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Two people have died following the riot in Mongu today over the Barotse agreement. Home Affairs Minister Mkondo Lungu confirmed the two deaths and arrest of about hundred people in connection with the riot.

And Government has said that  it will not condone any group of people that will continue spreading hatred, tribalism and violence in the country.

Acting government spokesperson Dora Siliya said that  anyone who wants to take the law into their own hands will be dealt with firmly to send a signal to all thinking that government is soft on the matter.

Youths block the road that leads to the palace during the riot in Mongu over the Barotse agreement.

Ms Siliya has called on people of Western province to remain calm and not to allow the situation to worsen.

Addressing a press in Lusaka today, Ms. Siliya said  it was unfortunate that the group calling itself the Black Bulls are taking advantage and misleading youths.

Ms. Siliya said  youths should be vigilant and ensure that they are not victims as they will only be the ones to be exposed to the police.

She said it is the reason why government has sent a full force of police to diligently deal with the matter in the province.

And Radio Lyambai in Mongu has been closed.  Sources at the radio station confirmed to QFM that the radio station was closed this morning when police stormed the station and confiscated computers.

The source says the station was closed for airing voice pops of people on the Barotse agreement.

Remains of burnt car on the main street as a result of riots in Barotseland
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153 COMMENTS

  5. you see how the catholics operate!! radio Lyambai. we have been telling you stop this rot from the catholics. what a shame surely. my zambia i cry for my country

  6. You tolerated these thugs for too long! Check out those who are both financing and deceiving them in the diaspora as well! I know Zambia cannot slip into anarchy. It is protected by God! Lock ’em up that others may learn from their stupidity too!

  9. This is indeed a very sad develop marred in governments failure to look seriously at this issue. Police why use live bullets on people in this technological era. Sata should know that even the truth should be stated at the right time and consistently so. Not moving with politics and a strong desire to go to state house. The consequences are there for all to see

  12. Remember the Red Berets during the infamous food riots on the Copperbelt? Sting those “fulls” with ’em! They will learn a lesson of their life! They will never call other people Manyukukunyuku again. Every province in Zambia is for Zambians (and other peace loving foreigners!) You cannot be an island! ZNDF go deal with ’em! This is a coups d’état! It requires guys from Ndola and I assure you the Ndola boys will drive this nonsense out of them for good!

  13. time for dividing countries is long gone…lock up those selfish Lozis….Sad for those who lost their lives in this senseless riot…But the Law should prevail!!!

  16. This is a sad development indeed. However, the people of Barosteland have waited for close to 50 years hoping Govt will honour its part. Remember that even the fight for independence was achieved with some people losing their lives. The people of Barosteland will do the same if need be for the sake of future generations just like our independence fathers did for all of us so we can enjoy the freedom we have today. The heavy police presence is what led to the riot and it was irresponsible of police to have gone there with guns.

  17. Trace some info on those computers and everyone connected to their supply, financial and moral support must be linked to conspiracy! I tell you, I miss KK!

  18. The government should take stern action against the terrorists. They cannot hold the nation to ransom. Send the “Red berets” and the mobile unit immediately.

  19. Shoot all the Black Bulls, this is not Banana Republic. Next close down the Post Newspaper, they fueled this violence.
    I guess Sata is happy now

  20. No one group of people is special than the other. We are all Zambians. The instigation that all non-Lozi speaking must leave Western Province must be quashed with the etxreme force and the ring leaders of the riot imprisoned for life. Do not send Police to Western Province but snipers and Commandos.

  22. This is total leaership failure,blaming the catholics,Sata or any interested party who are not in a position to make decisions will not doSata is not the president of Zambia,so whatever he thinks,said or did not say does not matter,what matters is the opinion of those who have the authority to do something about it.

    I said it,the biggest mistake a govt can make is to stifle debate,dialogue always gives people a breathing vent,when you shut people up eventually they will explode,God did not bless human beings with a mouth for just eating and kissing.

    The blood of even one soul will squarly rest in the hands of Rupiah and his regime

  23. # 15 One “full” had to be hand picked by the colonial master to justify their occupation. That “full” had to be pampered to make him feel superior to others! The “full” was just like any other but was pawn in the circus of divide and rule and divide and conquer! Other “fulls” like the other big one do not get it in their thick heads! That is why the Zambian gov cannot recognize what was done in the name of divide and rule to be legitimate! Does you thick head get it?

