The Tribunal constituted to investigate alleged corruption and abuse of office involving Transport and Communication Minister Dora Siliya has concluded its work.
The tribunal has submitted the summarized findings and observations of the report to President Rupiah Banda.
President Banda has paid tribute to the Tribunal for its hard work it has done in investigating the Transport and Communications alleged abuse of office.
Mr Banda said it was gratifying to have a judiciary that is dedicated to work for the people of Zambia for justice unity and peace in the country.
The President was speaking when the Tribunal Chairperson Dennis Chirwa presented the summarized report at State House today.
Mr Banda told the tribunal that he will study the documents and will soon issue the statements to the nation as soon as possible .
And Justice Chirwa says it was a challenge to come up with a comprehensive report because of the many transcripts on the case.
Judge Chirwa said despite the challenges, the tribunal has managed to submit on time the report to the Head of State.
The tribunal was investigating allegations that Ms. Siliya cancelled a tender awarded to Thales Air Services of France to install radar equipment at Livingstone and Lusaka International airports.
Ms. Siliya was also accused of disregarding the legal opinion of the Attorney General prior to signing the MOU between Government and RP capital partners of Cayman Islands.
RP capital partners have signed an MOU with government to evaluate ZAMTEL assets before it is partially privatised.
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Nkani yalula manje
I will wait for the verdict before I comment.
Eagerly waiting for the verdict
Wow! this was a big deal afterall!
Dora was quickly castigated because she is a woman! and her hair pieces and red lipstick didnt help her either. All the male thieves are still out there with no tribunals. shame!
Submitted findings to RB???
Wow that was quick, why didn’t they tribunals on ftj, katele kalumba, xavier chungu and the rest. that could have saved the country a lot of money..anyway maybe I know nothing about law, can our educated friends in law unpack this for some of us..why not tribunals on people like ftj katele & co
Mikomfwa u are ignorant.where are u basing your argument? Be informed the first two tribunals to be ever set in Zambia investigated abuse done by men. The first one was lemmy Mushota and the second one was set up to investigate Machungwa, Mandandi and Katele. Dora’s is the third one
I have a question for some lawyers out there for my personal clarity on this matter:
Isn’t the Chief Justice not the one intitled to have receive the tribunal’s report before the President? The way it is In now, what can stop the president from using the report as a compendium to influence the verdict of the jury? How does Seperation of Powers serve it’s purpose then?
Please answer me before I retire to bed in the next 2 hrs.
Many thanks in advance!
I have the same concern my brother Nine Chale
Woman or not, Dora’s actions were illegal and she needs to be held accountable. While there may be truth to what you have observed my dear friend from Mikomfwa, there is need for all Zambians to take a stand and hold these public servants accountable…. male or female!
The tribunal set up to probe Transport and Communications Minister Dora Siliya Thursday evening presented its report to President Rupiah Banda.Tribunal Chairperson Dennis Chirwa said he could not explain the findings of the tribunal to the president as the president was rushing to Northwestern province to commission the Lumwana Mine.
But the Watchdog has been informed that Ms Siliya was found culpable on one charge but cleared of the others.
The Watchdog has been told that Ms Siliya was found culpable on the charge of awarding RP capitals a US$2 million contract to value Zamtel assets disregarding legal advice from the attorney general’ chambers.
According to information received, Ms Siliya was cleared of allegations of unilaterally canceling a duly awarded contract by Zambia…
A mark of a great Leader lies in taking bold decisions in the interest of the nation with every sense of truthfulness , regardless whether that decision makes him popular or otherwise in certain circles . This is the time for RB …….Presidency has never been that easy .
I absolutely agree that public servants should be held accountable but it should be a fair deal. Look at the case of Regina and Fred. She was sent to prison and Fred is still out and getting airtime in the media. The tribunals will not serve anything until they are done right. #8 Akulu Mpuno, you have no idea what ignorance is, so get yourself some rhinonoplasty.
# 12 , simply put , there were three cases for probe against Hon Siliya , she has been cleared on two and found wanting on one…….
Who is RB and what are his functions?:-?
I will also TRY to wait for the Verdict from the head of the Judiciary RB:-??
It’s a shame that the findings of a tribunal to investigate actions of an individual could be presented to the ENTIRE head of state…..what a joke we are as a country. The president is supposed to stay outside matters such as this one because he is not competent to make a decision on that!!
OK Ive just done some references and I have learnt that the tribunal is actually higher in instance than the jury so there’s no interference between the two. In this case the tribunal can submit it’s findings, which is actually is the verdict itself, to the president . I think were already there.
#10 Akulu Mpuno what do you think?
Ba dr what does rhinoplasty have2 do wth understanding the meaning of ignorance? On dora, everyone has skeletons in some closets, if you want it revealed just provoke the post, if dora didnt step on2 their toes, all this woudnt have been revealed
I am not a lawyer , and I seek the guidance of learned brothers/ sisters in law pertaining to the Zambian law . What has been the precedence on such issues ? Where does the report go? well all have been going to the head of state. Perhaps NCC can change this …..blessing in disguise , the scandal ……
#20 because his name is akulu mpuno (big nose), maybe he needs to get it smaller so that he can understand things better before calling people ignorant.
#9, I am not a lawyer or anything but I would think the reason the president gets the tribunal report is because ministers are appointed by the president and, therefore, under his authority (executive branch). He is the one who “hires” and “fires” ministers. If I am not mistaken, the tribunal carries the same weight as a criminal “court case” only as far as evidentiary procedures are concerned, and does not go as far as rendering judgment. Tribunals are very unique occurrences in law/constitution and should be treated as such. That is why, constitutionally, only the president (and I think Parliament) can empanel a tribunal. The tribunal only recommends criminal prosecution if the evidence so warrants. And the only thing the president can do is fire his/her erring minister. Am I…
Bottom power at work, we gonna see how sweet Dora is!
