The government has in the last six months failed to give students allowances, deserting more than 400 students based in Russia.Thus leaving them to face the savage winter on their own without financial or material help. In a bid to buy school materials for the new academic year that opened two weeks ago,students both male and female have engaged in various activities to raise money. It is well know that the Russian law does not allow foreign students to work in Russia. This has lead to some students going to extreme measures to make ends meet.
According to a 2007 survey Moscow was found to be the most expensive city in the world, to live in. The students complained that their meager allowances, even when the government remembers to send them, are hardly enough to sustain them especially in the harsh winters.
“The average cost of living in Russia is approximately $600 per month and our government only manages to give us $200 per month which is paid after every 4 months. Every time our payments are delayed by at least a month. We tried to forge these complaints to our government but they have been giving us a blind eye and deaf ear. Officials from the Ministry of Education came some months ago only to come and comfort us and not minding our empty stomach,” said one student, who preferred to remain anonymous lest the government withdrew its sponsorship from him.
The students also lamented that they are given $10 equivalent for accommodation whilst current prices for accommodation facility’s range in price from $170 – $800 depending on the university and location. They are thus forced to lodge in dilapidated accommodation facilities.The students feel cheated as they where initially given the impression that accommodation is free.
“Is it just an adage that accommodation is free to lure the rabbit out of its hole or we are fed wrong information right from the start?” asked one of the students. The students however, emphasized that they never wished or required to live in luxurious hostels at the expense of the Government but only decent facilities.
“Why not just build better universities at home than sending us here in winter colleges so that we freeze broke! Please help us guys before we become beggers in Russia. Five months no money and snow!” cried another student.
The students are pleading with Government to look into the hardships they are facing. They request for the government to review the contract it has with the Russian government.
“We appeal to the stakeholders to foster amendments in the contract to better serve the welfare of students.”
Congrats LT for bringing this sad story about Zambian youths suffering in Russia. I pray that some government officials in charge of disbursing these funds do so fast before these lives are ruined by the cold, prostitution and drugs.
Why send people abroad if you can not afford to pay for their education? If we do not need Russian education then we do not need to send poor Zambians there
mmmmhh though i feel sorry for you friends, but what are the ‘extreme measures you have gone to in order for you to make ends meet?’ Hope not prostitution!! Nkasako ife pa UK timasebenza mutuma call centres.
This story of students getting stuck in Russia has been going on for years now. I can not bring myself to comprehend why the government keeps on sending students there when they can not afford it. Maybe they should shut UNZA for good and channel the cash to the stranded students doing meaningful courses. Gosh this so called University of Zambia and its outdated courses my ass!!
damn so sad,dnt these govt bursaries have clear laid down conditions of their busaries.How can you survive with those peanuts in a land of savages.Moreover those that are selected on these sponsorships are of a high intellect,what a worst of brains.Also you students sometimes you just get excited with going abroad,moreover the eduation system of russia is useless,you could have stayed home and get the best
sad!!! why send students abroad when you can’t take care them. And you expect them to complete their bonding period with GRZ? shame on you bursaries committee and lungwangwa
This is really sad. Why send students abroad if we cannot take care of their expenses? This issue should be sorted out as it is embarassing the nation. Dont be surprised if our people get involved in ilegle activties in Russia.
i guess we r still moving backwards as a nation, from having one of the best universities in Africa to actually being as good as having no unversity,Disgusting that now the state can send its own people to live in poverty in another country and YET its ok to increase ministerial salaries. we need leadership that is in touch with the people, laws to scrutinise our leaders when they are at fault rendering them accountable. These old farts dont listen to the people who gave them power instead they jus talk and keep farting till they have no gas.
We need some clear explanations from the minister of Education and give us a proper reason to why these students are not supported over there in Russia. Shame upon you Lungwangwa!
Great stuff, LT for publishing this one. We need real change in the way GRZ operates.
The winning team has launched its campaign. Mr incoming Republican President Hakainde Hichilema would-be, I wish you (HH) all the very best as you enter this challenging job. Please, stay true to your commitment and make sure you show the tribalists that you are the man of the moment for Zambia. I know, if and when you become President the same tribalists will be advocating that you (HH) go for a third term, but as a powerful man committed to improving the Zambian Citizens’ lives please do your part and leave others to take it up from where you will leave it in a democratic and constituional manner.
What is rotten and useless is the Zambian foriegn services, all stuffed by relatives of those in power. These Zambian missions abroad are totally useless, they serve no other purpose than as job centers for ministers relatives. They should be pushing the case for the stranded students.
“Why not just build better universities at home than sending us here in winter colleges so that we freeze broke! Please help us guys before we become beggers in Russia. Five months no money and snow!” cried another student.
This is very very sad. Please, GRZ take Unza, OTHER universities and colleges in Zambia very seriously. It does not help to just send our Citizens to suffer in foreign countries like Russia. Parents and relatives to the suffering students please consider voting the UPND’s HH fro real change in the way GRZ operates.
thanks ba LT and all the guys for yo support!!!!! we are going through this and we know wat it means!! we need change!!
ba zambia suwa…why not invest the same money in local institutions then making poor students die in the bitter winters of Russia.
Why does our government continue to embrass us like this. We all know how difficult it can be to live in foreign countires without money and for our government to continue to send students to foreign countries only to abandon them si unforgivable. Improve our Universities instead of subjecting these poor kids to these conditions. Shame on you GRZ. You really need to get your act together. To the students in Russia, keep fighting for your rights and thanks LT for bringing to this disgrace to light.
I have just been talking to rb on the phone trying to persuade and remind him on the student situation in Russia. He tells me, ” i am in the mean time busy dishing out car loans to chiefs, giving sugar and mealie meal handouts villagers in eastern province and endorsing the salary increments for myself and my comrades who are capable of voting. Those boys and girls are just making noise while they are not even in the position to vote-just ignore their rantings”.
Sorry boys and girls, but that was his response.
Have a heart,too late your heart gone cold,keep your.head up guys and girls,better days
Zambian education for sure is slowly but surely going to the dogs, in particular our Universities. Most of the Ministers and government officials are educating their children outside Zambia well funded for that matter. Sad reading that the Government has abandoned the very brains we need to utilise to catch up with the changing world. Botswana is heavily investing into education as witnessed by the many students who are doing their studies abroad. If you think education is expensive, then try ignorance at your own peril because the world is moving forward not waiting for Zambia to figure out a plan for its future. UNZA is always closed so what is government governing?
correction: …to villagers…
Guys I was a student in St.Petersberg,in 2003, we faced similar problems. One of my Bemba (as usual) friend, could not leave his bedroom, because he made a schedule of every 3 hours there was a girl coming in his room. They were paying him $10. So a $50/day was a good income for him. Anyway, he help feed us, while we brought him notes from classes, sometimes doing assignments for him. Its Russia ku munobe..
You see people that is what Mwanawasa and RB started, you all have been singing praises. You want to continue where his vision. WAKE UP Zambians. What is happening there?????
YES THATS TRUE.
IF GOVERNMENT SENDS MY MONEY, I WILL NOLONGER WORK AS A STRIPPER IN THIS MIRRAGE HOTEL.
ITS GOOD WORK FOR ME SINCE I CAME FROM KANYAMA.
MY PARENTS ARE PROUD OF ME.
This acticle doesn’t even mean sh.t to Zambian government. peolple will read today and forget it tomorrow, Or may none of those important men will read this and afraid nothing will be done. I will always remain proud to be Zambia
VERY VERY Sad stories coming from Russia on our brother and sisters studying there. Please, PHONE your PARENTS and Other RELATIVES t=and tell them to VOTE for real change this time around – UPND’s HH for President October 30, 2008.
May you all have a great day.
this article needs to printed in the postnews paper.
