Chief Government Spokesperson, Mike Mulongoti, has dismissed First Republican President Kenneth Kaunda’s assertion that there is a stand-off between government and the civil society over the ongoing Constitution making process.
“Government will take this opportunity to tell the former president that that it is
not true that there is a stand off between government and the civil society over the
process in which the majority wants a National Constitutional Conference to adopt
the new Constitution,” read part of Mr. Mulongoti said.
Mr. Mulongoti has since informed Dr. Kaunda that the process, which saw the
establishment of a National Constitutional Conference, is supported by most civil
society organisations and majority Zambians.
Mr. Mulongoti, who is also information and broadcasting services minister, told
ZANIS in a statement that government is ready to meet Dr. Kaunda with the view of
getting his opinion on the ongoing constitution making process debate and help him
understand the process that led to establishment of the national constitution
conference Bill, which is currently in Parliament.
“Government is ready to meet Dr. Kennth Kaunda, former republican president, to hear
his views on the ongoing debate on the Constitution making process in the country
and help him understand the process that led to the national constitutional
conference Bill now in Parliament,” Mr. Mulongoti said
He, however, explained that the process of establishing national constitutional
conference is a consequency of dialogue involving government and other stakeholders.
He added that the outcome was a compromise between a Constituent Assembly, with
legally binding powers as proposed by the Constitution Review Commission, CRC, and
the publication of government White paper under the Inquiries Act.
He named the Citizen’s Forum, Foundation for Democratic Process (FODEP), Evangelical
Fellowship of Zambia (EFZ) Council of Churches in Zambia (CCF), Oasis Forum, the Law
Association of Zambia (LAZ), Transparency International Zambia (TIZ) and the Zambia
Episcopal Conference (ZEP) as having made submittions to the Parliamentary Committee
on Lega Affairs over the process.
“It can not be true therefore, that there is a stand-off when many civil societies
have come forward to submit to the parlkiamentary committee on legal affairs. These
include the Citisens Forum, Foundation for Democratic Process, Evangelical
Fellowship of Zambia, Council of Churches in Zambia, Oasis Forum, The Law
Association of Zambia, Transparency International Zambia, Zambia Episcopal
Conference and Saccord,” He said.
He said the Bill can not therefore be withdrawn, to appease a few individuals
opposed to the process.
“Many consultations have been taken place resulting in the ZCID roadmap and the
submissions to the parliamentary committee opn legal affairs. The Bill can not,
therefore, be withdrawn to appease a few people who wish to things to go their way
and so precipitate a stand-off,” Mr. Mulongoti added.
The so called stand-off only exists in the heads of some blind PF cadres cowardly masquerading as members of the so called Oasis Forum a supposedly civil society grouping unskillfully turned into their political front. The so called stand-off is an imaginary one by those alien to democracy but traditionally fantasized to count on battles of imaginations.
Sincerely dig deeper on the so called Edith Matale the prime beneficiary of the 1992-2001 slash fund and arch protester of the anti-Grafti drive. Look at Mwewa Mwene, a desperate economic traitor with full PF patronage, life time failure and of obscure achievements. Look at Mususu like Matale, another failure barely surviving on charity funds meant for the needy. He has failed to provide leadership in his stagnant Chilenge small church but busy dressing himself with useless tittles from arranged ordinations.
In short, they are a legion of disillusioned but harmless compromised dreamers of political assignments. In all their self confusion they are hoping to immorally earn some breadcrumbs over the blood of peaceful and democratically independent thinking Zambians. Unwittingly they have been ruining themselves at the behest of their political liners pumping them the fantasy they signed to stomach.
The only thing they fear is fear itself and evidently this is now exhibited by the remarks ci Mike Mulongoti uttered with a view of shifting blame on innocent pipo and resort to all tactics of buying time over the process in which the majority wants a National Constitutional Conference to adopt the new Constitution. KK has the rights to discern the progress on NCC rather than being fed with denigration story. It really sad for posting #1 to be enslaved in such fear that has yielding him hallucination and perpetual recycles of chipumputu plus ingulu. The best #1 can do is to see ci Pragmatist yicakashika amenso kumulandu wa organic dobo so that he can under go ifyakuyinatwila … ala ka Pragmatist ka lonshi bad elo kapwa abantu. Any way I do salute what PF stands for and the noble course it has taken in politics.
Fulunyemba we ka Jomba (2) musamba pasate ikakule kubusha,
What do you know about democracy and Good Governance besides inhaling that smocking chimney puffing through the rotten teeth of your so called leader? You have no shame of even mentioning pride over things your thugs club has record of detest from your leaders’ marrows.
What has your mad leader done to the Zambian constitutionalism and democracy in his 43 years of opportunistic wasted political years, for Zambians to learn from? All he did which he has now conferred on you is singing and dancing for leaders. KK a good man was destroyed by his demon of opportunism ever since he crafted the blasphemous “kumu lesa panshi ni KKâ€which the old man resisted as mere flattery of an opportunist.
