The United Party for National Development (UPND) has threatened to take former president Dr. Frederick Chiluba back to court once the UPND-PF pact comes into power.
The UPND has also threatened to withhold Dr. Chiluba’s benefits because of his alleged involvement in active politics.
UPND Vice President for Administration says it is unfortunate that the courts have thrown out Dr. Chiluba’s cases regardless of the overwhelming evidence against him.
Mr. Kapita says the UPND-PF pact will ensure that the former head of state answers for all his wrong doings and account for the public resources he is alleged to have plundered.
Speaking t a press briefing in Lusaka today Mr. Kapita said the UPND/PF pact government will ensure that Dr. Chiluba stops getting his pensions because of his alleged involvement in active politics.
He said the pact was aware that the former head of state was being used by government to campaign for the ruling Movement for Multiparty Democracy (MMD).[quote]
And Mr. Kapita has warned outspoken Namwala Member of Parliament, Major Robbie Chizyuka of stern action if he does not stop attacking the party over its decision to form a pact with the Patriotic Front.
Mr. Kapita explained that the UPND’s decision to form a pact with the Patriotic Front was done after wide consultations with the general party membership and that the National Management Committee (NMC), except for Major Chizyuka endorsed the idea.
He said the initiative was good because splitting of votes by the fragmented opposition political parties had helped the MMD to always win the polls.
Mr. Kapita challenged Major Chizyuka to go ahead and re-contest the Namwala parliamentary seat if his claims of popularity are true.
At the same press briefing, UPND vice president for politics Francis Simenda accused the MMD government of planning to rig the 2011 polls by secretly issuing the National Registration Cards to MMD members in areas where the ruling party is not popular.
Mr. Simenda said the UPND was also aware of the false voter population being projected by government.
He alleged that for Western province, government has projected 400,000 eligible voters, while in Eastern Province where the party is said to be popular, 839,000 people will be eligible to vote.
Mr. Kapita claimed that according to the document obtained by the party, only 372,000 voters will participate in North Western Province.
He said the Zambian people will not be stopped from changing government because they are ready for the exercise.
ZANIS
It will be just waste of Tax payer’s money to start going back- taking Chiluba to court . Move on and build our country, KK never did nothing on building our country, Chiluba it was worse apart from wearing nice suits and good English, Mwanawasa same never build the country, RB, i do not know what i can even say. Same Cairo Road, Same FINDECO.
dats da kinda talk I would like tew hear..I dont really understand why kafupi waz acquitted….numeral uno!!
At least someone is standing up for Zambia.
The dumb miners voted for Chiluba in the first place, he put them out of work and now they chose him as their patron. Bushe bupuba olo ninshi?
PLEASE DO! THIS LITTLE THING IS A DISGRACE….
deal or no deal, lets face it.Let justice prevail Masses have suffered at an expense of selfish individuals.
Ilyashi ili :o:o:o
I would do exactly the same. Dora Siliya kaufela
Total nonsense from opposition.They have never told us any meaningful policies they intend to pursue.Zambia is heading for doom.KK with his lesser educated cabinet tried to do something atleast.
HakaSata be serious ,dont just preoccupy yourselves in moving into plot 1 convince the masses that you will be able to offer solutions to the countries woes i.e creating sustainable jobs not shoprite casual workers
That’s great news mr Kapita. Even the man himself knows that his freedom is a temperaly one. Hope the heart problem will not start . 😕
That is the reason the PACT will not be voted into power. People wil not eat Chiluba or his expensive court cases. Talk about issues that will bring poverty to a reduction may be you will have some suport.People in rural areas dont even know what Chiluba stole, what they are interested in is food on the table.
Richard Kapita is too uninformed, young, inexperienced, unexposed, unprepared, handcapped, ungrounded, naked, young and poor soul overwhelmed with gravious personal life battles to turn himself into a chola boy of rejected bitter sore losers on a journey to nowhere. The sooner he realises that they are turning him into mop rag on their dead-end egoistical goose chase trail the better. When RB is busy building webs of relations around the country for a landslide, Poor Richard Kapita and dangerously incompetent junior lawyer Winter Kabimba are busy parroting rubbish from their daily waffling unstable minds famous for bitterness and illusions.Time will judge these pinheads harshly at a personal level one at a time.At no time has the justice system of Zambia been at the discretion of politics
Its time politics in my country incorporated basic constitutional law lectures to avoid these self embarrassing goose chases only exposing ignorance in struggling opposition parties. I suggest NIPA should have an orientation in constitutional law of all politicians. No wonder Richard Kapita ran down once vibrant cash-cow; Manica Freights and UNIP’s E.W Tarries not forgetting his kids all school dropouts but devoted to illicit drugs in the USA.
