Mr. Mwanawasa said he is concerned that his ministers are the major culprits over the ignorance about the constitution.
The President said the ignorance could be due to the fact that most of them have not taken time to acquaint themselves with the provisions of the constitution.
The president advised all cabinet and deputy ministers to fully acquaint themselves with the constitution and the Government’s position on the on-going reforms.
He said ministers who hold different views should discuss with the government and defend their positions, or resign if their position completely departs from that of government.
The President said it will not do for ministers to support the constitutional conference bill and later on change their position and denounce it.
He said them ministers should clearly come out, to avoid confusing the people.
The president said this when he swore in newly appointed Tourism Minister, Micheal Kaingu and Foreign Affairs Deputy Minister, Fashion Phiri.
ZNBC
I think Levy is right in acknowledging that some of his ministers are ignorant on the constitution making process. You can see that there is lack of tangible contributions towards the constitutional making process.
But I gues most of the ministers rushed to get posts more than they thought about what responsibilities those posts came with.
It will be good now to lift the bar for one to be a minister
Chuchu mukanua mulemoneka pink te?
Ba Chuchu just tell your ministers that you will fire any of them who will not support your stance on CC. Chuchu, you saying ministers who hold different views should discuss with the government and defend their positions, or resign if their position completely departs from that of government is on its on a threat and you are now displaying cheap political gymnastics which will entangle you in endless turmoil come 2011. Indeed the saying “don’t talk while eating†seems to be role of a day to MMD chaps who awaits directives from chuchu and ask how far they would jump.
No minister would like to loose his/her job so they will support you Chuchu even in things they do’nt understand.
Ba Jose… We are at a point break in the Zambian politics. I’m not a prophet but i say this. In the next 5 -10 years you will see presidents more and more start treating ministers as partners in governance. You will see presidents counculting people before appointing them. Appointments like Rupia Banda just takes us back to KK era. nothing wrong with RB. But how do you appoint someone with out talking to them first. In the near future you will see people turning down ministerial appointments because they where never consulted. The way it should be is that a president should have a vision, when choosing ministers he is actually looking for people to help him fulfill the vision. In this respect he should pic people he personally knows or recomended by close associates. These are people who should be secure in themselves to a point where they can give tough advise to the president and also agree to disagree if the president deviates from the vision.CTN
We saw what having insecure and bootlickers did to KK and FTJ. If FTJ surrounded himself with true objective freinds, he wouldnt be spending his retirement in court. I think is ready for people to start looking at appointments differently. People should value their principles more than the financial gain that comes with public office.
Its only politicians who can change the trend. We can force the next president to realise that he is not god. He is a public servant unto the people just like any bodya else. Ba Jose , For staters if LPM apponts as minister in the inercity ministry without consultation please say no. You can not help someone fulfil a vision without understanding the vision.
#4 & 5 The problem starts with the electorate.People in Zambia dont understand what politics is and what is the role of an MP.Until such specs are spelt out no difference will ever come through to get the right people for the right causes.Secondly,politics has been turned into a job and hence compromising on ones principles and that the appointing Authority have no room to accommodate divergent views.Look at Obama and relate him to the Zambian politics, do you think anyone from the 11m people would have understood that he has the right to present his views as and when he feels fit to air them?Chuchu has even set the political in too much reverse gear.He knows the people doing it but even him he is scared to come out and name them, these are childish threats to silence them,everyone wants to have a hand at the last payment of gratuity so no one will take that risk.Until we separate politics from job seeking shall we ever see sanity on the political front.Those are the wages of appointin
Ba mutashafilikumasaya, they have no independence and will continue to ‘Yes bwanas’ til the innocent poor person in society perishes.Its a shame to belong to a party with no morals.I totally support the statement by Shakafuswe that MMD is in reality a dead party and need serious rescustation.
Rupiah Banda’s appoint was due to great influence from Marvis Muyunda the aunt to Chuchu,Otherwise its folly to ignore other MMD members who have served the party both individually and severally.
If his ministers are inept, whose fault is it?? It’s a reflection of his misguided approach to forming govt. Did he look at any of their CV’s?? Next, did he look at the performances of the individuals in which ever field they were?? After appointing them, did he task them with what he expected of them?? If he has realised that some of them have no clue on issues of the constitution – he should be firing them, not asking them to look at the constitution, becoz it’s symptomatic of them to have failed to understand their purpose as ministers – their ministries are tasked to deliver to the country the aspirations contained in the constitution. So being ignorant, is being highly irresponsible for one at the helm of such office.
What LPM should realise, is that it’s great statemanship to accept fault, & NOT PASS THE BUCK, he should accept he & his ministers have failed us miserably, what with all the nolle prosequis & failure to convict the plunder cases that have dragged on for years!!
#8 Bauze Ngozi does Mulyata/Daka have a Cvs?
There’s very little agreement among the top legal experts in Zambia about this process. George Kunda, SC and former AG, has told Cornell University Law Professor Muna Ndulo to stop playing popularist interpretations of the constitution making process provisions. How can we expect the deputy minister of environment and colleagues to be not ignorant? Is this what it means to be the Lawyer of lawyers?
Daka holds a Masters Degree with some successful years of multi national work experience. If anything, he just returned to Zambia from a successful career under the Mwanawasa regime tenure. Mulyata holds an MA in political science but don’t know his work history. Kindly research on that. In this regime no one holds lower that a bachelors degree at full cabinet level except Ben Kabita holding two College level Diplomas one from NRDC and the other one from UK. Besides that he is a successful commercial farmer for many years.
I Think LPMs statement or threats on his carbinet is misplaced. You dont expect people who are not lawyers to understand all the legal mambo jambo in the constitution. If it was that easy , why do we need lawyers. I think LPM should have assembled a team of lawyers to represent GRZ headed by Kunda when meeting Oasis and other state holders. And then let these people put it or interprete government position in plain english to the ministers so that ministers and MPs can now communicate to their constituencies on what is happening. When i rea 278 arraested for loitering. I realised that the need for a new constitution ver urgent. Since when did taking a stroll at night become a crime? Where is the right to freedom of association and right to freedom of speech.
