Zambians risk plunging the country into a dictatorial and failed State if they make a “wrong choice of voting for undemocratic” Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata in next year’s general elections, the Global Justice Zambia has warned.
Advocacy campaign manager, Samson Zulu said Zambians would be shooting themselves in the foot if they elected Mr Sata who had already shown that he was a dictator by refusing to go for the party convention.
[pullquote]“It is a vote that has power to reject such people. From the time he formed the party they have failed to go for a convention and Zambians should not be shocked when they hear that there will be no more elections if they vote for Mr Sata,” he said.[/pullquote]
Mr Zulu said in an interview during the week that with the resumption of the continuous voters’ registration exercise by the Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ), time had come for Zambians to reject Mr Sata and his ally through a vote next year.
“It is a vote that has power to reject such people. From the time he formed the party they have failed to go for a convention and Zambians should not be shocked when they hear that there will be no more elections if they vote for Mr Sata,” he said.
He said the PF president was a danger to democracy as well as the peace the country was currently enjoying and might scrap out elections if he was given an opportunity to rule in 2011.
Mr Zulu said it was not a secret that Mr Sata had exhibited lack of respect and compassion to others, especially his political opponents whom he had continued to insult and issuing derogatory statements against them through the media.
Mr Zulu, however, commended the ECZ for resuming the exercise and urged all eligible citizens to register and vote in numbers when the time comes.
Meanwhile, Mr Zulu has called on the general public to scrutinise the recently released Draft Constitution and make necessary comments that would help make up an appropriate document.
Mr Zulu said the Draft Constitution was an important document that affected every citizen and should be treated with the seriousness it deserved for it to be of great value to the Zambian people.
[ Times of Zambia ]
There you go ba LT, politics again. Surely dont you have better stories?
We shall not allow this ***** to become president.
Yes, SATA is a reject. UNZA students used to refuse him to adress then for Kaponya mind. He has no diplomacy. Even Chief Justice now snubs him. But the question is why are pipo like SATA still a force in Zed politics? Its becoz of mediocry & no-thinking leaders like BANDA. This is one leader with no clue. He is Dalo. Thats it! Chiluba was a comedian & thief. So were does Zambia go? To pipo like SATA. Not that they are better, they will be worse. But the SATA will never b president. They will rig. VJ is now coming as National Secretary to do just that. So Zambians are stuck with BANDA. SATA & BANDA should be long retired by now. HH is only popular i n Southern Province. Miyanda is in oblivion. Gen Tembo is dead. Nawakwi retired on a party sit. So Zed stuck. Noisy pipo like Mmembe, to jail.
:d There is an element of truth in what Mr. Zulu is saying.
Its like anybody-literally anybody even from the streets-is assured of Times space as long as the statement they issue is anti Sata.Yellow journalism in its advanced stage!
What’s the point of voting if we all know that even if we want to give Sata a chance MMD will win, they have VJ. we still dont have democracy. how can we be getting 1.2 m per month when our needs are more than 2m? Departments like forestry have not been restructured, degree, diploma & certificate holders can get same salary. Pipo just work because they have no options so whats the point of voting. salary increaments have never had an impact on us bcoz everytime they are effected, commodity prices also shoot up. Why should i even vote, why, why?!!!
Indeed Satan is wrong chap 4 plot 1.The crap is missed call.Very hopeless old man.!
Our Zambian leaders are all underpinned by scandals…yet we keep putting them back in office. Sata might not be the ideal candidate but then again what choices do we have? We need change of leadership but we do not have any credible leaders…huge dilema! What next? Look VJ….scandal after scandal yet he bounces back even harder. What are we doing…?
Who are you to tell us who to vote for? Are you God or what? Zambia has a constitution and the office of the president is an institution governed by laws and if Sata as a person has dictatorial characteristics then the office as an institution will not allow for that unless we Zambians chose to change those laws. The truth is that every normal person has dictatorial characteristics and its only because of of the system in place that people are forced to give up power. Look at KK, Look at Chiluba with his third term, Look at Mwanawasa even when his health was not good he wanted to stay on blocking everyone from challenging him at the convertion, Look at RB him too does not want to be challenged.
