MMD chairperson for Communications and Transport Peter Daka has said it was not obligatory and a must for Chief Justice Ernest Sakala to have shaken hands with Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata.
Mr Daka who is also Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister said every person by virtue of being a human had rights and Mr Justice Sakala had personal rights whether to shake hands with people or not because it was not compulsory.
In an interview yesterday, Mr Daka said Mr Sata should know that Mr Justice Sakala was obliged to accept his personal choice and his refusal to shake hands with him was a personal decision that should not be politicised.
“Chief Justice Sakala has personal rights whether he should greet people or not because it depends on what he wants based on his individual capacity and why should Mr Sata politicise the whole issue.
“He should stop making politics whenever he goes for funerals and should have respect for everybody,” Mr Daka said.
Mr Sata should know that Mr Justice Sakala was a respectable person in the country because of his high integrity and he should desist from dragging him into cheap politics.
He said it was time Mr Sata thought of retiring from active politics instead of attacking high ranked officials for no apparent reasons and always wanting to gain political mileage whenever he went for a funeral.
And former Patriotic Front (PF) secretary general Edward Mumbi has accused the PF/UPND Pact of conspiring with The Post to instill fear in judges and neutralise the independence of the Judiciary.
Mr Mumbi said in a statement yesterday that it was immoral to attack people who could not defend themselves.
He was also commenting on the story that the chief justice refused to shake hands with Mr Sata.
He said objective people could read through a conspiracy by the pact and The Post to discredit the chief justice because his refusal to greet anyone was not newsworthy.
“People will soon see discredited people who will be used to discredit the judiciary. These criticisms are merely serving selfish political ends for leaders in the PF/UPND Pact,” he said.
He said the PF/UPND Pact was planning to disturb the Judiciary as Zambia approaches elections because there was a plan to defame people and engage in violence, which would attract litigation.
President Banda said to justify the conspiracy, The Post had even gone to an extent of publishing a picture of former president Frederick Chiluba shaking hands with Mr Justice Sakala, which had nothing to do with the case at hand.
He said when former Kasama MP Saviour Chishimba petitioned Mr Sata’s presidential candidature, Mr Justice Sakala was still the chief justice and the courts allowed him to contest.
The PF leader recently won another case in the courts and he praised the courts for their independence but because of his inconsistency he had now changed.
And a Lusaka lawyer Christopher Mundia said the encounter between Mr Justice Sakala and Mr Sata did not warrant political insinuations because the two were traditional cousins.
“I have known the current chief justice for many years having worked with him closely in the national group and do not believe that he intended to offend Mr Sata but purely a light moment between the two cousins as Bembas and Ngonis have always joked at many funerals,” he said.
Mr Mundia said to use the encounter to embarrass the chief justice was unfortunate because political hatred brewing in the country could later explode to unimaginable magnitude.
Although the incident happened at a funeral, the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) should do everything possible to defend the Judiciary.
He said the chief justice did not mean to offend Mr Sata but it was just a light moment between the two traditional cousins.
Are you the CJs spokes person? Ba Unip in MMD are useless
The Chief Justice must not be a carder or a thief Justice or Chief Injustice. Can you understand the line between a chief Justice and a carder. This man does not deserve his job. Education and experience has failed to educate him.
You can tell from his tone that CJ is an MMD cadre, very soon will replace William Banda.
Daka has spoken the truth.The behaviour of Sata at the funeral was unacceptable.No cultured person anywhere in the world will go at the funeral and demand to have handshakes to whoever is present,Sata is a disgrace and will humiliate us on international visits cos of his lack of etiquette.Thank God he will just do his Malabishi in Zed and entertain his followers.
chi daka ichimukoshi ch****la . You mean as per tradition you have to greet people you find?
Why do you fool make malicious comments. grow up!
They is time for everything,time to mourning,time for laughing,time to born,time to die
etc
Ba Sata takes things always “mucimbuya and kulibonesha ta” and try to attract attention of his presences.This was good for him(Sata), gain political mileage whenever he went for a funeral.
