Opposition Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata has instructed his lawyers to commence legal proceedings against Second Republican President Fredrick Chiluba over the allegations he made against him during a press briefing yesterday.
Mr Sata Confirmed to QFM this morning that he has written to his lawyers instructing them to commence legal proceeding against the former head of State.
He said Dr Chiluba has no immunity and that his desire to please president Rupiah Banda will land him in problems. He further stated that the attacks by Dr Chiluba against him are tricks by the former president to divert attention from real issues. Mr Sata said Dr Chiluba wants to wage a verbal war against him so that President Banda’s alleged efficiencies cannot be highlighted by the opposition.
Mr. Sata said the Patriotic Front and the United Party for National Development will remain focused to ensure that Zambians are liberated from the suffering which the MMD has subjected them to.
And Second Republican President, Dr. Fredrick Chiluba has challenged opposition Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata to respond to the issues raised against him during yesterday’s press conference instead of dodging them by insulting and making derogatory statements against him.
Dr. Chiluba through his spokesperson, Emmanuel Mwamba questioned Mr. Sata’s morality for persistently insulting him. Mr. Mwamba explained that Dr. Chiluba is not interested in petty and dirty politics which the PF leaders is perpetrating and forcing him into.
Mr. Mwamba said Mr. Sata has constantly insulted Dr.Chiluba by questioning his life style, spiritual, social and political life, for a very long time. He has since challenge the PF leader to answer the questions raised by the former during his press conference yesterday and stop indulging in politics of insults.
QFM
this is the sata i know bane!. nice move sata, from suing for cockroaches found in sprite to now this. nice one.
but iye lelo i was out bane shopping, elo diarrohea yayisa yanjikata, bane it was bad. i just ran kunanda, i was with my wifes brother i just left him and started running, ah i dont know what i drunk bane. deuces bane:)>-
mmm ni njombo mu picture iyo, kwati nayena ili pa payroll =))
cell phone nayena kwati ala landa na ma fellaz vaku alaska =)) deuces:)>-
Lt please refrain from giving explicit captions to pictures. ati sandwiched. deuces:)>-
I join millions of other noble patriotic Zambians in registering our gratitude for these frontiers opening up as useful opportunities.Here is Sata going to the same justice systemm he has been defaming as court, pro-MMD, anti justice and illegal.
Chiluba Please keep quiet. We are not happy with your :((:((:((:((
iye imwe!! tatalesa mayooooo, nafuma pa phone na ba madam, my wife, ati she is pregnant. we are expecting bane.iye, ka walai akanono, iye ama blessings sure, i will even reduce blogging bane. deuces :)>-:)>-:)>-:d
Chiluba should not be insulting the Catholic Church. When the Church was fightin KK Chiluba was very happy and did not complain. The Catholics are complaining because the MMd has become worse than KK. If they (MMD) want praises from the Church, they have to change their evil ways.
this is the way to go. Sata is 10 steps ahead of FTJ. This is a civilised society no cho chise type of thing. If you have an allegation better be sure its correct. If FTJ was wrong what an embarrassement
Does eceive the Eucharist after fathering 5 children with the first wife, then Kaseba and now Petronela Mpundu sister of His most outspokenn Mpika Bishop? Who is Petronella Mpundu, a biological sister to Bishop Mpundu of the Catholic Church? Do you have any relationship with her? Are her two children Mukupa and Chilufya your children? Are you the biological father of Mukupa and Chilufya? Is it consistent with catholicism? Didn’t Bishop Mpundu know this which Sata has just accepted?
i hpe the ka kid wont come out too light mwe, eh problem nama coloured kuti kafuma kwati umusungu, but blood yandi ikali bane. awe i am happy, i love you all bane, deuces :)>-:)>-:)>-:d
# 7 are you sure there is enough space in the world for two of WALAI’S.?
The verb thief describe a person who has a pechant for comverting someone else’s property their. Property is this case is used very variedly and may mean a human being as well. Well, there is irrefutable evidence that FTJ did during his tenure misapply his influence by converting both national and household properties to himself. And he is so proud to state that Regina was acquired correctly. What bullocks!
Why did he vehemently oppose the independence of Zambia in 1964 and worked oppressively for the his erstwhilee masters as an oppressor constable against the progressive independence crusaders even when all Zambians had line-up pro-independence? Why did run away later on to the UK following independence onlyy to be a cook and kaboyi for the same oppressors whenn patriotic Zambians he opposed were emancipating the country?
Sata should just move into the court house! He is always suing this one or that one. Anyways, dont particularly like Chiluba but you could not expect to keep him quiet when he was being insulted. These two have a lot more secrets about each other which will be coming in out in dribs and dabs. Seems the opposition is in disaray at the moment. MMD have already started campaigning but the opposition dont even know who will be their leader.
well well, i suppose Chiluba never saw this one coming, he thought it will be the same Sata style of talking talking. Now its the courts FTJ, i hope you have all your facts in order. You better make good friends with the Bishop and his sister or else the little dignity you have will go down the toilet
Lesa twafweni its no longer interesting just reading on who said what to who, palast these leaders have no interest to save zambians but themselves and their immediate families. We surely don’t need this, we have alot of problems to tackle together as zambians regardless to which political party we belong to, mwebantu kwati tuli mazombies sure just see how we insult each other, then what? I feel sorry for our children what zambia are going to leave for them. At some point all this bickering is tiring. 🙁
Senior Citizen,# 14, that was 46 years ago. we are in the future now. Dont dwell in the past, whats gone is gone. even if Sata told you why he did what he did what benefit will that be to the country.
If he has a political science degree from Matero University, Why does he fail to write coherently minutes to the point of disgracing the entire party and landing a vote of no confidence?Why does he write in Taiwanese with comas from the begginning of a sentence and question marks in place of commas.Political Science is reading and writing intensive degree a person who fails to write cannot pull through.Hon.Mwaanga as SG of MMD had beenn timely submitting immaculately written party reports, Paul Tembo use use to and Dr.Katele does so all in English, but why this devil incarnate failure?
Why was he lying against his personal enemies to the President to deport them as PNG when the State Security had found nothing wrong about those individuals? Was it his job to force people deported.Can he face innocent people he was framing up? He is likely to face these people now inn kind.
Does he receive the Eucharist after fathering 5 children with the first wife, then Kaseba and now Petronela Mpundu sister of His most outspokenn Mpika Bishop? Who is Petronella Mpundu, a biological sister to Bishop Mpundu of the Catholic Church? Do you have any relationship with her? Are her two children Mukupa and Chilufya your children? Are you the biological father of Mukupa and Chilufya? Is it consistent with catholicism? Didn’t Bishop Mpundu know this which Sata has just accepted?
Is it true that Bishop Mpundu is your ‘brother in law?’ Complain about this comment!!!lol. Go and produce and feill the earth. This is good for Sata, child spacing, some in LSK and others in the CB.
Sata should also ask FTJ if he paid back the 10pin KK keeps talking about. Zambia at cross roads again. This circus continues, MMD wins 2011 elections again. Here we come again 5 more years. Complain about this comment.lol Its a circus again. MMD we win beyond 2031
# 20 FTJ deported william banda for no real reason and he only came back when LPM was president, so dont talk about deportation.You are only reacting to one side of the story has Sata confirmed that he cant articulate himself in English?
The guy who insults the courts go back to it begging………Sata has been nicely sorted, his eyes today are extremely red, he’s a red linso lelo! He’s been humbled
Senior Citizen reading your posts tells me you re not living in Zambia,you re not having to see how your beloved MMD policies are failing the poor average Zambians who have no access to the internet which you seem to be exploiting to propagate your parties misdeeds.Am sure you are a beneficiary of the Chiluba regime.Wanya nkankulowa ubu chushi so that you feel,i think thats the only way to deal with chaps like you.
It is common sense not to mention people’s names if you are making allegations. Now Chiluba has made himself vulnerable to law suit from Petronella Mpundu, Those are simple basics the former custodian of the constitution should know. You dont mention names without permission.
What a bunch of nonsense from ba Sata. After being the first at issuing a barrage of insults and all manner of defamations against Chiluba all this while, he now even has the audacity to turn around like the true snake that he is, and register a complaint with the same courts he has labelled as unfair and pretend to be the aggrieved party?
What a useless impulsive character for a president!
Lelo Ikazanda sinama. I hope ba FJT bali nama ****iti.
Why is sata runinig to the court when he used to insult FTJ broad daylight! He’s been squashed mukanwa
# 24 the boy with sneakers and pierced ears, do you have proof that Sata insulted the court?
#26, conversely, it can be argued Chiluba is so sure he is on firm ground that he doesn’t hesitate to name names. In other words these are not allegations but facts.
