GOVERNMENT has instituted investigations into reports that Patriotic Front (PF) president Michael Sata was allegedly imprisoned for breaking the law.
Home Affairs Minister Lameck Mangani told the Sunday Mail in an interview yesterday that if the allegations against Mr Sata turn out to be true, then he will not be eligible for future elections.
Mr Mangani said Government decided to investigate the matter after a former freedom fighter Jackson Ngoma claimed that he once shared prison cells with Mr Sata.
Mr Ngoma, 77, the last district governor for Mambwe, said he shared the same prison cells with Mr Sata at Bwana Mkubwa and Mukobeko prisons in the early 1960s.
The former freedom fighter said he and other youths were rounded up for the role they played in the Chachacha uprising during the independence struggle. At the time, Mr Sata was a policeman and was brought in the cells in Ndola for a case review and later transferred to the maximum security prison in Kabwe.
Mr Mangani said Government would like to establish whether Mr Sata was tried and convicted of any crime or was merely one of the political detainees during the freedom struggle.
Mr Mangani said as a former police officer Mr Sata should know very well that he is not eligible to contest elections if he was convicted of a crime.
The minister said the Zambian law does not allow a former convict to run for elections.
“If indeed Mr Sata served a prison sentence, it means he does not qualify to stand for elections, then all these years that he has been standing, he has been doing it illegally,” Mr Mangani said.
He said, however, that there could be no better witness to the alleged incarceration than the people who shared a prison cell with Mr Sata.
He said although the incident happened before independence, government will get to the bottom of the matter to establish the truth.
Mr Sata could not be reached for a comment, but PF general secretary Wynter Kabimba accused Mr Mangani of not understanding constitutional provisions.
“Who says that if a person was convicted 20, 50 or 100 years ago he cannot stand for election?” Mr Kabimba asked.
He could not state whether Mr Sata was convicted, but said the constitution only bars presidential aspirants who were convicted five years preceding an election.
“There is nowhere in the Constitution where it says that anyone who has been convicted can never stand for elections. The Constitution says that the person who has been convicted five years leading to an election cannot stand for presidential elections,” Mr Kabimba said.
Meanwhile, KANGWA MULENGA reports that MMD youths on the Copperbelt and a non-governmental organisation (NGO) have challenged Mr Sata to withdraw from the Presidential race following revelations that he has two children outside marriage and allegations that he was once incarcerated for criminal offences.
Party provincial youth chairman Evans Chibanda said in an interview in Ndola yesterday that it is worrying that a person aspiring to become a Republican President could have such a record.
“We challenge Mr Sata to withdraw from the Presidential race until he clears himself from all the things that have surfaced against him,” Mr Chibanda said.
He has since cautioned Zambians to be careful with politicians aspiring to lead the country.
National Moral Advocates for a Better Zambia chairperson Alex Mubanga said there is need to establish the nature of the case that led to Mr Sata allegedly being imprisoned.
He said Mr Sata should inform the nation on the alleged criminal offence.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
Hahahahaha.!!….This is comical..!
While you are at it bosses please just investigate the forgery allegations of a University degree from London, unless they remained Matero University to London. Criminals should not be rewarded and no wonder this man brought so much violence in our party and most of us were relieved to see him leave and surely we can’t let a convicted criminal be in charge of our country. Has anyone ever given a hungry dog to guard a pot of chicken. Lets not do that as a nation
There are a lot of children with grey hair in the government.Thays we are not seeing developed.These fools are good at speaking nosense..Chiluba was a convict and is stil a convict.Bring better things to challenge SATA…or better shut up..address floods and see how we better our hospitals,support the jobless and eliminate poverty…
How do these people actually live with themselves?
The MMD is desperate and panicking and now resorting to childish witch hunting.
MMD-You are really scared of Sata such that you are having nightmares.Your State controlled media are running screaming headlines on Sata
This is all Chiluba politics ..really taking us back to the time he was president and this is the same blue print they used against KK.
If I may ask the MMD people, why are you letting chiluba disctate the affairs of your party using his old tactics. Have you run out of ideas. You might just end up making Sata popular and draw simphathy votes to him, because people are not stupid and they can clearly see you are trying everything in the book to bar him from contesting.
My question is why are you so scared of the guy you have beaten before, twice for that matter and I don’t see anybody voting for Sata if you just deliver on you promises in the budget. Leave the old man alone please. Yesterday it was polygamy, old age, University degree and now criminal record, all on one…
SATA WAS A CONVICT. MY GOD THIS SATA IS A WRONG CHAP. FISRT HE SLEEPS WITH TWO SISTERS, AND IMPREGNANTS THEM. NOW HE IS A CONVICTED FELLON. AND SOME NORMAL ZAMBIANS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM. NISHI WHAT IS IT THAT SATA GAVE YOU, WHAT INTEREST DO YOU HAVE IN SATA.
PLEASE ZAMBIANS BE OBJECTIVE, IF YOU ARE A TRIBALIST, THEN AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID GO ALIGN YOURSELF WITH CHIPIMO. STOP SUPPORTING THIS USELESS MAN, HE IS OLD LET HIM ENJOY HIS LAST YEARS AT HOME. HE IS NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL. GOD WILL NOT LET ZAMBIA BE RULED BY MAN OF THIS CHARACTER. SATA WE DISQUALIFY YOU WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT. SHAMEFUL THAT A PERSON CAN EVEN THINK THAT HE CAN BE A GOOD PRESIDENT
#2, MMD Chiefbootlicker, you have no shame!
As long as there people like you around, Zambia will never develop!
Sata who is smarting from a divorce from his ‘’first’’ wife, Margaret Sata and married Dr Catherine Kaseba at Pamodzi Hotel on new year’s eve of 31st December 1994, takes Holy Communion.
The Church strict teachings on marriage forbids, divorces except under exceptional circumstance. Under its teachings Marriage is indissoluble if it is contracted freely and under the Church Rules and Regulations.
However in the circumstances of Michael Sata, the Church seems to have thrown away its strict teachings on the Holy Eucharist and its administration.
Recently, during the Kasama By-Elections, Sata is said to have formalized his marriage to Petronella Mpundu through a ‘’Chombela Ng’anda’’ in Kasama. Sata’s vehement denial of this tradition celebration seems to be motivated…
Good Afternoon
Is this a Sunday joke? It is quite plain to see that someone here is trying very hard to inhibit the chances of Mr. Sata from becoming democratically elected. Almost all African presidents have been jailed before because of their political activities in their early days. Mr. Mandela, the living legacy, is the ultimate paradigm in this respect.
Please stop wasting time on useless schemes that can’t work and concentrate on your job.You have made Sata ver popular.
You Mangani a corrupt man busy giving work permits to Indans and chinese for jpbs that can be done bu Qualified Zamboians now roaming the streets
by his failure to inform his wife, Kaseba and the Nation!
Following Chiluba’s revelation of this marriage which relationship Archbishop Mpundu deem to be over 20 years old, it has emerged that in fact, Sata had first sired a child with Petronella’s elder sister ( known as Margaret- by press time, the authors were frantically establishing the correct name), who was whisked away and sent to Canada following the embarrassing matter. It is then that Sata moved to Petronella where he has two children.
It was expected that Archbishop Mpundu would tackle this and the matter of Petronella.
Archbishop Mpundu neglected to elaborate how Mr. Sata is allowed to partake in the Holy Communion under these murky circumstances especially that he called the Press conference to defend the integrity…
The torrent of attacks could not save even a departed man. Archbishop Mpundu opened with a tirade of attacks on President Mwanawasa disclosing that he refused to mourn him when he died because President Mwanawasa held him as ‘’a member of the PF and Bishop no.1 of the PF’’.