Pande doesn’t have a degree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just wanted to know what degrees the following have:
1. Shikapwasha (although of course we know his great service at the highest level in defence)
2. George Mpombo
3. Patricia Namugala
4. Sylvia Masebo
5. Mike Mukongoti
6. Bradford Machila
7. Gabriel Namulambe
Now lets not confuse academic attainments with a CV. An academic attainment is just one small proportion of a CV. A CV looks at one’s Experience, their Achievements, their Ambitions, Extracurricular activites e.g community service/charity, etc etc.
Gone are the days, when an academic attainment was something to write home about, there are lots of people with these qualifications either unemployed or doing jobs far removed from what the qualified in, eg degree holders driving taxis etc etc. So just becoz they have degrees doesn’t mean they are suitable to perform, indeed they may serve, but with little to show for it!
LPM is playing reverse psychology here. He is scared of his own shadow. The truth, which he knows deep down his heart is that most Ministers disagree with him on this matter and that scares him a lot because he does’t know who is with him and what those who are not with him will do next. So he is throwing stones at them so they can start coming out and speak up, then he can fire who ever speaks up.
Academic attainment is one piece of a CV but its NOT small. In addition, having people with degrees doing ‘other’ things isnt an argument not to have degrees. For most things maybe ministers dont need degrees. But in terms of the constitutional debate, you surely need a degree in law to debate intelligently. In medicine and law you wont even have any reasonable experience without a degree because they have licensure regulations in there. How far can 50 years of community service or a talent in bowling take you in understanding current economics? Dont belittle academic education.
#17 Francis, Academic attainments are simple statements to indicate your level of education, it’s what you do with that education that matters. I never intended to say people should ignore education, I meant people with degrees are just as good as every jim & jack with the same qualification. Yes, for most things, ministers don’t need their degrees, becoz their Perm Secs will do most of the jobs for them.
Coming to constitutional debate, I think you are wrong to suggest one needs a degree in law to debate intelligently – no you don’t, becoz anything can be made law any day as long as majority in parliament vote for it. A degree in law becomes a must for those writing it, those interpreting it & those enforcing it! That’s why chuchu was trying to deport someone for the satire about Muwelewele, with whom he identified – he was trying to extend the law that prohibits one from insulting the presidency to a simple satire, as there was no direct reference, the charge could not be upheld!
Academic attainment is not a small piece of the CV. There is work involved in attaining a degree and in some cases its part of work and experience. This experience prepares a person in understanding and in how to resolve various issues. Therefore, both academic and experience are very essential in one’s ability to assimilate issue at hand. Its not good to scare the ministers about their positions, but rather have workshops where they can learn about certain issues. As it has already been pointed out by #8, the people who are doing it are known. Why not speak to them?
In terms of education, this the most educated govt Zambia has ever had since 1964. More than half of the minister have degrees. its the other parts of the CVs that may be lacking
#17 & 19, I ‘m honestly not trying to belittle THE AMOUNT OF WORK & ENERGY one puts in attaining a degree, but the facts of life are that, these make only a small proportion of your CV. A CV if anything is ONE’s SELLING PIECE, so if you just list you degree or degrees/Masters/PhD’s you may not find yourself being the best candidate, ask anyone that has sat on a panel of interviewers.
I agree what you do with it is what matters. And if you can do what people with degrees are doign then you probably dont need it. Sometimes we get people with special talents but this cant be a matter of public policy for education.
At this stage we are interpreting the law and to quote you in your second para, you indicate that we need degree in law to do so. So you contradicting yourself.
In addition, i didnt understand this:
“…poeple with degrees are just as good as every jim&jack with the same qualification.”
Seems tautological, or is there some meaning you were trying to convey?
Bauze (21) now you are spinning this out of order. It depends. Experience generally gives you less risk of costly error, so jobs where this is not vital they’ll get the best graduate from university. If you are employing a CEO as a Fund manager or an Auditor General maybe they’ll look more at experience but often this assumes that the person already has the academic qualifications on which they were previously employed. But if you are employing a senior economist at BOZ, they’ll look almost exclusively look at background in training.
#22 Francis, am a bit lost, which law are we interpreting? I thought the issue at hand was the constitutional debate – so I fail to see my contradiction.
“People with degrees, are just as good as every jim & jack with the same qualification”, simply means just that – there is no hidden meaning.
#23 francis, we are talking about ministers, so your argument about Graduates doesn’t come into play.
Infact, being the best graduate doesn’t equate with being the best candidate, the best candidate, is one that has the desired qualification, produces a very good CV & Interviews well!
I think the debate is about how to adopt the changes that have been proposed in the Mungomba review commission. So the lawyers have been bickering about what role, if any,a CA vis-a-vis parliament should have under the current (1995) law. The initial argument by the MMD was that we cant have a CA because its not provided for and to change that provision, we need a referendum and all the rest of it. Then Mwanawasa changed his mind and said okay lets have a CC as a compromise to avoid a referendum. But its not over. The contents of the CC bill are still controversial and the debate is ultimately on enactment and adoption (please dont ask me what these things mean). So its largell been about interpretation of law-I guarantee its no civics.
In your last sentence, so they already have same qualification then they are degree holders whats the distinction?
In that case i agree you need more experience than academic papers.
There are sometimes one just has to laugh at the shortness of Levy’s length of memory. When he was appointing functionary illiterate people like Vera Chiluba etc to his cabinet, did he honestly think they will be able to understand the constitution and its provisions on the constitutional making process? Even at the most basic, Vera thinks Kyoto Accord is wrong, to her its supposed to be Tokyo accord, so to expect her to understand anything like constitution (a word she can hardly pronounce) is just plain unfair.
#26 Francis, “Enactment”, is making something to become law, this is done in parliament. A Constitution, is not a law, that is why it is adopted.
The problem is, chuchu & MMD want to avoid a referendum, in which everyone eligible to vote will participate in the adoption of the proposed new constitution or additions thereof.
So the alternative was a Constituent Assembly with broad representation of the populace & NOT JUST POLITICIANS!! MMD & Chuchu want to push for a CC which has majority of politicians becoz all MP’s are part, the rest are from certain representative groups & whose number doesn’t equal that of the politicians, & REMAINS SHORT OF BEING BROADLY REPRESENTATIVE. Also means the sitting govt can change clauses/proposals recommended by CRC & convince this narrow representation that this is what the zambians want.
Thus from the above, you will note, it’s not so much of interpretation, BUT ALL ABOUT THE ADOPTION PROCESS!