It was Kaunda’s idea to send students to Russia and other eastern bloc countries e.g Romania, E. Germany, Poland etc. It turned out that the education systems were sub-standard. Now since the fall of the iron curtain the government has continued the trend. Moscow is no longer what it used to be, its the most expensive city to live in the world. Question is, why continue sending students there? They could certainly invest in UNZA……
somebody print this acticle where important people will see it damn((
Sad reading indeed,i think i’ll be right to say that all patriotic Zambians especially lawyers should fight to ensure whoever is responsible for this mess is prosecuted.How do you fly poor students with no money in their pockets to a country that is still in the 19th Century socially & expect them to survive.There is a high rate of HIV infections in Russia so i worry for those being forced to engage in selling their bodies to earn a living,shame on the govt 1st for not ensuring we have more universities & 2nd for sending students abroad when they know there is no funding.If students at UNZA & cbu can’t get allowances,how can the voiceless in Russia get theirs?fCUK MMD.
ZED govt is useless.Let them build universities 4 us.That’s why whites always insult us that in Africa there’s nothing except monkeys and bananas.
And russian people were taught in primary schools tht there’s nothing(nechivo v africa) in africa.U can’t even find a car.
In the streets they ask us which tranport we used to come here(Russia).Most russians think we used ships or we just walked from Africa.
Well ,In russia things are bad,Only russians benefit the economy.
Foreigners especially blacks to find a good job is a miracle.
I don’t know why Russia doesn’t allow foreign students to work.Anyway Russia is another word
Now this is a sad story that needs its deserved attention. UNZA closed, loans for chiefs, stranded students in Russia, one begins to wonder where our priorities lie as a nation!!! The whole story makes very sad reading. And where is the so called concerned MMD govt when our students are struggling to sustain themselves, with no one from the concerned govt to listen to them?! It bothers me when I hear that Zambia is doing well in terms of economy. What we can truly say is rather than the country, some people are benefiting immensely from the booming economy. Please, reach out urgently to our suffering students in Russia.
We need more media freedoms to expose these lot to the greater masses, proper propaganda, give the people a microscopical view of what these people in power are actually doing, freedom of speech is limited to the point you cant speak the truth in public. Modern day Totalatarian states.
#27 is 100% correct,this also happens here in Saint Petersburg.pliz GRZ help us!!!!!!!!!
The problem is that africans think going to europe is a solution.
we really suffer in russia!!Rasim in russia is also a big problem then money issue.Awe zambians wake up!!let us build our universities and hospitals 4 the peole.what makes us 2 think we can’t offer good education to our people?whites are clever, they made a black man to think whatever a white man does is correct.
I’ve been with whites and understand the suffering blacks go through.sometimes I cry when a read tribal commments among ourselves.what’s wrong with a black man?Doesn it mean we can’t rule ourselves?Always we need whites to help us!what a shame to a black man!!I
This is very a sad reading. What can I do help? at least that is how I feel. I have kids of my own who I have vowed never to leave my homestead until they complete University. I know what you are all going through. Its worse in a foreign land. Please guys and dolls abroad/overseas, those who can afford,==== please, help those who are willing to be helped or sponsored– genuinely!
its very sad to read this story other countries are beta as you are allowed to work a number of hours a week.the good scholarships go to their relatives who aften dont even deserve it.russia is a 3rd world country the only deference is their colour.substandard accomodation, poverty is writen on pipos faces.some of these if not all are even beta off pa Z.the level of stupidity in our leaders just continue to grow.russians men and women alike have gone pro escorts they even fly to other countries fot prostitution that tell you even a take away job is imposible to get for a foreighn student there no black jobs even.we need to stand up and speak enough is enough
This is a sad reading and hope someone is listening to these cry. First it is the Problem #10 outlined of the foreign service. They are just in these offices to enjoy the luxury of state funds. Now you brothers and Sisters are going through these difficulties, i feel sorry for you. I know i am also a student here and life is hard. Immediately i finish i get back to Zed and try to influence change in the country. We need change and put in people with the heart. RB sale that sugar and send money to suffering students than giving it to those women who have no votes for you.
SOME OF THESE GOVERNMENTS CAN BE GROSSLY IRRESPONSIBLE. THE WASTE PART IS THIS NEWS IS ONLY ON THE INTERNET. THERE4 99% OF ZAMBIANS IN ZAMBIA DONT KNOW WHATS HAPPENING TO THESE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF OURS. WORSE STILL ONLY A HANDFUL OF ZAMBIANS ARE AWARE OF THE EXTREMITY OF WINTER IN RUSSIA APART FROM THE PRESIDENT (WHO USED TO PARTY THERE IN UNIP DAYS) AND GOVT MINISTERS THEMSELVES, TOO. GOD BLESS THOSE CHILDREN IN RUSSIA. MY HEART IS WITH YOU BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
the govmnt visited russia many times,Mr tetamashimba also visited in 2005 and he promised something shiny 4 the students.but they keep on closing there ears.students are really suffering in russia.if our grz wont pay much atention,our zambia izasebanyika.
awe ine ichifukushi tachilapwa, how dare the govt does this to its own people.very soon they will be chasing for their graduity and all work will come to a standstill as the elections are on the way so compaigns take over.if govt was a person i swear i can shoot him. kaleza.russia is another zimbabwe and you send your friends child to suffer while yours is sleeping in a comfortable bed,has a good job aranged by his father, benefiting from his fathers coruption.there is serious need to improve our education system.everlyn hone is dilapidate beyond discription,i cant think of a college with good sanitation.zibc is gone and we all cant go to zicas which is private and expensive
THANKS # 37
They should stop sending students to Russia. Not only is it expensive, that country has gat murderous “skin heads”. Its not safe to be black.
We nuh go fight for equal rights and justice again, our forefathers done that already…I an I demand equal rights and justice, NOW!
WHAT are the e-mail address for HH and Sata coz they need this.
#10,about 4 yrs back i visited sweden with 2 friends the host group we visited arranged that we visit our embassy in stockholm as it is prestigious for our friends to visit their misions abroad,they thougt it will be for us.to our suprise when we got to the embassy the charged afairs asked us why we visited the embasy,well we thougt it was great to see where our mission in sweden is as we are on tour of nordic countris.without shame he put it upright they were concerned as they are not interested in stranded pipo running to them for help as they are not a charity.i was ashamed but glad that the tour guide just droped us and picked us later and never heard it.imagine what if we were stranded
it’s very easy for you guys out there to say a lot of crap coz you are not in Russia.Russia is Russia and how I hoped the zed gvt understood that.if you are literate enough, then u will agree that Moscow is the most expensive city in the world(don’t show your stupidity here,i said most expensive and that doesn’t mean economically sound) and most russian cities are expensive, e.g St Petersburg and the dollar is falling everyday.the contracts on which the zambian gvt dreams and sleeps over are outdated, to the era when Russia(USSR) was a superpower.as a person who has lived(studying) here for a couple of years, i would suggest the gvt pulls out of this contract IF they DON’T want to review
pliz send us back!
this is serious…. i appeal to all bloggers, let us put our different opinions aside. copy this story and email it to all zambians and people likewise, get the message out, put it on myspace hi-five and facebook, in the subject line make the entire MMD govt look bad, this is what they do to our future, no need for such a long funeral of th elate if kids are hungry, and 5 months ago even LPM knew their plight. this is wrong
those chaps at manda hill dont care for anyone but themselves!!to illustrate a simple case of greed look at how quickly they increased their slalaries but quickly closed UNZA even betraying LPM who was against that increment!!!!
jUST AS WELL WE NEED NEW BLOOD IN THE gOVT -SATA FOR MEANINGFUL CHANGE!!
then all the njovus,muliokelas,wakumelos,katais will be no more!!!
hurrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
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These are the issues that well meaning Zambians and newspapers should be discussing. I hope LT would grow so that it covers issues like these extensively, investigate and report back to the people. The post that we all depended on has lost direction. Its gone really petty, leaving out real issues. Mmembe is now serving his interests and now what the paper stands for. LT can you send your people to govt to find out what they are doing about this matter. We want feedback from offices concerned (Foreign Affairs and Education) not politics from Mulongoti.