Archbishop Mpundu further disclosed that he refused to participate in a national program called at the height of sensitive national grief.
Zambia National Broadcasting Cprporation(ZNBC) had with genuine ingenious organized a program titled ‘’Legacy of the deceased President.’’. The program was designed to remember the late President at such a difficult time for the nation. The nation was in heightened grief, Mwanawasa’s family desolate, and political opportunist on the ready. ZNBC sought the voice…
Yet Archbishop Mpundu had collected two tickets for his Bishops from Mwanawasa to enable the prelates attend the funeral of that great shepherd, Pope John Paul II in Rome, Italy.
In this speech at this fateful press conference, Archbishop ridiculed and dwelt on Mwanawasa’s legacy claiming that there is no legacy but ‘’a figment of a fertile imagination’’ by known persons. He said the Legacy was being promoted ‘’by a clique of known persons whose duty it was to retain power or ascend to power.’’
He poured so much scorn on Mwanawasa’s legacy that you would be persuaded to remind him that his brother-in-law, Michael Sata spends inordinate times extolling the virtues of Mwanawasa’s legacy and he has chosen to single-handedly champion it to achieve immediate political…
A small matter of marital infidelity requiring no more than a simple explanation as detoriated into a political storm exposing Archbishop Mpundu’s activities, and his lieutenant’s anti-government schemes.
A matter that should have been buried is now flaring exposing a man condoning the sinful practices of his brother-in-law.
When his Pope has spent time to clean the soiled image of the Church accused of numerous allegations of Child abuse and homosexuality practices by its priests, Mpundu seems to be practicing the very cover-up tactics his Pope his fighting.
This is a matter for the faithful. If it were upto ordinary mortals, the calls for his resignation would be louder than the tolling bells in his church.
No 13 to 16 ulishilu kaili ulichipuba.
Like it or not Sata is the President for Zambia in 2011 ,he will show you what
service is all about
I thought today was April 1, and assumed thus was a fools’ day joke. Zambian leaders are so petty and retards.
And this guy is our minister of Home Affairs. Am sorry but if feel embarrassed to be called a Zambian, i wonder what foreigners think of us. enough said, i dont want to read anything more about Zambian b.s am out.
Chijomba, what servie records are you talking about, little fluke changes become something to base a campaign on. Okay lets admit your so called service record, what about Chawama hackings, what about Sata’s solo pledge for Chiluba’s thrid term bid, what about Sata’s promise that Chiluba will be free when he is elected, what about his lack of moarals, adultery can be forgiven, but sleeping with two sisters of bishop, that is immorality at its highest order, what about the fact that he was at the other end of the fight for independence, if this is still not good enough, If he i ssuch a man of the people, why didnt he resign like Mwanawasa when he saw that things were not good, I mean Sata saw all those political murders, Penza, Nkumbula, Tembo, Sata was number three at the centre of it…
Chijomba, what about the lack of his ability to uphold the constitution, do you remember he declared in 2008 that if he wins he would only have an election in 2013 not 2011, have you forgotten this, what about the fact that PF has never held a convention, Sata ha snever been elected to that position he holds. what about his lack of tolerance for other views, should I continue Chijomba. NOW TELL ME WHETHER I SHOULD CONTINUE TO TALK OF SATA AS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE JUST BECOZ OF A SERVICE RECORD. WHAT WILL THAT SERVICE RECORD FO FOR ME WHEN SATA REFUSES TO LEAVE POWER AT THE END OF HIS TERM, I SEE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SATS AND MUGABE. THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME CHIJOMBA, WAKE UP FROM YOUR NIGHTMARE.
By all reality, the PF dream has become quite surreal. Their wasted time and calls for Sata’s candidacy is an expression of incompetence on the part of the PF cadres, MCC and SA based Boers freeloaders shredding their money baselessly. Seemingly, they don’t understand where to draw the divide and effectively utilize the constitution to address this blatant PF crisis before hand. There is no amount of patched relationship of so called PACTs that will overwrite or soothe the national disdainful feelings of the PACT, so many things are wrong with PF. Zambians and ruling MMD stand to preserve the sanctity and dignity of the institution of the Presidency. By law and moral reason the Zambian Chief Justice’s chamber shall never be reduced to place of rewarding perverts and criminal convicts…
ZENIAN Does your constitution bar poligamist to stand us Presidential candidates? If not then most blog do not what they are writting about. Do not even know ZUMA. From what you are writting the declare Zambia as one MMD Party participatory because you are not interested of politcical party competetion. In short you guys do not understand the term MULTIPARTY. Do not fear. Bye bye ba mukuta. Its weekend twaya Mukunwa fwebaiboimbela
ZENIAN Does your constitution bar poligamist to stand us Presidential candidates? If not then most blog do not what they are writting about. Do not even know ZUMA. From what you are writting the declare Zambia as one MMD Party participatory because you are not interested of politcical party competetion. In short you guys do not understand the term MULTIPARTY. Do not fear. Bye bye ba mukuta. Its weekend twaya Mukunwa fwebaiboimbela
I CHALLENGE ALL YOU ZAMBIANS HERE, IF THIS INFORMATION COMING OUT ON SATA WAS ON RB, WOULD YOU BE AS SYMPATHETIC, AND UNPATRIOTIC AS YOUR ARE CARRYING YOURSELVES. PLEASE BE OBJECTIVE WITH YOUR REASONING SKILLS, DO NOT DESTROY THIS COUNTRY, WE ARE NOT THE LAST GENERATION, THINK OF THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET BEEN BORN. IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT TO LEAVE AS A LEGACY FOR OUR CHILDREN. NO ZAMBIA, DO NOT BE SEDUCED BY THE DEVIL, THE DEVIL IS VERY SEDUCTIVE. LOOK AT SATA FOR WHAT HE IS, AND ANSWER MY QUESTION IF THIS INFORMATION WAS ON RB, WOULD YOU TAKE IT SO LIGHTLY, OR YOUR GUNS WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT FIRING AT ALL ANGLES.
There is fire on the mountain, Kaponya run! run! run!. The unpatriotic Sata surrogates, Father Bwalya and Bishop Mpundu shoving a criminal on the civil citizen are hell bent in destroying our country polity by imposing a polygamous and certified criminal on the ballot. This is in their deluded quest of the presidency at all cost even to the detriment of our national integrity and laws. Surely the coming months and weeks of these anti democrats will be a pointer to my argument that PF is in deep delusions.
#11 you are absolutely right. MDD have run out of tangible arguments to curb Sata’s momentum in popularity. Other than Mandela, KK had more than 5 criminal convinctions during the colonial time’s constitution. This is certainly deflating, to see a minister of home affairs who should harbour transparency and professionalism to stoop so low. This is now making Sata even more popular all the more. By the way people should check Rupia’s children and their mothers and calculate if they were all born in wedlock.
PF cadres like Given Lubinda and Willie Nsanda who could have explained the gamble are just incompetent and a shame to our great nation. This nocturnal shoving of a criminally convicted criminal on the republic Presidential ballot is not only unheralded daft, but is the anticlimax of series of melodramas that have befuddled PF for too long until the fall heavy in this race. Like in any other normal constitutional country with a rule of law, the sponsors of this criminal conduct deserve to be merited stiff penalties systematically.
Nine Chale,
Sata was not a politician nor a freedom fighter. His conction was criminal and not political. These are things i have advised you to orient yourself in basic law.