How is he a threat? the guy jst goes around greeting people in churches and at funerals8->8->8->8->
LET THE PEOPLE CHOOSE. YOU ARE NOT THE RIGHT PERSON TO TELL ZAMBIANS WHO TO VOTE FOR. SATA HAS AN EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD OF HARD WORK WHICH I DON’T NEED TO GO THROUGH. SO, WHO IS THE RIGHT PRESIDENT FOR ZAMBIA-RB?
What we need to do as a nation is to put in place a strong institutional framework ans systems that, if we again are f.o.o.l.i.s.h enough to put a plunderer, an incompetent or a mad man in the presidential office, will effectively restrain that person from getting out of hand or doing us mischief. If we manage to do that, that will be half the job done. The other half then will be objective scrutiny of all those aspiring to lead us.
In this task, the constitution is a good place to start. All those able to access, read and understand the draft constitution should scrutinize it and make their submissions.
I agree with Zulu, Sata is upredictable he should retire to gether with Banda. HH is a better placed for plot 1. These two old men dont’ have any new ideas, lets try HH next year.
There is a lot of truth in this article, but coming from “Times of Zambia”, it has lost credibility….
All the policies which were made in the first 10 year rule,you participated fully.People have an archieve of your history,your backed Dr.Chiluba for the third term,22 M.Ps were expelled in MMD because of you(SATA),you remained alone as a senior man in MMD,you were not adopted to stand at MMD ticket and you resorted to form your NOAH PARTY(PABWATO).You are still a bitter man.BaSata is trying everthing at his disposal to find entry to STATE HOUSE.Please my advise you is to rest,you have had your race,and you finished it satisactory or unsatisactory .
On “He [Mr Zulu] said the PF president was a danger to democracy as well as the peace the country was currently enjoying and might scrap out elections if he was given an opportunity to rule in 2011… it was not a secret that Mr Sata had exhibited lack of respect and compassion to others, especially his political opponents whom he had continued to insult and issuing derogatory statements against them through the media,” the above is true for Mr PF unelected leader bullied and sent 22 then Senior MMD members from the 199 -2001 MMD when he was MMD National Secretary and also the 22 or so PF MPs from his PF now as its self-appointed leader without being elected.
It is only nice that the NCC Constitution may bar Mr Sata from being President and Vice President of Zambia.
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Matt…
Ba Mudala BaSata wants a passport to entry to STATE HOUSE as PRESIDENT,he has resorted to drama,see the picture.
And what facking democracy has Ruphiah Banda?The MMD is busy excluding presidential aspirants like Magande and others.There is nothing democratic in the way RB became MMD presidential candidate in 2008! This Global Injustice must just fack off!!
Doomed if we chang! Doomed if we don’t. I would go with the former.
For 27 odd years Zambia had a dictator named Kaunda,but this dictator loved his country.For 20 years Zambia has had so called “democrats” and all we have seen is the increase in unemployment,poverty,illiteracy,crime,homelessness,more deaths due to lack of medicine,increase in number of shanty compounds etc.It is better to have a dictator who works and improves the lives of his people than “democrats” like Chiluba and Ruphia who plunder national resources (sell off companies for a song) and leave citizens more desparate with each passing day.In 27 years despite flaws,KK built: Tazara,Tazama,Indeni,Kafue Gorge Power station,Unza,UTH,ZIT,Several colleges,Schools,even UCZ etc. Tell me what the fack your so called “democrats” have done apart from plunging the nation into dire poverty?
What do you expect from an easterner? Support to his fellow tribes mate. Ba fee Colour
anyway there’s some truth in this article,I for one has this “fobia” for Sata,the old man is so unpredictable moodwise.