Sad indeed brethren. our hearts go flat out to you guys. Zambia will pay u in kind for your sacrifice
This applies also to the Zambian students in Cuba. Last year they stayed for 8 months without being paid their BCs. That was sad since they couldn´t receive any help from Zed.
our government really needs to get serious with taking care of students…we understand whatever other serious issues may need to be dealt with but that is why we have a budget and a contract….so how is the money constantly being delayed. which accountants are holding onto it, or which parliamentarians are cheating when approving the budget. ministry of finance and education…what is going on, students everywhere are complaining, UNZA, CBU, RUSSIA, CUBA even us here in china the situation is not good….scholarships always come more than 2 months late even now we are still waiting
Poor guys. As a university student, i know how it feels when there’s financial neglect. It gets real hard to concentrate on studies or do anything for that matter! Plus, Russia is quite a dangerous place in terms of security for foreign students. The government needs to get serious on issues like these as these are the future HC for Zambia.
SO THERE IT IS…AND U THOUGHT UNZA WAS THE ONLY THING FACING PROBLEMS!! OUR GOVERNMENT HAS ABONDONED OUR FELLOW BROTHAS AND SISTERS YET THESE FOOLS HAVE GAT THERE SALARY INCREASE!!SHAME SHAME SHAME MMD!!!!!
this russia fiasco has been going on for along time now. way back in thew ’80s my cousin was sent to russia he was complaining the about the same situation these innocent zambians are complaining about now. years later my young brother’s friend also went through the same. he and his friends had to sell beer bottles to raise money for food. i almost went to russia but my father said ‘no’ too many bad stories coming from russia. in any case the russian education is not even highly regarded in the world.
#54 the education system in russia does not even make sense,the russian language is even hell to the international community.please stop this scholarship because i see no futer in it.it is like we are going back to the soviet era.
Wawa! Why do people get exited with going to Russia or wherever? Here I am at home having it all! You’ll freeze to death makaka! You thought Russia was heaven. Just find a ticket back home and enroll at CBU mu forestry limbi kuti bakusala. ‘The devil you know…’!
Number 3 (Tonga Bull)! it is clear from your comments that you never went to Unza even if you wished so much. I can see this from your frustrations in your comment. Unza courses are very much up-to-date and very competetive. I have had the chance to be educated at Unza and further in a developed country where students only go to university to chat and work in cafes. There is no seriousness, they pass exams because the lecturer tells them all that is expected in the exam. You also seem to be a fool anyway, compare your comments to others.
asembe sembe isebenza………….
this govt has lost it. why send them to russia? wht are we going to lean from there? Artic biology? Economcommunism?
why not send them to england or the usa? or better sesolve UNZA crisis?
to you in russia, just hang in there.
remember, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
Ba Tonga Bull Tamwakawata amano(3.Tonga Bull – UK)you can not insult your institutions in your own country first you should understand the background the University of Zambia, how they raised the money to built that institution correct if I wrong at that every zambian was asked to contribute something either in kind or money, the patrotism which shown at that time you can not believed, people came in unison to help, some had to give what they had left with nothing just to see that we have a high institution of learning today you come to insult the very institution what has made to go to UK. Please bakalamba twapapata kuleni mumano.
This is wreckless abandonment o the part of the government ad I hope these kids get in cotanct with a smart lawyer to sue these fools calling themselves a government. And then you really wonder that this is the same gang of people who only recently awarded themselves hefty allowances and pay rises leaving our kids to the woes of the Russian racists and vicious winters. This is criminal!
First of ,these guys are in the wrong country.worsestill,we don’t need these russian degrees.
what legacy do you talk about??? and some people are so proud of this government wonder what they see and refer to cos these are the real issues and govt has failed lamentably in the education sector
times like these make meappreciate super ken,he built the only university we have and the 0.5 of a university we call cbu
I wish one of the studients had a relative from ministries abroad
its so sad that students are going thru a tough time out there and yet money is being wasted here in zambia,,honestly its not very easy to earn a living a foriegn land especially russia were racism is still high.if goverment cant manage let them bring the students back home instead of subjectig them to harsh condtions,very soon u will hear of students engaging in pay tv activities
I am saddened by such news from our fellows in Russia. I concur with all you guys up here. LT or anybody who has access to the pipo that matter at The Post or Times of Zambia, please copy this article and hand it to them with love! Let them send it to print and all other blogs! Shame on…who is the ambassador to Russia again? Shemuna bane, shame!
#57 and 59 – you know very little and even the little you know, you know it badly. UNZA started off as a very good institution but its standards soon eroded and was scrapped off from the list of the best 100 universities in Africa. University of Botswana is better rated than UNZA. According to Prof, Mwauluka’s recent comments; inability to change and revise courses has been one of the major causes of the decline. Let’s not yield to the false confort of appeasing yourselves because we’re Zambians – the fact is that UNZA is in a bad state in every way and needs a complete overhaul. Burying your heads in the sand will not change the situation. Call a spade by its rightful name.
#63 careful you shall be lynched by the CBU guys…did you check out the other blogs here…oh bantu bakalipa
#51 booza yako, kuti even now? Just recently the chinese govt increased your scholarship ukamba vicani?
#13 you are right. It’s high time Govt decided to invest in improving local institutions to reach international standards unlike sending students to foreign lands like Moscow and later abandon them. We’re now told they go to extreme measures in order to survive, only God knows what extreme measures they go to. We’ve enough resources like the ones being wasted towards the hefty allowances for the so called CRC committee etc. but because this is a govt full of misplaced priorities, we look on and wonder if things will ever change. It appears the old wigs up there can’t exercise their God given ability to reason 4 the better! Students in Russia, Hard Luck there’s no Govt in place here!
#63 Uyichefye sana, waumfwa? Wiso alipangapo nangu ni ka Kindergarten? CBU has managed to produce me! Do you know who I be?
#67. Yet I support your idea but its the same old chaps like mwauluka who has made the institution go down. They got their education 40-50 years ago and they still believe they are the best yet they can’t change with modern technology. So if these old prof. and lecturers are phased out and new generation of young men and women takes over, I am sure UNZA will come back to its level. But as long as these old guys don’t retire or comes back on contract because they have nowhere to go, standards at UNZA will continue going down until it becomes a secondary sch. Some old lectures can’t even open the email or surf the net or some literally do not know any software in their courses.
#54 Chibuluma ati shani!
this is really sad and a complete failure by our own goverment….shame on this minister of education for not bringing these compalaints to light and solve them….
jah will be done
I’m speechless and very sad for our brothers and sisters
Do feel for the guys in Russia,dispite all this…we´ve our own UNZA closed and the Gov´t is looking at them pockects to be full with the increaments that will be coming up once MMD wins.Trully MMD is full og wolves…Abash…………The HOUR has come for all you radom politricks ministers to go!!!!!!!!!!
As earlier indicated in my blogs, i feel it is time for the Zambian government to come up with ever lasting solutions on the management of local and foreign students. Why is it that there is money for other things, but nothing for student fee and other allowances?????. If i was the president of Zambia, I would reduce the number of ministrial positions and instead invest more in education, health, agriculture and security.
# 3, either you failed or never even went to UNZA. why this hatred? who told you unza offers trash courses? u call library studies a useless course? any way, i have been to unza and other universities too. we are simply a no push over coz the data we got while at unza has made us solid steel citizens.
u are the type that just washes old pipos asses and claim u are enjoying pa uk. Are u the only jew in zambia who is abroad? not at all, just look at the plethora of foreign flags and u will realize how foolish you are to comment ill on unza.
WELCOME TO RUSLAND THIS PROBLEM OF ALLOWANCES WILL NEVER STOP IN 2002 WE STAYED FOR MORE THAN 7 MONTHS WITHOUT CASH (STIPENDI) JUST GROUP UP TO SURVIVE BUT WHEN THE MONEY CAME WE BECAME THE TALK OF THE TOWN IT WAS TOO MUCH THAT STUDENTS STOP GOING FOR LECTURES MY ADVISE JUST BE STRONG ITS ZED GOVT YOU WILL SOON FINISH AND GO BACK
This is a clear testimony of govt without clear policies meant to address important issues. if UNZA can close indefinitely due to some petty reasons, what more those students in Russia who can’t even afford a peaceful demonstration to air their grievances. You think a minister back here would waste his time think about them? Forget! If UNZA can close for 3 months then expect them to suffer for 3 years. It’s a lesson to all of you electorates, each time you go to cast your votes, analyze who’re ushering into office. What is their manifesto on developmental issues. don’t just vote for someone coz u come from the same village. These are prices we’ll paying for wrongly exercising our rights!
