Doctors have ordered the ailing former president Frederick Chiluba sent to South Africa for treatment after his heart condition deteriorated, a Chiluba spokesman said on Tuesday.
Emmanuel Mwamba said Chiluba, who was in court on Tuesday attending a graft trial of his wife Regina in Ndola and would be flown to South Africa after doctors said he needed immediate specialist treatment.
Mwamba said Chiluba’s cardiac problem had worsened over the last few weeks and that the 64-year-old former leader needed to see his doctors in South Africa before a scheduled treatment review at a Johannesburg clinic in early August.
“Doctors have said his condition has deteriorated and that he needs to go to South Africa for immediate treatment and review,” Mwamba told Reuters by telephone from Ndola.
“The government has competed arrangements for his evacuation and he will leave as soon as the trial for his wife is adjourned because she performs nursing duties for him,” Mwamba said of Regina who is a trained nurse.
Chiluba refused to go for treatment in South Africa in March after authorities declined to allow his wife to accompany him, and he only left after Regina was also permitted to go.
In May, Chiluba spent five days in a Zambian hospital after he collapsed at his Lusaka home.
Chiluba, his wife and a number of associates are the subject of graft trials over allegations they stole large amounts of money during his 10 years in power from 1991-2001.
Chiluba has denied he or his associates stole funds during his rule and accuses and accuses his successor Levy Mwanawasa of a political witch hunt.
Bambo Chanda Phiri (3),
Like I have said it time and again here, critically look at the whole bureaucracy and operations systems in Zambia to understand the confusion. The Zambian challenges are not about hiring qualified controlling officers and their auxiliary staff, but a dangerous culture of “self rational interestâ€- what is in it for me that I should deliver it all. The current regime I beat you has and is hiring top notch citizens. Many of who are returning from successful Diaspora schools some with vast work experience from multinational corporations. Among them are the long time public service workers sent to further up their studies overseas and returning for more responsibilities. There are many I could point at serving and those still rapping up their studies with time frames. They are of very strong and established backgrounds. There ethical issues we should help reinforce and safeguards impossible to flout. Unless you are telling of qualifications from the moon, otherwise they are plenty than you seem to believe. I encourage you to make yourself an audit of who is who and where. Look at Dr. Nselemuka and his energy shortages; Nkunika at works and supply with his GRZ contracts payments, General Tembo at Transport & Communications with his information technology inertia, Dr. Austin Sichinga in the VP office and his Disaster Management. Look at Peter Mumba at HA, MOF and their treasury management. These are just a few of the many of the best qualified controlling offices yet enumerate their flaws. The issue at hand is not education or qualifications but non ethical practices based on self rational interestâ€- what is in it for me that I should deliver it all.
When you dont believe in your own service’s and improve them, you start trekking to your neighbour.
When the world talk about Africa, they only think of RSA, and the rest of the continent is just drought,poverty ,war and mugabe.
Former President seeks treatment in foreign state!!!!
Be well soon Boss.
Get well soon bwana Kafupi. You’re running the doctors you fired. But, don’t forget we need our money soon so that we can equip UTH with modern equipment and maybe call back the doctor you fired. Now my worry is when we get this money, it’ll be laying idle like some other monies in Commercial Banks waiting for bye elections.
#3 GLUCO Pilz we have instructions from Ba Joze not pass any comments over FTJ because he has much stress that is why his heart has become to bad. You know judgement day is 13th the friday yape Ba Joze has instructed us all to read from the book of levictus looking for deliverance. I think its a good for a christian nation like Zambia. According to the Rúfqua page 1000 it say stealing is help yourself so long you are not caught. Telling lies is making your head light period. You see now that money in the Commercial Bank lying idle its meant for a good purpose our children are starting seeing light at the end of the tunnel for Fundanga and Magande cannot balance their books between 2003 and 2005. They need the K1,9 Trillion to pay Simeza and Sangwa when there legal battle starts in 2012. Magande is already blind he just sees strings lines in the poverty of Zambia. Yesterday in Parliament he was using walking stick to read the figures on the expenditure and income of Zambia.
