Heritage Party (HP) president Godfrey Miyanda has said Chief Justice Ernest Sakala is not obliged to shake hands with Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata because greeting is a personal choice.
Brigadier General Miyanda also said that claims that the refusal by Justice Sakala to greet Mr Sata implied that the chief justice will scuttle Mr Sata’s 2011 presidential ambitions were off the mark.
The general also wondered why eminent people like Michelo Hansungule and John Mambo had joined the melee to add credibility to an otherwise empty noise at a funeral.
[pullquote]“What has happened to Zambia? Why should a mere greeting become a serious political issue and be turned into a national debate?
“There is no need for the chief justice to apologise to anyone unless he wants to. Since when did greeting become a duty?” he asked.[/pullquote]
He said to accept or not accept a greeting was a personal matter and that there was no need for Chief Justice Sakala to apologise to anyone.
General Miyanda was commenting on the greeting row that erupted after Chief Justice Sakala allegedly refused to shake hands with Mr Sata at the funeral of justice Peter Chitengi.
“What has happened to Zambia? Why should a mere greeting become a serious political issue and be turned into a national debate?
“There is no need for the chief justice to apologise to anyone unless he wants to. Since when did greeting become a duty?” he asked.
He said several opposition leaders had been rejecting President Rupiah Banda’s invitations to State functions because it was their right and that no one must make an issue out of it or make it a duty.
Gen Miyanda said Mr Sata’s statement that the chief justice would scuttle his 2011 dream was divisive and based on speculation.
“How can a refusal of a greeting interfere with ballots? Is it the chief justice who votes in all constituencies or does he carry ballots in his pockets? President Sata must provide cogent evidence or else withdraw this divisive statement,” said Gen Miyanda
He said Zambians must reject Professor Hansungule’s new definition of multi-party politics.
He said the idea of forming many parties suggests that people see matters differently and that they might reject even a greeting that they perceived not genuine.
He said Prof Hansungule was wrong to suggest that funerals were gatherings for reconciliation.
“We have several contentious issues facing our country, including the constitution-making process, the electoral process, security, tribalism, regionalism, poverty etc. Does the professor suggest seriously that we should all go to funerals to resolve these issues and for SACCORD to move its headquarters to Leopards Hill Cemetery?
If the 50 per cent plus one issue was tabled to be resolved at a funeral, there will be no reconciliation but fist fights and gnashing of teeth,” he said.
Gen Miyanda was also surprised that Bishop Mambo supported Prof Hansungule and added that a greeting might just be an act to dupe a naïve person into believing that one had found a friend.
“The bishop and most likely the professor know of one Judas Iscariot who hugged Jesus Christ just before he sent him to the gallows!” he said.
He said Zambians must remember the purported reconciliation between President Sata and late president Levy Mwanawasa.
“A lot of fanfare was made after the secret get-together. President Sata has declared that the reconciliation was a “gimmick”. Was Mr Sata’s greeting at St Ignatius also a gimmick?” he wondered.
He recalled that when Mr Sata went to greet him outside St Ignatius Church, he extended his hand voluntarily because he accepted the greeting.
“No one forced me that is how it should be although I did not like to be hugged,” he said.
He has called upon lawyers and Zambians to roundly condemn what he termed pettiness.
[ Times of Zambia ]
BaGen Miyanda mwaitaya. As much as the CJ is not obliged to shake hands with anyone, in this case it is the CJ has lost face in this matter. Imagine how he treats the lowly of our society if he can treat his “peer” like that.
KWANDANGALA ,
In what manor would Sata be a peer of the CJ?
We know that to capture attention, Sata went nemafi in his nails and on the jacket to smear the CJ. Who would tolerate that nonsense and uncultural behavior? What was so special of him to break protocol by coming in late after all VIPs were sitted then he goes in front starting to greet people with amafi on him?
I, personally fail to see what the big deal is. If the CJ personally feels he doesn’t want to shake someones hand, that’s his right. Regardless of who that person and his/her social standing is. I’m neither a big fan of both men, but in this case, Mr Sata;s being absolutely petty!!
And Sata acts a fool at a funeral!!! This is the man we want to be president? We are doomed!!