  24. I think there is some bigger fish behind this all mess. I love my province but i hate what is happening and against all this violence. God help us

  25. SATA SHLD ALEAST SAY SOMETHING NOW THE BLOOD OF OUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS IN MONGU IS IN HANDS WATS THE NONSE JST BECAUSE HE WANTS PLOT 1 SHAME HE HAS GOT NO MORALS ONE LOVE ONE NATION ONE ZAMBIA MAY GOD BLESS OUR LAND PEACE TO ALL.

  26. This is very unfortunate. Things should never have reached such levels if Politicians in this country had done their homework and managed this country well. I have just been following events in Tunisia where there are serious riots.
    These issues are caused by POOR governance that leads to a POOR standard of living among the citizenry.
    Even in MMD, WE HAVE NEVER HAD CONSISTENT POLICIES AND PROGRAMS.
    All the three presidents have come with their styles and u turns and old politicians like VJ have been changing colors to suit circumstances.
    Lets improve our governance and the quality of life for the majority poor.

    FOOD FOR THOUGHT

  28. SATA SHLD ALEAST SAY SOMETHING NOW THE BLOOD OF OUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS IN MONGU IS IN HIS HANDS WATS THE NONSES JST BECAUSE HE WANTS PLOT 1 SHAME HE HAS GOT NO MORALS. ONE LOVE ONE NATION ONE ZAMBIA MAY GOD BLESS OUR LAND PEACE TO ALL.

  29. I fail 2 understand y people r pointin fingers @ Sata and The Post. This problem has bn there 4 along time since 1964. The Gov had time to change the Law’s according 2 the demans of Lozi’s in the NCC. However, the lozis got right 2 demand for there rights on how they want 2 leave. Lets comment and post the solutions so 2 make other people understand whats happain in Mongu not just posting just coz u got a right to post comments.

    Viva MMD still in Power 2011-12-13….-…..

  30. zebiggy we are not blaming catholics we are just stating facts. remember these issues started when duffy issued a staement that western province was against govt and it was under developed, then membe started they campaign and funded the initial activities, then sata jumped on the bandwagon and now it has all flared up. zambia is a properly constituted state and it must protect its territorial integrity. all the guys involved must be fished out and dealt with properly. even in europe they dont allow such anarchy, why do you think the british fought for so many years in northern ireland? to protect their unitary state. One Zambia One Nation. zambia will never be divided simples

  31. Consquences of trivializing issues!!! Zambian maturity means being able to judge and see the intensity of issues. outbursts of calling the guys involved in this issue, fool, ignorant and all the negative worlds will not work?? Some of you are ignorantly talking about the police and force do you have an idea of how people unarmed have fought people with bullets??? its not only force that is needed but a careful dialogue and government and other citizenry should desist from making any claims of calling the agrived parties opportunists, thugs as this will just breed more anger. lets be mature as Zambian. we have a big problem of calling people or sorts of names even on LT don’t take other people as useless. these are the consquences. am not in support of violence, Pls lets not trivialize it.

  32. the big fish no 26 is none other than bishop duffy in mongu and membe in lusaka with some few lozi’s living in the UK and in canada. they will soon be found and sorted out

  34. zed these black bulls are thugs simples. the rightful person to negotiate with giovernment is the litunga and the BRE not some useless money hungry thugs being paid by membe and sata. that foolish inonge woman also must answer for this

  37. AM IN MONGU

    ZNBC is under repoting. Right now About 7 civilians killed so far. one police vhicle put on fire. Gun fire still going on . This from 10hrs to now and possibly through out the night. Any comment

  38. the lozi people are peaceful John Phiri. you are just trying to provoke. the guys behind this are not even in mongu right now. the main financiers are in london and canada and lusaka. the key is to go after them decisively. KK and FTJ would not tolerate this nonsense. our DG in Lusaka is showing a lot of weakness because by now all the key guys should have been cleared off

  39. Suppose next week govt decides to restore the Barotse agreement:

    1.What will be the status of non westerners(non Lozis) in Barotse and Lozis outside Barotse be?
    2.What will happen to the symbols of Zambia as a state like the flag,national anthem and constitution in Barotse?
    3.As a non Lozi will i still be free to drive in and out of Baroste without querries?
    4.Will my Lozi freinds suddenly become foreigners or expatriates outside Barotse and what will be the status of the civil service,the republican presidenCy,the Litunga and role of other arms of govt in this agreement.
    5.Are the boundaries of Barotse and western province the same?

