Sunday, April 20, 2025

Dr. Chiluba breaks down in court

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Second Republican President Frederick Chiluba Wednesday wept in court as he testified in a case where he is charged with plunder of national resources.

Dr. Chiluba lamented that members of his family no longer walk with their heads held high because of the theft allegations leveled against him.

He also said he was saddened that he has been subjected to ridicule and derogatory editorial comments in the Post Newspaper.

Dr. Chiluba said he was denied natural justice when parliament endorsed that his immunity be lifted, without being summoned to exculpate himself.

He however said parliament was careful as it only removed his immunity with regards to the offences he committed in his personal capacity.

Dr. Chiluba also told the court that he felt betrayed that late president Levy Mwanawasa the man he helped to ascend to power leveled false allegations against him.

He denied having stolen $47 million which was raised from the Luanshya Copper mine.

Dr. Chiluba testified that of the figure $35 million was in the safe custody of Zambia Consolidated Copper Mine (ZCCM) while $12 million went to the receivers Grant Thornton.

The former president is jointly charged with former directors of the Defunct Access Financial Service Aaron Chungu and Faustin Kabwe.

[ZNBC]

269 COMMENTS

  1. The other thread about porno was going to produce vikwati pa blog…this is better.

    Chiluba is a comedian eeeh!

  2. When he says family no longer hold their head high is it the family withe the castro’s and miko’s or the newly adopted regina familty?

  3. whatever goes around comes around….it´s about tym you provrd yourself to the courts of law.How many people cried and died cos of the tactics he came up with?Use your head cos i still remember when you went public saying crap on tv when Ben Kangwa interviewed you?

  4. Mpundu mune, the late president did just well by not being on your side.
    That is the reason why he (LPM)resigned from your rotten and corrupt government!

  5. Mr FTJ please just concentrate on defending yourself.Remember you also accused KK of stealing when you ascended into power but failed to take him to the courts of laws.

  6. Chiluba thinks that he is very clever.But I can tell you that he is one of the dullest character I have ever seen.He is behaving like kalulu in the old stories our glandfathers and mother used to retel to us.He is not crying but laughing at the docile judge.

    Squeeze the thief until he cries no more.

  7. # 9. Jamaco, dont worry, its understood. there are 3 subjects that have exited people all through the generations its Politics, Religion and Sex. I was just watching 184 coments in a short time !

    As for Chiluba, now he has the guts to mention LPM in his testimonies fung ahh!

  8. Dont even weep just wait for true justice of law to prevail over your cases, remember some families died because of your Govts carelessness to national properties

  9. Most of you bloggers you are direct beneficiaries of Chiluba`s resource management/mismanagement but here you are very happy that he is the one to answer at the end of the day. Even the current crop of the so called politicians are commedians, bantu bamobene, it will go no where

  10. what does this mean
    Dr. Chiluba testified that of the figure $35 million was in the safe custody of Zambia Consolidated Copper Mine (ZCCM) while $12 million went to the receivers Grant Thornton.

  11. Too bad how i wish the opposite was true by him having a good laugh in remembrance of his days as the president of zambia :((

  12. FtJ nizee. He wants public sympathy. He is the big fish that we want, please cage him also.
    Goodnight everyone….tomorrow is another day.

  13. Engine Bbuloko didn`t I see your contribution? Let me go and have a look. I think it was fun until people took it just a tard too far :d

  14. We like to embarras ourselves as Zambians. we should have appointed a Triburnal to hear the issue as other countries have done . Look at Nigeria they have not embrassed their former Heads of State however grave the offences were when they where in power.

  15. to the POST, TASKFORCE and those who have prejudged Chiluba.
    the symbol of Justice is a balanced scale. i first thot what the post’s judgments are from the court and chiluba is guilt of the cases. am shocked to discover that chiluba has just began his defence. what conviction does post has. i feel betrayed by the post and taskforce for not being just in this cause. no wonder they have been chased from the court. lets not distort factsbe professional. its like its a personal thing between chiluba and post management. filiuko tuleya uko chiluba akana ati mahalf aliko.

  16. I can’t wait to see this man with myriad names in kasalanga…. (A truck that ferries suspects prison to court and vise versa) :-w:-w:-w:-w:-w

  17. #22 Nice one and I humbly ask..who was in charge of Grant Thornton? Who made grant Thornton a sales commision of 35% on a poor country like Zambia? A commission never heard of anywhere in the world. And who wants now to be president thinking he can redeem Zambia after making cash on this deal? Please answer me bloggers. FTJ tell the nation..we are listening

  18. # 26 VINOBS you are too wise. i know u belong to PF. such thinking cannot be in HH or RB camp… :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:d/:d/:d/

  19. Wow! US$12m went to Grant Thornton? If that is true, that is an incredibly huge fee i.e. over 25% of the disposal proceeds going to the Receiver. Is that how HH made his money?

  20. mwatampa ukulila tailakosa,wait until judgement day and which family are you talking about when you have destroyed it.vera was meant to be your wife till death do you apart,but owing to your unfaithfulness , trickery mind and lust for woman you smeared her with filth to portray her as a wicked woman so that you get a leeway of getting another greed woman in regina mwanza and together you started spending a lavish life which even the kavindeles or HH who have the money do not lead.you chewed taxpayers money like a shareholder in microsoft or citibank gettin his dividends.so dont cry yet.shipikisha utwebe okowatwala dunsu ya chalo

  21. Bootlicker why do you only appear when it suits you. Your thinking really is shallow. Look Chiluba was in MMD, it`s MMD still in power now. You think you are being smart by saying it happened years ago?

