Debating with HH would demean the President’s status-Shikapwasha

1. Does it mean Sata is the leader of the Pact? If that is the case,then he Sata and not HH should debate with RB so that he can avail his 90 days economic miracle policies to Zambians so that we start scrutinising. He might as well get my vote if its feasible but I wont buy it just from talk.

2. Shikapwasha what is your so called president and v. president afraid of debats and phone in programmes. It just shows how empty their brains are, the’ve got nothing to offer apart from lies.

3. If presidential candiadates in developed world like the USA debate, what is so special with Rupiah and George. Why is it that Mr Shikapwasha is always negative when hes talking about the opposition. Please talk developmental issues not petty politics. The MMD is lucky because of poverty that they manipulate the people with mellie meal, T shirts , chitenges and Ma 100Pin. One day you guys will pay for this………………………..

4. Even if it’s a case of being a cadre without education but ignorance and insults, basic knowledge of campaign norms and executive office protocol should be exhibited. In a non nationally declared election by statutory instrument in the law, a head of state cannot break protocol to spar with a low grade regional party cadre the equivalence of provincial party chairmen of major party. Even seeking an appointment, calls for strict observance of protocol in clearance.

5. If HH is desperate for an elevating platform of national stature, all he needs do is:

   (1)- Show graduation from being an insulting kaponya 24/7 that he has become,

   (2)-Demonstrate a strong party representation from 19 MPs shell party UPND is today to atleast half the number of MMD in the house and become a national leader with a repaired posture.

6. There can now be no doubt that Kanitundila is on political death row whence the reluctance by his goons to expose his situation any further because they do realise nothing is more damaging to a government than a president and his deputy who are no longer loathed but who become, instead, utter jokes. Hearing of Banda and Kunda’s recent outbursts clearly point to minds dominated by “masalamusi”, they are jokers in a circus and all Zambians can clearly see this now. It comes as no suprise Banda is always on the move for fear of being discovered he is intellectually “naked” and a public tangle with Sata or HH would be suicidal, that at least even the likes of dull chaps like Shikapwasha realise.

7. Otherwise, it would be like asking the head of state to spar titular third parties’s leaders like:

   Ron Paul,Chuck, Ralph Nader, Bob Barr, and the Green Party’s presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney, in a non election season.There is a reason why declared national elections break protocol within a sanctioned period allowing the head of state to be exposed to such low level discourse with party zealots.

8. To the best of my knowledge, Zed is in no statutory declared national election season unless I’m educated here that there is another head of state who has invoked that executive power without our idea. There is a reason why Bush or Obama cannot break protocol and engage in public debate with every self declared politician any time after the 2 year election campaign season unless under statutory signed national elections.

9. HH does not know all these principals though his God father and husband Sata knows them but is wittingly letting the poor overzealous boy embarrass himself so that he could be overexposed as not a knowledgeable and mature leader.

10. Debates are good but at the moment HH is like anyother cader as such he can not be debating with the head of state but can take part by phoning in or writting in should the debate materialize but i am sure even sata wont be up for the idea as the man is not really that kind of person

11. Ronnie, Like #3b has said what makes Rupiah and George better than any Zambian? If you Ronnie think that too inferior to even untie the shoe laces on these 2 gentlemen that is your business. For any Zambian can be president if they so wish. Its not your business. If you want to continue wiping other people’s AR****S that is your choice. As a Reverend you should follow what our good Lord said in Luke 9:48-“For the one who is least among you all is the GREATEST.” Today Rupiah may be flying in choppers at will, but tommorow he may not have enough fare money to take him to Kabwata from Matero. And you Shikapwasha will not even want to be connected with him Mark 14:66ff. I can confidently say these cause of the way you have abandoned Levy’s crusade against crime just to gain RB’s 30…

12. The lack of logic in postings by MMD cadres is frightening. It is this lack of ability to realise the chips are down and the outfit called MMD wielding power today in the corridors of state is wholly bankrupt of any ideas on how to drive Zambia out of the economic and political doldrums we find ourselves in today that pose a grave danger to this country’s well being. To claim Banda knows what he is doing is being dull in the most extreme. After seeing Kunda, one does not need to be told this man’s health is ailing and like Tetamashimba he has no future so should not talk about one he is most probably not going to live to see.

13. Elyo iwe Veteran should not jump ship when MMD loses 2011. We know you. Stick with Rupiah even when he shifts to Kuku compound.

