PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has reportedly made a dramatic U-turn and is now seeking reconciliation with the United Party for National Development (UPND) for a possible revival of the defunct political alliance.
Mr Sata is seeking to reconcile with the UPND because he has realised that the MMD will win this year’s elections if the PF does not get into a pact with the UPND.
This is according to an impeccable PF insider who revealed details of a meeting Mr Sata held with his party members on June 13 at the PF secretariat.
The turn-around was precipitated by advice United States Secretary of State Hilary Clinton gave during her recent visit during the AGOA meeting when she met some opposition leaders privately.
The source said during the meeting, Mr Sata launched a scathing attack against fellow party members saying the PF should not have destroyed the pact with the UPND.
Mr Sata said he regrets the move to let the UPND pull out of the pact, especially that during his meeting with United States Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, he was advised that the opposition should be united.
“To this effect, some senior party officials including Kabwata member of Parliament Given Lubinda, PF national chairperson Inonge Wina and consultant Bob Sichinga told Mr Sata to meet UPND president Hakainde Hichilema privately to discuss the possibility of reviving the pact,” the source said.
Mrs Clinton reportedly observed during her meeting with Mr Sata that unseating an incumbent government in most African countries including Zambia is difficult unless the opposition is united.
Mr Sata told his members that Mrs Clinton advised that the opposition should avoid being fragmented and work together to remain strong.
But UPND spokesperson Charles Kakoma said his party is not interested in reviving the PF-UPND pact because the alliance is a dead issue.
Mr Kakoma said in an interview yesterday the UPND has not received any invitation from the PF and it is not privy to information on a possible revival of talks between the two parties.
“We are not interested in reviving the pact. As far as we are concerned, the PF-UPND pact is dead. Our main focus now is the 2011 elections with Hakainde Hichilema as our presidential candidate,” he said.
Mr Kakoma said MrHichilema also met Mrs Clinton but the US Secretary of State did not raise any issues about the opposition merging.
He said the UPND has no time to discuss the PF-UPND pact and has concentrated on campaigning for this year’s elections.
And Committee of Citizens executive director Gregory Chifire said the UPND would be doing injustice to itself if it got back into a pact with the PF.
Mr Chifire said the UPND should not entertain thoughts of reviving the pact with the PF because it can do better without Mr. Sata’s party.
“Mr Sata is panicking and he will do anything to become president of Zambia. If the revelations are true, then it confirms that Mr Sata wants to ride on Mr Hichilema’s back to achieve his goals. Our advice to the UPND is not to entertain MrSata and the PF,” he said.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
Ma ribishi yeka yeka. Daily Mail of lies… very questinable source.
Fyabufi imwe tuma Lsk Times, we know you are promoting HH and his UPND. You are just digging your own grave, that ka fake Matero- trained reporter of yours has even stopped putting his name to his stories. We know hes a brother to one young useless so called politician.
Wapya munzi….Bushe nshamyebele? Too late ba potential Fimo fimo. Start prepasaring for retirement. UPND is gaining ground in the perceived PF strongholds. You said UPND is tribal party led by an under five, why are you interested in it now?
This daily mail which is government owned championing propagada for a political party, remember Don Fred hard a fatal heart attack after meeting the rebel MPs.
Nonsense! Sata will win the presidency with or without the under 5 tribalistic leader. HH must follow Dora’s counsel to stand as a councilor to gain experience. This year ni pa bwato. Hate us or love us 2011 mwakawesu
Its a fact we cant remove mmd as at now unless thru a revolution u remember in egypt just before the revolution mubarak had just won a landslide victory
Its a fact we cant remove mmd as at now unless thru a revolution. u remember in egypt just before the revolution mubarak had just won a landslide victory
This is how pathetic the state media is in Zambia right now.I doubt if even the author believes what she/he has written!!!!! sad.Very sad.
Rubbish nalala ine
LT please please, dont embarrass yourselves with certain stories that you publish. I think am done with your site. I dont see where your intergrity is. No. 9 l agree with you, naine nalala
these old people are all tired and sick. Zambians unite for a common good. Anyhow its the year of the prophecy. The young will rule this year. My appeal to the gallant men and women in upnd is ‘keep on doing what u r doing and trust me its working out’. For those that cant analyse political dinamics, come november some will collapse with shock. As of today i can comfortably say UPND is winning this year.
Iwe chi POOR FUTURE (PF) cader dont even wish revolution in Zambia ni webo street kid tawakwata ukowikala waba ilyobe remove yo father thru revolution
How many times do you have to fail to be called a failure? Sata is a failure. Even in this year`s elections, Sata will fail by a small margin. It is about time he retired from politics. Besides, he has nothing new to offer. Zambians should vote for visionary leadership.