    Somebody answer me these simple questions which flood my head concerning this issue.

  40. Zambia Police should NEVER fire live rounds of ammunition at unarmed demonstrating citizens. Francis Kabonde, and Mkhondo Lungu should resign or be sacked and if the President authorised this he too should answer for it. In this day and age it is not right for Police to fail to control crowds but instead resort to violence on unarmed citizens! Kanshi ninshi mu Zambia ufontini taupwa!

  41. Our president while in Mongu said the problems in the province are overexagerated and everything is normal!!!! is this normal. am saddened by this isssue and this problem of leaders not listening to demands of people is scary. imagine how they even demonize those who oppose the uncountable trips by our president and the dozens accompanying him. pls learn to listen don’t be stiff-necked. when people go to these extremes it show that they are a number of factors at play. Panji says these elections will be the bloodiest IF issues are not looked into and the following day the whole MMD press and the government decides not to hid to the advise and start attacking him…. poor reasoning that is costly to the nation

  42. ROUGH RESEARCH BY ME

    1 TRIBES LIKE NKOYA AND MBUNDA FEAR SECESSION BECAUSE LOZIS WILL DOWNTREAD THEM
    2 SATA IS HAPPY BECAUSE MMD WILL NOT HAVE A LOT OF VOTES FROM WESTERN PROVINCE THEN HE WILL BE IN PLOT 1 COME ELECTIONS
    3 MMD IS AFRAID BECAUSE OF 2 ABOVE
    4 BRE IS AFRAID BECAUSE MALOZI FEEL BRE HAS NOT LOBBYED FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR 46 SIX YEARS NOW AND BRE IS IRELEVANT. HENCE FORCING BRE TO SUCEDE
    5 MALOZI WANT SECESSION BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY WILL HAVE TO BE SELF RELIANT IN 20 YEARS TIME IE THEY WILL HAVE INDUSTRIES, COLLEGES, GOOD ROADS EVERYTHING IN THEIR OWN BACK YARD
    6 MALOZI DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE REST OF ZAMBIA IS WORRIED.ITS THEIR POOR COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO DEFINE THEIR DESTINY

  44. the observer you are not in mongu and you are a big liar. this is the problem chaps sitting on ka computer blogging lies. Mongu is calm now and now they are just sweeping the remnants. next step will be targeted arrests of the lusaka based chaps. mutangelwa is now in custody

  47. observer no 42 you have just exposed yourself as one of the funders and useless myopic diaspora lozi’s. we will soon catch up with all of you.

  48. hahahaha they is no need of killing each other we are one pipo, we should all pray for peace to prevail kumazilo)))

  49. What is happening in Mongu is also happening in Tunisia.
    Authorities in Tunisia have declared a state of emergency, banning public gatherings and ordering security forces to fire on anyone who refuses to comply. Tunisia is in the midst of its worst rioting in decades.

  52. Mr. Sata what do you have to say for yourself now? Violence should not be encouraged nor tolerated. I commend govt for swift action on that genocidal radio station. More action needs to be done to curb hateful messages.

    More dialogue needs to be done. Violence is never the answer. ONE ZAMBIA, ONE NATION. This is what Kalos2121 wanted. He must be overflown with excitement at this news.

  53. LATEST

    THE POLICE HAVE GONE ON RAMPHAGE ARRESTING IF NOT SHOOTING ANY MAN FOUND ON THE STREET. I WILL KEEP THE BLOGGERS UPDATED.

  54. please why are we killing ourselves? What is the main problem unlike fight the innocent souls on the streets. Please Ba Maroon Beret (red beret) Fly to this province. Your memories are still fressh on the food riots one commando guarding one street. Dont kill but deal with them the way you disciplined the C/B thugs

  56. The throne to the Lozi kingdom has always been a hot seat. There may be rules of succession but every incumbent is under threat from somewhere. Imasiku was deposed by Sebitwane of the Kololo, who ruled till his death. After Sebitwane’s son Sipopa, the crown reverted to the maLuyana through Mwanawina 2. Lubosi was deposed by Akufuna but regained the throne later. No Lozi King is safe. There may be more to this saga than just the so called ‘Barotseland Agreement!’