    You people are lucky you are dealing with Africans. Server the moment. Who knows what happens tomorrow?

  22. No more dribbling. These are nothing but lamentations of a born, natural and chronic thief. They say “think b4 you act”. They also say “he who laughs last laughs the loudest”; it is now the Zambians whom he so severely violated who can laugh while the midget gnashes his teeth in anguish. Aka kamuntu! Ulechimona we mun’go wee! You even have the nerve to mention the late Levy – what desperation is this! Those lives you took away in vain by killing perceived opponents and by grave depravation of the common man are now haunting you – all the way to your last day!

  23. When you try the president about the scret service account there is so much that will not come out because there is so much hidden information.We will have then to demand and know how the account was created from Kaundas time,the funding of the account up intill now,and its operation and use of the account.This is when we can really know what money has been misused and who the major culplits are.Without this,the government is just waisting time and our money.If Mr Rupia Banda was courageous enough,he should have scrapped these cases and forcus on development because nothing will be achieved.

  24. # 33. MMD Chief Bootlicker, i think even in real life, you are a bootlicker. Your reasoning is out of sorts. You are MMD and FTJ was/is MMD and all this mess is about MMD so what are you talking about. Next you will accuse the Nchito brothers of plunder for the money they have been paid as prosecutors # 39, i agree with you.

  25. Chiluba is a big thief. He went also went as far as stealing onother man’s wife! cage him! his time is now! He doesnt want to reap what he sowed! shame on him!

  26. Crocodile tears..FTJ wants to hoodwink us..i remember him saying that Zambians were docile..what goes round comes around..just face the law my brother

  27. Correction to my post in #33 it is 25%. That is still a high commission and nice work if you can get it. And it only happens in Zambia. No wonder some people run around and claim they are a successful business man..wow!!!

  28. I hope the whole Hefty jay’s reign teaches us a lesson.We ,in future’dont need to chose leaders just for one Goliath.We need a formidable team that understand the challenges of the 21st centuary and have answers for them

  29. #39 & #45 Its not that I only appear when it suits me. Some of us have real jobs and can only blog after hours. Aslo the issue am addressing here is a commision issue and not MMD or FTJ. Let save that for another day when judgement is handed down. So if you want to attack me, please address the commision issue. I have my south Africans friends saying zambia is a great place ..you mean you can make such huge commisions? Most of them here get like 2% to 5% commission and that is the norm in the business around the world. This commission looks interesting.

  30. Let him feel it.He used to tell us to tighten our belts,yet he was amass wealth.Crocodile tears.
    You should show us the truth.

  31. #48

    Please learn to respect people. How many times have you come on here bragging that you got the job through MMD? Now you are speaking against your first MMD republican president.

    This is beyond being a biggot I am afraid. The next time you come on here please make sure you have something new not this daft stuff we have heard before. This man is one of yours!

    =))=))=))

  32. Baby C
    Its very elaborate. I wonder what FTJ was doing with it but on the other hand screwing his own people. Do you see him getting in a Cell ?

  33. meanwhile patrick phiri is still posting positive results.today’s 3-1 win gives him three in a row.Reinhard is heading to OMAN,is ti true?

  34. These cases should be expendiouly be handled,no forgiveness.No one is above the law.Even me if i break the law,the law should visit me.

  35. Rediculous,This Man has really taken the zambian courts for a ride.But every one can see through those crocodile tears.:-t

  36. CHRIS ROCK,

    WHY ARE YOU GETTING SOFT, HOW CAN PEOPLE LEARN IF THEIR ARE NO CONQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

    ANY WAY YOU ARE A JOKER.

  37. AM JUST HAVING COFFEE WITH SOME CAKE!! LUNCHTIME NOW!!I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE GUYS THAT WORK PA LT!! THEY HAVE MADE MY DAY WITH THAT THREAD!!!

    ANYWAYS VIVA ZAMBIA!!!

  38. But certain things before you do them, you need to do SWOT analysis.:d FTJ should have known that stealing has more Threats, and Weaknesses far more than Strengths and Opportunities.

    He has put his family in disrespect himself…alaaaah!

  39. HEY EVER SINCE LT DROPPED THAT THREAD IMWE, MY MIND IS ONLY SEEING NAKED PEOPLE!!! EVEN THE WORK MATES HERE =))=))=))=))=))

    AWE NALEKA :-t:-t:-t:-t:-t:-t:-t

  40. Lies and lies. He has told so many lies, he is now begining to believe them himself.

    The net is closing in. By implication, if former Zanaco boss musonda is guilty (allegedly)for helping Chiluba steal, it means Chiluba is guilty himself (allegedly). Chiluba Knows this and he is panicking

    Have you ever seen how common criminals no matter how big they are wimper when caught red handed?

    This should serve as a lesson for Zambia. We need quality leaders.

  41. Actaully, sobbing and weeping in court are tactics of crooked people directed to the charge to seek sympathy when sentencing him!%-(

  42. abena FTJ is doing the James Hardly Chase style.Cofusing your enemies by creating chaos were you are pinned to a tight corner

  43. Come on,that US$ 12Million that went to Grant Thornton did not go to Hakainde Hichilema’s personal account.Grant Thornton headed by HH at the time was the official receiver of the then defunct mine,the job of a Receiver is to preserve the remaining assets of a company that is winding up & distributing them against claims from affected parties ie creditors etc.You may label Chiluba as being dull but even he knows that Grant Thornton were the Receivers not HH in his personal capacity.