Chiluba is winning , sata is defeated the reason he is going to court. It appears that the truth hurts so much, He cant even answer back, Hakasata started this game, now its becoming bitter. RB is insulted everyday, real insults but to PF caresd this is good. even the POST supports these insults.
I am supprised that PF cadres are saying that what is in the past should be in the past, Can I say that people should also forget about the alleged Crimes Chiluba did since they are also in the past. The PF comp is under pressure
I think we need to applaud Mr Micheal Sata, he agitates the situation when Chiluba opens up he makes so many mistakes he will be dragged to court. What Sata has done is to limit the damage as it wont be up for discussion as it will be before the courts of law. So MMD cant use the evidence Chiluba alluded to until the case is disposed off. Sata is the man
Bamu Sortinga mwami…………………………………….
I join millions of other noble patriotic Zambians in registering our gratitude for these fertile frontiers opening up as useful opportunities.Here is Sata going to the same justice systemm he has been defaming everywhere as courts of the MMD which are anti justice, corrupt, imppossible to deliver justice and operating illegally.I have no doubt that these baseless suits of a cornered thug on raised grounds will be thrown out with cost.What a paradoxical sore loser loser embattled on all moral fronts.
The MMD strategic campaign machinery with RB should instead stay steadfast around the country with national agenda of development, transformation and total stability.Let the devil incarnate stay entangled with his acts of aberrations.Let Zambians of noble character open him up more fronts. Nangu ichalo chalititwa kuti chayonawina nechinangwa ichi for leadership.A chap who cannot read or write?
Sata must think twice what he wants to challenge FTJ on… becoz parternity testing for example might complicate his ‘life’… but also the fact that we worked for white man during the dark days may be difficult to contest…very interesting…. the sad thing is the ‘big’ guys quaelling over shit.
uno mwaka tawapwe I cabinet minister alafwa and another senior gov official alefwa empompelele
Why was he lying against his personal enemies to the President to get them deported as PNG when the State Security had found nothing wrong about those individuals? Was it his job to force people deported.Can he face innocent people he was framing up? He is likely to face these people now inn kind.
I cant believe it! Politics is a dirty game. When Mwanawasa was alive Chiluba had a good bond with PF. PF gave Chiluba alot of support; they would see if off and welcome him at the airport during his trips to and from South Africa for medical treatment. What has made this marriage sour today? Sata at one time even mentioned that if he became president he was not going to arrest Chiluba for his alleged stealing.I bet the MMD has offered a bigger deal to Chiluba, than PF, for his support.
On return from his bukaboyi in london, did he join the Alice Lenshina’s Lumpa sect movement which was forcing urine and death on Zambians?
Talking about courts and Sata, what happened to the impeachment process against RB?
# 30 @yahoo.com says: ………………Are you one of the kids named by FTJ?
# 37 if you read the post newspaper Sata has not denied having Children out of wedlock, i think the law suit is about him being called a polygamy. Then plus other things.
Very untypical of Sata, the one that I know wallows in insults. If Sata stood on solid ground he would insult his way out of this. But typical of him, he will sue, tell his lawyer Bonaventure to vacillate hoping Zambians will soon forget the issues raised, and then withdraw the case. Just buying time, and trying to ensure that FJT does not reveal anything else, after all it would be subjudice in the justice system (go on FJT, reveal all before the matter goes to court). But no ba Sata you are mistaken, trying to close the door when the horses have bolted! Ba Sata take my free advice, ignore Bonaventure or that good for nothing, useless lawyer nephew of yours Kabimba. You are fatally wounded politically, political aspiration is chapwa for you now, i.e. if you had aby chance at all!
@yahoo.com……. You seem to be a crippled man..wisdom tells me not to argue with such a chap!
# 42 which one are you? Zambiatta or Bombasa something? Two names one person, is that how you have duped I N S ? just come back to Zambia how long can you duck and dive?
Take him to court. Now more staff gonnah come out. Scared little men. Citizen shushushu we re watching you:d
Deformation of character is a very serious crime anywhere in the world but Zambia. How can you say Sata was enjoying himself during the one-party state. Sata changed the face of Lusaka when he was governor. What you did Dr. Chiluba in the name of privatisation and free market was to destroy everything that KK and our parents worked so hard to achieve.
Dr. Chiluba do you tknow the ethnological origin of the word “politics” it comes from being polite but I guess this is foreign in Zambia. Please focus on building roads so that people in the villages can bring their farm produce to the markets. Repair the roads that KK and the likes of Sata built. Stop talking about the past focus on the future. You can not be underdeveloped for ever. Provide proper schools, hospital and parampampa etc.
Sata is in SADC!! He is just following in Zuma’s steps!! VIVA Pabwato!!!
#44.. walasa boy.. sata has been fatally wounded politically and will never recover from this!
#7 walai nthwenu mputi bizness
Congratulations. You are a worthy rival here but I hope that your language genes are weaker than your colur genes so that your kamukaladi baby is better spoken. I wish you well and may you have plenty of sleep ease. Is this your first one? I hope it is not Teresphor Mpundu’s relative, like your man… (lol).
Anyway, all the best!
# 45, yes im on a wheel chair so you can call me a cripple but i dont pretend to be two people when i am 1. who will i be fooling any way?
I like the way he reacts and comes out on the paper when faced with reality from his political opponents!
I am sure this is just the beginning of circus. Let’s wait and see, Zambians
Ba 33, the damage has been done to Sata, and FATALLY. Hiding behind the courts of law (especially those that you condemned) will raise more questions than answers for Sata: people will believe what Chiluba has said, and will further be asking what else Sata is hiding? And as long as there are no answers forthcoming from Sata, he is guilty in the eyes of the public (I mean the voters) until proven innocent by the courts of law. Talk about being foolish and digging your own grave! Some of us already knew Sata’s amorous escapades. If I were Sata I would simply do a Zuma, i.e. admit!
Unfortunately, VJ is no longer your friend becoz he has fully teamed up with Sata.VJ should have given you more details on handling these marriage issues.
IM PLANNING TO VISIT MAUREEN MWANAWASA NEXT WEEK
WALAI NTHWENU you have just brought in the world another Mechanic or truck driver
I will keep watching as to who plays better chess-like game between Mr Chiluba FTJ and Mr MC Sata.
So far, Mr Sata seems to be living upto his words in the POST of suing Mr chiluba but let us wait and see.
Be blessed all.
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Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of god and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.
Unfortunately, VJ is no longer your friend becoz he has fully teamed up with FTJ. VJ should have given you more details Mr MCS on handling these marriage issues.
IM PLANNING TO VISIT MAUREEN MWANAWASA NEXT WEEK
Mr Sata always seeks court protection whenever anyone has credible information on his dealings. Currently the the former Secretary General is court because he dared to speak of financial irregularities in Mr Sata’s office at PF. Chiluba has asked very candid questions and they don’t need a court process to be answered.To repeat the questions: Who is Petronella Mpundu? Where the two of her children fathered by Mr Sata? The courts are loaded with legitimate cases and the issues related to Mr Sata and HH can be handled in a press briefing.
Can anybody from the PF camp answer me, why goes SATA change positions every time . in 2006 he said chiluba was innocent, today he says he is guilty, WHY WHY
This game is becoming interesting for me. The man was president and he has information on everything even HH
If you need change, pick on Prf Chirwa or somebody else, now any of these piliticians
SATA IS WASTING TIME HE HAS NO CASE. THERE IS NO ACCUSATION CHILUBA MADE. HE ONLY POSED QUESTIONS. HE NEVER SAID THEY WERE HIS KIDS OR THAT PETRONELLA WAS HIS WIFE. HE SIMPLY ASKED SATA QUESTIONS WHICH SATA HAS FAILED TO FULLY ANSWER
I would wait and see whether sata actually fulfils his word of suing. usually its just a gimmick. see how the post are not even sure how to respond.
# 46….. It seems you were just introduced to the world of Computers some weeks ago. This is a free platform for anyone to air their views, if chakubaba bcoz you are pro PF then you are on the wrong platform iwe kabova!