Sata has no morals as displayed by his inconsistencies. Sata is a committed, cunning DEVIL that seeks to deceive and ride on the Tonga votes for his own survival at the exclusion of HH. The Tongas will never forget the insults Sata meted on UPND. Sata has read the true mood of the people of Luapula. Threats that Sata lashed at Chiluba are crystalising into the demise of PF. Sata (a Tanzanian) and Mmembe’s Post mocked FTJ without a clue that Chiluba was a solid pillar for the people of Luapula and most parts of Northern Province. Sata and his die-hard supporters – including The Post must note that “muntu uli onse, muntu wabene, alikwata ulupwa lwakwe”. Sata is panicking because the people of Luapula will prescribe a final lethal political dosage to eliminate PF in Zambia.
Using Chiluba’s funeral has failed now this crap? The Problem with People talking about the pact the more they are crucifying HH. When i read the chifire comment i even knew its propaganda. Lekeni sata ateke.
**== Its with very sad regret as to what the youth see in the P.F. Start counting your un-hatched eggs… Come Sata… Worse problems than we already experiencing & also the more you’ll regret.
OLD LEAVES FALL OUT & NEW ONES SPROUT THEN U SEE GOOD FRUITS..YOUTHS CANT RISE BCOZ OF OLD POLITICIANS WHO ONLY PAVE WAY WHEN DEATH PARTS THEM..YOUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
With Tonga or without them sata predo this year. Tongas don’t talk on behalf of us from luapula talk about stupid tongas
Iwe chi Chobro, #12, ulibwa sana waumfwa? Is it not this rotten MMD which has made our INNOCENT children to be street kids? Who on earth can throw their children in the cold and poverty? Just know that MMD has relegated Zambians close to animal kingdom and that’s why there a REVOLUTION in Zambia this year with Sata preferred as the President to bring sanity to our beautiful nation. So keep quiet and be serious. Viva PF. UPND does not exist and it’s leader HH is not known, there is nothing he has done for Zambia, we are on the ground campaigning.
You sayin Clinton wants MMD out. Then then why….
FTJs Death may have been caused MMD who did not adopt the PF Rebels who are said to be with Chiluba until 18:00hrs friday. We should not blame other pipo for crimes they did not commit. We are living in the world being ruled by satanist and killers. Some pipo wants to gain political capital bkoz of Ftjs funeral. You are loosing big time.
i have always reminded fellow zambians that when you are on a journey you dont put old and slow vehicles in front,it delays arrival…let sata allow young ones to lead,then it will make sense.
#18 … you are very uncivilized & Ignorant no wonder you’re P.F cadre…. Set your facts right.
2011 for fresh blood
Iwe YOUTH #16, every man you see was once a youth. Am sure you have a father who no longer a youth and probably got a grandpa wiser than your father.UPND should not cheat the youth that it will deliver for them simply because HH is 50 yrs. Leadership is not always about being in Government and Sata is the only opposition leader who demonstrated true characters of a leader, he does not wait for election time to speak for the suffering youths and masses for that matter. MMD, HH and others only remember about themselves at times like this assuming that people are so forgetful. Rembember this is 2011 and we have been seeing the love Sata has for this country. The ball game has changed and all parameters solidly indicate that he is winning with or without the traitor HH. Viva Sata, viva PF
How many PF blogger have at least a minimum of grade 12 certificate? I see most of them cannot debate on National issues but only insulting in their language Bemba. This shows how unlearned and lazy they are. Pf supporters with your old Lorry SATA you must be ashamed of yourself, I really get bored reading your comments because there are baseless and meaningless. we in UPND AND MMD don’t want any alliance with you PF. its like sleeping with a snake which later bites you from behind. Takaana you are not welcome sorry for disappointing , we don’t need an alliance with you!!
I forgot to mention in my press release that all local print media should only report matters surrounding President Chilubas’ funeral nothing negative or else I will follow you to your offices and shut you down. My fellow country men and women I have also decided that this mourning period will be a public holiday, all businesses are required to shut down and I want to country to come to a stand still to show respect to our fallen founder of democracy in Zambia. I will be based at Mufwe lodge for these seven days as advise by my doctor. Mr Sata is also banned from attending the funeral house and will be arrested if he shows his face. Please fellow country men and women I watch the TV and listen to the radio for some comfort. Peace I’m out
After reading some of the comments above… I can tell you that people complain of SATA not attending Chiluba’s funeral.. According to the inside source, SATA has been feeling aware for some time now for the past three weeks. Even the time when Clinton was in zambia. She saw that the old man is unwell. She advised him to form alliance to have any chance of unseating the government. This is why, he is talking of reviving the pact, PF supporters are just politiking but the truth, he is unwell… PF hierrachy are trying to see how they can work with UPND because some dought capability of winning on their own. Some are even trying to tell him to be vice president to HH just to make sure opposition form government…Inonge, sichinga and lubinda have already advised him…wait for more newss.!
