Lusaka province MMD chairman William Banda has refuted allegations made by UPND vice president Richard Kapita that he has been threatening innocent Zambians of death if they refused to support the ruling MMD.
Speaking in an interview with Qfm in Lusaka, Mr. Banda challenged the UPND vice president to take him to police if he had proof concerning the allegations.
Mr. Banda described such allegations as abnormal because politics in the country is not about killing one another.
He said killing is a serious criminal offence and should not be tolerated by all political players IN THE country.
UPND vice president Richard Kapita was quoted by Qfm saying Lusaka province MMD Chairman William Banda has been threatening Zambians of death if they refused to support the MMD.
QFM
keep this vigilante at the Zambia-Malawi no man’s land where he belongs !:-w
Threatening to kill someone is a serious offence so is threatening to gang rape anyone,after all the inspector general of police said threatening anyone is not a crime unless the crime itself was committed, so even if this illegal immigrant from Malawi threatend anyone,he would just walk away,surely how do we allow such foreigners to come right in our backyards and terrorise us,banda was born in zimbabwe,ka sh.it ka chiluba from congo,now this william banda,next katumbi after stealing from us he is fetted by some monkey chiefs on the copperbelt
Richard Kapita is ust a useless sissy soliciting for attention.No wonder this chap failed EW Tarrys Manica Fleights and had all his kids here on drags without even a community college associate degree.Himself is a John solye ubwali depending on his wife since he lost it at Manica.
Protecting the presidency…
IT has always been put across that making slanderous remarks about the Republican presidency constitutes a criminal offence and convicted offenders deserve nothing less than a jail term.
The reason is that a president plays a defining role at home and around the world, having a telling impact on every aspect of citizens’ lives by way of that office holder’s words and deeds.
That office represents the greatest good and the most honourable aspirations in the nation.
It does not matter how diversely voters may perceive the office-holder as an individual, but as soon as one is sworn in as the head of State, that person qualifies the occupant to 100 per cent of the possible respect in the land. It is an institution.
Every head of State does become the point of gossip, and even the butt of jokes in schools, homes, on the streets, in taxis and elsewhere.
Should the office holder fail to impress in one or two areas of national service, which is possible, given natural human limitations, criticism will be expected.
There will be public debate on those areas of failure or poor performance, but universal esteem of such offices excludes personal ridicule.
There is difference between the person and the office.
One key assumption that should guide debate, especially among opposition leaders, is that the person holding office has generally qualified for that office even in terms of personal expectations among the public. The person’s character has gone through a level of scrutiny.
The performance in office by that person is what matters when a head of State is evaluated. Yes, the performance can be criticised, and even then there are limits to the kind of language that may be used.
Criticism of the presidency is not expected to dishonour the office or the person as a top priority. The top priority should be to provide help and add value to that office and its performance.
This man is dull & a stooge. He never learns. I hope they eliminate him for real we wouldn’t miss him in Zambian politics. He is a person we can do without one problem sorted
FAIR CRITICISM
Political leaders must not criticise like followers; they know what it is to handle government leadership and should consider looking at the other side of the coin as they endeavour to put their points across.
Second Republican President Frederick Chiluba knows quite well how criticisms of the presidency have been carved by seasoned critics, who have nothing to hit at but the presidency.
Dr Chiluba and late president Levy Mwanawasa received harsh criticisms during their respective reigns and most of it was not about tackling their policies but something that can be described as personal.
President Banda has been having a share of the harsh criticism, and again, what is coming out clearly is that, those that are hurling insults at him do not seem to tackle issues attached to development and the economic policies that he has adopted.
It is a shame that, instead of uniting the nation through the good things that the president has done and is doing, others are taking a different route which would be perfect ingredients for dividing the nation.
The country is at crossroads and it appears the problem that is leading to the negative debates is certainly not what is being done, but the people that are doing it. So, it really borders on personalities. Who would pin-point the grounds for such free flow of insults against the presidency?