I challenge these cadres to articulate one line of the Zambian constitution President Chiluba has bleached in his political sympathy and what legal clause they will force the judiciary to serve on the terms other than the law. That wishful thinking is narcissistic hegemony to nowhere synonymous with natural loser.
I am shocked to learn that Mulongoti dis not know that he is a political dimwit of the worst order. And talking about Mpombo’s unretired imprest, Mulongoti should be the last person to do so because we all read the scum involving billions the Auditor General unearthed at his Ministry of Works and Supply. It would take only a dimwit of the worst order to try to convince us that all this mountain of grudas was moved right from under his nose without his knowledge.
Veteran I think your quest at intellectual reasoning is pathetic, it truly stinks, you dimwit. It’s amazing how “kulimonesha ta” and patriotism always are the last refuge for the political scoundrel, all people asking for Chiluba’s cases to be revisited have had the chance to read Magistrate Chinyama’s flawed judgement where even at the very basic he claimed Chiluba was not a public servant and clearly going against well established general orders which forbid anybody depositing their so called own monies into government accounts tried to hinge his verdict on the notion that the AG said there was other monies in the account besides govt grudas so this was Chiluba’s money. Well, this could also have been mine so why can’t Chiluba show proof its his? Bsides, this could be his
cut he received for dangerous gun-running for diamonds in Angola or the kick backs for selling your mines for a song to silly Indian retailers from Kamwala and Ba Veteran Broadcaster Ben Kangwa bali ndwiiii “goose chasing” stinking bombarstic jargon like “narcissistic hegemony” from inside the backside of Chiluba. You are a shameful kind and if Zambia had a Jerry Rawlings, you would along with Chiluba be made to face the firing square, “we chinangwa iwe!”
Following “Mr. Simenda said the UPND was also aware of the false voter population being projected by government. He alleged that for Western province, government has projected 400,000 eligible voters, while in Eastern Province where the party is said to be popular, 839,000 people will be eligible to vote” and “Mr. Kapita claimed that according to the document obtained by the party, only 372,000 voters will participate in North Western Province“, this information is worrying. I just hope the UPND Team’s NMC will create a gr8 people mobilisation in Eastern Province that will be vocal from there and release rhetorical statements from Eastern Zambia.
Have a blessed day.
__
Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these…
Seems vengence consumes the pack, and not policy issues. By the time they will turn to the later in office, there will be no Zambia to talk about – ouch!
Marvellous Marvin Hagler,
I must tell you that diatribes don’t move me in my moral discourse. Informatively engage me with legal reasoning than gumboots of sublevel irrationality. You must be a zero brained retard to be consumed with the hyperbolic dead-end rants to nowhere of the so called PACT zealots. In law the burden of proof is not on the accused but the accuser. You had Chiluba for 8 polarizing years in court busy knocking off initial allegations from 40 accounts to 2 legally unbinding arguments evidently flawed even in judicial activism. Chiluba campaigned for Sata from 2003-2006 when your brain had not even picked up the Alzheimer’s disease yet you ignore the precedence in common law. Come with substantive legal argument than spewing useless venom.Walk me through the law.