It is so annoying to watch a guy who never bothered about improving the situation at UTH, stole our money (taxpayers’), belittled everyone, JUST ABOUT DID EVERYTHING WRONG UNDER THE SUN, go off to Johannesburg at taxpayers’ expense again to get treated for a manageable condition! This my friends is totally uncalled for… Please Levy and all aspiring leaders do something meaningful for Zambia. Or perhaps should I include myself in this request and say, we should do something about this…
BOY OH BOY,BACK TO THIS MAN AND HIS FUNNY HEART,AND US THE TAXPAYERS HAVING TO FORK OUT FOR HIS BILLS.SHAME ON US.MAYBE IT MIGHT PACK UP AND SAVE US MONEY.JUST A WISH
UTH is an institution we should “have been†proud of, & we “could still be!†That place has produced talent, that one can only dream of, if one were to roll out the alumni & where everyone is & what they are doing, you’d have a lump in your throat wondering why why??? Well, roll back the years, when they politicians would harp about how insolent the junior doctors were & didn’t hesitate to fire them, no one came to their aid. So they learnt quickly, to keep their heads down & how to get on the next plane out – medicine is one profession that is a passport to the world, people sacrifice their lives in their youth to study for 7 long years to serve & save other peoples lives even for a pittance as long as they can be appreciated & looked after. It is now down to the masses to get these politicians to turn the ship round, it is time people became proactive – People have to learn that to make MP’s accountable, you have to make life hard for them, hound them whenever you meet them..cont
cont… make them feel uncomfortable to the point where they feel threatened, only then will they wake up & return to parly to direct prioritised spending for real developmental purposes. We are too timid with them, & only look at them in awe as they cruise around in the landcruisers! We have all experienced too much pain losing loved ones in these institutions, BUT it’s all in our hands, WE CAN CHANGE IT!!!We only have to mobilise & sensitise. MP’s need to really pressure MOH – the PS, no one should shield him, he should be pursued with the same vigour expended on FTJ.
#5 Dont worrd the evil he did is haunting him. He is running to SA maybe the same junior doctors who axed are treating him. shame!
#5 I agree with you totally. He neglected what he now needs. Foolish Kafupi. Honestly all these amounts he is spending trekking even unscheduled plus what he pocketed, would we not have all these facilities. Its annoying.
What is MORE ANNOYING, is people just crying about it as above..”shame”, ..”it’s annoying”, etc etc, it is time you went & talked to your family, friends ,etc etc mobilise & sensitise, don’t just cry about it, the next election is not too far away .. attend Oasis forum events, contribute to these, identify individuals who are sound, research their back grounds, then invite them to further debates – basiclly, do your homework now, such that when “cheap good for nothing” politicians come around, you will have already known who is up to the job, we need a revolution of the magnitude that gave us MMD,( of course without the crap that fills it today!)
#11 You are really annoyed, take Amolodipine 5mg to reduce your pressure.Lead by example as well, how much are you doing yourself to sensitise your relatives , clans etc to be weary of wolves in sheeps clothing? It will make sense if at all you are doing what you have just stated on#11 otherwise even for you it is mere rhetoric and the grieving will continue like anyone else on the blog.
RUFQUA Page 7777 states that”Often we allow ourselves to be upset by small things we should despise and forget, we loos many irreplceable hours brooding over grievances that in years to come will be forgotten by us and everybody”.Action oriented approach is all what we want.
Is Kuku and Ba Joze preparing to accompany the former president to RSA? Where are they to lead us in this touching story?
#13 Nkhataboy mwaice I want to fulfill my promise to FTJ incase all his houses are sold to liquidate$57m, so Iam busy working on the guest wing so that I can comfortably house him should the coin be tossed heads down.This is what call contigency planning mwaice, plan for eventualities, not like Ben Kapita , who exports maize before getting the actual picture on the ground, come septmeber the price of mealie meal will shoot through the roof.Next year indicators for drought are very real and this man has no storage facilities,no plans for the next 4 years in terms of food security and then you start getting yellow maize from Latin America which is used to feed pigs inorder to raise their libido, mwaice Nkhataboy you see the number of rape cases becuase of yellow maize like what happened in 1980 when KK imported the same stuff from Latin America, now it will be like feeding the nation on viagra,there is going to be total mess
#14 Kuku, I wish you well in your contigency planning. This man tricked over 12 million people of Zambia. Stealing from them in broad day light. Even now, he is still stealing from them by using tax payers money to take him to South Africa and back. If he managed to deceive more than 10 million people, what would make him not deceive you when you start harbouring him in your guest wing. Good lucky as you pray to experience hos deeds. Ask Vera and the trith shall be told to you.
Easy #4. I get your point. I may as well buy the book of RÙFQUA from Ba Joze.
Bauze #11. You are right. We just complain but no action taken. Yes 2011 is not far. We need New Blood of course not crooks like FTJ. We don’t need these recycled politicians around with same agendas. These guys will never develop our nation. Look at billions lying idle, at last they will themselves in another ZAMTROOP account.
