FORMER president Frederick Chiluba raised a number of issues about the moral conduct and leadership qualities of Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michel Sata and United Party for National Development (UPND) leader Hakainde Hichilema which must exercise the minds of many Zambians.
As Mr Hichilema observed (Post Newspaper) “I am assuming that Mr Sata will respond to those many, many issues … because it is important that he responds to these matters.”
It is significant to note that what Dr Chiluba raised were not accusations, but issues that require explanations.
They are not matters that can simply be wished away by saying the former president is a trickster or be dismissed as revival of long forgotten history – true or distorted.
They are matters that have a bearing on the choices people will be asked to make in the forthcoming presidential and general elections.
In his Press conference at his home in Kabulonga on Sunday Dr Chiluba questioned the morality of Mr Sata in passing moral judgment on others and challenged him to explain his relationship with a Ndola woman.
On Mr Sata’s marital status, the public wants to know if it is true that he has two wives although, according to The Post newspaper (February 22) he denies being a polygamist. He did not comment on his relationship and the two children allegedly sired with the Ndola woman Dr Chiluba referred to.
Those who know that he divorced his first wife to marry the one he lives with now would like to know if it is true that there is a third woman in his life.
Further, in view of the overt hostility exhibited against the MMD and President Rupiah Banda by some priests in the Roman Catholic Church, many wonder if this is because the woman in question is a biological sister of one of their bishops. It is important that this is explained as some people may be forced to speculate.
In respect of Mr Hichilema, Dr Chiluba wondered what morals he had if he could conceal the truth when a Zambian is wrongfully accused.
The public would thus like to know if Mr Hichilema was a senior official of Grant Thornton when the firm was appointed receiver of Luanshya Mine’s Ramcoz. Mr Hichilema has to explain what he knew about the payment of US$12 million referred to and why he did not tell his firm to state the truth as stated by Dr Chiluba.
This is the only way he can allay fears that his former company or himself may have been undeserving beneficiaries of the money. Since he seeks to be president of Zambia the issue is about why Zambians should entrust their lives on him as president if he does not have moral courage to say the truth when a citizen is wrongfully accused.
[Times of Zambia]
Let Chiluba answer questions first.
Questions have been raised for 8 years yet he still will not answer them.
Where did the so called $8 million come from when the ex president only earned $10,000 a year.
Let him declare who gave it to him and when.
He even spent more on clothes than what he earned from you tax payers.
Answers need to be done by Chiluba first.
This article is trash and full of hearsay. Chiluba stole and lets not be diverted from that line. We have read of the London court Judgement please MMD register it. You wont divert our attention now and do an illegal aquital.
Chiluba has several children and married several times and was S.E.X.I.N.G Regina at state house, you choose to ignore the info but peddle rumours and give them prominence on your LT web page on HH and Sata. The Pact is winning wether you acuse them of polygamy or not.
Chiluba made Zambia lose $20m in an arms deal. He and Crooked BY Mwila as defence minister then placed an order with Katoto of Congo to supply the arms, up to date the arms never came.
Chiluba was involved in the Carlington maize scam up to now the maize never came.
Chiluba has been found wanting, to have solen money by the London judgement up to now he is yet to pay back.
Chiluba is not a hero but a conman who enriched self at our expense. No amount of rehabilitaion will make him clean. He is a small crooked man as K.K once said.
leave HH alone clearly you can’t smear mud on him. This is visible and simply means you will have a tough time de-campaigning him on issues like theft. Look for something else you tire bootlickers without remorse for executing innocent Zambians. The MMD govt is one of the biggest killers of Zambians other than HIV and malaria.
HH 2011
LT sinks to Times newspaper low levels of journalism.
Viva Pact!
A BOOM WAS UNLEASHED, SATA-HH PACT WILL NEVER RECOVER, THEY HAVE BEEN THRUST IN A DUST BIN OF POLITICAL HISTORY.I PERSONALLY CANNOT VOTE FOR SUCH LEADERS, I WOULD RATHER STICK WITH THE DEVIL I KNOW THAN THE ANGEL I DONT!
Chiluba is really becoming petty….This is now becoming a boring story.
Mwebantu please!!!! None of us are interested in this business of ‘ninani uwale t o m b a nani’ Let bedroom stories stay were they are supposed to be. In the bedroom, period!
What we need is quality leadership, someone who can move the counrty forward. Not ifya malabishi ifi…Atase! nensoni tamukwete! 😮
Everytime I see someone trying to do something, I always ask myself “What is the end game?”. With all due respect, what do you think Chiluba, Sata, HH, or anybody else want to see by the time they go to their grave? which is not long from now. Matter of fact, what do you want to see? Most of you monkeys are sheltered in someone else’s country and trying to pass judgement on us. What do we want to see? A cop? a fraudulent accountant? a bus conductor? a zim bred inbreed? what is the END GAME? Bank account that!
Chiluba has been dealt with by the defunct taskforce and the London court judgememt is still pending in the Zambian courts. The taskforce spent years and tax payers money investigating Chiluba on the many charges worth millions of dollars which Levy raised in parliament. All that the taskforce came up with was prosecuting Chiluba on theft of US$500,000, and they botched up even this case. So the issue in this saga is not Chiluba. The issue here, as the Times of Zambia correctly puts it whether we like it or not, is that Sata has feigned decency and accused others of being immoral. Living in a glass house and throwing stones at others as they say. This is what we want Sata as a presidential aspirant to explain. Voters deserve to know.
Why all of a sudden Chiluba aka “The Bally” is back on te political platform. I smell a fish!
LT is a sister company of TIMES OF ZAMBIA,
this issue is so petty,i beleive the only leader who can stand on a moral platform and blow a whistle is KK,more over,logically speaking,Sata is taking this issue to court,so anyone who wants answers should wait for the court procession,im sure its open to the public
Where are all these personal attacks taking Zedian development. Why can’t we emulate RB who is busy working for the Zambian people whilst others are busy struggling to get into Plot 1 in 2011.
God will give us a clean man in 2011 not selfish motivated people
Let Chiluba answer why he refused a DNA test with the man who claimed to be his dad Mr Chabala Kafupi from Kasenga DRC
Sata talks a lot and now let others talk, true leaders don’t just talk anyhow. I think he should answer these questions.