What policies are some of the blogggers talking about? Yes we will not eat court cases but justice shoud prevail.Its part of good governance to prosecute thieves.We cant have a midget who went round sleeping with peoples wives and abusing state resources go scot free.Yes take him back to court
Veteran, will be lynched once the PACT is in power. You thieves! THE LAW IS THE LAW, IT NEVER FADES. Kafupi should have his day in court just like any other plunderer. Dull Zambians like to accept mediocre. You all bloggers, cant you see the difference between our mother zambia and the countries you re squarting in. Now that you re over fed, zambia can now be led by the plunderers, dull individuals the likes of Shakapya, Kanitundila, Kukunda and Mulongotinfa!. ONE day you will go back home and will be shocked how desolate the place had become. Dont say you were not warned**==**==
# 8 Popaman, THE PACT HAS BEEN EXPLAINING HOW THEY WILL GOVERN, THEY HAVE EXPLAINED THEY WILL NOT ENGANGE IN WASTEFUL EXPENDITURE LIKE PAYING LUSAKA BASED MINISTER ALLOWANCES AS THE CASE IN NCC, THEY HAVE SAID ZAMTEL DEAL WILL BE REVERSED, THEY HAVE SAID INDENI WILLBE CAPITALISED & MODRNISED, THEY HAVE SAID WILL LOOK AT CREATING 2nd REFINARY THAT CAN HANDLE ANGOLA OIL, THEY HAVE SAID BLOATED GOVT WILL BE TRIMMED, PRODENT FINANCIAL MAGMENT, KAFUPI WILL BE PERSUED, RB WILL BE LOCKED UP EVIDENCE OF CORRUPTION THERE WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT. AGRICULTURE POLICIES WILL BE IMPROVED.
Preposterous assumption is not only the lowest level of knowledge, but not arguable basis of juriprudence in any constitutional law system.In legal practice, the presumption of innocence and guilty are animated by the requirement that the accuser prove the charges against the defendant Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. This DUE PROCESS requirement, a fundamental tenet of criminal law, is contained in statutes and judicial opinions of any justice system. The requirement that a person suspected of a crime be presumed innocent also is mandated in statutes and court opinions. The two principles go together, but they can be separated a fact Preposterous cadres have lamentably failed understand.
Preposterous assumption is not only the lowest level of knowledge, but not arguable basis of juriprudence in any constitutional law system.
Preposterous assumption is not only the lowest level of knowledge, but not arguable basis of jurisprudence in any constitutional law system. In legal practice, the presumption of innocence and guilty are animated by the requirement that the accuser prove the charges against the defendant Beyond a Reasonable Doubt.
This DUE PROCESS requirement, a fundamental tenet of criminal law, is contained in statutes and judicial opinions of any justice system. The requirement that a person suspected of a crime be presumed innocent also is mandated in statutes and court opinions. The two principles go together, but they can be separated a fact Preposterous cadres have lamentably failed to understand and articulate.
“Veteran” is an anwering machine programmed to respond to any perceived negative story about the MMD! Why waste energies on this machine?
useless rantings. when did politicians take over prosecutions. u see the danger of such useless people getting into govt. what he is saying is undemocrac=tic and is illegal.
WHERE WILL PACT GET THEIR MONEY? SHAME ON POST AND THE EVIL LEGACY
Law enforcement agencies are in confusion as information has reached them that Finance bank owner Rajani Mahtani has fled the country.Meanwhile, the government has removed all its acounts from Mahtani’s bank.
This follows the delisting of Finance bank from preferred banks under Ministry of Finance circular number 3 of 2010.
Among the accounts that have been taken or are in the process of being transfered to other banks include that of Zambia Revenue Authority, University of Zambia bursaries, the National Assembly, Food Reserve Agency and Nitrogen Chemicals of Zambia.
No. 10,
The people in the rural areas are ignorant about what Chiluba did because he stole money which could have contributed in providing affordable quality education and improved media coverage to rural areas. Secondly we cant eat that midget who stole incredible sums of money from poor Zambians hence severe punishment must serve as a deterent. Its this kind of corruption that has made many third world countries remain poor. Find out how Asians punish crooks like FTJ.