#23 Yambayamba I appreciate your contribution. I will join you all tommorrow again. Goodnight.
I hope she walks out free,doing time aint good for a mama like her! Dora keep ya fingers closed and trust in your maker,we both make mistakes.Jah Bless
Dora has been cleared. Let her get back to work. Lessons should been learn t. Do not work with impunity, serve the people humbly. No short cuts, as the case was in petauke. But still Tribunal RP deal still smacks of something rotten
RB appoints his cousin as high commissioner to Maputo. Corruption is rife at the top as much as it’s at the bottom. Siliya’s tribunal is a worst of money, time and manpower. She staying put even though her reputation is damaged beyond repair.
We shall wait and see/hear.
# 26 digital smoke, do you know the book “english for dummies”, you badly need it for your grammar
Musi # 28 Do you know the essence of tribunals ? They serve as internal baroceptors of the govt … very healthy for our young and developing democracy ,let the old folks condemn, but us the young Leaders of Zambia tomorrow , this is fertile soil for the germination of the seed of truthfulness in good governance….
# 30 I have been thinking so lately, … only did not know how to put it . You are the messiah (male / Female)
Most important cases or and situation always make it to the head of state when he/she has the ie intelligence briefing. same goes for this particular tribunal in other cases the public would not have even known that the report first went to the president
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This woman used to be sooooooooo beautiful when she was a news presenter at ZNBC. whatever might have happened to her!!!!
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# 34 I love your thinking , only I have problems with your certain expressions on serious matters . I did English Literature at High school before I ventured in Medical sciences …… I still love Literature , I love literature so much …. Though am in the medical field .
# 35 I once did my literature exam in 1992 …. since then it is all medical stuff … I miss literature though. Happy ?
When I was young, I slept with a battery on my tongue,So when I spit the grammar , the impact is like a sting of a stun gun,at full blast I rock your cradle, with the fatal razorblades grazing at you.Wiseman reborn I split you open, and then stitch you back wit a staple.If you beef with me you get drown in Hunt’s,cause my murder is verbal.I lounge like a hungry jaguar, into agua.
You devils are trying to steal my intellect,you want to rob me of my culture,like they white washing sculptures,hell no I am going no where
#35 by the way am just a humble guy … relatively young I only trust my thinking I have malice for none , just a student here not of literature ……
# 40 The Rhyme was great , actually this is you , do not go into grammer which you may not be that good …. This is great piece of writing . What is your thinking on Abigeal and Ba honey on this blog.
Wiseman reborn you need to grow up,be like Maestro,Nine Chale,Maltworld,Chewe, Engine Bbuloko,the Captalist,Mwana Wakwitu,ba Moze,No way, Sharpshooter,papa J,Political black belt and the rest of them dudes,they aint jealousy,dont you feel ashamed,are you coming from a normal family?Are both your parents normal?May be you have some genetical or genital problems?please inform us cause usually syphilis attacks the mind.
Thandiwe goes to Hollywood:
‘The First Ladies of 15 African nations will gather in Los Angeles next week to promote their work in improving the health and education of women and girls in a continent ravaged by AIDS, poverty and a scarcity of clean water.’The meeting will bring together the first ladies of Angola, Kenya, Nigeria, Tanzania, Zambia, Swaziland and 10 other African countries with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s wife Sarah Brown, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger ‘s wife Maria Shriver and others. The gathering is being organized by the Los Angeles-based nonprofit group US Doctors for Africa (USDFA) and African Synergy Against AIDS and Suffering, a charitable group formed in 2002 by 22 First Ladies from Africa.
When you write Ghost dog , be who you are , the greatness lies in uniqueness …… Do not imitate think individually .. Imitation bleeds hatred and the down fall of many … kafupi a very typical example … respond not grammatically though
Now Ghost dog , your posting in 43 , I might start making a diagnosis of your mental state , Psychiatry is my field .. I will make a diagnosis of you ….
I thought you knew that The Ghost Dog had gone Digital
Take a rest young blood,this beef has just started,way to go
# 47 Are you suffering from neurosyphilis needing help …no grandiosity here
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Nobility and humility not found in gross people but , kings and queens….
Women thrive on emotions, men refuse to acknowledge,So when we arguin nobody win.you are like a woman to me,goodnite
Words get in the way time and again,Sticks and stones break your bones words break your heart.
# Bro are you tired , ghost dog … love you in agape love of five dimensions ….. your take
Think you about to blow when you continue to suck
When bros end amicably what a blessed day that can be …. a lesson to our politicians and the tribalists in the incubators … Ghost dog you are a good guy do not be adulterated … Gnite
You know what wiseman I do you a favor,tonite I live this blog to satisfy your quest,am out here!
Nomba imwe Insele shafuma kwisa bane? Kalaleni , mwaponta fyafula. Tomorrow is another day.
#56 Life is not about departure but love … what we have done nite is unity no insults ….
Wiseman we are now able to decode you ID, there are few Psychiatry peolple in z, especially based in uk
Wow! i have a priscriptions for some bloggers on here..anti psychotics such as haloperidol would definitely work.
# 60 Do I care all I say is the truth , nothing but the truth , my records are clear … from medical school ridge way campus to here ….
Damn – she looks like Big Mamma – a character played by Martin Lawrence – Ukubeka Mummy
# 61 Please think in the lines of newer anti-psychotics …..if we are to move with modern trends of psychiatry and mental health , which people fear to talk about in Zambia……..look at chainama a very eye sore of a hospital in Zambia yet the only psychiatry hospital in the whole country….