14. Veteran, Zambia has a parliamentary democracy and in case you have not noticed, we have by election all the time unlike the US where in most States the Governor can appoint a replacement for a dead or resigned representative. AS A RESULT, EVERY TIME IS ELECTION TIME IN ZAMBIA. Since you are posting from the US, one would have thought you would know this basic factual difference. It again shows the dullness that characterises the cadre minds that float with Kansundila. Anyway, it also says a lot about followers of a character whose head was drenched in monkey pee, DEMENTED!

15. I don`t know why people are getting themselves worked up here. Look this story was in the Times of Zambia. Simples!

16. CIA and veteran,why are you so jittery about Round Belly facing the youngman.An old wise nigerian goes:” a youngman who rise to a high point of success is a target of jealousy among his peers or agemates or even old ones who think they could have been better had they been in his position”.jelousy will take you nowhere.HH is a leader of zambia`s second largest opposition and has the right to ask for an open forum to have rupia held accountable.If anything,that would give RB an opprtunity to publicly outpoint his critics that he has a vision..if he has any. it does help justifying yourself from a political antihill…let RB come down and prove that he is better than SATA OR HH.

17. for shikashiwa,i pray that GOD expells this shameless reverand from his kingdom.he lies and talks rubish in the morning,at lunch,in the evening and iam sure even in his sleep now.talk about the saga over the construction of Shangombo district hospital,the scam over the bottom road, children learning in roofless classes in Imusho,old women eating roots in sulwegonde tec.Iam sure you have never been to these places some of you.I visited these places just last week and i expect government to talk obout these issues and not the nosensical mouth piece.Vetran and CIA, i think you are town mouse,for us who go to the remotest and unforgiving terrains of zambia,the pipo really need seriuosness to approch of national issues…not this chicken feed we get from you.

18. Hey this is a good one. Great stuff , this cracked me up” Chief Government spokesperson, Ronnie Shikapwasha said in a statement yesterday that it would be wrong for the president to reduce himself to the level of Mr Hichilema, a deputy leader of a political party grouping that had no developmental agenda except lies and insults” Really demeaning. Anyway truly speaking, in which country have you seen a sitting head of state have a debate mid way thru his term. I dont know of any, but it can still start in Zambia I guess. But anyway I love the dis

19. i once travelled with Hon Simbao along the bottom road through Chabbobboma,Chisanga all the way to chiyabii and sinazeze.That man is hardworking and honest.he agrees that he witnessed naked suffering of the pipo.no wonder he has no taime to waste talkin rubbish.Shikapwasha,veteran,CIA.,learn to be compasionate about pipoz suffering.Thats all HH wants,to have RB talk about his suffering and justify to his oppenets that he has forgetn about these suffering voiceles Lusu where teachers walk about 60kms on foot to get ther slave montly wage.

20. I agree with Positivist pa ZED.However,its not written anywhere that a president cant have debate mid-way.On the other hand, he cant do that to critically prove that he is ontrack…something about monitoring,Evaluation and feedback on his perfomance so far.remember,M&E is a crucial managemnet tool and must be done in a critical manner.Debates on current topical issues would be welcome to me,esp on issues such as the Independence of judiciary,privatisation of Zamtel,media regulation,NGo act, fuel issues etc

21. # 14, Don’t over expose your ignorance on matters you have no idea on. You are better off staying your course of posting insults we have all come to identify you with than talking of constitutional and standard political practices you have no mileage in. You should understand why General elections are for a given time and only launched following an executive order signature while constituency bye-elections are by the EC Chief. There is nothing on this matter you can be allowed to mislead ungrounded folks because we are fully grounded in these fundamentals. If you have your own theories, we challenge you to soberly debate. Get some grounded minds on campaign and elections to orient you.

22. RB does not need to be demeaned by any one,he is self demeaning.This high power distance culture in Zambia where presidents are treated like demi-gods should stop.What is so special about RB?As far as am concerned he is just one ugly toad that just croaks nonsense everyday.The behaviour of these inept so called leaders like Shikapwasha only confirm that the MMD is not a democracy but a fraudulantly elected dictatorship.Why have a president who cannot talk to opposition? In Zambia we don’t have a “government of the people,by the people and for the people” but, government of MMD,by MMD and for MMD cadres and their families and bootlickers.