Moral revealations on public persons seeking leadership of a nation are serious issues which should not be treated with kids cloves. In mature democracies, such leaders would have said, am sorry and i hereby resign. Doing that is what i would high level thinking and wanna respect such a person. The problem our cheap politicians have is that they take advantage of the political status and forget that their immorality actions will be subject to public discussion once revealed. Lets us not protect what is unAfrican of our leaders cos doing so the vice will be considered normal by the growing youths who we say are our future leaders. The revealation by FTJ are not treachery act but that Sata had said the same on others and FTJ is a victim of attack. Sata started it and the race goes on.
#10 Ba Kunda, which male Zambian has children from one woman only. Chiluba’s attacks were so petty that even his friends were embarrassed. FTJ should have talked only about Sata’s political misdeeds not on marital status. Even KK inspite of his impecable statesmanship has children from other women apart from our mum ba Betty.Only a hen pecked Zambian man can have no girlfriends.Politically, FTJ knows that what ever he says about Sata will also implicate FTJ so he chose a “safe” topic.
LT we can see you re also an MMD cadre. What ever you publish we should now take with a pitnch of salt. I think you should also put an item whereby if 5 people dont like your article, you should IMMEDIATELY REMOVE THAT ARTICLE. We see how many articles you will remain with especially the MMD propaganda. Bloggers read to day’s post on SATA’s response to FTJ’s accusations. Also read Given Lubinda’s comments and judge for yourselves. By the way Shikas and Mukombwe were found sleeping on duty. That is what the MMD represents. George kunda is a sick man. Read his LIPS. BLOGGERS COMPARE WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW WITH LIFE IN ZAMBIA, and be true to yourselves. We cant keep on wallowing in povert. GRZ gives councils 600million to repair roads, how many kilometers can be covered by that amount?…
LT why are you putting up such stories and the grammer is rubbish!!
This man called kafupi is a short lier a trickster a confuser of people a distractor a thief,and this is tha definition of a devil, he comes to still and destroy. he is retired why cant he sit to enjoy his stolen money.he has failed to be quite becoz he is being haulted by the many things he has robbed from the pipo of zambia
Lt naimwe, copy and paste everyday? when are you going to stand on your two feet? talking about Chiluba, this man is so crafty,craftier than the snake which deceived Eve in the bible. But one day he will be answerable to the highest and more fair Jugde, God!
#6 – ZAMBIATTA!!! shame on you! Remember that your MMD has lifted the ‘ban’ on threatening violence so if you ever show your face in Zambia, I will personally cut your head off!!!
How can you suggestthat we continue with sucn an insensitive government?
We chipuba!
No amount of diversionary tactics emanating from one Frederick Titus Jacob Mpundu Chiluba will make Zambians lose focus of what is required to be done in 2011 and that is to usher in a new Government under the unstopabble Pact. The writing is on the wall.
those of you who were there shortly after he became president , you saw how he exposed KK how he disgraced him, the old man had no pride in the nation he led. but having realised he had wronged the pipo of zambia in a way, he resigned from politics, he led a quiet life , he never responded to any of his allegation even when he was arrested on Xmas day. until Levy clothed him with a garment as 1st republican president , the man was no respected by his predecesor.
SHAME On you FTJ Shame on all the pipo who are supporting you, may they die anf rot with you, may there names be blotted out of the next generation ,your children will never find favour in the eyes of man your wife a widow and no one extend mercy to her may all those who shied your wrongs be swept from this generation .
Give answers please. Are the girls in Ndola yours? Did you report fellow blacks to the collonial masters? A Kamucheka? How did you find yourself in the UK? Was it a pay back by the bazunguzi? Ba MCS, to me these are not qusetions that warranty a court appearance. Dont run away fromthe the truth MCS, just face reality.
HH, yours is abit smart. It is the company that you work for that received the $12M. You were only capable of speaking out if the court/taskforce called on you as a co-accused or witness. You are not answerable to FTJ. HH, keep quite and let these 2 immoral guys fight it out themselves. HH, kindly join RB in MMD and form that alliance and be VEEP after Kunda is been dropped.MMD-UPND alliance will be the best for Zambia and this is the most workable solution for Zambia
Fellow bloggers,Given Lubinda has raised very pertinent points and questions that Chiluba should respond to.For me,it’s not just Sata,HH or Chiluba,even our old man KK was mute when Sata challenged him to state why on more than one occassion he had fired Rupiah.Why has the old man held Zambians to ransom over this.I’m not saying he shouldn’t support RB,he can,but he needs to give us the data and then we judge RB fairly based on that data.What if he fired him for stealing and then we have a thief at plot 1.Maybe,we don’t even need to RB,Sata or HH to stand coz they aint clean,maybe we can look for a suitable third candidate.
FTJ and your followers May your names be written on the sea side sand so that when the winds come they shall blow them away and never to be remembered on the face on the earth.let justice reign
The POST a couple of years ago posed a question regarding how HH aquired the house he occupies now, how did he get it. This question, to date, is not answered. We are looking for a clean leader. SATA has been fixed, let him respond quickly.
Guys when you look at these people there are all the same, this is recycled material unip,mmd and the pact , some when you check you will find that there have been once members of all the political party s which are in the country .People of Zambia i age you to be very careful cause we have become a laughing stock to the rest of the world.
Mpongwe MMD backs RB
THE MMD in Mpongwe has endorsed President Rupiah Banda as the party’s sole candidate in the 2011 presidential elections. The delegates to the Mpongwe MMD Constituency conference resolved that they would back President Banda’s candidature at the party convention and during the 2011 presidential elections. Constituency chairperson, Andrew Banda said the party members in the district had realised that there was no better candidate suitable to lead the ruling party to victory than President Banda.The conference unanimously resolved to back President Banda. “The MMD in Mpongwe is intact and without any divisions, we are sure that the party will emerge victorious,” he said.
WISDOM, your name suggests that you are wise. If you are, you will change the subject immediately because NORMAL Zambians know that FTJ sold all houses, including the one HH stays in, next to FTJ on the same street.
Are you suggesting that he stole it from somewhere and went to plant it along that street or that he is too poor to own a house next to FTJ?
What’s your point here?
Embattled and exposed Sata not credible — Mumbi, Chimumbwa (Qfm)
TWO former Patriotic Front (PF) secretaries-general have said their former party leader Michael Sata does not have the credibility to contest the Republican presidency and they are ready to testify that the PF leader had fathered two children out of his matrimonial home.
Edward Mumbi and Charles Chimumbwa yesterday said that they were ready to testify and prove that Mr Sata had fathered two children out of his matrimonial home.
Mr Mumbi also reiterated that he would petition any attempt by Mr Sata to contest the Republican presidency.