# 63 Jonathan Chilufya, you made a mistake, it’s tyler perry who plays big moma and not martin lawrence.
# 64, it was with malice that i prescribed the conventional Haloperidol and not the newer ones such as abilify and others. This was to ensure that Digital something on this blog can suffer more side effects lol!
Much of the blogging today has been on nothing near the story. I wonder why that is? Perhaps we have nothing to say… yet.
I think a lot us Zambians have very little to say on so many issues happening in Zambia…. the best we can do is just sending money to our relatives , the current residents are the best judges …… my view
#66 , interesting even thieves we treat from Central prison to phase v UTH…..and when they get better they even steal shoes from hospital staff in the corridors of ICU… it has happened ….yet we treat.
RB will doctor that report and none of us will ever know what the lawyers recommended. Why was the report not presented to parliament before being given to the chief thief RB? Dora and RB have something to hide and that is why RB never suspended Dora pending investigations. LPM was very honest showed you how leadership is provided and see the results – Nyirongo in jail, Chiluba by now should have been, Katele should have been but with RB, I can only say justice delayed is justice denied. He is the chief thief but remind him, we are coming for him in 2011. Wina azalila in 14 days of our govt. No technicalities and Chiluba must also know we shall not leave him alone. We are coming for him big time not with kid gloves.
EXCUSE ME GUYS! CAN I DIVERT YOU ALL LITTLE FROM DORA TO MATTERS OF THE HEART? am assuming that most of you bloggers are male and i am lookng for a perspective from your side. the ladies are welcome too. the story is: four years ago, i met this workmate, who i will call fred, a guy who went about telling everyone at work, including the boss that he liked me. i didnt like him initially but as i got to know him, i developed a strong liking for him and actually fell for him. however i was in a relationship at that time and was quite committed to my boyfriend, oscar, so i kept my distance from fred to avoid temptation. a year later he left the company and i forgot about him. meanwhile, my relationship with oscar ended because we just failed to get along. story continues below
three years later, i received a call from fred and we started communicating. he claimed he wasnt in a relationship and i wasnt. this kind of raised my hopes especially when he told me he was in love with me. we have actually met three times but on all these occasions we discussed everything else except dating. the questions i want to ask him but failing to do are these? 1: did he come back to tease or punish me for not having entertained him when he wanted me? 2. can i hang on to hope that one day he will actually ask me out. 3. can i just forget him and move on? kindly advise gentlemen, am running mad and there is a shortage of doctors at Chainama.
# 72 Beware what you wish for, advocate for improved mental health care at the only tertiary hospital of the country, per adventure you had a depressive disorder, you may find yourself admitted under the magistrate class 1 detention orders of mental health act ….no refusal beware what you wish for ….
Zambians are too petty and over assuming things they least understand. That is why crooks like FTJ could manipulate the whole country and people never understood how crooked and dishonest he had been throughout his life until he made a life long mistake of appointing Zambia’s best commando as Veep. He showed him a commando’s job and told Chiluba- ZWA , watusabila,. And that was Christon Tembo(MHSRIP). The man shall be remembered for principle, simplicity and courage. Otherwise Chiluba would have had his 3rd term preganting Regina and making us pay for his sexual fantasies. But ZWA he got from General Tembo – banalume ngayo ngayo!!!
AM off for a while ……
I would love to see Parliament study the report and NOT the chief RB. I wished LPM was alive. God, how can you be so unfair to us. LPM was a leader – hands down.
Mr. Banda said he will study the report before informing the public on the tribunal’s findings and recommendations. The tribunal was investigating allegations that Ms. Siliya cancelled a tender awarded to Thales Air Services of France to install radar equipment at Livingstone and Lusaka International airports.
Ms. Siliya was also accused of disregarding the legal opinion of the Attorney General prior to signing the MOU between Government and RP capital partners of Cayman Islands.
RP capital partners have signed an MOU with government to evaluate ZAMTEL assets before it is partially privatised.
#72, Single suburban, life is too short for you to be wondering about whether Fred wants to have a relationship with you or not. Ask him. The worst that he can say is that he is not interested and if he isn’t then, you would not have wasted precious time wondering about it. Chances are that he is interested, but you will only know for sure when you talk about it. There is nothing wrong with you raising the issue about your interaction with him because its confusing you and you would like some clarity.
Talk to Fred and let him know what is on your mind. Good luck!!!
Dora is history. I just learnt the Post has laid its hands on a copy of the report and are laying it as bait for Nyama Soya to try doctoring it and catch him pants down.
These national moanings are now irritating. Soon, a lunatic shall declare us a “moaning nation”. You bet next time a thief dies, you will be in for another national “malilo”.
DORA dollar
I dont trust RB… Instead of prosecuting her, he will even bribe Dora with another Dollar $$$1 for her to show up for some extra duties… Va so RB avikonda ka. I will be watching!
#80. that sausage on your plate looks like a ‘bobbitted” ntwanikane. lol
sorry, i meant #81
#72,face him about the future of your relations,if he’s neither here nor there,then look elsewhere.By the way am looking for a ah hmm yah,chibwibwi chinacita kantu,hahahahahahha. So consider forwarding yo CV.NB state clearly that you will withstand the side effects of my passionate,tender,dear,juicy,sugarly love in the 20s,30s and surely upto 70s of your life.and plz all details shud be in TUMBUKA,..hahahhahaha!,reach me on “[email protected]” box numer”kanele box 1,kukulakula kwintu,kanele”. to other bloggers,enjoy yo wkend and be blessed as we anxiously wait for RB to give us the situ on Dora,it’s only then comments’ll follow.A SUZYO MULI ULI ?NIVWILANIKO KA MANIFESTO KASUZYA PACHANYA APO,KASUNGWANA MUBALE WANE,NACHEKULA.TWAKUNO KU SILYA AGOGO BALIKANA TU…
from 84,…..AGOGO BALIKANA TUSWESI,HAHAHAH! G/DAY.
