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Admission is not failure – Shikapwasha

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Information and broadcasting minister Ronnie Shikapwasha
Information and broadcasting minister Ronnie Shikapwasha

PRESIDENT Rupiah Banda’s remarks on the challenges the Government is facing should not be misconstrued as suggesting that he and his Cabinet have insurmountable problems, Chief Government spokesperson, Ronnie Shikapwasha has said.

Lieutenant General Shikapwasha said President Banda was not complaining but only acknowledging the enormity of the economic problems the Government and the people of Zambia had to grapple with in view of the global financial crisis.

Gen Shikapwasha said in a Press statement yesterday that it was sad that a former deputy minister would make remarks such as those attributed to Chisamba Member of Parliament, Moses Muteteka in respect of his own Government.

Gen Shikapwasha said the president, by stating that he was consulting various stakeholders and directing his ministers to take appropriate measures in dealing with the crisis, clearly meant that he was providing the necessary leadership expected of him.
He said President Banda and his Cabinet were confident with the measures that they had put in place to mitigate the global economic financial crisis and called for the cooperation of all Zambians.

“President Banda and his Cabinet have already started taking measures aimed at resolving the economic challenges faced in the mining sector as shown by his meeting with management of Luanshya Mine and the Mine Workers Union of Zambia in Luanshya on Saturday,” he said.

The President repeatedly said that what was required was for the people to know the efforts the Government was making in finding solutions to the economic downturn in the country and the effect it was likely to have on employment and production of goods and services.

On the composition of the Cabinet, Gen Shikapwasha said it was clear that the president had appointed people who were performers and placed them where he expected them to succeed.
He said ministers were not chosen necessarily by the professional qualifications but on account of their ability to provide leadership required to deliver services to the people.
“It is clear from the 44 years of the country’s history that some of the most effective ministers of Health were not necessarily medical doctors themselves.

“There is no doubt that Dr Brian Chituwo is a performer and did extremely well at the Ministry of Health. He is expected to do the same at the ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives,” he said.
Gen Shikapwasha said there were several ministers who were heading ministries not necessarily because they were professionals in the services provided by those ministries.
He said if that were the case as being suggested by Mr Muteteka, certain ministries would have no ministers because of not having MPs with the necessary professional qualifications.

“Mr Mutetaka himself was once a deputy minister in the ministry of Lands. There is nothing that shows that he is an expert in matters of land but the late President Mwanawasa chose him because he believed he had the capacity to provide political leadership,” he said.
He said it was evidently the practice in many countries the world over for presidents and prime ministers to shuffle ministers and place them where they could best provide the desired results.

Times of Zambia

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350 COMMENTS

  6. Failures failures failure… icibemba citila ati uwawa tabula akabepesho. I hope you will not rig elections ever again.ba makaka.

  10. **==**==**==RB, you entered plot 1 through the back door,so you desereve what you are passing thru,LESA ni DOWN……

  12. Muteteka is right, even shikapwasha does not belong to imformation, he is suppose to be in foreign ministry or defence where he is got knowledge about the affairs of that ministry, give positions to people who have ideas about that ministry, and Rupia what was he complaining about? Levy had a lot of ploblems but he sorted them out, that old man must work, we don’t wan’t him to get paid for doing nothing.that is our money is getting from taxed salaries, come on Rupiah work on your promises and stop yapping, rub********sh.

  13. Admission of failure is not failure, but ba RB, 6weeks is too early for you to start seeing and complaining about the hazards of the job. You have 3 good years to make good of your assumed presidency or do the noble: step down and let somebody else finish your headache for you.

  17. Hey when the issue of gorvanance surfaced RB took time to form cabinnet if he wanted a wind of advice he could have some opposition MP included in his cabinet. Let alone Magande.Just like LPM did, but how come 4 now the opposition are thought to be with solutions out side the boundaries of power? Please let RB speak for himself on his UBUPIANI. piana ngwa apiana na mabala.

  18. mmmh ba shiks noku fyuka ichushi just apa! so then, why doesnt government look into it…perhaps if they allocated ministers appropriately we could see some changes????did u ask yourselves that???

  19. The Minister’s execuse is lame. We need professionals to provide leadership at Ministerial level. If there aren’t enough qualified MPs the president can appoint a few qualified people to run government ministries.As far as I can recall, only lawyers have been Ministers of Justice, it could very odd to have medical doctor or an engineer run the justice department on indeed the Ministry of finance.Zambia has enough qulified people. The answer lies crossing party lies for the benefit of the country. If Levy had made a mistake appointing Muteteka to Lands Ministry, does that qualify RB to make the same mistake?

  20. when we say MMD has failed RB we are not making personal attack on you the has been FJT, LPM before you and when we look at the past 18 years efyo twa concluda fye!! why have we been talking about diversifying from copper? if we r not even practicing all the millions of dollars from dollars to explore this n 18 years we have gone back to copper? a child has been born and become an adult in this time by the way. 😮 iyo twa kana

  21. Sony Eric

    Bwino daddy unga imwe at bwanji??

    Connection ‘beefy’ today, whats happening LT? or am i the only one experiencing this

  25. Its true uwawa tabula kabepesho. Just step down and let Micheal take over. You have failed batata and your advisors are not advising correctly. They are just using you and we know ichalo conse cilakwata ama problems but for you its too much eversince you came into power its problems mealie meal 90pin. Where are we heading to God help us. **==**==

  27. “He said President Banda and his Cabinet were confident with the measures that they had put in place to mitigate the global economic financial crisis and called for the cooperation of all Zambians.”

    these are just politics…..
    why wasnt he specific..?….silly

  28. Iwe Sony Ericson Talk to your brother to stop :-@ing Nonsense,he cant even be ashemed of talikng about fertilizer sure after lying to the pipo of Zed about the commodity.Imwe vaku chipata ni cicani kansi.Otherwise how are you my bro.I like one thing about you,you are not a hypocrite you are able to tell RB that what he’s doing is wrong even you come from the same fun province.keep it up bro.With great love Matworld-Nice guy!