The sea of faces as far as the eye can see when Mr. Sata addresses rallies is an irrefutable fact. Other facts are scanty. Does he need the support of other formidable parties or influencial political figures to unseat the incumbent? Yes,he does! Credibility. Who is it that also believes in you as I do or should? That can decide the overall vote. Anyway,the picture of Hillary Clinton with Mr.Sata, the body language,a million words! Kind of picture I would love to share and say, look at grandpa, he still has it. How many get to engage a woman of such renowned integrity and depth? More is needed to convince people that lives of people will be better.
viva PF dont waste your vote by voting UPND or MMD
@#8, The post can as well make you vomit,it deepends on which side of the fence you are.
I smell a rat somewhere
The chi man has just woken up to reality to discover that zambia is not only urban areas of the copperbelt ,lusaka province and his village so now he is in the state of panic.
BULLSHIT THE DAILY MAIL IS JUST FABRICATING STORIES .SATA CAN NEVER KNEEL DOWN TO UPND..VIVA SATA
Can some one BA PF Fwaka please convince
me how SATA Na is going to win countrywide
And by what margin??Province by Province.
You have tried the same mathematicss in 2006
2008, what makes you think voting pattern will
change.Zambia is Not Lusak only go to Shangombo
,Chavuma,Petauke,Masaiti,Mumbwa,Mbala,Sinazeze,
Even here nearby Chongwe and we shall see How
Sata na will fare.Word of advise please do not take
To the streets once Mambilima announces Bwezani
As winner.Every election has a LOSER!!! Even for
A fourth time! Lol.
Sata has outlived his political life so as the MMD 20 years MMD has been in power they brought poverty and corruption to its highest paick 7 years LPM has been in GRZ sanity was coming up in the country,10 year Sata has been with MMD half of MMD in power,3 years RB has been on the helm today some craps are saying Sata can bring Sanity,how Sata served and defended corruption for 10 years and when the ball was not in his cort,he resolved to form a great and powerfull party for FOOLS and criminals,thuggs,kaponyas(PF)if people are saying MMD brought poverty street kids and other bad elements in the country so Sata was one of those pioneers of these evil attacks coz he has been there for 10 evil wasted years with them,atlist LPM did something positive when Sata was not there in GRZ,Sata DEVIL
All of a sudden the man has realized what PACT meant! Oh my Gad
please lets not have such hatred towards each other, we are all zambians if its supporting our leaders lets just support without using abusing language or rather insults. for this country to develop we need to unit and put our heads together, we are wasting most of our time insulting each other instead of thinking how to live this country a better place to live in find prepare debates not what happens on this blogg. Bring issues and lets love one other and pray for our leaders both in the govt and the opposition.
Armour fee yeka yeka, fyabufi ifi fyonse bafi colour, ama toll lay ukusensela ba Lusaka times. Stiopet, how come this is the site were there is this foolish article?
more comedy as the political arena gets more read for elections. Now that AGOA is past, after the funeral boys will be separated from real men
From a different source yes not Daily Mail oh please lies lies lies lies lies all over! Try something else, fake lies, blue lies, clear lies call it whatever it will still remain lies!!!
What is UPND? The party only exists in the Southern Province. If PF wants to re-merge with UPND, the advantage will go to UPND not PF. UPND will be more popular as PF will boost its image. I still think PF can do without UPND but they only need them aboard to boost the morale ans ensure MMD does not cheat.
The truth is Sata is inconsistent. PF supporters! dont just trash the negatives you see towards your leader. Take time to analyse his behaviour and you will definately see that he is losing it. The man is not even sure of himself. All he wants is to go and end his days in plot 1. Am not saying he is dying coz no one really knows the time but we have to face it. The bad part in him outweighs the good that you and me want for our country.
@34 could you also take that advise to print media houses, the Post, abusive language is their order of the day just to sell their fabricated paper
@39, precisely! the unfortunate part is that Sata’s supporters deliberately decide not to see his bad side. its like they want to deffend all his evils with every drop of his blood. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeez SATA supporters open your eyes and read between line.
Am sure MMD and PF don’t count on Southern Province because they know Tongas will back their own son as we all expect, now that being the case the winner will be decided by the other 8 provinces – southern province excluded. In other words any vote gained by the two serious and bigger parties(PFand MMD) in that tribal region is a bonus. My prayer is that Southern province give HH 100% of the votes so that they don’t have influence on the outcome of this year’s elections otherwise am afraid RB mighty get more crumbs than our man because of their deadly tribalism against certain tribes
@46, don’t be like an ostrich that buries its head in the sand hoping predators wont notice, UPND is a descent political party with modern tools to comprehend the forces against us.