Dora the explorer ? plunderer, we are waiting for the verdict…..
This was another money wasting venture,coz Siliya & RB knew that she had breached the constitution to which she swore to but alas!,Our Constitution is naked now,it can be striped anytime by anyone.
I see said blind Dora. Am afraid the bohole saga in her petauke constituency has also been stamped on.
#72,come to me,I shall give you what you want (plenty love)
Good morning bloggers!
84# Yezyani! You have made my day start at a good note. Otherwise matusi ghali apa lino ghanguniluwalika nama chelochelo. Agogo’s advice is always good. Take time to look for madam right. kuflulimira yai adumbu. Good day and God bless.
The Judiciary (Tribunal ) were expected to give detailed information of their findings to the people of Zambia and not the President. This also shows that RB will have a final say on the fate of Dora which is not supposed to be the case. The tribunal was expected to advance court proceedings or drop the case in case of insufficient evidence . Conclusion : Zambian Judiciary is for the president and not the people.
#72. ‘He’s just not that into you’, better yet get Steve Harveys’ Act like a lady, Think like a man.’
We followed the proceedings of the tribunal through the Post. There is no way the Tribunal could have ‘cleared Dora’ on any of the allegations! Zambians are getting tired of this circus & like I have said so many times before, the MMD & SHREK will soon be chased with stnes like rabid dogs from their perch! Wait & c
I can not comment on the Dora Gate yet, i will wait for the finding before making any comments.
The other thing is Why give their findings to RB, i thought this is the job of the unti Corruption commitee. All coruption cases should be investigated by the Unti Corruption Committee, that there job.
#72 Hi darling, I thought in this day and age women now have the power to say what they want and go for it. Why cant you just tell this guy what you want and if his intentions are different from yours, then move on.
There is pleanty of fish in the sea. All the best.
Iyeee mwebantu ci tribunal report ubukulu, kwati ni thesis nayo iya Phd. I only hope ba mwine will read it thoroughly from page 1 to the last page
Is RB a lawyer or may be he has rights to pass judgment?
Read the post guys. Dora has been found guilty and wanting. What next RP?
Since Nyama Soya has a funny way of saying some letters like S,I look forward to the day that Nyama Soya will say ”today,am ”sh..acking(SACKING) Dora Sh..LIIYA(with strong eastern accent) and i will follow her to her to her constituency & sh..ack(sack) here there too!!!
Nothing short of a dimissal will be accepted. She can retain her parliamentary seat but she should be fired as Minister for breaching the constitution which she swore to uphold.
poor Dora, guilty on some charges. whom did she forget to’ nchekelao’?
I pray that the Presidental will be magnanomous and forth right in this trying moment. He should bear in my that his entire reputation depends on what he does with the findings and how he handles them. He should not forget that many people know what is contained in the report and will only keep the “secrecy” for as long as he (RB) is President but will be ready to open their mouthes as and when it will suit them. May truth prevail for once in this beautiful but beleagered land. Remember what ever you sweep under the carpet will be revealed when the carpet is remove for cleaning. Amen
Hi bloggers,long tym indeed.New bloggers i can see,old ones where u at? The likes of Chewe, Sony Erickson,Ponyax, PF Die Hard, Nine Chale,Baby C, Zoe,Lipstick,Umgazebo and the rest?
Ati Bwa!!!!!! Tribunal clears Siliya. Times. COMMUNICATIONS and Transport Minister Dora Siliya did not breach the ministerial and parliamentary code of conduct, the tribunal set up to probe the minister’s conduct has concluded. “In the present case we leave Hon Dora Siliya’s breaches to his excellency the president to deal with,” the tribunal recommended. The Times of Zed reports. Dora breached Constitution over RP Capital – tribunal THE judge Dennis Chirwa chaired tribunal has found that communications and transport minister Dora Siliya breached Article 54 sub Article 3 of the Constitution when she selected RP Capital Partners Limited the Post reports.
I guess it depends on which paper you like. Different Headlines. What ever you think. I don’t care.
Did not breach the constitutional code of conduct or constitution. Who cares the chap did something wrong.
The ball now lies in the commander in chief who, I believe, defends her.
Typical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys lets not go bananas about Dora’s predicament. I think we should not pre-empty anything lets wait for the judgment of the one RB. Although you don’t need to be a mad scientist to predict the mind of RB likes, all you need is raw intelligence.
RB is has been put on the spotlight.
The man together with his deputy energetically defended this baby.Now that the tribunal has found serious constitutional breaches and have left to him to deal with it.
The man is at sea.
We shall get a weird reaction,we know.
Friday, April 17, 2009 8:54:43 PMDora breached Constitution over RP Capital – tribunal
Written by Chibaula Silwamba and Patson Chilemba
THE judge Dennis Chirwa chaired tribunal has found that communications and transport minister Dora Siliya breached Article 54 sub Article 3 of the Constitution when she selected RP Capital Partners Limited
to valuate the assets of Zamtel without following legal advice from the Attorney-General.
And the tribunal stated that “if a sitting President breaches the Constitution he is liable to impeachment under Article 37 of the Constitution. In this case by ignoring the legal advice of the Attorney-General, Hon Dora Siliya breached Article 54 sub Article 3 of the Constitution”.