  29. Shikapwasha alefuka ne cushi yaba! bane the truth hurts and these guys should learn to accept criticism, efyo babela ifikopo!!!! Edited

  30. #13.lusaka Zo-ona you have come,but you could not tell me ati you are in the area.I have been waiting for you since midnight.Otherwise How are you today,I really missed you my dear. @};-@};-

  38. Shikapwasha you are a disgrace to the pipo of Zambia.I forgive you my dear,coz ndiya pamene udyela,butits not suppose to be like that.You may cheat yourself to be clever by claiming yourself to be a Man of God here on earth but God is watching you.Read james 1vs 26-27

  40. Ba Sony, mir geht’s prima, ma hangover in the middle of the week shuwa, na Xmas ikalibe ku yamba? Anyway, life is short, tiyeni ti vi mwe. When are you going to pay me a visit? I want to entertain you…:)

  43. Ba Chale Iam best ze biggy,listen to this guy Sony ati he’s from Nabwalya,just because they have finished Mbeba kumawa so he want to claim to be a citizen of Luapula/northern power.My friend Sony just humble yourself we will receive you.That’s exactly what my mother said,she is now a citizen of Luapula,but we have only allowed her to kill 2 rats a day. :)):)):)):))

  45. We are paying through the nose to keep RB and his gang of mercenaries in office and we expect them to get on with the job of sorting out our problems without whining. I dont think the problems facing this country are any worse than what Kaunda or shorty faced, but they didnt come to us to whine, they did what he could.

    Get on with the Job and stop demoralising everyone.

  46. Me..This government just irritates me!! ~X( Yesterday it was Teta and Kunda…today it Shikapwasha! And its all just blah blah blah blah blah blah :-@:-@ Just shut up and work not ukula landa landa fye! Thats why we need a new complete overhaul of this system. Am sick and tired of this….x(

  47. Iwe Chishikaponya your President was having a good time when LPM was alive and little did he know that being a head of state is not like being a farm manager. During campaigns inspite of the falling economy world wide he continued to cheat the brainless MMD cadres that he had the panacea to heal Zambia’s hardships. What has happened to that courage the man with a degree in economics had in October? Answer me if you are real General no Gonga

  48. He has admitted in public & through the media.
    Can Teta say something about it especially that RB is the Head of state
    Mr Teta where are you we want to hear from you tell your president to follow the normal mmd rule of discussing issues. 😕 Muteteka was merely expressing his opinion just as RB has done[-( vangovuta tyala!!!

  49. :d CAN SUM 1 PLZ HELP ME TO PIN SHIKAPWASHA’S NOSE N BIG STINKING MOUTH BCOZ HIS POLUTING US WTH BAD AIR FROM THE NOSE N MOUTH ATASE TUTU..

  52. I think Ba LT you should stop outting some of these topics on this site Coz they spoil our good moods.We started very well Mwamona nomba my dear Girly is sick and tired.Please Girly dont go I will talk to Ba LT. 8->8->8->

  53. Some people are born Leaders regardless of their education achievement.
    I think RB has wrong advisers who are just bootlicking as long as they are paid and taking their children to good schools.
    :-\”:-\”:-\”;)

  56. A true leader should provide to his people in turn he will build their trust in him. Show us what you are made of RB prove us wrong. And thats all i had to say about that!

  59. Yeah, admission is not failure, just like a sign is not a confirmation of the actual but a symptom of something. In this instance, failure?

    Dread (no. 5) is right. So much emotion – angry emotion can make one expire.

  64. #61 Lusaka my Dear,You dont have to say thank you its my duty to make you happy,I can sen you some more roses.this time using DHL.

  65. MMd r failures, just accept it. Mteteka will now become target practice by MMD hooligans just loke they almost turned Teta into 1 when he said smthing on LPm when he was sick. It will be an interesting new year in Zambia. PF watches with keen interest!!!

  67. Okay guys I know that pa Zed ifitu nafibipa,but I think we should thank God that we are better of tha Zim imagine the death toll has risen by 25%,18,0000 are infected by cholera.this has never happened pa ZED.please its okay to complain,but lets also find time to thank God for the love and joy we are enjoying pa Zed Ziko la mutendere.Can we close our eye we Pray.Thank God for the peace,love and joy that you have blessed us with pa Zed,Father God we ask you to Impart some knowledge in out leaders,so that they may be able to meet the needs of pipo of zed.we pray all these in Christ name ameen!! [-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<

  69. Aba abakote balasekesha.Admission of difficulties can sometimes entail that you are overwhekmed and are lacking ideas on how to proceed.Most people that admit difficulty end up failing anyway.Tell them princess Y.Ngamwafilwa kulanda.There is a liitle glimmer of hope that someone might quit.Be ready Zambians.And just a reminder Mr Sikapwasha appropriate MP’s for specific jiobs can be found if you look hard enough.Thats why the president nominates 10 MP’s its to suit that purpose.

  74. Matworld, you also know how to pray! Boy am I impressed. Yeah pls DHL those roses so I can get them before Christmas.
    On a serious note, problems are never really problems until you put them in their proper perspective. Yea, Zambia has perennial cholera outbreaks, bit not to the levels of what is happening in Zimbabwe. Just the other day a Zimbabwean vendor collapsed at Luburma (Kamwala for those of you who may not know it) market because of hunger, most likely. our people in the rural areas can at least survive on wild fruits and roots. No doubt Zimbabwe has also run out of roots and fruits.

  76. #54

    Just because you are struggling for your identity and recognition does not mean you accuse Bembas of all sorts of things

  78. 74.lusaka timaesako.We are all christians in my family I remember we used to miss akabwali when dad finds out that we did not attend the sunday school.From that time I have see how great is Our GOD and how great is His name.Iam a Baptist.

  81. Why are you all caving in and responding to #54’s racial remarks? These posters have nothing relevant to say and just choose to pick fights all day with Bemba people on the blog. Put them on ignore and maybe they will just crawl back under the tribal rock where they came from.