LELO LELO, ALA MWE BANTU, MULEYUMFWILA ? BA MMD TABALELALA UTULO BALE ENDA ABASAKAMANA. BA MANGANI, NENSONI IYO, GO PACT GO, YOUR IMPACT IS BEING FELT. BY EARLY NEXT YEAR, I CAN FORESEE A SITUATION WHERE MMD AS PARTY SHALL BE IN A SEVERE TRAUMA BECAUSE TRULY, THESE ARE THE KICKS OF A DYING HOSE. INTUNGULUSHI SHILEISEKESHA ISHINE, SHILELILA NAMAFUMO YALAPONA NAPANSHI – MULEYA NANGU MUKOSE SHANI MWACILAMO UBUFI NOBUPUPU ICALO CILEMONEKA KWATI FWE BEKALA CALO TATUTONTONKANYA MULANDU WABUKAITEMWE BWENU. BUSHE IMWE BENE BA MANGANI NABA MMD CHIEF BOOTLICKER TAMUMFWA NENSONI ELYO MUTANDALA MU FYALO FYABANENU NEFYO PA ZAMBIA PALI MULANDU WAKUTI ABALI MUBUTEKO BABOMBELA FYE UKWISUSHA AMATUMBA YABO UKWABULA UKUSAKAMANA INFRUSTRUCTURE YA CALO. NANGU MUPIMPE SHANI BANE MULEYA.
What government do we have? Always briging tension in the country and for selfish reasons.Mr. President Ruphia Bwezani Banda please cage this loose minister of yours before he brings chaos to our beautiful country. KK please talk to this former minister of your who is now president on how to govern a country
Why should a polygamous convicted criminal be allowed to stand for elections? The prison records should be there for people to know the nature of the crime. We can’t leave this one to speculation, we should all dig deeper and find out what crime Sata committed. PF UPND pact has failed to replicate the 1991 spirit let alone the 2001″anti sad term”. We shall ensure the donor community knows exactly what crime he committed so that approprite action is taken.
Honourable Minister which or whose bottom to you want to get to? Careful and tread softly lest you ignite our country. You are a shame even to sanction such a fruitless venture. Mr. Sata is would not have been a factor if only your government worked for the betterment of all Zambians as opposed to stealing from we the people you are suppose to govern. Hard work can reward your government with reelection come 2011 as opposed to this witch hunt you have embarked upon. This act of desparation will sway voters against MMD. Like it or not Mr. Sata is popular and any imaginary cases or attempts to bar him will have terrible consquences which even you as Minister of Home Affairs can not handle. Be mature Hon Mangani
SCARED LITTLE MEN. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. RUN MMD RUN! Nothing lasts for ever, this is the end of the road for MMD, they say last kicks of a dying horse:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/
Mangani continues to amaze. This former civics teacher at Chizongwe now Home Affairs minister is the worst joker of a minister. This is so pathetic really & the Sunday Mail to carry this article goes to show how they stink as a national newspaper….Mangani you’re a joke. & a shame.
Compared to this crop of BUFFONS, Late Levy Mwanawasa was a SAINT despite his human frailities.
What has Mangani done as minister of home affairs about a well known ghost teacher who stole from the GRZ? If that teacher had been Sata’s wife I am very sure that Mangani would have made the biggest noise ever. Mr Mangani you have said Sata is going to be investigated and disqualified to contest in 2011. By the same token the female ghost teacher must be investigated and her husband disqualified for 2011. Zambia belongs to all of us not only the Manganis and the Bandas.
Has your MMD degree clause for presidential candidates gone down the drain Mr Mangani? This is not the first time Sata is standing for president and all along your MMD was in government! You guys are embarrassing to say the least. Why do all of you (supposedly EDUCATED guys led by a degree holding president) panic so much over a supposedly UNEDUCATED man? I thought your education should allow you to shift the discussion to economic/technical issues which are supposed to be beyond Mr Sata. Now we can really see who is educated. Old men are supposed to be wise but not your lot (MMD) it seems. Atase!
I would kill myself to have one of these clowns as a dad!
Is this a joke or what?
Next head line will be “Sata is not circumcised”.He can’t stand for elections.
Politicians are a big joke, after all they are all friends. Zambians wake up!
Now, if someone were to claim that Sata is or was mad at a certain time, would MANGANI (JAIL THEM!) have instituted an investigation into this? RB is married to someone fit to be his granddaughter, why don’t we hear that he is being investigated for defilement? Shameless politics. MMD, you are tired, please RETIRE!
Please stop this madness how many people were in prison during the late 50s and early 60s? The Government is making SM more popular every day such statements are made. Mangani should work hard fighting robberies in Zambia and improve the conditions of police officers than wasting time on things that will not help Zambia go forward.
Mud-slinging, that’s all this is… although some people are saying don’t vote for Sata, can they please show all of us who are against this present govt., another better candidate? Track record yaba MMD currently leaves a lot to be desired, all this hopping from one continent to the other, bringing in Gaddafi at 75% in Zamtel (75%!!!!), farmers being harassed for a piece of chicken, the list is endless…
Next you will hear that that they are trying to amend the same law in NCC for clarity to say that as long as one was ever convicted at one point whether in the colonial time or now they cannot stand for presidency.
It is so clear that government i just targeting one person.it will continue till election time. instead of looking at development issues.
So, it is clear that this government is convinced that Sata is not presidential material and will stop at nothing to prevent him from governing Zambia. My question is, why not have the b*a*l*l*s to just pass a law specifically banning Sata from running? They seem to be shooting in the dark trying to come up with ways to prevent the man from running so use the Manda Hill. They have the votes to do it why not do it so we can move on to something else. This Sata business is getting old and they are turning Sata into a hero he really is not. In reality, Zambia is screwed because the so called alternative to the MMD criminals is really more of the same MMD criminality. At the end of the day, Zambia needs divine intervention … no one on the current political scene is going to save Zambia.
Lusaka Times, s*c*r*e*w*e*d is a perfectly legitimate non vulgar way to characterize the Zambian political scene.
Kinda of very funny. RB has a Child with Miliam Makeba, LPM had a Child while at University, FTJ has had 4 known wifes and a hundred fold girl friends who included small girls from Mable Show secondary school in Kawambwa and Kabwata in Lusaka. Just like the degree clause this will die down and very fast.
:d/ There is a saying that HE who the GOD’s want to destroy, he first makes them MAD. That is what is happening in this Government. The MMD lost it when Mwanawasa died, because people started to connect with him and he should have helped them WIN the Elections in 2011, if he sold his prefered Candidate. His death happened for a reason, and now you’ve a Headless President, and a sick Vice President. 😕 You need to ponder that the Hour is GONE!!!!
Some convictions (criminal records) are “spent” with the passage of time and therefore do not need to be declared. Home Affairs minister take note.
Zambia is on a civil war course. If people allow MMD to fight Sata with lies from Eastern Province instead of Records, then count this as a war path. Don’t think all these countries that were plunged into civil wars started any different from the path Banda is taking. Be reminded that when you push someone too far, they will eventually react. MMD tried the degree thing, probably they have confirmed every thing and they know they are on the losing end. Now it is this? What about the statement from Kunda about Banda being a dictator? Is he confirming the statement? MMD must not take people for granted. People are angry with the failed policies from Banda and the corruption that he has brought in Zambia. Stopping Sata from contesting by using a statement from that fool will mean danger.