  57. What is happening in Mongu is also happening in Tunisia.
    Authorities in Tunisia have declared a state of emergency, banning public gatherings and ordering security forces to fire on anyone who refuses to comply. Tunisia is in the midst of its worst rioting in decades.:)>-:)>-

  60. What is happening in Mongu is also happening in Tunisia.
    Authorities in Tunisia have declared a state of emergency, banning public gatherings and ordering security forces to fire on anyone who refuses to comply. Tunisia is in the midst of its worst rioting in decades
    Breaking news————-Tunisia’s President Ben Ali steps down amid ongoing protests and leaves the country ———-

  61. Hi RB dont use police to kill innocent zambians for asking what belongs to them. never use police to kill fellow citizens, we need peace mind you, one day you will need western for your votes dont kill people. dailogue with them, dont kill people , i repeat, you will loose your election

  63. Just discuss this amicably without threats. If no agreement is reached go the sudan way- referendum on breaking away

  64. What a shame indeed.

    Do these people think they will ahieve anything with their riots? It is their own flesh and blood that has been wasted and it is their own nation that they are destroying. Do they really take pride in that?

    Let us pray to God that this is the end of what could have been a worse political tribal massacre in our beloved country.

  66. This is all due to lack of dialogue on the part of GRZ with the Westerners. Sometimes its good to bend backward to please a fool. But alas, RB is again been ill advised of how bad the situation has been in NW.

  68. #60 Nine Chale
    Those in Tunisia have achieved thier goals.The Tunisian President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali has fled the country after declaring a state of emergency as riots escalated in his North African nation. The country’s prime minister, Mohammed Ghannouchi, announced he was assuming power.

  69. The SAINT i mearnt if the agreement came into effect,what will change between Zambia and Barotse (western province) or between me and my Lozi neighbour or workmate?

    The solution to this problem is in the hands of Rupiah and his govt,at this juncture it will not matter what Sata says or did,this is a taste of leadership,the presidency is not all about banqueting and ceremonies,this is it for MMD,KK had his Leshina uprising,Bush had Saddam and Bin Laden,Rupiah has the Bulls and rumours of secession to deal with,whether he uses force,persuasion or dialogue,posterity will judge him,but from were am standing,he’s completely useless to deal with this,i stand to be proved wrong.

    This is what happens when you have a leader who always in the sky travelling

  70. These thugs deserved it, coz they were warned and cautioned about this,let them kill each other the Kenya way. We need peace in this year of election. Westerners you will be guilty of causing a civil war in Zambia be careful.

  71. This is what happens when you have mediocre leadership that only believes in intimidating people instead of engaging them and finding a lasting solution to the problem.

    Govt has lamentably failed to provide leadership on this burning and extremely divisive issue

    MMD is not fit to run the country

  72. It just piss me when people say Sata is the one who is misleading the Mongu thugs…really? So the MaLozi cant think on there own ? This is an insult to the Loziz.

    Let us not lay blame on any person while the truth is there to see by all Loziz. The BRA64 is there and there is a need of finding a lasting solution to this problem. Running away from the problem is not a solution, let us discuss it and solve it once and for all.

    Only a person with small mind and brain would start blaming other people on this BRA64 isue.

    Sad that lives are lost.

  73. What every Zambian is hoping for now is peace in Western provice and not GUNS. Such a nice province and nice people. GRZ should stop threatening the good people of Western Province because they are not criminals but Zambians who just want their voices heard. This is what happens when you take people for granted. Zambian peoples are still suffering but yet the price of copper is at its highest. Some roads in Western province just like many other provinces are unaccessible. For example, the shortest route from Lukulu to Mongu through the plains is nothing to write about, Mongu – Kalabo, If you have been to all provinces and districts in Zambia like I have been, you will agree with me. As I have already mentioned, we need mediators in Western province and not Guns.

  74. This is what happens when you have a government that lacks smart and quality leadership. Government is just watching like evrybody else and the situation is worsening. The issue will not be sorted by shooting lozis. Can government deal with the grievance!

  75. #33 and 48.
    John Phiri, I would go easy on that mind-bending stuff that you take. You are increasingly becoming unhinged and disjointed, a clear indication of a mental problem.

  76. #47 truth.
    Your comments are worrying me & others. Dont spoil the debate fellow. U seem (like Mulongoti) to be so intorelant to opposing views just like the same black bulls of Mongu who are so intorelant & opposed to the existence of other tribes. They, together with you, don’t desrve to be in this age of free expression of ideas. You are busy throwing stones at Sata, Post, Duffy. Hey! We have a national issue to solve man! When others said there is a problem in western, govt (or MMD) was quick to refuse saying there was nothing. this type of irresponsible blaming of the opposition is only rooted in our govt politicians & i guess u rub shoulders with them. we respect MMD, thou we oppose this irresponsibilty by sympathisers like you. Lets debate solutions, not sata, post or whoever.