  44. Just acquit him, after all he was our head of state. You wont see the Americans dragging George W. Bush before the courts though he’s responsible for most of their current untold miseries.

  45. #104 Please find out for me what Germany authorities would do if Hitler surfaced. I think the reaction would be to do what Zambia is doing to Chiluba. Anyway Chiluba accused KK of stealing $7 bn and even involved Scotland yard

  46. #109 Yanjani, Hitler murdered over 6 million jews and was responsible for World War II. These atrocities can not be compared to whatever Chiluba has done.
    If Chiluba is as bad as you protray him, why is he not being persecuted by the Geneva Tribunal where Lubanga is currently answering a case of recruiting child soldiers?

  47. Democracy isnt only freedom to choose leaders but fertilize the course of justice and rule of law,to even the one who implement it. :d/**==

  48. 103;
    Haha aka HH was the boss at Grant Thornton. After money goes into company accounts; it is then shared as dividends to shareholders! That is how it got in the personal account of HH. Thats how come he can now declare assets of about $10m.(And HH wrongly thinks that having money is a leadership quality)

  49. CHILUBA’S govt made a lot of lives miserable.Companies like the Ndola copper refinery with all the tech and infra structure needed not to be neglected to a pathetic state were they are now.Kali very selfish!

  50. Sounds like GT the receiver got away with a lot of money. Is this 25% plus a normal cut in Zambia. What did ordinary Zambians get from such sales of the mines.

  51. #113 In my scheme of things stealing a peacock from state house, another mans wife or indeed stealing $7 million is one and the same thing depriving humanity of…in other words crimes against humanity

  52. “Dr. Chiluba lamented that members of his family no longer walk with their heads held high because of the theft allegations leveled against him.”

    Sad for you Mr Chiluba FTJ (Hon. Doc., Malawi) and your family. It is even more sad for us all Zambians as we can not move accross the Earth mingling with other world Citizens with our heads held high up because our economy as a Nation Zambia is just too weak. Cijazya nosni kapati for we are looked down upon by people who know that wee have the potential to be better than where you left us and the mess your then MMD Administration left us in.

  53. On “He also said he was saddened that he has been subjected to ridicule and derogatory editorial comments in the Post Newspaper”, the POST are now Undereducate’s Imagebuilders and since you dribbled that Mr Sata from succeeding you as Zambian President I am sorry they seem as if they will continue writing those useless editorials they have been for a long time.

    I real sympathise with you Dr Chiluba, I wish I could empathise with you too. Anyhow, do not worry much as the REAL TRUTH is slowly coming out. It appears the TASK FORCE and the POST have been in a covert arrangement to paint you with mad, but the TRUTH is catching up with them too. Kindest regards to you, Dr FTJ Chiluba.

  54. just check out the evil woman the guy is stuck without a plan but she still looks contemptious with a look set on the money!! some women haaa!

  55. #122 Maestro Hhehhehhehhe you are spot on. FTJ has become a source of our ridicule. And his followers have deserted him…..shame

  56. Iwe uleipusha ati was he sobbing or wailling,wether he was sobbing wailing or crying. The fact is that ifilamba fya chifuma.My heart is full of mercy for this man. lets just forgive him. Iwe Jamaco finshi kanshi efyo wachimona.Ifya lenga ati ulemona fye ama bwamba?

  57. 125 Yanjani Zulu greetings and great stuff. Dr FTJ Chiluba now is in a UPND campaign Team for 2011 as he has officially cleared UPND president HH from any corrupt practices.

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    LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambians in 2009 and the future.

  58. “He denied having st o l en $47 million which was raised from the Luanshya Copper mine.

    Dr. Chiluba testified that of the figure $35 million was in the safe cust ody of Zambia Consolidated Copper Mine (ZCCM) while $12 million went to the receivers Grant Thornton.”

    I am glad you have given information that has cleared president Hakainde Hichilema,as Grant Thornton was a RECEIVER not HH as a person,to all those who claim that he st o le Luanshya Copper Mines money or is corrupt. Please,this is good as you have now joined the U-Team campaign TEAM for 2011 elections to provide Zambia with REAL CHANGE that may bring us economic independence should Zambian people take you message seriously.

  59. How do Grant Thornton end up with getting USD 12 million? DAYLIGHT ROBBERY. Easy to see how HH made his money. Imagine if he became pres and took 25% of anything GRZ made.

  60. “$12M WENT TO GRANT THORNTON” – AND WHERE WERE YOU WHEN ALL THIS WAS HAPPENING? WE PUT ALL OUR TRUST IN YOU BY VOTING YOU INTO STATE HOUSE AND TODAY YOU CAN TURN AROUND AND SAY ASK GRANT THORNTON. WE DONT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT GRANT THORNTON, WHY DIDNT YOU QUESTION THIS AT THE TIME. YOU SHOULD HAVE CHALLENGED THIS ENORMOUS BILL. IF THERE WAS ANY JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD, CHILUBA BE IN JAIL BY NOW

  61. I strongly feel that there are some other characters who should have been prosecuted or probed.They are seemingly to be innocent when they are the ones who were incharge of privatisation of these mines.HH that man dont think he is innocent.He should explain how some of these transactions were done.We shall therefore never trust such a man to rule Zambia.

  62. 95. smal greetings. Following your “Lies and lies. He has told so many lies, he is now begining to believe them himself”, I just thought that it will be grat if I share what my former secondary school teacher used to tell us always.

    It is simply “if you constantly repeat a lie, it becomes a truth”.

    So, let us await and see how much this statement will hold, if Mr Chiluba FTJ (Hon. Doc., Malawi) is not telling the truth.