Sad development is’t the Government ashemed to award itself huge salaries at the cost of priority sectors like education. This Government is insenstive. Some of us spent six (6) years at UNZA doing a programme that was supposed to be completed within four years.
Its really reading, surely the Govt knows very well how hard life is in Russia and the least they can do to abandon the students. Despite all these hardships, they will still manage to complete their studies and the same stupid Govt that has abandoned them wil be saying come back home to serve the country even when there are no jobs. Please the next Ubuteko twapapata poseniko amaano kuli education. Chansoni saana to our Govt!
I have an idea, why not collect signatures (lobby/petition)on behalf of our brothers and sisters in Russians and present to the speaker of the national assembly.
LT, can you help with this?
it’s funny!!!!!!!! go go HH & Sata.
#72 Paul Gazza Moscow you are so dull thats why you have overstayed in Russia from 2002 up to now.the russian system has brainwashed you.go back home to develope Zambia not just being a prostitute i know you personaly.Thats why that girl left you for a Nigerian guy.Grow up ba kalamba!!!!!!!!!
Yes I agree with you Tongo Bull the UNZA started at a good sounding note no doubt about that.But what are we doing to change the situation to aleast acceptable standard. I thing you are learned enough to offer some solution to this problem. I say so insulting the institution in your own will not change any thing, but to accept the things are not okey, then try to work out some posibilities on how you can come out this situation. this come to how do we vote? who do we put in position of responsibility. THINK on these my brother.
#85, we are talking about 400 students and not a Mr Paul Gazza alone. Pls be wise.
shame to mother zambia,you are starving us to death while you are busy doing corruption in those gorvernment office,soon the truth will catch up with you!!!
Pliz any1 to take this matter to influential citizens. we opened skools 2 weeks ago,our visas are renewed very academic year upon registration, due to lack of money i have not registered for this academic year and i have to pay $250 for late registration, i cant be allowed to attend classes and even if i go and complain to them and they let me attend classes, i cant even buy a transport card and my university is very far from the hostel just like every1 studyin here……I am slim and skiny therefore i dont fall in russian old sugar mummies’ taste so that i have sex with them for money, i am always in my dilapidated room cryin 4 my dead parents 2 talk 2 God 4 me….i am confussed, goin mad!
#86 I hear you my brother
How do you expect people like lungwangwa to care about the plight of students sent to study in russia and the students at our universities, when the useless man denied fathering his own child, who am so sorry to mention that the child is a carbon copy of himself.
Note to self: Never allow any relative or friend’s child to apply for Russian scholarship. Better to sponsor her/him to do homecraft at local trades school. Its really a shame that govt continues to ship our youth to russia (and why do their parents let them go??). Apart from the security, weather and financial problems, the education there has always been known to be SUBSTANDARD. Apart from ending up as alcoholics (the type that shake when they havent taken beer), most russian graduates are poor perfomers in the working world. They are usually the first to be retrenched by serious companies
The story is pretty sad altogether. But my fellow country youths, the best u can do for now is not rush to go abroad in the name of education with hopes of getting the best u can imagine only to end up porn stars, street kids/venders or robbers in order to sustain urselves whilst abroad stranded. Work hard and get good grades to get into one of our own instituions. A degree is a degree and a diploma is a diploma regardless of where it was obtained. U just must perform in industry, period. I was strained by UNZA and have out performed chaps from Manchester and the likes. They are just names bane.
Good luck
#71 professors never retire, even in Britain, you will find them lecturing as long as they have strength. What UNZA needs is not to retire old professors but to find money to pay off debts, and to change the management system. They should come up with a way of making working graduates pay for student loans they had acquired and then pump the money into the institution.
These students in Russia,how did they attain the scholarships?This could be the reason why government is failing to send them money.They might have gone there through back doors.
#36. You have made me laugh. Ati Mulongoti promised the students something shiny – ahahahah. I even remember Shaka zulu. May Henry Cele’s soul (actor of Shaka zulu) rest in peace.
#89- i feel you…i wished i could help, how can i?
#94. My friend, right now I am teaching at a University here and professors I have seen professors retire unless they are just doing purely research and no teaching. But how many professors at unza do research which brings money to unza. Here one professor could have 5-10 phd students and over 20 masters students with over $2m worth of money brought to the university. How many unza professors bring even K100pin to unza, zero. These people should retire and bring in new bloody with modern methods of raising resources for such institutions.
KK was the only guy who had the zambians at heart now no one seems to care any more.
It is Russia when one is not yet there, get there and you see what its all about. i wouldn’t encourage anyone to study there its better you study pa Hone,Nrdc,Chainama or Mulele mwana at charles Lwanga parish in Chilenje if you can’t get a place at Unza or Cbu coz that Russian degree won’t take you anywere not even Russia itself once you finish you studies in the cold you to go back home and work and the story will be like that of aPhiri ana bwela kuchokela ku halele.
Actually the big problem is that our government uses Zambian timing. Here it doesn’t work. You miss registration by a day, that’s it, you pay 5000 rubles =$200. Evereybody was expected to complete the registration by 1st September. You don’t buy materials, you lag behind, no one waits for you. And you are busy filling your pockets with hefty allowances. While government is asleep it is vital to keep the education sector running for both UNZA and students abroad. Our country will one day be embarassed beyond recognition. We don’t wish to become crooks like Nigerians. We don’t even demonstrate, we always dialog with our embassy.
VOTE WISELY.
THANK YOU…
fyasokoloka lelo there is education attach at the embassy in moscow
Now if dialog is the most intelligent and civillised way of handling these issues it should be seen to produce results. So far little or nothing has been done to correct our situation. Is the government asking us to use the UNZA method of demonstration, boycott and viva? Because it seems UNZA students use the rough way to get their voices heard, and it works. Too much money is being wasted and mischannelled to corrupt practices and allowances, instead of investing into education.
fyasokoloka lelo there is no education attach at the embassy in moscow
Sorry guys, I hope someone can do something immediately. Lets vote wisely NOW.
# 85 YOUNG STUDENT YOU DONT KNOW ME ASK THE PEOPLE IN ROSTOV THEY WILL TELL YOU WHO I AM !I DON’T WORK FOR RUSSIANS I REPRESENT OUR FAMILY SHARES IN A VERY BIG COMPANY AND MIND YOU ITS NOT A RUSSIAN OWNED CAMPANY HERE IN MOSCOW .ASK YOUR EMBASSY IN MOSCOW I KNOW YOU DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO EAT IT HAPPENS JUST CAME TO MOSCOW I MIGHT ASSIST YOU
#98 Well said. Our professors at UNZA don’t even run any meaningful projects to rake in cash for the institution and publish papers. On the UNZA website, it appears that only one man (some Pro. Chidumayo)has published a paper or two in the last two years. Gentlemen, professors and doctors at universities like Cambridge and Oxford pump in more cash into their institutions than they get out because they’re active and ingeneous. Let’s not be too sentimental about UNZA and sing praises for the institution when we know very well that it’s going under. My parents donated a cow towards the construction of that institution and I hate seing it run down by old men who have outlived their usefulness.
How did these guys find themselves there. Are supposed they were too dull to be accepted at UNZA or CBU or flanked at Zambian institutions then migrated to Russia, because I think Zambian Education is better although we’ve passed through some rough patch of late. Imagin, learning in Russian and working later on in Zambia. Anyway, I feel for you. Hope you are not using bottom power to survive.