1) economic colonizations, the southern province has been in the opposition for 10 years but still remains a force in term individual development and progress, that speaks volumes.
2) good education policies intended to uplift a ZAMBIAN from being a worker to an entrepreneur. that is our own engineers doing the roads and not a foreigner.
Don’t be directionless venting your anger, if we support our own, so what? have you ever supported our own yourself? Big no! why? self centered always thinking you are the only people who matter in this country. Furthermore we have voted for others too.
I think you PF cadres MUST be kicking yourselves, here is a leader who changes with the wind and you want him to be president of this country. You insult HH everyday, your dear leader is BEGGING the same HH. Shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing is true, If Sata will Die not entering Red Brick, I will live to see HH gray hair till death without entering Red Brick.
If the Story is true, then Sata’s senses are diminishing rather rapidly. Seek council from Obama not Hilary. Politics in Zambia are a thorn in the fresh.
Iam counting down here from the death of Teta and others to one of the biggest fishes, Kafupi and later VJ. May be, just may be, it will dawn in Zambia where rigging will be the thing of the past. But vote rigging is like Exam leakages, they are both like cancers; now you know that Zambia is infected by illigal activities from the grassroots. These two vices will nevers go away.
The source of this story says it all. There are better things to spend time on than waste it on “Copy & Paste” stories from Daily Mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only problem with PF is that are people like GBM and Sanda going to be in Sata’s cabinet?
Yapya. Mr. Sata, your heart is probably in the right place. You love yourself too much. Please time for you to retire. There is nothing you can offfer that we have not already seen. UPND will have to be most desperate to even revisit the alliance. May it be said again that MMD will retain power with UPND finishing second. PF kaponyas were behind in third place. Ha ha.
My greatest concern is that a beattiful,peaceful land like ours, since 1964 has not developed a strategy for continuity. From The first president,Kaunda, no one knew who would carry us to the next level. FTJ took the nation to another level of dribling in politics. Mwanawasa is the innocent one. Who knows if today he spoke ,he would agree with the nation’s direction? I have known Mr. Sata all my life,why at this time and age,am I being asked to look at him for my future. Something is seriously wrong. And for RB and michael Sata to bobe the only remaining viable choices,something is wrong,obviously wrong with our future,as a country.
As far as this story is concerned, all I can say is “Dream on!”
Coming to those trumpeting the ‘youth card’ on behalf of HH, I would remind them that young presidents are not anything new to Zambia: KK was 40 years old when he became president; Chiluba was 48 years old when he became president. Even LPM was not an old man when he became president. And we have seen how some of these people have messed up things big time. So, youth in itself must not be a factor.
By the way, how old is HH?
and what can we say about the so called independent “newspaper”, the latrine post? lies everyday, it can’t even explain itself why the sata whom mmembe condemned in unflattering words for so many years has now become clean. is it not the same whom mmembe told us that he was the chawama panga man, carried two billion to mmd convention, merzaf flats, $us27,000 abandoned at joburg airport, as recently as 2006 mmembe told us that sata was stinking of corruption and should not be allowed in state house, etc etc all the baddest things in zambia? or is it another person bearing the same name of sata? unless the post explains itself, they are like st.inking typhoid sh.it in comparison to the daily mail and other newspapers.
Manje it’s UPND – Kakoma – who turned away from the pact
ALL THIS INK THE GOVERNMENT IS WASTING BY PUBLISHING USELESS MATERIALS LIKE THIS ONE, WILL COME TO HAUNT THEM IN THE GRAFT CHARGES WHEN WE ASSUME OFFICE IN SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR. AND MR. PRESIDENT, [SATA] PLEASE DO NOT DESPAIR THAT YOU DIDN’T GO TO THAT THIEF’S FUNERAL, REMEMBER WHAT OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID ABOUT THE DEAD; [ REMEMBER THIS GOD HIMSELF THE CREATOR OF LIFE] HE SAID “LET THE DEAD BARRY THEMSELVES”. IN THIS CASE MR. PRESIDENT, I SAY LET THE DEAD PARTY/ PARTIS BARRY ANOTHER DEAD PERSON SA FOR US STILL LIVING, IT’S TIME TO WALK THAT SHORT WALK TO STATE HOUSE, I WISH YOU, ALL THE BEST IN THIS ELECTION MR PRESIDENT. BY THE WAY MR. PRESIDENT SYLVIA MASEBO MY WIFE IS ON OUR SIDE NOW, SHE HAS BROUGHT WITH HER THE ENTIRE CHONGWE CONSTITUENCY AS A PRESENT TO YOU SIR THANKS.