  63. On Grant Thornton being a RECEIVER of LCM:

    Defintions of RECEIVER or RECEIVERSHIP are given below:

    The state of affairs when a receiver is appointed to recover debts of a company which has failed. In the case of a large company, with subsidiaries, the receiver may seek a buyer for a subsidiary. This often leads to a MBO, an MBI or a trade sale.
    ww w.vantisplc. com/ Vantis/ Services/ CorporateFinance/ JargonBuster .htm

    Is a means of handling the estate of a distressed debtor. Its purpose is to rehabilitate, but if this cannot be accomplished, receivership proceedings will result in liquidation.
    ww w.crfonline.o rg/ orc/ glossary/ r. html

  64. When is the shi tito episode come to an end?All these years of back & forth?Anyway,we’ll wait & see what comes out of it all but am not optimistic of a fair ending

  65. Iwe ka Lunatic Hhehehehe,why are you defending HH?where you there when the quetionable transactions were taking place. Dont just ague without facts.

  66. # 138. Chewe, when you say “We shall therefore never trust such a man to rule Zambia” who is the “we”? just asking….spare my neck lol! 😕

  67. Lelo. Ba FTJ Koseni. Why cry about the post when you took them to court? Why not sue them for defamation if they are wrong. They have challenged you time and time again. Remember Kaunda in Jail. What Family Castro walking with his head up high.

    What goes around comes around. Akatanshi taka lisha akalekelesha kalalisha!!!!

  68. 147. Engine Bbuloko greetings and surely who is the “we” by Chewe? It is important to always use correct English when referring to oneself as an INDIVIDUAL!

    This is a common mistake by some few bloggers. I am always left to wonder whether they do it deliberately to cheat many more Zambians or they feel they are very many while they are actually single entities who normally don’t matter as their vote is one out of about 3 million Zambian voters.

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    LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambians in 2009 and the future.

  69. =)) LOL!!! FTJ ntekunya!! What shame? His adopted Mwanza family is busy selling in that boutique and stealing other people’s men like their mother

    Limbbi ni Castro- But last i saw him was on the front page of the post very drunk!! so Kaya

    Just dance to your music. elo waleiba tawalelila!!!

  70. Maestro am not talking to you.Am trying by all means to ignore you oke,i dont want to waste my time talking to you an educated Villager who doesnt understand anything.Engine Block,there are so many people who have no faith in this man.He is not a politician but a business man.He doesnt know how politics are done.Am answering Engine not anyone else.Engine talks sense i can debate with him. Not a character who just want to start with me.

  71. You Lunatic,frustrated and dull Villager Maestro. Leave Chewe alone,i have been observing your behaviour towards him. I warned you that am here to protect bloggers because your behaviour is so nasty to many people.So behave yourself am watching.

  72. 152. Chewe, 29 years old, greetings. On “Am trying by all means to ignore you oke,i dont want to waste my time talking to you an educated Villager who doesnt understand anything”, yes I am an EDUCATED VILLAGER who is more formidable than you, Chewe – some coward using anonymous names instead of standing up to show that you are a man and not a 5 year old boy. In fact a girl!

    Know that as long as you write nonsense on this blog or elsewhere I will put up my opinion there about any comments I deem fit.

    Losers always resote to cowardice and it is normal. Stop being emotional and acknowledge reality that you can never control me.

    Have a nice day though.

  73. Both Mwansawasa and currently RB’s administrations have been recruiting Chiluba’s retired ministers. Some, like Eric Silwamba, are still scot-free.

    I am still waiting to see when democracy’s defender-in-chief GW Bush will actually go in for crimes against committed in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries that the US had no respect for during his administration.
    When GW Bush went to announce America’s invasion of Iraq, each missile fired into the air cost American taxpayers USD600,000!!
    Leave the guy alone. After all, how many civil servants actually EARN

  74. 153. Wewewe and “Che-we” have something in common. I hope these cowards will not change to another anonymous name.

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    LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambians in the past, now in 2009 and in the future years come. 2011 waboola gentelemani wacinicini corruption clean UPND president Hakainde Hichilema, HH, with support from Mr Chiluba FTJ (Honourary Doctor, Malawi).

  75. I only have one name and thats Chewe.Am not like you whose behaviour is so irritating.You have an evil Spirit you.You hate peace all you like is fighting with people.I have no time to waste on you,uko ala.

  76. I actually did not finish.

    Leave the guy alone. After all, how many civil servants actually EARN their wealth.

    I do not see the difference between a day-light robber (that FTJ is being compared with) and someone who attends a million meetings and workshops in the name of GRZ, only getting allowances and gratuity for dirty and worthless policies!

    Viva FTJ, VIVA

  77. “Second republican president Fredrick Chiluba has told a magistrate court that he paid late president Levy Mwanawasa’s debt of K300m to the Reserve Food Agency from the intelligence account.
    Mr. Chiluba also told the court Tuesday that he received a lot of money from well wishers from all over the world and that such monies were meant for his personal use as well as MMD party activities.”

    Source: ww w. zambianwatchdog. com/ ?p=997

    This is really cool. How I wish the late former President Dr LP Mwanawasa was there to defend himself or just say something about what exactly happened.

  78. “Dr. Chiluba also told the court that he felt betrayed that late president Levy Mwanawasa the man he helped to ascend to power leveled false allegations against him.”

    Interest data indeed and I surely miss late former President LP Mwanawasa.

    Hpwever, Mr Chiluba FTJ (Honourary Doctor, Malawi) I would like to remind you of the old adage “there is no friendship on business”. This equally goes to #157.Chewe, 29 years old.

