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UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema
UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema-Accused of being undemocratic

Opposition United Party for National Development (UPND) president Hakainde Hichilema has confirmed that his party was holding consultations with other political parties on the candidate his party will support for election as Speaker of the National Assembly.

Mr. Hichilema told ZANIS today that said there was therefore no need for the media to speculate on his party’s preferred candidate for election to the office of Speaker of National Assembly.

He however described reports that UPND and MMD are planning to field veteran politician Vernon Mwaanga as a candidate for Speaker of the National Assembly as innuendos intended to dent the image of the opposition political party.

He said the nation will be informed of the candidate his party will support for election as Speaker of the National Assembly once consultations are completed.

Mr. Hichilema was commenting on reports that the UPND has been meeting with the MMD to discuss the formation of a voting pact in parliament.

He said his party reserves the right to meet and consult any political party in the country.

He said the UPND will remain committed to providing checks and balances to the government in order to promote good governance and democracy in the running of national affairs.

He said the UPND will support progressive and positive policies adding that negative and retrogressive policies will be criticised and rejected.

There have been reports in some sections of the media that the UPND and the MMD have been meeting to form a voting pact in parliament to frustrate the ruling Patriotic Front (PF).

ZANIS

83 COMMENTS

  1. What do you expect from an under five ? Go ahead and form that pact with MMD we have always known that you have been working in MMDs favour.

  2. If you know whats good for you HH, work with SATA, not against him. RB is not worth your political survival. His time has gome. Taking advise from him will only help you dig your political grave. He wants as many people with him ‘down’ there as he can.

  3. PF says HH is not a factor and yet they are so jittery with his associations. Here is the truth you brainless kaponyas———We UPND supporters have encouraged HH form an alliance with the MMD on various issues. If this causes stomach upsets for you —go hang !

    • HH is a crook/thief. HH is bosting that has money, that young man has stolen MINERs zccm terminal benefits 2gether with ka dribla chiluba ftj. Miners r crying bcoz of HH & V. chitalu in austrelia. and v.mwanga also is a thief & drug dealer. HH is a failure.

    • This sounds like hate to me. Go hang is not a friendly way of telling someone to “deal with it”. I think you’re bitter and envious. You know yourself that alone HH is not a factor. Be careful of sleeping with a dirty partner lest the dirt rubs on to you too.

    • your HH & your Tonga tribal party have no place in a non-tribal Zambia. You are the one to go hang because aside southern province Tonga tribal party is nothing boy

    • How great it is to be a brainless Kaponya because you rule, govern and make fundamental decisions that affect the lives of the stupi.d, fooli.sh and parochial elites and their families. Then the *****.ic elite envy you and wish they were kaponyas too

  4. I THINK THAT ELIAS CHIPIMO IS INTOUCH WITH POLITICS OF THE 21ST CENTUARY AND HE IS RHODES SCHOLAR AND UNZA EX GRADUATE LAWYER WITH OF THE LARGEST INDUSTRIAL LAW FIRM IN ZAMBIA HE HAS OVERSEEN AND REPRESENTED MULTINATIONALS BUT HH NO WE NEED A LIVELY TOMGA OF THE 21 ST CENTUARY NOT A DWANZY ONE LIKE HH MAZOKA WAS BETTER

  5. Brainless are those with no vision of their own and stable ground to hold check and balance. PF in opposition never made any pact in parliament to be stumbling block. HH and BR are the plunderers of the national treasury. Vernon is known for rigging elections, is he going to continue in the parliament? We shall demo against that move if you thick you have absolute power to out vote good policies. Go ahead and you shall see shocks of your life. Just when we are just recovering from the nonsence of MMD and you start the other silly things. Go a head HH and RB.

  6. There is nothing sinister about HH meeting RB. Not only are they citizens who enjoy freedom of Association but they are both leaders of the opposition which means there will be more meetings between the two between now and the next election cycle because they share a common goal of unseating the current GRZ. From the immature comments sometimes I wonder what the average age for the readership of LT is!

  7. Under 5 learn to be a real man who don`t seek always ideas from other political parties,,, you will lose respect pipo are building for you… Last time it was with PF now you have again started,, be careful ,MMD will finish you up na 2016 tawakaitembe bwino

  8. HH, I salute you for your consistence, at the opportune time you are going to rule Zambia. Surely it is necessarry to provide checks and balances. Going by the way the reformed UNIP- through MMD (PF) is doing things the support of the people will quickly wane unless their actions translate into some sound policy which benefits the ordinary people. .Undoing what others have done for the sake of it does not add value to anything. If we are told that Mathani who flouted our own laws has to be given back “Finance Bank” without the due court process then we are in for it. Much as i wish the PF to succeed for the benefit of all Zambians, I would like that good sustainable sysytems are put in place. SATA instructing everyone do do this do that will plunge us in a worse situation than Zim.