ALL THIS INK THE GOVERNMENT IS WASTING BY PUBLISHING USELESS MATERIALS LIKE THIS ONE, WILL COME TO HAUNT THEM IN THE GRAFT CHARGES WHEN WE ASSUME OFFICE IN SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR. AND MR. PRESIDENT, [SATA] PLEASE DO NOT DESPAIR THAT YOU DIDN’T GO TO THAT THIEF’S FUNERAL, REMEMBER WHAT OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID ABOUT THE DEAD; [ REMEMBER THIS GOD HIMSELF THE CREATOR OF LIFE] HE SAID “LET THE DEAD BARRY THEMSELVES”. IN THIS CASE MR. PRESIDENT, I SAY LET THE DEAD PARTY/ PARTIES BARRY ANOTHER DEAD PERSON AS FOR US STILL LIVING, IT’S TIME TO WALK THAT SHORT WALK TO STATE HOUSE, I WISH YOU, ALL THE BEST IN THIS ELECTION MR PRESIDENT. BY THE WAY MR. PRESIDENT SYLVIA MASEBO MY WIFE IS ON OUR SIDE NOW, SHE HAS BROUGHT WITH HER THE ENTIRE CHONGWE CONSTITUENCY AS A PRESENT TO YOU SIR THANKS.
I think there is a lot of smarts at play here… and Mrs Secretery of State is partly playing along
Knowing that Sata will jump on any suggestion from well established individuals especially if not Zambian he fell for it.
Do you see it yet??? why was it mentioned to Sata but not HH??? thing is in Satas limited capacity (coz of old age) he starts yapping about not realising it makes it look like he is likely to loose without UPND.
He is now making it obvious to a point that even if the election where rigged Chanda the 3thd can even use this same information that even he himself admited he would lose if he didnt work with UPND so all that remains is to make sure HH doesnt agree to go back to the table unless of course they say he will be front runner which is unlikely
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The case of multi-partysm in Zambia is a sorry one. The people of Zambia, in a political sense, are still infantile.
In Zambia, as in other such countries, the ability to belong to a political party on the basis of ideas is yet to take root; it is yet to become cultural. Affiliation by tribe, based on primordial instincts, is primarily dominant.
Multi-partysm, to mean plural politics, is a desirable fixture in any human society. Nonetheless, when practiced by a people still needing the requisite improvement, it can be divisive and dangerous.
Think of standing in your home village, they say.
As you listen to them you wonder what your home village is because you were born in Kitwe though you are Ngoni. Your home village, after all, is Ndeke!
U see u chaps mu UPND dont understand…shi Chilufya has been progressing steadily in he political agenda.hes risen to so great hieghts that my Prayer is for god to jes give em a break throughso that he can liberate this mother land of Zambia. so with or without emwe ba upnd…this year tule abuka…mukapapasana en thats wen u will start defecting to PF…… W A T C H and S E E ..
Here we go again,i said it the main point that sata was convincing his worshipers was to take ba chiluba to prison when he becomes presido now that ba chiluba is gone he realised that he has nothing to offer so thats why he want underfive HH back again.honestly if i were HH i wouldnt even entertain these thoughts.
for change to happen!popo, we need the P.F and UPND together.sata cannot win alone and HH can not win alone,U want it OR NOT.go PACT go PACT.we need u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For now, as developing or under-developed country, we truly are in an interesting developmental bind. But then we are still primitive (Judging from our level of debates), and that is the consolation. Indeed, ours is only a developmental reality on the development curve, only a phase in the evolution of societies.
Plural politics is a desirable way of governance but when thrust upon a community of people deficient of the required fundamentals for its success and left to them to solely manage, it can be very divisive, dangerous and can lead to death and the eventual collapse of government.
In time, we shall get better. Let us just invest wisely.
There is hope
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This is interesting indeed. Wynter Kabimba said and I quote, ” PF is capable of wining the election on its own, having UPND will just be a bonus to make Mr.Sata a majority president’.
End of quote. All such words were meant to frustrate UPND so that they leave the PACT coz Pf thought they had gained popularity at the expense of UPND. Now it has backfired on them!
The tactic has not worked. To hell with you tribalists who think they are superior to all other tribes in this country. Go to hell alone, MORONS!!!!!
Chief Ndake of Petauke/Nyimba district has endorsed HH for president in 2011 elections according to radio phoenix 06:45hrs news.
Like Nokia Banda stated on the other topic, the burden of hate is on those that hate. The hated is at peace. I have a mesage for all of you who hate HH for no reason. The man loves all of you and is ready to work for your good.
hehehe..we saw this coming..sata is rather very late..UPND is not ready to entertain that kind of mediocre leadership exhibited by PF!!the battle rages on..