How many votes does this man get in elections? I mean 2001, 2006. 2008. I hope he is not contesting next year becouse we dont want people who as unpopolar to contest. His diminished political fortunes are adding to his diminished reasoning. It will be better for the Gen to keep to minority views to himself. CJ is a disgrace, Zambians have said! Period. Any man who tries to justify this disgraced act adds there name to the list of disgraced chaps. For starters the list is: RB, Kunda, Sililit, Shikapwasha, Mulongoti, Mangani, now the Gen has joined but i dont blame him its like the dosage of Gen Shikapwasha now has a bearing on Generals. gen Miyanda may just become like Gen Shika.
Hear! Hear! Hear! General. I admire the way you look at issues objectively most of the times. You have refused to take advantage of the unfortunate handshake incident for your political expediency. We must to look at the bigger picture for mother Zambia. Unfortunately you are a small voice in the wilderness.
Its my first time I have heard Miyanda speak nonsense. The man is full of wisdom words. When he was insulted my Maureen he just said he does not answer back to women because he regards them as mothers. But when Maureen insulted Sata, Sata said Maureen needs Alangizi lessons and Sata’s wife could be the best Alangizi. Today Miyanda thinks Chief Justice is a Chief Injustice. Miyanda since you are getting tired of loneliness, and started getting out of wisdom, just join the Pact.
I usually try to avoid making my contribution to this blog personal. However, while I respect the views of Read Card-Free at last, I would like, with due respect disagree with him. It is not true that the majority are always right. In addition, there is also what is called “the dictatorship of the majority over the minority”. Again, I don’t believe name calling is the best way to drive anyone’s point home.
Gen Miyanda has previously impressed me with his sober and deep thinking. On this matter, however, I think he has missed it. Mr. Sakala, as a private person had every right to reject anyone’s handshake. But I firmly believe that Mr. Sakala, as Chief Justice, did not have that luxury. The office he bore required that he act with decorum and professionally. Again, if the General thinks this issue is petty, why did he start to comment on it?
Mojo,
You are smelling pupu! KAPIPE PAMALOBA.You I.D.I.O.T motherf.u.c.k.e.r!
Sata is President of the largest Oposition political party,Miyanda is the President of the least political party.The Chief Justice cannot afford to ignore the president of the largest political party.What is this bitter man Miyanda talking about.Nowander he will go nowhere,maybe he must join a pact with RB after all hes also from the East!
when the body of late judge arrived and was placed at the back of the church in readiness for service sata walked in with lubinda. the church was seated sata headed to the front seats but was restrained by ushers who showed him were his seat was he refused then went to were women were seated and asked them to give him and his officails space. there was small drama as the women didnt want to move since the church was full to capacity. sata began his comedy going round the benches esp those occupied by judiciary and lawyers clearly he had mistimed his greetings. sata started to prounce about asking for laz presido and AG there were murmurs everywere about this misconduct. he started asking for chalwe farai mchenga calling for DPP that he needs to know him that he is the only lawyer he doesnt
Miyanda, your point, as ever, is very clear. You are level headed. True, there is alot of pettiness in Zambain. Even Prests have joined the pettiness. Catholics must reserve some diginity for themselves and their political church. SATA is a waste of time, but personally am happy to see that he will never go anywhere near Plot 1. He will just end up loud & frail. HH is a sad case. He thinks he might rejuvenate the popularity of late Mazoka, who he jumped in his seat. Mazoka was presidential material. Not this boy.
MMD Yasila,
Go tell Sata who moves around with it hoping to capture human attention as he does abalunshi like you. Who in his right mind would appreciate Sata’s behavior of moving with his amafi around VIPs and in the church for that matter?
Miyanda iz very right indeed, though the CJ would not have gained/lost anything in extending a hand of “ubuntu” greeting to Sata, or anyone else for that matter. Forget the thought that Sata wanted “to be seen”; what did the CJ “want to prove”? Would be comfortable withe notion that tribal couzinship waz at play…and we move on.