So far, Zambian politics has seen a situation where the top priority has appeared to be the dishonour of the individual who holds that office. The words used to criticise his performance have been so sharp and personal that even if he searched for help from that criticism he would not find any.
MANIFESTO
But is wielding insults at the presidency part of the manifestos for some of the political parties? Really, the opposition parties must now be obsessed with matters that the people shall be comfortable with in their bid to take this country to the next level.
It is clearly evident that the use of insults conceals their own manifestos which presently are not clear because the important thing, to their cadres, is the firepower of bad language.
Instead of exerting their energies on what these political parties would deliver to the Zambian people, they have occupied their domain with all sorts of vulgar language, making the citizens doubt their reasons of existence.
A mention of some names in the political arena quickly brings in a feeling of crude language. Is that the kind of menu the Zambian people would love to experience?
Zambians are tired of meaningless ways of politicians advancing their self-worth with their mouths full of abuse. Zambians are now alert and would want to put their money on anything that would bring development.
This begs a question as to how some politicians have structured their manifestos. Do their manifestos contain nothing but insults?
Here, however, whenever people are reminded that they should give the president maximum respect and the consequences that would arise for the failure to do so, when they bring the name of the president into disrepute, they just brush such advice aside as proof of bias for the incumbent.
The moral impropriety that goes with the mob psychology when uttering unpalatable words against the presidency fizzles out when these people are faced with the reality of having to serve jail terms by virtue of being found guilty of insulting the president.
RB is for real a ceremonial leader with no agenda to develop Zambia not even to empower farmer him having been picked from his own farm what a shame. & then he has the likes of William Banda as his advisors what a shame. A case birds of the feather
So, for 35-year-old Darius Mukuka of Ndola who was convicted on Wednesday last week by Ndola Chief Magistrate Kelvin Limbani for 18 months in prison with hard labour for defaming President Rupiah Banda, he must be wishing he never raised disparaging issues against the Head of State.
The action by Mr Limbani to send Mukuka to jail with hard labour merely demonstrates the fact that being foul-mouthed about the presidency does not pay and this should serve as a deterrent to would-be offenders.
And if consumption of intoxicants should have been an excuse to warrant the exercise he embarked on, to bring the name of the president into disrepute, then hell would break loose.
PEACE
Zambia is a free country with absolute free expression, but not in the manner that could ignite confusion that may ruin the peace that has been enjoyed over the years.
But some senior citizens, who wear extremely important gowns in the Zambian political system, being leaders of opposition parties with presumable national character, have been in the limelight in bringing down the presidency.
It is not a rumour that they, themselves, have more serious ambitions of leading the Zambian people and would need the electorate’s respect for the very presidency they are frowning upon.
They would do well to fire their salvos with some sympathy because one day they may be in the same boots he is in today.
William Banda is still living in the political stone age era. He still has a UNIP mentality. Anyway, the MMD is now a faction of UNIP of which KK is also a member.
Guys sorry if I am being thick.
Is this the same William Banda the midget deported to Malawi? If so what happened to his deportation?
Mwata as much as we appreciate your pasion about the MMD , i think you are doing it on a wrong forum. The topic at hand is about William Banda and you have not said anything relevant to that. Can 4 other bloggers please complain about Mwata’s comments so that they can be removed. I have complained already. Mwata dont misuse your freedom of speech
I dont know why Chiluba sent this William Banda to Malawi but i bet he did so in the name peace.
This man’s language should not be tolerated. His politics of preaching violence can be a source of anarch. He prides himself as a great organiser by using threats or undemocratic means to recruit members to his gang. We don’t need such 18th century politics. The president must tell his dog to back down on military rhetoric because that is a threat to peace and unity among our people.
ba William ikaleni fye.threats for what the vote will kill you as well.