    The TRUTH always stands the test of time as accurately recorded in the Holy Scriptures instead of allegations. The TRUTH indeed sets free and it shall continue coming out especially when Jesus Christ shall come as King of His Creation and promised to all ages.

  79. You ka Lunatic Maestro,am not Chewe.And i cant fear you at all,this is not the first time am blogging here.I just took a break because of how dull people like you make the blog boring. I have been out for months now.And when i came back,i warned of your hostile behaviour towards so many people here.All the bloggers if this Lunatic and dull Villager provokes you,just let me know.The chap is mad,and am here to remove usilu wake.

  80. 153. Wewewe and “Che-we” have something in common. I hope these cowards will not change to another anonymous name.

    “something in common” means quite a lot include mental exposure, insulting, etc. All the best your endeavour.

    FREE ADVISE to you #161. Wewewe, many came with overzealousness like you including Chewe, but they left me standing. Cowards will always be losers!

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    LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambians in the past, now in 2009 and in the future years come. 2011 waboola gentelemani wacinicini corruption clean UPND president Hakainde Hichilema, HH, with support from Mr Chiluba FTJ (Honourary Doctor, Malawi).

  81. People are just jealous of HH.You chewe and weewe or chiwelewele are one and the same person envious of our man HH’s success. Trust me our spirit is too strong to be broken. If you attack us we shall defeat you.

  82. Maestro Hhehhehhe, Clearly birds of a feather will flock together. You say FTJ supports your Idol HH? Figures. It also shows your personal moral value system. Chewe and Wewewe at least know that you can lift the corporate veil and get to people like HH trying to hide behind their companies. Pity your mind will not accept facts that are as clear as day when they touch on Mighty unfaliable HH.

  83. The US$12 million payment to Grant Thornton certainly is not reasonable. Can HH and Chiluba give the nation more details? The fact that Chiluba has not disclosed which people was sending money to Zamtrop account does not help matters. It is possible that Grant Thornton ended up paying back some of this money to Zamtrop for personal use by Chiluba. HH has a lot to answer for, in addition to this US$12 million that they received, Grant Thornton were also auditors for ZANACO were the Zamtrop account was maintained. HH therefore knew what was going on in Zamprop account at ZANACO, if he did not know then how then was Grant Thornton certifying ZANACO financial statement?

  84. 164. Maestro Alterego, all the best you in your “164. Maestro Alterego”.

    According to me, you will soon be made to shut up for throwing lies about president Hakainde Hichilema, HH, due to nothing but Jealous.

    On ” You say FTJ supports your Idol HH?”, HH is not or will never be my idol. I believe in God, the Creator of this Universe and everything in it. On my comment that Mr Chiluba FTJ (H. Doc., Malawi) is supporting HH, I simply mean that he is clearing your alleged HH issues before the elections of 2011. There is nothing more or less about this.
    SIMPLE, unless you have something wrong in your mind!
    Until you come up with something sensible, i.e worthy, I am over and out.

  85. Bane be objective enough….Alaaah!
    It was not HH…it is Grant Thornton. These are highly qualified GLOBAL group of accountants bane of which, HH hapened to be the MD for the Zed department..Nichani kansi?

    Not imwe bamene muchaya tu NATEC, elo @ I did accountancy. Matuvi!. Grant Thornton and PriceWaterHouseCoopers are Global. :)>-:)>-:)>-:)>-

  86. Waona manje ftj when you were revealing the secret tunnels with your lackson nthani it was nice and sweet tepapa kakutalala boyi.Uchilipo pembela first.nemilandu wakwata yafulisha,nokupoka bamukabene abo abapuba abalefwaya ukulya naiwe isho wadumine.

  87. Crocodile tears and seeking sympathy. Lets hear the facts and see if the Zambian courts will find him guilty as well.

  88. Crocodile tears, Mr Titus Mpundu Chabala Kafupi, cabashani ba FTJ? iminsoshi mu court in front of Mrs Regina Mwanza without any shame, hah!!

    You will never stop playing trick on people’s emotions.Anyway, you have no feelings for anybody except ensuring your survival in any situation and that is why you even lie to God your creator in your prayers. Good luck, but the London court has already convicted you in a civil prosecution, where are you going? Any light at the end othe tunnel with tears in your eyes?? :((:((:((:((:((

  89. Dr. Chiluba, don’t worry. Everything will be fine, these Zedians are just a bunch losers. Am behind, viva FTJ

  90. iWE LEKA UKULILA IFYABUFI.pELAKO INDALAMA KUMWANA WESUKULU KU RUSSIA FOR HIS OPERATION.NOT JUST BUYING AMAFUTA FOR THAT CONCUBINE OF YOURS YOU CALL REGINA.

  91. # 176. Chani Fishman

    ARE YOU AND FTJ OF THE SAME CLAN? EXPLAINS HOW YOU ARE FOND OF EATING HIS SHEIIT!!! YOU BOOTLICKER!!! WALI PENA

  92. Karma does not take long to play out sometimes. It’d be of course immature to laugh @ Chiluba’s situation, as it is not funny. But Mr. Chiluba should now reflect his time as President. He sold our country for a song, there are the unexplained deaths of a good number of people. The man should be lucky he’s not looking at a life sentence. We saw the EXCESSES of the lavish life his family lead- bills which were unjustifiably footed by the Zambian treasury. What is unfortunate is that the prosecution has been selective- but again life is not fair. Some people on the forum have rightly brought up ppl like HH. To whose benefit was it that the mines were undersold?