Objectivity is what most followers lack. You speak against Sata you are useless ignorant and a f o o l. Speak in support of him you are wise and upright. How shallow can one be? Sata fathers children from two sisters in one home his followers see no wrong, yet Siliya is called a whore even without proof of infidelity. How shall can one be? Miyanda has spoken objectively do not just read headlines, read his sound reasoning, so you may be educated.
If Sata is the one who didn’t greet the CJ, you would have been saying Azinvela and not fit to be a leader,Kwena Tamutasha
SATA Aitaya…………………….he was nicely fixed! :d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/
Seriously speaking, there are other national issues that we need to be focusing on.
#11 Mr sata is your president in PF he is just like any other small presidents we have in this country but mr Sakala is Chief Justice of this country and he Should protect the integrity of his office as the current CJ and avoiding dubious and irrelevant associations with questionable characters is one way of doing just that.Judge Sakala has no obligation to greet Mr sata.PERIOD!!
olo ine i can refuse…..who knows where he was coming from?
It is only those who where nearer to Mr.Sata and CJ who can give an independent opinion of what transpired,however,little has been heard from CJ.In all fairness,someone can easly conclude that the two had a grudge against each other.Sata’s attack on the JUDICIARY could be something that has been brewing.
The picture also spoke volumes,one and only SATA standing,everyone touched by the loss of the beloved one.
I have never taken General Miyanda to be an intelligent man never,the guy is just a failed soldier to start with.What has Miyanda done privately or publicly to write home about?
All his MPs run away from him (HP) including Shikapwasha because of his dictatorial tendences.He was demoted from VP to Education minister,it was his time @ the ministry that caused choas over his TEVETA & BESIP nonsense.
Politically,he stole the Village Concept from UNZA students & upto now he has failed to convince any reasoning mind to make sense out of it……Yes he may appear humble to some gullible people but the guy is a failure.
this country is petty,the general is objective.why is that ,wen one disagrees with sata/the post they are insulted.handshake is a voluntary issue.amambala leave us alone
twatendwa ne chi ba ebati CHISATA mwa
Other sources review,that comedy started,because Mr.Sata wanted to sit at his reserved SIT,unfortunately the sit was occupied,besides that he also wanted to meet in personal with the DPP.
Mr.sata was preoccupied with DRAM and ended up where the CJ sat.
‘It’s Sata to blame’
How many mourners are standing in this picture taken by the Post newspaper?
I am rather surprised at the twisted reports relating to the encounter between the Chief justice, His Lordship Ernest Sakala and Patriotic Front (PF) leader Mr. Michael Sata.
I am also shocked that an encounter between two parishioners has been blown out of context and is now a dirty excuse and evil plot to scandalize and remove Chief Justice Ernest Sakala.
Following the valedictory service at the Supreme Court for the late Supreme Court Justice, His Lordship Peter Chitengi, we all rushed to Catholic Church at St. Ignatius, where the requiem service was to be held at 10:30hrs. This was on 23rd June 2010.
When we arrived we all took our seats with the Chief Justice, Ernest Sakala taking the first sit on the front pew with his fellow Supreme Court Justices and some government officials such as Minister of Defence, Dr. Kalombo Mwansa
I agree with Miyanda infact the ministry of health had issued Cholera alerts prior to the funeral effectively burning or unneccessary greetings including those Sata is fond of
The entire rows behind were taken up by mostly, High Court judges, members of the Judiciary, and members from the Attorney General and Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) chambers. Some ministers such as Mike Mulongoti and Kenneth Konga sat on the benches with family members.
When the body arrived and was placed at back of the Church in readiness for the service, Mr. Michael Sata walked in accompanied by Given Lubinda and other PF officials.
At this stage, the entire church was seated and almost silent. Mr. Sata headed straight to the front seats but was quickly restrained by ushers who showed where his seat and that of his officials were.
He refused. He then went where some women were seated and asked them to give him and his officials space. There was some small drama as the women appeared reluctant to leave their seats as the church at this stage was full to capacity. This situation was only rescued by the ushers who insisted that Mr. Sata and his officials had his seats allotted to them. He was led to these seats.