Number 14…!I know little about Bradford Machila? He attended church at the central SDA church in lusaka (junction burma and independence avenue roads) in the early seventies. He has lived at his father’s farm (kafue) much of his life? kind of a spoiled brat? College educated i don’t think so? Slyvia Masebo…! All i know is, she one pony with a nice set of legs that i would ride on any given day!
Forget to comment on LPM! He should thank the ingnorance of the zambian people that he holds the highest office!as most of the zambian voters follow personalities and not policies! that is why the likes of the SATA’s have followers….thanks to the ingnorance of the zambian people. That is why we have recycled policitians getting elected and yet they proved themselves useless in another party or regime! the nakatindi’s, nawakwi, sata! they prove themselves useless in their respective seats in lusaka? they go to win in their respective villages? much to be desired about the zambian voter! so LPM and other fortune seekers count your blessings as ingnorance plays a major part in the electoral process?
Bauze! come on now? you seem to be college educated and yet you still want to belittle educational attainment? We need educated people in parliament, we need people that are going to at least think at the same level, people that know the actual purpose of being in parliament! I thought education increased your level of understanding/perception? That why certain posts require some level of education! Gentleman we are in 2007?
it’s interesting to read blogs about whats important in the CV. Whether its experience or academic qualifications. Guys your contributions were informative. but keep in mind that the focus is on the people who are ‘unfortunately’ governing us right now and how they’ll handle the current constitiution process in our country. however, that was a good debate.
Mwaiche Kuku & Chapi,
I respect your choice to be indoctrinated by Ba Shi Chilufya Sata. But have become very worried looking at the direction of sycophancy for PF. It’s like MMD has really gotten you in hallucinations were you always see its activities every where and every time free Zambians express their views.
This I have noticed from your framings and invectives against my honorable ID. Every free mind here you are offended and attribute it to me. That is being myopic of you. I have just logged into the LT over the last 24 hours and looking at the day’s threads in your confused heads, it all accusations against my Pragmatist ID yet this is when making the first posts.
That kind of rabid behavior is highly uncivilized and typical of your PF thuggerly. I shudder to think what could have been happening had your thugs club reign to plot one. MMD has the power, resources, capabilities and privilege to abuse anything yet leadership and democracy have prevailed under their watch. They are tolerant and inclusive.
You have killed the blog which had so much life. There is no blog that can be 100% one party opinion oriented. You risk debating yourselves as diversity takes its destiny on other platforms.
I have not posted anything and have no time or intentions to frequent blogs for now way through December except when I get a few but rare free time henceforth.
Good lucky as posterity judges us all.
TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE!!! This should have been one of the criteria for being selected as a minister… In future any leader should ideally know and uphold the elements of such important instruments before taking up office. I can bet you that some cannot even remember the words in the national anthem… let alone recite it!!!
#34 Mwaice wandi Pragfimofimo, you shall continue to amuse me,Did you read yesterday’s Post and what Shakafuswe the nephew to Chuchu said about the psycopants in MMD? What we are saying on this blog are facts and if you a messenger of truth take heed and advise your muwelewele accordingly,cheap threats in governance and democracy are for small minds like you uncle who has been crippled with serious Dimentia and Amnesia.Where are you going from now til December? Dont emulate RB’s behaviour and dont take that as normal,if you will ever bring a 28 year old caucation white girl or otherwise here in Zambia on your way back next year just know that Kuku Mukwai wont spare you an inch.You need to exhibit high morals befitting your age, not backtracking like you are still in your twenties.Leave young girls to young boys,you have people like Elina Mwanza to suit your desires.Even the coversation changes because of age, instead of calling you Sweetie, she will be calling you’Shikulu’ .
Shakafuswa calls for revival of MMD
By Patson Chilemba
Monday August 27, 2007 [04:00]
Katuba member of parliament Jonas Shakafuswa
THE MMD as it currently stands is more or less dead
and it needs to be revived, Katuba member of
parliament Jonas Shakafuswa has said.
And MMD Chisamba member of parliament Moses Muteteka
has said that he considers himself suitable for the
position of MMD deputy national secretary because he
believes that the party’s national secretariat needs
restructuring.
Confirming his ambition to assume the ruling party’s
deputy national
secretary position, Shakafuswa said the MMD was not
moving at the pace it was supposed to be moving.
Shakafuswa said he had the vision to move the MMD at
the pace it ought to be moving.
“If you look at the party now, it’s more or less dead
and it needs to be revived. It’s not moving at the
pace it is supposed to be moving. If the party was not
dead, we can’t be losing to the PF,” Shakafuswa said.
“There is a gap between President Mwanawasa and the
people because if they are being told what the
government is doing, they will be told good things.”
Shakafuswa said the party had lost contact with the
grassroots.
“I am interested in the position because I have to
serve the party,” he said.
Shakafuswa said he had what it took to restore the
fortunes of the ruling party, especially in urban
centres such as Lusaka.
“Definitely, what qualifications haven’t I got? I’m
visionary and I can influence. I heard people talking
about the issue of experience. I’m running the
Ministry of Finance so if I can manage this big
ministry why should I fail to serve as deputy national
secretary?” Shakafuswa asked.
He warned that wrongdoers such as those who were in
the business of allocating illegal plots would not
have it easy.
“Some people wouldn’t be happy because there will be
nothing like cadres allocating plots and the party
will be on the foot for the future. We don’t want to
have cadres who are criminally minded. I know those
getting money in bus stations from the people but they
won’t have it easy,” said Shakafuswa.
And Muteteka said the party national secretariat
needed restructuring.
He said he had the capacity to contribute to the
well-being of the party.
Muteteka said the MMD needed people who were
passionate and morally upright to run the party’s
secretariat.
“To be very honest with the people, we need to rebuild
or restructure the MMD secretariat but this position
is not open for campaigns. If the opportunity arises,
I have the capacity to handle and I have a lot of
issues to contribute.
We need people who have the passion, who can
coordinate the youths and women and people who are
morally upright. That is why I said I’m one of those
for the position of that office,” said Muteteka.
And when contacted for comment if she had ambitions of
becoming deputy national secretary, former science and
technology minister Judith Kapijimpanga said that was
news to her.
However, Kapijimpanga said she was always available to
serve the nation.