# 85 BY THE WAY I JUST COMPLETED LAST YEAR WENT TO ZAMBIA WORKED AND I WAS MOVED TO MOSCOW BECAUSE OF MY RUSSIAN LANGUAGE
GET MY ADVISE IN RUSSIA WITHOUT YOUR FAMILY SUPPORT YOU WILL NOT GO VERY FAR TRY TO ASK FOR SOME MONEY FROM HOME THE STIPENDI IS JUST TOO LITTLE TO SURVIVE.
ESK if we were so fcuking brainy how come u r blogging with dander heads shouldnt u be somewere , maybe in a meeting of some sort dealing with people who are like u.
Sorry for the guys, Russian winter is dreadful. Well, at least this matter has come out in the open so that everybody knows. Government do something about it now, please.
#109 ESK ASK PROF LUO ABOUT THE RUSSIAN EDUCATION
I studied on a govt. scholarship and recently completed. This problem is everywhere where there are Zambian students and the real issue is that people are not informed when the money has been released. This creates a loophole as it allows the embassies to start playing tricks with the money.
In many instances the money is sent from Zambia but the embassy holds on to it for its own reasons.
In January they blame the budget, for the rest of the year they claim they have no money. Blame the family tree as they are the ones in most of the embassies
A government which fails to bugdet for 400 students only.I wonder !!
During our days there in Moscow the allowance from home was just for leisure. Are you not geting anything from the Russian gov. because you are sponsored by the Russian gov. Give people the right information and full information.How much are you geting from the Russian scholorship.
You are saying you are you not paid for five months but the delay is just one month since you get your money quartery.
Talk to your education attach there in Moscow. Why write this rubbish here?
Dobly dane, fiso harosheva.
#116 THE SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT YOU DONT GET ANY ALLOWANCES FROM THE RUSSIAN GOVT THEY ONLY GIVE ABOUT $60 EVERY MONTH TO THE STUDENTS WHO GET THE BEST RESULTS AT THE END OF THE SEMESTER.
Dr chituwo minstr of health, prof Kandu luo and presidential aspirant Sata ( moscow) got educated frm russia and kno very well the way of life here , cant they do somethng about it sure ?
# 116 you dont know what you are saying.trust me you are an old fox
#116 u are stupid,u dont know anything,maybe ku embassy kuli ba bululu bako so they where just giving u pocket money.i think u’re lying,u’ve never been to russia.one zambian girl was chased here coz of uhule,2 years ago.
# 116 you are not being fair trust me.if you need first hand information just ask
ABANDON YOUR STUDIES IN RUSSIA INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PULL THROUGH. LOOK AT OTHER PROSPECTS IN OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES OR JUST GO BACK HOME.
#122 DONT YOU KNOW THAT IT IS FREE EDUCATION WHERE IN EUROPE CAN YOU GET SUCH AN OPPOTURNITY EVERY YEAR ZAMBIA SENDS ABOUT 60 STUDENTS TO RUSSIA.
This is from a friend in Russia “boi just imagine,baku zimbabwe recieve salaries on time but they have a lot of problems,rwanda,burundi and zaire just imagine”
Ba FORMER, dont say things from without. U should dig facts first.Im sure when u where there in Soviet Union the cost of living was cheap and Zambian Govt was paying well. Now there is nothing 4 free in Russia (Westenised),students are paying not less than $70 4 accomodation, transport costs,Medical insurance, food prices have gone up & etc. How can you budget on a monthly allowance of $200 dollars when average cost of living is $400 dollars thats when u are eating Beans and no breakfast everyday in cold country.ANd TO THAT IGNORANT CHAP who is saying Russian Education Useless? Russian Graduates-Dr Chituwo,Prof NKANDU, Sata, Minister of Commerce, MDs etc.sympathize with students
What a shame .. Vote MDD out they have failed.
Someone should be arrested for miss using the money… all those who want to go to Russia, think twice about it before you go… you honestly trust government to send you some where and pay for up keep…
#116 #116 #116 #116 ?116 you are a very very big fooul its like you dont know whats happening. before you say something better try and ……………….
Students from Russia, dont entertain those Government Officials who comes to Russia and claim that they have come to address issues you are facing.They just want to enrich themselves by getting travelling allowances and continue living confortbly on tax payers money.
I remember selling bottles of beers just to buy myself a pamela and a packet of beans and raise tranport money and moving in cold weather without breakfast.
These scholarships are meant for intelligent guys but dont have finances to pay for education. How do you expect parents from Kalingalinga etc to send money to europe for a child?
Guys work hard no matter the situation.
#128 Am enjoying the discussion.Look at the issue at hand don’t insult. I know what it means to be in Moscow. All what I wanted is for the complainant to give us more information for which other people have done so. Now you can continue discussing.Please give proper advise.
i sold Empty bottles for survive.
Goverment should give prospective students first hand information and of course some prospective students will go ahead because we only have two major universities in Zed for everyone to enroll and 99% of the matatrials (text books) at same universities are outdated.
Scholarships for U.K , USA and other good countries are given to those chaps or sons of big people in zambia and not on merit.
shame to people in higher authority
#116 u are a big fool , don`t comment on things you dont know you asslock what do u know about the country at present are u using fingers to type or ur ass, u jealous peace of paper ur brain is blocked and u have no heart. shame on u i wish u could think before commenting on such issues ..u son of a person,,, most likely that person is past… who brought u on earth,i hate u for ur less thinking…get off here and find a place where u can say selfish things.God be with u and good luck with ur stupidity..
Am told my former hostel in mikluxo msklaya is now a bank is it true?
I think its good that this has come to light about these guys in Russia.It would even be good to send the same story to the other papers in Zambia, such as the post, times and daily mail.The papers that many people read. This is the time of elections some parties or even government could use it for the polictics for attack and counter attack.Then some promises can come up and an agreement can be made that will last the test of time.
#113, I’ve friends who flanked at CBU/UNZA and left for Russia but I being a genious survived CBU/UNZA and graduated. Didn’t have to go to some country learn in some language. When we wanted something done, we went Jambo or kuchiVivula as some guys would put it. I was in a meeting that why I’ve taken long to respond and I’m going into another one. Cheers, all the best in your pursuit of your allowances. We’re paying alot if tax for your guys education.
As former students of that place these are the issues which we are supposed to make a follow up with the power that maybe, but now we are so disorganised. I remember attanding just one meeting of former students. Pleased can we get organised and assist our colleagues who are still there.
MANY AFRICAN STUDENTS ARE STRANDED IN RUSSIA.I SAW ONE ARTICLE ABOUT NAMIBIAN STUDENTS ALSO ABANDONDED BY THEIR GOVT.VOTE WISELY ZAMBIANS(AFRICANS)
Epa ku bwela. Russia kwisa? Its not even a black-man friendly country!
Ba tonga bull, call yourself a tonga fool. outdated courses your ass. the very people who sent you there are here working and thinking their asses while you are busy shooting, hustling, getting D+’s, stripping in gay clubs, begging in the streets of uk and staring at the snow like a 6 year old. mind your childish language and show some gratitude and respect for your country men and UNZA. VIVA UNZA MONKS!!!!!
Sad affair, sad development. I pity the fellows. It needs noble heads in the management of this countries affairs to seriously look into the affairs of these Zambians suffering in a foreign land. I know our govt is able to resolve this issue well. Govt does listen to every genuine cry like this case. Dear students just perservere for a while things will be well with you soon.
Try Botswana, South Africa or Namibia. They are your neighbours and have the best universities in the world south africa in particular
Sad affair, sad development. I pity the fellows. It needs noble heads in the management of this country’s affairs to seriously look into the welfare of these Zambians suffering in a foreign land. I know our govt is able to resolve this issue well. Govt does listen to every genuine cry like this case. Dear students just perservere for a while things will be well with you soon. It does not to sabaila over such serious issues. we need to put our heads together highlight possible solutions to the problem at at hanbd and then appeal to the forces that may.
Zambians, Lets avoid to be just a very good talking society and be practical
Musoma chani ku Russia naimwe!