But Mr Sata wondered in which capacity Mr Mumbi would petition his presidential candidature, saying it was because of poverty that he was making such unattainable manoeuvres.
Mr Chimumbwa said in an interview yesterday that he met Mr Sata’s two daughters based in Ndola when he was still party secretary general.
“I challenge Mr Sata to come and deny this fact in my face,” he said.
He said it was unfortunate that Mr Sata could go to an extent of denying his children when facts were plain and could be proven if he insisted on denying them.
He said he was convinced that with the background he had and the revelations made by former president Frederick Chiluba recently, Mr Sata was not suitable to be president.
And Mr Mumbi said he also worked closely with Mr Sata as his secretary general in PF and dared to reveal more reasons why the opposition leader should not attempt to contest the Republican presidency.
He challenged Mr Sata to refute allegations that he faced some disciplinary cases before leaving the police force.
Mr Mumbi said in 1998, when Mr Sata was MMD national secretary, three national executive committee (NEC) members wrote a letter challenging him to explain how he left the police force and he failed to do so.
I would not urinate on Chiluba even if he was on fire. I would let him burn in his own juices…
He said even the current deputy national chairperson of the PF had in 1998 questioned Mr Sata’s character as a national leader after realising that the PF leader had plans to work against him and others from Mpika District.
“Mr Sata failed to deny those allegations by three NEC members todate,” Mr Mumbi said.
The letter to Mr Sata dated October 20,1998 and signed by Mr Mukupa, the then chairperson for commerce and industry, Newton Ng’uni and the then provincial secretary for Northern Province, Bernard Mpundu, stated that the PF president had planned to work against them.
The letter, captioned ‘Your Plans to Eliminate Us’, was also copied to then party and Republican president Dr Chiluba, all Members of Parliament and all NEC members.
The letter, captioned ‘Your Plans to Eliminate Us’, was also copied to then party and Republican president Dr Chiluba, all Members of Parliament and all NEC members.
Mr Mumbi also accused Mr Sata of having misconducted himself when he was minister of Local Government and Housing in 1992 by transferring K1.2 billion received from the Ministry of Finance into a 45-day special investment account that was opened at one of the commercial banks contrary to regulations.
He said the matter was investigated by the Anti-Corruption Commission.
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how could FTJ – a good speaker and eloquent orator stoop and sink that low? How could FTJ deliver a speech devoid of truth and objectivity; a speech remote from wisdom; and more so, a speech that is socio-economically and politically useless? Yes, this is what happens when one reaches a dead end. Fair to say that FTJ has reached a point of diminishing returns to be deemed politically impotent and strategically stale.
AS at now the pact has being brought DOWN ..chiluba has shaken the pact..ha :)..thats the fact…this artical contains the REAL situetion..FTJ the champion of zambian politics..one would wonder why chiluba did not put sata but put mwanawasa ??? SATA was the center of 3 rd term..but did not put SATA..WE ARE HERE ON THE BLOG WAISTING TIME ..RB WILL WIN ELECTION ..
Its is unfortunate that the former head of state is shameless…bickering over senseless issues…these are diversionary tacts so that the public that wants change does not focus on that change. Bringing into question the quality of leadership Sata and HH have to offer is lame. What Chiluba should know is that in life you reap what you sow…sooner than later all of Chiluba’s secrets will be out in the open…remember how he exposed KK over the issue of Tunnels and other vices of mismanagement…in the same way Chiluba’s nemesis will haunt him…we know God has mercy but even He will not strive with man forever…Chiluba should keep quiet and save his own soul!!!!! [-(
HH was seen in livingstone on saturday chairing a Sun Hotel meeting as board chairperson. HH is responsible for privatizing the former Intercontinental hotel to sun hotel. He is now is B/chairman Whatever firm he sold, HH later became its chairman. HH got the US12million. Let HH explain the selling of Inters in Lusaka to Marasa. Inters was supposed to be sold Stock and stock. Everything changed overnight after HH went to kenya to meet Marasa. Zambians be careful with Sata and HH, their stories leaves much questions than answers. By the way what is HH connection with the free masonry. Ignorant diasporian be careful what u read and hear. Mark 4: 24
Hey people of God given to Zambia by God..Lets focus on the issues not personal attacks, The worst senarior case is with Chiluba..Kindly stop confusing things you have oready done enough harm why do you want to continue this confusion?wait for the time God will deal with you’its just time’ remember please People want answers.
Sata your marital status doesnt look Good,,,Clear the air but you have no obligation for such.But as an aspirant let people know the truth for decision making purpose’ Not at the expense of Countries development’
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#24 stop lying about KK. What quiet are talking about. KK never kept quiet. No wonder they shut up with some law. As for KK don’t even bring that up. KK did more harm to this Country. He is the reason we are still suffering and it will have to take a visionary leader like Sata to get us ot of this circus. KK killed people, ran the economy down etc. By the time he was booted out this Country was down. We are just trying to pick up and you start mourning about KK. Shame. I bet you were not yet born when we were suffering under KK rule. Read some history and see his brutality and dictatorship which we sufferded under him
Mwata#30, that is RB’s brother talking good of his kin. Ask the Lambas and Lenjes what they think about RB and you will get the true picture.
PF CADRES ARE IN SERIOUS PAIN, THEIR LEADER UNDERPANTS HAVE BEEN TORN OPEN IN PUBLIC,
ALL of us know very well that SATA started this GAME. FOR PF CADRES or indeed SLAVES LEAVING ABROAD they enjoy SATA INSULTING, i mean INSULTING everybody including RB.
DR CHILUBA has more on SATA and HH the reason SATA went TO COURT HOPING THAT ITLL KEEP HIM QUITE. please LET CHILUBA OPEN HIS MOUTH, INFACT WIDER THAN THIS. If HE IS CLEAN then HE SHOULD NOT WORRY. freedom of SPEACH
SATA HAS TOO MANY DISCIPLES WHO ARE READY TO SIN WITH HIM,
This thief Chiluba has gone too far. That is why Sata is suing so Chiluba can adduce evidence that Sata is married to two women. Sata is much smarter than Chiluba. Chiluba has realised that he boobed when he raised issued with little information.