#15 Mwaice Nkhataboy, if he was your father what would you do?Where is it written that any person who steals must be rejected?God forbid, Nicodemus was stealing and cheating people but that did not compel Jesus to deny him the Kingdom of God,Saul(Paul) was killing people but at the end of it all he ended up in the right place in the kingdom of God,the woman committing adultery ended up in Jesus’ empire so who are you not to forgive?Its not that I support his attrocities of course he is not worse than bush and Tony who have commited mortal sin by killing innocent people in Iraq and Afhaganstan,this man stole money which are according to your authorities is traceable.Vera is a criminal too, the fact that she never shared the loot led her to do what she did.In any case its my heart and spirit to forgive and forget and will keep this man in harmony with his wife until death do us part.
#17 Kuku, Who tells you that this man never killed people? He killed just as Bush and Blair have done. When he was taking those monies to pay for his suits and donate to the churches in USA, people were dying at UTH and other hospitals because the government had no money to purchase relevant medicines. You lost your close associate because UTH had no proper canulars to use. All these could have been acquired and replaced during Chiiluba’s rule but to no avail. You really have a strong heart that can forgive even when you are seeing a hand being pushed in your pocket after airing a warning. It is not only a question of tracing the money here. If I was one of the judges, I would have dug deeper to establish how many people died from 1991 to 2001 in hospitals due to lack of medicine and other requirements. That would have beeen one of the cases I was going to give the man you want to tame in your guest wing . Murder case to so many innocent Zambians.
Very interesting comments on FTJ’s heart here, one thing is that the Man is sick, lets go back to the the 80, and late 90’s, the man was very active. Now that we have established the fact that the man is sick, fact continually been proven by medical Doctors in SA and Zed then we ask outselves, is he entitled to specialist treatment? The is yes!! He served this nation (whether rightly so or not) but the man is entitled to specialist treatment which if he can’t get in Zed, the state should facilitate that he gets it elsewhere. Lets not demeen human life here, the man is SICK.
#19 you have put the finger rightly so,
#18 I like to deal and dwell on facts, where you in Zambia between 1980 and 1991? did you ever visit the state hospitals in those days?If you did wha can you say changed after 1991?dilapidation of these hospitals were beyond redemption, the smells, the stench, the floods to the mortuary, mwaice wandi yali ma house of horrors, so dont react out impulse, MMD govt tried their level best to clean these hospitals, patients had linen,they even went further to employ CDE’s to just keep the dirt out for good,it was an enormous task which was ably tackled in the first 5 years of FTJ rule, there was nothing you can get out of UTH not even ORS in those days,so let us give credit where it is due, unless you were young to understand what Am talking about.Dont just condemn for the sake of condemn or because your neighbour is doing it,be factual, rational and analytical, people died emasse during KK’s rule, that UTH was only cleaned when KK was going for there
I think i like Ba Kuku’s pattern of thought, the MMD govt tried to clean up the mess @ places like UTH even during very harsh IMF conditions to reach HIPC which Levy & Magande keep singing about.
#19 Changwe, We are not saying the man does not deserve any special treatrment. If you may recall, there was an accident last weekend along Kitwe Chingola road where a mini bus driver joined the main way without regard. As a result, the truck driver on the main way had no choice but to ram into the peadestrians. The truck driver reacted like that because he says there were alot of people in the minibus. As a matter of logic,he thought it was relatively easier to find talent on where there were more people than a few pedestrians. How many people did we lose that could have performed better than this guy if he had directed the money where it was due. We are talking of the young and old who died due to harsh conditions during this man’s reign. I even fail to make a conlusion on this matter. May be to forgive him and just forget about the whole thing like Kuku has done.
#20 kuku and many others here may I ask all of you a more direct question. Whose life is important for that man in plot 1 or the voters who give that mandate to be there? Kuku this one point where we differ. I know you dont mean it for whatyou are saying- to for give. For giveness is only for pipo who accept for their wrongdoings. FTJ has been refusing to accept that he did wrong during is era. He will continue until death.Now if tomorrow kuku you get sick with heart problem are you sure govt will take you to Morningside clinic? I pretty sure you have to exhaust so many channels. What touches me most you are using the bible to justify your standing on this issue. Pilz I advice you desist from this becuase God is the one who gives and takes. I know your stand on the old man is human pilz dont paint a wrong picture about how he should be forgiven because he is adamant. Your are aspiring for leadership in 2011 and pipo they listen and read to your views. It is our responsibility to…
#22 I have not got your point rightly, if I did I respond by saying have you ever driven on the roads from Livingstone to Kasumbalesa?This driver ***** rammed into innocent people because he didnot abide by the speed limit a loaded truck is supposed to be driving on, and this cant be referenced to FTJ refer it to LPM who is fighting corruption under his blankets,secondly these roads on the belt are well maintained and becuase of the corrupt Traffic Police there is no rule of law, so revisit your comment #22 and make it clear as to what you want to say.
ctd.23 change the system which has been derailed and antogonised. Pilz pipo listen to your innermost and make constrcutive contribution especially how can we curb this problem by bringing back sanity to our hospitals not only UTH. Pipo are dying everyday of disease which can be prevented.Sometimes we tend to joke about realities. should we wait until death catch us I say no its now we have to start confronting the dilema that has engulfed Zambia. Chiluba is unfortunate to be a wrong place, at a wrong time at a wrong composition of popi who surrounded him.Shame to all who have led Zambia without a vision and dreams. Shame those who are stealing public funds to enrichen themselves. God forbids he can as well punish.