The position of deputy national secretary will become
vacant after the departure of the current holder of
the position Major Richard Kachingwe who is going to
Nigeria as deputy High Commissioner.
MMD spokesperson Benny Tetamashimba said President
Mwanawasa would soon nominate someone for the
position.
#32 Eastern power, I reiterate my earlier posting #21, am not belittling Academic qualifications, especially those obtained genuinely – it is a fact of life, these can be obtained by all sorts of mischievous manner, hence in the western world, to get round pretenders, the system looks at a broader assessment of one, to make a determination of how suitable that person will be to an organization, THIS IS WHAT OUGHT TO PERTAIN IN ZAMBIA TOO, these are what are referred to as competitive interviews!
When you look at successful multinational corps, they seem to back-flip on this one, they “Headhunt!” Which in simple terms is “poaching” – one may say it’s unfair, but not really, top management are headhunted by being lured by large benefits in form of huge salaries,stock options,bonuses, etc. Their performance is tracked by prospective employers, usually these are competitors in the same line of business. It saves on time, money & hiring a none performer.
#38 bauze, spot on!
##28 Shaka Zulu
You are actually right on Vera, she stood up and said “ Mr speaker say, point of correction, it’s NOT Kyoto but Tokyo protocol. So honourable Percy Chanda plz elaborate more on albedo, CFC, and CO2 emissions. She really exhibited the exact kind of mentality shikulu Pragmatist and RB, his schoolmate are doing by marring nymphs. How do put someone to be in charge of environment when she’s 100% handicapped with environmental issues? Abo ba Pombo, he only wakes up from deep slumber ngabaufwa ati chuchu alefula zima ndoligani. You wait thugs, your days are numbered.
#20 Hey, I do agree with you but you forget to indicate they are educated *****s like Pombo, Chuchu, RB, Masebo and your grand father Pragmatist.
Having highly educated ministers does not guarantee good leadership. Just look back at Chiluba who went and emptied UNZA and other institutions of “Dr. so and so” and made them ministers. It’s like they immediately began a contest on how to screw up something simple! The country has never recovered from that mismangement and corruption.
ZAMBIAN GOVERNMENT TO REARREST AND RETRY FORMER FIRST LADY
The Zambian government says it intends to re-arrest and re-try Mrs. Regina Chiluba, wife of former President Frederick Chiluba on charges of receiving and obtaining stolen state property. The decision comes after a judge granted the government’s request to drop its prosecution of Mrs. Chiluba on all charges for the time being because the government could not find witnesses to testify against her.
Meanwhile, the judge has ordered the government to pay damages to Mrs. Chiluba and return all property seized from her.
Maxwell Nkole is chairman of Zambia’s Anti-Corruption Task Force responsible for investigating corruption during the 10 years of Chiluba’s presidency. He has said the government intends to re-arrest and retry Mrs. Chiluba because it believes it has a strong case.
“We have a very strong evidence against Mrs. Chiluba for possession of property suspected stolen or unlawfully obtained for which even during the investigation stage under question she failed she failed to explain how she got it. The statement she gave us was that her husband used to give her money from which she bought the properties in question. So obviously the husband is involved in this corruption trial and the judgment against him in London for money that he used to help himself from the government coffers. And we believe that Mrs. Chiluba’s case is a bi-product of the husband’s misconduct,†he said.
Nkole said the government would not honor the judge’s ordered to pay damages to Mrs. Chiluba.
“I don’t see how the government can be ordered to pay damages when in fact we haven’t concluded and prosecuted the case. As I said, these were our fears that the court was not being partial in this matter. When you enter nolle prosequi, it is expected that the case would be or may not be brought up again in court, and in this case the ceased items for Mrs. Chiluba are part and parcel of the exhibit list. And I think that it is premature for a court to rule that the exhibits be returned to her as assets. It shows that there is a prejudicial intent on the part of that decision,†Nkole said.
He reiterated the government’s intension to re-arrest and re-try Mrs.Chiluba.
“Yes, we are going to re-arrest her, take her before another court and then go through the whole process of trial,†he said.
Nkole denied the Zambian government has been engaged in political vendetta against the Chiluba family.
“No not at all. An independent court in London found her husband liable, and we have overwhelming evidence here at home of her husband’s criminal misconduct as well as misconduct on her part. So we are not prosecuting out of political vendetta. These are cases that have gone ahead with consultation with the director of public prosecutions, and all of us agreeed that there is a prima facie case against her for which she should answer,†Nkole said.
The government seized from Mrs. Chiluba four vehicles, three buildings, a television set and her bank accounts, which it used as exhibits during the trial.
But Nkole said the government does not intend to return the items despite the judge’s order they be returned to the former first lady.
“No we cannot do that. We can only return those things back to Mrs. Chiluba after a full trial. We intend to effect a re-arrest as soon as possible. It could be next week or the week after. I don’t know. It’s up to the handling officer to do so,†Nkole said.
Mwaiche Ka Kuku (115),
Stop being ashamed of your own misconducts. Just maintain your Kuku ID instead of wasting your time in hopeless Annonymous ID switch up. Once a pervert, always a pervert. Until you realize it you are ranting for God’s cursed ones. Hiding your immoral bootlicking for your fellow perverts in plunders will not do any good in the long run.
You have been wagging your tail senselessly everywhere over a simple court misconduct by that judge in the the Regina Chifunda Mwanza Chiluba’s case. That isn’t even the final court of appeal.
Which God are you blaspheming that way that he is for the perverts?
You should learn never to mention Yahwe in vain not even at the behest of your master plunders. Your plunders were against Zambians’ hope and forced them into mass Graves for the impunity that you reigned on my country. Indeed your soul is a cursed one from the day it was born.
Has this man, Max Nkole, lost it? I thought he studied law. Until he rearrests and charges her he has absolutely no right to the property and should pay the costs as per court judgement, he has a right to take the costs matter to an appellant court – not the evidence!
No sane High Court judge can grant him the evidence after the prosecution entered a nolle on their own. What section of the CPC is he using?
He is also wrong by stating that “When you enter nolle prosequi, it is expected that the case would be or may not be brought up again in courtâ€, it not expected but ACCEPTED the former accused can be charged with the same crimes again. Until that happens the accused is free to go one with his/her life and all the property returned just the Mathanis, Mungombas and Princess Winas.