It’s at this stage that Mr. Sata began his drama. He began to go around the benches especially those occupied by the Judiciary and lawyers. Clearly he had mistimed his greetings. Usually at a funeral service, such open interaction is left for outside after the body viewing which is after the service. Mr. Sata ignored this decorum and appeared desperate to be recognized by everybody and to establish his presence.
Mr. Sata began to prance about asking for Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) President Stephen Lungu. Lungu was seated with Attorney General Abyud Shonga.
There were audible murmurs about this conduct.
Probably as a Chief Mourner, the Chief Justice was disgusted with this conduct which does not fit with the status of Mr. Sata and showed his disapproval by not extending his hand to greet this excited politician.
It is not up to me to justify the open disdain shown by the Chief Justice against Mr. Sata, but my guess would be that the disapproval was not to Mr. Sata but his open misconduct at a funeral of dear colleague.
But the mummers were heard everywhere. Many were wondering. How could a leader seeking the highest office in the land disregard the mourning environment and traditions of a somber gathering like a funeral and preoccupy himself with selfish activities designed to give him cheap publicity?
Even when he was not greeted by several people or some chose to ignore him totally, Mr. Sata went about repeatedly visiting these benches. At one time, he came to these benches loudly calling and asking “where is Chalwe Farai Mchenga?” he kept on calling for the DPP demanding that he needs to know Mchenga as he is the only lawyer he doesn’t know personally.
Please Zambia motherland, lets talk about real issues at hand, Sata / CJ are personal issues! This nation will never progress if we have pipo with such minute way of reasoning, who cares if Sata was hurt when the CJ refused to greet him, this country does not belongs Sata alone but to Zambians. By the way SATA wont be here in the next 50 years, can we concentrate on building a new zambia please napapata! 😕
Clearly the post tabloid deliberately ignored all these matters and fished out facts out of context for their own selfish reasons. It is not surprising that this has now formed the basis of a dirty campaign designed to hound out office a constitutional office holder.
But now The Post is known to make an issue national, when in fact it is a private agenda. This Chief Justice Ernest Sakala is a man they worked well with. His entire Supreme Court Bench once attended a gala night hosted by The Post. The fall-out has been steep and the empire was partially dismantled with Sakala’s loyalties lying with the State and with Justice and not with private individuals.
It’s up to you to be ensnared to a private agenda or make a stop to what “the Post wants the Post gets philosophy”.
It’s incumbent upon LAZ to speak against these open plots and evils against constitutional officers or institutions such as the Judiciary will fall prey to the evil influences and manipulations and will continuously be held hostage by The Post.
We might not like Chief Justice Sakala, but to allow The Post hound out office or willfully participate in schemes selfishly designed to scandalize officials is not acceptable. They have been campaigning for the removal of Vice-President George Kunda, the DPP Chalwe Mchenga, Inspector General of Police Kabonde and that has been resisted and ignored. This scheme falls in that category and is best ignored.
Disgusted Lawyer
Where can i get the draft constitution online?
”The general also wondered why eminent people like Michelo Hansungule and John Mambo had joined the melee to add credibility to an otherwise empty noise at a funeral.” So General, why have you yourself and no one but you joined in ”the melee to add credibility to an otherwise empty noise at a funeral” by commenting also? Why cant you keep QUIET if the story is empty??
What is our nation turning into? The General has clearly misdirected himself! While greeting or not greeting is a matter of personal choice, in this case the choice was an indication of how petty and vindictive Sakala is. Both not very good qualities in a man holding the Office of CJ. It’s like owning the biggest pub in town when you are the Chief Bishop of the biggest Pentecostal Church in the same town!
(I do not mean to start another debate . . .jsut using the example to clarify how short sighted the General is.)
Too bad this debate is still going on…..Let us talk about something serious now…they did not shake hands…so what? CJ could just have extended his hand and was never going to be part of this no sense by him especially at a time many do not trust the judiciary any more
General Miyanda and I quote: “…..The general also wondered why eminent people like Michelo Hansungule and John Mambo had joined the melee to add credibility to an otherwise empty noise at a funeral” and article goes on to say “……General Miyanda was commenting on the greeting row that erupted…….”
The point being the General is commenting on the issue in the same manner of the people he is disparaging. If this is a non issue lets leave it! Period.