The threat to national peace is not political fire brand William Banda but those tribalist Mpundu, Bwalya, Kabanda, Sata and Mwewa who are sponsoring arsonists and taking pride in the anarchy that ensured in Zaire and the Great lake region.Listen to Mpundu’s hate speech that could not spare the dead Mwanawasa.Let anyone with issues deemed criminal with the politician William Banda report it to the police or initiate legal recourse. What is it that William has said, to whom and when? Someone sober enough bring it here so that we can look at it.What is it that he has said and to whom?
The threat to national peace is not political fire brand William Banda but those tribalist Mpundu, Bwalya, Kabanda, Sata and Mwewa who are sponsoring arsonists and taking pride in the anarchy that ensured in Zaire and the Great lake region.Listen to Mpundu’s hate speech that could not spare the dead Mwanawasa.Let anyone with issues deemed criminal with the politician William Banda report it to the police or initiate legal recourse. What is it that William has said, to whom and when? Someone sober enough bring it here so that we can look at it.What is it that he has said and to whom?
What is it that William has said, to whom and when? Someone sober enough bring it here so that we can look at it.What is it that he has said and to whom?
Kapita like embattled Convicted Sata are dead scared that William Banda as a grassroot political organizer has left the opposition into political shells in Lusaka.There is no one who understands Lusaka grassroot politics like William Banda a fact raising BP on the fragile clogged heart of Sata.William is the founder of Mtendere, Chazanga, Matero, Bauleni, Kanyama, Balastone, Chunga, Chaisa, Chipata Compound, Ng’ombe and Ngwerere Grassroot politics.
Sata knows that with massive resources, logistical support and structures, William is to dangerous for theoretical politicians to thrive where William is in action.By mid 2011 there will be no opposition in Lusaka except in the Post Editorials and mouth of these losers missled oppositing political cadres
Isn’t this William Banda character the one who once was reported to have said he is ready to kill anyone talking ill of the Mwanawasa legacy? Thus, Im not surprised.
For those with short memories, find ““I can tell you, no one can talk against president Mwanawasa to me. Either I will kill him or I will hate him up to death. I can do that to anybody who insults president Mwanawasa for no apparent reason. I would be the most angered person myself because to me he is a humanist who thought about others,” Banda said” in the POST Newspaper’s Wed Feb 24, 2010 edition entitled “William Banda threatens to kill anybody insulting Levy“.
Have a blessed day all.
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Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be…
I’ve complained against Mwata too
This Kabanda is bululu of SATANA who has tried all sorts tricks to sell his thug to the voters ,i remember a few years ago he would board a bus going to CB and start addressing passengers about SATANA ,i personally called him to order because his thuggary master did not pay for my ride and therefore i ordered him to shout up at once and the other passengers clapped for me in appreciation.To hell with tribalist confusionists .YOU SHALL NEVER RULE ZAMBIA PERIOD!
Its no surpring that just one weekend fundraing function organized by William Banda, his Lusaka MMD province raise ZK 1.3 billion
Leave mwata alone ,this not a PF forum.
Take him to the police? Which police? He is talking like this because he knows as MMD no policeman dare touch him. Lets just wait for 2011
# 29YAYA Just shows how shallow you are. Kabanda is not just found in Northern Province. There are Tongas and Lundas/Luvales called by that name.
Mwata
There your answer to your querry on #24 from Maestro @ #27
now base your debate on that issue
PF cadres start your own blog where you will be insulting around the clock. be rest assured that no patriotic Zambian will ever visit your blog. Start your and its very easy.I can give you 1 or 3 PF blogs that started, have failed to thrive or hardly 4 months on they have turned to —–
Did William threaten anyone and if he did, who is that one? Has anyone been threatened and reported to the police? Whom does that affect that hates dead Mwanawasa in his grave? Give me a person that can stand today and say i’m under clesar and present danger because i hate Mwanawasa?