23. I would like to bring another dimension to these debates. Firstly debates require a well cultured leadership. This is missing inmost of the party leaders, I need not name them as we know them already. If we had such a debate of the top three politicians, we would probably result in a cheap name calling competition. And while this would appeal to a lot of our illiterate and uninformed electorate ( normally refered to cadres) It would not really add any value to our goovernance. Secondly if we were to line up the previous three presidents and the incumbant for a debate , my view is Chiluba would beat them all hands down, with Mwanawasa becoming a distant last . Now would any of you bloggers say that is a reflection fof their calibre ? think about it!! This is why Gordan Brown is reluctant

24. Interviews however with a skilled interviewer can be more positive. Mulenga of Newcastle is displaying just what I am saying by the name calling and this is exactly what RB, Sata and HH do. This is not to say they are dull, it isprobably the political culture that we have developed. There are actually some countries where ther are physical fights in parliament so we are not to low down the drain…. Oh and I guess Mulenga can comment on Gordan Browns reluctance to engange in public debate. Closer home the late LPM comletely refused ang I feel this had to do with what I would call his challenges in expressing himself

25. Could someone please clear my confused mind, I was of the view that presidential debates (as usual Zambia coping American style), are held in an election year. The period after is meant for unity and working together. It seems like in Zambia all year round we are in campaign mode….its pity, because what time do those in power have for focussing their attention to issues of national development. However, I for one would love to see a debate between HH and Sata to determine who I will put my vote on for presidency. This should be the focus of your attention HH, RB is in power till 2011, forget about him. A debate between you and Sata, could be an excellent idea, so as we go to the convention to pick a pact president, we are able to pick an articulate leader, to represent Zambia after 2011.

26. #14
    I beg to differ with you, Zambia has presidential democracy and not parliamentary cos the head of state is directly voted in by voted as opposed to parliamentary where the President(SA,Botswana) or Prime Minister is voted by the party with majority.

27. HH is also a president. Even him can say debating with rb would demean his status. So, to you shikapwasha rb will be debating with animals, eh?

28. #26 should read”is directly voted in by voters or is it electorates”

29. “a public debate organised by the Press Freedom Committee of The Post newspapers”

    Even I would decline. A debate organized by the post which is anti-govt will be biased and there is no way anyone can object to this FACT.

    Mr. Hichilema has always come out 3rd in all the presidential elections he has taken part in. Even when he was standing for a combined force known as the UDA, he still only managed to be 3rd. Why must the President debate someone who is insignificant in the Zambian political arena? HH is still a political lightweight who should first stand as an MP to gain experience. After that is when we can consider him for presidential level political worthiness. As of now, he is a junior when it comes to politics and is only popular in blogs.

30. The reason why debates should be done continously is that the RB MMD Kanitundila government is messing up everyday.So why wait for 2011? When you have a clueless bunch of cadres in goverment grossly mismanaging the economy and peoples lives, you don’t wait until its an election year!Zambians rae so used to sub-standards that anything to the contrary is unacceptable. To you #24 Positivist pa Zed, for your information, there is Prime Minister’s question time regularly here in Britain and Gordon Brown is grilled all the time .In Zambia the president is a high and mighty god who cannot talk to meer mortals,shame!The Zambian constitution should be thrown out of the window including the NCC because nearly everything contained there is draconian and retrogressive.

31. I think Ronnie is right for now….why should the Head of State parade himself with a Cadre on public deabate…surely everywhere in the world there is protocal..HH should be paraded with bena Kadobis of this world.Even when H.H goes to visit Malawi, he wont even be recognised as a Politician.I am organising a public debate for the so called HAKASATA with Jeff Kande and Joseph Chilambwe so that they can all debate at cadre level….

32. Veteran, the only person exposing ignorance is you. You are so narrow minded its unbelivable! Exhibit a level of objectivity since you claim to be so knowledgable and everybody else ignorant. Do you not know that even a private ordinary citizen has the right to ask the president a question and expect an answer? This tendency of bowing down to Presidents as we do in Zambia is for I.D.I.O.T.S like you who earn there living that way. I dont usually use such language, but i think its time someone told you, you think like a 3 yr old. My 4 yr old son asks “why” to a lot of questions, he does not just follow blindly like a lamb to the slaughter. You cannot have a single dimensional arguement everytime that you write on this thread!

33. OK lets put the debate aside its being arranged by whoo??? is it an indepentent group that wants this to happen????
    On a serious note if we have debates even through developing period with no elections in sight when is the work going to be done???
    Problem i think these chaps and there resources are slowly draining and they are in a hurry to get to state house but not everyone sees this all our leadears are desperate to get to state house. For HH since most believe the guy already has money well whatever stopped a man freom digging into abandant resources especially if it gives you so much power and influece.