I wasn’t going to vote in 2011 because all politicians are unimpressive. but because of this I will go and vote. I will vote for Sata because any fool can see that the MMD is using government machinery for political purposes. Sata was their member and he was never investigated for anything. Now he is out of their party he becomes a criminal. This shows you there are many criminals in the MMD but because they are in power they are being shielded so lets remove the MMD from power and lets see how many Katele Kalumbas are being protected!
This Mangani is hopeless. To think that he is even a minister makes me wonder what is happening to Zambia. Sata has been active in Zambian politics since independence.Why this nonsense now? By the way, this Mangani, doesn’t he know that many people who fought the colonialists were imprisoned. Where has this guy come from or where has been all this time?
Sata is just providing entertainment. He is not presidential material. If he was he would have been elected in 2001, 2006 or 2008. As long as his life is so unChristian, he will always lose by a “small margin” but lose he always shall. Guys these biblical things are true. Presidents are ordained by God and if Sata was ordained for that position there was no way God would have woken up Levy from sleep, or shipped RB from his farm as a future replacement for Levy. The latest revelations on Sata are a divine way of telling Zambians the truth that Sata does not live as he loudly preaches. More embarrassment is coming, and if I were Sata I would take this as a timely warning and depart from the political scene with whatever little dignity there remains for him.
This is the waste crap I have ever come across. I mean, who does this buffoon of a minister think he can hoodwink with this kind of utter b…s…t! I pit RB, he has completely lost it. Next thing we will hear is that becoz Sata is not castrated he cannot be a presidential candidate. To RB and his minions, please get a life and grow up or get out of the political scene if you cannot stand civilized political competition!
Call Zuma and you will know Sata is a baby!
what a long time. before my father was born.
Stupidity and cowardise at its best! Bane has the Zambian government run short of ideas of fighting Sata. MMD, you must be a sleepy bunch. Please, do not embarrass yourselves with such issues. Where were you the last two elections when he stood for elections?
SATA ALIMIKA MU CIPUKI. YOU CHAPS ARE ALWAYS SWEATING WITH WHAT TO PIN SATA. OUT OF THAT DESPERATION YOU GONNA END UP COMMITTING A LOT OF OFFENCES AGAINST YOURSELVES. FINISH CHILUBA’S CASE FIRST AND THEN GO TO SATA’S. JUST A REMINDER-CORRUPTLY CONVICT AND JAIL SATA, ZAMBIA WILL BE ON FIRE. NO ONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME HAS SO MUCH INFLUENCE AS SATA. PEOPLE KNOW HE HAS A VISION FOR POSITIVE ZAMBIA AND THEY BELIEVE IN HIM.
STOP INVESTING WHOLE PEOPLES’ MONEY INTO TRYING TO SEE THAT SATA DOES NOT STAND FOR PRESIDENCY. IT WILL BADLY BACK-FIRE ON ALL OF YOU. DO NOT TAKE TOO MUCH ADVANTAGE OF DOMICILE ZAMBIANS WHO FEAR TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. BECAUSE ONE DAY, AND VERY SOON THEY STAND UP TO BE COUNTED AND THAT WILL BE UNMANAGEABLE.
So many people where imprisoned and jailed during the colonial era- they were fighting for our freedom. Mangani you should be saying thank you to Sata for his role in liberating your fat A.ss. This is really irritating. Now they are trying to manipulate the election in the open. This sad.
The PF main man, Mr MC Sata has been done badly his friend Mr FTJ Chiluba not only now but even in 2001 when Mr FTJ Chiluba deluded Mr Sata MC for Mr LPM to be MMD presidential candidate. What I like about all this is that Mr FTJ Chiluba despite his bad leadership in misruling Zambia has protected Zambia from the worst tribalist and now known criminal convict in Zambian history by not letting Mr Sata MC to become Zambian President.
I thus urge Mr MC Sata to come out in the open and tell the whole Nation wha exactly led to his being placed in prison with Mr Jackson Ngoma, a freedom fighter for me and all other Zambians.
Have a blessed and may GRZ make sure the former probably criminal convict Mr MC Sata does not qualify to be nominated as Zambia Presidential candidate.
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Matt 6:33
This is the kind of stupidity that forced me to relinguish my Zambian citizeship. The 1960 constitution is no longer applicable. How are you gonna investigate someone over the Chachacha era? This is a serious brain F.A.R.T.
constitution where. think big. mumuyopa Sata che imwe
#62 How did you manage that. Seems I wouldn’t mind, at the rate we are going….
It is getting hot, and hot each day for the people in govt of Zambia. Many of those praying aganist Sata as the next Zambian President may be shocked, many times God used the wicked Leaders, and Nation to punish the Children of God. All the attempts to bring down Mr Sata down have been unfruitful, leave this Man alone, if God wants him to rule Zambia, l am sorry you people are fighting the losing battle. And why is MMD in such a panick? they know this time, that Mr Sata will carry the day, Sorry MMD members we just have to accept, if you had done your home work, you could have not been panicking like this. To me Mr Sata is UNSTOPPABLE.In case you want to talk at length, please call me on 01612029914.
This is bull and GRZ has sunk so low. Why this nonsense now??
MMD need to talk about what development if any they have brought to Zambia unlike being so petty and politically naive in taking on Sata.RB`s advisers need to be seriously questioned about the poor tactics they are using on handling Sata.These political tactics most recently applied against Sata are making him more popular than ever.There`s a saying that if your political opponent is in trouble,step aside so that their self destruction can work to your advantage.Whatever Sata is doing is getting on RB`s nerves and RB can`t politically handle Sata.
Desperation at its best we are enjoying the drama. Sata seems to be way ahead of the MMD going by his utterances we see more sense in what he is saying than what is coming from RB,GK,and Mangani.give us solutions to real issues .
No 2: u cant surviva on lies. u are a shameless man. MMD is gone weather u like it or not SATA is incoming President.Who dont know the game u had arranged 4 ka small man but chi big thief? Your days are numbered you will be taken accountable for this evil weeds u are playing in mind of many poor Zambian. SATA is a man who belongs to us Zambians and our vote count on him. 2011 i am sending a warn to you crooks that expect no patience from Zambians should u steal u our voters 4 SATA we will react Kenya or Zimbabwe way no to inclusive govt.! RB is actually a criminal
He was arrested for smoking dobo and he has since stopped doing so. A good example of a reformed convict!
All I can say is that we have darft people in MMD.
Iwe Chibanda (NGO), whoever sponsored you to give this statement did not prepare your speech well. :o:o Can Sata clear his name of not having sired children when they already exist? Find Constitutional issues he should consider not stand as president.
All eligible peope of Zambeziland can stand for presidency… you too.
Considering the caliber of MMD and the President, at this point there is need to cartel MMD from elections. MMD has shown that they are full of nothing but words and corruption and will try to do anything and everything to continue being in office. They denied that the degree issue was not aimed at Sata, fortunately Sata was way ahead of them. They tried Chiluba, now it is backfiring and they have seen that Sata is smarter than Kafupi. They tried the chiefs, the chiefs started looking more foolish and realized that they were fighting a losing battle. Sata took a bus ride to Lundazi, and he was welcomed like a hero. Now it is how was imprisoned by the colonialist, in short, heroes for our independence. If this does not ask for us to change government today, when should we do?
The pact has 2 leaders if the other one fails the test of morality the other one will pass. VIVA HH
Zambian witchhunt amazes me. Do these people really think that Sata should be barred for what he did over 50 years ago? Well, having desparate leaders can be very dangerous. I wont be surprised if people start dying mysteriously. Do we really need to continue with such a political atmosphere where the so-called leaders are more interested in what they can get and NOT what they can deliver? We need to move and move with the times. RB or Sata are not our vision for leadership. Let us wake up. Go with the people who can think and think ahead. The choice is yours next year.