AS at now the pact has being brought DOWN ..chiluba has shaken the pact..ha ..thats the fact…this artical contains the REAL situetion..FTJ the champion of zambian politics..one would wonder why chiluba did not put sata but put mwanawasa ??? SATA was the center of 3 rd term..but did not put SATA..WE ARE HERE ON THE BLOG WAISTING TIME ..RB WILL WIN
PF CADRES ARE IN SERIOUS PAIN, THEIR LEADER UNDERPANTS HAVE BEEN TORN OPEN IN PUBLIC,
ALL of us know very well that SATA started this GAME. FOR PF CADRES or indeed SLAVES LEAVING ABROAD they enjoy SATA INSULTING, i mean INSULTING everybody including RB.
DR CHILUBA has more on SATA and HH the reason SATA went TO COURT HOPING THAT ITLL KEEP HIM QUITE. please LET CHILUBA OPEN HIS MOUTH, INFACT WIDER THAN THIS. If HE IS CLEAN then HE SHOULD NOT WORRY. freedom of SPEECH
SATA HAS TOO MANY DISCIPLES WHO ARE READY TO SIN WITH HIM,
[-( No way, Ba kafupi FTJ, your voice now is to advise the government on how to start improving the living standards of Zambians or come up with an organization to support/help the street kids. You know that the NGO’s will not trust you with money due to Nchekelako thing of yours. Stop attacking the potential candidates like Mr. HH and the additional Mr. Sata. We are interested to know national matters not personal things of how many girls you have had before Regina or the first wife to Mr Sata…. those are stories for the youths:-w[-( whose going to rum the city tonight??? Pact:)>-
The beauty of the blog is that it exposes the ignorance of most of you, especially those in the diaspora. Kindly research before you make your educated contributions.
Kind advice.
Chiuba charges: Can we have answers? : close to 49 comments and counting
ZESCO commissions a $4.4m transformer: A lousy 4 comments.
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How is Zambia supposed to develop when people are so concerned about who Sata insulted instead of things that actually do have a direct effect on the economy and their lives like the commissioning of a transformer by ZESCO.
And yet people will sing praises for a politician who makes headlines insulting and defaming his opponents as opposed to someone who is discussing development with the World Bank and investors from the UAE, China etc.
Makes you wonder.
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#22….Insults does not belong to the new breed of zambians. What you read here is just pipos opinions, you are free to air your opinion. Its only SHOWS HOW RETROGRESEED YOU ARE! Grow up man, that why you are still struggling in life!, have a life man.
#22….Insults does not belong to the new breed of zambians. What you read here is just pipos opinions, you are free to air your opinion. Its only SHOWS HOW RETROGRESEED YOU ARE! Grow up man, that why you are still struggling in life!, have a life man.you cannot blame anyone where you are now in life, pick up yo socks and find yo way!
Mr. “Capitalist,” I was simply stating facts on that thread.
I am glad that Mr Chiluba FTJ has intensified the campaign for UPND president HH while he has again dribbled Mr PF Sata MC once gain after the dribbling in 2001 &nd 2006 elections.
Have a blessed day all.
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Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.
Check out one BLOGGER posting many articles, just to show that MMD supporters are many. Feel sorry for you evil doers. You do the same even when you rig elections. JUDGEMENT DAY IS HERE. THE CLOAK HAS STOPPED TICKING :((:o:((
#25 – I think that is a good idea though I do not totally agree with you. MMD does not need PACT because it is not a selfish party. Pacts come about because two people are eying the same sit and normally it does not work very well because of greediness. Can someone tell me where PACT had worked in Africa? MMD forever!
This is pettiness of the highest order, how many of us here have children with women who are not our wives? Sata has children with a single woman unlike great KAFUPI who grabbed a woman from a rather sleepy Mr Mwanza, this is not news because we’ve always known that Sata has children from other women besides Dr Kaseba. FTJ allaged that Sata got a sack from federal police because of petty theft but forgot that he’s the father of all thieves and married to a convicted thief. So there are no questions that require answers from Sata / HH
To think that we’ve been reduced to discussing Sata and FTJ’s immorality is so painful. These guys worked together to try and defraud the nation with 3rd term bid for FTJ. Do you remember the interviews were Sata refused all reason? And after he saw that there was no chance, he went ahead and squeezed out whoever wanted to contest the MMD presidency in hope that he’d ascend to the apex of MMD leadership. All he wants is power and he’s shown how he would capably abuse it. Chiluba and Sata should shut up. Let young, new leaders like HH, Mutati and the like come up. Let’s do away with recycled politicians like cycle mata, nyama soya and the like.
Surprised this article is headline? Cut and paste from the sister paper by the dim Maestro hehehe/Nine Chale?
#57. Im not calling for MMD-UPNd pact, my call is for any alliance. Look at the ANC, what are the alliances involved in forming Government in RSA? COSATU ++++ others, but they remain independent bodies. HH has got some workable adeas though he has abandoned most which Mazoka put in place. He therefore needs RB who is a better guy. MMD true blue and vividly for RB
Leaders must be examples to the societies we live in. John Terry, Jacob Zuma, Tiger Woods, Ashely Cole etc are not good examples because they have engaged in sex outside marriage. Sata has children outside marriage and that is wrong and he must apologise to the nation, that is a price for wanting to be head of state. As for Sata wroking against the freedon fighters in the colonial days, that reflects betrayal and I am sure that is why HH is saying Sata has to respond to many many issues raised by Chiluba.
RB kuya Bebele..No tricks will work for them this time. the PACT just hold the fort. Change is inevitable
In law they say, ‘It goes to character, your honour.’ Going by how Sata has responded so far, it is clear that the cobra’s head has been bruised. He has slithered away into the darkness of the shadows. I suspect that he is waiting for Kabimba to come to his aid. Kabimba is in Cuba.
I can actually see things working well for HH. Let Sata keep on answering the many many issues raised by FTJ and let them keep bickering. UPND-PF pact will do well with HH as leader. We need new blood.
#64 Learn to read widely. Kabimba responded within 24hrs of the the midgets press conference. He said the short man should be grateful to RB. If Levy was still alive he would have been in jail by now. Now jog on you mug!
What surprises me is that Sata has been able to respond to any question from anybody. I heard him on the radio last time in 2008-2009. But just answering a Yes or No on whether he is a polygamist, to call a Lawyer! Ni mpapa sana
Mr Chimumbwa said in an interview yesterday that he met Mr Sata’s two daughters based in Ndola when he was still party secretary general.
“I challenge Mr Sata to come and deny this fact in my face,” he said.
He said it was unfortunate that Mr Sata could go to an extent of denying his children when facts were plain and could be proven if he insisted on denying them.
He said he was convinced that with the background he had and the revelations made by former president Frederick Chiluba recently, Mr Sata was not suitable to be president.