  84. **==**==**== #67 mat-world

    Thanks for your prayer but could not close my eyes!! i had to see the content of the prayer. Too bad for zim people,lets hope a power sharing will be attained this week as per s/african presdos analysis…

  85. SHIKAPWASHA TELL RB TO FIND A SOLUTION, AND TELL HIM THAT HE SHOULD STOP COMPLAINING,DID HE THINK ITS EASY TO BE IN PLOT ONE WITH NO IDEAS.MWAMONA NOMBA MWALETI FYALYANGUKA TEPAPA BEARLY A YR YOU CRYING !!!!! 8->8->8->8->8->8->

  87. Big LT, is wasting too much time on iasauing statements that are not convincing.ninshi yashupa…bombenifye …we will see how much you will be able to achieve.pliz lt,concentrate more on your work other than yaping..:o:o:d/:d/:o

  88. Matworld

    A big No! Its Not me! honestly. The thing who posted that is very s#$%$#&*! That thing is bent on bringing my name into ridicule!

    Rashid,matworld are two of the my sweetest mates on LT!

  89. #78 Matworld: I hope you now enjoy going to Church and, since I read that you are praying for a wife on the other topic – I will join the others in praying for and confirming that am the woman you have been waiting for (LOL) – that you will bring up your children in the fear of the Lord and respect for humankind.

  90. Matworld Could you please chose only one of the following girls, because you keep on changing camps.

    A.Baby C
    B.Sara Jones
    C.Sweet Thang
    D.Girlie
    E.Lusaka
    F.Norah
    G.None of the above

  91. People like #54 suffer from a psychological disorder called “ADD” (Attention Deficit Disorder). In German, we call it “Aufmerksamkeitsdefizitsyndrom” ADS.
    It simply means the person is “Lacking in Appreciation” and their comments will always reflect this phenomenom. Probably because they wish they were Bembas themselves, but happen to belong to a smaller, less-influential tribe. These people are a minority on this blog.

  92. Yaba ba Mwisho ba Shikapwasha.He is drunk with power.I remember he is the one that signed a letter of dismissal of Lupando Mwape in the airforce. now he is being the chief spokesman of NyamaSoya.Well Rb does not want to face Zambians, all his trips are in secret unless to his “petty strongholds”. well, Luanshya is a test for him.Shikapwasha should direct his energy in reducing the slid of the Kwacha.Most things pa Zed are imported. twafwa pa Zed.!!!!

  93. Bloggers, you can also join in and help our brother make the wisest choice! I will tell you later, on which girl i think is most suitable for him!

  94. #89.my lusaka I dont want you to pray that I find a good wife coz its like I have aready found you.I have just been reading Mark 10 vs 9 “what God has joined together let let man not separate”.So you your prayer should be no man will come in your life only Matworld.Laugh out low not loud. :-j:-j:-j:-j:-j:-j

  97. #93.thank you so much my bro,yah wangufwisha bwino :-j:-j:-j:-j:-j.Anyway i will respond to you later.let me first eat akabwali.wamfumya energy yonse mumubili.

  100. Matworld, ala mwandi you just enjoy the attention! You are a sweet guy!! Tell LT to stop witholding my comments so we can all laugh atase! 🙂

  101. Professions exist to give people deeper insight and understanding into a specific fields of study. Each govt ministry will benefit from such brains, especially if they also come with leadership qualities. We need to raise the bar for our MPs, may be require all MPs to be highly educated. They are responsible for making national decisions in parliament and outside.

  103. Roma Side ubwafya tapali nalatuma,though no proper vegitable,we only have spinarch kuno ayi.Iam really missing home.ubowa bwakupanga tulya utwa white.each time nifi chicken,beef.awe Iam missing home. 8->8->8->8->8->

  105. #94 Matworld I had to chuckle quietly(sp) to myself. Now am praying for strength to be able to turn off other men and keep myself for Mr Nice guy. God help me.

  106. Matworld
    I will be glad if you can jst send Akabwali minus relish
    I miss akabwali so much but not zed chicks , I can always get something from here though.

  107. number 13. You don’t need to be in a job for longer times for you to notice the enormity of the tasks ahead and let alone speak about them. RB is taalking about a challenge is he going through. His test is whether or not he will come out of this difficulty sitution stronger or he will crush under the enormity of the problem. Let’s criticise with senses and not emotions

  108. numer 13. You don’t need to be in a job for longer times for you to notice the enormity of the tasks ahead and let alone speak about them. RB is taalking about a challenge is he going through. His test is whether or not he will come out of this difficulty sitution stronger or he will crush under the enormity of the problem. Let’s criticise with senses and not emotions

  109. Nangu tapasoswa kwena chi Shikapwasha chena chibi mukumoneka mwee. Amatobo kwati matako ye uule. ichimona kwati matako ya kanya. Mukanwa teti ulondolole yewe. This gus is really ugly.

  110. Shikapwasha OK admission is not failure in your small brian, If it is not failure why then are you defending it. Get it right cheap minister failure is admission just like admission is failure we chipumbu we.

    I do not know which school you went to but it looks as though you will be one of these yes bwanas. The days where zambians were cheated are long gone, so bane wake up and deliver what you promised you fo…ols

  112. Hey people due to popular demand i have stopped insulting ! Secondly I want to ask all of you what you expect from ‘Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer'(Ronnie) ? The embecile totally failed when he was in the airforce. Upto now the MiGs that were sent in 97 to israel are still marooned there because the man diverted the money that was meant for thir mainetance cover. Infact he is still in Government because he was related to LPM who unfortunately reintroduced tribalism in Zambia and now because he has a task of looking after ‘My’ affairs. Why do we have such clowns around. With all schools like UNZA, CBU, ZCAS etc surely can we fail to raise a young vibrant leader ?

  114. Imwe bakapala, this is not a dating forum. Find some other sites where you can post your boring childish ukubuta comments. Sha!!

  115. “It is clear from the 44 years of the country’s history that some of the most effective ministers of Health were not necessarily medical doctors themselves.”

    The man is just too ashamed to say that Sata did well in the ministry of health and yet he was a constable. =d>

  118. #106. We dont care if you miss akabwali but not ukupontela inkeche shapa zed ok ? If you are satisfied by those eskimos you are ramming whereever you are dont bring it on LT or else i will unleash the curse of the fleas of a thousand camels on you. The mistake Zambians make when they go out is to think that the girls out there te mahule and then you chew live……you will come as cargo sonny. Wapya

  119. On a serious note now. RB and his buddies have in the recent weeks talked a lot on the issues affecting our nation. Good to know they are aware. Now can they tell us, what measures they have put in place and when exactly the implementation process is like to begin? We have heard enough of strategising, dialogue and so on. Let the ball start rolling!