By taking Chiluba back to court,is that going to solve problems we are facing in the country? Ba pact naimwe i have been suporting you but seems it is as it was in the begining is now and it shall be Zambia without change.Anyway may the best man take over from the MMD chaps im tired of them.May God bless Mother Zambia **==
Veteran, I am not in the least amused by your pathetic legal jargon clearly parroted from law journals and the dictionary. The lack of original and coherent reasoning in your thinking is clearly apparent and for one, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. I do understand the statutes and judicial opinions (PRECEDENT for your information you dimwit) of (especially) our justicial system and the common law one from which it evolved. This is the context in which any reasonably educated man able to read and understand law will find Chinyama’s ruling clearly flawed. Statute wise, Chiluba was a public servant and yet Chinyama vexatiously decided he was not thus making a number of the charges fall off. Notable constitutional lawyers like Mvunga and Chongwe have aired their opinion on this matter
and so has the LAZ, critisizing learned magistrate’s decision. To quote from your parroted legal verbature, “This DUE PROCESS requirement, a fundamental tenet of criminal law, is contained in statutes and judicial opinions (precedent) of any justice system”, sad though to realise that you fail to realise that this same DUE PROCESS OF YOURS entails that any aggrieved party (ZAMBIANS) should (like Dora SILIYA) have recourse to appeal to a higher court (which is what Nkole did) and Bwezani blocked him before firing him. Tomake matters worse, Banda is not being seen in public cozying around with this Lazo of yours. To think that Chinyama’s verdict was founded in Statute/precedent and not in Bwezani is unforgivable s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y of the gutless order resident only in veteran skulls.
Veteran, bwa and rodgers chongwe double thumbs up. The problem with PACTANS is that they are clouded in illussions. An executive arm of government is separate from the Judiciary please. whether you take chiluba’s case to court or not, the evidence will not change. Worse still there is no more money to pay expensive sensational private lawyers to raise public imaginations of what has been stolen. Lets move on and do things differently. Our fathers fought chacha for a reason and we thank them. Lets turn a new page and debate intelligently. Wether you take chiluba back to court for another 20 years or even kill him, problems here at home will still be there until we re-focus our energies. Marvelous Marvin muntunse II and john chanage you mind set.
Veteran, your pasting on #25 above says a lot about you, you are clearly a layman at law. Just what the hell do you mean by claiming that “The two principles go together, but they can be separated a fact Preposterous cadres have lamentably failed to understand and articulate” We all know that Chiluba has both criminal and civil cases against him as clearly laid out by the prosection like so in accordance with (1) ‘common law’ (precedent) meaning the substantive law and procedural rules that have been created by the judges through the decisions in the cases they have heard. This type of law comes in two types: substantive law and procedural law. A substantive rule is a rule about our behavior, for example, that we cannot commit theft of public funds like your wayward nemesis Chiluba…
These substantive rules are different from procedural rules, as the latter govern simply how things should be done. Regardless of what sort of case is in court, the rules governing the admission of evidence into court are the same. Statutory law, on the other hand, refers to law that has been created by Parliament in the form of legislation. If you ask any lawyer in the country today, they will tell you Chinyama’s ruling is a vexatious joke that lacks backing in law and as the LAZ stated, this case was very appealable. I am not the one to go out there hauling aimlessly all night like a wolf searching for legal bombastica to give a clearly false learned façade when your intellectual snobbery is so apparent. Man, your mercenarism is most disgusting, what a waste of education.
The sad thing about all this is that it confirms the short memory and silly nature of most Zambians, planting landmines that they come back to step on in the future. In Zambia. cases are also decided from precedent, one day, some of this flawed decisions Chinyama made and Veteran is supporting will come back to bite him in his backside, where it never shines. Just like the Public Order Act came back to haunt General Miyanda after he, as VP, re-enacted it via the back door but it halted his spirited run for the presidency when MMD cancelled all his rallies to give way to Vinyau dancers.
There is no amount of copied legal verbature puked on this site that can give credit to Chinyama’s decision or clean Chiluba’s soiled reputation. As a people, as a nation, we ought to make a combined and conserted stand that stealing of public funds is wrong and whoever does it will live to see their day in court and be punished severely. Only last week, the Auditor General’s report was released and the exposed abuse of public funds was most painful indeed. If clearly criminal machinations by the executive arm on the judiciary to let thieves off the hook can enlicit such strong support from supposedly educated people like the veterans of this world, then we as a nation are doomed. We seem clearly at see to differentiate between politics, wrong and right. vERY SAD INDEED.
Chiluba is criminal, both in LAW and Fact, and no amount of defence will remove him from the the deep shuckles of shame and embrancement, he’s faced with! A non-repentent LAZO! A chief wife grabber, adulterer, fornicator! The man needs great MEN like Kapita with a sense of morality and dignity to cage all Lazo’s. That is the way forward, and a lesson for all wanna be Lazo’s at present and in future. CAGE the stunted, long figured Lazo – Kafupi!