MMD is a bunch of white haired *****s who does’t have a slightest idea of how a country can be developed. Mwaba ama toll lee ba staninenwe ba tomb mbaninenwe
These people are determined to start a civil war. They obviously take Zambians for fools.
As much as I am not a fan of Mr Sata these events are turning things around for Sata.He may even emerge as the next President.I am appauled that Chiluba with all his mess can raise a finger and judge Sata.RB as well…how does Thandie come in already with 2 or more kids when his wife MHRIP died while they were born?
If there is anything I fear in life is to judge another person because it is with the same measure I shall be judged as well.
If MMD wanted to win the votes all they had to do is simple…WORK.I don’t think any of the ministers know their job discription apart from threatening the opposition.
MAY THE WILL OF GOD BE DONE FOR OUR NATION,AMEN.
Now ladies and gentlemen, let us confess that us MMD have failed to lead this nation and have become laughing stocks of the region. We thought RB would be our savior and lead us into Paradise but with our own eyes, we are seeing that we are no match to the PACT and our foolish leader Banda instead of embarking on developing Zambia, he has chosen to enrich himself and sheltered all the money meant for development abroad. But since he has traveled more than Marco Polo could do, even us in MMD don’t even know in which country he has hidden the money. My last word for my fellow MMD and Banda supporters is that we are fools and have been used by this criminal. We are asking for your forgiveness all those that we have foolishly offended on this blog. Sata is the only solution for the nation.
I foresee banners next Year……………EM EM DEE TYMU 2 RETAYA or THE AWA HAS CAMU TO GO AWAY 4 EVA. This is becoz even the illiterates can fore see their impending exit.
Ba “what is this” naimwe mulishilu.you are jst posting ifyabulamo amano.
Ba SC@ 79, finally the awakening……….lol. Tell us which church are you entering thses days?
Honestly. MMD needs enlightenment on the way of life. The golden rule “DO AS YOU WOULD BE DONE BY” ia one rule that seriously needs to be drilled in their heads for sure. One only has to look from top to bottom of the pyramid.
Inkondo pa Zed patali. Mubepelefye! Despite our docile attributes, we know that after the storm comes calmness. May the agitaters of strife be put to shame in Jesus’ name.
My rude awaking came when we were visited by the AG’s young men and women. I knew that at one time I would need the same people I have been busy ridiculing and for sure going by the behavior of our Ministers back home, I saw that something was awfully wrong. My friend in Canada – Capitalist stopped blogging and coming out as venomous as he was, perpetually, there was nothing to defend in the MMD government apart from just attacking. That did not make any sense at all. I asked myself why we have no record to defend. Then I asked myself why attack personalities instead of policies. Then I found that even MMD has never had a policy for anything apart from us being crafty when it comes to election times. That turned on my light bulb. This is confession of the black sheep.
The tools, techniques and capacity of screening people have changed. Those who aspire to be leaders need to appreciate that they will have piece of their lives mined and scanned for detriments. Convicted criminals forfeit their rights and privileges in life. Look at s-e-x offenders in the USA and all that have been convicted. In many constitutional democracies convicted criminals they lose even their voting rights, employment and other public benefits. In the USA a convicted criminal like Sata not aspire for federally security clearable jobs.
# 85, You are to young and naked to fit in my big shoes. Just enjoy your free blogging here when you can, I just entered Canada this morning yet nakedly you poorly laboring to impersonate me. Not here may you try your on blog where your details will be yours only. FYI I don’t insult.
Please people do not be fooled by this Canadian blogger copying and pasting my previous postings. I have repented and will remain so. Please do not expect those long winded postings from. If you see such such just know that they are coming from some haters who want my head on the chopping board when Sata takes over in 2011. I have embarrassed myself and my family well too much and I deserve some privacy as I undergo this period of penance.
I like your positivity and totally understand where you are coming from. Actually I think you could pass yourself for counsellor to ensure that the youths of today falling prey to the old tactics do not loose their future in shameless fashion. Keep on seeking to empower your soul and remember to always take the middle way. Stay blessed.
# 87, please do not use my name in vain. What do you mean naked to fit my shoes. How does nakedness relate to shoes? God bless your soul and help you repent. Please leave me alone.
Let me help draw to reality all PF ng’wang’wazi here hallucinating that there will be war when the constitutional clause on convicted criminals is invoked over their gang leader Sata known for fueling street kids uncontrollably. Well, like many informed patriots have sanctitly put it including brother SC in entries #22, 26,28 and # 86. Go anywhere in democracies where rules take precedence, the full rights of citizenship are forfeited by convicted criminals. When a criminal completes his sentence and is released from prison, he can take one of two paths. He can revert to his lawless ways, or he can become indistinguishable from most Americans by working at an honest job, paying his taxes, respecting the rights of his neighbors, and staying out of trouble.
Lets look at the USA the oldest democracy, here in the best scenario, the ex-convict will do everything that good citizens do—exercise his freedom of religion, express his political opinions, petition the government, be free of unreasonable searches, or avoid self-incrimination. Everything, that is, except vote In 11 states, ex-convicts automatically and permanently lose their right to participate in elections. Currently, 1.4 million offenders are denied the franchise. The only exceptions are ex-convicts who obtain pardons, which are rare. (The states that permanently bar all ex-convicts from voting are Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wyoming.). I challenge PF mishanga boys here to counter these facts.
The impact is greatest among racial minorities. “In seven states that deny the vote to ex-offenders,” reports the Sentencing Project, “one in four black men is permanently disenfranchised.” It’s fair to say that this policy is the biggest hindrance to black voting since the poll tax.
Revocation of the franchise as a punishment for crimes goes back to ancient Greece and Anglo-Saxon England. It is specifically provided for in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, and the Supreme Court has upheld the specific laws. But it survives today in America mainly as a vestige of the past—widely accepted but rarely examined.
PF kaponyas belaboring to shove criminal convict Sata should learn from the USA. listen to what El gore said during a Des Moines debate, Al Gore and Bill Bradley were asked if the practice ought to be reconsidered, both endorsed the ban. “The principle that convicted felons do not have a right to vote is an old one, it is well-established,” announced Gore, who said he supported the “established principle that felonies—certainly heinous crimes—should result in a disenfranchisement.”
My comrades, I Senior Citizen and Veteran cannot be in two places at the same time. The postings you are seeing above are from some chap in California who is a staunch supporter of RB. Not me. The young man thinks Zambia is USA. He thinks democracy is synonymous with USA but fails to mention the Florida saga. Forgive him, he is new in world affairs and politics of appeasement.
Letting convicts vote or run for publicc office is too much a unconstitutional danger. Convicts have no business running for public office or indeed picking public office bearers . And allowing criminal convicts or inmates to run for public office or vote is obvious dangerous because they will be fighting for fellow convicts than upholding the constitutional clause on criminal law. Imagine the occupants of Mukobeko, maximum-security penitentiary runing for office or voting as a bloc and essentially running Zambia.
One indisputable rationale argument why Zambia should invoke the criminal act is that it protects good government by preventing criminals from voting for lax law enforcement to their fraternal interest. It is exceedingly unlikely that ex-cons would promote a people’s Government or serve to promote a just Zambia that abhors criminal conduct..People like Corrupt polygamous Sata as criminal convicts would start r-a-p-i-n-g citizens needlessly, stealing, and killing with machetes any voice of reason because they are naturally convicted criminals. Imagine a convicted criminal like sata being commander in-Chief, head of the intelligence agencies and Government.