In conclusion, the tribunal stated that “in the present case…
you people stop the insults please. atleast when we dont see your faces, we would assume that its young stars doing this. this gravator thing tells alot. did u see the sata story mu post ‘sa soon as i was told thst chiluba had arrived , i left the funeral house, chiluba is not worth shaking hands with’. where are our elders taking us to mwebantu.
In conclusion, the tribunal stated that “in the present case we leave Hon Dora Siliya’s breaches to His Excellency the President to deal with”.
The RP Capital allegation was the allegation against Siliya that was heavily defended by President Rupiah Banda and Vice-President George Kunda.
In defending Siliya, President Banda said she was smart and more intelligent than those criticising her on this matter. President Banda said Siliya was right in this matter and she knew what she was doing and she should be given the opportunity to finish what she was doing.
#112. Sata is very childish. who would be damn enough to vote for him as president?
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COUNTRY MEN AND WOMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS, RB has declared next week a National mourning in remembrance of Dora Siliya.
She is now History for Zed 😕
LT, I was just about to comment on Dora Siliya’s picture you earlier posted but now that you have swapped it with the current one, I withhold my commentary.
RB could not finish studying the feasibility of the findings and recommendations of the Dora Siliya saga, he was found sleeping in his study room, the book of law is weighing about 10 kg.
What next face shame or save Dora? God bless mother Zambia
#114 Don’t elevate your mood into a national philosophy. Which one in your able judgment should they vote for then? People vote for him simply because of lack of a better option. I will leave you, for now, as to allow you absorb that reality at your own pace.
Those findings are heavy. Look at how thick that Paper is!! Is it all about Dora?
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Tribunal clears Siliya
By DORIS KASOTE and ANGELA CHISHIMBA
THE Tribunal probing Minister of Communications and Transport Dora Siliya’s alleged abuse of office and corruption has cleared her of two of the three allegations.
The tribunal has left the breaches she may have committed in the third allegation to President Banda to deal with.
The first allegation against Ms Siliya was related to the failure to comply with the legal advice of the Attorney-General and failure to comply with legal advice and failure to observe tender procedures.
Tribunal clears Siliya
By Times Reporter
COMMUNICATIONS and Transport Minister Dora Siliya did not breach the ministerial and parliamentary code of conduct, the tribunal set up to probe the minister’s conduct has concluded.
However, the tribunal has said Ms Siliya’s failure to comply with the Attorney General’s advice is a matter for the president to deal with.
The tribunal said the complaint was brought under Part II of the Parliamentary and Ministerial Code of Conduct Act where it was alleged that Ms Siliya had breached section 4 (a)(b) and (d).
“But not withstanding that the complainants have been specific in the provision which they think have been breached, in our consideration of the matter, we have looked at all the prohibition under part II.
“On the…
Daily mail
Tribunal clears Siliya
By DORIS KASOTE and ANGELA CHISHIMBA
THE Tribunal probing Minister of Communications and Transport Dora Siliya’s alleged abuse of office and corruption has cleared her of two of the three allegations.
The tribunal has left the breaches she may have committed in the third allegation to President Banda to deal with.
The first allegation against Ms Siliya was related to the failure to comply with the legal advice of the Attorney-General and failure to comply with legal advice and failure to observe tend
Zambian watchdog • Breaking News
Siliya found wanting in one, cleared of other charges
The tribunal set up to probe Transport and Communications Minister Dora Siliya Thursday evening presented its report to President Rupiah Banda.Tribunal Chairperson Dennis Chirwa said he could not explain the findings o[…]
Whether she has been ‘cleared’ or not, the fact is she has been found wanting in certain areas. She must be fired!!! Mulishani bonse?
Now reader check # 111, 113, 120, 121, 122, & 123. Which heading is correct? Those are quotes from our leading newspapers. It like describing a half cup of milk, one would say it is half empty and other person would say half full. Dora Dollar the stage is open, WATCH THE CHARACTERS AS MUSIC PLAYS….
Lets be patient and wait for the statement from RB
Press Clip:
Reporter: Your Excellency, any comment on the report presented to you by the Siliya tribunal?
RB: Njazi! I dont know. I have only been in office for five months now. Even a magician cant answer that question. However, i would like to thank the people of Western Province for electing me as their President in last years elections. Since they scratched my back, i will scratch theirs.
Reporter: In what way, Sir?
RB: I dont know!
Chicago
I have read all the stories in the dailymail, times and zambian watchdog. I don’t see any problem as they all contain pretty much the same information.
What exactly are you trying to achieve by bringing up the above stories??
This is like ripples of the sea.It will gain momentum as it get’s close to the vidict.More Govt. official will have to fall.
Ba Moze
That attempt at humor (on #127) you try to spout on this blog is becoming redundant.
Iwe No. 1 nothing will happen this government of Big Sugar (Nama Soya) is very corrupt believe me.
Nomba you guys mwapena sana. let us wait and hear what Nyama has to say please.
Thandiwe Banda will soon be leaving for LA summit on Health. The RB will invite Dora to the State House to discuss matters. Under four eyes and no reporters around.
#130 Don’t be mean we ‘ve to humor the brother (#127). I think he means well. Although I think he should try harder if he’s to designate it as his talent..
I wonder if the presido won’t change findings of the tribunal in favour of Dora.
A REMINDER TO ALL BLOGGERS
People remember that today is a mourning day for Mr Chitalu Sampa. Please mind your language or rather your language should be flying at half-mast.
Leave my Dora alone imwe ala! Ibele lyandi! Jamaco ibele!