When he lost hope of landing the UNIP Presidency that is when he went before LPM at the kabwata rally where he publicly undressed his UNIP outfits no mushipi to join MMD. There and then he started the idolatry on Chiluba until he offered his soul to matchet any perceived opposition to the third term. Realizing another denied opportunity as it were in UNIP, he went beseck mobilizing all you thugs with hope of pressing on with your Genecide vision against Zambians of sound judgment.
All he has done for you is empowering you with useless pangas and insults against the unwavering pro-democracy Zambians.
Could you go to the convention in 2008 to usher in Democracy and bring sober people into the fold of your circus party? Surely 7 years of allergy to elections is diabolically tyrannical? Your current thuggerly has no future under the sun but internal structural change, change, change and change.
Other than churning insults,I doubt if 2 has the capacity to understand, let alone to address the concerns in 3.
#2 Jose
As I have always stated, you are the epitome of the thugs, rogues, skanks, thieves, louts, female matrimonial rejects and criminally insane Supplicants of Micheal Sata and PF.He has no ability to peacefully and meaningfully contribute to serious national issues. He is always looking for cheap shallow populist causes to try and from which he tries to gain cheap political mileage.
What ever he has achieved it is tthrough sheer grit and thuggery. Instead of having grey matter in his brain he seems to have more grey on his teeth and hair.
Shame!!!
#3 Ka Veteran
That foam that was coming from your corner of your mouth signifies first stage of chipumputu, endless and deep rooted fear. Yes fear of unknown that the hour has come to seal up all sources of your daily, weekly and monthly bootlicking as a source of income and that homework has left you in awkward position of finding the right puzzle piece hence, you resort to throwing punches in memory recall just in case they land on someone to restrain and pump sense into your senseless and folly spheres of your brain full of nothing but vacuum. Iwe ka veteran tawayishiba ati ba Sata nibacibomba milimo te? He was the last man to join MMD publicly while he was destroying and divulging UNIP strategies to MMD. You, ka veteran do you know politics? Go kuli ba Sata and get some tutorials.
#4 Hey
Kasambe plz, ulunuka akabuku no lukumpa
my understanding of things in Zambia, is everyone seem not agree with political leadership of LPM, and his mis-leading administration, dispite the fact that zambians are not on the side the goverment, we still allow them to oppress the masses, there are a bach of liars.How are they fighting corraption when they, themsevles are corrupt beyond measureable doubt. Their MMD leadership, is full such.
#5 Citizen
Bushe ba Sata ngawabafumya mu stigeni ya Zed politics, who will monitor and control the endless convulsion episodes of Chuchu? Atleast, Chuchu alashipikisha chipumputu ngayamwikata ukuyikoselesha. Ka citizen mwaice be sensible not ifyakusata kwati lishilu lyakumwando.
#5 Citizen
Bushe ba Sata ngawabafumya mu stigeni ya Zed politics, who will monitor and control the endless convulsion episodes of Chuchu’s sickness? Atleast, Chuchu alashipikisha chipumputu ngayamwikata ukuyikoselesha coz of ba Sata. Ka citizen mwaice be sensible not ifyakusata kwati lishilu lyakumwando.
Folks in #3,4 & 5,
Bravo for your magnanimity. You have nailed it straight on the cranium. I have no additions in breaking him down but some counsel for our young brother Joze desperately needs. Certainly no one could accuse him of being smart but needful of our wisdom.
Mwaiche wandi Joze,
It is your time for some self introspection. I know you insult me from all angles as a measure of your happiness despite my deafening silence. But hey, I’m still your big brother with the same accommodating heart and will maintain an open door policy to my new oval office a stone throw away come 2008.I know you have been indoctrinated in some hopeless fantasy fed by some Greedy opportunists unconcerned of your unbridled ignorance and its long term consequences.
But I’m still of the view that your problems aren’t insurmountable but choices. Sata has outlived his usefulness. Even the dirtiest politician will never look to him for the bruising skills he used in the past as his capital to get overwhelming jobs.
Your unchallenged lampooning of President Mwanawasa over his unfortunate accident I have sufficiently observed speaks volumes of your mental status. No normal person would turn the misfortune of that dark fateful Tuesday morning LPM suffered whilst on National duty in an issue of gloating. Doing so is a curse that will never serve you any good in your life time.
Accidents of that magnitude are not a choice and to survive is testimony that God has not done with the victim yet. Accidents, like bullets don’t choose targets and mostly you cannot evade them. If LPM then under detailed security sweeping everywhere could get it that way, you could probably get the worst if not a summary one. There is nothing peculiar about man but the Greater Grace takes us all in the next day. Political allegiance should not supplant the human soul for the animalism you seem to be accommodating in your behavior.
For this reason, I feel its time our believing saints were called upon to engage in some intensive Spiritual Warfare Prayers to help you get back to the basics with the lost first love. These prayers must involve mentioning your name to God atleast 3 times in a day. We should pray that you
find the person god meant you to be and discover your real and practical destiny instead of the thuggerly one you are on!