# 54 MR kUNDA, Sata has admitted to having children out of marriage. ITs what else was said that he has dragged the chap to court. By the look of things Sata didnt write much so they will be very little evidence to back up Chiluba. FTJ’s claims will mostly turn out to be hearsay and will be thrown out of court
# 46.. im older than you, how dare you call me boyi, iwe bochocho!
#57 Maestro, when is your leader HH throwing his hat into the ring? Has he decided to play chicken. I think from a biblical point of view, if you know the truth and look away when injustice is being committed, you are guilty of sin of omission. Can HH come out and explain why despite knowing full well where the USD 12 million was, but rather decided to keep quite so that our former president get false accused. Why did he not out of morality step up to the plate and say, yes Chiluba is a Thief, but he did not steal the $12m. My company got it and I received a commission off that money. He just can’t play chicken now. Let him be man enough and through his hat in the ring or some of us we shall forever call him ICHILEMA
Suing for being asked a question? Silly snake
Seems like the Lusaka floods are sinking the bwato:((
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. WERE YOU FIRED FOR STEALING? SO THE CATHOLIC BISHOP IS SUPPORTING YOU BECAUSE YOU FATHERED CHILDREN WITH HIS SISTER? WHY IS THE BISHOP HAPPILY DISHING OUT EUCALYST TO SATA AND SATA WILLINGLY ACCEPTING WHILE DAILY LIVING IN SIN? CAN SATA SPELL ” JELITA OR MULENGA” HE CANT …. PART TWO IS FOLLOWING SHORTLY…WELCOME TO ZED THE REAL AFRICA.YAVUTA BOLA!
Senior Citizen tawakwata amano ulinkoko, how much av they paid you to buy pamele and mashroom for one week
Sata has to be careful as he is going to do himself too much damage. HE is spreading himself too thin. He is in a battle with HH over the leadership of the PACT, he has RB to deal with, he has his issues with the Chitimukulu as well as the Rebel MPs and now this with Chiluba? Seems he is slowing losing his grip.
#60 betters
I agree with you. If the PACT want to see power, they should forget about SATA and HH and pick somebody like Prof Chirwa, or court Magande or even get that Lewanika woman.
Sata is like S E X drive or a cyclone. He needs to be controlled and given boundaries. If left uncontrolled he will wreck our great country. Sata works well under supervision. Just see how he has failed to run councils.
HH is a corporate gunslinger. The way he decimated UPND is unpardonable. This is a party that had great brains and used to use issue their parallel budget and he used tribalism to hound out the rightful heirs to that presidency throne. This man is not a team player and you need to be a team player who can work with everybody. Not HH,please.
King Solomon i am disappointed in you. Yesterday you were the one who brought this story to the fore i cant believe you didnt read what you were posting? or were you just copying and pasting? go back to your yesterday postings. Any way FTJ did accuse Sata of being a polygamist and challenged him to deny it. FTJ alleged that Sata never divorced Petronella but went on to marry Kaseba. So now it will be up to FTJ to prove that Sata has two wives. Plus the other allegations, Boss i thought you read your stuff, what sort of a King are you?
There goes my man FTJ. Sir you are wonderful man of the moment. No body can chalenge you.
I know you very well as a famous Political Engeneer of Southern African States. You are very intelligent I can beleive this. Oh take it cool my former President. ( muleba lepulako panono panono; ba unfwikisha no uluse ) Carry on man !
So, Chiluba did not do any good during his tenure of office? Remember, Chilimbulu, Burma, Great North, Great East, Lusaka – Kabwe – Ndola, Kitwe – Chingola, Lusaka – Livingston roads when MMD took over from UNIP? Tip-top, tarino, kwench… no apples, coca cola. Applying for forex from BOZ. How long it took to go to any district using UBZ? Un-serviced council houses, democracy, freedom of association? Yes there are other areas which he did not do well, privatisation is one case, health and education are the other and the third term bid was a waste of time and resources.
Chiluba had his pluses and minuses he does not deserve a wholesale condermnation. Same applies with KK and Mwanawasa.
So, Chiluba did not do any good during his tenure of office? Remember, Chilimbulu, Burma, Great North, Great East, Lusaka – Kabwe – Ndola, Kitwe – Chingola, Lusaka – Livingston roads when MMD took over from UNIP? Tip-top, tarino, kwench… no apples, coca cola. Applying for forex from BOZ. How long it took to go to any district using UBZ? Un-serviced council houses, democracy, freedom of association? Yes there are other areas which he did not do well, privatisation is one case, health and education are the other and the third term bid was a waste of time and resources.
Chiluba had his pluses and minuses he does not deserve a wholesale condermnation. Same applies with KK and Mwanawasa.
#67 HH, you have made my day =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) Surely how do you sue for being asked questions, even if you have Taiwanese dollars to burn on lawyers. Awe mwe, ya shupa bola
# 65, posting # 46 does not mention anything on age. Are you that dillusional? or simply dull?
# 72 Papa J
HH coming from the cooperate world of Joint Ventures and Mergers He Created a Joint Venture with PF just to win a Tender from the Zambian People.
Joint Ventures and Mergers are usually created when management of on company fail to run it and instead the weaker one become a puppet of the stronger one in a JV, eg Sonny Erickson, HP-Compaq
Who knows maybe if he becomes president he might make Zambia a Joint Venture with Britain ! or Zimbabwe, a bad test
Bakamba bamishute yeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!! Sata are you mauless or what?
BREAKING NEWS!
Petronella Mpundu, a biological sister to Bishop Mpundu of the Catholic Church and mother of Sata’s two children;Mukupa and Chilufya Sata an employee of the Bank of Zambia, Ndola branch has offered to testify in the courts of law that one Michael Sata on a hypocritical moral platitude is in active pigamy with her with full concert of the Roman Catholic Bishop Mpundu.Untill now she says Sata treats her as his third wife and sleeps with her whenever he is on the Ndola. And in national security data interest, the Government of Zambia is in retention of all Sata’s colonial Government Police background record which every President constitutionally accessed. Besides his failure to read and write, his colonial record is one ground why all President say he is a misfit for P1.
# 79 i beg to differ on the PACT. After the last elections it was observed that MMD barely manged to win the elections , had the opposition consolidated their vote MMD would have been beaten by a long shot. so it only makes sense to follow that route if you have a common goal.
# 81 grow up, will you? who do you think can believe that nonsense.
i think zambia has really gone 50 years backwards to have pipo like the senior something to comment hopelessly like that. even if chiluba had a point he was not suppose to take things personal like attacking so carelessly a man he closely worked with and a person who stood by his side when the so call senior citizen had departed away from him. it is the highest order of betrayal for kafupi to behave in a very UNGODLY when he is preaching that he is a christian. let chiluba goo to hell and marry satan iam tired with him and i think the zambian pipo are
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Catch-22!
FJT takes all his time before answering with detail and sagacity to to the hate crusade and insults of Sata and his legion on him.When does it in a blue moon, he drops a B-52 bomber that penetrates the bone and marrow obliterating losers leaving some in total confusion running to the same courts they have been insulting.Catch-22!
64, There is nothing untrue about what FJT has said. It is common knowledge and the judges probably know it all. All that has happened is that it has been brought into the public domain. The issue is that if you spend your time accusing others of wrong doing, the implication is that you ypurself are a saint. So is Sata a saint as he portrays himself? Is it moral for him to receive Eucharist? Like somebody else has said, we should not be wasting the precious time of our courts. Sata simply needs to answer at a press briefing where journalists can seek clarifications. Flirting with the post for cheap publicity is a double edged sword.
How many children does Ka Chilu FTJ have ???? and with how many wives????? Vera was not the first one Regina was stolen, Does anyone know who was the first wife????? please share the infor.
I know one child ( Wakumbali ) Dalinton Chiluba am sure Kafupi has a lot now he is being protected by one Pepe Kale AlaaBee, time will tell. Senior fimo fimo is just another haina
Its surprising that people are happy commeting on sata and chiluba, when we have important issues to talk about in Zambia, at the moment, poverty, the roads, health and education, the personal issues on these two gentleman derails the policitical system.
i always say it.sata can not match chiluba`s intelligence.achepa sana even with the backing of membe
#5 ulicipuba sana ayi? Where do you want Sata to sue Ka uturi forest?
why does the flags on most blogger show foreign flags, it it an error on this site or they are outside the country
Mr Toyota what FTJ said is he asked sata whether he did ‘ichombela nganda’ (THOSE WHO KNOW KNOW THAT THIS IS DONE ONLY FOR A MARRIED COUPLE, MEANING YOUR IN-LAWS ALLOW YOU TO ENTER EVEN THE BEDROOM) with PEtRonella or not? He did not say that he did not divorce petronella. F.Y.I> sata was welcomed into the mpundu family and a ceremoney was held during the kasama bye-election, thats why sata has failed to answer that question. there are a lot of witnesses who were there and drank beer. FTJ I say again has only asked questions. HE HAS MADE NO DIRECT ACCUSATION AGAINST SATA AND SATA WILL HAVE DIFFICULTIES DENYING. THERE ARE MANY WHO KNOW ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT LADY AND THE BISHOP NOW ALSO CANNOT REFUSE BECAUSE IF HE DOES HE WILL BE UNDRESSED SEVERELY IN PUBLIC.