  120. #90,FYI,looks like there are 2 Sarah jones’s on this blogg. One from UK and another from an eastern european flag..can’t point a finger to it though…..

  121. Shikapwashw, well done to explain to majority of Zambians who don’t understand the difference between acknowledging the existence of problems and failure.
    Most os the guys including their opposition leaders think acknowledging there is a problem is failure; that is strange skill/strategy from Chishimba and the opposition that has no single idea or solution to the crisis.
    I like UPND, who called for conceited efforts in finding solutions to this problem. UPND is more progressive than those calling for demo as their only plan on how to resolve the crisis.
    I must say that if you can ackowldge the problem you have started the process of dealing with it already.

  123. #117, you are not the only bored… cross your fingers/touchwood. LT will post good stimulating news soon.. :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/

  124. #117, you are not the only bored… cross your fingers/touchwood. LT will post good stimulating news soon.. :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/>:/

  125. Lets make more bucks and fucc again
    Fly to LA and fucc Karrine ,fucc karinne and fucc again

    sorry
    This is jst Lil Wayne lyrics on track called Ransom

  126. 😮

    roma side! I can’t belive you recited those lyrics and got away with it! I really think LT have something against me!!!!!!:-w

  127. This priest general shikapwasha thinks he is talking to the always meek church congregation. Please give Zambians the respect that they deserve because they think and therefore they are able to see through lies.

  129. Two missionaries in Africa get apprehended by a tribe of very
    hostile cannibals who put them in a large pot of water, build a
    huge fire under it, and leave them there. A few minutes later,
    one of the missionaries starts to laugh uncontrollably. The
    other missionary can’t believe it! He says, “What’s wrong with
    you? We’re being boiled alive! They’re gonna eat us! What could
    possibly be funny at a time like this?”

    The other missionary says, “I just peed in the soup.”

  131. #110. Anonymous
    I wonder where we have problems in understanding.
    No one has admitted any failure, neither has anyone defended failure.
    What RB has done is acknowledge the problems the country is facing at the moment. That has no suggestion that someone is talking about failure. RB is a wise leader, has eyes to see there is problem. The opposition leaders have also seen these problems and have acknowledged them; are they failures?
    What is amazing is that even Chiluba and SATA who ruined the economy by killing all industries, agriculture, mining, everything dont want to accept failure. Sad that SATA is also blaming the mess of our economy on the new guys.

  132. Ba Maurine
    Nsshilepontela ba Gelo ba pa zed but I can get almost evereything here except Akabwali. If we consider the laws of utility(satisfaction),more satisfaction is derived from the new product than the old pproducts.

    Sweet thang

    Its good track , I think you can enjoy it.

  135. Bill Gates organized an enormous session to recruit a new Chairman for Microsoft Europe. 5000 candidates assembled in a large room. One candidate was Mulenga Musonda a Zambian living in USA.

  136. Bill Gates thanked all the candidates for coming and asking those who do not know JAVA programming to leave. 2000 people leave the room. Mulenga says to himself, ‘I do not know JAVA but I have nothing to lose if I stay. I’ll give it a try’ Bill Gates asked the candidates who never had experience of managing more than 100 people to leave. 2000 people leave the room.. Mulenga says to himself ‘ I never managed anybody by myself but I have nothing to lose if I stay. What can happen to me?’ So he stays.

  137. Then Bill Gates asked candidates who do not have management diplomas to leave. 500 people leave the room. Mulenga says to himself, ‘I left school at 15 but what have I got to lose?’ So he stays in the room

  138. Lastly, Bill Gates asked the candidates who do not speak Serbo – Croat to leave. 498 people leave the room. Mulenga says to himself, ‘ I do not speak one word of Serbo – Croat but what do I have to lose?’ So he stays and finds himself with one other candidate.
    Everyone else has gone. Bill Gates joined them and said ‘Apparently you are the only two candidates who have all the required qualifications & experience I am looking for and speak Serbo – Croat, so I’d now like to hear you have a conversation together in that language.’

    and……

  139. Calmly, Mulenga turns to the other candidate and says

    `Mulishani Mukwai!
    The other candidate answers ‘ Yangu tata yee!! Naimwe mu li ba Bemba?????

  140. LT Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Change Topic!! Am bored out of my skull now!!! Its drivin me crazy!!! 8-x8-x8-x8-x8-x8-}8-}8-}8-}

  141. #134.Anon8585,tell me what did you see in your vision.I will be very fine,All things works for good for those who love the Lord.so I guess I will be cool. :)>-:)>-:)>-

  145. #139.Sweet thang that tells me something about us bembas.We take make use of every opportunity at hand.Iam sure Mulenga and the other chap got that Job at the end of the day.

  149. Matworld

    I know you ve got a crush on Lusaka, the bad news is.. he is a man in his early 40s

    Go for Baby C, Sarah Jones or girlie -most decent ladies on this Blog if not, Die umushimbe.This is for real my brother

  150. **==**==**==At least am the last one now,am tired at shikapwasha’s body viewing,he’s really a General…….

  151. Not so different from the Zambian chicks
    Most of them work out to keep in shape and maintain a flat stomach.Brazilian are hot,mexiccans also good , Canadians are jst like Euroamerican chicks but not to writte off the Ethopians . The Ethopians are really beautiful,someone told explained that the most beautiful woman mentioned in the bible came from Ethopia ,I cant dispute it.

  152. #120 Sweetie Pie.

    The Sarah in blue and red flag is the same person. One at home and the other at work.

    Baby C.
    I have now cheered up because it will be soon be launch time

  154. # 149. Areyou sure one can find hapiness through an e-marriage ? You will be shocked to hook up with an e-chick only to find its Namugala or ba mayo ba Vera….all threads gone exsay !

  159. #149. Anon8585 dont say that tell me you are joking pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeese! Oh God hope this person is joking eishh!! eishh!! ~X(~X(~X(~X(.Anyway ley me take a break I will come later.8->8->8->8->8->

  162. Bush is not wanted in middle east and some parts of the world and RB Nyama soya, Who likes you in this country? only Tetamashimba, Shikapwasha and the gruop.
    Failier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d

  163. You guys after you have failed to make analytical conclusion of the matter at hand, you have simply resorted to what you understand best.
    I see!