Power will change hands, Viva PACT no matter how many times the PACT is destroyed. Ifwe ni PACT chabe…………..
Zambian Politics needs a new breed of young Zambians, not those from the recycling bin(of politics) to lead this country in a new era of thinking, of doing things i will therefore in the coming months form a political party called, New Zambia Democratic Party, NZDP. wE SHALL NOT ALLOW TO LEAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY IN THE HANDS OF RECYCLERS, WAKE UP YOUNG PEOPLE AND NEVER ALLOW TO BE USED BY RECYCLED FAILURES!
Who is sata by the way to distruct people’s attention from duty? This man is a mere commedian.From what he has done and said since the 2008 elections reveal a lot of foolishness and dullness about him.What people have said about this man, Sata is coming to pass.Look at the picture in the church:he is the only one standing…..what does that entail? wisdom or foolishness?……it is for you to pass judgment.
The good Gen. should ask himself why the Times gave him front page space when they dont normally give him even the smallest space on page 2!!!!!
#35 I totally agree with you. Sata/CJ issue is a personal one. let us talk about real issues, issues that will help take our nation forward. Can you imagine, 45 years after independence, some people still go about without meals, without clothes, without shoes? Some children can not afford to be in school because their parents cannot afford to pay the fees? These are some of the issues we need to discuss and find a way to improve the situation on – a way to empower all the Zambian citizens. Its true that “Mwapoleni akulile umushi, and that all peace and development begin with a handshake or a smile but the manner we are so obsessed in discussing the Sata/CJ incident has taken away so much time we would haver rather used to discuss other more pertinent matters.
#39. I am also wondering where to get the draft constitution because it is not online. Are they deliberately keeping it offline so there is little time for us to comment? With these characters, you can never know. Anyone with any clues?
CJ’s refusal to greet Ba Sata is a petty issue. There are so many problems that our minds need to focus on such as poverty, unemployment, water and sanitation, falling educational standards, health etc. For me finding solutions to these problems is what will help Zambia move forward. I also wish to point out that it is very unnecessary to insult one another through such medium. It is better to objectively make a contribution that will build others and not destroy.
Due to chronic cholera, most clever people in Lusaka and Chibolya do not shake hands anymore.
I wanna echo to echo #35 and #48 observations! Much as I am not a sympathiser of the ruling party, I also feel and believe that this issue has rather been too politicised and blown way out of proportion! Let us direct our energies and intelligent opinions on developmental issues! Let is discuss the NCC Draft Constitution which is gonna affect us directly or indirectly in one way or another. In any case, has Sata or the CJ made any comments regarding the hullabaloo? It’s rather a trivia! Come guys! Be Reasonable!
#52 THIS SUBJECT IS DEAD AND BURIED. The Gen has come too late. Looking at the picture the CJ and Sata seem to be having a good time.
Traditionally, when you arrive at the funeral, you are required to greet every one found sitting, enemy or friend. So CJ could have just greeted this f.o.o.l, and served us from all these nonsense in the paper. More ever, he couldn’t have lost anything.
DEJAVU……Ba Sata,shame on you old man. First it was Maureen and now CJ.
This man Sata is demonic i tell you people of Zambia.
Read in today’s PF paper that Dark Priest Frank ”genocide” Bwalya told cj to to confess his ”SIN”…the sin being snubbing his boss !! My foot !
Frank why didnt you go to the PF paper and ask Sata to confess his sins for committing adultery and busy chewing the ”holy” communion?..oh sorry since it involves your other bosses’ sister,Sata did not sin !!!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha…father my butt!
Is it a shame that we can devote so much time and energy debating handshakes… I mean what does it matter who shakes hand with who… this country has lost direction, lets direct and dedicate our time and energy on issues that will redeem this country. Forget about the handshake…
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” – Edmund Burke Bristol MP 1774-1780
I am glad a politician of sober character like General Miyanda has given a good opinion on the matter. Indeed why should people shake at funerals? The Post needs to review its position in granting a soapbox to politicians like Sata and HH.