TWO former Patriotic Front (PF) secretaries-general have said their former party leader Michael Sata does not have the credibility to contest the Republican presidency and they are ready to testify that the PF leader had fathered two children out of his matrimonial home.
Edward Mumbi and Charles Chimumbwa yesterday said that they were ready to testify and prove that Mr Sata had fathered two children out of his matrimonial home.
Mr Mumbi also reiterated that he would petition any attempt by Mr Sata to contest the Republican presidency.
but kabimba did not categorically deny his relationship with sata, he just said people know his mother and father. but a nephew can come through marriage. kabimba must state is he or is he not sata’s nephew?
Mr Chimumbwa said in an interview yesterday that he met Mr Sata’s two daughters based in Ndola when he was still party secretary general.
“I challenge Mr Sata to come and deny this fact in my face,” he said.
He said it was unfortunate that Mr Sata could go to an extent of denying his children when facts were plain and could be proven if he insisted on denying them.
He said he was convinced that with the background he had and the revelations made by former president Frederick Chiluba recently, Mr Sata was not suitable to be president.
I just like “Mr Mumbi also accused Mr Sata of having misconducted himself when he was minister of Local Government and Housing in 1992 by transferring K1.2 billion received from the Ministry of Finance into a 45-day special investment account that was opened at one of the commercial banks contrary to regulations” reported by the Times of Zambia of today and need to know the truth of this matter.
If what Mr former PF Secretary General E. Mumbi has revealed is the truth, then let the Chief Justice on Presidential candidate nomination day( should Mr Sata try to put forth his name on those to be eleceted President) make sure that Mr PF Sata MC does not qualify to be elected as Zambian President on criminal case matter.
Have a nice day all.
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Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the…
😉 Kafupi never ceases to amaze me he was acquited of all his crimes by Bwezani now this campainging for him is pay back time. wonder where he gets the energy from. we need development and not bedroom issues here. twachula pafula
The Times – shame on you!
The speech by Chiluba was a disgrace! How can you be asking for answers from Sata when FTJ himself has more questions to answer? His morality is questionable as he grabbed another man’s wife; he still has not been cleared of ‘theft’ allegations – a London court found him guilty, he is lip appeasingt miners on the C/belt who are in dire straits because of FTJ’s selfishness . . . . . . .must I go on?
Awe ba Times of Zambia muli bamusebanya sana imwe – you are proper boolickers!!.I am sad that a paper can sell based on lies intended for bootlicking at the expense of all of us Zambians.
Yes i like the pact but they should answer these questions. Exactly why should we trust you over every other comon political thief?[-(. Fellow Zambian these people should be scruitinized. I dont like ka Chiluba but he has a point here and instead of the pact getting back at Chiluba, they should simply answer those questions professionaly8->
THE ENGLISH PROVERB SAYS SET A THIEF TO CATCH A THIEF. THIEF CHILUBA, PLEASE TELL US MORE THIEVES IN OUR MIDST. HH. WHO ELSE?
#71 King Solomon- If another person had said this , then I would worry, but not Chimumbwa. This man was PF MP for Nchanga. He had problems getting contracts with KCM as an opposition MP so he switched to MMD and lost the by election.Any can see that this man cannot say anything goog on MCS. Like I have said having children outside marriage is not a sin.Even Abraham had Esau and 7 others from other women apart from Sarah. What is wrong is to neglect those children. To me it is not a serious issue compared to grabbing another person’s wife and enticing your wife to commit adultery so that you can divorce her and marry this married woman. Even if you are MMD, am sure you will agree that Chiluba’s ranting had no sustance and very kidish. #72 HH will head the PACT, dont worry.
Leave HH alone viva the pact viva Sata viva Hakainde.
BEST NEWS FOR ME TO DAY- THE MWATA KAZEMBE HAS DECIDED TO MEET HIS CHILDREN , FTJ AND SATA INDIVIDUALLY. IAM SURE TIMES AND DAILY WILL NOT MENTION THIS SINCE THEY WANT ALIENATE HH AND SATA AGAINST OUR CHIEFS. GOOD STEP YOUR HIGHNESS.ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION
Below is not my contribution, but makes good reading:Information held by the state of concerned persons or individuals is classified material and is not for public consumption. In English Law this is referred to and protected under the Data protection Act. Confidential information cannot be thrown around like that without the express consent of the individuals concerned or permission from relevant authorities. It is a serious breach and omission for anyone to throw sensitive information of anybody at will particularly for a person entrusted with such responsibility as a former President. Mr Mandela has not at any time discredited even his Jailors after leaving office, even our own KK here has not. Whatever the motivation is that is to the extreme part of it. Where you have functioning…
It is a serious breach and omission for anyone to throw sensitive information of anybody at will particularly for a person entrusted with such responsibility as a former President. Mr Mandela has not at any time discredited even his Jailors after leaving office, even our own KK here has not. Whatever the motivation is that is to the extreme part of it. Where you have functioning state institutions this is not a matter for chiefs to com
You people please we should choose things to pay attention to!!God help us please! bushe Zambians are we ever going to grow up sure?are we ever going to become a nation to reckon with when it comes to serious matters or work or issues? always on petty bullsh**t.No wonder these monkeys the so called politrickians find it so easy to blind fold zambians tossing them here and there as they wish.Why? because zambians are still children like those in pre-school they can’t distingiush between something of substance and foolishness/stupidity..Chiluba’s is the former he’s too old to be holding such public press nonsense shame on his ASS!!
Chiluba is a thief
# 72 Maestro you seem to give credibility to what former PF secretary general said, should we then give credibility to what Chizyuka is saying about HH. I used to think that you were intelligent alas you just copy and paste. Mwembeshi.
This is when one person personifies a PARTY, their personal failures are seen as a collective failure. PF has a number of capable pipo jes like THe UPND – however intra party democaracy doensnt exist at all.
#72 Maestro Hhehhehhe: Ala twantendwa nobe Maestro. Please ulelandako ifya mano. All that you show is hatred for Sata, at the end you even bring God’s word into you filthy thoughts. Let me tell you something. No matter how much hate you wish to show for the Sata, I can bet with you that Sata is the next president. The man was born a leader and he is ruling Zambia, come 2010. I would like to meet with you that time so that I give you a clap on your ugly bushman’s face.
He wants to be sent to armsterdam…..he will wishes to syay silent from there. FTJ wishes.
Whatever Chiluba is Claiming against Sata ,75% of us men have multiple relationships even FJT himself Knows this he did’nt only get Mwanza’s wife but had a lot of girls around.People in Chawama Knows this when blackouts were done to give FJT chance to move around.