  166. Kabwe warriors had two striker brothers called Tshikala bros back in the days.Coincidentally the bros had issues to settle with the immigration dept at the time when KW was having a big march against some team.The daily mail that day had “KABWE WARRIORS PLAY WITHOUT TSHIKALAS” on its sports page.Fans stormed the daily mail offices citing the title an insult.The following day the title had been changed to “KABWE WARRIOR PLAY WITH TSHIKALAS OUT”.

  167. #163 Ba Fine.okay let me tell you the truth lelo mukamba.I fear and respect you.You will never see my comment saying anything against you.Mukamba ulinshimbi cabipa fye you are not PF atherwise you would have succeded SATA.Pantu paliba Data kwati mungeli.

  168. #160 Anon8585 Would you rather I used a name that was asexual and remained like that or would you rather I called myself something feminine when i was all male? Or do you have a problem with me just?

  169. lusaka don’t give Anon8585 any reason to talk, he or she clearly finds pleasure in upsetting people for no reason. Just IGNORE it!

  171. I dont have a problem with you. But you are a man. even if you were a woman, better still you sound so desperate how old are you? be elusive at times, like utubena babyc, sarah jones etc.

  172. THOSE COMPLAINING NEW TOPIC IYO!!

    Subject: A drink at the millionaire

    I recently paid a visit to a millionaire’s house, and ended up not having
    anything to drink despite the offer and how thirsty I was.
    Below is how the offer was made to me:-

    Question : “What would you like to have ..Fruit juice, Soda, Tea,
    Chocolate, Milo, or Coffee?”
    Answer: “tea please”

    Question : ” Ceylon tea, Herbal tea, Bush tea, Honey bush tea, Ice tea or
    green tea ?”
    Answer : “Ceylon tea ”

    Question : “How would you like it ? black or white ?”
    Answer : “white”

    Question : “Milk, Whitener, or Condensed milk ?”
    Answer : “With milk ”

    Question : “Goat milk, Camel

  173. continued #172
    Question : “Goat milk, Camel milk or cow milk”
    Answer : “With cow milk please.

    Question : ” Milk from Freezeland cow or Afrikaner cow?”
    Answer: ” Aaggman I will take it black. ”

    Question : ” Would you like it with sweetener, sugar or honey?”
    Answer : “With sugar”

    Question :” Beet sugar or cane sugar ?”
    Answer : “Cane sugar ”

    Question :” White , brown or yellow sugar ?”
    Answer : “Aagman ! forget about tea just give me a glass of water instead.”

    Question : “Mineral water or still water ? ”
    Answer : “Mineral water”

    Question : “Flavoured or non-flavoured ?”
    Answer : “Gee! I give up just get me tap water once and for all.

    Quest

  176. continued #173
    Question : “Flavoured or non-flavoured ?”
    Answer : “Gee! I give up just get me tap water once and for all.

    Question : “Bore hole or straight tap water.? ”
    Answer : “Just forget it, I am not thirsty anymore.

    Ola!!!!

  179. #167. Matworld-Nice guy!
    Thanks man! But succeeding SATA would imply starting a new party altogther because I would have to scrap off all the conflict ideology. This would mean revamping and renovating all the minds of those deep into if to make them understand that political success is possible without conflict, violence and demos.

  184. Ba fine Iam sure you can do that with that data of yours.yes you can.Lusaka Yashani Iyo wayamba futi? What of Zoe ni guy,ba guy balapampula ka.Zoe you dont have to go to Lusaka for a glass of tap water I will talk to my brother in Lusaka,He will be more willing to offer you whatever you want to quence your thirsty.

  185. LT cum up wth a solution where bloggers also hav the rite 2bring up their own stories(there r bloggers wu got data u knw).Than u keepin them waiting 4latest topics,it becomes so so boring

  187. How to survive a day at the office

    1. 9am switch on power
    2. 9:05 check mail and blog a little bit (LT)
    3. 10:05 download virus
    4. 10:30 call help desk
    5. 10:45 – 17hrs spend rest of the day relaxing while computer man tries to fix it.

  188. Iwe Zoe Please dont pay lusaka a visit she forgot to tell that that she’s got vicious dogs and Lions.The guards at her place uses grenades to chase away unwanted visitors.So am begging you dont visit her.Okay!! I promise when I come to zed I will bring some sweet for you okay!! Now I want you to promise me that you wont visit her.

  189. Zoe uleisa bwino. Matworld, uli che?? Ba Rashid patalala, Ba Maureen mwela onse. All LT bloggers, what a lovely community of Zedians, Lets keeep kicking it. LT better listen to #185

  191. #186, am facing the same problem. I have lost more than 5 postings this evening alone… so annoying ~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(

  195. Wah gwaan LT, is de syszem adminisatar on holiday or wah? Me logged in dis mornin and still de same news when me return…yush! Dem ya stories are starting to crush like bread when it stale.
    #172-73 Zoe, if yu come to me crib, yu go have it easier…only Ganja Tea weh me go offer unnu me yute, seen? And after dat we blaze an ounce of lamb spread to it…mmmhhhh;)

  200. # 151 I totally agree with you from xperience. I worked in that area sometime back and guys when you see the chicks, you will be convinced your girl back home looks like Mbesuma or Ba tata ba Ronnie. Thy have superb shapes but shockingly 89% have no ‘antenaes’ due to Female Genital Circmcision so if you are humping, she feels nothing. No need for mutototo !

  207. Lusaka I dont have to shout let me whisper it in your hear.Its one way of stopping Zoe to pay you a visit since you have told him to pay you a visit,Iam scared kuti ampampula.So keep it to yourself dont tell anyone,But why did you ask zoe to pay you a visit?

  208. #199 Zoe, me hail Christ too. Him is the King of Kings, His kingly character is manifested in Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia, Negus Nagast, Earth rightful ruler, Kadhamawi, Kadhamawi ^:)^^:)^^:)^

  209. The 11th Husband….

    A young man married a beautiful woman who had previously divorced 10 husbands. On their wedding night, she told her new husband to “Please be gentle; I’m still a virgin”.

    “What?” said the puzzled groom. “How can that be if you’ve been married ten times.?”

    “Well, husband#1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how great it was going to be.