#55 BEN – Shows how shallow you are. Did I support Sata or condemn CJ? Stoopid chap. Read properly and dont annoy me seely.
If we can’t even greet each other at funerals which are solemn occasions how do we expect the counrty to move forward.Development is done in stages and not all at once.Start small and then grow big from there,it is not only MMD and all its bootlickers and minions that will develop zambia.Its every zambian that has a heart for his country whether from the opposition,from chibolya or Siangombo.So lets sort out small issues before we can even think of development.It is very myopic foor anyone to say that what happened between the CJ and sata is trivial.It reflects the division and anger that is abound in zambia today,a house divided cannot stand.So you what development let people start respecting and appreciating the role every zambian can play in developing the country.stop peddlig hatred.
I have so much respect 4 you General…but on this one you out of the way,if you didnt ve anything to say on this you should have kept quiet than lower yourself like this!!Am disappointed
when are we to leave aside political differences and embrace each other. as far as I know the CJ is a non partisan post. if he refuse greeting some and accept others what is the implication? Miyanda has big errors in his reasoning, because a hand shake means a lot in zambia. One of them is enemity,; u don’t shake hands with enemies. what was CJ’s implication?
I love Gen. Miyanda as a christian and a political leader, however I totally disagree with his view. Is it okay for the CJ to be wining and dining with Chilubas wife, who was convicted and show hatred to Sata who is a major political player. Nowonder the rebel PF members are so protected. Why is that most easterners are so supportive of wrong things these days.
Wow…sorry Deja vu, i meant the actual DEJAVU as for the same thing happening twice to SATA. Easy with the language . I may be stoopid but i surely did not direct my statement at Deja vu the person .
Lets debate with honor.
# 2, have you heard or read what the CJ said to Sata, its got nothing to do with pupu, he simply said “since when” since when did we ever shake hands, do you mean mutu wako niwo koma that you dont understand simple english.
Draft constitution can be downloaded from the ncczambia.org
Ok just seen the draft Constitution , one issue which needs changing is the By election clouse when a president dies. we dont need a bye election we should follow the nigerian style imagine if Banda died today(God forbid) we would do a bye election and again another one in 2011?????????????
Imwe story ati ba SATA was busy greeting everyone mu church busy making alot of noise. He was shown where to seat but he refused . The Judge was irritated and refused to greet him thats what happened not the stupid story the post was fabricating.
“kulibone shata”. makes Sata a laughing stock.”Icimbuya kumalilo”.Once beaten twice shy.Sata’s mouth piece (Given Lubinda) was equally embarassed by his boss’s behaviour.
He really wants to show off,what if things goes to the dogs,he happens to be HEAD OF STATE,Zambian won’t cough.
Shaking hands? The Queen wears gloves to do this> Going ‘cheers! cheers!’ shaking anyone’s hand can seriously damage your health!
Now it is time to know that this issue is bigger more than many thought. No wonder the govt has got involved, hired individuals by the MMD aand its govt, people from eastern province supporting CJ Sakala, govt controlled media as a mouth piece. By doing so it is not surprising why this is the most burning issue and it has overtaken draft constitution. The reasons are simple failure by the CJ to accept it was wrong and out of his character. It was my tribal cousin I was laughing with and I never meant to hate or hurt him we always laugh. Wrong advice by people in the corridors of power or judicial from eas. The joining of many people from eastern province supporting CJ and the govt have escalated.My humble advice is for CJ to act and not listen to politicians or those hired to defend him
Miyanda elyo wapwa, no you are a finished politician. how do you support such kind of an act just because sakala is you friend? now forget about any hopes we had to bring you mu bwato. go and organise your heritage party. i have been proud of you until this time. shit
Finally the General has spoken some sense, Zambia zambia please change for better
Empty tins always make the loudest noise.Sata’s behaviour at eminet funerals has left a bad footprint.Those who have been hear him,do not dire him to aspire for the highest job of the land.
I could not resist that picture and this handshake saga.
The picture tells it all and I am surprised that the Post did not see its implications on their colleague. The man is desperate for cheap publicity. If I were the Chief Justice, I would do exactly the same and more: look the other way. Now if Mr Sata was indeed serious presidential material he would have dignified himself and taken his seat, and waited for the Chief Justice to offer his hand, not the other way round. Rather than vilify the Chief Justice, surely the villain here is “President” Mr Sata, unless your mind is cock eye.