That aside ,FJT is claiming that he is not back in active Politics why is he going arounding touring certains towns and Immediately he says something RB effects it,we know what they are doing thats why they doing all they could to dismantal the Pact.
why cant we listen to what chizuyak or chimumbwa is saying? chimumbwa is the one who financed most of sata’s campaingning putting himself in serious debt as a result. chizyuka was the main guy who supported HH during campaign against sikota so what are you talking about? u are the ones who do not anything. sata and HH are both frauds thats all. chimumbwa by the way is not even in politics at the moment. the court will hear testiminoy from anyone called as a witness. so if sata does sue he will be in more problems. people analyse issues withouit hatred or personal issues
#72Maestro. HH is a good man, you seem to a tribalist. I hate you thoughts, I will pray that you don’t last not even a year. You are not living. God hates people like you. Lightning will strike you dead soon, you wont see the next winter.
note PF has never held any election since its inception, NEVER. So how can you call yourselves democrats and support a dictator like sata? and then UPND we all heard and saw what Chizyuka and madyenkuku said that UPND President was only reserved for a TONGA. today that same madyenkuku is now in PF after going to MMD and then coming back to UPND and now in PF. So are those people we should listen to instead??? come on give us a break from this mediocrity. can you compare all these useless people with RB or any of the other senior leaders/sympathisers of MMD? you forget we have serious people like Bwalya Chiti, Chileshe Kapwepwe, Costain Chilala, Micheal kaingu, Mr. Lisulo of Lingstone and many other business leaders who will support MMD come 2011. sata is a finished article.
kadoli that picture you are using of a naked baby is a crime in many parts of the world. please find a better picture my brother.
Wow!!! Maestro hehhllehe is back on L.T.
a.m.a.f.i mukanwa. Always/naturally a tribalist…. good that he is at ground Zero this time…
I HAVE NEVER BEEN A SUPPORTER OF CHILUBA NOR SATA, I MY VIEW I THINK MR.SATA SHOULD ANSWER THIS QUESTIONS THAN RUNING TO THE COURTS HE STARTED THESE INSULTS SO HE SHOLD FINISH THEM.IT IS VERY UNFAR FOR THESE TWO CHAPS TO BE INVOLVING THEIR WIVES IN THEIR PERSONNAL DIFFERENCES.I WAS PLEASE PLEASE TO READ THAT THE MWATA KAZEMBE WILL MEET THE TWO OF THEM TO TRY AND RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AT LIST THE BEMBA PEOPLE HAVE A RESPONIBLE CHIEF IN THE MWATA THAT CHITIMUKULU WHO TAKES SIDE. LEADERS SHOULD BE THIER TO SERVE THEIR PEOPLE NOT TRADE INSULTS IN NATIONAL PAPERS EVERY DAY WHAT EXAMPLE ARE THEY GIVING TO OUR CHILDREN?
This article is bullshit…….why should we be wasting time debating on how many children Sata has or how many women he has all at the expense of economic matters that needs to be addressed..! Let MMMD answer questions first on what they have to offer Zambians that which they did not offer in the past 20 years…!
london true true. you need to also wash the mouths of some of the bloggers here
Why do we Zambians like Pettiness?, why do we entertain it? Chiluba is known to make people shift their attention from real issues to issues of pettiness, and what we are doing now debating on his press conference is exactly what he thought would happen if he where to bring the issues. He is also questionable about his instability on who he is supporting….Not long ago he was supporting Sata, because he knew that Mwanawasa will not let him off the hook, Hence thought that if he can support or back Sata he may have a chance of being let go off the hook of PLUNDER. Today things have changed because he is seeing himself back in court should the opposition pull through in the coming general elections….So fellow Zambians lets show these politicians that we are not interested in their Bikery
Crystal clear greetings. Please, ask someone who knows English to explain to you what I have put across in my postings above.
For the rest of you evil-driven characters who have ranted about me, may the good Lord God help you to become normal and be completely healed of your current sicknesses.
By God’s grace, next year I will be jumping up and down and blogging to the detriment of ill-motivated characters like some terrible wisher above.
Until the next time.
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Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all thesse things shall be added unto you.
Sata has been ranting and insulting everybody and it was not an issue to some people. No one cared about his victims. Now that the tide has changed and Satan is on the receiving end all hell has broken loose. Just answer the questions Sata, you have met your match. By the moral barometer which you use to judge and condemn your colleagues and opponents, are you that upright for president of Zambia? That is the basic question, Sataists.
I am surprised some men on this blog think all men are promiscuous, that all men have children out of wedlock. The truth is, there are more Zambian men who have children with ONLY their wives than those who have children outside marriage. No wonder some cant see that such conduct is unaceptable for a Head of State. Most Zambian men are decent.
As for Sata, track record show that he is not presidential material, Look at the 3rd Term in 2001. Why didnt FTJ give him the presidency? Look at the Chawama matchets. Look at his morality. Look at his mouth and how he is inconsistent. Many bloogers here would not wish Sata to be their father. The bad side of Sata is more than the good side.
Removing RB and MMd is one thing. But putting Sata and PF there is criminal negligence by voters.
amen no. 100 amen. this is point we are trying to make. I pray a new leader arises who can shock all these old men
# 51 Mr capitalist has made an observation that others have made about the interests bloggers on LT. Yes it is a wonder that bloggers on LT dont discuss economic or development issues. Every time such topics come, they run away, but are quick to pour their soul and heart on political issues, especially where Sata and PF are involved.
If this is a reflection of PF followers, then the nation will not be in safe hands as Zambia is not only about politics.
It’s also a slap in the face of LT. How did they manage to only attract one type of bloggers – politics and insults. Looks like those with brains for non political issues shy away from visiting LT. Not much for them. This is a shocking representation of Zambian people.
LT, make yourselves more appealing to wider Zambian society.
Now i prove politics is so dirty game.Pls be careful .
#101 King Solomon
I think good and wise Zambians should speak out. We have too many “ba cintomfwa” airing foolishness. An outsider would think that is what Zambian people are. Far from truth. Zambians dont deserve to have a president whose morality and conduct does not represent the moral fibre of the populace. We do not want a polygamist or morally bankrupt president in state house. If it happened before, fine. But it should not happen again. If the head is rotten, everything else will rot. Those who are promiscuous should know that their conduct is not acceptable. Any one who wants to be our president must be “fit and proper”.