SATA HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FROM THE START – HE NEVER WANTED THE PACT TO BREAK AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY PF HAS NEVER BEEN ATTACKING HH. ITS UPND THAT HAS BEEN ON THE NECK OF SATA WITH MMD. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT PF DOES NOT NEED UPND TO WIN THIS ELECTION, ITS UPND THAT NEEDS PF. IF SATA GOES BACK TO HH, IT IS JUST BECAUSE HE WANTS A MORE INCUSIVE GOVERNMENT,
Mr Sata and HH if you are truly Zambians please unite for one common goal.The enemy is MMD which need to be removed from power.Ba Kakoma and ba Kalusa think twice and advise HH properly otherwise UPND is heading for doom.HH your members of parliament stand a better chance to even stand in PF controlled areas as MPS under the PACT.Look at what is happening in chiengi and Chongwe ,the people have spoken and they do not want MMD.So ba Kakoma ana ba Kalusa do not look your stomachs alone please think of the people in your villages who are dying because of hunger.Copper is being taken like noman s business.Tax is being levied on copper.Huge taxes are being collected from the meagre salaries Zambian people are getting.Why do you unite guys.Let us change things for the betterment of this nation
That is Micheal Sata for you, full of himself, powe hungry and ready to do anything to be president. Please Mr.Sata, you and your people have insulted HH enough. We dont need a pact with you anymore, you humiliated HH thinking you had finished him. Please make a pact with Panji’s forum al whatever its called. Atase!!!!!!!!!
Heheheheee ! Sorry Cobra, take your venom elsewhere. HH is done with you. He pleaded with you and you stabbed him in the back. You thought you were too smart. Now nature has sorted you out nicely.Go to hell SATAN, go to hell alone!! Take Panji, Mmembe and Sichinga with you, atase!!
A good way to start is to take time to analyze the political manifestos of various political organizations. We also need to be realistic with our expectations what do we want to see being done. What time frame do we expect it to be delivered? What method will a political party use to deliver our wishes?
Take for instance the issue PAYE (what proposal is PF putting forward) is it feasible in 90 days to reduce PAYE. Is it possible to roll out free education for all up to grade 12 (UPND). What are the most realistic contributions can the mines make to the Zambian economy?
Just what is wrong with you bemba brothers? Stop insulting other tribes.It you who are being tribal here. Tongas gave FTJ 100% but we rejected Mazoka in Northern, Luapula and C/B. We are yet again rejecting HH in the same provinces. Who is tribal here? We should learn to co-exist with others. The young man HH is ripe for president. Ba Shikulu is tired and need rest.
If HH was Bemba, the Tongas would not reject him and he would be president by now.
GOOD SHOW this is what i was trying to say, bring real issues thanx for your good contribution
Ba Daily MEAL, mwila tusekesha. When are you going to be factual?
#68, pf are big headed and pompus, yet they dont know that political factors are changing everyday. Let them go it alone since they think they are superior and dont need upnd like they say. The two parties has nothing in common, let alone removing MMD.But just removing MMD is not upnd’s agenda. The party’s agenda is to replace mmd and deliver to the people of Zambia. You cant yoke a shhep and a hyna. The hyna was initially wearing a mask, until the mask dropped accidentally one day. Thats when PF were exposed of their scheming. There was a lot of dirty, including eliminations.
PF killed the pact and pushed upnd out. At all times, the one hurt walks out of a marriage. It PF who killed the pact due to their selfisness, just wanting to “kwakana ifipuna bwangubwangu” without putting any agenda whatsoever. Opportunists! Hynas!! Ba Chimbwi!!
Let PF and Sata have a test of their own bitter pill for disrespecting others. @72 its true that bembas could be tribalistic becoz they rejected Mazoka and HH. while Central, North Western and Central are neutral and read to work with every tribe in Zambia. Sata in big trouble he is going just to be part of history
PRES RELEASE
20TH JANUARY, 2011
UPND CLARIFICATON ON THE PACT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
1. The UPND is aware of, appreciates and understands the anxiety among many Zambians on when a PACT Presidential candidate will be chosen. In response to these queries we wish to clarify and inform the public as follows:
2. On 4th June 2009, UPND and PF signed an agreement which saw the birth of the PACT.
3. The basis of the PACT was to:
• answer the call of many Zambians to work together in unity of purpose;
• win the election with majority votes as opposed to the minority MMD governments, following the 2001, 2006 and 2008 elections;
• foster legitimacy to leadership; and
• Govern the country better to improve lives of Zambians.
Following execution of the agreement, various organs of the PACT were established (Joint National Council, Working Group and Nine Subcommittees) whose main aim was to harmonize programmes of the two parties in order to arrive at a Joint Programme for the country.