    “Husband # 2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was suppose to function; but he said he’d look into it and get back with me.

    “Husband # 3 was from Field Services; he said that everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn’t get the system up.

    “Husband # 4 was i

  212. #209 continued

    The 11th Husband….

    A young man married a beautiful woman who had previously divorced 10 husbands. On their wedding night, she told her new husband to “Please be gentle; I’m still a virgin”.

    “What?” said the puzzled groom. “How can that be if you’ve been married ten times.?”

    “Well, husband#1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how great it was going to be.

    “Husband # 2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was suppose to function; but he said he’d look into it and get back with me.

    “Husband # 3 was from Field Services; he said that everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn’t get the system up.

    “Hu

  213. #209 continued
    Husband # 4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had the order, he didn’t know when he would be able to deliver.

    “Husband # 5 was an Engineer, he understood the basic process but he wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state of the-art method.

    “Husband #6 was from Administration; he thought he knew how but he wasn’t sure whether it was his job or not.

    “Husband # 7 was in Marketing; although he had a product, he was never sure how to position it.

    “Husband # 8 was a Psychiatrist; all he did was talk about it.

    “Husband # 9 was a Gynecologist; all he did was look at it.

    “Husband # 10 was a Stamp Collector; all he ever did

  214. #208 Selase hai.jah rastafari.Him Jeses is the king of Judah same as H.I.M his imperial majesty the lion of Judah Haile Selaseh.Jesus came to save us form the slaverly of sin while His Imperial Majesty saved us from dis white men the so called Babylonians I’n’I have enough respect for H.I.M for his works still.

  216. “Husband # 10 was a Stamp Collector; all he ever did was….. God I miss him.

    ” But now that I’ve married you, I’m so excited”.

    “Wonderful”, said the husband, “but why?

    “Your’re with the “GOVERNMENT”..

    This time I KNOW I’M gonna get screwed.”

  226. Hey Ray (69). There very few like you. I keep straining my eyes from skipping most posts which I find to be baloney. I am young but I have a mind of a university prof. I am always looking out for like minded bloggers to blog with. I spotted you out.

  227. Zoe Ooh! let me take a deep breath now!! Hah aha ha ha Ha! You know what my dear visiting each other is very important to every human being.so Iam begging you my dear pay Lusaka a visit she needs you.I will definately bring some sweets for you,Next year just tell mev the type of sweets.

  228. Ites is Ites Jah Man, me happy to have more Rasta bredren pon de site. I an’ I vibrations: positive!
    Me also notice how de dawtas dem multiply pon de blog. Some a dem fit like fiddle..just a likkle herb & one smirnoff ice me go gi dem to get dem IN DE MOOD =p~

  231. A chipata pensioneer gets his K85m and due to akaso dcides to go and bury it in the bush. He reaches a good spot, dug a small hole under a big tree and carefully burried it. He then gets out his camera and take shot of the tree from 50metres. satisfied he goes home where there is no food because the guys is a miser. The following day he takes the film for developing……he shouts and collpases upon seeing the pictures…………to be cont’d

  232. #225 Lulu,u r welcome but i dnt think LT is 4friendship specifically bt u can be friends wth all bloggers bt be careful wth Matworld,as his name states “Nice Guy”,dnt be carried young gal he is not.Akakocha

  234. Girly dont worry my dear petience pays,am sure Lt is also aware that we are bored so they are trying by all means to find some letest news.As for you 220. Ba maureen mulibalubuli zo-ona

  235. 225 lulu

    Welcome to the club my dear.. You will have to wait for a guy called Chale Nine who will give you a manual on the dos and donts while on LT. Keep blogging! :))

  238. There is someone up the tree looking downwards that looks like…………..his wife as she was gathering fruit and thought it was a wild animal coming and so clambred up the tree!

  239. #229

    Thanks a lot hun!! That has cheered me up…so I will leave now before LT spoils the rest of my day!! U take care guys!! :)>-

  241. Iwe zoe wayamba ukumponya makilo ka!! Iam a nice guy,iwas just trying to keep you guys blogging since we dont have any letest news.LuLU you are most welcome my dear on this site.word of caution No insulting,attacking fellow bloggers.Thank you here is a big hug for you LuLu >:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<

  242. Hey Lulu! Welcome to the club!! I’m fairly new too, just go with the flow! Most of the bloggers are friendly! You do get a few bogus people! 🙂

  243. #225,Hey Lulu, a big welcome. Take your pick as to whom can be your friend on this blogg… please avoid those who insult!!!! [-([-(:-?:)>-

  245. Ba Maureen, if you cant beat them, join them. Ther is enogh to go round. Burn dem Dread, I nI agree mon, It will be a wonderful blog with olipa Rasta and nuff dwattas

  247. TO all bloggers,its 16:50hrs in zed time 2knock off.Girlie, Baby C and Lusaka i hope u havent forgoten that 2day is wednesday and u knw wat it means.As 4me cum rain,cum sunshine,No matter the weather,KALEPUKA

  249. ba maureen i find you a little hypocritical. Wasn’t it too long ago you said ‘Dont worry Sweet Thang is a reformed hooker from Tasintha and she is just practicing her English’ – for someone who has never spoken to you a day in my life i found it really really offensive! care to explain!

  250. Roma side,sweet thang,ba maureen,you suck you little Fags,you think this is some hiphop blog or something,hell no,you are the reason big time bloggers quit this blogs,cause lil cats like u are leaking

  253. Mayo nafwa! More and more ladies joining the blog everday!

    Baby C and Sarah Jones Mwabaletanya baiche. Mukose competition is proving to be too difficult now, especially for you baby c, since we all know that you are the most liked, you have to work harder so that you keep your position.

  254. Ba Maureen, (231) and continued at (238). Where did you get that one from, your stay at from State house? Just hope you were not the wife. I found it hilarious.

  259. #254 guys can be stingy at times so hit him hard. No no State house was different…ask Darlington. See you mailo naya mukuchinja PAD !

  260. Zoe wamona Ka what are you trying to tell your friends,what happens pa wednesday?Ladies day out,Please Baby C,Girly and Lusaka not ukumumfwila Zoe you are nice pipo.Kulepuka what does that suppose to mean? Lobe Ukalepuka where by we wont even recognise you.