For humble, mature and wise people, a hand shake is a very important gesture. And for a man of the stature of a Chief Justice in particular, it should go without mention that refusing a hand shake in public is scandalous. By virtue of being the CJ, this man is expected not to be petty and to treat all citizens equal regardless of their status, political affiliations or orientation. Failure to do so diminishes the image of the entire judiciary in the public’s eyes; it simply implies that the CJ and his entire subordinates are selective in their way of dispensing justice. Now, this is very dangerous. Look at KK; this man understands what a hand shake is; he can even shake hands with the likes of ka chiluba, the guy who committed the worst atrocities against him
This(SATA),Jack of all Trades and master of none, wants to bulldoze everyone as he does in PF. Even when he was not greeted by several people or some chose to ignore him totally, Mr. Sata went about repeatedly visiting these benches. At one time, he came to these benches loudly calling and asking “where is Chalwe Mchenga?” he kept on calling for the DPP demanding that he needs to know Mchenga as he is the only lawyer he doesn’t know personally.Sata wanted to settle his political scores with the LAW FRATERNITY at a wrong gathering.Period.
After reading careful MIyanda’s story. I personal agree with him on the point that shaking hands is a personal matter. There is nothing wrong in refusing or accepting handshaking. Even here we don’t usually shake hands. Knodding or waving hands is much appreciated and more hygienically.
Mr Sata might have come to realise that Mr Sakala hates him But he should not fear that the CJ will ignore Mr Sata on national duties like his fear of election malpractice where as voting is in the hands of the voters NOT the CJ.
Comedy at it’s best,Sata will not stop amazing Zambians.I expect a radical change in Mr.Sata towards his behaviour,that photo speaks big volumes,everyone was sitted and deeply touched by the lose our beloved one.
Let Mr.Sata listen to that song,the song goes,”icimbuya mulecefyeko kumalilo”.
It is too early to start worshipping SATA,even if he has done something wrong,people still want to condone it.People are not born to be DICTATOR,but are made to be DICTATOR because of HERO WORSHIPPING.
Hand shaking is renewal of all kinds of gud and bad,but in leadership there are no choices. Mr SAKALA and MIYANDA need to step down because they are setting bad example for the future:))**==
Surely General Miyanda, are you seriously justifying the Chief Justice’s behaviour in public? Sakala is Chief Justice of Zambia and therefore he is expected to behave in a particular manner. Subtlely he forfeites certain rights, not by writen rule, but by self restraint without allowing emotions to take the better part of him. Sorry General, Sakala is not in an easy job like you.
#23 Wanzelu – You have it all wrong — Gen Miyanda is not a failed, he rose to VP after his military career. What he has said here has a lot of logic. He asks a very intelligent question – the opposition has shunned invitations at National Events and you have kept quiet. What is wrong with the CJ refusing a handshake from an overzealous embarrassing politician? #43 There is nothing “eminent” about Bishop Mambo and Dr. Hansungule. I have on several occasions checked Dr. Hansungule on Google Scholar – there is nothing much to talk about him — he is just a SACCORD/UPND member/sympathizer and Gen Miyanda was being very diplomatic. #44 That kind of thinking is very retrogressive. Better to steal ideas from University students than Kulima Tower.
The general started well in his argument but went outside the point when he mentioned about Prof Hansungule said. Hansungule was right when he said during funerals some disagreements become resolved, these are between people not between political parties. He talked about Leopards hill cemetery in a very uninformed, irrelevant context. The general is very confused on this matter. I hope he was misquoted. The chief Justice made an error and Sata has a reason to get worried about how his cases in courts will be handled. Miyanda will die a loner, let him come down to earth.
Ba Miyanda just stand as an MP in the eastern province under the MMD. You are a let down!!!!!
BEN – Thanx , Hatchet is buried and all bad words taken back.
:)>-…..Dejavu..way to go man
Even the late bad employee is spoken of good because of the funeral presence.Unity should be there for the sake of comforting the deceased family.General Please.