  78. I thot RB said there was no problem in western province, is this a small problem? Anyways us the ICJ are watching with keen interest and shall cite anyone behind all this nonsense. RB if you do not handle this issue properly there will consequencies. TIMELY WARNING.

  79. # 52, Capitalist, I am not overthrown by what is happening, I am overthrown by my prediction. When you push people for some time, they react. Remember Bob Marley sang that one day the bottom will fall off. You called me genocidal, I am here in the US, never have had contact with the BA people, be it alone dating one. But it is you have no excuse for your failed leadership but blame others.

    If your RB cannot lead, let him step down. In fact he should thank God it is only Western Province protesting. Soon it will be Lusaka and CB for the 80% unemployment. Brace for serious situations MMD. The conditions that MMD have created in Zambia is leading to all these. If MMD/RB/Kunda had shown leadership, all this would not be happening. You reap what you sow. Banda coined Wako ni Wako.Tribalism.

  80. Why don’t we ask ourselves why now? After almost half a century of independence and the drafting of the said document, why have things reached this stage? Almost all the people involved and protesting were not even there when it all begun, why now? What is missing in their lives for them to react to something they even have no knowledge about? What are the prevailing circumstances in the nation for one part to thing of breaking away? How about the development in that area? How is it? How about the leadership in office, have they paid attention to the nation to reduce such from happening? What is their focus in relation with the people? Could it be that people are tired of the sitting government failing to attend their problems? Where is the leadership? Are threats the answer?

  82. #25 maria teresa says:

    Cool down, Sata has nothing to do with Barotseland. He isn’t president yet. Why are you afraid to point out that GRZ and its (mis)leaders is the main culprit?

  83. john phiri is jst a nickname someone is using pls dont take him to bn an easterner jst like other nicknames like RB,sata etc pipo are using

  84. #80, I suppose it all started due to careless talk by some leaders. there is unemplyment in all the provinces but they are all peaceful. the next poorest province after west is luapula but the chaps ar content, why?

  85. Are people now tired and going to sleep after the deaths or they are still on the streets using moon lighting. wish the rains could scatter them for the innocents ones sake. God help Western province and deliver the people inciting.

  86. If nothing is done,there will be bloodshed in Zambia said one Col Panji.This almost got him crucified by the MMD and its supporters.The govt was also warned about the BRE agreement but they never took it serious.And today,we have witnessed what happens when important and burning issues are not handled seriously and carefully.This is an election year and GOD has warned us before hand through one Col Panji,that unless we change,unless the govt does something positive,there will be bloodshed in beloved Zambia.Advisers to RB,give him proper advice.Don’t just look at your selfish interests,but consider all mankind in Zed.GOD loves Zambia and GOD is PEACE..ONE LOVE…AMEN!

  88. Impose marshal law, send in those red ballets to prevent this nonsense from spreading to other parts of the nation.
    I somehow blame Chiluba for this anarchy. Chiluba brought tribalism by elevating the Bembas and the Bemba language. The Lozi being tribal decided to resucitate and regroup as a tirbe having observed the Bemba hagemony. KK promoted One Zambia One Nation because he foresaw this anarchy. But Chiluba hated everything about KK which I think was not a wise thing to do.
    On the other hand may be these anarchist are been used as porns by the multinationals who could have taken advantage of tribalism that Chiluba brought.
    Marshal law should be imposed in western province.

  89. BLOGGERS, EASY!! I CANT BLAME LOZIS. PIPO IN ZAMBIA ARE UPSET CHITUKLIPILA MUKATI…THIS MANIPULATION OF VOTES WILL LAND MMD IN PROBLEMS. DONT EVEN INVOLVE SATA. DONT THINK SATA WENT AND DRAGGED THOSE PIPO TO RIOT. MIND U LOZIS ARE INTELLIGENT AM SURE THEY KNOW WATS GOOD 4 THEM. JUST LIKE I DO KNOW WHAT I WANT AND I DNT SEE IT. RUPI IT SEEMS JST VISTS ZAMBIA AND LIVES OUT SIDE ZAMBIA. I SEE SUCH WITH SUCH PRETENCE IN THE NAME OF PEACE WHEN FEW PIPO ARE CHEWING OUR MONEY, THEY DNT WANT TO TX THE MINES ALL BCOZ THEY GET CUTS….MMD KUYA BEBELE….4GET WESTERN PROVINCE.