34. #33 CIA you have a point. But has RB ever done anything else apart from travelling and holding campain rallies. To me this indicates he can afford some time for a debate. After all they already debatiting albeit using insults.

35. #32

    On the issue of bowing down to the head of state i agree with you i dont like either but maybe the problem is the people that do it they over do it. The queen is addressed to in a similar manner but again thats royalty.
    If i where to be a politician and later on be president i would make sure that everyone that i work with knows that we are at the same level and working together to achive the same go, so the bowing is out as it makes them feel and look small, like talking to a giant which they must obey. In such a working environment you never get the best results out of the best workers you have got most will do there job just so they keep and usually to there own benefit.

36. number 21 is a shameless arm chair critic who clearly is a hired gun for the MMD on this site.The issue here is not about semantics veteran.challenge me if i lied about the suffering of many people in rural i talked about.debates should not only be for the purpose of elections.they shuold also be on many important burning issues.thats democracy,dont hide behind elections.if america does it only before elections..well, we are not america.we have to stand up,set our own standard and be counted.your conservative way of doing things is rather archaic.we need o breath of fresh air

37. I dont know whether its our history of poverty or the fact that most Zambians are only the second geneartions in their families to be eductated, but i think successful Zambians lack humility. Especially so called leaders. They even forget that they are meant to be our servants, and when they address press conferences its like they are telling off children. They do this with impunity, because us Zambians respect money too much. But the issue of them being on some level to high to associate with anyone is total nonesense. If RB can pluck a girl from a village and marry her, then he sure as hell can talk to HH . Lets be a bit more humble, just because you may be more educated, richer, better job than someone, it does not make you a better person, its just circumstances differ.

38. #34 Deja Vu
    Ok then lets have the debate but lets think this through would HH and/or Sata agree to the debate arranged by say the times of Zambia??/ i dont think so Post is biased and such can not be the ones calling for a debate.
    Remember most of the opposition have almost always refused to attend any meeting arranged by the seating government, in this case we all know on which side the post is on

39. talking about ignorance,its you veteran whose knows nothing beyond your nose.I invite you for a tour of remote western and northern that i will be taking just next week.when we reach beyong sinjembela and just after nyika plateau,you will appreciate why we are so annoyed about your useless arguments.poverty is real in this country

40. Do you know that grown men, so called “honourable” ministers, peoples husband and fathers, som eof them with phd’s used to get down on their knees and crawl when speaking to chiluba in his office? I have seen it with my two eyes. That is disgraceful! Penza wa one of the few who refused to do such nonsense.

41. simon simple you are right,we are all the same in the eyes of GOD.lets talk to each other regardsless of our status for the sake of development.Well, we can ask the church to moderate.iam sure they would love to play a role of referring…not the Post…not the Times

42. And can you people stop calling others arm chair critics unless you are on a stool yourself lol because we are all allowed to express opinion name calling only shows that we are all single minded people not willing to learn from each other.

    And it doenst make us any different from the people we are critisizing which might be why they do the thing they do

43. its true simon,i saw siacheye madyenkuku,former sports minister kneel before chiluba in my presence

44. RB, if he is not scared, he must take up the debate. it doesnt matter who set up the debate because all media will be represented there. if he’s the bigger man he says he is, then he must prove it or else by not taking it up he’s showing us just how SCARED he is of defeat. a debate is totally in order. the people need to know what views our leaders have on the development of our nation. thats what a democracy is about. we all need to be a part of this. HH is doing well by demanding a debate.

45. HH is the Southern province Pact Chairman as Chairman Daniel Munkombwe is for the ruling MMD.If he longs for a Presidential level platform, he should first become a party President. Currently he is no closer to even his senior Inonge Wina the PACT’s National chairperson.Out of national election season and without a statutory executive order signed during which the head of state is open to political platforms, HH has his MMD Southern province colleague Chairman Daniel Munkombwe to debate with.It will be breaking protocol and giving a national stature to a provincial chairman.

46. And where have you seen a country parading its head of state before untrained insulting ghetto subversive anarchists? That would be unforgivable error of insulting rational citizens in the body of Christ, patriotic voters, and mature citizens around across the country. There are credible institutions like LAZ, EFZ and many other professional bodies who can preside over executive level platforms in future. Those anarchical tabloids are for fanatics.

47. Veteran ulaumwa cana. HH is a national leader whether you like it or not unless you hallucinate southern province makes up 20 to 25% of Zambia’s registered voter population.