Chief Justice Ernest Sakala was clinically right not to shake hands with Mr. Sata.We are always advised not to shake hands at big gatherings incase of diseases.It is a well known fact.
What is so special to shake hands?”hello” is enough without shaking hands.Period.
Iwe Sharp shooter #4, Shut up!! You dont know what you are saying. Though it is not possible to practically greet everyone at the funeral, the Zambian culture demands that when you get to the funeral house or service for that matter, especially of a close relative or important person, it is important to greet people as a sign of expressing your condolences and that you mourning with them. So what Sata did was Zambianly right because the “Thief Justice” was seated in front and in this case was regarded more like THE CHIEF MOURNER since the deceased was a key member of his team in the judiciary. You see!! You sound like those people who just go to funereal to drink tea and eat nshima without showing remorse to mourners.
Iwe Sharp shooter #4, Shut up!! You dont know what you are saying. Though it is not possible to practically greet everyone at the funeral, the Zambian culture demands that when you get to the funeral house or service for that matter, especially of a close relative or important person, it is important to greet people as a sign of expressing your condolences and that you mourning with them. So what Sata did was Zambianly right because the “Thief Justice” was seated in front and in this case was regarded more like THE CHIEF MOURNER since the deceased was a key member of his team in the judiciary. You see!!
Sata could have been at fault but the CJ shot himself in the foot. As Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s chief of staff, said of BP’s CEO Tom Hayward when he said he wanted his life back, the CJ will never get another lesson in PR. A handshake does not hurt baba. In this whole saga, people’s sympathy will favour Sata. The CJ just showed how arrogant he is even towards people of his equal status. Ask yourself how treats the low of the low.
why is sata such an excited old man, he loves attension especially CAMERA from his PA, Convicted Fred Membe.
This is the Second time he is getting a shoot in the face, last time it was at Mwanawasa funeral in Chipata were Mrs M chased him away.
If this man becomes president, he will embarrass himself at the UN General Meeting were he will want to great, USA president, but he will be stopped by the CIA
This(SATA),Jack of all Trades and master of none, wants to bulldoze everyone as he does in PF. Even when he was not greeted by several people or some chose to ignore him totally, Mr. Sata went about repeatedly visiting these benches. At one time, he came to these benches loudly calling and asking “where is Chalwe Mchenga?” he kept on calling for the DPP demanding that he needs to know Mchenga as he is the only lawyer he doesn’t know personally.Sata wanted to settle his political scores
why did Mrs Mwanawasa refuse to shake Sata’s hand at her husband’s memorial service?
why did Chief Justice Ernest Sakala refuse to shake hands with PF leader Michael Sata?
Do not be surprised next time if Dr.Chiluba or however,refuses to shake hands with PF leader Michael Sata.Sata is a sour grape.He does not learn.Once beaten twice shy.
Hate him or love him , Sata is a factor in the Zambian politics.The problem we have is that , we are dealing with a very gifted people who at least cannot not be bought and always stands his ground! He would rather go to court and defend himself than pleading for mercy or becoming gravely ill to avoid justice! I miss our late President for his honesty and his ability to admit short comings, the CJ errored and ba Daka should keep quite!
Comedy at it’s best,Sata will not stop amazing Zambians.I expect a radical change in Mr.Sata towards his behaviour,that photo speaks big volumes,everyone was sitted and deeply touched by the lose our beloved one.
Let Mr.Sata listen to that song,the song goes,”icimbuya mulecicifyeko kumalilo”.
#14
This is a man you call is a factor in Zambian polictics,you have missed it all.
Let your PF leader Michael Sata to set a precedence by going to apologise to the chiefs he insulted “I will put up electricity if you vote me as president”,sata said.”mukaletina bwino inda ubushiku”,this is a big insult,Sata should tone down his language.PF can see it as right thing coming from their HERO.Shame upon you.Put your house(PF) inorder.Remove a big log in your eye,before attemping to remove a small log in your friend’s eye.