Ba monko;
You are so professional in the issues of political analysis and the like.
Lets now make Zambia a better place for our children.
Issues of UTH and other hospitals to be improved should be our interest.
The question here is not only blaming the past,but strategizing the current condition in which we are.
Lets ask ourselves these questions:
What is the ministry of health doing improve the current phenomina?
Is the ministry responding in accordance to what the doctors are presenting as lacking in the hospitals?
Is it really impossible for the entire government to say OK now our focus is to renovate the hospitals ,build new labs,purchase new equipments,and thereafter improve working conditions?
Lets be proud of this kinda thing where what we say is seen as havin’ been done.We the youths don’t seem to have ichimwela in starting politics…If u tell me how UTH used to be…It won’t help.
Tell me organ transplant happens atUTH now.Then improvement is seen.dialysis machines
The direct answer to te direct question on whose life is more important between one’s in Plot 1 and the voter’s, both, life is life regardless. Ba Kuku’s proosal of forgivin the man, forgive him of wat? Help me on this one pleeesee.
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Dialysis machine and the like.
Tell me that the modern hospital rumour in Chongwe has come true.
Tell me the youths are pressurising the state to build modern hospitals and turn former ones into clinics hahahhaaha.
Actually while we are complaining here,public funds are sleeping in the BANK “IDLE MASHELEN’I.
Are we chimbwi no plan?
Whether we like it or not,we really need to learn from Amachocho.
Where actions and decisions are concerned,the chinese are the BEST.
If you follow what bashi Tito used to say in his reign he used to say “Bane development is step by step,London was not built in a day”.Tell you what?
He visited China in about the year 1996 and later in 2000 and stopped saying London was built in hundred years.
Just for those who relate China for poor quality roducts,its all about standards of life here.If you don’t control quality in your country,then they take advantage of the situation.
The best material Europe has ever seen come from China.OOOPS i need to eat DOG MEAT NOW hahaaha
#26 You are right just to remind you a bit one hand cannot pick a lice. The president after eletcions appointed ministers and on the Minister of health he emphasised that he want to see change after three months in hospitals. What is the end result Minister droped. slowly I realise that management of this the problem here because what I have discovered in Zambia popi want to make a name. So once an ideas is not coming from their mouths they will frastrate it too much of self esteem. For how long have been talking of building a new hospital, universities, stadiums etc. Why are things not moving. We have a crop of leaders in govt who dont want to leave any legacy I think they use idealogies like Keynes who after all in 100 years we are dead. My dear life will continue even after us its time to enjoy now and make our surrounding a better place to live. Not blocking thing can bring progress and development. One day the price will be very high because of these hurdles you find an ….
FTJ’s issue is centre controverse. In my own opinion the guy had no foresight. All he knew was to still and buy designer’s. Today he’s running to RSA for treatment. Why cant he run to his billions and designers for his heart problem? The guy was selfish. At least KK did his best. He runs UTH for his ailments.
ctd. equipement which is supposed to needed to save your life is not available. If you want to have legacy and become a living legend listen to the cry of the people who give you powers to what you are. The force of gravity is activite and strong it push us on down beyond earth surface one day.
#20 Kuku and #21 Changwe, what are you talking about? Who does not know that things across Africa and indeed the entire globe started souring from the 1972 world oil crisis? And to make matters worse the world developed to such an extent that they discovered that it was not only copper that could be used in electric wires. That reduced our copper exports. Further, it was discovered that it was not only copper that could be used in the manufacturing of bullets as such our Cu exports dwindled further. In retrospect again, the telecommunication technology had to do away with the wire lining system going for the satellite system further paralyzing our copper exports. These are just a few of the issues that pushed the price of copper to the minimum on the world market. Mind you, this was the main source of revenue for the country. In order for the copper mines to make profit, they needed to over produce. This resulted into diminishing of coppers reserves. Due to the foregoing, the government was forced to borrow from multilateral and bilateral organizations. 1980s the World Bank and IMF started pushing for their moneys and to keep afloat they started experimenting their economic models on Zambia. As a result, we faced those difficulties to find a short fall of medicines in the hospitals. Come 1990, it was a question of whoever could take over, whether a frog or hyena or monkey people didn’t care. All they wanted to see was change hoping that maybe the economy would be revived. Sadly, it was hijacked by a person who was worse than the World Bank and IMF. Literally, every kind of development came to a stand still from 1991 to 2001. All what was there was to plunder the economy to the point of no return. The entire infrastructure that was built in the 1960s and early 1970s was plundered. The trust that the multilateral and bilateral organizations had developed in the first two years of Chiluba’s rule was retracted when cabinet ministers started resigning sighting corruption. Levy Mwanawasa is one of those that resigned. Therefore, people shouldn’t be surprised with his behavior now. He knows the deeds of Chiluba inside out. He is doing the right thing. The thing that he ran away from that time is what he wants to expose and have it mended.