These chaps in Russia must be truthful. What normally happens in Russia is that the students get their money every three months. Upon getting it ninshi nomba Vodka nilekaleka. Ninshi calila muma club. They then get broke within a week. On top of that the bulk of the funding comes from the Russian government. I left that place in 2004 and nobody will tell me that students there live at the edge of existence. When did things change? Yes sometimes there are delays in payments but not to the extent that students would resort to other means. In our time, i.e four years ago, those of us who where prudent with our money managed to save and moved to the UK there after. Baiche be serious with life
The Zambian students in Russia appear to be suffering either because the Zambian government is not giving them allowances OR because the students are blowing through their allowances. 400 Zambian students in Russia alone! There are probably thousands of Zambian students worldwide being supported by the Zambian government. The solution to all this is to take the students home and educate them in Zambia. We have to have faith in our own education system, restructure it, and keep our students in Zambia.
SEE how st***d u r , they milk your hard earned cash and yet u are not concerned as to what happens to that money and you call urself a graduate! very SHAMEFULL, next time try to be usefull in ur comments and act ur graduate shoe size.
#144 which part of Russia were you in? Or maybe you’ve got links with those up there?? 4yr is quite a long period of time. I would advise you to review your funny comment, Don’t you know that even the poorest russian can afford vodka?
Dear bloggers,let us nt run away frm the topic at hand.I do nt agree wit some bloggers who r saying russian education is useless cz i kno alot of russian graduates who r doing well in society eg prof chirwa,prof kandu luo,Dr chituwo etc.The issue is abt our govt failling to finance us.U cn nt compare russian education to tht of our colleges bak home.We got the scholarship on merit basis.here the thing is if a student wants to get knoweledge he wil surely get it and on the other hand its very easy to get spoiled cz thers too much life like beer and easy russian women.I personally hv acquired some knowledge frm here and i appreciate jus our govt which has let us down in so many areas.
#148 i agree with you my brother.Those people who are saying Russian Education is useless are either insane or the are not okay upstairs. I will advise them to buy FOOD FOR BRAIN in the chemists so that they can clean their brains (Ukusuka Ubongo).
Russia has produced best graduates like Prof Luo Nkandu, Prof Chirwa (known figure world wide), Sata, Minister of Commerce,Dr Chituwo (Health Min) and even myself as An Economist with a big position in Zambian Society.
So Russia is not a wrong destination if government can fully support the students they send that side.
lets be very productive zambians do we need a civil war for us to think like most of our counter parts who’ve gone through misery and have hence ganined discpline..
those zambian in russia are suffering and we need our government to move in help them out..most of you bloggers are graduates but you seem to not finished you thesis hence fish like behavour….
BTW we shud evenn stop entertainin these MInisters when the com here promising us goodies and yet they jst care abt wat the r goin to get afta this…
baiche bonse come back and start new programs at NRDC coz zed is in need of more farmers.
Somebody do something.
people for arguments sake lets say you have brains and that is why you are in russia.but one thing is for sure if my father sent me to abroad and promises to send me money!!!! i would first look at how much he earns and what his commitments are.then i can factor my cost into his expenditure.
realistically speaking i don,t expect him to afford to send me 6mitres every month!!!!
you guys are fortunate enough to have been afforded this opportunity to study “ABROAD”,what you should do is grow up and realise that money won’t come and come up with solutions.
either seat and wait or get out of there,which ever way you chose remember every action has consequences,which one can you live with?
My special advaice to the goverment is to stop this scholarship programme .
PAUL GAZA AND NO 154 U ALL senseless
#56 we descern your frustration at having gone to CBU,its one the best learning institutions in the country,so don’t fret,its not worth it.And please don’t spread that negative energy around as hearts are boiling ,people are suffering and there are killing us.By the way,300 years after i die,my grade 12 results will still qualify as entry requirements at Unza,CBU and the world over.Elo ubelenga chani wamene iwe?
It comes back to what i have been telling all you my countrymen and women….
The old system and the old people who have served in these old systems should all go.
How that will be achieved is by me and you to be the government of tomorrow(2011),let them be for now though we are sick and tired of their non progressive ideologies.
So let us organise oursleves as the elite young Zambians who knows what this country needs and save our nation.
I have never known a nation that does not value education of its citizens as ours at present.
I mean go to harvard right now,its full of chinese scholars because that country knows the value of education,hence sends its cream there.Why not Zambia.
Just send us back home so we once again feel the love from our mothers,fathers ,brothers and sisters.This scholarship programme is only exposing students to psychology torment,in depth engrained fear and open rascism making us feel less of a person.Russia to every average Zambian student is like a prison with open walls were every questions what you do ,say and asks you why you are black.Please send us back home!!!!!!!!!!
##159 wseetyrich my boy the cbu boys are dreamers…its me mr super mega uk will be back soon!!!
one shocking thing is there are billions of kwacha sitting in zanaco yet retirees die without benefits,students are not taken care of,but when someone dies from over weight and over eating related diseases they are so quick to release funds.evry end of year you hear of how much ZANACO unclaimed kwachas by govt dept has. i just cant understand our leadership.they have failed my brains,champesha amano.
It is irresponsible for the GVT to do such a thing.Its like a father who ditches his family into the bush.Can please somebody do something
where did LT get this information??? These people should get their facts right before printing such things and misleading their readers. I thought this was a credible paper, but am really disappointed with printing lies. I am a zambian student in Russia, and though it is really hard to survive because of the meager allowances and the high cost of living here, the government has never gone for six months without paying us. Our allowances are just two weeks late, for we were supposed to get them on the 1st of september, 2008.
This is the RB and late Mwanawasa government. How do you expect them to take care of students abroad if they cannot even care about students across Great East Road from Parliament? These guys have scammed your minds about good governance, but have done bull crap about what matters, Education, Health, Job Protection, and Sanitation. The only part they have done good is personal economies. Ask Maureen how they got that Palabana Farmer. That was UNZA land. You guys will always praise Levy and RB because they managed to divert your attention to FTJ and they moved everything while you’re asleep. What they have done is CRIMINAL.
NKANDU WAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?
I thought we a union president here in moscow, but he is been paid to be on the side of the govt. wat a pitty. Am now gonna fire him.
#164 if your richparents sends you money to make those silly comments to LT then you dont know what you are talking about!
interesting blogging! guys lets be truthful, Nkandu is right! we r only 2 weeks late. guys lets grow up en not blow up and spread stories out of proportion. the situation does get bad here, the allowances hardly surfices! and about the renewal of the bilateral agreement, i think its been long over due. about education being out of date, knowledge is knowledge only when u can apply and improve on it. its not about the place where u get it. Russia is a power house in not only europe, but the world @ large! of the past 6yr moscow en russia has seen an upgrade in many areas. economically they doing well. the problems we face are home based, only racism en the weather r russo cozed!
where is the money going?
GRZ STOP RUSSIAN SCHOLARSHIPS
THEY ARE PATHETIC
its everywhere!even students in china are facing the same.this government must do something,ok!
Shame on you GRZ nyandules
Guys learn to appreciate the little the Zambian government is going for you. Some of us never even got a single reply to the application of scholarship or bursaries. Just do whatever you can to survive and sustain yourselves. I don’t think you are the 1st and definitely will not be the last. All the best in your studies and well being. Peace
the table:
(1) in 2005 the us dollar was approx- US 1 to 29 publes
(2) in 2006 approxi US 1 to 27 rubles
(3) in 2007 approxi- US 1 to 25 rubles
(4) in 2008 the first four months US 1 to 22 rubles and now 25 rubles 1 dollar.
thats fine, there is economical change in russia guys. in three years ago the allow. money was ok.however, we are getting the same money regardless……..Education here is fine, one can benefit but GRZ should do something.
Testing
Dear Students!
Remember a hungry man is an angry man.Do not disclose everything about you to the World otherwise you mighty expose yourself,and this mighty cost you in your job hunting and social life after skool.
zambian students in algeria facing a similar problem too!!!
on government sponsorship not through backdoors or what,bc
#177 bakaamba ba advisor mwa lasa!!!!!we need wise people like you in zambia PLEASE PLEASE COME BACK!!!