Zambia already has all the trappings of a failed state: unabetted corruption; no rule of law; illegal land invasion; constant constitutional reviews; compromised police force; questionable prosecutions; poor service delivery – health, education, roads, drainage, sewer, piped water; unemployment; etc, etc
From any democratic elections this country will ever hold, Sata will never emerge as President of this country. His starts and ends with PF where he has placed an iron fist with allergy for intra-party democracy. A democracy can only be presided by a democrat not an anti-democratic tyranny Sata is.This is a living fact Sata knows this very well hence busy announcing his plans for self exile to Taiwan next year. He is following the foot steps of Chinese surrogate Chiang Kai-shek who with his Kuomintang (KMT) Nationalist party exiled to Taiwan till his death there in 1975 he did not survive from shame of his utopia.
Sata is the right peorson to rule now;; that we have seen the rule of people with out personal drive, I will vote for him, because we have seen his performance he is the most capable person at this time, when the nation is in inetial, manden, no freshness we just need to cross over.
Whats hes name?ZULU.Wako ni Wako.Which newspaper.TIMES OF ZAMBIA.Why waste time on such nonsense.
They have no elections in Dubai and the rest of the United Arab Emirates or in Libya,Qatar,Oman,Bahrain,Saudi Arabia but citizens are well provided for.Who needs elections when we all know the results will be more plunder and gross mismanagement of the country’s resources by a few.We should do away with elections and the damned constitution all together,it has never benefited us.Zambia already operates as a failed state where the clown of a president fiddles with the judiciary,chief justice forgets his role in public,Inspector general of police perpetuates violence in elections like Mufumbwe,MMD cadres threaten anyone at will,the likes of William Banda.Zambia is doomed period.Thank God I left!!
DONORS ARE CONSISTENT RATIONAL ACTORS WITH MORAL OBLIGATION TO COUNTRIES HISTORY HAS THEM INDEBTED TO
The ignorance and lack of strategic reasoning by PF cadres is not only alarming but self revealing and killing any hope of ever having an alternative regime to MMD in the next five years if the apathetic intellectuals don’t stop shunning politics. Look at the PF cluelessness as they struggle with comparative politics for the case of democratic Zambia.
PF kaponyas think multilateral partners are irrational to turn on their commitment on a country just because Sata the embodiment of anti-democratic dictatorship with pro-re-nationalization utopia want Zambians needlessly to scream for perpetually rejecting him on the ballot. It’s clear that PF is a club of circus loonies. They are blank on why Senator Feingold sponsored the enacted “Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act”- ZDERA. Nothing about Zambia qualifies the Zimbabwe case.Zambia is constitutionally a democratic capitalist state. She holds competitive elections every five years with a limit of tenure on the Presidency, has a free market economy with property and investment rights. She neither have re-nationalization clause in the republican constitution nor take over from…
She holds competitive elections every five years with a limit of tenure on the Presidency, has a free market economy with property and investment rights. She neither have re-nationalization clause in the republican constitution nor take over from owners land rights. Zimbabwe’s Mugabe like Sata is a Marxist, has forceful re-nationalization and property grabbing rights, no term limit to his Presidency and anti capitalism.
To think that there is any multilateral democracy willing to risk and shred his money on certified defacto dictator pressing the utopia of re-nationalization agenda against pro-democracy pragmatism is nothing but a delusional theoretical thesis.
Senator Feingold sponsored the enactment of ZDERA which then US assistant secretary of state for African affairs Chester Crocker said was aimed at “making land grabbing socialist Zimbabwe’s economy scream” in order to separate Zimbabweans from Zanu-PF though proven in vain. Then the question is what would drive rational actors in the donor community to squeeze model democratic Zambia and her people? On a daily basis, the country is swelling in local and FDI from all over the world in all sectors of a growing economy?
Just last month Britons invested over US $ 800 million in commercial farming to mention but a few. It is wishful thinking for PF kaponya to think otherwise about the Zambian people they passionately hate. Donors are not usable pawns for losers. They do not act on rubbish calls or a tribal agenda of political jerks that are politically embattled on the democratic ballot.