…..ewe Joze,
You have emotionally debilitating condition generating you some misplaced political views. Such are: your unresolved ignorance, self-delusion, a negative self-perception that you cannot reform, and unhealthy cultural influences (dagga smocking, watching indecent movies in solitary rooms after citing the so called Rufag 5 times a day while facing and bending to Mecca, etc.).
It’s time for you to have CURSE BREAKING ENCOUNTER with God following all signs of insanity you have shown up here insulting anyone that has divergent views to your Sata camp. I have ignored you every time you have accused and provoked me not as a sign of weakness but the disparity in our individual status, platforms and background. You are too weak, vulnerable, young and unprepared to take me on any platform you could think about but insults.
#2 BA JOSE BAKULU BAKITO, i would like to agree with you on aspect. Much as i wouldnt fancy Sata being our President, the man is unrivalled as far as keeping Chuchu and clowns alert. Just imagine if all we had were the sleepy HH, the-now-you-see-me-now-you-dont Miyanda, shameless BY, slippery Nevers and deluded Ngondo, it was going to be field day for Levy and the hyenas.
Pragmatist(11), your command of the English language will be regarded as legendary one day !!I agree with your sentiments of compassion over LPM’s accident.You can never wish anything so traumatic on another human being!!
It is unfortunate the unsuitability of Cobra for Plot 1 is going to kill PF as we get closer to the next election.When will we learn that leadership is never a one man crusade!! By the time the PF members realise it, the opportunity to govern will have passed them by because the average Zambian doesn’t trust any politician falling into the following categories to get into Plot1
1. smooth talking
2. poor
3. brash,arrogant and confrontational
4. spineless and a political prostitute
this summizes most of the contenders we have out there at the moment.Anybody without the above attributes stands a better chance at PLOT 1 than Cobra !!!
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#3 Veteran i hope you are felling better now. It only shows how short sited you Zambians are. Its KK and his vigilantees who used to whipe you when lining up for esentials at ZCBC. Its the same KK who did not allow freedom of speech. You couldnt sit with your brothers and sisters to talk about politics under kk regime. KK only brings sad memories. He had 27 years to fix the constitution, what did he do. He created a kingdon out of a republic. He is the most evil president Zambia will ever have. If you wana talk and criticise Sata fine. But dont hero worship a tyrant(KK).Ka Citizen..Sata may not have PHDs but he is a sucess story. He is the most self educated person Zambia has at the moment. his command of english and just understanding of national and international issues is impecable. You cant even match him to those with degrees. Pragmatist or shall i say ngugi go write a book. this is a blog you write in plain vania english so that myself and EASY can understand you.
Ba Sage(15),an invoice in retrospect has to be prepared and passed on to the Chiengi Wizard who without those licenses, was able to use all those services listed in your submission !! Another case of plunder…..Judge Smith must be recalled for this one !!
#17 pundit… You dont need a license to use a VoIP or satellite phone.However, you need a license to provision the VoIP or satellite phone. You feel me?
SMALL SCALE MINERS AIDED
President Mwanawasa says government will not allow Small Scale Miners to remain in poverty while foreigners take away their wealth.Mr. Mwanawasa said the government will help small scale miners add value to their gemstones.
He was speaking on arrival at Ndola International airport, Tuesday.Mr. Mwanawasa said setting up a Gemstone and Lapidary Training Centre will help small scale miners.He said it was sad to see miners selling their gemstones at a fraction of their true value because they had no added value.
Mr. Mwanawasa urged Zambians to make full use of the lapidary centre and realize the true value of their stones.The president also warned against letting foreigners take over the lapidary centre.
Ba Sage(16), first of all, KK’s mandate was never to “fix” the constitution.Second of all, alot was done in his name so not all terrible things of his regime are his fault.Thirdly, KK and UNIP ruled the country in line with the fashion of the day.It is like calling pipo who had an afro in the 70’s as foolish!!We all recognise the failings of UNIP and KK but we should in the same breath thank them for some of the things they did achieve.
On Cobra…..i agree he has above average intelligence.The premier league has Mourinho as the “special one”..Zambian politics has M.C.Sata !!!!Remembering him on ZNBC defending FTJ’s third term attempt was icing on the cake!!Cobra was good to have in the system and could still be…but i’m not convinced he would be an ideal leader in the new political dispensation.I think his era is up and Plot 1 will always be pipedream for him and his party for so long as he heads it.
Saga (16),
Unshackle yourself from that state of self insulation denying you some credible comparative skills of given personalities. Certainly I have no interest to waste my time on private citizens who have long finished their public office race. It is retrogressive to waste any valuable time and the opportunity on retirees considering that I’m a forward looking person.
Instead I need it to scan through prospective leaders. To repeat myself, I’m a forward looking character as regards the vision of my country. Comparing the Confucius, divisive, pigheaded hateful tribalist Sata to KK the unifier and statesman is nothing but proof of an acrimoniously dysfunctional thinking prevalent among those insulated from history. You have really stunned me with the evidence of being a victim of the political mumbo-jumbos fantasy.