My fellow student, I know we are all pissed. but to whom are we addressing this matter? to ourselves? None of these BC workers has even read this. Its better to write a letter to acting President. I know how to contact him. So what do you want me to include in the letter?
Talking about which University or Country is the best I think this is dependant upon Individual effort and capabillity,afterall when you come from skool,you are only trainnable and not trainned.
Please bring them back if you can’t feed them. why shud they come back with AIDS instead of A’s. the same thing is happening at UNZA little pocket money and the girls end up doing the unthinkable (even boys)are being picked by Gay whites just to make ends meet, you saw it it in the paper last year
Am snipping ma coffee)) anybody wanna ask wen are we get our cash?
No 181 you are right,in that you have acknowleged communication skills.Imagine you are a manager and disclosing your problems even to casuall workers!
Mr advisor, you seem wise, so you run away from zed to da usa? or u are a student there? the reason why you are talkiing good is that u are enjoying over there. Come to Russia.,
I ok mr advisor I will shut up. Because am just trying to help my fellow students, myself am not affected by the Govt in anyway, got money. how I get its my business. So mr Advisor do like wise
No 186. Malodoi chilaveki ya tam bwill.
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# 189 i meant i was there- that’s Russian
Guys if u want to leave wellin Russia:
1. Make sure yo parents will be sending u some money atleast once in three months.
2. Make sure dont drink coz u will end up being broke,VODKA!!!
2. Only go there when u want to do technical (technology,like IT)coz those guys are advanced courses not Accounts coz its the same napa Zed.
Time to put those cabinet salary increases on hold.
awe
We told them to be econimical
Nkandu is right
#194 mrs ndlovu so when r we gattin paid??? wat economical r u talkin abt when u also complain that russia is way to expensive for u as diplomats
How can you economise 200$ in moscow, is this woman(Mrs Ndlovu) a villager? She doesn’t even do anything for the betterment of the students. YOU serious madam.?
I want the world to see this, this woman the Govt sent to moscow can’t even write a full senstence in english.its a shame ))) Get the student the money, if they die , what are you gonna tell BUSH and OBAMA
#198,you are right,though its a pity that such inconherent irresponsible feats of nepotism still exist within the high auspices of delicate and sensitive foreign service.Incompetance is not a name to give it,but the woman is naive that capacity building is the best prescription in everything she does. And its not only in Moscow,people like her(MMD party cadres)who just fell on a lucky break are there at most Zed missions.Don’t hate me am just saying it the way it is and i ain’t scared!!hola if you hear me!!
stop spending money on beer and women
# 163 must be right. #172 why wanting to sound knowledgeable when all you are doing is spreading lies? What are the students facing in china?
Talking of spending on beer and women, A Zambian student in moscow can’t even manage to have a blonde girl, 200$ is not enough to even buy a cup of tea during break time in universities in month. Mrs Ndlovu why are trying to show that students spend their money careless, its their fault, Your job you( GOVT) is to pay them on time, what they do with their moneys is their problem. The fact is give these kids money on time on they will always keep quiet
Why is my name been mentioned? the president and I ve same names,,watch your steps guys, you don’t know who you are messing with, I will track you down. Come and get your moneys (your changes) next week you sons of men and women. you should have respest for elders. Ok those who want to be sent should rise up theirs hand.
#194 how can you be economical with $200.the minimum (monthly) market basket per person in saint-petersburg is 9500 rubbles($430).and just to make you aware these is the amount of money a low income indvidual requires to buy food.
Ba zed twafweni ichipowe chatwikata kuno tulefwa ba Sata iseni bwangu tulemi supporter!!!! Ba aunt fakani koni nzelu(am saying ba Mrs Njovu)why ba gelo na bukoko we have not forgotten our shake-shake n nkhwazi pa zed we are here for sku only.Naimwe ba monku bapa ZIT nimizibani shut your mouths naine nenze pa CBU but i didn’t like it then i chose something more medical becoz pa UNZA i was not accepted.Mubikeko amano bonse ba CBU we want to come and serve our ziko lamutendele (Zambia)
Kellies Kapusu
St_Petersburg
Russia
The GOVT should not forget that “imiti iikula empanga”. Therefore,the way they are treating the students right now,is
exactly the way the students will treat them when they become pensioneers.So please mind the way you treating these students
otherwise your bad policies will catch up with you.
future president
moscow
Russia
why do u complain by cheatin which government did not pay u for 6months r u sure guys b real. learn to appreciate
#207 may God bless you
ONE ZAMBIA, ONE NATION!!!!!!
HMMMM!!
Yes, its very true $200 a month is a joke! Lets pray the next “LPM” will look into our plight, and increase the allowances to a decent amout!
I find difficulty it to understand why GRZ students in other countries(e.g Turkey) got their $200 allowances for May-August 2008 and all the previous months.Though, yes, from time to time they do delay. There is not way Bursaries Committee(BC) can channel allowances to other students in other Countries and leave out Russia.
Thats the problem with zambian leaders,we like defending our inefficiency in work by threatening each other.when a problem comes,we dont think about the solutions to that problem,but we think about how to punish the complainant.We have to change if we wish to progress as a country.
reply to comment ?203,
moscow
Russia
#207,our basis for complain is forthright as govt was four months late in payment,last time.Its only prudent we raise our voices incase of anything with the elections coming up,who kinows ,maybe our semptember allowances will be paid in november or december and with the coming winter twafwa nishi.
reply to coment144
Russia has now changed,from 2005-2008 prices at the market
hav increased by more than 150%. e.g in 2005 our staple food bread
in russia costed 4-5 pubbles but now bread is 17-20 pubbles,cooking oil was 27 but now its 50-85,but the gov has mentained the same $200 from that time.not only that,the medical policys are only used for a doctor to describe the medicine and not buying.
Above all,its quite intresting that the russian ambasador comented
that “i tell them to iconomise”.this clear shows that she is also not happy with the govnts atitude.
Guys don’t be like that
hmmmmm……………bana Ndlovu! i think this is not the place en time 4 u to put ur viewpoints! thats if its really u! dont lower urself this low madam! u r a GRZ representative, act like 1!
bana njovu,how can we economise when the money we get cannot cater for our basic needs??????think twice ,you are here to serve us and not to block us from express our grievances.why cnat you sent the mssge to the government of the harsh environment n economy being experienced here???????we will move to your house if we dont get monies by end of september.its interesting to note that in other countries where they r government students on scholarships get their allowances earlier than those in russia,whats the criteria,do you put our monenie in your accounts???????
bana njovu when our getting our allowances????????your administration has to be ashamed,during the time of mrs mporokoso such delays were not there.why is it so now mr katai,mrs njovu get to start doing your jobs,your beef burgers wont make us quiet.we want to be paid on time plus increament.hear our cries
the problem of you zambians is that u dont like to face the reality.dont talk about the characters of students.talk of the problem they have.and you miss njovu mind the way u talk.u are here to serve us but not to act in that way.we are responsible students.
220-you r right.you gossip too much instead of doing your work.no wonder our country continues to lag behind coz of such people like you in the administration,as a diplomat why are u responding through this blog ,respond thru ur office.by the miss njovu-am offering computer lessons and russian language-500 rubs per hour,contact me on this line 89507704013
Expect radical change in the way business is done in Zambia. All this nonsense concerning renumerations will be history. One Zambia, One Nation. 2030-2050 will be our time to rule!
Iam extremely disappointed with our current Govt.Why send students in Russia and then starve them.Come 2030 I will be in control of the economy and every zedian will be happy.
Monse apa mu panga che chongo- mungo zipontela mweka-mweka, when the people who can make a difference will see none of this.
Kwena muli bangwele.
It is not true that students in Russia had not been paid for six months. First of all all the students under Bursaries Committee in all countries are paid at the same time. To this end therefore, all students including over 350 in Russia were paid up to August,2008. It was done in time for the graduating students who are already in the country.
Let the complaints be genuine so that genuine comments are made for better solutions. Comments are based on misinformation.