This is tantamount to a police officer approaching you and asking you to post bond and sureties in advance because he has gut feeling you may commit a crime in future!
#42 The judge has ruled, all that govt can do is appeal to a higher court, Max for all his education & at one time I thought professionalism, is now trying to take the law into his own hands by refusing a court ruling – where are we headed to??? It’s really sad, just when one thought that we might see some semblance of normalcy, it just gets worse!!!
He even casually justifies going thru the whole court process at tax payers expense without even flinching an eyelid!!
#43
I haven’t seen #115 here. OR may be YOU got it from from another planet. hOW MANY ROLLS OF DAGGA have you smoked today to make you have tainted sight? cI Veteran, ala leka insele. Bushe kashi ukakula lisa iwe mufafa?
#43
I haven’t seen #115 here. OR may be YOU got it from from another planet. hOW MANY ROLLS OF DAGGA have you smoked today to make you have tainted sight? cI Veteran, ala leka insele. Bushe kashi ukakula lisa iwe mufana?
#45, I am not only shocked but disappointed in Max!
#45 so what Nkole is saying by… “Yes, we are going to re-arrest her, take her before another court and then go through the whole process of trial†is that they are judge shopping around right?
Bauze…! nice points.
#42.What has happened to gov of laws and not men?Where are we going to run to if the Court`s decisions aren`t even respected?Why take people to court in the first place?
Where is ka Pragfimofimo to make comment on #42? You see bloggers, every time there is a transgression from chuchu’s camp nishi ka pragfimofimo kayibila umwibi deep in the river and start breathing from the other part and ukwisa tupuka nishi patalala pa blog. Iwe ka pragfimofimo leka amino yabushetani
Chainama workers ‘strike’
Health Workers at Chainama Hills hospital have started a sit-in Protest.
The workers are protesting against management’s decision not to pay them three months housing allowance arrears.
A ZNBC news crew that went to the institution found nurses, doctors and other health workers loitering outside the administration block.
The Zambia National Union of Health and Allied workers said the workers will continue with their sit-in protest until management pays them their dues.
Management at the institution, declined to comment on the matter.
And Ministry of Health Permanent Secretary, Simon Miti said the sit-in protest at the Hospital is an internal matter.
Dr. Miti said management should explain why workers have not been paid their housing allowances even after government released K480 million for the exercise.
#44 KC you are right on the money. This is how it works Nkole will pay or has to pay the costs for this Nulle whether he re arrests regina or not. In the eyes of the law these are two separate cases. GRZ has to pay Regina and return the so called evidence and then he can re arrest her and request the judge to seize property in the name of evidence again. The judge says yes and Nkole enters a Nulle again. GRZ pays the costs and returns property. Nkole discovers that Regina has no invoice for the pair of shoes she bought. Nkole re arrests regina again grabs the shoes ,cars,TVs etc. Nkole enters a nulle again. Meanwhile the cars,tv and shoes goes missing under Nkoles custody. Judge awards regina a K10BN settlement for her lose and un necessary vindictive prosecution.
I think someone has to make a stop to this nonsense. We have already spent more than K1BN on Regina, yet the whole propert she has is not even worth half what we spent.How can you try someone for a TV?
#53.Veteran.How did you know such data,are you a patient there?
Ba Jose pragmatis and Veteran are one and the same person aka Ngugi.
Mwaiche Kuku cum Joze,
Are you student of some Madrasas of hatred in Kandahar? I now confirm received reports that you traveled to Kandahar on rabid enlistment. You mean you had no English lectures in rhetoric and critical analysis? Where have you seen me insult when you are the ones insulting President Mwanawasa, the MMD and any anti PF crusader here?
What is so peculiar that we should not tell you off that you are being immoral perverts in your support for your accomplices in crime against Zambians? You think if you are that insulated with your immoral motives, every Zambian has lost his senses too?
Be advised that there are no plans to relegate or relent on justice and national moral credence anchored on public accountability. There will be no sanctuary for criminals under this watch be it you the renegades to our national morals. Zambians will choke them one at a time wherever with whatever hand extension that will be needed and at any cost as partners generously support the Zambian causes.
Patriotic Zambians will never waver irrespective of your rabid insults on them and institutions. They are setting the standard that will never be reversed not even in the 27 years MMD tenure on the table. Prepare to live with or join patriotic Zambians on this morals super highway Zambians have sought for decades.
Keep bootlicking for your fellow perverts against the dead rejected innocent Zambian souls in Hospitals, retirement, retrenchments and Binani mines.
#54.SAGE.How do we put a stop to such incompetence and abuse of public resources?
#54 SAGE, these guys should know that if they have limited knowledge of the law the have the AG and DPP offices at their disposal before making such statements as if he is at a local shebeen buying all the rounds and no one questions you, no matter how stupid you sound!
The big problem with Zed and most of Africa is that, depending on Max’s salary and relationship with LPM, the well versed guys in law at Justice, AG or DPP cannot advise him to shut up. They wouldn’t want a Chitoba-type of “transfer” to Chilubi island. It’s each one for him self!!!
#59. You just reminded me of the innocent citizens Chitobalised to shangombo ,chilubi ete what has happened to them? has anyone interjected or they will for ever suffer for trying to cut the family tree?
Mwetukopo mulasabaila sana. Veteran umowine na Pragmatist blah blah blah blah.Though Ba Prgmatist niba brother in patriotism i don’t care calling us one. It does not take away any value from consolidating the Zambia cause on the ground. Do you see us bothered even when we empirically know that Ka Joze and Ka Kaku IDs are used by the same PF kakopo in bootlicking insults on leaders on behalf on Sata cheaply.
Chapi (54),
Offer our amatole for castration and our virus infested blood for disposal.
Woman beaten to death
An instant justice mob has killed a 61 year old woman of Mwinilunga whom they suspected to be a witch.
Police Spokesperson, Bonny Kapeso said the woman’s body was later dumped in the Zambezi River.
Mr. Kapeso told ZNBC news, that people suspected of having participated in the beating are believed to have fled to a neighbouring country.
Meanwhile, one person died while 12 others were injured in a road traffic accident on the Solwezi/ Zambezi road.
Mr. Kapeso said the accident happened when the Canter truck they were traveling in overturned after a tyre burst.
The injured are admitted to Mukinge hospital.