    • i agree with u learn to respect leaders RB is no more as persident so stop institn him HH will be the next president i know how the pple of zed behave

  9. HH is always gona be second or third best..coz of big political miscalulations…failure to stick with a PF pact..and another one of alignin with MMD… Lets face it Zambia is still about stomach politics,,.before we know it PF will get the defection required be majority…HH enjoys being a spoiler…now he is spoiling himself…

  10. We have already started Hero Worshiping. opposition meet, its a crime and is reported in the negative. Pls allow them to meet to discuss their trush and give them some good space in the Public media.

  11. We have already started Hero Worshiping. opposition meet, its a crime and is reported in the negative. Pls allow them to meet to discuss their trash and give them some good space in the Public media.

  12. HH will never forgive Sata for not making him the pact president. To make matters worse,Sata is the president. One thing I have come to discover in life is that people who are full of jealous and hatred for others dont progress. HH is finished. Chipimo will overtake him shortly. The boy is focused and matured. Another Matured Bemba in offing as a potential leader, then you even complain. Tell your people to behave like leaders if you want a president from your region.

    Zambians will vote for anyone irrespective of the tribe as long as he is able to convince them that he is good leader and he will unite the country.

  13. Where are HH advisers? Sata became president not so much because people wanted him, (43% yes) but because people got tired and hated MMD. Sata was just a recipient of people’s hatred for RB and MMD (and Dora). For a HH to go to MMD at a point when people are still hating on MMD is a bad political situation. learn from the Politician Sata. Read the mood od the pipo and go along. Why do you think Sata never named a stadium RB or FTJ. Coz he knows that right now, RB (and by extension FTJ) are not in good books with a good part of the population. HH, please learn to read the mood in the country.

  14. Sata became president because he was bemba, nothing else. had he been nkoya, lunda, lozi etc bembas would not have voted for him in the same way they did not vote for Mazoka in 2001. HH is not tribalistic as some i.d.iots are saying here. What has  Elias Chipimo done so far apart from being bemba for someone to say that he will soon overtake HH? watch out what you say with your behaviour

    • No need to be angry. The elders of Southern province did say, after Mazoka died (MHSRIP) that only a Tonga should be the next president of UPND. There is no denying that the UPND campaign was pushed mostly by Tonga speakers. When the pact died and it was clear that HH had no shot at the presidency many Tonga people said its better we continue with RB than with Sata. What was so good about Sata that UPND agreed to make a pact with him? When did he change? Come on guys. Find a better leader than Under Five, and you just might get my vote next time around.

    • Sata did not become president because he was Bemba. Saying that simply means bembas are the majority which is not true. Like someone already said, being a president needs reading the mood of the people. HH is not doing that but working against us. Though am his tribesman, it does not make sense to support him when he associates with my enemy. He should learn to stand on his on instead of seeking to use his friends to fulfil his ambitions.

    • tell them mwandi
      i have just realised some zed pple are kaponyas we do not crically think abt the real situation but just open their mouth anyhow leave RB alone leave the old man alone

  15. who sold FTJ’s institute for political studies(its now a banks complex at arcades), we should have sent HH there to learn a few mor political tricks

  16. Kwena mulichipuba chamutonga ba HH, Zambians have shamed you. you thot you were smater than Sata and wanted to ride on his populality, your kaparty is only known in SP. if you want to become president, change your name and your tribe maybe i can think of giving you a vote. know that Zambians are now focusing on Chipimo

  17. Different political parties to strategise on among other things how to vote is a by-product of a democratic process. So I do not see anything wrong with the two or more parties meeting. However, I have a problem with them suggesting Vernon Mwaanga for any position. That man has no integrity. He lied before Parliament and his case was never disposed of as he resigned immediately. I agree with #14, HH’s advisors need to steer him clear of RB for now. Let the election dust settle down and gauge the mood of the nation before making your move.

  18. This man always miscalculates. He really needs to understand and read the mood of the country. MMD and its RB have been rejected overwhelmingly. I have never seen such rejection where pipo even go to the extent of dressing dogs with a partys material. AND HH wants an association with such a party. HH grow up man. Young and promising but u end nowhere with such miscalculations.

  19. Bantubotawe copala
    HH is jst a noise maker finished loser who has no guts to stand by himself don’t be dull to compare him wit mazoka wake up u p n d , pf is ruling sata keep it rolling we behind you.

    • Indeed don’t compare late Andy Mazoka with HH. Andy was a man of the people of Zambia. He was above tribal. The mistake UPND made was not to filled either Patrick Chisanga or Sakwiba to succeed Andy. MHSRIP

  20. You brainless Kaponyas can you teach HH strategy? If Forbes magazine was to make a line up of smartest businesmen in Africa, the only name that can come out of Zambia is HH. Can you mention one PF minister you can compare HH to? Most of you chaps here are just labourers and cleaners. The PF cabinet is full of retirees who can only earn a living from tax payers. The whole PF cabinet put together cannot match HH`s brains.