48. LET RB & HIS HIS WIFE TAKE THE DEBATE IF REALLY HE IS IN TRACK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. WHY THE BIG ROUND MIMBA IS SCARED. HH WANTS TO QUESTION HIS WORK, HIS OPERATION SO LET CHI RB GO ON STAGE TO ANSWER THE YOUNG MAN.

49. RB IS SIMPLY INTELLECTUALLY NAKED AND THAT IS WHY HE IS SCARED OF EXPOSURE, HE KNOWS THAT HH CAN UNDRESS HIM POLITICALLY, INTELLECTUALLY, MORALLY, ACADEMICALLY EVEN ECONOMICALLY. IF HE CLAIMS TO BE POPULAR THEN LET HIM GO ON THE STAGE AND BE CONGRATULATED FOR HIS POPULARITY BY PIPO WHO WILL BE PHONING. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO IS ORGANIZING THE DEBATE COZ EVEN MMD JOURNALISTS WILL BE THERE TO REPRESENT THEIR SUGAR DADY..

50. RB is a head of state with legal rights to the protocol refferred to, but he has no legitimacy. Legality Versus Legitimacy, Legal form Versus Reality. What i am trying to say to Veteran is, to you HH might be a “provincial chairman” deserving less respect than RB, but others might beg to differ with you, and think the one who goes prancing around topless, with big belly hanging out (giving children nightmares) is less deserving of respect. Just because Rb is head of state does not mean he commands the respect and adorationhis position is meant to bring.

51. “Under the able leadership of this MMD
    Government, Zambia and her people have
    weathered the storm well. While growth
    in the developed world dipped into
    negative territory and in Sub-Saharan
    Africa fell to 1.3 percent, Zambia is
    poised to achieve commendable growth of
    at least 4.3 percent this year. This is a
    tribute to the hard work of our farmers
    and miners, the ingenuity of our private
    sector and the steady hand of Government
    under the leadership of His Excellency the
    President, Mr. Rupiah Bwezani Banda.” Rt Hon. Dr S. Musokotwane PhD. Minister of Finance, Former Act. Deputy Governor, (BOZ), Director (ZCCM-IH)

52. Could someone enlighten me. Does the Zambian constitution provide the president with a forum through which he makes periodic reports on the state-of-affairs in the country… to tell the nation the progress that the ruling government is making? Like the State-of-the-Union address in the States. Some of these concerns that HH and many other bloggers here have expressed, may partially be addressed through such a forum…

53. Winstone Zulu: Ours is a parliamentary democracy. All querries on government are made through parliament as parliamentary questions to ministers and the leader of the house, the Vice President. There is no obligation on the part of the president to give reports except as and when he chooses through whatever means, press conference, public rally or at the airport! (lol) The trouble with Zambian democracy as it is now, is that the opposition leaders are not MPs, except Saki. In USA, there is no official leader of opposition as such. In Zambia we have given too much credence to opposition party leaders which they don’t deserve. Perhaps the constitution must require opposition party leaders to be from the party’s MPs.

54. I agree with Ronnie here. These chaps, Sata, HH etc. are leaders of their parties and are not equal to the Republican President. RB, like it or not, is the President and as such he is only answerable to the Zambian people through their ‘elected representatives.’ If RB were to debate with HH, where does it stop? Tomorrow, a primary school headteacher will also demand debate! Sorry Mr HH, wacepa sana. Become an MP, then you can debate the VP in parley. Otherwise, just work hard to win in 2011 and get power the right way!

55. Pipo wat is wrong wt man so called rev.hh cn debate wt n one

56. While Hichilema and his Godfather Sata are in a fragile alliance of President and regional provincial chairman, but Zambia’s centrist ruling MMD is in a binding and enduring alliance with Zambian citizens across political and regional divide who are the true voters.

57. To adress Mulenga at Newcastle, I love the uestion sesion in thE UK and would to hAVE that in Zambia, but since Zambia does not have a parliamentary system, that would not be order. Under our system the presidents appointee e.g. the Vice president and Ministers eespond to parliamentary concerns. I really do not know of any presidential Democracy today where the Head of State will have a public debate mid way through his term or of any system where Parliamnent can subject the president to direct scrutiny. .. But anyway forgive the way Sikapwasha put it. But in all fairness a President should not be subjected to such debated mid way, it has no benefit, like i said earlier I do feel interviews are betterway of getting answers

58. I must also addd that one reason Zambia is not making enough progress ( watch i said enuff because some is being made ) is that too och time is spent concentrating on thenext election as opposed to getting down to work. So uchnegativity has been created that an outsider reading would think that ZAmbia ia on fire, when this is not the case.It makes we wonder if democracy is right for us

59. Forgive the little one, for he has a dream which he can see sliding away each day, as the popularity Sata keeps growing everyday. His only hope now is to expose his wittness to the public, in the hope that he will gain political mileage. Thus his dire need to be able to debate at the highest platform. My advise to the little one, wait for two more years, for now, concentrate on securing pact presidency, so you can increase your chances of standing with RB on similar platform. A power hungry person, is an enemy to his own cause.