And an eight month old baby was last week burnt to death in Mfumbwe, while two other children escaped unhurt when the house they were sleeping in caught fire.
The fire was caused by a candle which was left burning as the childrens mother was out.
#60 SAGE, Mateyo, who is now running DEC, says he will look into it but cannot start reversing transfers. What he means is, “the writing is on the wall if you try to do the same to me!!!”
SAGE,
So the post used those Chitobalised chaps, made its money from the sales at no reward for whistle blowers. Seemingly MMD reigns for another 10-15 years and those chaps supposedly 10 years short of their retirements don’t get promotions, are frustrated with servere remands of eventual dismissal. Chitoba has the money and contracts on his ways.Who is is the losers then?Is it MMD that can hire and fire or those chaps? What precedence does it set for the would be informants if society rejects and forgets about the future of those post collaborators? Is M’membe going to help them out or he just uses them in unwinable battles against Government? Shouldn’t we help them instead of our rhetoric here?
Military to get new anti-explosives vehicles this fall Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News Service
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Font: * * * * KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — The Canadian military should see the arrival this fall of a new system of vehicles for detecting and clearing improvised explosive devices, Canada’s top military commander here said Tuesday.
The military quietly announced in May that it would purchase 16 specialized anti-IED vehicles from the U.S. military for $29.6 million. The vehicles were originally expected to arrive in August.
But Brigadier General Guy Laroche told Canwest News Service Tuesday that the vehicles are now expected to arrive in the fall.
“When you conduct operations and so on and you have additional vehicles like that that can clear the mines and make sure the area is safe, it’s always a good thing,†he said.
“Because as we know, most of the casualties that we’ve had in the past few months have been essentially due to IEDs.â€
The challenge of dealing with IEDs, normally planted at the side of roads or bridges, has become one of the biggest thorns in the side of the Canadian military.
Of the 25 Canadian soldiers killed so far this year in Afghanistan, all but three have been killed by IEDs.
The threat has exposed the vulnerability of the convoys that regularly ply the roads west of Kandahar City to supply Canada’s various forward operating bases.
The new system is called the Expedient Route Opening Capability (EROC). It includes three vehicles that specialize in unearthing and neutralizing buried IEDs: The Husky, the Buffalo, and the Cougar.
The Husky is a tractor-like vehicle equipped with a metal detector that scans the side of the road and the road bed for explosives.
The Buffalo has an extendable arm and remote-control camera that can physically expose the bomb so it can be identified at a safe distance.
The Cougar is essentially an armoured personnel carrier that would transport Canada’s explosive ordinance teams and their array of tools, including anti-IED robots.
The Husky will be acquired through the U.S. Army, while the Buffalo and Cougar will be bought from the U.S. Marine Corps.
“In the world, it’s one of the best if not the best (system),†said Laroche. “The Americans are using the system for a while. They have been using it in Iraq quite a lot, so I think it will be good for Canada to have that.â€
Canada has a fleet of RG-31 Nyalas, a jeep-like armoured vehicle with a V-shaped hull designed to protect against roadside bombs and mines. U.S. and British forces in Kandahar province, by contrast, often use armoured Humvees and Land Rovers, which offer considerably less protection.
The Canadian military also has mine-clearance vehicles and quasi-tanks equipped with ploughs that can clear IEDs.
But unlike other countries stationed here, Canada does not have helicopters that can transport troops to forward operating bases, forcing the military to rely heavily on the province’s perilous roads.
The military also does not have any vehicles designed to handle roadside bombs, which can be built using anything from a stack of mines to artillery shells.
“This equipment is essentially specialized on IEDs, so that’s essentially the first equipment that we’re going to get like that,†said Laroche.
Nevertheless, he cautioned that the system will by no means ensure that the threat of IEDs will be eliminated.
Sixty-nine Canadian soldiers and one diplomat have been killed in Afghanistan since 2002.
About 2,300 Canadian troops are stationed here as part of the NATO-led coalition that is trying to secure and rebuild the county.
Canada’s military commitment ends in 2009, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said he will seek the consensus of Parliament before extending the mission.
what are you you guys talking about levy is my number 1 fan
Moi throws weight behind Kibaki
Former Kenyan President Daniel arap Moi has backed his successor Mwai Kibaki’s bid for a second presidential term in elections later this year.
The former leader said he had been observing the country’s politics and was convinced that President Kibaki was the best candidate to unite Kenya.
Mr Moi stood down after 2001 elections, in which his Kanu party was defeated by a coalition led by Mr Kibaki.
The endorsement is a major boost for the incumbent’s re-election bid.
The former leader, who ruled Kenya for 24 years, still wields great political influence.
Mr Moi said he was disappointed that “tribalism and selfish individual interests have been entrenched in our society”.
“After very careful assessment, informed by my political experience spanning half a century, I am convinced that Mwai Kibaki ought to be given the chance to complete the constitutionally accepted two-term tenure,” Mr Moi said during a news conference.
Unity hope
“You have seen President Kibaki’s development agenda that he has shown. He is not tribalist, he is development-minded and he is for the unity of the people of this country,” he said, adding that he would be campaigning for President Kibaki in the run up to the December elections.
Mr Moi also lashed out at the opposition Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), saying it was a divisive party.
“Above all, all of them are driven by hate. I don’t want Kenya to end in chaos,” said the self-styled professor of politics.
Politicians allied to the ODM accused the former president of trying to scuttle the opposition movement.
In July, Mr Kibaki appointed Mr Moi as a special peace envoy to Sudan to help facilitate a peace deal in southern Sudan where Kenya has strong economic interests.
Political analysts have seen the thawing of relations between Mr Moi and the incumbent president in recent months as a sign that they may have been planning a loose coalition.
Kenya has enjoyed growing economic strength under President Kibaki, but this has been marred by endemic corruption which has continued to thrive despite the government’s pledges to end it.
As usual, the state pets are at it again, trying to distract our attention from the topic at hand, keep at it, you areafter allearning our monies worth as state pets, try to bark a bit louder, don’t just whimper with the tails in between your legs, covering the forsaken hole!!!
As usual, the state pets are at it again, trying to distract our attention from the topic at hand, keep at it, you are after all earning our monies worth as state pets, try to bark a bit louder, don’t just whimper with the tails in between your legs, covering the forsaken hole!!!