Another justification for denying ex-convicts the vote is that criminals have shown themselves incompetent to participate in self-government. everywhere constitutions and court decision endorse the disenfranchisement of ex-convicts because they, like “i-d-i-o-t-s, insane persons and minors … lack the requisite judgment and discretion which fit them for the exercise.” But certainly we let minors vote when they reach the age of maturity. By the same logic, a lawbreaker should have no constitutional right on the Presidency.Sata is a convicted criminal without rights on the Presidency.the Chief Justice as a retaining officer cannot take nominations of a convicted criminal because doing doing so is both criminal and curving the law.
Senior citizen/veteran….F.uc.k off..!
Mwaiche Veteran,SHUSHUSHU,Senior Citizen
You`ve repeatedly laboured to say how the MMD is headed for a landslide victory in the 2011 general elections.So far your MMD party seems clueless on how to get on message.Are you now finally reading the true political atmosphere on the ground?It`s alarming to see a party in power this chaotic.Strong rhetoric in this case doesn`t seem to be working.All the best as you labour to fulfill your SHUSHUSHU duties.
“There is nowhere in the Constitution where it says that anyone who has been convicted can never stand for elections. The Constitution says that the person who has been convicted five years leading to an election cannot stand for presidential elections,”
Veteran,,,base your arguments on the constitution,if the constitution says that Sata can stand,then there’s nothing you can do about it,those are your oppinions and face the facts,there’s nothing you or anyone else can do about it..America is not Zambia,if we did things as Americans do,then we would be a developed country by now
Punishment, of course, is one function of the criminal justice system anywhere in democracies. no doubt another important one, though, is rehabilitation: encouraging and preparing lawbreakers to change their ways. however i agree that irrevocable disenfranchisement, however, amounts to a repudiation of the latter goal. It tells the offender that no matter what he does, he can never fully rejoin the community he sinned against. Instead of fostering the criminal’s healthy reintegration into society, we promote perpetual alienation.And unfortunately the law which Sata did not change when he was too preoccupied with dancing following his barring of KK’s candidacy in 1996, is still effective and here to haunt him.
Examining Sata’s quagmire, his hard-liners may say too bad and unfair for the ex-con—but that’s the price of making war on the law-abiding. But who suffers from this sanction? Not the impenitent ex-con like Sata, who is wasting his time on such chump rituals as voting. The only people who suffer for ambitious ex-con are these poor minded brainwashed cadres we see here who think sata is a factor for imaginary war against descent Zambians and indeed for those that go straight, do their best to abide by social and legal norms, and hope to be accepted as full members of society in none sensitive roles. Some ex-convicts want to make the journey from criminal to full citizen. It’s in their interest and ours to help them but not on the Presidential stamp.
Ba fikalar you cant tell me that you never new that he was once in jail. He has just stopped scratching your backs and now you want to let his skeletons out of the closet. Fuc off, let young pipo rule not you with wringled faces
I rest my case with this friendly reminder to PACT members to search their hearts and look alternatively in and outside their patched marriage of convenience for leadership. No doubt the Zambian laws will not curve in for the sake of failing individuals. Sata is an authentic convited criminal onlyy presenting you the biggest challenge to nowhere at hand.Dreaming of war against Zambians is a myrth of the insane minds towards own myrtydom.Forewarning is forearming.Sata is a “certified convicted criminal”.
Veteran
What crime was Sata convicted,how long ago and what does the constitution says,,,answer these questions,otherwiseif the constitution says he can stand,live with it,you will end up having high blood pressure
Hichilema vividly know Sata’s criminal record hence staying deafeningly silent while the charcoal man is turning into public ashes. Everyone knows hence failure to assemble an intelligent countering voice.Given Lubinda has no points to start with while Willie Nsanda and Kambwili have realized that blandishing their Pistol on patriotic citizens has no mileage.On the blogs PF cadres are so confused that they are shooting blanks on every voice.I hope their confusion does not turn bizarre in the camp when reality dawns on the door.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK time is ticking,start preparing for fare well parties,with the AG’s report i doubt there will be any send off party at the embassy! whether mmd wins or lose,contracts are expiring,lots of mmd caders back home who want the same job,they are not personal to holder posts,any cader is entitled to serve in diplomatic missions,you can make as much noise as you want,campaign all day,but the axe will surelly fall
Thanks Veteran for the prolific blogs with details.
MMD Describes The Fourth-Coming By Elections In Milanzi Constituency As Rumble In The Jungle.
The Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD) has described the fourth-coming by elections in Milanzi constituency in Zambia’s Eastern Province, as rumble in the jungle. Party Provincial Chairperson, Kennedy Zulu told journalists in Chipata that the by-election in Milanzi will determine and shape the outcome of the 2011 general elections. Mr. Zulu declared that the ruling party is ready and that it will give the people of Milanzi a right candidate of their choice. Milanzi is due to hold parliamentary by-elections following
the death of Area Member of Parliament, Reuben Chisenga Banda who died in a car accident last month.
Chiluba, Banda even Super Ken all have skeletons when it comes to morals or having extra marital affairs. RB has worse stories that would make one puke when you hear them, talk about VJ worse so leave these moral standards out because few Zambians can pass the test.
I was one of the people that thought that the UPND – PF pact was going nowhere but I am now beginning to think otherwise.The way the MMD is panicing gives an indication that trouble is looming for them big time.They tried using the degree clause in the flawed constitution to bar Sata,but seemed to be beaten at their own game.FTJ`s press conference shenanigans brought more shame than good and now the criminal accusations against Sata are also viewed in the same light.Whatever Sata and HH are doing is really getting on RB`s nerves.My advice to the Pact is “peddle to the metal”
#75, having read your contribution just makes wonder when you last visited Zambia if ever you do. Don’t compare Sata with RB. Sata is too smart for RB. If having a university degree meant thinking like RB, I wouldn’t bother. Because, even with a uni degree, he is just a complete fo.ol. 75, go to Zambia and see the enthusiasm people have about Sata. Mind you Sata and his entourage travel on buses while RB and his fellow crooks just burn expensive fuel on the expense of Zambians empty tummies. In Sata gvt all MPs and mini-sters will be using buses. Those are some of the things to come.
But this blog has full of fools. #110 is citing a fellow cadre’s statement about some Milanzi by election as a litmus test for the 2011 election. What makes Milanzi special than the Kasama and the Solwezi by elections? Why not mention another loss coming MMD way in the Bonshe replacement that MMD will lose like babies that they are? Bwana your statement is like citing those foolish chiefs who were complaining about the road to the game park that MMD is strong. Man, it is time to acknowledge Zambia is gone. Your pants are on fire hence you have to cartel others from contesting. If Sata is not allowed to contest, you will see how Zambians will react. The same gear your Primary School Teacher-Minister of Home Affairs says he bought for the police will turn against MMD
I meant is full of fools.
Chapi,
You PF cadres never stop amusing me with Utopia. You really believe Sata has overcome the damage on this head, has a chance in the 2011 elections and holds a verifiable four year college degree? In what and from where? I doubt if you even have one yourself. That aside, the problem here is that PF cadres do not look into things in details. Even if they try to analyze, they fail easily. You PF cadres find it very difficult to ask fundamental questions to your leader. Even where its plain clear that its gooze chase in vanity you still hold on to your illusions.Under any responsible Zambian, Sata will never test the power in plot one.