Americans says in the end good prevail over evil. Looks like things are getting worse and worse for Sata.
In the end Evil is defeated. Is this the beginning of the end?
GBM paid for the whole thing and there was a lot of booze and the bishop was there to witness and a number of senior PF cadres. the good thing is zambia still has an effective system for gathering information and all the pictures are there and witnesses are waiting to be called including sata’s own relatives and dr. kaseba’s relatives also will testify. if i was the old man I would seize fire and focus on campaigning and leave chilubs to enjoy his freedom. fighting a man who has nothing to lose is a big mistake. thats why he said he has been president already and so does not want any new political office.
You belong to same camp, you sue each each, Rupiah controls the court, fatherless and demonic Kafupi wins, we the people lose. He go say I’m President.
I think it is ridiculous to defend Sata by saying even Chiluba has children out of wedlock. Why did Sata bring up the issue when he was aware that he also has skeletons in his cupboard? Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Sata is now paying for his big mouth and the Posts goading. If they had ignored Chiluba’s trip to the CB none of this would have been happening. This issue also shows how uninformed those who say Chiluba is not a force are. If he was not a force then why did Sata and Membe give Chiluba the oxygen of publicity? Sata should be strategising and harmonising with HH not going in and out of court.
I wonder why Chiluba complains being called a thief when in the actual fact they found him guilty of stealing money by the London Court. Whether the case has been registered in Zambia or not the fact is Chiluba was found guilty by a reliable court that cannot be corrupt. The only thing he can do is accept being a theif.
I dont think there is anything wrong to have someone who can write better Taiwanese than English, as long as he can communicate. And the thing is not everyone is good at everything. By the way where is the origin of Sata’s Degree isnt one of them from Taiwan if it is then is there any problem if one knows Taiwanese. Am waiting for HH to speak, i think HH is inocent and why should he have presented evidence when he was not asked for it. And why didnt Chiluba in the first
well said katubi. its obvious the local brew has not drowned your intellect!!!
…place say that HH knew about it, so he himself is to blame. And why is it now that LEVY has died Chiluba has started to speak a lot and he has stopped getting sick and fainting. Has he sudenly been healed. Anyhow who knows.
trigo, London court did not find him guilty. whats wrong with you guys. you dont get it do you. the london court judgement was simply a civil case and not a criminal case and so the burden of evidence is less taxing. the london court judgement has already being discredited as meer, care and malik sued and were given back their money by the british court of appeal. THE COURT DID NOT HAVE POWER TO PRONOUNCE GUILT OF INNOCENCE IT SIMPLY SAID THAT THE FTJ OWES MONEY TO ZAMBIAN GOVERNMENT. THE SUPREME COURT OF ZAMBIA WILL THROW OUT THAT CASE ONCE IT REACHES THEM. MAYBE EVEN THE HIGH COURT MAY THROW IT OUT ONCE THE CASE IS HEARD
So you Zambians that is the kind of Presido you want to have, one who can only write Taiwanese English, with full stops when he decides to breathe? My foot, li Sata ni semi-iliterate politician gifted with making noisy. Sata will never lead a country, that we know.
I wonder why Chiluba had to mentione Archbishop Telesphore Mpundu it seems to me that he is trying to make a connection between Sata and Telesphore as being relatives and defending one another and creating a situation of questioning the morality of Telesphore Mpundu and his family. But one thing for sure its not working beacuse Telesphore is a different person from the sister and the sister could even be a pentecostal rather than a catholic.
The other thing of Sata recieving the Eucharist he is doing so because he never got Petronella as his wife, yes he does have two children with here but not his wife. Yes he committed a sin and he repented and God forgave him and he recieves the Eucharist with his head high.Dont be wondering why did Telesphore not stop him?NO wrong question.
Because at the time levy was alive he could not speak and LPM was working hand in hand with Post, lawyers, judges and donors. so all odds were stacked ahgainst FTJ but he survived to tell the truth. FTJ always said he was innocent and the Levy produced a huge dossier of millions but only charged FTJ with theft of 500 pin dollars!!!!! even levy himself accepted that FTJ had money in the account. let him speak just like sata is allowed to speak. now we want to know who the mother of all corruption is????
ba trigo, Sata had a traditional bemba ceremony of inchombela inganda in kasama and bishop mpundu was there. so dont try to be clever here. sata has not answered that question, did he did he not receive the marital ceremony and was he not officially welcomed in the home of the mpundu’s in kasama?
King Solomon, You see the thing is he has been told to pay back the money right? if he is to pay back the money meaning it is money which is not his and in this case the money belongs to Zambians and not Chiluba right? so if its not his money and he got someones money without there rightful permission it means he stole the money. the one who steals is a theif. Isnt it?
and according to catholic canon law any divorcee is not allowed to receive Eucharist when chiluba received it there was an uproar by the catholic church and clergy. even Prince charles who has remarried cannot take eucharist. it is very clear. so FTJ is questioning the hypocrisy of the church. bishop mpundu must take time before answering otherwise he will be embarrassed severely because he has known about his sister and sata for a lonmg time and even when sata was marrying dr. kaseba he knew but did not intervene. please read past editions of post when sata he had only one wife dr. kaseba and that he had changed but only to find he is still fathering children. you are forgetting the bank of zambia girl in ndola!!!!
but its not proven beyond reasonable that he got the money
i mean beyond reasonable doubt
So Sata now goes back to the same courts that according to him freed Chiluba under dubious means to sue the same Chiluba? What a circus! So logically, Sata he is wasting his time seeing as though the courts and judges have been bought? I think what is really important about this row is what it says about political associates and allies in Zambia. Sata and Chiluba were at one time inseperable, now the hatred between them is kaya. Now what does this say about the PACT that is built on a relationship thatis much more fragile than the one that kept Sata and Chiluba together? Sata and Chiluba are both damaged goods, neither of them should have a role to play in Zambian politics.
King Solomon see the Post online right now if possible Sata has answered the question of the inchombela inganda, that it didnt take place. and many other issues have been answered such as him being fired or resigning etc. have a look. it gave me a thought.
I hope the same Bishop Mpundu does not suffer the same fate as Pious Ncube in Zimbabwe. A lot of these bishops also have a lot of skeletons in their cupboard and this shot from Chiluba who is indirectly warning the Catholic church.
SATA IDEAL FOR S-E-X THERAPY
Immediately all NGOs and the Catholic that give him Eucharist must work out a plan to take Michael Sata in for S-E-X THERAPY. He has proved to be a reckless s-e-x-u-a-l maniac enemy of the national anti HIV aids crusade. He is unfit for Plot 1. He would only take his –S-E-X-U-A-L perversion in there. He has to undergo some therapy to reform.
With bana Joyce Sata he had 5 kids without a record of divorce he went on to hock up ba Kaseba then Petronela Mpundu giving her 2 children not forgetting Joyce Nonde as a concubine.
He needs to go in a sex chamber for reformation now. Before this he cannot enter plot one for fear of turning it into a sex abattoir.
the saint number 51, thanks bane. i hope everything will be okay. You know i am so excited. i cant wait to see this baby, i have no words. we are really happy as we are, and i can only imagine when the baby comes. but guys only one person congratulated me? yashani? lets not be jelous. guys i might reduce blogging as my wife will need me most of the times, mwawumfwa? dont think i have hated anyone. its just that this is more important bane. ahhh nawumfwa wino! i love you all. deuces bane:)>-
number 30 at yahoo.com, tomfwa! haha ati boy with sneakers and earings haha=)). all i have in my mind is that he wears the same sneakers and earings without any other thing on. so ali mwenkesa with earings and sneakers. awe you have made me laugh. and it is very hard to make a person like walai laugh. deuces you ka mr bean:d/:)>-
Ba Sata abakashi bafulisha. This petronella Mpundu used to be at Ministry of Finance, not sure if she is still there. To say the least she is not even good looking and anyway for a young woman to have children with this old man to me sounds as if she is demented. However, thats not the point, the issue here is ba Sata, how many political parties have you belonged to surely? Lelo you are taking ba CHiluba whose finger once fed you? Please stop these politics of individualism, if CHiluba wants to support RB let him do that after all its a free country and iam sure he still belongs to MMD, the party RB supposedly belongs to and RB was once UNIP but ama politics yapa ZED no principles, as long as you are shown the money or a position you are good for, then you even forget which party you
ba walai nthwenu mputi bizness congratulations. But we were waing to hear that the baby is out so we can say properly kaili. But all the same congrtualtions. Tell us how the child will come out whether like you or the mother-you mention about the complexion earlier.
belong to or hwta you believe in. Bushe kwena what do you stand fall? Instead of campainging for next elections and telling Zambians who you really are and how you will improve their lives, you are now heading to court. I don’t think Zambians will be helped that way. Just focus onthe elections if you want to win and if you don;’t win this time please let someone else in PF stand in the next elections, bushe kwaliba umunthu umo wine ewiminina, ith nk these parties like PF and UPND are like personal to holder one to Sata and UPND to Hakainde (must be Tonga to qualify). Having said that i think these chaps are not democratic enough, if it was you would not be the sole candidates unless these parties have mebers who are dwanzi or are simply incompetent
SATA IDEAL FOR S-E-X THERAPY
Immediately all NGOs and the Catholic that give him Eucharist must work out a plan to take Michael Sata in for S-E-X THERAPY. He has proved to be a reckless s-e-x-u-a-l maniac enemy of the national anti HIV aids crusade. He is unfit for Plot 1. He would only take his –S-E-X-U-A-L perversion in there. He has to undergo some therapy to reform.