Sebuloni Kamutanda,
Your confusion at law and natural fragrance for diatribes driven by incorrigible hatred to nowhere does not fathom or curve my moral conscious.For 8 straight years you have failed to legally substantiate the frames against Chiluba but unceremoniously drop 98% of the charges Mwanawasa irregularly took to parliament for stripping of FJT’s immunity. The burden of proof that the accused has a case to answer is not on the accused but the accuser a responsibility you have lamentably failed other than shredding over Billions of Zambian Kwachas from the treasury.The whole exercise in its futility was a poor value for money.All it created was polarization and enriching a legion of dangerously incompetent junior lawyers.Emotions took precedence over reason.
FJT may have put personal funds in the state account but prosecuting him on that ground remains on the accuser who has the burden of proof to show beyond reasonable doubt that the money was from tracable public sources.Its not the responsibility of the accused to enlist his sympathizers to the accuser.Such argument is contemptably foolhandy as legally flawed.
Should the PF-UPND Pact win next year’s elections Chiluba will certainly be taken back to court whether his supporters like it or not. Does Chiluba walk with head high with the word “thief” hanging over him like the ring around a Saint’s head in Catholic pictures? People should remember that Chiluba’s theft and plunder sent many people to the grave. He is lucky that he is not in China or West Africa otherwise he would have been history by now.
This is cheap politiking. In the last elections (2006), the PF campaigned on the notion that they will drop Chiluba’s cases once in power. Then Chiluba was behind Sata and based on that campaign message, PF won Luapula Province convincingly. Now that Chiluba has been acquited, the same guys have changed positions and say they bring him back court. Is the pact speaking with one voice? This time Ba Sata, forget about Luapula. The same rebel MPs from Luapula Province are Chiluba’s and the live PF just before elections and defect to MMD. They will scoop all their seats.
Its unfortunate that PF-UPND Pact is preoccupied with the FTJ issues. The best is to campaign on developmental issues instaed of FTJ. If the Pact can sell itself to the masses this stalk of witholding FTJ’s benefits sould not arise. The truth FTJ is a politician and no amount of threats will silence him. That is the subject the man knows better. Why talk of FTJ if he is no longer a political factor. Richard Kapita and Francis Simenda are not formidable politicians. These just talk talk non stop. What is required is strategizing on how to unseast the MMD next year during elections not FTJ. What solution is the Pact going to offer Zambians once they form the next Govt. Let us at all costs avoid personalizing issues.
Surely this would put Sata in an awkward position? Atleast Mwanawasa resigned from the Chiluba regime. Sata stayed till the end and even fought for the 3rd term. Am sure Kafupi has a few beans he would spill regarding his former right-hand cobra. Again, PF judgement would be put under scrutiny given that Chiluba was campaigning for them in 2006. This just shows what a merry- go- round Zambian politics are. People who believe the so called PACT will be any different from what we have had before will be very dissappointed.
The so called PACT is a marriage of convenience between two seasoneed ballot rejects from titular parties.Its a cursed Tower of Babel clouded in self deceit, confusion, dead-end ego to nowhere.No institution has realised a dream of Governing a self respected conscious people who treasure the rule of law and democratic practices.Hatred and lies have a tendancy of eating their paragons.Its hatred and lies that jammed Sata’s arteries in 2008 and this time it be just sweep him.Ichilema is already getting old with lies, hatred and delusions.
‘Luapula shifts support to RB, MMD’
“THIS is too good to believe…,” remarked one senior member of the ruling Movement for Multi-party Democracy (MMD) when he saw a huge crowd which turned up to welcome President Rupiah Bwezani Banda at Mansa Airport in Luapula Province.
The shock of the MMD member is undoubtedly justified. The opposition Patriotic Front (PF) through its mouth-piece The Post newspaper had warned President Banda that he would not be welcomed to Luapula because the people there were strongly behind PF leader Michael Chilufya Sata.