  90. But why should people be so foolish as to go and get killed this way. Have they not benefited from the mines on the copperbelt? I think we all as Zambians have benefited from the copper that was mined on the copperbelt. So why should these guys decide to eat alone from the revenues that are likely to be generated from the oil that may be discovered in western province? has anybody stoped any Lozi from setteling anywhere in the country? Has anybody stoped a Lozi from doing business anywhere in the country? So why would they want to chase non Lozi from western province? How can people be so foolish as to be used by these guys?

  91. Ka Mushota you have been too quiet?Have forgotten about Western province in Zambia?How is Scotland and your old white manfriend?Right now in Zed Lozi’s have gone mad,come and talk to them and pump some white sense in their thick big heads filled with nothing but sand and rice..Even if Lozi’s claim to be intelligent,they are all sloppy and uncivilised eg Situmbeko Musokotwane.

  93. Dora Siliya is indeed not fit to comment on this issue of the Barotse Agreement and issue threats. Dora lacks any substantive knowledge on this issue, she reminds of Sarah Palin who showed her ignorance when she described Africa as “a beautiful country”. Dora, just enjoy while you can, and shut up about issues you know least about. Stick to what you are best known for: loud lipstick, brightly coloured suits unrepresentative of the position you were awarded due to the kind duties you performed at the darkest hours. As for Lungu, have you seen that the Army has taken over Tunisia, and the police have no powers? Watch this step. Zambian government is for the people, by the people, and should work for the people, otherwise your job is at stake….Bosnia? Herzegovina? watch this space…

  94. Fellow Zambians do not shoulder the blame on the opposition or the Post Newspaper, this is an issue under the current leadership. Where is the president right now? Busy campaigning in Luapula province probably attacking the opposion. Our President is supposed to address this issue peacefully. Democracy is about dialoque.The Govt.needed to invite this group even to State house and hear their grievance. The acting Govt.spokes person should be fired she is not fit to be in Govt.Our brothers and sisters in Western need peace not war. The Officers involved in the shooting should be charged for murder. Police should have used the latest techniques this is .com generation.

  96. Our Phd students have researched and they have revealed people’s feelings that Sata and its vuvuzela the Post are to blame for encouraging this riotous behaviour in WP. The masses are happy with the Police’s action on the rioters and Radio Lyambai. They recommend the rioters to be charged and locked up for more than 20 years. Our research had revealed that people want a federal state kind of system in Zambia but that should not come through violence. No one tribe should threaten the lives of other tribes in modern day Zambia.

  98. #5 may have a point. just take a look at history and see what has been happening in all regions of the world where catholics claimed to champion the rights of the oppressed/minorities. it is blood carnage; Brazil, El Salvado, Mexico, Ire land, Chile, Rwanda, The Philipines. And most of the brutal leaders in the World have been catholics; Pinochet, Marcos, Mobutu, Bokasa, Boigny, Mugabe. By the way, Guy Fawkes, the chap who entered the British parliament with the honest intention of blowing it up was catholic. The sein fein mentality the Irish Catholic Missionaries are promoting in Barotse has also been promoted in Monze Diocese through one of their radio stations where it is advocated that if you cannot speak tonga then you can not work in the diocese.

  99. the president claimed its jst a few disgruntled opposition cadres agitating 4 violence……well now wat does he has 2 say,am told he is in luapula campaigning,leadership pliz!

  102. Zambia has no leadership, the reason why its imparative to completely change government this year. While you have thieves like Chiluba, RB, Red Rips, Katele, Xavier Chungu not in Jail you can have the rest of the people being very very poor. I implore on all Zambians to stop. Taking everything as business as usual and saying enough is enough, we will not tolerate politicians stealing from us while we remain poor anymore. This is what happens when you have mediocre leadership that only believes in intimidating people instead of engaging them and finding a lasting solution to the problem.

    Govt has lamentably failed to provide leadership on this burning and extremely divisive issue

    MMD is not fit to run the country

  103. The problems in western province is as a result of having thieves for politicians. Just look at the mineral royalty tax, which the MMD Government has stolen. This is suppossed to be good enough money to have been used in developing the qwestern and other provinces. In a nutshell, we currently have very mediocre leadership, THIEVES dinning with fellow thieves assuming everything is okay. I implore everyone to say enough is enough and kick these thieving monkeys out, we need proper development. I suggest my fellow brothers in western province ban MMD there, that will be finish encla.. for them.