With bana Joyce Sata he had 5 kids without a record of divorce he went on to hock up ba Kaseba then Petronela Mpundu giving her 2 children not forgetting Joyce Nonde as a concubine.
He needs to go in a s-e-x chamber for reformation now. Before this he cannot enter plot one for fear of turning it into a s-e-x abattoir.
QUOTE FROM MCS: “On Chiluba’s assertions that there was a traditional marriage between Sata and Lusaka Catholic Archbishop Telesphore Mpundu’s sister, Petronella, which bore two children, Sata agreed that he has children with Petronella but there was no marriage involved.”
FTJ: “Sir, can you tell me who is Petronella Mpundu, a biological sister to Bishop Mpundu of the Catholic Church, who is she to you? Do you have any relationship with her, can you tell the country, not me?” Chiluba asked. “Are the two children Mukupa and Chilufya your children? Are you the biological father of Mukupa and Chilufya? Did you by any chance consummate your marriage with her in a Bemba customary arrangement known as ichombela ng’anda traditional marriage or not?”
NOW TRIGO WHERE HAS CHILUBA…
Did you by any chance consummate your marriage with her in a Bemba customary arrangement known as ichombela ng’anda traditional marriage or not?”
THIS LAST QUESTION HAS NOT BEEN ANSWERED PROPERLY BY SATA. AS YOU CAN SEE FTJ IS NOT A FOOL. HE HAS NOT ACCUSED HE HAS SIMPLY ASKED DIRECT QUESTIONS. THERE IS NO LIBEL HERE, SATA IS WASTING HIS TIME AND MONEY
Good Evening
Let me also jump on the bandwagon and congratulate walai for hitting the target – I hope you’ll be there for your woman when she needs you. Not ukumushya eka and go freaking out with the “baloon types”, Jamaican bunnies na utuma sweet sixteen of London city… :)>-
Now back to the story at hand: well, I can only say Mr. Sata has made the right decision by making use of the legal instrument to defend himself against the personal attacks. I only hope this whole temper tantrum and endless tirade of attempts by Zambian politicians to prove each other wrong will not plunge our country into an ugly political unrest.
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“Who is Petronella Mpundu, a biological sister to Bishop Mpundu of the Catholic Church? Do you have any relationship with her? Are her two children Mukupa and Chilufya your children? Are you the biological father of Mukupa and Chilufya?
Did you by any chance consummate your marriage with her in a Bemba customary arrangement known as ichombela ng’anda or not?”
Sata has just wasted his money. There is no case here. Dr. FTJ Chiluba has not accused Sata of anything. A simple Yes or No answer from Mr. Sata would have done but instead he has shot himself in the foot once again.
These are not accusations but questions. Did he or did he not consummate marriage with Petronella in a Bemba customary arrangement?
King solomon stop being ignorant and focus on the accusations of abuse of office that’s what matter to the zambian people. Having more than one wife is a common practice among most Africans men and the culture has allowed it for centuries. Most zambians have half brothers and sisters. The issue is the circumstance chiluba got regina, even flies pa zed knows she was still married to mwanza. The post exposed chiluba when it all started then he was still in power. Am a woman, I salute ba sata for his charm and charisam,all thewomen are highly educated, applying no one was taken advantage of (head teacher, lawyer, doctor and now banker). unlike ka Chiluba from house wife to maid and then sercretary turned political prostitute. He could have done better, as you can see, the calibre of women,
cont. from #125
But as usual, this case will be thrown out because there is no defamation here and Mr. Micheal Chilufya Sata (with PF cadres and Sympathizers) will once again accuse the judiciary of being compromised without proof.
Mr. Sata should just answer the questions. He has been challenged.
“He has since challenged the PF leader to answer the questions raised by the former during his press conference yesterday and stop indulging in politics of insults.”
number 123, i have reported you mune, its because i love you wawumfwa? deuces mune:)>-
abena nine chale and the rest, thank you soo much bane. ahh i ve stoped playing bane. i will be a father soon. thanks guys. deuces:)>-
Sata should not rush to court to silence anyone who says anything about him. Sata has been saying many things about Chiluba and even RB. All Chiluba has done is to dig dipper into Sata’s past and has asked very good questions which many PF cadres do not want to hear!!
Sata has no morals, he is corrupt, bankrupt(amano) and a Kaponya who does not serve to be a president.
HH is far better than Sata – Miles better. Unfortunately he seems to have been converted to think and act like Sata – conforming to Sata.
SAD. Sata just answer the simple questions Chiluba has posed to you. Do not use money to silence others.
Hi, I read some of the articles posted here. I read with sadness where you said Prof. chirwa should be a presidential candidate. I think these are MMD people trying to confuse people from the truth. No one in the pact support Prof. chirwa. he does not command any following. he is just like monkey backing when he want to evade maize field. This man of yours called prof. chirwa can not articulate issues. I was there in shiefield in uk when he called most zambian to tell us about his ambition. some time you even wonder if really he has a PhD. The man is very backward. please do not bring this UK criminal to rule zambia. In this case I can still fill HH will be their candidate not sata. if they put any other candidate, HH or Sata will pull out of this pact of yours.Then we will see chirwa..!!.
SENIOR CITIZEN, My first question would be when did you last go to zambia? Dude you are messed up with your patriotism to Banda and Chiluba. There is not much for them left best believe. Secondly according to the Catholic Church if Sata has kids out of wedlock it is upon Sata to reconcile himself with church and knowing sata as a devout catholic he would not reach communion until he has sought the sacrament of reconciliation and i take it Sata has done that. It is diffrent in the case of your cronie Chiluba who commited adultery and caused a house to be broken . The fact that he formerly married Regina two years after is immaterial because he was sleeping with her while she was in her matrimonial house hold. Did Sata commit adultery? absolutely, did he error? absolutely , did sata break
a family no he did not. He has acknowledged the fact that he had extra marital affairs at some point. What sata and the woman in question did was wrong and it was between the two. To bring Bishop Mpundu in this whole fiascal is totally wronk and cheap politicking. The Bishop may not have known or could have known but am sure it was beyond him as thats just his sister with a diffrent persona. I urge you to articulate facts and lastly thats why Sata feels the need to sue .
Sata is a failure and will never rule Zambia. He has an inflated EGO typical of illiterates. Now he thinks the courts will help him when he insulted everybody in Judiciary from top to bottom. Typical of illiterates- they have a chicken memory. Let sata say everything about chiluba too and the circle will be repeated in the end the public will benefit from the info and make informed decisions. Sata has flaccid neurons.
#123 I’m not going to take offense on you because of your insults which hurt the heart but not the soul. I forgive you – but for the sake of a clean site that everybody here would love to see, I have certainly logged a complaint. May you somehow STILL find joy and happiness in life, it is much shorter than you think…
Good action by Sata.
Sata is much smarter than Chiluba. Chiluba thinks like a crook/criminal/dribbler with no wisdom. I wonder if they are any well meaning people who listen to this disgraced little thief Chiluba.
#123 I have reported you
#134 Nine Chale nice comment bro.:):)
By the way, it is not the PACT but the PACK (of what? I dont know)
Luapula is no go area for some individuals. I dont know what he meant by that.