With all these scams, it must be profitable to own a private investigation firm. I am most certain newspapers like The Post, Times of Zambia and Dailymail can pay top dollar for the skeletons politicians hub in their closets. Whatever the case, we are in the information age and I’m sure their is serious money in digging and unearthing scandals and selling them to newspapers, radio stations, TV stations, web news and even the international media.
What a business opportunity. 😕
Coming to the story, there is nothing wrong with this investigation. If it is in the constitution then an investigation must be carried out on the potential candidates.
If Mr. Sata had to run and is found with a case to answer which would disqualify him for the presidential race, then he would be running illegally. Zambia has got laws and the laws must be respected.
I find it hard to believe that Zambians have so much time on their hands blogging on useless matters. There is no constitutional proviso that prevents any citizen who has a child with someone who is not a spouse from contesting the presidency, let alone a citizen who has had a conviction over 5 years prior to any given presidential election. And a conviction is just that, it does not matter whether it was political or otherwise. KK and Chiluba spent some time either in prison or in detention. Who knows, may be even Levy and RB could have spent some time in prison or detention in their youth, certainly RB did spend some time in detention during the time Chiluba was president …. And all who have served Zambia as presidents, I believe, have had a child or two outside marriage.
chi MMD thief bootlicker ichilufumo
So RB has a child with Mirriam Makeba? Please give more information its becoming interesting.Can you ask mmd and chiluba to confirm.
There will be no civil war in Zambia in Jesus name. Zambia is under the blood of blood of Jesus. Plans of violence , hatred and backwardness will not prevail. May the Lord open the eyes of Zambians to see the positive things that brings us together and we will not be used by the evil plans of politicians to bring our nation backward, may the Lord punish and judge every politician sowing seeds of strife and violence.
Cry My Beloved Country
If Sata was a convict, that was almost 50 years ago, Please Hon Mangani and the Govt, lets concentrate on serious developmental issues not wasting our hard earned money investigating things that happened in the Northern Rhodesian Era
This is type of witch hunt actually puts Sata on a harder ground to win the elections. Personally i would prefer HH to win the elections but this type of biased reporting is actually making Sata more popular. This is exactly what was happening here in SA when they tried so hard to discredit Jacob Zuma. Rape, bribery, corruption were all levelled against him but what happened in the end…you all know…
I do not support Mr Sata nor his ideals but I think MMD govt is being cheap by trying to bar him from contesting. Let him contest and let the people decide – that is democracy. The guy has contested 3 presidential elections now and has lost all of them. Why the panic?
now! do you guys think you can honnesly change our minds about PRESIDENT SATA?
forget it. go dig whatever you want about SATA, no matter how dirty it will be, atleast it will be clean
compared to your mmd corruption.
HAPPEN WHAT MAY, I WILL VOTE FOR SATA.
I wonder why some people are so passionate about old criminals! I have said it before and I will say it again..both RB and Sata are expired products! Why threaten civil war over such perverts?
I wonder if the investigations will take the same form and outcome as those taken against the Lusaka MMD Youth Chairman who is in gang repu? – spelling changed for ‘censorship reasons’
I am totally ashamed to be Zambian….At a time when I thought we are moving in the right directions, good lord have mercy [-o<
# 121 awe RB doesn’t have a child with Mirriam Makeba. He has a son with Hugh Masekela’s sister Barbara. She was the in South African Diplomatic office. Shrek ni ziiiii kuma girlo:d/
Sata came to Mansa last week and destroyed what ever little popularity MMD had garnered when RB went to see Mwata. From there Kasama, Lundazi where he faced those chiefs who had threatened him over the Mfuwe Monkey road.This is what has made the MMD to panic. MY advise is MMD , just develop Zambia, creat jobs, make life affordable and you wont need to come up with all this stoopidities to stop Sata. Propaganda by your cloney called Snr Citizen will no change our thinking about MMD..
Veteran – The worklds oldest democracy is not USE, its Greece you prick!
All MMD needs to do to win next elections is to fire RB & put a credible candidate like FM.
Surely u are a chief bootlicker, dont be scared of the unknown. You will try all sort of tactics but that wont make your president and others to turn tables around. This is a similar thing that happened to Chiluba, some just got out of his bed and claimed he was the father to Chiluba. From your unbecoming comments one can tell that you are in a kiln.
MMD,
You can not supress the masses that dont want you forver. You know Sata is the most popular politician in Zambia today. He has the most followers so you are trying everything to ensure he is barred from standing, so RB can go against the unwinnalbe HH then you win in 2011.
From first it was age, then because you have RB (no longer younger Levy) who is Sata’s agemate you have now changed to degree clause. Then you talk about the 1.2 billion. Now you want to go into the archives of more that 50 yoear ago just to bar Sata.
Let me warn you, you will bring untold misery onto mother Zambia because people are getting fed up and will definately revolt! This is how civil wars begin, spare us blood shed, let people contest the elections and people decide who they want. This is a warn
Even if it is true – it really shows MMD’s desperation. Maybe if they focus on getting that non competitively sourced Chinese company to complete the 60 boreholes Zambia companies could have drilled they may stand a chance in 2011 :d
I WILL BE THE LAST PERSON TO WISH FOR SATA TO BECOME OUR PRESIDENT FOR VARIOUS REASONS BUT I CANT STAND THE SITUATION IS GOING OUT OF ITS WAY TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE, AT ANY COST TO TRY TO PREVENT HIM FORM EXERCISING HIS RIGHTS. THIS IS ABUSE OF POWER AND I THINK THERE ARE INSTRUMENTS IN PLACE TO BRING THIS MINISTER TO ORDER OR EVEN TO BOOK FOR PERSUING SOMETHING CONTARY TO OUR NORMS. HE IS EXPENDING ALL HIS ENERGIES INTO FIGHTING POLITICAL ADVERSARIES USING HIS OFFICE INSTEAD OF FIGHTING CRIME AND VICES. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP BEFORE THE MINISTER BECOMES A LIABILITY TO ALL OF US.
#121 Miriam Makeba only had one daughter Bongi with her first husband. Bongi died in in Guinea in the early eightied due to complications related to child-birth. RB has a child with the sister of Hugh Masekela who was at one time the husband of late Makeba.
#8 wise up. be objective and read in between the lines. convicetd during Chachacha uprising …read some on that or do dome research. that was a period when we were fighting for indepence..the 60’s..what kind of madness is this..its utter rubbish. MMD is shameless..was KK not arrested too, and many other politicians of old who served the GVT. and they were not even arrested by GRZ but by racist colonialists and that is what you want to bring up against the man…we need these krapers out of GV
I have changed today am for Sata because there is too much for his head.instead of developing Zed people are busy on useless things which can not feed Zedians.Some of us we are out here because such ministers like mangani could not give us the platfom to progress.Imagine Sata winning,some people will take off.
The Zambian law does not allow a criminal to stand as president even if that crime was committed in Northern Rhodesia. Well, to use the same arguement, the Zambian constitution does not allow a foreigner to be President even if that foreigner was born before Rhodesia became Zambia. Rupiah Banda was born in Zimbabwe (Southern Rhodesia)!! Sometimes desperation by incompetent politicians can make them dribble a ball into your own goal.
I will vote for SATA come 2011. VIVA SATA
There are two ‘Senior Citizens’ blogging on this subject, one is in the USA and the other in Canada. The one that appears to be a reformed senior citizen is an impersonator. The real Senior Citizen and Veteran are too brainwashed and beyond redemption.