324 Kuku, All I am saying is why sacrifice so many innocent souls in Zambia against one soul?
Ba Changwe(21), HIPC completion point was never during little Freds reign!! Levy and Magande have alot to sing about,maybe they should sing a little louder becoz the economy is showing signs of recovery.Lets worry about sustaining the recovery.
#33 Iam just adding to you details so that you can have fun for the day:
Between 1974 and 1979 slump in world prices of copper had a severe impact on Zambia’s economy. At the same time Zambia’s access to the sea became problematic as a result of armed conflicts in Angola and Mozambique and Zimbabwe. In 1976 Zambia obtained a World Bank structural adjustment loan. Again in 1978 the government sought assistance for a stabilisation package from IMF with an extended facility covering 1980-1983. Increases in oil prices added to the problems, as by 1985, imports of oil took up to 22.8 per cent of total imports and gobbled 15.3 per cent of total earnings from exports. Because the country’s agricultural sector remained underdeveloped, food import cost the government US$ 30 million annually. Recurrent droughts raised the food import bill. By 1984, Zambia’s foreign debt had risen to 100 per cent of foreign exchange being spent on debt servicing.
The objectives of the Third National Development Plan (TNDP) which run from 1979-1990 was to achieve an annual 4.8 per cent growth in real GDP and 1.5 per cent per annum of per capita income, to attain a savings and investment ratio to GDP of 29 per cent per annum, increase the share of private consumption in GDP from 43 per cent at end of SNDP to 51 per cent and to diversify the economy from copper by increasing the share of manufacturing and agriculture in total GDP (Fourth National Development Plan (FNDP), 1989).
By 1981 however, copper export earnings slumped by 14.6 per cent. The country’s inability to increase other exports resulted in 20 per cent decline in total exports earnings and a current account deficit of 22 per cent of GDP. The value of the kwacha depreciated during the Plan period while the terms of trade continued to deteriorate. The standard of living of the ordinary Zambians deteriorated beyond reproach. With the foregoing it was very evident that Zambians began to feel the pinch with most social and economic indicators declining resulting in the legislative executive adopting various adjustment programmes over the period 1979 to 1990. Social impacts overwhelmed the majority of Zambians culminating into massive food riots of 1986 and 1990 respectively
It is against this background that the government sought assistance of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank to resuscitate and restructure the economy. A three-year adjustment program (1983-1985) was agreed to with the IMF/World Bank. While the TNDP focused on the diversification of the economy towards agriculture, the IMF/World Bank sponsored program emphasized on existing economic and policy reforms. Issues such as devaluation of the local currency (kwacha) to make our exports attractive, price controls, interest rate liberalization, reducing the role of development planning in favour of budgeting, reducing public expenditure, remove subsidies and reducing the overall government budget deficit as well as privatisation of State owned enterprises.
Kuku, I remeber you talking about wireless connection to the inter-net in Zamba.Could you please give me more detail such as the cost per month, areas where the wireless card system is available, which agent is offering this facility etc. Please I need this information urgently because I am only remaining with a month before I come back to Zambia.I would like to be connected so that I can be blogging from mean wood houses near the airport.
#35 There is need to change the way we rate the success of any economy, the common man on the streets must feel the gains, but today if you went round there is nothing to show for Magandelism, people are worse off than than they were,we have 500,000 people in formal employment against the employable age of 5m,if do your ratios, you find that this negligible.The govt must work hard to create quality jobs, this will inturn broaden the tax base and reduce prices to encourage social spending and then collect more taxes to build the economy.but in an economy where manufacturing is dead, I find it difficult to agree to these figurative analysis that the Zambian economy is doing well.I know poverty is caused by politicians than anything else but we need to reverse the current scenario which has permanent feature in our country justify these claims.The people we have entrusted our resources to run are busy siphoning the profits and never plough back for everyone to enjoy
KuKu,you asked who was around in the 1980`s.I was.I was a student at UTH.It was clean.There were alots of drugs and definately very clean.Our diet and college allowances were better than most colleges(K30.00 per month).Things started getting worse after a squeeze from IMF and the World Bank.Ofcourse bashi Panji made some errors as he became paranoid with power and got those who believed in HUMANISM and nothing else to run the economy.