Yes Sata though i do not support you politically, intaking on this theif that does not have shame i am with you. This might translate into political support. How dare Thief FJT compare him self with dignified world leaders who are not covered in the faces on corruption as he is. I am very annoyed with RB for giving him this platfrom
Chiluba has been found guilty of plundering our country. By international courts! Under Saint LPM regime! Now how is he opening his dwarf mouth? He should just shut up and count how many shoes he managed to steal
Honestly I despair. I am thinking of starting a radical mosque in Lusaka so we can get rid of this nonsense
Since I seem to be in United Arab going by “my flag”
aha ha #130 thank you for opening my eyes to which chirwa we are dealing with. I also met the chap, too long in far away places with strange girls, he has no chance to do anything, he has drifted too too far away
Hey people NEWS FLASH – CHILUBA IS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL. Hello? Are there any Zambians who have a memory longer than the last ka gelo and the last ka bia? PLEASE!!!!
#133 I could say something about “chicken memories” but that might risk appearing to be “ad hominem” so I won’t
atase I start to think every zambian who has internet must be Chiluba’s illegitimate child. or father in the case of veteran and senior citizen. kuyabebeleeeeeeeeeeee
Number 139, I think blaming RB on this is not fair whether we support RB or not. RB has given all of a huge platform to sing, insult, dance etc. The POST is worse than the midget. SATA himself should also look back and watch his mouth. I used to be his supporter but l stopped for his own careless mouth. Now am wondering what he did in the colonial days.
Taking Chiluba to court is of no public value. Chiluba’s questions are issues of electability to public office that set the agenda from now until Election Day:
1. Is MC intellectually of sound education to formulate & communicate national policies consistently & coherently to Zambia and the world?
2. Does he conform to codes of human behavior culturally, worldly or by religious standards?
3. Has he got a criminal unforgivable political past incongruent to the position of president?
4. Is he organizes or chaotic (flip flop) in his conduct to his party PF & to the nation?
5. Has he been prudent in the control & use of resources in councils he controls?
By going to court without answering these questions, MC is being led to the final nail in his political coffin. There is nothing…
Nothing libelous about a couple of questions!
Number 149, ZNBC showed this famous conference tonight and there was nothing libel in it. Its just that I did not like it at all instead of building the nation the two elders are unadressing each other and Regina too must be ashamed of herself she knows what she did. Sata shouldnt have rushed to courts but could have preferred not to answer nor react but say the wise thing, “dont argue with a fool”, but hey he has already argued….. HH is quiet we will say what POST drops tomorrow but all this is unnecessary for mother Zambia. Let RB finish his part win or lose in 2011 we have another Presida and hoping that we have a better leader one who is selfless.
All these guys lead a polygamus life. I remember when Sata used to visit a lady that worked for ZNBC and lived at the first block in Kabwata near saint patricks. He cannot deny that he fathered a child with the same lady. Around the same time RB was befriending another woman in Kabwata Estates near Chilimbulu with whom he has a child, i suppose now she is a woman because at that time in 1987 Jersey was about 15 years.Chiluba should also mention this because we know that he also befriended Kutemba before snatching Regina.
Tacy no. 150, I thought Chiluba alluded to issues of former miners in the dying town of Luansha and above all need for national unity & avoidance of issues of no economic consequences such as those peddled by the post. In his examples, he shows that MC is an incredibly unsuitable, unstable and even dangerous man as commander in chief. Imagine a commander forgets to put a full stop between fight on and retreat in his telefax to the battle front! But seriously I think the MMD machinery has shown maturity and ability to come back.MC was a mistake right from Chawama massacre to the expulsion of 22 MMD MPs. He is quarrelsome. This does not bring progress.
We`ve been taken for a ride by these demagogues.At the time when unemployment has reached record highs,proverty affects 90% of the population,health care in shambles,road network in a total mess.The economy in dire stress yet these so called leaders are busy insulting and attacking each other.God help us from the influence and shackles of these visionless leaders.It`s a shame to be led by these disgruntled individuals.
Most of last week , L T was Sata free and i thought that was rather nice . Alas it was not to be for long..!…Things now back to normal …..Nuff said…….:(
Only in Zambia and on Zambian blog threads do you find cadres wittingly belaboring to shove in vain a publicly known S-e-x-u-a-l predator and pro-colonialism kaboke.Even when they know he is a risk to the nation and without an inch of winning against his will, they still burn in vanity waffling for nothing.
Ba Sata will lose flat on all counts raised with cost against the monologue of questions President Chiluba has tactfully challenged him with in question format. If he was smart or educated in Political science as he claims, he shouldn’t have taken this self embarrassing route to nowhere. Instead, he could have seen that Chiluba has intelligently applied typical critical theory speech tactics which is a course in Political Science. Where did Sata earn his BA Pol Science anyway?
The quack and the Fool going at each other throat ha ha ha:((
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President Sata need more and better grounded political advisors now than dependence on the novelty of Given Lubinda and Winter Kabimba misleading and triggering him embarrassment. I have just seen President Chiluba’s speech on LT. Why did Sata as an aspiring Presidential candidate keep defaming Chiluba on his faith, marriage and past when as an opposition he has a monumental task of selling his developmental policies to voters against the incumbent?
I Thought President Rupiah Banda and not Chiluba now tearing and occupying him when MMD is busy campaigning is his rival? Ba Sata should know better that even former Presidents have the constitutional right of association. Just he found it legal and ethical for FJT to support him in 2006 on whose name he…
Instead of running to the courts s-a-t-a-n-a you should be asking your good friends in Taiwan to help with a facility where you ca get some sex therapy.Admitting you have a problem is solving half of your zip problems.If Tiger Woods did it why can’t you did it?Am reliably informed that your donor are busy pulling out because they are scared that once you become president if ever you’ll sleep with their wives,left right and centre so Mr go and treat your zip sooner than later.We do not want to hear that your pace maker and ceased to work while you are busy trying to make babies with a 40 year old woman who sexually on a her peak when you need some vuka vuka to perform.You are a finished man ,no morals ,no future stop wasting the courts time, go to your Fred Mmeembe your PR…
I Thought President Rupiah Banda and not Chiluba now tearing and occupying him when MMD is busy campaigning is his rival? Ba Sata should know better that even former Presidents have the constitutional right of association. Just he found it legal and ethical for FJT to support him in 2006 on whose name he campaigned against Mwanawasa, Chiluba enjoys the constitutional rights to support RB and MMD the party he founded and led.
What constitutional glitch does this bring which i have failed to see? If there is any, President Sata using Winter Kabimba should have brought up this in the constitutional court through an injunction. What has he been waiting for if he has any constitutional grounds of disapproval? Look now what Chiluba has clouded him with. Did he forget that FJT is a talented…
The smartest thing President Sata should have done avoid entangling President Chiluba because:
(1)-He has so much of all his ministers
(2)-He is a natural orator
(3)-Talented grassroot organizer you cannot afford to cheat yourself that he is insignificant
(4)-He is not a running candidate but a dangerous front to get occupied with when the incumbent is busy canvassing the whole country for votes. It’s not a secret that MMD has launched its national campaign and George Mpombo challenging President Banda at the MMD convention is just a joker to nowhere in MMD.
(5)-President Chiluba is a protégé of President Banda with state machinery at their disposal.
(6)-The 2011 will be very costly not to get busy mobilizing the people country wide and heavy resources.
I don’t…
What are the chances that these Children could be ba Father Mpundu’s ??? just an open question because there is a lot being hiden here.:d/
We are just fed with this grade 2 man ,just because you have married a medical doctor does not mean you also educated,you chancer you’ve met your match in the name of FTJ,if you are not careful he’s the one to finish you off because he know you better than anyone else.The problem with you is that you can not see the warning signs your time is up now you are panicing.All your lies and hatred on RB have no effect on the peoples’ minds naba tendwa sana ,people want food and not lies and insults.
chiluba vs sata? eh…. see chiluba you thought you had mahtani huh? mu ka ba mukati bonse fye!
In all fairness even if you are Bemba and trying to save face of our tribes mate appa guys has been finished, Takuli efyo enga landa. pantu nga Sata niwiso, namu sebana bane, lets just admit that he has found his match. I wonder if he will ever insult anyone again after this, coz now he will think twice and calm down with those fake sources of his who have been embarassing him together with the post. Elo nga Sata ni wiso go tell him not to waste your tumbuwa money on nonsense ka, let him save that money for old age home coz that is where he is going after this forget about plot one. Its a dream God has not put in his path. If your are trully pact supporters you may have hope in that one they call Tonga chicken. But do you think Tonga chicken can withstand political pressure from RB and win
I wonder when is so called Father Bwalya of Kitwe will say on this immoral case of Sata.By the way if Winter Kabimba is sata’s nephew and Petronella sister to Bishop Mpundu ,definetly Father must be related to some one either sata of Mpundu ,.This been the case these outspoken chaps are fighting a family cause not a national one hence sata will never rule Zambia in this age,forget bonse you are wasting your time,he has no national agenda but a family one to fulfill among them employment for his family members,presidential pension and immunity,and lastly a state funeral.Ver selfish bakaponya and thelike will be hanging around at the state house fence waiting for jobs in the foreign service and ZNBC.