I wonder where all the silly monkeys that were lining up tails to render unprecedented support to that stinking thief Dora have all legged off to. Zambians are now soo welded to being cheated that even when a thief steals from them, they do not realise so.
ibele kwati ni Aretha franklin ayi 3RqU!!! Ulishani mudala wandi. Dora lelo aleya Ku State House for Dinner.
#136, please help me know what level of half-mast the language should be! I don’t understand your blog.
Jamaco shani. Ndifye good ine. Dora`s wins! I can not see her losing her job. If Zambians are serious about fighting corruption this is just one of the cases to do RB for when he is no longer president. Umulandu taubola. He ain`t gonna do nothing about it. Open secret.
#140 smoothy language with a flavor of respect for humanity. Please also stay within the topic at hand. Thanks and stay blessed.
Mwanalisa Syndrome if you think i have a problem marry me then thats when you will know.Am very much okay energetic and deadly just that iam principled thats why am still a virgin.
#130 free fimo fimo. As always, you are entiltled to your own opinion. We just wish you could keep them to yourself. I have never known you to have an ounce of humour in you, so i un derstand.
#134 Cheers!!!
Ba Moze Free fimo fimo is coming to be your minister. Watch this space. You heard it from 3!
Ba Moze
I have never met any successful comedian who always uses the same material like you do which is why I am telling you that it is not funny anymore. Think of it as constructive criticism.
3RqU
You have proven to all of us that you are a bag full of baseless rumors. You have exposed yourself to be a rumor monger who does not contribute anything of an valuable substance on this blog. I thank you for your suggestion (me becoming minister) but I respectfully decline. I do not want to be a politician.
Guys check the book in the picture being handed over to RB. it is a big as a dictionary. trully is bashi Nenani going to read the findings buy the tribunal? how long will it take him to finish and understand the content? Kaya let us wait and see. jamaco shani boi 3Rqu Shani?
I am keenly waiting for the final verdict by President RB Banda as well under the help of the Minister of Justice, Vice President, George Kunda. What impresses me is that the Minister of Justice already mentioned that Minister DORA did not do wrong and he will try to stick to his earlier judgement I believe as he will be making recommendations to the President who is also on record saying that Minister Dora is smart than her haters.
In all, let us wait and see.
By the time RB will finish reading this book it will be the end of His term as President. Just leave Dora alone.
Free fimo fimo you sound so serious and easily provoked mudala # 146 chill let Ba Moze continue with his comed or humour freedom of xpression. you remind of my school days of ba head boy.
#142, normally that is what should be the case and, I believe, that is what should be the FULL MAST (“flavour of respect for humanity…staying within the topic at hand”). But confused people like you are the ones who bring dirt language and divert people from “the topic at hand”. If to you, “flavour of respect for humanity…staying within the topic at hand” are not your full mast, then what is?
#146 Free fimo fimo nice one. You obviously didn`t see the irony in my post.
#150. Couldn`t agree more. The boy is a cadre.! They easily get provoked!
…still waiting for Verdict.
# 147 Kaluku luku bwino fye. Just waiting for the outcome of that dictionary.
# 72, single in the suburb, Your situation is complicated if we look at from all angles… To start with, the fact that Fred really loved, was really a good chance for nice score in your love affair. Now he might be feeling for you… Its at your risk… maybe your turn now to take it… He will of course accept your offer, real men never deny! But to love you as was before???
All the best. I am inviting you for a morning breakfast if you do not mind…
3RqU
You obviously didn`t see the irony in my post
Please show me where the irony is. You made a baseless claim and I am just exposing you as the rumor monger you are.
#150. Couldn`t agree more. The boy is a cadre.! They easily get provoked!
How am I a cadre? Please explain this to me. Just because I defended my blog name from your libel does not make me a cadre. Please explain to me how I am a cadre.
Kaluku luku
Free fimo fimo you sound so serious and easily provoked mudala
I am sorry if I come out a little too strong. I try by all means to be truthful and respectful. I thank you for pointing out where I was out of line and encourage to continue to do so when you see me following the same trend.
#155 the volume of the tribunal findings leaves alot of questions RB will not read that dictionary boi. 3RqU wanisekesa ati cadre!
Free Market # 157 cheers
….ala pali ma temper pa LT lelo. Nichinji kansi bana bangu mwebo????
Stay well people of LT. I am gone. Free fimo fimo, chill young man. Youv`e got the whole world before you. As I said the last time make sure you pay your mortgage! lol! Shilapwa especially if you have only been appointed. Ask Nevers! From VP to is it High Commissioner? God bless.
Have a good night/day 3RqU but please refrain from making unverifiable claims about me.
Good Morning/Afternoon bloggers. The Post has published part of the findings of the Dora Siliya Tribunal. Ba Dora breached the constituition by ignoring the AG’s Legal advice and the Tribunal has left this “breaching” to the President to deal with. Now, we shall see the President’s reaction to this and the Vice President’s reaction since despite being a lawyer, he vigorously supported Siliya’s actions. #71 single in the suburb: Go smoke somewhere else – the topic here is about Dora’s Tribunal. #127 Ba Moze: You always make my day, let no one freak you out. Good day all.
# 162 Free-Market-Capitalist, you have been defending Dora all along so stop pouring vernom on other bloggers just because your sweet baibe Dora has been found wanting. If it hurts you, deal with it!!! Regardless of what RB’s reaction will be, atleast we know that Dora made a constitutional blunder. Since you are in the USA (your flag), you surely know why the person Obama had first chosen to be Commerce secretary withdraw…..just delaying paying tax! But your Dora and RB! even in the face of a 10kg Tribunal report they still wanna stay put! kaya mama!!!!