There were some very good times during the Kauda years.I certainly have nothing positive to say about Chiluba`s rule.
#36 Kuku, it is good that you are agreeing with me that Chiluba came to finish of the dying horse. He had a very good opportunity to turn round the economy of Zambia because every nation in the world had rallied behind him. Zambia was a shining example to other developing nations in terms of multi party politics. But everything is now bad history. I appreciate your comments in #36, but please learn to acknowledge the source. You are such a learned person. I know you just forgot to do that.
#38 Nkhataboy check with ww.coppernet.zm, ww.zamnet.zm
but there are a couple more if you are interested in buy masts and dishes for transmission, the company called Uunet on cairo road in National savings building.
#41 Kuku, Thanks for your information about wireless connection. I am tired now. I am going to bed. Thanks for invaluable ideas aftr a long time. Please find Ba Joze we miss him.
Zambia seriously lacks leadership.Yesterday it was VJ,today ,maybe tomorrow LPM being evacuated for medical treatment and the same circus will go on.Are we simply saying that we can`t find a lasting solution to this mess.K700 billion public funds is lying idle in commercial banks and we say we can`t find resources to pump in our health care facilities to bring to a halt these unnecessary evacuations.I honestly think that these recycled politicians are not helping us at all and therfore we need a fresh and innovative breed of individuals to move our country forward.
#40 I can not actually agree with you that FTJ destroyed the economy, read the text #36 and towards the end you will see that there was no option for any leader after Fourth National dev plan, but what we can blame the MMD govt for was its lack of mitigating factors in case the process failed, they went in with all their limbs and head and has failed to come out to this day, things like technology replaced physical jobs and resulted in loss of 7,000 miners, its neither here nor there, KK started diversification too late because he had conditioned people with handouts and turned them fat lazy cows.
#39 Thula that is why I wanted people to rewind the clock to the 80s to know exactly when the down fall of everything in the economy started to stink
Zambia seriously lacks leadership.Yesterday it was VJ,today FTJ ,maybe tomorrow LPM being evacuated for medical treatment and the same circus will go on.Are we simply saying that we can`t find a lasting solution to this mess.K700 billion public funds is lying idle in commercial banks and we say we can`t find resources to pump in our health care facilities to bring to a halt these unnecessary evacuations.I honestly think that these recycled politicians are not helping us at all and therfore we need a fresh and innovative breed of individuals to move our country forward.
#40 mwaice source is CSO and Office of the President, National commission for development planning & ADB,
51-YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER WEDS 27-YEAR-OLD SCRAP MERCHANT
Wedding bells in the bin Laden family.Omar bin Laden, Osama’s 27-year-old son, has married a 51-year-old British grandmother.The nuptials, first reported in the British media, have been confirmed by colleagues of Jane Felix-Browne.Felix-Browne told newspapers that she and bin Laden’s fourth son met while she was horse riding near the pyramids in Egypt and fell in love. They were married in ceremonies in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.She says, “To me, he is just Omar.”She also says her husband has not seen his notorious father since 2000.Felix-Brown, a mother-of-three and grandmother of five who suffers from multiple sclerosis, says she hopes Omar bin Laden will join her in Britain, but because of his last name, “he finds it very difficult to travel anywhere,” according to The Sun newspaper.”His heart is pure, he is pious, quiet — a true gentleman,” the newspaper quotes her as saying.Felix-Brown also reportedly says she does not mind that the scrap metal merchant has another wife and a child in Saudi Arabia.”My husband and I are very close. Even when we are in different countries Omar and I are always in contact,” she says.
You mean the country is still paying for this little thieving *****? What a shame! I see he will not live longer to chew his loot and enjoy his most prized stolen possession!
Kayata you are very tribal and tribal.
That heart has costed us a fortune,well he’ll meet his old friend VJ,u c everybody z reconciling now.
Go go Zambia make South Africa richer and richer through medical fees. Yes Mbeki and his boers are clever now they have managed to convinces Mugabe to start using the Rand. Lesetho, Nambia and Swasiland are alread to the Rand Currency union. So Zambia watched your kwacha will be history and maybe in Zambians will die out soon looking at the exploding exvacuations to SA. Even our health Soccer player they earn their bread and butter in SA. Kalusha is now married to that SA woman . What else do you expect all roads leads south. The once called Zambia railways is now South africa run. Your gusted ZCBC, Mandahill, Acades all is south. Even our Mosi beer is south. What remains to be taken over is Kachaso beer but at least Maheu is still Zambian and sugar we can boost.