Has anyone noticed that Chiluba did not mention the Post Newspaper in his press conference,he avoided at all cost meanwhile they are the ones who have been calling him a THIEF and grabbing Mwanza’s wife,he can handle Sata but surely scared of the POST
Hopeless old man!! what do you still want? retire eh! you have plundered zambian resources and abused the zambian people all your political career.abash uneducated nonsense. chipuba iwe
This muntu should be antiquated really. His VOA interview really reinforced my view that he is a joker and unworthy to be at the helm of our once great nation.Don’t worry Zambia for –
“You will tread upon the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent” – Psalm 91:13
#166FTJ has dealt with the post several times in the past and he knows that they are after his throat he just cleverly avoids mentions them,too clever for Fred and S-A-T-A-N-A.
#164 True that useless old man must start renovating his house for old age disabilities and writing wills for the small children he has dotted around Lusaka and Ndola than finishing all he has paying legal bills on straight forward cases.Grade 2 iwee!
“but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.”
The price of pride and over inflated ego. has this guy ever done an honest job other than use his useless mouth to enrich himself and abuse poor zambians. it’s surely starting to come back to haunt him. His bubble has started to blow to early. Watch this space. he has surely run out of insults, blab and innuendos.What more can i say!!
#169,you are wrong,Chiluba dealt with the Post only once and he regretted, he cant even dare the post coz he knows what they can do to him,they have a much bigger dossier on him than he can even imagine,,,he knows very well not to mess with the POST
Chilubalites, Chilubaniates, Chilubanians, Chilubatiorites I believe these sentences are a fraction of how obsessed some bloggers and Chilubamedianites are obsessed with this man. Zambians seem to have short memories…to what extent will you let one human being Chiluba controll and dictate terms of a whole country 12 million people? For how many years? God help Zambia understand each human being is important and Chiluba is not their god.
Well, I hope this will teach Chiluba a lesson that in his vunerable immunityless status, he better shut the f**k up or else he will find himself in the courts, daily. If I was a member of the Kaunda, Penza, Ngenda, Kaulung’ombe, Dean Mung’omba, Paul Tembo, Nakatindi families etc, I will sue this pygmy for wrongful slaughter/detention. We all know it was at no other than his behest that these people’s lives were destroyed. If they cannot sue him, its about time they hired themselves “karavinas” to “Penza” him. That will for sure put him out of his misery once and for all.
COMEDY, EVERYDAY-ALL DAY :d/. Please lets get back to the matter at hand, MMD OUT!
# 174 You are dreaming MMD will rule again unless you want grade 2 people in power and spineless leaders like HH
May there be peace , prosperity, love, kindness and respect in all leaders. May the Zambian ones understand respect is earned and they serve their people. They are like waiters…that is what leadership is about. It is not about an I but how WE can change lives. Look at Mandela an example of a loving, forgiving selfless man. That is what one calls leadership. Christian values radiate love. One hopes the Zambian leadership will evolve and display it.
Turn Sata in for sexual rehabilitation now!
Turn Sata in for s-e-x-u-a-l rehabilitation now!
This is the beginning of the end of Sata,just wait and see wheather Fred, Mmeembe likes it or not Sata is dead and buried politically speaking just look at the trouble surrounding him ,he has insulted Chitimukulu,Mphezen,Mwata Kazembe and he can’t step a foot in Western province they do not love the man,they know him as a tribalist despite using Given Lubinda as a conduit ,he has failed lamentably .
#178 Agreed,yes,yes,yes Sata turn in for S-e-x-u-a-l rehab like yesterday voluntatrily ,overwise i’ll get a court order to detain you under the penal code of Zambia you are a threat to women’s right of movement without you looking at their butts asking for s……… favours
Nelomukotele bashikulu you are a disgrace to your family and the Bishops at Catholic Church,when is your disciplinary hearing at your church over this case of immorality?Can some twitter this case please and post it on LT
Ba Sata yakani mafunso a Chiluba afusa usatamagira ku couart how many times have u insulted chiluba
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The lowest point in Chiluba’s press conference was to bring in innocent Children Mukupa and Chilufya and also the Bishop Mpundu. When Obama was running for president, he refused to make Sara Palin’s children fair game, that to me is being noble. Those children are innocent people and so is Bishop Mpundu, whatever adulterous affair occurred between Sata and Ms Mpundu, two consenting adults. This is different from Chiluba was was married to Vera but was at the same time busy receiving the Eucarist manufactured from the blossoms of Bo Mukela Mangolwa and aMwanza’s wives. He was also busy sampling Koonga’s Eucarist at Hotel Inters. Awe sure, he should mind these logs in his eye before pointing at Sata Zondwe’s failures.
I never rated HH much as a seasoned politician,but after reading his response to chiluba’s allegations,i think he has earned my VOTE,he has acted maturely and as an intellectual,for once i thought i was listerning to Obama…BRAVO HH,someone get me a UPND card napapata
Sata was silly to attack FTJ. He more than anyone knows that FTJ has ammunition that can destroy his support base. Sata should have just kept quiet and left FTJ alone. Now he has started a fight with a person who has nothing to lose. What a dull move! All of this is because PF has no structures. It is a one man show and there are no committees that democratically decide party positions on various issues. Sata is a lose cannon! Now he is being forced to admitt how he bore kids outside wedlock for the second time. The last time, he cheated on his wife poor Mrs Sata from Lake Road School and went and married his lover, Dr. Kaseba. Now this? Is time for Sata to retire and give PF a new lease of life under a new, educated and younger leader.
For me there is nothing in Chiluba’s press conference. What I have waited from Chiluba is to apologise first to the Zambian people. The noble man May His Soul Rest in Peace. In his Will he apologised for the wrongs he may have done… No man is clean. Chiluba is the first president of Zambia to be taken to court. He had accused KK of stealing. The rest is known….Now he is talking about Sata knowing fully well that Zambians will forget all the issues and focus on Sata. There are many questions that need answers in Zambia. The turnround of those closest to our late Pres. and now heroe-worshipping Chiluba who openly boasts his a dribbler and noone can match his dribbles. People wake up!!!!
POST, SATA etc never expected this bomb. Mmembe is for sure now thinking twice because he doesnt know what dossier is there for him. Sata is indeed a disgrace and rushing to courts was simply cowardise and his think tanks are confused at the moment. Mobuto once thought he was too big only to be removed by the Tutsi’s of Rwanda because of his doings to them. Sata has triumphed on people’s progress including hijacking the party and now a midget is all over his face and very confused. MMD has shown maturity for now and lets wait and see, but HH needs to respond so that we know the truth
Sometimes the devil you know is better than an angel you dont know.Who new that FTJ would be the worsrt Zambian president of all time.Who new that Mwanawasa would be a credible president of the current era
These who are blogging from Zambian Missions…they are using tax payers resources….av hv noticed UK,US RSA and TZ..among them Senoir *****.
The whole MMD is only conerned with enriching themselves.Look at what Munkombwe is barking at.Look at the legal system and even senior lawyers such as Sangwa and Simeza.The whole thing stinks.Lack of integrity everywhere in Zambia
King Cobra,spit it out kabili.Just answer the key questions & leave the lawyers out of it.its so simple,weya u a constable of the imperialists or a freedom fighter (infact FTJ is ryt,u’ve neva bin mentioned as a freedom fighter alongside bene Wina,chona,nkumbulaz & them,u’ve neva even been honored as one by any of the president(s),past & present) & y weya u dismissed, & secondly who is that woman? king cobra,u liv in a glass house,so y throw stones?
As long as MMD doesnt retain the trophy for plundering state resources again i will be happy.Atleast lets give another thief a chance
To be hornest, chiluba is the act of desperation to go too personal like that and to all bloger there certain issues which sale in our society but with the issue of men with multiple kids i dont think so, look at Zuma still a president and having kids with defferent women, Chiluba himself he was a president when he started going ou with a married women and he was not even impeached. to the real zambian men they know what it is about that. All our presidents they have kids with different women because our prents it was normal for such a thing and in the end Chiluba has finished himself for not even his minion right now can trust him. The best this little man can do is to keep quiet for he has done a lot of pain to the people of Zambia.
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Senior Citizen says:
February 22, 2010 at 3:10 pmDoes eceive the Eucharist after fathering 5 children with the first wife, then Kaseba and now Petronela Mpundu sister of His most outspokenn Mpika Bishop- AT LEAST SATA DOES NOT SLEEP WITH CHILDREN. DO YOU KNOW THAT REGINA’S MOTHER MRS C IS YOUNGER THAN CHILUBA?