  104. Great job Zambia Police. One Zambia One Nation. To all youths: Don’t be stupid. Don’t riot. Study and read your Bible. Focus. Once again, well done GRZ, ZP and RB!!!!

  105. Police are not to blame but the stupid people themselves who are being used,such actions are allowed,even in the bilble any one who was a danger to society were dealt with,eg David and Goliath.So these people want to bring confusion in our beloved country thus stain action from police!

  106. This situation is worrying. This MMD is taking things for granted. You think by killing people you are acting firmly?

  107. Malcom X once said “There is no revolution withiout blood”. We in Western province will go on pressing the government to honour the Barotse Agreement. We’ll rule ourselves one day. There’s oil and natural gas in Western province and that’s why the government can’t let go of Western province.

  109. Black Bull,don’t cheat yourself,where was the Litunga getting mineral royaties from,has there ever been any mine in western province?You people were depending on N/western And C/belt.These two provinces have almost everything thats why you are mistaken and You will never rule yourselves and not even zambia.

  111. The die is cast, these people now have every right to go underground and engage Banda’s terrorist Police and Army with fire. This is the only way this government will listen that people want this agreement restored. As for the likes of Dora, its too rich of this dull girl to allege the youth are being taken advantage of, especially for a whole entire minister who has no clue about the meaning of the word nullity.

  112. History will repeat itself in western province. Angola went to war for more than 30 years, so was Mozambique. Some so called intelligent people in western province are responsible for this mess and RB should just put his foot down meet fire with fire. The net effect is that the province will lag 100 year behind the rest of the country unless all Lozis strewen throught out Zambia start fighting. If this happens then it will be the Lozi Tribe VS the rest of the tribes in Zambia (Tutsi-Hutu situation in Rwanda). Peaceful Lozis will survive. The sarrogates living in the diaspora and agitating this have blood in their own hands. My advice to RB please bring in more tanks and more live ammunition into western province because there are people who like bullets.

  113. Whether you like it or not the game has now been taken to higher level by RB’s stupidness. Lozis in western province have now tasted blood, seeing a brother being killed. That boy was unarmed. All of you guys saying kill the Lozis yo9u are saying that only because you are not Lozi. And that is the very reason why Lozis have always wondered whether it is worth it to be part of Zambia. Next time there will be more fire. Believe me those guys are now going to re-organise. This is going to be another Sudan, until a referendum is held. The government should have first of all told the nation the truth as to what really happened and how things got to where they are today. Sending in Commandos to kill unarmed civilians is only nice if it is not your tribe they are goiung to kill!!!

  115. It is becoming even more evident that the selfish will always bring confusion. When other resources were coming from Southern province & others in terms of Agric production as bread basket there was no noise, the lamba’s copper supported the whole country including some of our selfish colleagues there was no problem and now the roumours of oil and the so called natural gas they want to “rule themselves”. Savimbi hard a similar dream but eventually he had his day, Mushala had his too, some Lozi individuals spearheading this will have their day too. Those chaps thowing stones are just being used by some very selfish Lozis who went to School for free subsidized by the money obtained from copper from the Lamba land.

  116. #113, #114, There is no hating of a tribe but infact it is the opposite, the Lozi people are everwhere in Zambia, including my home town in the far north and we live as brothers. But to hear people say that if you are not Lozi leave the province it is absurd to say the least. Any way you cannot take out a rooted selfish tenence out of an individual.

  117. This so called Pastor in the name of Muyangana Muyangana and his confused wife Grace are confusing the already illiterate Lozi people. That is why it is very difficult trusting so called Pastors these days, because they are in the forefront of agitating for violence all the time. Even in countries like Rwanda, Germany, it was the so called Pastors and Priests who were in the forefront of agitating for killings of fellow citizens.

    How can this man called Pastor Muyangana Muyangana be in the forefront of chasing Luvales, Mbundas from Western province when they are also members of his church? He is a worst tribalist from this land full of sand only!!!!!!