  261. #247. Zoe wamona Ka what are you trying to tell your friends,what happens pa wednesday?Ladies day out,Please Baby C,Girly and Lusaka not ukumumfwila Zoe you are nice pipo.Kulepuka what does that suppose to mean? Lobe Ukalepuka where by we wont even recognise you.

  265. Cutey – true! All is fair in love and war, but i wasn’t talking to her, why couldn’t she just talk to someone else? I don’t insult, i come here to bring a likkle humour, i’m not her to be a typical zed *(*&^!!

  267. Iwe today pipo are angry.Ba LT please Am begging you put a new topic before we see more pipi figer pointing each other coz this will turn into a big fight.

  269. #251 If wat i post dnt impress u,u beta kip quiet coz it wont affect u.U r very known to be full of insults,sorry am not the type.Gudday

  270. correction.Iye today pipo are angry.Ba LT please Am begging you put a new topic before we see more pipo figer pointing each other coz this will turn into a big fight.

  271. yo jahman I live in the land of budah,we smoke weed like oxygen,you know,amsterdam has a the flavas,infact am jayed right now

  274. Matworld yes ladies nite,teti mpusaule abaiche.Kalepuka means its abt tym.Naya mukuchinja now the weather.Truck suit will do.@all of u haters,frnds n all bloggers,2moro

  275. #265, I wonder if the person is a she or he. b careful. [-([-([-([-(
    I publicly told every blogger that am married with kids for that matter.. respect is needed when blogging.:d/:d/

  276. maureen must be some sicky titty woman,braging about richies she aint got,people who gat cheddars dont mention about there greens,only the wanna be do that.Do yaself hole

  277. Cutey – I hear you! Importantly we are here to share on what is going on in our beloved country, admittedly its also a place where we as zambians connect! I have NEVER ever been rude to anyone, and thats the thing about respect, its should be mutual. Thanks for the advice I’ll remember to b careful! **==

  279. Guys I have a song to share with you,please dont mind my voice,but just listen to the words.It goes like this.Please lets not exchange be words we are one,regardless where we are we are one.Iam sure if we were to be asked to to say where we come from we will all proudly Say Zambia,for one simple reason.Coz zambian are known as peaceful and intelligent pipo.so lets keep on loving each other.the end of my song.As for me weather you Insult me or not i will still consider you as my fellow zambian

  280. Amen to that Matworld – you really are a nice guy! Lets maintain the peace! Guys i’m so sorry if i flew off on one! I’m ok though!!

  283. Thanx to everyone for your contributions tho some are irrele some are educative and make sad reading abt the state of affairs in our zed i jst hope RB and Pinocho have time to read the comments and reflect

  285. Lord have mercy,dont even know why I blogged,BA maureen,sweet thang and the rest,I ask forgiveness,if ever i can find a place in ya heart,we suppose to be jesus people,Lord please

  287. Gdef – we’re cool! I have nothing but love for all of you!! Peace! And yes, Acts 2:23,24 the death of Jesus on the cross was not accidental. The cross was an eternal plan of God for salvation of the world. God is compassionate about u, his love is unchanging towards us all! Lets emulate what he has done for us and continue to love 😡

  289. I n I agree with Matworld, carry on like this and we may just vote you president of Bloggers Association of Zed (BAZ), seriously mon, we need brethren like you. Respect to the max, one love.

  290. Zoe, you left a little early. However, see you tomorrow. No, there are neither lions nor dogs mu ghetto were I stay.
    Matworld, am checking out. Yes, I heard your whisper. Sorry our connectivity is getting lousy as we approach Christmas. I think the guy responsible has already started doping.
    Everybody else, I love
    Am out

  291. [-(:o[-x Lt General Shikapwasha Please [-x I did write a few months back that to have a whole General playing the role of Squealer in Animal Farm is serious misnorma!! Ba General when I say that I think I will not pass the exams or that the exams will be tough for me, unlike my friends!! What the hell do I mean?? Sir!!?? Doesn’t that mean ” If I fail, I will have known it or I will have no one to blame but myself”?? BaGeneral give us a break please,ala!!>:p

  292. sweet thang thank you, i think I need that,am a lost soul,need a change am fed up,hating and hurting,i will read that verse,thanks once more.

  293. #286.Baby C thats how it suppose to be my dear.I dont like it when one of us is sad.remember what happened to you two days ago.i was really disturbed by your anger when you were told..anyway let me not remind you.

  295. You guys talking about being bemba you totally out of your mind and you surely have no shame. The worst tribe on earth is bemba. They are thieves, lazy, without culture, dreamers,shortcuts, poor investors, always die poor, talkative, failed parentage look at chiluba and sata the list is endless. Imwe guys ba bemba osazinama, Nine chale, matworld and others you are cheating yourselves. Infact you are very few. You just add on even non-bemba’s in Northern (Namwangangas and the like) and Luapula (Ushi’s , Mambwes, Bisa etc). Bembas you will never rule Zambia again. Because you are plunderes by birth. Sata u r waisting your time mwana.

  297. Shikapwanya is keeping his job. he can even dare parade him self in front of us intellectuals yapping nonsense. Defending a f**l only makes you one. The chaps will spend 3 yrs answering back at sata and other critics while the kwacha approaches k6000 and all investors running away…publicly admitting that a country is facing problems is the least you expect from the Head of state. Even Mugabe today will tell SADC Zimbabwe is not bad…These dull politicians are wasting our time & money.We need hope and leadership.

  298. No Worries Gdef! God is love, remember that you are the only one who is in control of who and what you love! Don’t allow the devil to make you hurt!! :)>-

  299. Matworld

    You are everbody’s all-weather friend on this blog.Just like Chiluba and Mwaanga.But ka chaffing kena walyeshako. Do you have a masters in the same field? Am oughta of here. Too boring pa LT lelo. I wonder what Mingeli is still doing.

    To all you wonderful bloggers , (am not mentioning names today) Goodnite and love ya all. This is for you :*:x

  301. Matworld-Nice guy! #294, hate to spoil the party, but Baby C is a dude. But if this is your inclination, I can only [-o< for you. There are many Zimbabwean refugee women of whom you can marry three or more if you are strong my blaza.