5. The UPND strongly believes that a good Economic and Social action programme in various areas, as an instrument for improving lives of Zambians, is of paramount importance. The aforesaid includes reaching consensus on:
• harmonizing our manifestos covering economic and social sectors such as mining (including windfall tax), agriculture, tourism, commerce and industry, education, health, infrastructure (roads, telecoms), water etc;
• size of government. In particular to run a lean and prudent government, i.e. cost control and optimization of government revenue and expenditure;
• running a non politicized and professional civil service;
• sharing responsibilities in government;
• allocation of Local Government (Councillors) and National Assembly (MPs) seats country-wide between UPND and PF;
• devolution of power to the regions of Zambia.
6. We also believe that a number of other important issues should be agreed. For example, there is need to commit to generally acceptable good governance tenets, in particular:
(a) give the citizens of Zambia the long awaited people driven constitution:
• 50% + 1 for winning President;
• Presidential running mate;
• option of coalition government;
• separation of powers with an independent judiciary;
• independent Electoral Commission including non abuse of public resources by political parties before, during and after elections;
• a progressive Bill of Rights and;
• reduction of Presidential powers.
(b) commit to a non selective and professional fight against corruption including reinstating the abuse of office clause in the Anti-Corruption Act.
(c) agree to independence and strengthening of the office of the Auditor General.
7. While it is true that choice of the PACT Presidential candidate is important, the Joint Economic, Social and Good Governance programme is even more important as this is the basis upon which the citizens of Zambia are pinning their hopes on for a better Zambia.
. UPND believes that reaching consensus on the joint Economic, Social and Good Governance programme and the choice of Presidential candidate (together with other positions) should be taken as a package, not in isolation. In any case, the UPND’s considered view is that whoever is chosen to be PACT Presidential candidate should commit to the agreed Economic, Social and Good Governance programme.
9. Learning from Zambia’s past mistakes, we believe that the developmental needs and interests of citizens are important and should always take centre stage. In addition, the need to build effective and well functioning institutions should take precedence and not the usual rush for sharing positions without agreeing a clear programme for running the country.
In our view, the PACT provides a good opportunity to unite Zambia, secure majority leadership, consolidate the rule of law and ensure good governance tenets and practices.
Without agreeing on the issues outlined above, it will be pointless to proceed to choose a PACT Presidential candidate in isolation or abstract.
http://www.zambian-economist.com/2011/01/pact-presidential-candidate-press.html
WITH NO DOUBT, RB IS WINNING. WITH NO DOUBT, THE PACT CAN DISLODGE MMD FROM POWER.
Someone tells you to acompany him hunting coz you are good at shooting. He provides a gun and bullets. He thet tells you that after killing a baffalo, you will just get the ‘ofoz’ while he gets the rest, since you are using his gun and bullets. Ba PF, shame on you!!!
PF-UPND Pact is just like Autocratic-Democracy, where on earth? For now what is ideal is for democrats (MMD and UPND) to work together and move Zambia foward. Give Sata his last punch, it must be so hard that he would not dare try 2016. He is one leader who does not nurture successors, but prefers to use them to get what he wants. HH see how you can work together. He is cheating. He knows well that he is good at losing and this time arround he is losing with a big margin.
RB-HH combination means progress and continuity. It gives Zambians an opportunity to move away from political anarchy to political maturity, a smooth transition befiting a young democracy. Zambians should not entertain parties like PF that supports lumpenism. Surely caring leadership can not encourage our youths to move with red pieces of cloths tied arround their heads like Satanist looking for blood. Such extremists must not be allowed to dent our society. Zambia being a Christian nation should seek out leaders that are Christ like. Cool, caring and accepting that leadership is from God.
whats wrong with these POOR FUTURE(PF) the story of Sata wanting to go back to the UPND IS CORRECT and true and it entails what type of a leader he is, very unprincipled.He now knows that he will never make it to state house.what a joke. and a F.O.O.L
Atase, to hell with these pompus morons. Make a pact with Panji and Fred Mmembe.
If sata and mmembe were good christians and tamed their appetite for insults zambia would have been heaven on earth .These are pipo who have taken insults as malumbo
Mdala Satan siuli serious that’s why Rupiah adzawina futi. HH says you are not presidential material and you continue trying to force yourself on him. Mayazi, forget mdala!!!!!!!
#90 HH aint presidential material either, hehehehehe
# 91, How do you define presidential material? I think a president should have certain attributes such as : 1.education is one important attribute which will make him understand basic economic.2. Consistence is a must. 3.Trust is another.4. Ability to convince people, gifted in addressing people. You can add a few more but of what I’ve aluded to Sata only has one, and that is entertaining people, which I think is the least important. The man has no basic understanding of economic issues.His understanding is limited at a very low level. You cant have a president entirely depending on advisors.
lesa ngalefwaya ukufikilisha ipange lyake pamweo umo, abo bonse abakesha ukuchinga ifalo nokwiminina munshila emo ipalo lifwile ukupita ukulingana nepange lyakwalesa ali nokubanukulamo ukwabula ukufilwa. Watch out bonse ba election liggers. pabwatoooooo!!!