I think some one should right to the POST. Its unfaire to let this issue die a natural death while chitobalised citizens suffer peacefully. As a gesture of good governance GRZ should reverse the tranfers and demotions. Chitoba has been compromised it doesnt matter what the outcome will be. He can not lead DEC with integrity. DEC director needs to be above reproach. He should be spotless. In the spirit of nourishing the family tree LPM can offer him a job at Teka farm. The issue of imprest is a major cash drain in GRZ today. If a thorough investigation was conducted on how those moneys are spent. Half the directors, PS and ministers would be fired today. Even LPM does not retire his imprest. Why does he even get travel and accomodation allaowances if GRZ pays for his travel and upkeep? Why do we even give gratuity to LPM or the president if we will be taking care of him till death do ath part. The whole system is designed to milk cash from GRZ.
bauze (70)
Hah hah hah haaah your insult fits membership in our party PF.I will forward your name to Hon. Kambwili and Chishiba. Certainly Presido Sata will buggie and take 7 puffs of cigar over your membership. By any chance are you a gay? Let me know and never look at Christy but lets talk.
Do we have 2 KUKUs on the blog…. The current KUKU is not consistant with the KUKU we know and blog with.
you can obviously tell who the imposter is!!
Ba SAGE,
I’m the one and only KUKU here ever consistent with my bootlicking for Presido Sata. I’m ashamed of that.
my earlier posting has certainly achieved the desired effect, drawn out the pets, though not much of a bark, still whimpering!
I’m out naya kuma order ba SAGE sungeni insaka.
#75 Ya right…The real KUKU is a man of substance who tries to dialogue and debate at a very high level. Trust me you no match to the real deal. Dream on.
Bauze,
Kuku asked a very important question. Are you a gay going by your love for asses? I heard you talking about some holes between some legs. Are you talking of where you came through or what? Otherwise you sound a guy.
SAGE (78),
I thought Kuku na Chapi bababeka mubulwele mumano pano pansaka. Yangu tata muli abengi kanshi. Since when and over what issues has Kuku been a level headed dialoguing imbecile on the blog? You call those 24/7 insults on Levy and MMD level headed dialogue? You must be another dysfunctional ***** without sense and direction. You must be another scandal in your head and sick in loins.
#80 Lifa… The temptation is for me to hit back. But i will restrain myself and hope we can reason together. KUKU is critical of LPM. But the difference is that he argues intelectually and if challenged he provides the necessary info needed to substantiate his point of view. I argue for hours with KUKU. But he never calls me a “dysfunctional *****”. My approach is different i do not oppose LPM nor blindly support Sata. I take them on an issue to issue basis. If they are right i support, when they are wrong i oppose. Chapi is another guy who is critical of LPM. Does that make him a bad guy? hell no. You have to learn to agree to disagree without loosing your mind. On some issues there is no right or wrong. its just that pips have different ways of arriving at the solution. If you have followed pips posting on this blog. One thing stands out. WE ALL WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR Z. But how we feel that can be attained is where we differ. Does that make us “dysfuntional *****s”? Hell NO.
IWE ka SAGE, is this forum for discussing Chitoba. Read the headline.
HK elyo wa shibuka?
SAGE
Say all you want to say i have no time for uncalled for apologetics. You are an ***** even in the way you have wasted your time to justify what is unjustified. Kuku, chapi,Veteran, Mbozi and Joze have been here watering down this blog with their cadreish verbatim yet you have been cheerleadering seeing that as level headed dialogue. You have made alot of sober would be debaters to to shun the blog because of your stupidity of wanting to turning into your tuntemba platforms. You a dysfunctional ***** period. Go hung or get lost shaah.
Kuku mwaice epotwaba. I was just wondering what has come into chuchu’s mind about his remarks “Child bearing”. I thought maybe balemubepeshafye chuchu, but knowing chuchu and his utterances, cipuba. You know, chipumputu taipwa. I was surprised that Zambians re-elected him despite knowing that he has chipumputu. Anyway, Kuku epotuli.
Birds of a feather and similar cliches. If Mwanawasa’s ministers are ignorant, the one who works with them is several times more ignorant. The calibre of people Mwanawasa surrounds himself with speaks for itself. The real question is whether Mwanawasa and cohorts are trainable and capable of learning new tricks. The future of the nation lies in the answer to that question.
Fellow bloggers with due respect,this impositor posting blogs viz #62,65,68,72,75,77 is one of those empty cymbals trying to turnish my well intellect intended debates.
#73 SAGE my brother with all your IT expertise can you try to find out who this lay back rabid dog is? Why cant you learn to pick your own ID’s and post your unplatables as much as you wish?IT COST YOU NOTHING . This blog is not for kids,Lunatics,learning disabled persons etc if by chance you are a Kid or a person living in porximity to chainama Hospital just hand yourself in.
LASTLY MY LEARNED BLOGGERS-SAGE,BAUZE,KC,CK,CHAPI,MALA,BA JOZE,PRAGFIMOFIMO,VETERAN, ITS THE LAST YOU ARE SEEING ME POST ANYTHING ON THIS UNCONTROLLED BLOG ANYONE WHO WILL APPEAR USING MY ID’S PLEASE IGNORE SUCH EMBICILE HE DESERVES MORE SYMPATHY THAN ANGER,AND TO YOU WHOEVER IT IS ,MY HUMBLE APPEAL JUST SHOW YOUR IDIOCY TO THE MASSES AND NOT SABOTAGING CREDIBLE BLOGGERS LIKE MYSELF.I COMMAND RESPECT AND AS SUCH RESPECT PEOPLE OF ALL RACES
Up to this point this forum has been alittle more respectable than many blogs where lunatics pour their own life’s frustrations. How else can you explain someone insulting a person they’ll never see. Things are getting ugly and can understand why decent people wanna stay away. Isnt there another place where these wimps who cant stand an opinion can take there ‘ideas’?
# 66 ci Veteran
Iwe ulimbwa sana iyimyanga chuchu ilenda.