IN PF SATA has become a GOD, PF cadres are literally worshiping him, They are ready to defend all his wrong doings ( including adultery) with their lives. DONT YOU THINK IS Funny. Man worshiping Man
I am happy I have neva become a FOLLOWER of SATA 666 IWE!!!!!!
“Umu Bemba tatekwa”,”No tribe can rule a Bemba in Zambia”.Sata said.As far as lam concern all tribes are equall in Zambia,but Sata wants to promote tribalism.Go back to the pass history of Sata’s statements,believe me you, can not dire him to be a President.
Satas hands are too dirty . . .mamina too much
#8(Mwinewmushi)
Wakulila kwisa? Are you telling me it Zambian culture to enter the church where a funeral service is being held and start handshaking everybody(not a hello) before even body viewing is done? You name says it all.No further comment.
“kulibone shata”. makes Sata a laughing stock.”Icimbuya kumalilo”.Once beaten twice shy.Sata’s mouth piece (Given Lubinda) was equally embarassed by his boss’s behaviour.
#11
Thats true etiquette tabakwata ba Sata.At the UN General Assembly he will be on rampage greeting every president and the response from the security personel will shame Zambia and impress his followers just like he did on VOA with Shaka.
It is such a disgrace for Daka to make such comments. Where is culture, respect gone. For god sake it was a funeral and in church. chief justice should have left his madness at home. It is true that chief justice is an mmd cader as it shows how is beeing supported by people like Daka. Two wrongs do not make a right. So Daka, i hope you hold on to your position for supporting a dying horse like Sakala. No position is permanent.
It is folly for anyone to come in defence of Justice Sakala,they should accept in their hearts that he cocked up and remain mute,he,Justice Sakala should be ashamed of himself. We all have rights as human being but people who hold certain positions in society should conduct themselves in a decent way if they are to preserve their integrity and that of the office they hold. Yes Sata is naive by trying to steal the limelight but there’s absolutely nothing wrong in shaking hands with him if at all Justice Sakala realised that Sata was being insensitive and could have chosen another time to do his greetings so irrespective of Sata’s naivety,Justice Sakala cocked up and am sure he feels bad.
What sense can a grown up man who uses Jalibu (Skin lighting Cream) say.you are useless Daka,Jalibu has gotten to your brains now.Ernest Sakala is not Chief Justice for Mhat a shame,Lord please help us,we are tired please Lord.
Who do you think can easily want to shake the iron hand of King Cobra?
#19
You have made me burst in to tears,have a nice day.
Emotional, scared and childish chief injustice.
Sata has touched many Women or is it women of the night or prostitutes ( records are their to be see). In moses times somebody who touches anything unclean becomes unclean too………….
Iwe chi DAKA pamenso. Mweba kuchipata mulifi puba sana, how can you get chishikwapwasha’s job. You mean you dont go to funeral houses? Are you ZAmbian or what? Greeting does not cost anything….. mamabala
No. 4 whats wrong with a hand shake at a funeral service??? And No. 16, the only reason why Ba Sata insulted some of those chiefs is because they behave like MMD cadres just like this foolish man the chief Justice. If only these people can stay away from politics.The problem is people like the Chief Justice, Police Inspector General and others are are not independent aznd thats why they keep licking the president’s ass because they know that he is the appointing authority.
listen to this ” The only reason why BA sata…….
iwe # 20….There is no written protocol regarding greeting at funeral in Zambia…..whether at home or in church ok. Where is written that you only greet pple after body viewing? You name too says its all. Stop behaving like you know something?
Very suprising, the Chief Justice’s behaviour was shameful. In our culture if someone extends a hand to greet you we respond accordingly so Sata was not wrong but the CJ clearly showed how political he is taking things. Just greet him despite the differences. Thats the problem i have with our country when you DIFFER in opinions it means you are enemies, grow up. I think the behavior is childish period. This concept of his hands are dirty or whatever is b-ull-s-h-i-t. Mukazigula ma sanitizer or simply go and wash your hands later. Stop wasting time arguing about shaking hands there are far more important things to be debating on than a handshake which common sense tells us to respond too when extended unless you want to behave like a child. Shame on our leaders.. so Petty , yaba
#33
Defination of etiquette: Rules of acceptable behavior: the rules and conventions governing correct or polite behavior in society in general or in a specific social or professional group or situation
They dont have to be written but known.Does Sata ha one? the behaviour speaks the opposite and my concern is that he is aspiring for the Presidency of Zambia,so he needs to know.Iam not behaving like I know something like you have put it but simply pointing out the unacceptable behaviour of him at the funeral.