The crowd at the airport was ecstatic. And the message was clear for all to read: “RB for 2011”. Some of the PF members used the occasion to jump ship and rejoin the MMD.
After addressing the crowd, President Banda immediately boarded his presidential chopper en route to Chiengi where he was due to meet with the vocal Senior Chief Puta VII of the Bwile people.
Outside the palace, several hundreds of people gathered to welcome President Banda and his entourage. The crowd that turned up at a makeshift airstrip just a few metres away from the palace was almost double the crowd in Mansa. Chief Puta strolled out of the palace accompanied by President Banda. The two leaders walked to the makeshift tent where the Bwile elders and headmen had gathered to deliver a message to President Banda.
Some sat in the scorching sun, using their bare hands to shield themselves from the sun, in an attempt to catch a glimpse of the man the opposition claimed would not be welcomed in Luapula.
Indeed, the opposite was the truth.
“Your Government is our source of pride in terms of development in Chiengi,” said Chief Puta in opening his address
Yeah the has to back to court and answers the questions, its pointless to let the walking away while evidences are their, he spoiled all the mines look how the country is suffering,copperbelt was suppose to be shining with tall building in the town centre, miners are suffering becos of him, he should go back to kanfinsa prison with hard labour, ~X(~X(~X(@-)@-)=)):o
OH OH this PACT! So they will take over administration of justice from the Judiciary! I thought politicians will concentrate on their duties. What kind of govt will it be. I hope this Kakoma was joking, otherwise Zambia will become a failed state.
‘umulandu taubola’ and ‘umulandu mume’ so Mr. FTJ Chiluba, the cases will one day catch up with you!!
ka kapita makandi yobe
The Pact should perhaps bury its head in the sand like an ostrich and thereby expose to us the parts that are really doing the thinking for them. The DPP is independent so how are they going to coerce him to do this? Or are they going to abrogate the constitution and influence him to act according to their whim? This party seems to think that playing the anti-Chiluba card is popular, well, they will be in for a surprise. Chiluba may not be popular to The Post and its voyeurists, but the’ tuntemba’ society love him. We wait to see who wins this battle. I know where my money is. I may not be keen on Chiluba, but I trust that justice has been done.
Just wait until the pact wins. Even the current president has questions to answer I think. Doragate (The Dora Siliya case) needs to be answered. People will see!
The Saint you must be an idi-ot who doesn`t know how the system works in Africa. Akapondo banoko utumapuli ubunono.
The pact still unclear. who will be the president and vice president. There will be power struggle at the last minute as by now Sata wants to go to state house, while HH is campaighing for the same post HH 2011 …. The chinese investors will be pulling half what they have invested incase Sata took over they will end up lossing the trapped investment. HH has no regard to who the investor should be/originate. What else can the pact promise the people to win votes… will the fulfil that promise. Earlier Sata promised to free Chiluba and develop Zambia in 90 days. Vote wisely :d
Questions;
1. Richard Kapita: When is the pact going to form government, 2021?
2. Francis Simenda: Do you think that issuing registration cards can be done in that selective manner? You seem to assume that all government workers are MMD members, very naive indeed and you call yourself a serious politician! Isn’t the UPND leadership ashamed that a once serious party has been reduced to an appendage of cobra and his shameless lies? And you think pact can form GRZ, that will be the day indeed!
#57, 58 You are both right. I am not sure where this pact is leading us to. This idea of promising people to undo what the MMD is doing does not amuse me in the absence of how Mr. Kapita and the pact intend to develop my country. That is all I care more for. Levy failed to fix Chiluba, and therefore, let’s not be cheated that this is a simple task.
#56 Be blessed and be joyful.
Veteran your ignorance and stupidity shines through in your failure to identify yourself first and foremost .Before you unleash your verbal diarrhea on the unsuspecting massess consider your sources of information and check the facts ,which one of us drug devotee’s is a school drop out? i understand you’re simply trying to promote your less than fit candidate for election, but it’s because of the likes of you that mother Zambia suffers from a lack of progress ,you and your simple minded cronies get together sip on some low quality, cheap brew ,cook up some crap and pass it off as fact ,ha ha thanks for making me laugh today i needed the comic relief. Pull up your skirt and grow a set man, claim your words so i can address you properly.
night night. [-(