67 MMD Chief Bootlicker greetings. On your “#57 Maestro, when is your leader HH throwing his hat into the ring? Has he decided to play chicken. I think from a biblical point of view, if you know the truth and look away when injustice is being committed, you are guilty of sin of omission.” has amicably responded to Mr Chiluba FTJ, MPhil, outbursts on him expressed in today’s POST Newspaper in a mature manner.
In all fairness, president HH was never called as a witness in Mr Chiluba FTJ’s criminal court problems to testify at any of the Courts of Law. My take is that president HH would have committed contempt of court had he issued any data that he knew about USD12m while the Chiluba as a thief case was in court.
Have a blessed day all.
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Matt 6:33 But seek…
I believe Mr Chiluba FTJ, Mphi, Hon Doc (Malawi), did a good job on releasing nice questions for Mr PF leader Sata MC. This is because Zambians need to know the character of persons who intend to lead them at the highest office of the land.
To this end, let Mr Sata MC simply answer the questions Mr FTJ Chiluba issued so that wa as Zambians can all know the whole truth about Mr Sata’s life style. This is why I am in support of president HH’s comment reported in the POST Newspaper of today that Mr Sata should be able to respond nicely to those querries that Mr Chiluba FTJ produced.
Mr Chiluba FTJ should tell the Nation more on that dossier he claims to possess on Mr Sata’s conduct while in various positions of GRZ. Otherwise, chief Justice may not help come nomination day…
You, Sata’s supporters just help him respond to Chiluba’s revelations. Don’t hide behind suing and your now archaic repeats of Chiluba being a thief- Chiluba was cleared.
The thief is actually Sata who tried to sneak out of South Africa with thousanda of dollars cash.
#198, be serious. You mean Regina is a child? Is Ms. Mpundu older than Regina? I doubt it very much unless you know something we don’t.
On your marks, get set,GO…bola yapena nomba pa Zed..FJT KAFUPI abalamuna impashi, nokumububa shalamububa…NALEKA!!!!
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Senior Zilole = Regina was born in 1965 and FTJ between 1940 and 1942. There you are decide what suits your question.
we are fed up of pipo fighting over silly things..why can’t we let them fight in a ring and see who the champion is?
I don’t like FJT because most of the problems Zed is going thru now it’s because of him but MS and HH have been wasting time talking about RB and FJT relationship. Start going round the country and tell the people why the pact is better than MMD. FJT knows a lot about MS than most people think.
Chiluba was certainly annoyed when Sata said “Chiluba has many enemies especially in Ndola where he grabbed another man’s wife” I feel this statement did not go well with Chiluba. It is a fact that Chiluba grabbed Regina from Mwanza. And he tells us with a bent face that Regina and Mwanza were divorced! Shameful. The records even in the cases RB has helped to be acquitted show how Chiluba sent Regina abroad and sending her money. What marriage would last with such evidence. Just repent Chiluba and then ask others to repent also lest they die in sin. Or put it this way, Chiluba might brag how legal his marriage was. He caused the divorce, which is acceptable on infidelity/adultery ground, and he goes to marry his adulterated woman.
Chiluba was certainly annoyed when Sata said “Chiluba has many enemies especially in Ndola where he grabbed another man’s wife” I feel this statement did not go well with Chiluba. It is a fact that Chiluba grabbed Regina from Mwanza. And he tells us with a bent face that Regina and Mwanza were divorced! Shameful. The records even in the cases RB has helped to be acquitted show how Chiluba sent Regina abroad and sending her money. What marriage would last with such evidence. Just repent Chiluba and then ask others to repent also lest they die in sin. Or put it this way, Chiluba might brag how legal his marriage was. He caused the divorce, which is acceptable on infidelity/adultery ground, and he goes to marry his adulterated woman.:o
Sata. “Forgive me Father, I have sinned.”
Mpundu. “What have you done my son.”
Sata. “I slept with your sister.”
Mpundu. “My sisters are celibate”
Sata. “Iyo, I am not talking about Betty”
Mpundu. “Nomine Patri…”
Sata. “Father, I am not g.a.y… not Patrick!”
Mpundu. “What are you talking about my son?”
Sata. “Petronella”
Mpundu. “Ah! Amor et vitae essentia” (Love is the essence of life)
“Go in peace my son. You have my blessing”
So for you PF cadres it does not matter whether Sata turned up with ilombas in both hands with his horns visible for all to see, you would still support him! You are really dumb. Here is a guy babbling what he and only his fellow devils can understand, his cadres defend him with elated and zombie like behavior. What a loss, what wasted breathe!
Pabwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
#200, iyo ine!!!! “Napya ehhhh”!
Umutwe we lyashi ni “MMD ZWAAAAAAAAAAAAA in 2011… no deviation to this cause. VIVA PACT!!!
Sata has lived, preached and embodied politics of insults, abuse and hatred and deserves all that FTJ has given him for such is what he knows as politics. Hitler, Mussolini,Stalin, Amin and Sata are in the same league. We cannot afford to be led by a man(monster) like him.Petronella’s husband/boyfreind is not even market inspector material even if you appointed him a traffic warden he would not be able to master those little hand held computers they use. How can we trust him to lead a complex entreprise like a nation state. Granted the chaps we’ve had have their weaknesses but Satan tips the scales of disaster waiting to happen. We as zambians should encourage honest, mature, civilised and well educated people to run for office but it is because we entertain anything that comes with…
money that we end up with mediocre leadership at all levels of governance. We need a revolutionary scrutiny and audit of all leaders(political,civic and spiritual). we need to subject both opposition and govt leaders to thorough tests and raise the benchmark if we are to go anywhere but it has to start with us what do we really want? it cannot really be sata. we still have some time for credible leadership to come up. Let us not entertain evil men and build their egos unnecessarily.
Can someone tell me please how old is RB’s wife? Rb i guess is also in the same boat like them Chiluba, Sata, Mwanawasa, Bishop Mambo just to mention a few- help me guys how old is she?Thadiwe? and what tribe is she since RB said Lukundo and her wife come from same village?
Take Sata in for s-e-x rehabilitation. He needs to be confined for months in a restricted s-e-x therapy facility.
Zedians, please wake up! Why should you be misled by this criminal called Sata who at his age still smokes marijuana. Character and Integrity is required for one to be a president and Sata, the mbanje smoker, ruffian, thug and adulterer does not pass the test. Please let us be sensible for once!
#216. You think FTJ is a saint? This man caused a lot of misery in many families due to his vengeful tendencies. Ask one former woman MP what he did to her just for greeting Benjamin Mwila at the time Mr. Mwila formed RP. The woman was kicked out of MMD and subsquently lost her seat and income.
PF cadres,your Sata is a joke! Don’t just scream “Pabwato!”Tell us what this creature will do if elected President.All I know is that he is probably doing rock and roll in that boat!
I total agree with Sata .he is in the right track of suing FJT Chiluba.Otherwise FTJ is peronalising isues too much.Let him just concentrate on his personnal life and problems.
He must not throw to much stone too much people like Sata and HH .These two poeple have got a lot of followers who would want them to be in state house and solve national problems for there poeple .FTJ’s time is long gone so let him be very silent or form an NGO like the GREAT KK.
I total agree with you Mwenda Njangula #206.Ufalile mwa koma yalilangu .Kwisu .
Pipo, both guys (SATA and CHILUBA) have serious questions to answer:
For Chiluba: Carrington Maize; Arms deal; source of the $8m in Zamtrop; the London court findings and judgement; the sale of Luanshya and other mines on C/belt; sale of parastatals; dealing in DRC uranium; unexplained deaths/killings of politicians Paul Tembo, Ngenda, Wezi Kaunda, Penza, etc, etc…
For Sata: Housing Project Unit funds at LUDC; unfinished Merzaf houses and flats in Chilenje; Avondale Housing scheme; missing Vitenges which led to his dismissal from the Northern Rhodesia Police Force; the smashing of skulls of Kanyama residents; the demolition of shanty compounds in Lusaka when he was District Governor (which earned him the title of SATANA), Chiluba’s third term attempt, etc, etc, WILL THE TWO TELL US?
FTJ well done. It does not pay much to be too quite. Kuti bamingilila. Just prepare your docs properly. You have been called names pa mfula. Viva FTJ, we are behind you nangu ifilwani fifule shani.
Is it true that Sata is praising Mugabe and is being compared to him? Sata’s people are visiting the US this week and we’re concerned about him meeting with government officials. Does anyone know how the US feels about him? Are we stepping into crap here?