If the chief justice was white, his behavior would have qualified him to be called a racist……but now that he is black and Zambia, he qualifies to be called a tribalist.
Daka, skin bleaching is a recipe for cancer.You have been warned!
such kind of behavior by the CJ is based on tribal lines, I wonder if ever our nation will change 4 the better.[-([-([-([-([-([-(…..Ambuye Mutimvele,
Muletekanya bane. Sata is clever. For sure us bemba’s have to rule the country for change to be there. Ka chiluba made a mistake to pick up Mwanawasa and again mwanawasa made another mistake to pick up Banda as his vice and subsequently as a president. Mweba ku mawa mulifipuba sana no wonder you cant rule. Loook what RB has done tribalism every where but us bemba’s we do balanse sikota wina, Elijar mudenda, Lewis changufu, kapasa makasa, Humprey mulemba, Humprey Hapunda, kebby musokotwane the list is endless.
#39
What do you mean and i quote “For sure us bemba’s have to rule the country for change to be there”.
Stop this nosense!
I feel Ba Sata has got nothing better to offer for this country, hez bussy just fault finding, WHAT a leader? shame, Hez just too selfish, how can you wait to become a president then YOU CAN SPEAK SENSE. His very chedish in the mask of the elderly man. Change Mr. Sata there is no God in you.
#39 any Zambian has the right to be president.You need to get that right inyour head.Zambia has 73 tribes including dialects.It is the kind of thiking like yours which will keep us backwards.
@ 4, 7 and anyone who thinks like them.Guys do not embarrass us. Your mothers and fathers back home shake hands with everyone they meet. Manje just because you are out of Zambia you are now thinking your elders are s-t-u-p-i-d? Anyway thanks to the West that has managed to wash away your Zambian traditional values.
#22 I believe where you come from there are norms and customs that people follow. I doubt whether you have such norms or customs or they are just lost in UK. Whenever, you go to the funeral it a norm to greet those who are there before you as a sign of respect regardless of your differences. If Sata has not greeted CJ it would have been another story. People like Mumbi cannot survive without politics of poverty and if we recall Mumbi was sent to SA to monitor the printing of Ballot papers he never reported anything to PF and all what they saw was Mumbi with a brand new Benz which he can’t afford to buy. Equally he became arrogant. Bembas and Ngonis are tribal cousins and what has happened will not make any difference. Daka needs to show patience and to choose words for his cousin Sata.
Iwe 41, Leave God out of this. Kwati niwe wakwata Lesa. Just recall what you did last night….
Hey guys, the CJ refused to greet Sata because Sata had just come from using the toilet. Ha ha ha ha . Dont kill me, I m just joking.
Now, in terms of the opposition’s vision of the future of Zambia…………… Can we get back to discuss real issues about reducing poverty and not dwell on greetings that did not take place kumalilo ya ba pa mwamba? I think it is telling that people assume that Sata will be running for president in the next election, what about the pact? Where is HH and what is his stance on the draft constitution?
SATA got what he deserved, we are sick and tired of comedians.
What is so special about shaking hands that Sata and his followers are so histeerical about? The problem with Sata is he believes too much in voodoo. Maybe he had some charms in his paw that he wanted to smear on the CJ! It just shows how petty this fellow is. If he became President and went to the UN he will return with complaints that Obama and Cameron refused to shake his paw!
Ba mudala basata,”ukufwakapula” so not too long from this incidence,”balafwakapula futi”,”nafunafuti,”
Still doing comedy at that age.