Ba Veteran…There is only one point here you have mentioned worth looking @. We need a generation change at plot 1 and politics as a whole. On KK no apologies the man turned Zambia into a concentration camp. You cant equate that to someone having afro in the 70s. He was a tyrant period. yes we recognise that he was one of the many fore fathers who got us political independence. We thank him for that. What do you mean it wasnt his mandate to fix the constitution? Its every presidents job to keep the documa fresh. Thats why they say a constitution is dynamic, because it keeps changing according to time.KK today wants to chanpion the course of dialogue. In his era all the oasis pips would be in jail. Let KK just sit and enjoy his retirement. He has no credibility when it comes to issues of democrasy. He is a tyrant by nature.In bemba we say Uwenda na ngo. Look at his friends Saddam etc.
# 10 Iwe ka Pragmatist
Let the sign of love or hate in your mind, or generosity or avarice in your hands. How could you say “Bravo†to the insults and flip flop to intensive prayers. Which prayers? Prayers of Antichrist which are obviously from fanatic sect of literal deistic worship to the monography of the atheistic that are contrary to “do unto others as they do unto youâ€. I just you figured as a wicked chap and lost soul like the troubled sea when it cannot rest and whose water cast up mire and dirt. In my postings nowhere did I mention Levy’s accident at all on which you went on dwelling on and on, of which justified my earlier points that the organic dagga you smoke makes you have double vision and hallucinating in the world of fantasy and wonderland. Plz know that chipumputu yakwa chuchu was not caused by an accident but from pressure by taking up job which is too heavy for him.
# 10 Iwe ka Pragmatist
Let the sign of love or hate in your mind, or generosity or avarice in your hands. How could you say “Bravo†to the insults and flip flop to intensive prayers. Which prayers? Prayers of Antichrist which are obviously from fanatic sect of literal deistic worship to the monography of the atheistic that are contrary to “do unto others as they do unto youâ€. I just figured out that you a wicked chap and lost soul like the troubled sea when it cannot rest and whose water cast up mire and dirt.
In my postings nowhere did I mention Levy’s accident at all on which you went on dwelling on and on, justifying my earlier points that the organic dagga you smoke makes you have double vision and hallucinating in the world of fantasy and wonderland. Plz know that chipumputu yakwa chuchu was not caused by an accident but from pressure by taking up job which is too heavy for him.
Lusaka, August 21, ZANIS – Speaker of the National Assembly Amusa Mwanamwambwa today seriously reprimanded Nkana Patriotic Front (PF) Member of Parliament Mwenya Musenge for breaching parliamentary etiquette and privileges through his unparliamentary behavior at the National Assembly Motel in January this year. The Speaker has also severely warned Members of Parliament to desist from using riddles, innuendoes and insinuations during debates in the house as they risk being misunderstood. Mr. Mwenya’s admonishment by the speaker follows a report by the committee on privileges and absences for threatening violence on Namwala Member of Parliament Robby Chizyuka on January 18, this year. Mr. Mwenya allegedly physically assorted Major Chizyuka and poured a glass of alcohol on him at the National Assembly Motel on the material day after accusing him of calling Patriotic Front leader Micheal Sata a ‘Dog and that Mr. Sata was a ‘mad person’.
#21 chinwa achebe…. Your friend Ngugi has gone to write a book. Forgive me and EASY in USA we dont use amabomba, we are finding it difficult to follow your way of writting. Can you scale down to Zanglish?
Thanks a million times to those that contribute meaniful and helpful insights thru this blog / surely this is not an avenue for insulting each other or calling each other names,remember treat others as you would want to be treated. overcome evil with love/ love never fails.
May the love of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
#22 SAGE, mmmmmm I didnt know Saddam and Sata were friends. That aside, Sata is a human being and prone to err like all of us, however, the gentleman has led an eventful life thus far. If we had 10 satas in the opposition(not in government of course), Zambia was going to be one notch better. I give him the credit he deserves.
Mala – Msana.. I was refering to KK. KK was Saddam’s best friend.
Equinox contracts Ausenco to manage uranium resources
By Kabanda Chulu
Tuesday August 21, 2007
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EQUINOX Minerals has contracted Ausenco Limited to manage and implement the Uranium Feasibility Study (UFS) on the uranium resources that occur within the Lumwana Copper project in North Western Zambia.
Initially, Equinox completed a Bankable Feasibility Study (BSF) in 2003 at Lumwana, which included work on the extraction of the Uranium mineralisation to produce uranium oxide (yellowcake).
Equinox president and chief executive officer Craig Williams yesterday stated that Ausenco Limited has been engaged to carry out a four-phased programme designed for the UFS.
“Our first objective is to review the 2003 BFS uranium study including resources, metallurgy and process plant design and conduct a further metallurgical test work that will include the designing of a processing plant and infrastructure to produce yellowcake on site,†Williams stated. “And an infill drilling programme would be conducted as part of the UFS to facilitate mine design and develop proven and probable reserves.â€
He stated that the positive long-term outlook for uranium has the potential to enhance the economics of the Lumwana Project if a uranium by-product is economically viable.