#71/72 ask Oscar Ngoma what he wants with you
Engine Bbuloko
# 162 Free-Market-Capitalist, you have been defending Dora all along
You see this is why I tend to come out too strong. This is another example of an unverifiable accusation. OK, I will bite the bait, I want you to provide proof or at least some quotes where I have defended Dora concerning this case. I am sorry but I do not like to entertain fictional statements. If you are spreading lies about me, I will call you on it.
you surely know why the person Obama had first chosen to be Commerce secretary withdrew
If you must know, I do not approve of many of Obama’s doings. I am a republican when it comes to American politics.
#128. Please, while headlines may mean nothing to you. I believe they reflect the overall story line. I mean listen to the headling ……..Tribunal clears Siliya. Mmmmm mwebanesu. Nangu ni reporting nifyo. Maybe the Times of Zed chaps were simply trying to be different. But I think the Title was wrong. Cleared when R.Bwezani Banda has not mouthed out yet on Siliya’s mess.
#143. Chewe the Virgin. Thanks you remembered to reply to my query from the other thread. I have no doubts about your prowess. I Just wanted to keep you edgy. Keep blogging.
#127,ba moze,my lungs are bursting, ba RB ati njazi….yu ‘ve my day on this score.
#72,yu see ma contenders tapaka,i thot i was the only interested Tumbuka Bull,anyway i’ll strategise.
#90 my sis Tionge,i take yo piece of advise.naonga,kutekanya kwene ni zee, G/day.
NB,Daily and Times Headlines;Dora cleared by the tribunal….what is the meaning of such headlines,i doubt if RB and Kunda will change their earlier stance,let’s wait and see as Denis Liwewe would put it those days.
At least Ka Chiluba did not defend his good friend Remmy Mushota(MHSRIP). We hope the mor educated Bwezani will do even better
some people would have been better off if they were Nomads !! You can not stay in one place and think you are benefiting the whole country. What a shame. Stagnant water stinks. Now read between the lines and start speculating.
72 when you leave the house abaume tabalishishe akamunsoli or even ka garden boy takakwebele ati nauwama weshibe ati there is a big problem. If the dude is seriously into you, he will tell you what he wants. Try to keep ur cool. It helps or the time. Not ukubilima.
Goodmorning bloggers….hmmmmmmmmmm! i see that there is drought fron LT reason why you have continued blogging on a sterile thread….shani ku Europe!
# 166, Free-Market-Capitalist, one of the hallmark of principled people is in their ability to keep track of what they stand and stood for, defend it if necessary or retrack if they see better light. I have followed your bloging both on this site and on “Zambiaonline.com”. You are a staunchy MMD supporter and have been trying to sway public opinion on the MMD’s positions including this one. I may not waste time going back to old threads just to put your very owns before you as if I will gain anything. For now, just deal with the outcome of the tribunal. Some advice, I think Dora needs you more at her side now than these bloggers you are trying to bully. You go and strategise Mr Campaign Manager while the rest of us toast to “Justice for the people”
#174 Engine Bbuloko, I support you on this 100%. This Gentle seems to have a very short memory. We all saw how he “murdered” all bloggers for the sake of Dore. Am not surprised that he has changed; Typical of MMd. They abandoned FTJ when LPM removed his immunity. They bayed for his blood
Where is Free fimo fimo?
72, single in the suburb, this time to be strong. Kindly, make sure that you are not desperate for a relationship. Just yesterday, a white lady I am with here was telling me how she feels like nothing is good any more around her including herself just because she broke up with her boyfriend last weekend. She also told me a lot of details and I almost asked her as to WHY SHE WAS TELLING ME HER THINGS to such detail, but I did not want to make her situation worse.
All I told her in the end was my life story and how I am more important than worrying about getting a girl-friend. This was meant to help her realise that she can do without a boyfriend until someone who really needs to marry her pops up one day – if it will ever come.
In light of this, I urge you to relax and let a MAN come.
176 he has run away
#177 You are right. Thats good advise, not only to #72 but others as well.
#177 and all others. thanks a lot for your wise words. i only hope you are the one who is going to come.
179, Political Black Belt, greetings and thank you.
In the meantime, president HH has indicated that President RB Banda will be liable for impeachment proceedings according to Article 37 or so of the current Republican Constitution if he fails to act on Minister Dora’s issue to the level of firing her from her appointed Ministerial office.
Such data is on zambianwatchdog.
#72, I want to encourage not to be in such a rush. Let this guy take his time in revealing his feeling for you. But in the same vain, don’t allow him to waste your time if there is some body who is ready to take you for the rest of his and your lives. I know of ladies who’ve so desperate for marriage but then in the end, marriage has had not been to what their expectations. 2 things; either they are not ready for marriage but were just desparate or have the wrong partner for marriage. So try to exercise patience (one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit) and wait for your time to come.
180, single in the suburb, you are welcome. Well, the good Lord GOD will surely do His part and who knows what will be possible.
Just take care of yourself and keep well.
As for the rest, this DORA SILIYA CASE will make serious history in Zambian politics as it will set a precedence on President RB BANDA’s capabilities to defend or mis-defend the Zambian Constitution as president HH has put it.
Interesting enough PF’s Harrington says he will carefully follow what our President will do.
Have a blissful day you all.
All eyes on Nyama soya. Remember, even Veep Kunda and the likes will in future refer to RB’s conclusion and one day say …Precedence has been set. Whether shallow verdict or a good one for that matter. Veep Kunda referred to the past that No MInister was sucked as a result of his or her wrongdoing. The ball is in Bwesani’s hands :-/
#178 Bet you are right.