The next set of money has been sent for September to December, 2008. Students are paid on four months intervals.
ARHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The secreatry to the bursaries committee.we appreciate the help that you render to us and as zambians we are hoping to come back and contribute to the development of our mother land zambia sweet like honey.but we are complaing about the ingnorance that u have proved,the money that u give us is not enough to live here in russia,it can carter only for two months.so will appreciate if u looked at the issue on that angle.
the don is right!!!!!!!!!
is 225 telling the truth????any increaments???remember promised!!!!!!!!
Even poor Zimbabwe pays their students much more..Im ashamed to say the very least.As students in Algeria, we don’t have it really rough…Education here is highly subsidised…Free transport,free accommodation, books are available…But still, the accountant moves at a snails pace when he’s bringing our allowances..Not only that, Gosh, he delays big time.
Come to Australia, where you can work and study, brothers. There are lots of opportunities to climb the ladder here in Australia. Forget Russia.
it’s chtaser for zambian govt to educate us in Russia as the Russia pays our school fees,there i don’t think sending us back will be a good idea.can someone tell them pay us as soon as possible somebody engened part time grug(weed) dealing.
is arrested.
That is the problem when you do not have any of you children laerning in russia.Anyway that is the problem when one is not educated you dont expect to value education the same way at wat grade did you end at is it grade nine o seven.wel am sure it paid off being a party carder.you try living on 200 dollars a month not only moscow but anywhere in russia.if you new how to read the new you wud understand the news you wud know the economy has gone mad. do not not compare us degree holders you are just a certificate holder that is if you also dint get it by being a party carder.MAY GOD FORGIVE AND DELIVER YOU.
AND NOWTHEY SAYED THEY ICRESED THE MONEY …SO THEY CANT GIVE US PLIZ WE ARE HUNGRY
Frank have they increased the allowaces?
Ndlovu you are stupid. How we spend our cheese here is none of your business. why cant I buy a beer or get me a hoe when I need one. Where did you get educated any way. Pa Kanyama? I have the right to complain if those fools in zambia dont send my money after 4 months,thats the agreement we signed with the B.C. What do you know about being a student iwe house wife?
I studied in Russia. Enjoying the fruits of my edu. Was in Russia visiting last july. Feel sorry for the guys. 200$ is a joke. The standard of living has gone up that side that people spend that much in a day. Really. But guys try to get jobs. I used to work in an IT firm even without a permit. It can only bring down your grades, but you learn alot when you work aswell……SITE ADMIN plz reduce font sizes
at last, the money is ready.
we have got the money today!!!!!!!!!!! but………..
Imwe, did they increase your allowance or maybe it’s still $200
That is good news to hear that finally you have received your money. But please budget propery you know that money comes late.
Good luck.
Its dad to note that the students received their money following heavy pleas. This isnt suppose to happen. Basatana mwe buteko poseniko amano. Mwikatwipaila ifibusa mu russia
They didn’t increase ,it’s still $200 per month. It’s not enough. when you try to look presentable you suffer . it’s really bad
I really got disappointed with you students. After all the efforts I put to have your allowances sent in time, none of you couldn’t even give me a $10 to appreciate my efforts. Otherwise the gov’t was planning to send the money in December!
Secondary I want to inform all of you who are writing that im uneducated that I am far much more educated than you are. I have a PhD in Politics which I got in 1986.
I live in this sht and i totally understand. All should take a deep breath and thank the govt for the little we get.
All for the LOve of Education. Kanshi what has gone wrong with our country and the policies they are implemening; education is very key for development and it requires substantial amount of investment. Lungwangwa wa wa!!!!!!
for reall same here in algeria!!!!
This is where y’all Zambians come together and donate at least a dollar each towards these desperate students needs as we await the election process so that they can change stuff. Do not just air these comments here like this.It does not help. Sometimes its not just comments we need on this LT it should be where action can be taken… I am ready to donate
#249 Good point. But you see with the hard financial times in Zambia, do you think all Zambians can afford to donate?? Perhaps you have sacks of money. You might consider donating on behalf of others too!!
sorry and so sad to my fellow students. Lets hope the new government will do you good guys. Atleast with me I study on the net. Maybe you should just come back and study at UNZA or pa net.
I will do something in my power to help one student up there, if you are interested in my help, write to :[email protected]/[email protected]. Thanks for the good work and studies you are doing there, Keep it up thought the government is not doing you good.
you guys please lets stop the madness!!
we all know what student life is like!!!
not any of you students where ever you are based can convince me you are doing well the palin truth is we are ALL STRUGGLING!!!
I have travelled extensively london manchster New york fortworth Kaufman perth you name it n i find te same thing pipo working just to make ends meet!!
I AM STUDYING IN RUSSIA and i am of the view that alot of z_students are very very lazy!!
OPPORTUNITIES ARE there to work i know some zambian students who get as much as 1500$ per month from their work they dont even think about the govt!!!i know maybe in villages like varonezh tver kazan its abit harder but i6s possible to surviv
Just die in the cold.Why didn’t u just go to CBU or UNZA? Ine I have a BSC degree in computer science which I did from CBU and I was on 100% sponsorship.My degree costed me K400,000 kwacha.I used to pay 100 pin per year.Now why couldn’t u guys stay in zed and school from here? I have a job and a car and I pay my bills…..Get back to Zed and improve things here for yoselves..U immigrants
#254, don’t call them immigrants. Am sure you failed to get the scholarship out of Zed. Why the anger?
Who asked you if you have a car?
Useless jobless boy!!!
Mr XXX. Funny how u got your degree. Now I am even doubting if u hav any paper seeing you still have a long way in knowing a word as simple and easy as immigrant.
I can see through you and all you have in you is needless bunch of anger. Probably because something went wrong when you tried to get your scholarship to Russia or wherever.
Don’t hate the Player, hate the play. The best you can try and do is get yourself a life, be successful. I’ ll be glad.
Ba 256…Immigrant=A person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there
Isn’t that the best description for these chaps who had to fly all the way to that cold place and leave CBU and UNZA behind?? U chaps dont know that u sit on riches thats the problem..u want to go learn kufyalo just for prestige.Lwenu,ine am comfortable.
Ba XXX 🙂 Comfortable but very ignorant I see:
“…were not born in order to settle there. ” This part of your statement Mr comfortable degree holder clearly displays your ignorance. . Give me a figure of zambian students who came to Russia and chose to remain ( became imigrants ) Or just a name of such a person because I can give you a endless list of people who completed in Russia and are even more comfortable than you are claiming to be. Not to mention that unlike you, they are literate.
If you do not know, its better you ask or remain silent because then we might atleast think you have a small fraction of a brain unlike esposing your ignorance, iliteracy to the whole.
I think the government is not doing enough, it can do better than this .
please guys would someone send us contact number for Kabwe or e-mail address. We have people who want to help and all we need is contact numbers for Kabwe in Russia. My contact is 1-763-300-6420 thanks.By the way the Zambian Embasy in Russia contact number is +7952885001/5092 and fax number is +7959752056.
Code of Moscow is 495. Dial +74952885001/5092 and fax +74959752056. You missed “4”
#56 you aint serious,you devill
Yes, I know a student Ntazana sichilima a son to the minister mr sichilima. He is a son of a minister but he always begs for money from us girls and even boys , shame to the Zambian govt.
Yes, I knew that Ntazana, everyone in Rostov knew him that he was dirty and a begger who always depended on others for help.
But at the same time he tells people that his dad was a minister, very shameful case, zambian minister.
haaaaaaaaaa i d rather stay illiterate than surfer the harsh nonsense of our zambian gov.
suuuuuuck
NI ZEE MRS NJOVU MHSRIP – ZED ZIKO LAMUTENDELE
It’s very sad how nonsesical people can be making all sorts of follish rants on a serious issue.The ones who are felling the impact are the ones experiencing it and it even pains more to see people make fun of your vulnarability..but as the saying goes,whatever goes around comes back around…..one day nifwebo tukalaseka bige
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