“The Company is evaluating this potential and considering alternatives for realising any uranium development option. This Uranium Feasibility Study will however not impact on Equinox’s current construction schedule for the commissioning of the Lumwana Copper Project in the second quarter of 2008,†stated Williams.
The Lumwana Uranium Resources lies within the Malundwe and Chimiwungo copper deposits and occurs as discrete uranium-enriched zones that will be separately mined during the copper mining operation.
Lumwana Uranium Mineral Resources have been estimated to be at 9.5 million tonnes and is consistent with international requirements.
Currently, Ausenco Limited, in a joint venture with Bateman Engineering, is engaged for the construction contract on the Lumwana copper project.
And in preparation to execute this new contract, Ausenco has assembled a team with considerable uranium expertise that would work in parallel with their construction team already on-site at Lumwana
Ka Pragmatist na chi Veteran stop insulting ba Joze,when are you going to start bringing your forex back to Zambia to mine URANIUM, ELO Neyi play tulecita na BaJoze’Sheli’ tukabike mucisungu, kabili eko washala akashiki ku citundu ca cisungu.
#30 All our resources are now in the hands of foreigners elo iwe mu diaspora tawakwata na Katemba?Is this fair Ka Pragmatist?Leka icimpwena come back to invest.
#24 BaJoze kalebeniko fye aka ka Pragmatist kalevoca pali God and yet he belongs to that cult’Moonies’-Universal Peace Federation.but tufwile twakabomfya mukupilibula ‘Sheli’ mu cisungu,nangu ‘Musonda alelya nabakalamba’ muli nkwashi part II, icimpapisako fye apali Ka Pragfimomo ninshi naka Veteran epokali, mwaice Easy cita verify ama IP bushe bamobene aba ba mambala?
Mwaiche Kuku,
I don’t need to go into the mining business just because there is a boom there. That is impulsiveness that has been failing you at worst. Good businessman ship and ingenuity call for planning.
My profession is a lucrative industry in the development of countries which Zambia country is already benefiting from. You give me time you will see how many flaws the current AG reporting will be there atleast by the year ending 2009. I don’t need kantemba but expanding my current lines of interests.
It would be very immoral of me to enter in the tuntemba business line knowing very well that your types earn a living from that. The haves should not enter every small business interest ideal for the under privileged to survive on.
Just humble yourself and visit me come 2008 I could slaughter you a cow or Goat from my Lusaka West and Chisamba (landless Corner) Farms. Ask Peter Machungwa and Dan Pule who are my immediate Neighbors in Lusaka west or UPND’s Jack Mwimbu in Chisamba. Ask them who owns the biggest farms in their neighborhoods and what machineries, farm products and livestock. Put all your efforts together and see if you will manage to come up with a single pair of either a John Deere or Massey Ferguson farm machine.
That will educate you a lot that in times of economic crisis as it where in Zambia then or as it is now in Zimbabwe, smart futuristic entrepreneurs start their walk to unparalleled economic freedom that will stun you should you dig deeper. Houses were cheap; farms were being given up cheaply while machines became monuments in farms. Go ask I Sonny Mulenga who bought the many properties he was selling and almost bought him out at his Chinama Hotel. Resource mobilization is a key in challenging times. That is exactly what those foreigners are doing in Zambia. But you with your Katemba think you will be any better than where you are if you pursue that isolationist strategy. Good lucky to you as time teaches in whose hands the economic pendulum will rest.
#33 Yangu icintu ubukulu, awe kanshi Ka Prag fimomo walibomba mwandi nakupela umuchinshi, naifwe na BaJoze epapela amaka nipa tuntemba so mwilatusalula ba Pragfimomo at the end of it all we are part of the real GDP tefyo.BaJoze ipusheni Peter Machungwa umwinamupalamano wabo ala twaishiba ukwashita inkuma ne nenama shilya Abraham mu bible balepela ilambo.Ala aka Kamuntu ka prag fimofimo kalisungapo,nomba kabelenga fye Oxford/chambers dictionary.Alonomba afwilishako umwaice obe SAGE uko ku USA alefwaya ukuba shimakwebo ingawebo.Wamona ifwe tuli baKaponya any idea is an opportunity for us not a threat, that is why we cant go beyond Masala and Kulima Tower.Nomba Prag fimomo are you supporting these foreigners milking our country when learned people like you are there to support diversfication? Since you are Chisamba go into honey production covering Kabwe to Masangano,since Mwekera seems to have gone to sleep.BaJoze dont sleep wake up.
#33 iyo ulamponta kwati ni Judas Esacariot, nasekasana iyi paragraph and I quote “Put all your efforts together and see if you will manage to come up with a single pair of either a John Deere or Massey Ferguson farm machine.” Ala ifwe tulima nenkasu ingayapickinga economy limbi tukacita apply for free ox drawn ploughs from MMCI kabili state house fund ilipa K18bn this year.Nomba mune finshi ulima? winter maize of tobbacco?