# 13 shame on you! What work is RB doing apart from maximising his enjoyment of life while at plot 1 (what he never ever envisioned would happen in his life and therefore had no plan for the Country). RB is selling our Country to Choncholis while we are looking- people who pay our brothers peanuts, they don’t care about the environment nor protective clothing for workers etc. And RB is corrupt- the manner in which he handled RP Capital- involvement of his sons without shame, the Dora saga, selling Zamtel the list of misdeeds is endless so stop praising him on this blog you shortsighted iliterate villager
The South Africans showed us already. One woman or more Sata for state house and HH Veep come 2011. We have already made up our minds against RB and FTJ. Nothing will change things.
Pipo, both guys (SATA and CHILUBA) have serious questions to answer:
For Chiluba: Carrington Maize; Arms deal; source of the $8m in Zamtrop; the London court findings and judgement; the sale of Luanshya and other mines on C/belt; sale of parastatals; dealing in DRC uranium; unexplained deaths/killings of politicians Paul Tembo, Ngenda, Wezi Kaunda, Penza, etc, etc…
For Sata: Housing Project Unit funds at LUDC; unfinished Merzaf houses and flats in Chilenje; Avondale Housing scheme; missing Vitenges which led to his dismissal from the Northern Rhodesia Police Force; the smashing of skulls of Kanyama residents; the demolition of shanty compounds in Lusaka when he was District Governor (which earned him the title of SATANA), Chiluba’s third term attempt, etc, etc, WILL THE TWO TELL US?
Ibeg to differ on KK. You can’t compare KK with Mandela and other statemen. KK is a man who is full of resentment and hatred of some individuals such as FTJ ( I wonder how he feels now that the tide has shifted in favour of FTJ whom he hates with his soul. Nevers tried to reconcile the two at one time but the old man KK could have that. And the man claims to be a christian. Makes me believe that he is into some Eastern Religion- thats where you find religion that does not believe in love but in killing your enemies- terrorists. zambia is a Christian Nation
let him tell us who killed Richard Ngenda,Baldwin Nkunmbula,Paul tembo.Ronald Penza and Wezi kaunda…since he says he had records..and how did the national team in Gabon die?what were the findings?
LOUD MOUTH CONSTABLE SATA MUST BE PINCHING HIMSELF FOR STARTING A FIGHT WITH KAFUPI.DO YOU NOTICE HOW quickily QUIET HE HAS BECOME?KAFUPI MUST EQUALLY ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS TOO.WE WONT LET HIM GET AWAY.IN THE END UWAKAYELE RB WILL BE SAFE ON DRY LAND AND CONTINUE WITH THE MANDATE PEOPLE WILL GIVE HIM.i just love this fight.Two crooks are at each others throat.RB is smart.He set a thief to catch another thief.That’s what the adage says”not literally”but very close to that.
Why do courts of law (lawyers) concentrate on the character/credibility/integrity of a witness during trial. The witness would not have committed the offence, yet, innocent as he is, his character is a subject of intense interrogation and inspection in court. One has to be sure about the character and crediblity of the person that casts aspersions on the character of others. Sata has been questioning the characters of others (RB specifically). Character matters, and sexual conduct is a barometer for character. Character is even a high standard of measure for those who seek to lead other through public duty or matters of interest to the public. That is the reason John Terry was removed as Captain of the English national soccer team. It matters!
Chiluba is the most irritating person on this planet. Sata just concentratee on campaigning. Chiluba is RB’s stratagie to disturbilise the PACT. Who would listern to Chiluba anyways. ONLY FOOLS:
Ba MMD mwanya muzachiona you put Chiluba as a distraction while you are stealing….
WANTED – a group of dedicated young men and women to wrestle Zambia from the claws of myopia, ethnicity, corruption, poverty and inertia.
I dont see how anybody can hate Chiluba so much but somehow think Sata is great presidential material. Does that mean when Sata was supporting the short one you thought he was in the right? Did you start supporting PF only after Chiluba and Sata fell out? Who did you vote for in 2006 when your man Sata said he would free Chiluba of all corruption charges if elected republican president?This Chiluba issue is but one example of Sata’s inconsistencies. How can you say Chiluba is petty when Sata is the one who insults people all the time and then you go on to say that Chiluba is a spent force politically. If he is, then why panic when he goes to the Copperbelt?
Good Evening
#114 Far Munzi – you can sign me up on that seemingly “mission impossible”.
The Zambian media is really treating this political bashment like nothing else matters. Is anyone less interested than me in FTJ’s, Mr. Sata’s or HH’s personal life? My interest, if measureable, is a negative number.
Simply amazing how people can have so much time and energy to comment on non-developmental issues. Do they seriously believe that our real enemies, namely ignorance, corruption, poverty, diseases etc. will be eradicated by this debate???
#115, Bepushe ba mambala. I also wonder how anyone can identify Chiluba’s evil without mentioning Sata, who was his right hand man, wasnt it your beloved Sata. All those deaths you question, Sata just like Chiluba has blood on his hands. In fact continue raising these questions, at last zambians will see how evil this man is. Sata is not clean, Chiluba is Sata, and Sata is Chiluba, these two worked hand in hand from 1991-2001. Ten years of numerous murders that I hold Sata just as responsible as any other, he saved in key position in that governent. If he was a good person who has Zambia’s interest at heart, why didnt he resign like Mwanawasa. Chilankalipa sana when I hear people praising that dictator, he is no good. He doesnt deserve your vote good citizens.
Here we must understand, that there real issues are those of Chiluba and not whether Sata or HH has 100 million wifes in theire lives matters less.Let’s talk about the plunder of national resources by Chiluba.Don’t divert the attention of the people on petty issues like poligamy or whether HH was a Senior Officer during the sale of Luanshya mine.No,no people think twice. We have nothing to do with those petty issues raised by Chiluba.Let’s talk about plunder of national resources that have made Zambians poor.
CHILUBA, PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS FROM YOU, NOT FROM SATA AND HH. WHERE IS OUR MONEY, ETC? DON’T THINK PEOPLE WILL CHANGE AGAINST SATA AND HH JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR UNTIMELY QUESTIONS. THEY KNOW YOU ARE FIGHTING HARD TO FOR RB TO WIN SO THAT YOU AVOID JAIL. PEOPLE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU ARE BEING SPONSORED BY MMD TO CAUSE TROUBLE. BWANA, ABAYA KU JELE TENAMA, IYO. BWANA, MULEIPEKANYAFYE ILI MUPEPI JELE.