Zambian courts should be respected, I cant be tried in a foreign court.
Zambian hospitals should not be respected, i should be treated in a foreign hospital.
Come on guys, courts Yes! hospitals No!
FTJ May God bless you abundantly. You are man of the people. All your achievements are well known and thank God LPM is trying to stay on course without abonding your progressive policies. Zambia hopes more gains will be made as we continue on the path you charted. Regardless of the differences between the two of you, at least he has continued as he pledged when he took oath when he said his was going to be “continuity”. For your persecution dont worry because it has helped LPM to be given a chance by those who can sabotage the country economically. They know that most of their prescriptions on the economy could not work and so they had to look for escape goats like – Zambia has not developed because of “Chiluba’s corruption”. But we all know the history. GOD BLESS YOU. WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
#44 Kuku. You can not blame the citizenary for believing that FTJ “distroyed” the economy. As you have rightly pointed out on #36, Something had to be done about the economy of Z. I will start with Zambia airways. The company was in serious debt, but its assets where worth far more than its indebtedness. FTJ and his minions never took stock of what ZA had. This company had property in every country on the face of the earth. Up to now those assets havent been accounted for. IF FTJ knew what he was doing he could first audited the company. Locate the assets and make an informed decision on the way forward for the company. KLM is operational today because they didnt have “thieves” closing companies in order loot the assets. They could have easily found partners to work ZA. If you do a reserch on the so called propert FTJ has overseas you will find that some of them belonged to the defunct ZA. Look at what MMD did to the manufacturing industry? right now we are growing cotton that ctn..
southa african companies are buying. They are exporting the same cotton to USA using AGOA. Yet we have not even exported a cup of kapenta through AGOA. Come to the health sector, KK used to go for check ups at UTH. With 15 years of neglect to the health sector its far more expensive to upgrade UTH than evacuate a few individuals and let the rest die. FTJ did some positive policies that helped the economy. but the bad outwaighs the good. That guy couldnt even develop the province where he comes from. If you ask me, FTJ did some serious damage to the economy of Zambia. He made decisions either based on ignoorance or purely to benefit himself.
Joe #53, In what sense is he a man of the people? and what are the, supposedly, known achievements?
“Amamen.” We are praying for you.
Ba Chiluba, we will continue praying for you, may God himself protect you and may he heal you, in Jesus name. May he scatter away all your enemies. Its also my prayer that we as a people we will repent and look at you as God’s creation. May God give Zambia a heart to look at fellow human beings as God’s creation who deserve to be loved. May God be glorified in your life Amen!!
Where there is prayer, Justice will prevail. It remains to be known whether FTJ wants that result…
One wonders what the opposite action that would result in carpeting of his thefts would be. Rufqua, might have a few answers.
#58 Musonda Mofu in Holland, you are people who pray before going to steal how can be making funny of God here on the blog. I havent you read the bible thorough it say when a leader sins he sins for the whole nation. God´s provision is if people of the earth agree on something God also accepts it. More he say dont steal.
#12 kuku, I’m indeed annoyed, you may think its rhetoric, but I won’t jump to your invitation to hail to you what am doing, as long as it satisfies me am happy, remember no one is forcing you, if you are just happy to blogg on, that’s fine too – you can reconcile with your conscience.
61# bauze too late kuku is gone for orders. Have you informed your relatives to vote wisely next election that is all he trying to say. Bushe mulaya ko kumalilo jokes are made in order to bring happeness to the that has lost their beloved one. Dont take it serious or else you fail to debate in Parliament. Ask Mr. Nsanda he knows better.
#61,Its not that you are being undermined your reference was made to the bloggers of which Iam part and parcel,its just a simple matter for you to brood about, the question how much are doing it yourself? I have always told you me Iam on the ground doing logistics for 2011, are you part of the 2011 equation? Democracy is govt by ,for and of the people.Its now or never Bauze Ngozi.If you are not in Zambia try hard to identify yourself with a place you know most and start pushing from a distance, that is how that Roan MP did, he was based in Leceister but was always in touch with the masses, so you can always do the same my bros than being annoyed 24/7,kuti wafwa ka na Zambia yashala.Safety kulisunga wemwini mukwasu
#62 Easy nabwela ku ma order atleast there Iam smiling, umuchanga walaingila uwa Kampeni.