KuKu.. nomba prag fimo fimo (Ngugi) nga alise to that extent ninshi alechita mu diaspora? ifwe tulefwaya abakubomba nabo limbi wanu day kuti twaba ko nga ngugi. Anyway nga chachine ninshi wali chofa. Chapi we ulefwaya amabala landa na ngugi. Umukalamba ali chofa mu mabala.#33 mudala Ngugi thanks for scalling down you ifisungu. Although i’m struggling to get what you are saying but its a step forwad
#36 SAGE alibomba kale cimo na Bill Gates, he just eats on the ROCE(return on capital employed that is why ajoba fye Oxford Dictionary pakuti ingafukumuna icisungu acila na mama ElizabethII ku Buckingham Palace,Nomba ati tusanshe ingakuti twashita John deere, naumona imiponto?Twalifilwa ukushita Ox plough kuti twashita John Deere? Chapi starting point yamoneka but more details from BaJOze ingababwela ku Lusaka West ino inshita balepanga Tea but mailo bali off.So data ni pa Friday
SAGE,
About 85% of wealth is inherited or a result of one privileged member of the family who push it over to the siblings. Some siblings are sent in the Diapora to further up their studies before returning. Do you know that most of KK’s Grand Children are in California and Michigan? Chuchu’s son among cowboys, late Mazoka’s siblings in Atlanta, Former CJ Silungwe in the Gulf Coast states and Pule’s Florida? Those are reach Zambians yet they have sent their families in the Diaspora. Most them when they are done, they return home with opportunities waiting for them. That is the inequality of this world. We have extremely rich and poor people with a few in the middle. Unless we work it out and sacrifice the temporal Diaspora comfort, we risk leaving it all in the hands of the same few returning their siblings from studies overseas.
#38 FACT… If my memory serves me well Uyu Ngugi at one point mentioned that he used to teach at the same school with chipimo Sr in eastern province. You are talking about an old man here. He is the one who was halucinating that Elias Chipimo is a mad tribalist. We know there are rich kids of Z arround but we dont care steto alinganya umwana nanyina.Elyo ese muku ponta ati teti tushite John Deere.Well nga yalipassa that is fine buti teti ulesusha umunibe pantu akwata akantemba.Like KUKU said ajoba Oxford abikapo na Websters everyday. teti wise pa blog epo walafunya colonial english. In todays life English is a means for communication era ya mabomba yalipwa kale.
#38 your assertions are right but marjority of those whose kids are in diaspora their parents wealth in most cases is in shambles and marjority of those kids managed to secure themselves employment.I quote again from Ka Pragfimomo to support FACTS assertion “It would be very immoral of me to enter in the tuntemba business line knowing very well that your types earn a living from that. The haves should not enter every small business interest ideal for the under privileged to survive on.” end of Quote.
#39 from the above quoteand having done alot of psychology, pragfimomo either inherited this wealth or it could be a family business.You are right he is theone who told us that they were in the same class with the late Kafumukache and Chipimo i.e as a teacher then he migrated and studied Economics and now is in money market,limbi ma bonuses yama city gurus yashita ama fwamu aya,Lesa apela umwapusana, ifwe na BaJoze tutemba,SAGE na Easy ma fiber,Kayata -stock broker kwati ni pragfimofimo
FACT (38),
Not only those Felix Mutati has his in New Jersey, VJ in Michigan, North Carolina and Texas, Kavindele in Boston, the Lewanikas in Mississippi,Sata’s immediate siblings in Luasiana, Bob Sichinga and Gray Zulu’s in Atlanta Georgia. All this shit is happening when by the same people who during the day are preaching the zambian cause in the night sending their siblings for studies in the Diaspora instead of our Universities. later on they come to take up lucrative jobs we don’t access. The way to go is returning back so that we could compete them otherwise, power and wealth will be a preserve of the same people already sweeping up all opportunities to themselves.
#41 Iwe wabula ishina, ba mwana Gray Zulu ninshi balitumpa sana, bawishi balekwela ama minibus from Makeni to town ba shetani bali mu comfort zone? Kavindele had to bail him out, what are shame,tabapusene na chuchu uwalenegele abafyashi ukuba mubusanso bwapamusebo ,nabatushe micibote.
Success always leaves clues.Being a genius is the ability to create wealth out of nothing.Ukwima ZED nechola elowabwelako nomuchanga uwingisana.INSHIMBI NI NSIMBI.
#33 Mwaice Pragmatist uletipo shani pama subprime
mortgages? Bushe iwe iyobe mortgage ulalipila?Considering the severity of the credit crunch and the anxiety that’s gripped world financial markets, it’s time we all understand precisely who owns what, and how much.
Fortunately, Wachovia Bank’s Jay Bryson just published a special commentary that spells out exactly where the greatest subprime mortgage exposure exists.
Eurozone Exposure
According to Bryson, residents of the 13 nations in the eurozone (the geographical and economic area where European Union countries have adopted the euro) own about $280 billion in U.S. mortgage debt.