“Can 4 other bloggers please complain about Mwata’s comments so that they can be removed. I have complained already. Mwata dont misuse your freedom of speech “
Oh Wow…whatever happened to freedom of speech? I think by now everyone has noticed that the PF leader Mr. Michael Sata is very inconsistent but now I am seeing this spreading to his cadres and sympathizers. This is not a PF blog. Mwata has not broken the Lusaka Times comments policy which is at the top for everyone to see. It seems some bloggers believe freedom of speech only applies when it is in favor of the PF. Let Mwata post whatever he wants as long as it does not go against the LT comments policy. Why are you trying to shut him up?
1. Zambia: Supreme Court; 14TH JULY AND 25TH OCTOBER, 1994
Banda v Chief Immigration Officer and Another (S.C.Z. Judgment No. 16 of 1994)
BWEUPE, D.C.J., CHAILA AND MUZYAMBA, JJ.S.
Held:
………we hold that the learned trial judge was correct on the evidence before him, to declare and hold that the petitioner is not a Zambian; ……………..The appellant deliberately lied about his father, mother, brothers, sisters and place of birth. He has failed to prove that he was born in Zambia while the investigations carried out by the state against him showed that his parents came from Nkono village, Nkota kota in Malawi…..
Appeal dismissed with costs.
“Speaking in an interview with Qfm in Lusaka, Mr. Banda challenged the UPND vice president to take him to police if he had proof concerning the allegations.”
Yes, I would also like the UPND VP to provide some evidence. The least the UPND VP can tell us is what Mr. W Banda said, where Mr. W Banda said it, when Mr. W Banda said it and to whom Mr. Banda said it to. That can be a start.
Those defending william banda, you neva said anything regarding his silly comments during mmd card renewal at mulungushi and the comments of the president’s son Andrew Banda thereafter? What is your comment on the K445 billion unretired imprest? It is true william banda will kill if anyone speaks ill of late LPM because he is the one (LPM) who allowed him to come back from Malawi.willam is a thug through and through.
I think late Mwanawasa made a mistake to bring back this criminal William Banda. We will deport back to Malawi come 2011. The chap does not even understand democracy, he just talks nonsense. He even threatens Ministers. can you imagine?
#37 I support you. ladies and Gentlemen, Freedom of speech is not to allow only one side of the issues. we need both sides. So Mwata rights to speak out his opinions. Our Democracy shall be measured based on our tolerance for each other’s views. No insults, no hurt but progressive views and accepting the voter outcome. The winner carries the day and we applause. Not when you loose elections it was rigged, ECZ, the rain and so on. The same with the Judiaciary; when one wins the case, our judges are fair and firm, they protect us. But when one losses, they are realtives to so and so and they are under so and so pay role. So, let mwata speak just like any one of us. He has got the right. LT leave him
Well, William Banda is untouchable and fits well in the current UNIP style government. They need his dirty services during the campaigns.
#41 Thanx for your observations. As for #39 Capitalist and 36 Mwata, I feel sorry for you that you dont seem to know what charector William Banda is capable of. I dont how old you are, but let me tell you two that this guy assaulted a former Vice President of this country at Kamwala shopping centre just because this VP had differed with Kennet Kaunda who also happens to come from Malawi. Its not that people are PF or what ever that they are complaining against this chap. By the way you two have admitted without realising it that LT is MMD sponsored. But we shall continue using it to advuse your rotten party( Iam a district founding member of MMD).
@ #44 Deja Vu
What does Mr. W Banda assaulting a former VP have to do with my request for some simple evidence. All I want is to know what Mr. W Banda said, where Mr. W Banda said it, when Mr. W Banda said it and to whom Mr. Banda said it to. The man (Mr. W Banda) has said he did not make such a statement and so the burden of proof falls on the UPND VP. If Mr. W Banda really did say these things then it should be hard for the UPND VP to asnwer my questions.
“By the way you two have admitted without realising it that LT is MMD sponsored”
Prove it. Prove I have “admitted” that LT is MMD sponsored as you have accused me of.
on #45
should read If Mr. W Banda really did say these things then it shouldn’t be hard for the UPND VP to answer my questions.