Useless Generals who cant even kill a RAT.CJ is a Cowed like his boss Banda.
Banda Should be charged for raping a ugly teacher
NOW I KNOW WHY THIS CHAP MIYANDA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.
IN CATHOLIC A GREETING IS A SIGN OF PEACE.
SO YOU SATANIST MIYANDA CAN NOT SEE ANY THING WRONG.
NO WONDER YOU USED TO GIVE ORDERS TO SHOOT STUDENTS .
we dont know what sata touched before coming to greet the CJ.
AND BY SATA’s looks, obviously tabasamba kuminwe after the loo business is done.
The CJ was just observing simple hygiene rules
even me I would refuse greeting this kaponya
Can we pause for a moment and ask ourselves a simple question. When we are in court do we go around to greet and shake the hands of the judges before the hearing starts? Of course we don’t because that is against court decorum and every profession has its rules. Now some might say this is a bad example, but you see wherever he is the Chief Justice is a dignified person and carries himself accordingly. He is not gonna condone horseplay, that is simply the stature of his high office. Sata should learn some etiquette otherwise “when” he becomes president he will attempt to hug the Queen of England or even President Obama, which is not accepted practice.
Looks like this Professor Hansungule fellow is only known in Post circles. How come we do not hear about him in academic circles? He doesn’t seem to write research papers like other professors do. When he writes something it is a naughty article in the Post, even landing Mmembe in the coolers for a stupid article which he should have known would land his colleague in trouble. I have not heard about him being selected by the UN, EU etc to sit on a panel of eminent legal persons. How successful is he in the acedemia? Is he one of those acedemic refugees who end up being teaching assistants at some obscure university, while posing for the Post as an eminent professor?
On “He [Heritage Party unelected leader Brig Gen G. Miyanda] recalled that when Mr Sata went to greet him outside St Ignatius Church, he extended his hand voluntarily because he accepted the greeting.[..] “No one forced me that is how it should be although I did not like to be hugged,” he said” I am deeply disappointed that Gen Miyanda can talk such nonsense about him not liking the hug from Mr PF/Sata MC in such a manner.
However, most of the other things Gen Miyanda mentioned above are good reflections of what must obtain in our Zambian Society.
I would like to add that let some NGO be formed to help teach political party leaders like Mr PF/Sata MC how to behave in public gatherings.
Be blessed all.
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#96 He is just one of those characters who want to create an impression that they are an authority on this and that (Land Law) without anything to back them. I have googled him several times on Google Scholar – nothing much, no new publications, a few old presentations. That’s it. I remember this man from the UNZA days.
For once, I agree with Miyanda. Sata is a crook, its in his blood and he cannot help himself. The story of the reconciliation with Levy is a very good example of the serpent nature of this vile character and for one I support Sakala for refusing to shake the hand of a character who will pretend to be your friend in church and be the first to spit vernon in your eyes once you step outside. Besides, doctors found five contegious diseases in Sata and one shouldn’t blame Sakala for being on the precautionary side.
#96 Professor Hansu,please google professor Hansunguule. He is professor @ University of Pretoria,A well renowned University, better than our universities in Zed, perhaps even better than the university you attended if at all you did!
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#100 It is good you use “perhaps”. What is the University of Pretoria? It may be a good University in South Africa or Africa – but how does it rate in the World? I have gone to the top 25 in the World – I started from UNZA. By the way, it does not matter whether your Prof Hansu teaches at University of Pretoria or wherever – send me titles of his latest publications in peer-reviewed journals. Professors publish in peer-reviewed journals – if they don’t, we do not know them. My area is engineering but I follow other disciplines closely.
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#100 achimwene, when your professor Hansungule last caused the present trouble for mmembe, I mean the comedy of errors, I seem to recall that the Post said he was at some unversity in USA. Seems he is no longer at the University of Pretoria. Now I acknowledge that the University of Pretoria is a good university in RSA or indeed Africa. But maybe you should shed more light on your hero. Is he or is he no longer at University of Pretoria? If he is not, why has he left? If he is in America, which university is he at now? Answer