Disrupt debate that much attack MMD cadres and their fellow stupid ***** leader chuchu. They have chased Easy and now they what to chase Chapi, Kuku, ba Sage, Lifa, AM and others who will strongly oppose MMD lack of foresight and its manipulation of policies which benefit bootlickers like the most ***** zed has ever produced aged 72 shikulu Pragmatist who’s still in intuitive phases of exploring the world and getting hooked on the blog forsaking his 21 year wife. Pragmatist, your disturbance of the flow of debate is well known and taken note of by bloggers once chuchu’s camp is exposed of its everlasting transgressions. You will NEVER SILENCE ME….until chuchu gets a second severe chipumputu.
I aways blame ftj for picking lpm to be the president of zambia.Its a pity at the same time to be led by ignorant ministers.I think the issue here is not about education per say as education is important for every one.I think we are lacking leaders to lead.The crop of leaders that we have today is so poor and embarracing to talk about.I feel disappointed and scared to hear such remarks coming from the highest office.It makes me to wonder if zambians will ever be free from ba mwisa aba aba latutaka.Fellow blogers,we can turn all the ideas expressed,and every cry into reality and into a better zambia.If only we have a will to change this crop of leadership we have.
cao.
Hey Lifa, leave the young man SAGE alone. He is degausing on this forum. He is highly charged. Mwana this is Stress reliever after a hard and long day.
#85 Kalembe Kafyuke
Ala natutebelelwa nekufu shapa blog of the likes yaka Pragmatist, ci Veteran, FACT, na ci Hey disrupting debates and impersonating innocent pipo. They have chased hard working friend Easy and now they think they will do same to us. Bayinyelafye telusela pantu tapali ifyabo. The named chaps fikopo sana ifyajayila ukulanda “indee bwana†nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu thinking they will silence me. Babepelefya…Am a radical umwinemwine.
To the Naysayers…Firstly, lets stop impersonating others..if you have nothing to say, simply read.Secondly, please refrain from getting emotional when blogging and blurting out unpalatables..just express your views/sentiments/criticisms!
#93 DAKASETS.You right on the money.Fellow bloggers we need to remember that we demean democracy when we DISLIKE the people with whom we only DISAGREE.We`re all interested in seeing a prosperous and blessed Zambia and in the process we might have differences in opinion but let`s not shift from out main goal.Let`s try to rise above anything petty and focus on issues that would add value to great nation.Remember ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.
#93 DAKASETS.You right on the money.Fellow bloggers we need to remember that we demean democracy when we DISLIKE the people with whom we only DISAGREE.We`re all interested in seeing a prosperous and blessed Zambia and in the process we might have differences in opinion but let`s not shift from out main goal.Let`s try to rise above anything petty and focus on issues that would add value to our great nation…ZAMBIA….Remember ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.
ZAMBIA ONLINE WITH ITS†DEAR MR. PRESIDENT” IS BACK
Cool the old “Dear Mr. President” on Zambia online is indeed back. ZOL should have long abandoned the new Discussion Forum version they switched too. That trial version was too vulnerable and a failure to serve any purpose. Spammers took over the show. Now that the old and secured version has been brought back I’m geared for more smart debates with any MMD diehards online.
Zambia online carries a national name and is the pioneer of smart online discussions. It has served democracy in Zambia with unbeatable tolerance. I wish LT could one day learn from them and establish rules of the game. ZOL has rules hence membership of intellectuals freely engaging.
BA JOZE (89) & # (92) UNDER TOPIC “LEVY TAKES A SWIPE AT MINISTERSâ€
Fellow compatriots,
Allow me to categorically dispel the lies and unfounded outbursts of Ba Joze in # (89) that I have been chased out of this blog. Let me put records straight by saying “No one has chased me out of the LT blogâ€. My decision is personal after some deep reflection on the standard of this blog that has sunk so low with insults becoming the standard of Ba Joze’s contribution style.
I may disagree with some political parties, Levy and his support base but have the conscious and morals not to align with this madness. Fortunately I have had someone who knows everything about LT has confided in me with evidence at hand that Ba Joze is the custodian of this blog. But if the custodian is that insane I don’t think there remains hope for smart and free debates. I do not find his verbatim on leaders and fellow debaters acceptable to swim in or carpet.
We all know here that this blog has been addressing Levy as Chuchu. Now look at Post # 89 & 92 I cite below. I neither see peace, dignity or constructive end in such debates driven on madness. Levy is a father, President, husband and elderly man very wrong to insult him like that. I do not think Ba Joze would take it kind if his Father and mother instead took those insults from any of the bloggers here.
Look at two posts in contention and tell if the source is okey in his head:
I quote “The named chaps fikopo sana ifyajayila ukulanda indee bwana nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu thinking they will silence me. Babepelefya…Am a radical umwinemwineâ€.
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“nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu†Quote
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“Iwe ulimbwa sana iyimyanga chuchu ilendaâ€. Quote
“iyimyanga chuchu ilendaâ€. Quote
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BA JOZE (89) & # (92) UNDER TOPIC “LEVY TAKES A SWIPE AT MINISTERSâ€
Look at two posts in contention and tell if the source is okey in his head:
I quote “The named chaps fikopo sana ifyajayila ukulanda indee bwana nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu thinking they will silence me. Babepelefya…Am a radical umwinemwineâ€.
“ifyajayila ukulanda “indee bwana†nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu†Quote
“ifyajayila ukulanda “indee bwana†nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu†Quote
“nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu†Quote
“nokupema ifisushi fyakwa chuchu†Quote
“Iwe ulimbwa sana iyimyanga chuchu ilendaâ€. Quote
“iyimyanga chuchu ilendaâ€. Quote
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LIFA #80 & #84.After calling bloggers as ‘DYSFUNCTIONAL *****S and IMBICILES’ and yet you turn around and say that the blog is being watered down by the use of insults.Don`t you think you`re part of the problem?Let`s learn to express our points without any use of abusive language and add value to the blog in particular and the nation at large.
#97 and 98
u are the one who’s insulting most by reporting and from the look of things it’s like you are enjoying dirt msg.
Diversity is good let the people judge who is serious. I’m almost done with mine potentially meeting international discusion forum standards.You cannot run a public debating blog without rules, controls or with oversears that are such opinionated and delogatory against those in opposite side. You should learn from the Smart Chanda Chisala at ZOL who articulates his mind but without insults on those that come out mentally challenging him. Ba Joze is a failure, has communications problems and is too emotion with his insulting tongue.
BBC SPORT reports that Zambia`s Chaswe Nsofwa has died in an Israeli hospital minutes after collapsing during a training session.