W. Banda is not to be trusted by any sane person.
#45 Mr Capitalist Maestro for once seems to have his head where it should be and has cited the Post article above
#45 Mr. Capitalist says:
am@ #44 Deja Vu- You make me laugh. You guys have been yapping about some fictious Sata is alleged to have committed in the 20th Centuary and want to use it to bar him from his right to stand for political office.And ask me what W. Banda’s beating up Mr. Kapwepwe our Vice President got to do with what Banda is accused of? As LT/MMD sponsorship, you said it yourself when you aske the so called PF members to creat their own blog. What does that imply. Please do not be emotional even on simple and straight forward matters.
anyway ba LT chinja topic pliz I feel like RB |-)
am told RB will be travelling to Bhutan next week before heading for a 365 day state visit to Chechnya
33, but this particular one is bemba.
Mwata, please take you MMD views elsewhere! Here in the UK, we can say anything you want about the failure of your PM snd not get Jailed!
So who is this Banda chap?
Leave William Banda alone. He is trying his level best to put Zambia in shape!
LT: Please REMOVE MWATA!
Mr. Capitalist says:
March 22, 2010 at 9:58 am“Can 4 other bloggers please complain about Mwata’s comments so that they can be removed. I have complained already. Mwata dont misuse your freedom of speech “
#54 WHAT LEVEL BEST. wb IS A HOOLGAN FROM UNIP DAYS.HE HARRASED MAGANDE AN INTELLECTUAL WHO CAN BRING STABILTY IN ZAMBIA AND SUPPORT SAVAGE. AKANWA KAMOKENE SAYS SATA IS A SAVAGE AT THE SAME TIME YOU CANONISE A RE SAVAGE CALLED WILLIAM BANDA. CICO- THIS WB BEAT UP A VICE PRESIDENT IN UNIP DAYS BECAUSE THIS VP HAD DIFFERED WITH THE PRESIDENT KK
I was extremely appalled to read some ministers’ comments on what this man said at the card renewal exercise. One minister compared RB to God, and his son Andrew to Jesus! And another one says they must be loyal to RB like dogs are loyal to their masters? Seriously? These are the people we have advising the president? Why are we employing people who will just obey what the president says without an opinion of their own? Ministers are not appointed to just be yes men, otherwise we wouldn’t need them. Shame on RB and his cabinet!
Mr Kapika, surely you cannot be that ridiculous even if we know that WB has caused some anguish in the opposition with all those defections of your members. Panic in the opposition!
the great mwanawasa is the one that brought william banda back hoping he would nail chiluba but instead william banda reconciled with FTJ. the people who were actually behind his deportation are the same people now championing sata and PF. It was sata who reported william banda to FTJ and got him deported on fake grounds because sata is scared stiff of him thats why he sent the little fool kapita to speak out. lusaka is now 100% MMD
@Mwata
You are wasting my bandwidth (I pay per the byte) as well as contributing to global warming by needlessly transmitting electrons around the globe. Mister, why don’t you write a book?
…pay per byte…
Leave William Banda alone.Are you scared of losing ground in Lusaka Province?Sata thought He had it all in Lusaka.
Stick to the Story,W. Banda has refuted allegations that he has been threatening to kill those not supporting MMD. Why are you twisting the story in your comments to appear as though He actually said that.
Grow up and stop un neccesary spreading of hate Massages- its a Sin to God. be honest even in your pollitical support
@58 the chap declared he would do it. why are you scared. kapika is just commenting on something that was published in the Post.