  305. #297 very right..BOB was on CNN the other day saying cholera was no more in Zim let alone call it genocide caused by Gordon,,all african politicians dont face facts

  306. All you commentators who seem to know everything, please tell us which country is not facing economic hardships. The problem with some Zambians is that you LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to see people fail or suffer. If someone is welathy by legal means you still have something to say. Noone can do any good. Some people are behaving like paupers who have a complex towards rich or successful people.

    Some of you want instability in the country. Because of course if Mr. Sata was president his govt would’ve been immune from the current Global economic crisis where even developed nation are sliding into recessions. IGNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAAAANCE IS EVIL!!!!!!!!!!

  309. Heartless Lyrics

    In the night I hear ’em talk,
    The coldest story ever told,
    Somewhere far along this road
    He lost his soul
    To a woman so heartless…
    How could you be so heartless… oh
    How could you be so heartless?

    How could you be so,
    Cold as the winter wind when it breeze yo
    Just remember that you talking to me though
    You need to watch the way you talking to me yo
    I mean after all the things that we been through
    I mean after all the things we got into
    And yo I know of some things that you ain’t told me
    And yo I did some things but that’s the old me
    And now you wanna get me back
    And you gon’ show me
    So you walk around like you don’t know me
    You got a new friend
    Wel

  311. LT please serve us from hating by not posting news that is so irritating to people,its like you are the agitators of every ill en sick words from the people.We know our Government is a lockdown,its so ill,we need good news to cheer us up.fed up

  312. EN # 306, The purpose of leadership is to solve problems and if they can not, kuya bebele. :-b

    If you start making excuses like everyone else is going through the same problems, you are never going to progress. The boom in world metal prices is always followed by a slump and even wild animals know this because they are hunted more and their environment is destroyed by humans during these periods of slump. If wild animals know, even human beings like Shikawhatever and his friends should know and prepare instead of whinging like :@):@)

    Instability in a country is caused by poor leadership and not because people complain about hunger. :-b

  314. Gals.

    Am not impressed with a certain blogger. Please lets not insult each other and don’t use a womans name if you are not happy in life. Stop this nonsense and just come back to your normal self and not this heartless mutant you have become. Have a good day.

  316. I would rather RB told the truth than be like Bob Mugabe and lie about everything. It only takes a man with carriage to tell the true.

  317. Sony! You can be 315! I think they have all gone home! I’m about to be out! Guys have a lovely evening!! Goodnight and God Bless! 🙂

  321. Looks like the LT administrator has gone on strike. He probably needs a pay-rise. Some ill-minded bloggers have provided so much crap here, thick enough to wade through for days! Some contributions are literally traumatising to read.

  322. #312 All I’m saying is that the govt is trying to find solutions, when they admit something, they are shot down. I’m not MMD but all I’m saying is look at Europe, the UK, the US. What is going on with food prices. We have become so used to aPRESIDENT CONTROLLING EVERYTHNIG, THAT WHEN HE STARTS DELEGATING TO PEOPLE AS SHOULD BE THE CASE WITH THE CIVIL SERVICE, THEN you call him a failure. If you have the answers to everything (you, I mean other bloggers) why don’t you put them forward. Don’t even begin to say noone will listen. If you don’t haven’t tried, then you’re wasting your saliva.

    You cannot tell me there’s nothing to be proud of in Zambia. We lke hating

  323. #315 ,

    Sarah Jones.. who is that blogger bothering you??? who is pretending to be a woman??? was about to give up on LT but decided to make a last minute check in case LT came up with any stories..
    Its not difficult to tell a real woman from an imposter.:d/:d/:d/[-x[-x[-x

  324. T.I.
    Live Your Life lyrics
    Feat. Rihanna

    (Rihanna):
    You’re gonna be a shining star, with fancy clothes, and fancy car-ars.
    And then you’ll see, you’re gonna go far.
    Cause everyone knows, just who you are-are.
    So live your life, ay ay ay.
    You Steady Chasin that paper.
    Just live your life (Oh! ), ay ay ay.
    Ain’t got no time for no haters
    Just live your life (Ay! ), ay ay ay.
    No telling where it’ll take ya.
    Just live your life (Oh! ), ay ay ay.
    Cause I’m a paper chaser.
    Just living my life (ay), my life (oh), my life (ay), my life (oh)
    Just living my life (ay), my life (oh), my life (ay), my life (oh)
    Just living my life

    (T.I.):

  325. Ya koma batata aba bakali ayi? from that pic u can tell he has all the attributes of a bootlicker! u guyz have mizerably faild da nation. Icicintu cintumumwene….=d>

  326. You are right Cutey mudala #323. Fourlo eggxample me, I am a :(|)and do not pretend to be anything else. Are you in Australia or NZ?

  330. #327,#328, am actually in Aussie…am no man at all, so am not a mudala…
    I have known Nine Chale for a while now.. have ignored most of the blogging done by him/her.. they can continue blogging as long s they show maturity/respect to every blogger. All bloggers have a right to be on this site… :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?

  331. Imwe, people…why chatting behind my back? If you’re pissed off with some things I say, just be upfront and let me know. I have not mutated into anything, I’m still me, myself and I, so I will never change.
    I get along with basically all decent people on this blog, and they’re plenty. So I don’t think Sarah Jones has a bone to chew with me. I live by the principle: if you throw hate against the wall, hate will bounce back to you…I always try to throw love against the wall here on LT.

  334. Lets have constructive bloggig please. I am sure we can all exercise some level of maturity. This used to be such a good site. YOU ARE NOW spoiling it for everybody?

    YES, U WILL KNOW IF ITS U IAM REFERING TO.

  335. #332,Nine Chale, remember one day you said/blogged that you were going to pounce on me?? that is just after I came back from Zedi? :d/:d/:d/:d/:)>-:)>-

  336. #334, good on you… am a very well married lady blogger who is so fanatical about Zedi and that is the main reason am always on the blogg… :-?:-?:-?

  337. #335 Cutey I apologize if I offended you with my language. Must have been having some German Lager while blogging. No disrespect intended, I’m also happily married to beautiful German wife and nice kids.:)

  339. #338, Good on you again.. am happily married to an AUSSIE guy , with kids… so lets blogg maturely as our main aim for blogging is mother Zedi… :)>-:)>-:)>-:)>-:)>-

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