Zambia practices toilet democracy.So sugar coating it won’t make it smell better,it stinks!Democracy for who?Democracy is meant to bring freedom and prosperity.These two things don’t exist in Zambia where 95% of the people live below the povert datum line on less than a dollar a day.Cows in UK live on 8 pounds a day.Holding fraudulant elections every 5 years is not democracy.if you think Zambia has democracy then you are myopic and probably need your head examined.What Zambia has is a MOCKERY not democracy!
Be wary of anarchists – Vernon Mwaanga
MMD parliamentary chief Whip Vernon Mwaanga has warned Zambians to be wary of politicians who invest in anarchy. Mr Mwaanga said in an interview yesterday that Zambia is where it is as a country because of a stable and nationalistic leadership and progressive policies its citizens have enjoyed so far.
He said any departure from this growth path would be injurious to the wellbeing of a majority of Zambians who are still poor. Mr Mwaanga said voting for some opposition leaders would hurt frontline public services and jeopardise the irreversible economic recovery that has been witnessed under the MMD government.
“I have faith in the people of Zambia to critically examine the disciples of empty rhetoric, gloom and doom and ask them to come up with credible and viable economic alternatives and programmes which will be better than ours,” he said.
Mr Mwaanga said opposition political parties must be more issue-based in their utterances and move away from their childish pattern of personal and trivial attacks on President Banda and the MMD.
Mr Mwaanga said what Zambians deserve as the country moves towards the 2011 general elections is to see political parties stating what they will do for them, instead of focusing on personal attacks that are devoid of issues.
“This culture of personal attacks by opposition leaders has taken centre stage. There are no facts in utterances being made…
“This culture of personal attacks by opposition leaders has taken centre stage. There are no facts in utterances being made against President Banda and the MMD,” he said.
He said the MMD is a much more serious party which the opposition must emulate by coming up with more positive issues.
Mr Mwaanga said Zambians deserve better than reading about personal attacks that have no bearing on their lives.
He said during his recent visit to South Africa and Namibia with President Banda that it is pleasing to see the relationship between the governing party and the opposition who base their campaigns on important issues and not on trivial issues.
Mr Mwaanga said the media in the two respective countries also focus on issues, a thing that some of the private media in Zambia are failing to do.
He said Zambians must be able to distinguish between those who advocate triviality and those that focus on issues because this is a more civilised way of raising Pan-Africanism.
Vernon Mwaanga is the chief anarchist in Zambia.Anyone who sees sense in Vernon Mwaanga is an embacile!!
#11. Hard working is part of the CV. What about academic and professional qualifications? I am sure if you are asked how you would fair yourself to the new job you would also say you are very hard working. But when asked on your papers true intelligence would show. Do not cheat us with cheap politics. Viva RB with transparent track record
#21
Tone down your language,from the 72 tribes anyone can rule Zambia,period
Where is it enshrined that it is only this tribe to rule Zambia?Tribalism,go and hang to hell with this kind of thinking.
Atleast the Westerners,Southerners and pipo of Northwestern are NOT (I repeat : NEVER) part of plunderers who have looted public resources.Therefore dignity,virtue,dilligence,integrity and good governance is ONLY and ONLY synonimous with Lozis,Kaonde,Luvale & Tongas.
THE REST ARE HARD CORE THIEVES WORTH A PINCH OF SALT.
Zambian politics are dying….there’s so much comedy, people that the whole world knows that are crooks are still active in Zambian politics…. You find them associating with top leaders of the country. Where is our pride as Zambians? What legacy can we get from the current leaders? If the current goverment will rule for the next 5 to 10 years the whole Zambia will collapse. Let government change and atleast the news ones will be afraid of stealing for 5 years then we change government again….:)
I’d probably disown Zambia if Evil Satan became President. the man is unfit for leadership of any kind. Anybody know how one can obtain a copy of the Draft Constitution?