# 72 fred will just enjoy you in all angles. But the time you come back to your senses he will have finished you. Trust me I have done that to some girl I use to love way back. She is now back and I only call her when I need entertainment. Back to Dora. RB will just file the documents till the next elections.
OK, forget the headline and the opening paragraph in the Times of Zambia, here is an extract inside the story, and quote:
“…They said it was a fact that before ministers assumed their responsibilities they took oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution of Zambia and the laws of the land.
They said breach of the Constitution was a serious matter and that if the president breached the Constitution, he was liable to impeachment under Article 37 of the Constitution.
The tribunal said by ignoring the legal advice of the Attorney General, Ms Siliya breached Article 54 sub Article three of the Constitution…” I’m no lawyer but BREACHING A CONSTITUTION is more serious a matter than breaching of Parliamentary and Ministerial Code of Conduct Act. She needs to be sacked!
She has to walk. No amount of favouritism or tribalism, nepotism or mwana wa kwitu syndrome will save her this time around. The tribunal judges have clearly stated that breaching the constitution is a serious offence for which even a president can be impeached. What is the president going to study. The case is straight forward — She must be kicked out.
Such waste of time and money. One year ago there was such light and hope in front of every Zambian.
When a minister or someone well known dies, the whole country comes to a standstill, yet there are Zambians dying everyday from lack of medicine. We spend so much time and money talking about one minister Dora, yet everyday we have our cousins and uncles who wish one of us could talk on their behalf in regards to basic things such as having 3 meals in a day. Poverty is really a shame!
Engine Bbuloko
# 166, Free-Market-Capitalist, one of the hallmark of principled people is in their ability to keep track of what they stand and stood for, defend it if necessary or retrack if they see better light.
Of course I always keep track of what I have stood for, defended and can keep track of what I have and have not said so I know when someone is telling lies about me.
You are a staunchy MMD supporter and have been trying to sway public opinion on the MMD’s positions including this one.
I have always said that at the moment I am non partisan. When the MMD govt gives a good policy, I support it. I do not appeal to popularity like you do. I have the ability to think for myself and not got with popular opinion[tbc
cont.
I may not waste time going back to old threads just to put your very owns before you as if I will gain anything.
In short what you are saying is that you cannot prove I ever supported Dora Siliya concerning this case. This makes you a rumor mongering fabulist. It is your opinion that I defended Dora Siliya concerning this case, It is your opinion that I am an MMD supporter, It is your opinion that I cannot keep track of what I stand for.
It is fact that I never defended Dora Siliya concerning this case, It is fact that I am non partisan, It is fact that I can keep track of what I stood for. [tbc
cont.]
Until you come with hardcore verifiable facts instead of your delusional erratic opinions, I will put some more whip cream on your humble pie.
Deja Vu
We all saw how he “murdered” all bloggers for the sake of Dore.
When did I “murder” bloggers for the sake of Dora. I would like to see this because I do not recall ever doing this. The rumor mongers seem to be exposing themselves.
It seem’s all Minister’s in MMD from FTJ,Dr Katele have done one thing of another in the time of office.You’re like you are in Zambia.
Nyama soya wont fire Dora coz Dora is amarter than any zambian even Nyama soya for that matter. Corruption is in all the ministries only the Post can reveal it. So now let Dora be taken to the court of law as she ha committed the same corruption which Nyorongo did commit.
Any way we will be waiting for Nyamazi to take action on this.
From media reports It seems dora has been cleared of all the three allegations, i.e. breaches of the Parliamentary and Ministerial code of conduct. However the tribunal used its “discretion” to point out the unrelated breach of the constitution. Lawyers kindly advise.
Wiseman, for disregard of the AG’s advise, she has been found wanting and Banda has no option but to relieve her of her post. If he does not, he will himself be in contravention of the constitution. Read Dr. Chongwe’s learned observation of the situation and you will realise Banda is in a fix.
#197 We should not be that sure. Dr Chongwe’s “learned observation” is only one among many different legal opinions. It is said that law is not an exact science. Line up 100 lawyers on this case and you will get anything up to 100 legal opinions. We can expect many more twists and turns before this case rests.
“193 Free. You have taken too long to react. I will go to the archives and re print your contributions on this saga. Just give me a minute.
#197 Wiseman. The only thing that will save DS is the unwillingness of the President to act. The case is there for u to see. If you shop lift sweets and buy cakes in Shoprite, you will not be excused simply because you have paid for more expensive item.
#193 Free— Sorry I mixed you with Engines. Namashina yene kwati yaba Ngoni
Now bloggers, where do you place The Post? And Fred something? These chaps were vilified left, right and centre over the same matter that the tribunal has sort-of ‘found Dora wanting’. Many of us bloggers thought The Post was out to no good but here are the facts. Let’s be sobre when attacking others. Without the Post raising this issue ministers would have a field day signing MoUs that are dubious and place a burden on us taxpayers. Bravo The Post, we will continue to buy your paper. That is real journalism: to help the community. I hope Dora will go
But again, morality demands that once found ‘guilty’ of breaking the constitution which she swore to uphold, Dora should on her on volition resigned her position to preserve her integrity. But anyway, we cannot talk of integrity where there’s none
Dora must just be fired .Congratulation to the tribunal for the job well done and good report .Our president is a very good one and interligent that he used the tribunal to get to know the trueth of the matter.Now the trueth has be presented you ,your excellency .Kindly ,this time around dont wast more time Sir .The judgers have given you there legal finds.In LOZI they say KELEZO KI MULYANI AINYEFULWI.Advice is like medicen dont untruest you will land yours in problems
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