  93. #179. Chani Fishman

    IF YOU ARE A CASTRO ON CHILUBA’S SIDE THEN BE IT!!! YOU SEEM TO BE BIASED BY SOME IGNORANCE IMPLEMENTED BY YOUR FATHERS!!YOU LUCK OBJECTIVITY!! I CAN NOT BLAME YOU SINCE YOU ARE STILL IN CHAINS.
    FREE YOURSELF AND THEN COMMENT!!
    YOU ARE A SHAME IN YOUR BIG FAMILY OF THIEVES!!
    ZAMBIA AS A COUNTRY SUFFERS BECAUSE ALL THESE OLD POLITICIANS THINK LIKE YOU!! I AM SURE ONE OF YOUR FOREFATHERS WAS A SHOE CLEANER FOR THE COLONIALS. REWIND YOUR DNA AND KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS. IMBUSHI JA ZAMBIA IS WHAT YOU ARE!! I CAN GO ON BUT YOU ARE A WAIT OF TIME. PLEASE CHILUBA YOU THIEF!!

  94. Please don’t insult people who went to School. Chiluba is NOT a Dr. Chiluba and SHOULD NEVER use that title anywhere. He is a grade 7 with dubious credentials which can never be backed by any academic reference. He has never told you about anyone who taught him, or former classmates. The man has been a crook since childhood but our laws were weak and he continues to exploit that weakness in our laws. He denied us a chance to enact a constitution of our choice because he knew we would rise against him using that constitution. Send him to jail if he fails to take oath in court. People cannot suffer this way because of one selfish person. My heart bleeds in the eyes of such dishonesty.

  95. Maestro your HH has blood on his hands. I brought up this issue with you sometime last year (though under a different username). There is nothing HH will do for Zambia but loot as well. At some point we will need to open up the books in detail on what really happened during privatization. We want to know the illicit Zambian beneficiaries who betrayed our country. Clearly that whole privatization is marred with irregularities and stinks of corruption. How did our country lose so much honestly?

  96. “Dr. Chiluba said he was denied natural justice when parliament endorsed that his immunity be lifted, without being summoned to exculpate himself.”

    CHILUBA KNEW THE LAW AND ALSO KNEW THAT THE CONSTITUTION WOULD PROTECT HIS POSITION!! HE FORGOT THAT THE SAME CONSTITUTION HE DECIDEDED TO CHANGE AS IF HE WAS CHANGING UNDERWEARS, WOULD TURN AGAINST HIM!!

    HIS ACTUAL PROBLEM IS THAT HE FEELS NOT PROTECTED ENOUGH!! HE FEELS THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PRESENT CONSTITUTION!!
    THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GAME BECOMES A HUNTING PARTY!! THE HUNTER IS TURNED INTO THE HUNTED :d THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL “NATURAL LAW” YOU FERAL CAT

  97. The US$12 million explains why HH will never attack FTJ. For your information, what FTJ used to do was that if he gave you a contract to do some work on behalf of Govt, Govt will over pay you, then share the excess with FTJ (nchekeleko). This is what happened here. US$12 million is not a small amount of money. HH will never, never denounce FTJ’s presidency. The guys chewed/ate our money in the name of receiver. Believe this or not. This is the truth.

  98. :-?The BIBLE says forgive 70×70. But there has to be confession first. Ba chiluba naimwe just confess nkani i sile a a a!

  99. It is easy to make an issue out of this and blame HH but remember that HH presented himself through Grant Thorton. There is no garantee that if Grant Thorton did not win the bid the bid could not have been given to a foreign accounting firm with the same conditions.May be Grant Thorton was the cheapest. Even the Nchito brothers are getting lots of money from the task force and it will be wrong tomorrow to allege that they got money inappropriately when you gave them a job to do at an agreed fee. Grant Thorton was given a job to do at an agreed fee. In fact HH is a good negotiator and Chiluba was a bad negotiator. We need a good negotiator in state house.

  100. Aaahh! he has even the courage of mentioning LPM!!! So you thought you can buy brains, not Obama brains baba. Only the dull, sleepy nyamasoyas can suck your D***

  101. #193/194, you pieace of uncivilized black mamba. Sure LPM will never rest in peace, he can’t leave problems aganist his friends, poor Zambians, including Mugabe who escorted him to where he is, God knows. In life its better to be neutral than call your friends sinners, you never know who go for judgement first. Look now, FTJ has chance to repeant…

  102. This ftj of yours can never repent,elo he’s a very good comedian,He keeps talking about christianity but he got someone’s wife without shame because she wanted to be first lady.She tried so hard to ensure he had the third term but aisakumana nabo ama zambians tabafulwa bwino ngabafulwa.So ftj stop those crocodile tears and be man enough to stand trial-you didn’t see it coming but well there you’re what goes up must always come down .Mwenze palulu lomba mulikuni bata?

  103. ftj muntu wqandi chakusanga chakusanga leka ukulila uli mukulu.why are you trying to win our sympathy? Just face the consequences.indalama shachalo ati nalesankanya nesha personal-kantemba zambia bushe?I hope these courts judge you accordingly. 😡

  104. Atase FTJ, those are croc tears, defend yourself, u thought you were clever. Your next of kin and your kith have realised niwe kakawalala. That is why In your own village despite your campaigning for RB, you lost with him to One Michael Sata convincingly. FTJ shut up!!!

  105. Atase ba ka FTJ,those are croc tears, defend yourself, u thought you were clever. Your next of kin and your kith have realised niwe kakawalala. That is why In your own village despite your campaigning for RB, you lost with him to One Michael Sata convincingly. FTJ shut up!!!