KUKU..Ngugi is not in the stock amrkets. Icisungu alemba tapali uwinga munfwa kuno ku steto. He we speak to communicate, we dont use colonial english. Not even Londoners write the way Ngugi writes.Nga twati tumwimbe limbi ali ku Katete using Ka dial up from Malawi. Ne yo ule landa po Sub prime kashimi.
The advantage of being in cash driven country like Z is that your real estate is on solid ground. Although ba mamba ama yanda naya kwela.
#45 bushe naubelenga story yakwa bwino ,mona quote from#33″My profession is a lucrative industry in the development of countries which Zambia country is already benefiting from. You give me time you will see how many flaws the current AG reporting will be there atleast by the year ending 2009″ end of Quote, is he multi talented-english,primary school teacher, law, and economics?
Iam still laughing at your comment, how dare you undress our only ‘Bill Gates’ of zambia?When I was away I read somewhere where he was willing to donate $500 , has done so?Ka Pragfimomo honour your pleadge if you have not done so,I made my contribution so please do likewise
#46 Uyu ngugi is not real first he told us that he was with Chipimo as a teacher. If that is true he must be in his 70s. That means he is in diaspora in his 70s, When does he retire? In all fireness Ngugi can you tell us what you do qualifications and your age. Can you also clarify this statement ″My profession is a lucrative industry in the development of countries which Zambia country is already benefiting from. You give me time you will see how many flaws the current AG reporting will be there atleast by the year ending 2009″
#46.KUKU MUKWAI.When someone stops talking about how wealthy they are,that`s a simple clue that they`ve finally got the real stepends.Otherwise,bamwisho isn`t even known by IRS as an enterprenuer.Otherwise,nibatamanga chabe(per hr) mu DISPORA.
KUKU uyu Ngugi nga akwata ama John Deere na ma Mercey frgi and the 2 biggest farms in Chisamba kuti ala chita pledge $500.00 ninshi teti ale landila pama pini nangu ama mitas.
bye guys system ya crasha. Naisa mbombe ko naba america. see ya later.
#48 Chapi nomba bushe kuti walailumba icakula ifi ingatefyo waba? Uyu muntu pragfimomo alisungapo , ingabufi lwakwe ulo , ifwe tuli mu temba taumwene efyo apontele, him he belongs to the “haves” ifwe na BaJoze we belong to the underpriviledged,so Chapi tampa ukusunga isha John Deere pantu ukesalima nolukasu lwaba mwachusa ba ku Tanzania , a shovel turned a hoe.
#33 Pragfimomo its been wonderful knowing you,nakulakupela umucinshi nomba ulelepila mortgage kuti waisa nsungako mu diaspora inganalusa ama elections ya 2011 kabili ninshi working capital yaka ntemba nayipwa.
SAGE and Chapi nice having laughed off pa blog for a while katwishi uyu mwaice Easy eko ali lelo?Bushe nabamukomena abakashi nangu Laptop nabeba ku Cancun after Hurricane Dean?
Ka pragfimomo no hard shoulders uleposapo ukafwa na BP nesho indalama wakwatisha nama water bed ayo ulalamo mwaice, we shall link up my dear.you made my nite nayamukutusha I have 3hrs before I wake up ukuya kuma order, kabili impepo nayipwa ulukungu fye ni murder.
Kuku,
I hope in good spirit I have provoked you and SAGA unto some good works instead of your usual rhetoric and diatribes like the visionless mwaiche Joze. Opportunities are everywhere and for everyone. But understanding seasons is another thing. Never forget that visionless rhetoric and sublevel actions are diametrically opposed. Though I have not even come with a political jacket here ever since, it is necessary to remind you that mocking President Mwanawasa be it over effects of his accident or loss of Mama Mokola will never be helpful in your dreams. That speaks millions about your character.
Back to our discourse today, what I have been telling you is stop jumping for everything you hear is booming. Learn to partner your tuntembas among your closest peers and siblings one day you could be our Bill Gates. Without regrets I have done my calculus right and not relenting for some exponential growth in my vision.
Surely, the Insults you have been preoccupied with on behalf of ba Sata will lamentably fail you.
About my profession, indeed it is in a lucrative industry where all things being equal, there would be no justifiable reason to fail. Competitively Private businesses and Government institutions offer good long term contracts everywhere to serious professionals in the act. It is time to start taking some opportunities from foreigners. In my potentially expanding undertakings have friends lined up to share overwhelming responsibilities. So far the fraud must be exposed. Many things have to be identified, corrected and prevented along the way as the nation manages its own resources. Good luck in all your undertaking.
Kuku,
Beware of this Pragmatic Madala he could easily brainwash you right here. The Old man is a sleek politician with a habit of concealing his true political colors. But he comes out in his political combat, he turns ruthless and of damaging rhetoric. Have you the tendency to walk a fine non active political line? Observe whenever he’s attached at a personal level, he goes mute but later remarks with some soft but bruising words. I also believe we have an orthodox world of two societies the haves and have-nots. While we struggle so much the have-not end up with morsel
Correction!!!!!