No, its Mr Sata who has to answer as things stand now, he is the one seeking public ofice, Kafupi is now a retiree. So the whole catholic church has been attacking RB in order to elevate Satana who is se.xi.ng their ‘inlaw’. sounds rerally petty.
I think some people on this blog are Bwezani relatives or friends, its sad for someone to claim that Bwezani is developing Zambia when he is busy stealing with his sons. Serously speaking where did Henry Banda gain experience in investiment projects such as selling of companies and buying fertilizer or improving a telecomunication company any where in the world The guy does not even know the chemical compound of Urea or compound D. Lets not be cheated, am related to some of these people I know whats happening inside, trust me they are all thieves and I don’t want to be part of this. If I wanted some money or deals I would be part of this stupid event in no time. I just have some human kindness, Children and women are dying on Bwezani’s time in every direction from state house.
I know Sata talks a lot but he speaks the truth, if you friends with Kafupi u should be a thief, why should Bwezani fogive kafupi when the whole world found him guilty. Coz he will need to be fogiven by the priz, for stealing money from the ministry of heath, agriculture and telecommunication. I know Sta has facts on this otherwise he would not have been making noise for nothing. Bwezani in China will be handshaked with a check for a few millions to sell the country and come back to Zambia to speak the gospel of the devil on how the China will develop Zambia not telling u how much he has been paid withh his friend Mutati.
I meant the next priz! Hahaha! I may need some typing skills from Austin Sichinga!!
Chakufwa, you are the one who is related to Bwezani by your own confession, so do not accuse others to be related to him and by extension to you. Do you think evryone is related to you then, just sober up in your support for the cobra, hope you wont be the next recepient of its vernom.Good luck!
FACT: More than 75 per cent of the current MMD leadership have children outside of marriage – both men and women. Check for yourselves: Just go through the entire MMD cabinet, Parliament, civil service and legislature name by name and see what you come up with. Start from State House, Vice President, etc. Chiluba is bent on nothing but bringing Rupiah Banda’s government down with his careless talk. After all, he has nothing to lose. He lost the little credibility he had a long time ago cheating on his wife. Only the extremely mentally challenged and political prostitutes in the MMD think it’s about Sata! It’s not. Let them go to court and see what comes out.
What I have observed with Mr. Sata is that each time some one talks about the truth on him he rushes to court so that the people can not talk about it. Bembas say icishinka chilakalipa. I sure FTJ has thrown mad king cobra’s head. The battle is between bena lubemba bekabeka fye twa lamona u walalekela ko.
My may concern about all you bloggers is that you are missing the point. The real scandal is why a reigning head of state would befriend a convicted thief(ref: London Judgment), a wife snatcher, suspected murderer, human rights abuser, trickster etc. In a civilized democracy RB would have been forced to resign. Unfortunately in Zed the head of state is openly declaring his admiration for such a person and even shielding him from prosecution and everyone accepts it as normal. These are the issues that should concern us. These are the issues that require honest answers. Bedroom antics or failure to comment on whether somebody paid a company money or not may matter but it can not be compared to befriending a well known dodgy character.
My may concern about all you bloggers is that you are missing the point. The real scandal is why a reigning head of state would befriend a convicted thief(ref: London Judgment), a wife snatcher, suspected murderer, human rights abuser, trickster etc. In a civilized democracy RB would have been forced to resign. Unfortunately in Zed the head of state is openly declaring his admiration for such a person and even shielding him from prosecution and everyone accepts it as normal. These are the issues that should concern us. These are the issues that require honest answers. Bedroom antics or failure to comment on whether a former head ofstate paid a company money or not may matter but it can not be compared to befriending a well known dodgy character.
HH is soo innocent and whatever Chiluba can say about him is baseless for some of us at the moment. This man was one of the richest five businessmen in
zambia, but we did not hear his name untill when he became president for upnd party, then some started rubbing mud at him. We could have accepted and believed these allegations if Chiluba brought them that time when we did not know him. HH is one of the most hardworking men in zambia and he can make a very good leader if not the best zambia can ever have. So Chiluba just was your own dirty linen and do not smear those who do not have that dirty you have.
Oh! sorry I meant Chiluba just wash your own dirty linen and do not smear those who do not have that dirty you have.
You guys wake up these guys say bad things about HH because they want to deny us zambians a good leader, we do not need failures any more like Chiluba.
Privatisation was sstarted by Chiluba in 1991 and went up to close to 1995, and all this period we did not hear the name Hakainde Hichilema in our zambian scene not until 2006 when he became an aspiring candidate for upnd and a convertion. Even on any GRZ corruption documents his name is not there and the man is clean. So Chiluba accept to die alone in your sins and leave the innocent to enjoy their lives.
FTJ should shut up and simply bring back what he stole from the Zambian people. He can’t trick us any more. We need change!!!!!!
We need a fresh start and take a leaf from Niger
iye bane ba madamu last nyt, she found a message pa foni bane, from teh friend, the message ati: hi you, hw u doin? imiss the tyms we had. wish u cud be here.
bane ba madamu nava zanda, i only slept with the friend before we got serious na ba madamu, the friend nimusungu nayena, she has oways bin jelous bane. my wife doesnt believe, wat ll i do bane? awe nilumuka situation bane. deuces bane. nizee:)>-
# 133 tell her truth and mean it. all she wants is to know she is really yours and your behaviour makes her doubt that..
LUSAKA TIMES ,WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO GIVE CREDENCE TO CHILUBA’S RUBBISH.THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.WHAT ISSUES DID THIS KAFUPI RAISE.THIS KAMA GUY IS A SPENT FORCE WHO HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.HE IS SO POLARISING.WE WANT LEADERS WHO CAN UNITE ZAMBIANS NOT THIS FAILURE,I DONT KNOW HOW ZAMBIA MADE HIM PRESIDENT.HE IS SO SHALLOW.
Tell her you are like Mike Sata and Chiluba: A man of many women!
Most of you people are blinded by loyalty to your Political Parties or leaders that you just create a natural hatred for others.
You see when a criminal or suspect is arrested they may point a finger or mention a few things that can help solve even a bigger problem, but naturally what happens is that we wont give them that opportunity kaili ati he is a thief we have caught him what can he say.
So most of you here decide to ignore issues raised by FTJ just like you should have known something was up when FTJ said
“I didnt know that Power was so sweet”
That in itself should have sent ringing bells and people to question but you ignored it until we had the third term issues. So this time dont look at the person talking ask yourself if you are happy with the situation the way it…