    Shame on you ignorant Lozis!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  118. On a second thought I thought I should advise some of my Lozi Colleagues agitating for cessation from the rest of Zambia at this late hour as follows;
    1.Organize yourselves form a development forum
    2. When the rumoured oil and Natural gas surfaces ask for social development fund contribution from the oil Co. in this case the Barotse oil Co. that has been given the rights to explore for those things in your province.
    3. Encourage some thugs from among the Lozi’s not to be violent as this is pure thuggery and has no place in modern civilization.
    4.Encourage some Lozi’s from dreaming that the only way of enjoying the money from the rumoured oil and natural gas is by ruling themselves.
    5.Stop calling your own police men and women terrorists because some of them are Lozi police.

  119. No 117 SHAKA OZ that kind of talk and derogatory remarks about tribes is what makes such confusion spread. we the zambian people need to be sober when talking to and about each other. this confusion will affect everyone, you in a foreign nation will be ridiculed, the lozis and non lozis. take a breather before you talk

  120. the editorial in the POST newspaper is more sound than it has been since this whole debate started. this is the POST i used to know not the one we have been seeing in the last few months

  122. President Sata and The Post have nothing to do with mayhem in Mongu.Lozis have bottled up the anger for a long time and feelings of being cheated by MMD, despite voting for them,have started exhibiting.The blame should not fall on anyone but history which has been very unfair to people of Western Province.I feel violence is not an answer to such a problem.The answer is voting out MMD because it has not brought development to Western Province.If Westerners continue voting for a dead party in the name of MMD,they should not complain of underdevelopment.Another term for Movement of Mass Destruction,will create a big problem in Zambia.Let us rally behind other parties and we kick out this MMD.Otherwise,we will continue blaming each other for something which is straightforward.

  124. People need to understand that democracy does not mean violence. There are better ways of exercising freedom of speech. Violent demonstrations and looting of shops should not be tolerated. Our youth need to be educated on human rights and how to go about exercising that right in a civil way. It is sad that we are losing lives over land. One Zambia One Nation.

  125. # 93, YOU HAVE A POINT ON BOTH CHARACTERS, SPEAR LUNGO IS FROM THE VIGIRANT ARCHIVE AND DORA SKIRT IS FROM ADIS ABABA, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.

  126. There’s no hatred for Lozis in Zambia, on the contrary, it’s the Lozis who are saying non-Lozis should get out of Western Province – so who hates who here?
    As for the agitators, let them be told that there will not be any discussions with anybody regarding implementation of any agreement on a tribal basis. This is one country – One Zambia One Nation – finish and klaar!
    If by any chance oil gets to be found in Western Province, it will be used the same way other national resources from other provinces have been used – however, they have just been licensed to explore (search) and you cannot start counting your chicks before the eggs have even been laid.

  129. One Zambia One Nation we all say en 4 sure there is a real solution to this in our own mother Zambia. We don’t need outside nations to think for us? God Bless our Nation. My the the souls of the departed rest in peace! Blood was shed 4 our independence but y this 4 mother Zambia is independent? Truth will be availed! Give Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser en God what belongs to God!

  130. MONGU ON FIRE IS DUE TO MMD FAILURE TO DELIVER BASIC SERVICES IN THE REGIONS….MMD HAS FAILED WESTERN PROVINCE..IT IS NOT ABOUT BRE ISSUE..NO, THIS PEOPLE WANT BETTER CLINICS, HOSPITAL AND JOBS IN WESTERN PROVINCE

  131. Part 4 of the Brotse 1964 effectively gives power to the Litunga to run the Western Province as a defacto governor of the area. This should run on the same lines as the UK where Northern Ireland has some extent of autonomy. Kaunda agreed and appended his signature to this part of the agreement but like Obote of Uganda did to the Kabaka on the Buganda Kingdom, he decided to bury this under the carpet. Perhaps he thought that with the passing of the old generation, the new children of Barotse would not know about this agreement.
    However I must agree that I don’t understand part 10. Can some one please explain to me?

  132. I think this is coming up due to poverty in that area and fair play for the people to fight for their freedom and development! needs! By the way, there is no way the lozi will claim CB and north western province! You will have to fight the Bembas, especially for CB! And also you ve got your brothers and sister scattered all over Zambia who have greatly benefited for all the good things this country has offered. Maybe Zambia need to introduce the “Premier” role in all the provinces where by all the provinces have the right to elct their own premier who will dictate the economic direction of the province and avoid the MMD dull folks! The premier of that province will decide which investors will come in and on what terms. Right now, we have a few people worshiping that fat git -RB!

  133. #91 malete ahao..masipa ahao…..what do you mean we all all sloppy and uncivilised.masipa amina kaufela baba lwaha malozi…nonsense..

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