  106. Is wednesday chilubas name as well LT???
    Kwaliba ati they lifted the immune on his personal charges…but ignored the offences involving the govt
    That means hes guilty and wishes every other person he got juiced with go down with him…

    Hes cost Zambia so much, cant believe i liked him, groomed kaponya.
    He should pay for Luanshya.

    CRY MY BELOVED COUNTRY!!!!

  107. No forgiveness.No one is above the law.Chiluba’s crocodile tears should not prevent justice to go no.

    Let me send a sounding warning to those feeling sympathy on Chiluba,that no one is above the law,period.

    The churches supporting to stop the case,are the ones who benefited greatly from the Presidential Slash Fund.

    Stop talking much about the Chiluba case,let the court determnie his innocences.

  108. Plunder cases have reached an advanced stage and Chiluba knows what is following him.Breaking down in court means alot.
    1)to be behind the bar
    2)to leave behind Regina
    3)may to find it easy to get his pension
    4)no freedom of movement
    5)no freedom of worshipping
    6)no freedom to vote
    7)no freedom to associate with people
    8)etc
    The list is endless.However,he is not the first former president in the world to be behind bars,though first president to be behind bars in Zambia,if the court will decide so.Let me not be cited for comptempt.

  109. This small m@th@focker’s a pain in the as$, pretending he’s innocent when all along he’s been stealing the wealth from the people. What an !mbec!le. D!sgust!ng little pr!ck.

  110. kafupi people were killed during your time finshi olelila nomba yazanda. Olichipuba you will get what you deserve

  111. #214,215, 216,
    awee nomba naumfwa.. naumfwa uluse!!!

    pantu ena pakwiba aleti mbulilefye….

    aleti, ati nabulapofye…
    nomba ni payback time… ;););)

  112. Dr. Chiluba breaks down in court.Below is what is going to miss

    1)?
    2)Regina
    3)may to find it easy to get his pension
    4)freedom of movement
    5)freedom of worshipping
    6)freedom to vote
    7)freedom to associate with people
    8)the list is endless.
    add to the list what you think is going to miss

  113. Still more mwansekesha ba Ze Biggie…

    Gday to you and all the bloggers having a big laugh at this.. this is our time.. he had his time no ubupulumushi/bukachenjela wakwe…. :d=))=))=))=))

  114. #218,
    (9)Ka Regina kalababutuka,the same way she left her first husband,
    kalemoneka aka yaka sana,
    no kuchensa..kutemwa indalama!!!!!…
    (10) Ka kafupi, kena kalaipipilako. (will be shorter in height than now)

    Iam out of here.. talk more tomorrow….:-h

  115. **==

    the worst part on earth is to have a case,you cant go free!!
    JESUS was totured,hammered,accused but managed to ressurect,FYAUME!!!But the rest of us,chiluba inclusive no mercy [-o<[-o<

  116. #221
    You never know,may be even Regina will go in.
    Chiluba in
    The big question for Chiluba is who will be looking for his house and what he worked for 10 years as President of Zambia.
    Dr. Chiluba breaks down in court

  117. Please leave out HH the US$12Million was not paid to HH in his personal capacity but Gant Thorton a professional firm where he served as Director. HH at time referred to FTJ as monkey left in a maize field and there was harsh reaction from FTJ.Wait and see the man is going to spill alot of beans. Its sad that FTJ is regretting having been betrayed by a man he helped to become President of Zambia. In case FTJ has forgotten, he used short cuts to scheme what he did. Why regret now? He breached the Party consititution by passed everyone in NEC and hand picked late Levy. The man should blame himself. He scored his own team and what next 7 solid yrs of matata. Weye wankala muntu wa bule.

  118. #227
    Chiluba knew the wrongs he did as president.So he wanted someone to protect him.
    He settled on him because he was neutral(Levy) and he was a lawyer.Chiluba’s thinking was different from Levy.

  119. Bloggers bloggers bloggers, no fighting on this blog. We should aall be a family here. Abena Maestro fimofimo, i trust you are wise enough to ignore some comments even towards you, after all, you are the award winner, show some maturity by not repeating to anything thrown at you, we like your mature in depth comments even though some of us are not for HH

  120. I’m not FTJ fan…but I still his corruption cases were politically inspired by the late LPM.

    How long has it taken now…more than 5 yrs. Surely if the state with its instrument in place should have have enough evidence to convict or aquit FTJ..

  121. Kafupi – if you have nothing to hide why not hold the bible and take oath? It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

    Ka Midget iwe!!

  122. #233
    I concur with you,but cases of that nature takes long to be reached conclusively.Take examples of former Indonenia President.

  123. I am glad FTJ is finally defending himself,there are more revelations in todays Zambia Daily Mail,if he keeps it that way maybe he’ll regain a little bit of respect,some allegations he’s making make sense a lil bit.

  124. 231. Kasai Kanko greetings. You have contributed very well and I have been implementing this strategy for some time now.

    I will be back later on in the day.

    ===
    LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambia in 2011.

  125. I feel for the former president. Am sure this is what even God’s judgement will be on most of us. Be courageous FTJ and tell the truth..