Kuku,
Beware of this Pragmatic Madala he could easily brainwash you right here. The Old man is a sleek politician with a habit of concealing his true political colors. But when comes out in his political combat, he turns ruthless and of damaging rhetoric. Have you noticed his tendency to walk a fine of non active political interest? Observe whenever he’s attached at a personal level, he goes mute but later remarks with some soft but bruising words. I also believe we have an orthodox world of two societies the haves and have-nots. While we struggle so much the have-not end up with morsel. It’s time to close the gap.
Now that you have all gilded your lillies, let us have some contributions on the present stage of the constitution making proccess. Except for Joseblina all of you have high enough IQ for us common citizens to learn from.
See how smooth motions are proceeding without those PF thugs
PARLEY PASSES NCC BILL
PARLIAMENT yesterday overwhelmingly passed the National Constitutional Conference (NCC) Bill with support from opposition members except for the Patriotic Front.
The Bill that goes to committee stage today, was supported by ministers and MMD back-benchers, the United Party for National Development (UPND), United Liberal Party (ULP) and an independent MP.
But PF members wanted the Bill deferred to allow for more consultations. Supporters of the Bill said adequate consultations had already taken place.
and that people were in a hurry to see a new constitution enacted.
Chasefu MP, Chifumu Banda (FDD), said the NCC Bill was progressive and therefore he did not see any reason why it should be delayed especially that Minister of Justice, George Kunda, had made most of the amendments following submissions from stakeholders.
“The Bill is a step in the right direction because the NCC will debate recommendations contained in the Mung’omba Constitution Review Commission report,†Mr Banda said.
He advised MPs against engaging in irrelevant debate on matters of constitution making. He urged them to exercise maturity as political leaders who represented people.
Luena MP, Charles Milupi (independent), said for a long time, Zambians had yearned for a good constitution and because amendments had already been made to the NCC Bill, there should be no need to waste people’s time any further.
Mr Milupi said what was good about the NNC Bill was that it addressed specific contents of the current constitution and not the process it would take to enact a new one.
Livingstone MP, Sakwiba Sikota (ULP), said the Bill should not be delayed just because some political parties had solemnly agreed to abide by what certain civil society groupings wanted.
But Lusaka Central MP, Guy Scott (PF), said the Bill was only going to be legitimate if it had the blessings of majority stakeholders who included those from the civil society.
Dr Scot suggested that the Bill be deferred so that Mr Kunda could widely consult.
Kasama MP, Dr Savour Chishimba (PF), said the Bill should be deferred to allow for more consultations.
Zambezi West MP, Charles Kakoma (UPND), said his party wanted to see a new constitution before the 2011 general elections but that President Mwanawasa should not be given powers to dissolve the NCC at a time of his choice.
But Mbabala MP, Emmanuel Hachipuka (UPND), said in every game, there should be a captain and Zambians entrusted that in President Mwanawasa as head of state and therefore should retain such powers to avoid loss of funds through allowances due to unnecessary prolonging of the NCC sittings.
Chienge MP, Katele Kalumba (MMD), said there were no stakeholders who were left out in the consultation process and urged MPs to be therapists by helping people to get out of the frustrations of rage and tension created by politicians over a long period.
Dr Kalumba said it was impossible for the Bill to contain 100 per cent views from everybody because this was against the principles of politics in a democratic society.
Minister of Local Government and Housing, Silvia Masebo, said there was no need to defer the Bill because most of the views from civil society like the Oasis Forum and the PF itself had been included in the amendment process.
And Vice-President, Rupiah Banda, in winding up the debate, assured all MPs and other stakeholders that their views would continue to be looked into even at the national conference stage.
And Mr Kunda circulated amendments to the NCC Bill, stating that Government had no intention to undermine the will of the people.
The amendments include the election of the chairperson and deputies by members of the NCC and the removal of any references to recommendations to be made to the Minister of Justice.
Mr Kunda stated that the composition of the NCC would also be adjusted to take into account some of the recommendations by the committee on legal affairs.
“As a listening Government, we wish to remedy the growing misconception that if a draft bill is submitted to my office, we will undermine the will of the people and so appropriate amendments will be made to reassure our people of the good will and intentions of the Government,†he said.
Government was responding to the recommendations of the Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) and submissions of the people that a popular body be established to adopt the constitution.
“In any case, it is now generally accepted by various stakeholders who submitted to the parliamentary committee on legal affairs that the name National Constitutional Conference could be used for the body that will adopt the constitution.
All that is required is for the body to be broadly representative,†he said.
And chairperson of the committee on legal affairs, Jack Mwiimbu, said his committee recommended, among other issues, that the NCC should have authority to add to what was recommended to the CRC.
He commended the Minister of Justice for adopting some of the recommendations by the committee.
Mr Mwiimbu implored stakeholders to cherish President Mwanawasa’s calls for dialogue on the constitution-making process.
“Constitution-making is not a partisan issue. Posterity will judge us if we fail the Zambian people,†he said.