Sorry #91, mesage is meant for #92
sata a man who has no were to go.but sumone says sata is mad what comes in da minds of da pipo. after what he has ben say about da man who will win this year Mr H H.As UPND cnt go back we have for got about the pact.PF for ma MDALAS.Keep it UPND
HH forward. Hillary Clinton forcing SATA to get back to the PACT. Too late. Bembas say, Eko usulile ekopa noko. SATA called HH as under 5, why now cry over spoiled milk? Sata can not win without Southern, Central, North-western and part of Lusaka provinces. Mwanya bakaponya.
No more PACT ba Swine.
UPND ARE IN THIS GAME AS SPOILERS……..THEY WANT TO SPOIL THE SHOW FOR PF….BUT THE FACTS ON THE GROUND ARE THAT PF IS FAR AHEAD OF MMD & UPND COMBINED……LOOK AT THESE FACTS: LUSAKA: PF 70%; MMD 25%; OTHER (+UPND) 05%; CB; PF 80%; MMD 15%; OTHER (+UPND) 05%; NORTHERN; PF 65%; MMD 33%; OTHER (+UPND) 02%; LUAPULA PF 72% MMD 22% OTHER (+UPND) 06% WESTERN; PF 60%; MMD 32% OTHER 08% CENTRAL; PF 55% MMD 40% OTHER 05% N/WESTERN; PF 40% MMD 50% OTHER 10% SOUTHERN; PF 25% MMD 15% UPND 60% EASTERN; PF 35% MMD 60% UPND 5% ……OVERALL RESULT (PRESIDENTIAL) SATA 65% RB 30% HH 04% OTHER 01%………BELIEVE IT OR NOT THESE ARE FACTS…..PF DOES NOT NEED UPND……WHO DOESN’T KNOW THAT UPND ARE JOINING MMD? IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME……BA UPND MAU-LE…..
These figures man, you must tell SATA not UPND…..No one have seen them only you evn sata can see he has no chance what so ever he tries…. I am very sure, he will win copperbelt,, luapula and nothern provinces…These other provinces you are not right,,,, southern, central, western and north-western provinces do not vote for SATA no matter how he tries…believe me…even SATA himself he knows it… Remember, these are provinces made RB to win the elections last,,, just think properly in your small skul, if they decide this time to put on their son HH, sata has realised this facts,,, he has uphill battle to defend both,,,,so even lusaka vote for HH both in rural and town areas,, man stop talking things you dont understand,, your vote is just 1 and your family for sata..
As a Zambian voter, I am not voting for Old men. Its time for a morden brain to lead this country.
#69 fchibsur opening sentence made some kind of sense, but ur so called advice is one sided. Why is ur so called advice targeted towards Kapita and Kalusa and not summer oh! my bad winter Kabimba or gay scott. This is the problem UPND was facing when they were in the pact with PF.always being undermined. I suggest u direct ur “advice” to ba Pinto pa Fwaka to put their house in order before a sensible person can have a productive talk with them.
Donchi Kufyona kaponya, you are dreaming my boy. Satan will never enter state house as head of state for reasons beyond your understanding. Dream on boy!
How many people have you searched today? We know you are a lazo!
I think ,its time we zambia should fine an economical manager to manager zambia. the only person is HH……….sata is is unwell that much we know…..let a young man take over like what has happened in Britain and USA…….VIVA HH…..watch muvi Tv every sunday and hear what real change will do for this mother zambia……..VIVA HH.VIVA UPND………2011 the year for real change….bravo youth…….we need this man pa zed…
Ba Political Failure (PF) have woken up now. The die is almost cast. Its now becoming clear that after all, depsite the media black out, HH has made inroads into the Movement for multi party Demagogues (MMD) and Pilotical Failure. we are going to shock you chaps. If you become too embroiled, we shall make you swim in your own political mad-pools, God willing. Sata is old and about to die (ask Wynter), and ala bee is tired and is runing show thru sillly-ya and sons. HH is the next president. So ba pumbafu ba PF, wake up.
Fellow Zambians, who needs the PACT PF or UPND? Let face it SATA just wanted opposition parties to be united, how did MMD take out UNIP? It was one single strong opposition.
This is why we can’t move forward because some of you young bloggers behave just like the same Old leaders. I mean all of them RB, SATA including the villager HH. It is a shame that you can misinterpret as good advice by Hillary.
Put up proper suggestions than behaving like old people with redundant brains.
What is it that you see wrong in UNITY? Wake up ZAMBIANS!!!!