60. The blind loyalty of some of the MMD cadres on this blog, such as Veteran, is repulsive to say the least. If RB and his gang do not want a debate he (RB) should at least have a phone-in programme so that citizens can grill him. Right now he is just hiding in a cocoon and he does not know what is happening in the country. He is only interested in Eastern Province and not in the whole country. Those who voted for him from other parts of the country should have known better. A log will float in a river for hundreds of years but it will never become a crocodile.

61. #58 Postivist pa Zed, I like the way you reason on this blog.Its just so painful that in Zambia leaders in power only look to the next elections instead of getting down to work on their current mandate.Its a shame that, excluding countries that are at war or been through war, Zambia is the poorest.Zambia’s poverty stems from the poverty in the quality of its leaders.Parliament in Zambia is docile and just a rubber stamp for draconian laws and gratuities.If you are a bright young man like you Positivist no body gives you a platform to speak your views to the nation unless you are Miko Chiluba or Patrick Mwanawasa (empty heads).The only independent paper (post) is half the time disollusioned in its approach to issues.

62. I don’t understand why anyone would even think of respponding to the garbage that this i.di.ot who calls himself veteran spews out daily. This is an ignorant MMD cadre with nothing in his dreary life to show. Ignore this s.o.b.

63. Six more days: Solwezi yalala.

64. I have ejoyed reading the comments on this thread. Of the few which seem to be from useless MMD blog cadres, one seems to be so baseless, inspid and du.ll -guess who made it? No one but Senior Citizen now called veteran.

65. Don’t be petty ladies and gentlemen. Columns for comments are meant for objective and informed analysis/comments. Using such a blog for cheap campaigns to intellectuals is disgusting. Talk about facts. I, for one would prefer HH to RB for president but i feel HH is for now just another cadre, NOT AN OFFICIAL CANDIDATE FOR NATIONAL DEBATE. Expressing emotions here just goes to display our emotive approach to political debate. Let principle and issue be our guide. Tone down and please ALL resist personal attacks lest you be reduced to the very calibre that each side despises….

66. Ladies and gentlemen, just what’s up? Why do you want to give us an impression chaps in the diaspora are as insultative and petty as the any typical cadre in Z? Give us something educative and objective. You live us believing some characters ran away because they failed to stand their ground in Zambia and feel so frustrated. Give us mature views not your tired emotions whether you are for SATA, HH or RB. Please note for now that this is not for these three, 2011 is two years away… HH, SATA and RB will then sit on the same bench eyeball to eyeball. NOT NOW.

67. The MMD is feeling the Heat.. They will try to divide the pact, but will fail. HH has pulled a good one here. Let SATA ateke, and that way,…We kickout these cantekourous. Sata is alos Zambia and he needs the HH votes to win against these morons.. HAKASATA you have our votes on this one..

68. the president and his vice are both just freaking civil servants! sheesh. some people live to feel important.

    sell zambia to taiwan!

69. Why? Because hakainde would win the debate – hands down. And then they would find fault in him and the story goes on. The Black Curse!!!

70. How will Zambians know who to vote if there are no national debates?? Just because MMD has agreed to have Rupiah as their party president without debates from his party…DOES NOT MEAN Zambia wants him to run without questioning his vision for Zambia. We need to learn more about all these leaders belief system, economic policies. All candidates in Zambia should debate so that Zambia has an informed choice. RB is 72 years old he needs to prove there are no younger leaders to take his place. Let them debate…….

71. twalavota nombaline with or without the debat they are going

72. shikawash is useless and he’s like boxer in animal farm..ka mulongoti is squirrel….HH mwaiche..hands up..u r the man..come 2011..

73. In summary,all i can simply say is that our is scared of being exposed.Mwaba ama tole bonse ba star nina ni ka vice kobe.

74. our president is scare………………………….

75. Debating for what! Let our listening President RB continue with National duties please.

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