#54 SAGE, every asset of Zambia airways was adequately and properly accounted for by the liquidator Price waterhouse coopers through a Mr Ward.If you were to ask for reference you can actually request for access through PWC and check for yourself.To say what that FTJ bought most of those buildings is a mere speculation, and dont always assume, work on facts, every time assets abroad were advertised in the media and bidders were invited from both local and foreign, I can rest assure you that the disposal of these assets was very transparent.A white man is not as bad as blacks look at what HH did during his liquidation of Lima Bank, do you know that the house he lives was bought for a song and was never put up for a bid?And alot more was cheapily and dubiously obtained, so where do you put your trust? No wonder Smith was prefered to conclude the case.We have had enough of mediocre and we must change things you and I, we are the only hope.
Hey you all Nevers Mumba political vagabonds ever writing to the post and outdoing yourselves with your man for favors from Levy. Hear this; Levy and his MMD have three persons to prop up and choose from for plot one come 20011.
1-Sakwiba Sikota
2-Some known success easterner below 46 years
3-A prominent North Westerner above 50 years.
MMD will never give the Presidency to Nevers Mumba. Of them all, one of the first two listed here will go through with the other deputizing.Meanwhile the MMD NEC and strategists machinery will be too strong come 2011 in the run up to 2011.If Sikota takes over, the opposition should forget for another 15 years.Most parties will become irrelevant without a platform to politic on. Levy was LAZ President before Sikota. Infact, Saki was mentored by Levy in his legal career way through to the LAZ top job.
Put this article on your Desks while for our female pundits on your Fridges.Mine is prophetic.
July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 am
#65, that really comes out of the blue, its not even related to the topic at hand. However, it could have been more meaningful had you put your finger on your #2 and 3 persons, other than just giving ages and provinces.
Next time it might be cheaper to fly doctors from RSA to Zambia!
# 60e. Easy, firstly we thank God for this blog, so that we are able to learn from one another. Secondly, the fact that the court ruled that FTJ stole from the country does not in itself mean that now, he should be hated. This is a time he should be loved. For your own information KK also went through this phase, and today he is loved by evry body. Between 1980 and 1990. We suffered, and KK, went out of Government being hated close to 10 years. But Love is above such and today he is a happy man.
After 2011, the story will change. Chiluba will be a happy man. This i can promise you.
Even when we preach justice, love should surpass personal feeelings.
#68 Ba Musonda
KK’s case and Chiluba’s case are very different
while KK was hated mostly for the traits of his Governacy such as , abitrary detentions,Shortages of essential commodities, lining up for long hours for transport,essential and at hospitals.These things with time people learn to forgive.
But in Chilubas case it has been theft of the highest order. Pure and calculated. Who easily forgive or love someone who spent $1.2 Million on clothes and while their relative died in hospital due to lack of simple medicines
#68 Amen.God bless you abundantly my brother, there in Netherlands.
#69 Iwe Ci Citizen bushe taumfwile amashiwi Ba Musonda bafumya? Tawaba namatwi ?apply to siemens for hearing aid and then to Medicare for spectacles, you have ears but hardly listens , you have eyes but hardly sees.
68# Musonda, you are right the V sign and that happening at Kapiri Mposhi over Kaunda. But let me tell you one thing KK is a different man from FTJ he accepted his wrongdoings hence the forgiveness. Nomba ka Mudaala kesu is adamant if you look at on my positing I have not harted Kafupi but we were just asking that he pays back and accept then we can forgive instead now he has made to lions even richer they have sucked him by druging the case. I believe in God and I fear and respect him even Gods kingdom there is right or left so which side does our brother Chiluba want to be. This virus is even spreading to evéry politician because they dont fear anymore. Do you want Zambia to Amagedon. I shade tears because you have notlost a friend, a relative, an uncle, aunt just because there is not doctor or medicine to help the person. Plz desist from making such comments you are harting many others-my heart bleeds with blood
#70 if you send Citizen to siemens he completely stop hearing because they are too corrupted.
Any way you are right. Naine wine balupwa nalufishe bengi lelo fili uko tuya.
Iwe#52 chiwamila mbuzi kuluma galu. Chuchu is always fying to UK for his medical nobody talks about it, when FTJ goes, its an issue to some pipo, what is the different – former and present. Mind u Chuchu will one day be former. To chuchu the Zedian hospitals are rubbish (fishala) he cant even step in there, they stink like hell. Infact the monies which chiluba allegedly to have stole went to bail Chuchu from Galedou saga and compagigning for his 2001 elections which he stole from Mazoka (MHSRI).
#74, then FTJ is a pathological offender. How can he steal money just to bail out his friend LPM? As if thats not enough, steals money to campaign for him and then steals Mazoka victory.
he must be ashamed
gEadu0 comment4 ,
If you have to do it, you might as well do it right.
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I haven?t checked in here for some time since I thought it was getting boring, but the last few posts are great quality so I guess I will add you back to my everyday bloglist. You deserve it my friend :)