#63 so every one who refutes a story is not guilty ka? wonder how MCS has been found to be a convicted criminal when he has also refuted claims that he was arrested and convicted sometime before independence. Dont play double standards now you see its hitting you in the face. You claim you are non vilent chaps now your provincial chairman has shown us what you are made of. Before it was the Youth chairman threatening rape. Actually its not even Kaptia claiming he threatened to kill.it was in the Post and if the man feels agreaved by that story he can use the law to make the record straight. as things stand, we know he is the savage he has always been,and he is the provincial chairperson for LSK. shame on you guys
William Banda speaks to MMD members, including Ministers like he talking to people without heads or rather people a lot younger than him. To me his rhetoric during the MMD card renewal is unfortunate and divisive. That was not even a show of courage but that of vengeance. Such a speech would be tolerated only by a dictator. It was a speech to threaten those that hold different views to Mr Banda and therefore plan to challenge him at the convention. President Banda’s son saw William’s speech as a divisive and took the courage to speak out. But some Zambians on this blog for whatever reason defend William and take him as a model of a democratic leader. What a shame!! Condemn what deserves condemnation and otherwise. Peace should be something every Zambian should be ready to die for!
#63 2011 HERE WE COME AGAIN- You are shielding a known asaulter of innocent people just because he is in your camp. No wonder you accepted Sata when he was in MMD. You will accept anything including prpstitutes in MMD as long as they are with you.
bUCK fANDA…..
@67 you see now they try to defend any nonsense that comes their way. their party is confused. where is mr Mulongoti if i may ask?
Which police can we report William Banda to. We all know the Inspector General of Police is answerable to William Banda. Just like all the ministers, including the minister of home affairs (internal security) is answerable to William Banda.
This baboon should be deported back to Nyasaland.
Kwena this opposition in Zambia, can’t they find something useful to do with their time? If you are the alternative government please show us that you are above this r.u.b.b.i.s.h. Especially you guys in UPND, I was just beginning to think positively about you after seeing what I thought was a golden silence by you during the on-going Sata/Telesphore debacle. Now this Kapita guy spoils everything. PACT and all your supporters on this blog, surely you are panicking at the hands of an old man, William Banda! Iyo, iyo 2011!!!!!
By the way guys, did Sata actually apologise for his statement on Levy’s alleged PR gimmick? If so where was it reported?
They say, do not argue with a fool otherwise people will not notice the difference. So in this case Richard Kapika is saying that UPND is no different from William Banda. Then what alternative are you opposition offering us Zambians? What is the difference between Sata and William Banda? If you cannot give Zambian voters a better alternative to Sata and baby Sata HH, then you can kiss 2011 good bye, but this is a foregone conclusion anyway.
The bembas have met their match.
“As LT/MMD sponsorship, you said it yourself when you aske the so called PF members to creat their own blog. What does that imply. Please do not be emotional even on simple and straight forward matters. “
8-| And where have I asked the PF members to create their own blog? Copy my statement where I said this and paste it here.
“You guys have been yapping about some fictious Sata is alleged to have committed in the 20th Centuary and want to use it to bar him from his right to stand for political office.”
I have also not been yapping about this. That is a lie.
As for Mr. W Banda, my questions have not yet been answered. If you want to answer my questions, they are on post #39.
Ba LT this posting has been there since morning, dont you have any thing else to post. Pantu twatendwa. We are sick and tired of looking at this creep William Banda. He just want to make me throw up. LT can you sharpen your skills, you guys are supposed to be giving us up dates and breaking news. Wake LT
To those who are doubting the criminal activities of William Banda and his friend Chinula (dead). This man William Banda slapped Mr Chikoti (Former President of ZUFIAW) during a ZUFIAW strike such that Mr. Chikoti up tp now cannot hear on his left side. This man is a danger to MMD, to Nation and for sure to himself.
Imwe bangwele asking for evidence, so you want this brainless ignorant villager to kill first, then you will agree that this man is a danger to our nation? Do you really think this man will acknowledge having uttered those words? Who is more believable, Kapita or this Vigilante in the name of Banda?
William Banda leave Zambian politics to Zambians. Take yuor stone age politics to malawi!!!!
Who said UNIP and vigilantees were gone for good? Well, they are back!
The first thing the PF/UPND Pact should do after winning elections next year is to redeport this kaponya called William Banda to Malawi. He is a danger to Zambian peace.
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