  126. kabala good you’ll cry more when u r convicted!!! Good to hear your family is paying too, but not yet, the were walking around like Zambia belonged to them. now you degenerates will understand why self respect is a virtue.convict him and save zambia’s moral beliefs

  127. Mudala when you are called a thief even your own mother will question you what more a friend so dont blame Mwanawasa ….just know how to talk nicely to them maybe kaya kapena banga ku chitilechifundo…

  128. #27 KING COBRA
    Iam surprised at your ignorance about the origin of all these cases against Chiluba. It was the post that started calling him THIEF before government started the prosecution. The POST has since dared ka Chiluba to take them to court and surprisingly he hasn’t. When Chiluba took HH to court for calling him a thief and comparing him to a monkey Chiluba was swift to tak legal action. The POST once again challenged him if he could take them to court since have always called him a thief, Chiluba once again surprisingly shied away. It is no surprise that the POST is a pain in his bum, and as Zambians we should take keen interest why FTJ not suing the POST.

  129. From the comment….”Dr. Chiluba testified that of the figure $35 million was in the safe custody of Zambia Consolidated Copper Mine (ZCCM) while $12 million went to the receivers Grant Thornton”……Was he head of Finance to know such details of what was happening to the cash?????

  130. Even Reginas former husband was also given some as he was pretending to be a family friend before he grabed the wife–shame.

  131. Why is FTJ so keen to ensure the POST not near him? FTJ has never challenged the POST to prove their allegations and have dared him to try them in court!! If Chiluba has a name to protect he should sue the POST and Zambians will know the truth!!!

  132. 185. Chinsali Inc greetings. On “Maestro your HH has blood on his hands. I brought up this issue with you sometime last year (though under a different username).”, firstly I do not own president HH. He is a big man almost the level of being my father,so please be sensible in your language.
    Secondly,provide proof on your alleged blood on HH’s hands, otherwise you are simply showing the whole world how dull you are by failing to understand that HH has nothing to do with this except that the company he was representing did a good job that was tasked to them by the then Chiluba Administration MMD GRZ that comprised characters of little education like the Undereducate Michael Chilufya Sata.

  133. FTJ has forgotten that he also locked alot of people including Dr Kaunda and President Rupiah Bands of false charges.

    He smiles and celebrated when Kaunda was in prison.What FTJ forgot was that times change and by locking up Dr Kaunda,he was setting a very bad precedence.

    Come on FTJ,it time to taste your own medicine !! Zambians have not forgotten that FTJ was corrupt fro day one in office.Have you all forgoten about the shopping spree in South Africa by Chibwe in 1992? Thats was the very first sign of a corrupt government of FTJ.

    The man must be tried and if found guilty-he must serve a prison sentence as a lesson to all politicians in Zambia.Chiluba thought he owned Zambia.

  134. He will be remembered as a Man who started nepotism,tribalism,regionalism and criminalism where we had alot of assasinations,barglary and theft.How do you explain all this?.The Economy became worse!,why????.Football became a disaster,why??.Our Former President commited crimes against Humanity and should be sent to the Hague,like Charles Taylor.Stealing from your own Children is unpardonable,its like killing or genocide.How can you explain the larvish shoes & suits we see him wearing whilst the country is on its knees?.He thot Mwanawasa was dull and wanted to use him as a pawn.NO!

  135. You are very right.FTJ thinks all Zambians have a short memory like him.Well,we dont.Some of uf know what happened soon after he took over.It was done slope for Zambia despite millions of dollars being given to Zambia by donors.

    Now FTJ wants to blame the British.We have heard that before Mr FTJ.That is Mugabe’s excuse,Zambians dont what to hear that rubbish.They want to hear what happened during the privatisation process.They want to what happened to the assets of Eastern Province Co-operative Union ? Why did FTJ think money donated to MMD could be used for his personal businesses.Honestly,a person who thinks like that can think state money is also his own.What a disgrace!!!

  136. He should play it the”TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION WAY”…plea guilty and claim temporal insanity (lasting entire period of Presidency) and ask to be forgiven…otherwise he is just wasting time and MORE MONEY!

  137. Chiluba must just apologise and return what he lootted. Zambians easily forgive and then he’ll get some rest.

  138. Problem is that the current govt is not transparent.this thief/plunderer should ve been arrested years ago.wat are they protecting.i wud luv if he was sentenced to 20000000000000years in prison with hard labour.

    kabolala.tek him to Garden so he gets killed like those theives on news

  139. If Christians behaved like Chiluba then I would rather not be one of them. But I know, Chiluba is not a Christian so I would rather live a Godly life and let Chiluba wallow in his fantasy and life of a hypocrite until the four walls close in on him. Judgement days both on earth and heaven for him are not very far away.

  140. # 36, # 262 Its not that we have never made mistakes but “some animals are more equal than others” just like some people are more quity than others, we aint trying to kill him, we just want him to pay for it , by being locked away or giving back Zambia the money he plunded….

    See, our mistakes hasnt cost the economy of zambia neither has our petty theft from our parents???

    Chapwa!!!

  141. Oh president Chiluba.My heart goes out to you.Its actually a shame that you should resort to crying as a way of exculpating yourself..I do feel that you do owe it to Zambians though to expalain.On the whole I am personally getting tred of these prolonged cases.Its about time Chiluba was either charged or let go.Chiluba’s case should save as a lesson to all of us who offer any service to others.What about a plea bargain at this stage?Is it too late, perhaps?

  142. How did a house that was in his daughters name get paid for through Zamtrop. He put Late Levy in power as he thought he’d be a puppet president and Levy still remembered when all the thieving started when he resigned as VP after his accident!

    By the way what is up with the whole CIA prison in Zed. Who set this up FTJ or KK?!! Iye,I’m so glad Barack Obama is US president because innocent people were being tortured and killed on our soil.

    The political dribbler now weeps because he scored an own goal!

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