGH COURT .I MEAN MUNALI CONSTITUENCY SAGA WERE THERE IS PETITION .SHOULD CASE RECORDS AT THE HIGHEST COURTS BE MISSING IN AN UNEXPLAINED CIRCUMSTANCE ?????WHERE ARE THE OFFICERS INTRASTED TO KEEP THOSE COURT RECORDS SAFE ???CAN SOME ONE PLEASE ANSWER ME BY MONDAY.
Someone tell when you last heard anything consistent or sensible from a Donkey of any variety, especially UPNDonkey.
…. Someone tell me when you last heard anything consistent or sensible from a Donkey of any variety, especially UPNDonkey.
Someone tell me when you did not last hear a PF kaponya rant about how it is ok for lungu to become a millionaire or when a kaponya seems silent on PF corruption…..