Considering the fact that there were four serious and infectious diseases that were found inside Sata, in addition to the many foolish and unfounded allegations he has for years been levelling against not only Sakala but also other judges, I would have been shocked to see him shaking hands with mambala Zondwe Satana. By the way, why is it that every high profile funeral Sata hears of, including those of adent enemies, ni kakulu munshila ku manda, why? Awe sure Satana, ubuloshi uleke that’s why people are refusing to shake your hands that touched a chief’s kalukobo!
#51 Mwani sekesa ati ‘ni kakulu munshila ku manda’!:))
Atase fi MMD! I we chi Chief injustice … we’ll see who will be your next president!:d
all the *****s like mundia,mumbi and daka are fools..they are just opportunitists..
#11 and all those who agree with him/her. The CIA part of the US president’s security detail? Now, who is ignorant, you or Sata? You are embarrassing us before you even step into the limelight with your ignorance.
And for your information, greeting your counterparts at the UN is encouraged, if you can run into them. You should know that when a president comes to the US regardless of what small country he/she hails from, the US provides security in addition to that country’s own. Stop talking about things you little about just because you hate Sata!
Rubbish! The CJ has not talked about the incidence and every Jim and jack trying to defend him is doing so under ignorance. The point is that he has the right not to greet other people and to disassociate himself from certain people. Until he speaks out about his reasons for not wanting to shake hands or greet MS, the whole talk is rhetoric and useless!
#56
The Jackal – I tend to agree with you. By the way has Sata himself complained or said something on the incidence. If not why are we all barking out so loud when the concerned persons are not worried.
even if the CJ did not shake Sata’s hand because Sata is clearly a riff-ruff and shaking his hand would elevate Sata to someone with real potential to lead our nation I think the CJ was suppose to keep his personal feelings to himself. as hard as that may be I try to do so myself.
the CJ has NO right not to PUBLICLY DISCRIMINATE people (as some bloggers seem to suggest) but HAS a duty to DISSOCIATE himself from people of doubtfull standing in society. it is very easy for discrimination and dissociating himself to be confused WHICH makes it very important for the CJ to give his reasons for not wanting to shake hands with MS. IF HE DISCRIMINATES HE IS NOT FIT FOR OFFICE. IF HE MIXES WITH WRONG CHAPS IT IS WORSE. PLEASE EXPLAIN.
People from “Chipata” amaze me! They always want to bootlick even when they are educated and are independent. They always want and to stick to positions at whatever cost. I find them very strange. Look at people like bene Rupiah, Daka, Dora, Enerst Sakala etc. They will do anything to stick to positions – sad indeed.
#24 JIGGA, well said! The problem most Zambians have, once in some office, is the failure to distinguish between the person and the office. There are certain obligations offices impose that their bearers must always fulfil regardless of how they personally feel about it, if they are to execute their functions as expected! At that funeral, Mr. Sakala bore the office of Chief Justice, and it certainly was incumbent upon him to behave civilly and professionally to all those who came to mourn.
Peter Daka, and all those emotionally and politically supporting Mr. Sakala’s behaviour are missing the vital point, therefore.
Bullshit, foolish. Now Peter Daka the Ambi applying Minister has become disgraced Chief Justice’s spokesperson. Chi-mundia there was nothing like Easterners and Bemba cousinship in Sakala’s behaviour. You are the last person to teach us on cousinship!!!The Chief Justice must practice party-less politics because he is the custodian of the laws of Zambia. He just proved our suspiction that he has been heavily politicised and become a cadre now. So he is in our firing line polictically as he has become a political animal, our competitor fullstop!!!!!!!! He is very comfortable with Chiluba a convict that straight people. Ata
The Chief Juastice whereever he is or goes carried the stature of his Office just like a President or any public figure. If he acts a vagabond you cannot say thats his private life. Well the mentioned above want to lead a private life then they should not aspire for public life and be paid tax payers money. Simple logic. If you have a president who marries a toddler, you cannot say thats his personnal life. We shall talk about abuse of a minor. Full stop!!!