143,
Senior Citizen and Veteran are the same person. He worls at the US embassy. I hope he is looking for cheap couriers for his goods next year
If Sata was convicted fighting for freedom before the independence then he is our HERO (e.g Mandela or any other former freedom fighters)**==
If Zambia has to elect ‘good’ leaders and move in the right direction, emotions should be cast away in their support of parties, presidential and parliamentary candidates. Objective support will help us move forward and develop Zambia. This will help us debate on progressive issues, like social services and economic development.
Its a pitty that most supporters of various political parties and leaders do so emotionally than objectively.
#143 – It could well be that senior citizen has changed. Check his comments on RB returns from China on comment #15. its like napepa dobo or something coz he is actually criticizing RB! Unfuc _ing beleivable!
145
Ka’doyo says:
March 8, 2010 at 1:11 pmIf Sata was convicted fighting for freedom before the independence then he is our HERO (e.g Mandela or any other former freedom fighters).GOOD COMMENT. BY THE WAY, WHAT WAS THIS MR NGOMA DOING IN JAIL AND STILL BECAME A GOVERNOR IN UNIP. AT 77 ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT AT THAT TIME IF HE WAS A YOUTH, THEN SATA WAS A MERE CHILD. THE WHOLE STORY IS A MEANS OF MR NGOMA GETTING A JOB IN THE UNIP GOVERNMENT (MMD) LEAD BY RB,
Serious conspiracies….YOU SHOULD ALL WATCH TV ACTION SERIES “24” Seanson 1-9; then you will understand how governments operate….SATA is a serious threat to all MMD politicians, because they live in a world of personal agendas ONLY, and until they achieve this, they will stop at nothing. African politics is a farce, it has never been about the people, it has always been, ME, MYSELF and MY OWN. The bigger problem is, they steal from hard working Zambians and then use this charade to sell their propaganda and they never get caught out. There is always an exit plan when it comes to African politics and the sad part is the general public can see it in broad daylight but decide to bury their heads in the SAND…shame on you Zambians.
# 53 Kakolwe
I agree with you. Absolutely. For as long as Zambia is a Christian nation, nobody would be president unless God allows it. Those who are not children of God cannot understand these things. God is real and he has the final say. If the LORD does not want Sata to be president of Zambia, then he will never be president. It’s as simple as that, and no one can argue with the owner of the earth.
Awe kwena this story has cracked me up.Ala eh drama ishipwa pa Z iyi.Lol:-?
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. (Edmund Burke)
Hell is Truth Seen Too Late. (Thomas Hobbes)
There’s no Season 9 for 24,latest is season 8 day10 this coming week
Bane umulandu taubola. Sata is a convict and should not be allowed to context.This is good for our young generation who are going to abhore criminality knowing too well that what they do now will have a bearing on their future endeavours. we are doing this for morality and posterity for the future generation. Once a criminal always one. No wonder Sata continues to behave criminally up until now. You F**k two sisters at once and you want to contest for the highest office. No wonder Ka Given Lubinda behaves like that. birds of the same feathers. Ba Sata balitena ukutendeka kachiluba. lekeni kabwele mukumendesha mutima elyo mwalaumfwa. aferall Chiluba is not seeking political office. Sata achilamo. first Mrs Sata Headmistress Kamwala, then Dr. Kaseba, the Mpundu’s sisters. awelishilu
Come on people, is this news? It seems this party has lost vision and now their main job is to stay in power at all cost. When are these F.O.O.LS going to talk about dvelopment rather than always talking about Sata. Elections are next year almost two years from now, so why all this panic. Please MMD concentrate on development,job creation, poverty reduction and you wont have to worry about Sata or HH or even the new party by some dude who opened one last week! we are tied of politics we want results and not promises. This time dont campaign with: “If you bring us back we will do this and that” campaign with:”Bring us back to CONTINUE with this and that” tell people what you have done not what you will do.
Go Sata Go, MMD is going this time. Coz this people the so called “MMD” don’t have a heart for the people of Zambia. All they’ve been doing is looking for so many useless ways to just bring you down, but this won’t help them.
#155. I like your COMMENT coz you’re right.
its very interesting to note the silence of HH and the lack of protection from Lubinda and other senior PF leaders. It looks like sata has been abandoned and he is now panicking and scrambling around the country. within the next 7 days the Pact will crumble. All you PF kaponya’s watch this space and see what fire FTJ will come out with. unlike other amateurs FTJ takes his time to frame his responses. lets see if sata does take the case to court, the 7 days is over in which he wanted an apology, so whats next?? total destruction of the evil snake sata
MMD ARE BUNCH OF FOOLS!!! WE NEED TO EVICT THEM OUT OF THE GOVT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loooooooooooool, this is “panick station” at it’s best. This is so PETTY!!! KUYA BEBELE BANE!!! 2011, ZWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Guys, honestly we will let luny behaviour to continue after 2011? These guys need to go, PLEASE.
Whenever I wake up I hear pipo screaming PACT! PACT! Am not yet comfortable on how the govt will be formed from the PF/UPND PACT. Is Cabinet 50-50, foriegn missions 50-50, PS 50-50, what about Top positions whose party? Intelligence Department for SATA or HH? Educate me pliz.:)
Zambia has educated men and women who can rule this country. But they decide to remain mute and leave everything to empty heads. Kindly look at the qualifications of people in parliament currently. e.g Mumbi phiri is a pre-school teacher. Read NEW VISION news paper. Come on guys!
If the so-called empty haeds are the ones that dont want their rights to be trampled on & the rest of us, so-called “educated” are dim witted enough to stay away from insults & physical abuse, then so be it.
Let them or braven up & speak for Zambia. Otherwise shut your pie-hole[-(
MMD IS CRAZY IF SATA WAS CONVICTED SO MANDELA WAS THEN THAT SHOWS HOW HERO HE IS WE FORGIVE ALL THE BOYS IN MMD ESPECIALLY MANGANI HE SHOUD GO BACK TO PRE-SCHOOL AND START AFRESH COZ HE IS TOO BOBICAL
My question: What is the bigger crime?
1. Fathering children with other women, or
2. Marrying a child younger than your own children?
kwena i really dont know what this so called magani has in his brain box! Because this man is just existing in Zambia. Mangani if your brains are in the south pull them up!!!!!!! this issue will burn your fingers. micheal is very popular and will not allow that u bar him in the next elections. mwalitumpa Sana ba MMD:((
To investigate a simple common famous (even babies know him) Sata has taken more than my age 49 years then what are chances of Zed improving? No wonder the world think the Victoria falls is in Zimbabwe and S Africa because we have a sleepy ministry of tourism.
Wat God has ordained to be shall be no two ways about it..nothing man can do to change that!
Enough is Enough. Zambian politics have really gone mad. The best way forward is for both RB and Sata to stand down from politics as they have reached their expiry date. In your 70s what more do you want. Allow the young one take on the roles. They should stop digging into matters that are not going to benefit anyone
This is so Dumb what happened to focusing on the issues. Does MMD feel so week that the only way they feel they will win is by disqualifying there competition. I think we need change and maybe a younger President and the hour has come for something new. The smart people will be grooming some for the elections after 2011, maybe then we will see real change but for now its politricks as usual.
I still Find it amusing that an election strategy is to disqualify the competition. (Even if the dude Sata was in jail as a freedom fighter, how dumb do we have to be to say he can’t be prezodent, it just sounds stupid… ) MMD needs to hire a better PR team or just rig the elections as usual. lol
its sad that as we approach elections this 40 years ago story comes to life, tell me who of them all is better than the other?. we all know VJ’s politrickery, he will bring up senseless issues and create lifeless political parties to split votes and confuse the people of zambia. its sad that our inspiration is without wisdom, this is the time we choose development over MMD
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