#11
It is very myopic to single out Sata only in the first 10 year rule of Dr.Chiluba as hard working,are you telling other minister did no do anything for the betterment of mother Zambia.
Another foolish Eastener. We have William and Rupiah Banda, now this one too? What is wrong with these people? It is only in Eastern Province were UNIP can still thrive because of nothing but the Rupiah coined slogan, WAKO NI WAKO. Real minds from Eastern Province have seen the failures and the marriage of Rupiah and Chiluba and they have said, sorry, no criminal support.
it just had to be times of zambia otherwise anything positive about the opposition wiil be ignored.Now coming to the subject at hand,this Zulu guy should be a bit fair and realistic,William Banda is beating pipo left ,right and centre,in Mufumbwe pipo being killed by Muzungu’s son and goes free and then you say MMD is democratic,if you asked me i think hh is better but pliz dont annoy pipo by saying RB is transparent or maybe it’s the english.
NGO’S pliz u shud not take sides but pliz try to stand up for the poor zambian who cant afford to take children to college,who cant have three meals per day and definately cant afford luxuries which RB and friends are enjoying.Sata is not really a big issue here coz he is not in power,it’s the pipo who will decide next year but for now there are important things like billions being un accounted for though RB is throwing tantrums he has to explain to us the pipo his employers where the money is going and not trying to hoodwink pipo by attacking donors.
Anything anti-Sata is published in the Times of Zambia and or Daily Mail.
Anything anti-RB is published in The Post.
What kind of media freedom is availble in Zambia? Why can’t a person who has something nice to say about Mr Sata say it to the Times or something nice to say about the President say it to The Post. Why this new and strange ‘tribalism?’ Mr Andrew Banda comes tops, because his views were published by The Post! We need more non-partisan thinking in Zambia FOR THE SAKE OF THE COUNTRY please! Everyone must stop thinking of their own ‘glory’ but think for the good of Zambia. If there are mistakes, by all means criticise, but if there is good, why not say so?
There are some good things in the PF agenda, and there are some bad things in the MMD agenda as well. No one has all solutions to the country’s problems. To move forward we must encourage those who are doing good regardless of their political affiliation! I was surprised that there was no high ranking government official at the launch of the Zambezi Airways new route! Zambia belongs to everyone, and government works on behalf of every one. Watching Membe and Kaunda on the Youtube video, showed what kind of a man KK is. He would have been against Membe in every way, but he comes to him to console him in his troubles. That is statesmanship. A father should not hate or segregate against his children. Our leaders must engage positively with criticism.
#43 not everythig has to do with tribes,a leader can be of any tribe what is important is the persons integrity.i thought VJ is from the south,MABENGA west,KALUMBA from luapula,DORA east etc…,i hope you get my point,no offense intended.
Zambian newspapers have now become tools of propaganda! This is not healthy for a fldgling democracy. One finds that reporting of news has become selective. This can only happen if individuals or institutions are at war with each other and hate each other. There is no amount of saying ‘I don’t hate, so and so…’ or ‘it’s not personal’ that will carry water to those that watch. It is clear that there are deep seated ill-feelings among the key players on the Zambian political and media scenes. That should stop. We have ONE country and it belongs to us and our children. It is the man in the streets and not at State House who benefits from aid and investment. Sanctions hurt the most vulnerable, who may not even vote! WORK TOGETHER in the ‘Land of work & joy in unity!’
Guys, we are saying Sata No! Banda No! HH no! can some one in here help me then who i can go vote for in 2011 please? One thing that we should at least agree with Sata is, at least he has made them guys in gov, busy trying to work, and has caused them sleepless nights because he talks too much, gets half baked information and them guys are scared of him! maybe am wrong, help me !Who do we go for?
No kaponya for president in Zambia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…lets not make that mistake…what does Sata know…@ #11 can you pliz tell us what you re referring to as Sata’s track record of hard working…tell us how he has uplifted the living standards of the poor…remind us of any time when he spoke sense. And HH should be very careful with Sata…the man is a chameleon.