    • So how come you and your HH lost the election then? Continue with this “smartness” of yours and we’ll see you continue losing.

    • #One Zambia, your pseudo name does not tally with your thinking. HH lost because he is not bemba, period! There is no other explanation. Just as bembas did not vote for Mazoka in 2001, bembas voted for Mwanawasa in 2001 because he was backed by their fellow bemba, Chiluba. However, God is a fair one, time will come when you will test your own medicine1

  21. From the grapevine, HH is campaigning to be the Speaker. He is afraid that he might fall into political oblivion before next elections. He was just handed the Zambian Constitution showing him that it is not 90 days for next the elections as he was made to believe by his handlers, but FIVE SOLID YEARS of Sata in President’s Office, his former PACT colleague that he ditched.

  22. # 21 Keke, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You seem and sound like walapena boyi. HH will not appear anywhere. Not even Mumbila Newspaper. He is liability to himself. And he is Tonga just in case you forgot. Probably you should ask Forbes Magazine to list where HH got his money. That would be the most important listing were HH would appear. Sadly, your smartest guy got spanked clean by what we all know as the shrewdest political powerhouse, Michael Chilufya Sata.
    About people cleaning and being laborers, sadly, no one feeds in your house. In fact for you to rush to that shows how shallow your thinking is. What if people are cleaners or laborers, are you saying they cannot say anything about your HH and his foolishness? About retirees, so what? If you want you can just retire too. People’s choice

  23. Kalos2121— i thought i asked a specific question, that give me a name in Sata`s cabinet that can be compared to HH. You gave me zero name! About HH being tonga, most of you bembas have no class, you complain about tongas and yet the only place you go on holiday to in Zambia is Southern Province. Are you not ashamed? Tongas have looked after there places well. They have not destroyed them with crime like you guys!

  24. # 24 Keke, nomba Chainama is knocking at your doors. Bembas have no class? Are you a retard? Who brought class to Zambia? Tongas? You must be sick. Class: Is the middle name for every Bemba. Bembas going to Southern Province, for what? Why didn’t you say go to Victoria Falls? Which Bemba do you see going to Choma, Pemba, or Zimba? So in your dreams you think Tongas built Victoria Falls? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Kwena ulimuwelewele. Instead of having class, you need classes about Bembas. Tongas walk with ITT radios on their shoulders and you call that class? Ubepelefye.

    About names, compare HH with what? I cannot mention names of Under 5 Kids here. It is against the law. Those are the ones I can compare HH to. Your big headed HH will never lead Zambia at all. AT ALL.

  25. You are mostly not looking at zambia for development. Zambia has had presidents with a heart for forgiveness. LPM fought corruption but he was not vincdictive. Chiluba was vindictive and he died a sad man. Learn to forgive and others will forgive you. I do not agree with what RB and his MMD bulldogs did but to be honest, recover the money where it was stolen and let them free without it. Allow the law to take its course and them just let them scot free. You do not benefit as a state by having too many prisoners. What do you realistically expect George Kunda to do in prison? Can he do manual work and grow vegetables? Be sincere with each other and learn to forgive if someone admits wrong doing. Punish all the unrepentant criminals but forgive those who own up. That is part of maturity.

  26. 15 Kashimani, you say people are proposing Chipimo simply becoz he is bemba – are you really serious???? Do you think he has done nothing for people to start talking about him??? Well, for one, he came fifth ( i think) in the presidential elections, walloping seasoned names such as Magande, Nawakwi, Miyanda etc – so THERE IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING TO HIS MESSAGE that you are oblivious to. If it was simply that he was bemba, he would have then split Sata’s vote, & we would still have RBish. Please try to analyse with a balanced head, & drop your tribal hatred, it won’t take you or anyone else anywhere, what you will get is a Rwanda or Bosnia – BUT NEVER THE PRESIDENCY THAT YOU SO MUCH DESIRE!!!

  27. Keke, my friend, dont you find it embarrassing that you are so smart yet you were out-smarted by Kaponyas and cleaners and retirees as you call them? I’m neither Tonga nor Bemba, and the fact that we supported Mazoka so overwhelmingly should show you that we’re not tribalist. Your party just lost it. To prove my point, are you Tonga? Do you support UPND? I rest my case.

  28. Just two buses for GBM beats your HH WITH QUESTIONABLE BILLIONS. Can a senseble person boast of this (riches) ?CHILDISH

  29. HH is unique. This is a baby who wants to walk before he crawls. He’s never been to parliament, he’s never won any political position, not even ward chairman but he wants to be president. At least his friend FTJ has won some ‘erections’ in the labour movement and hence involved in labour politics. Calculator is not enough Mr Under-five, test political life in the lower ranks first, that way you’ll learn politics. You can’t jump from Grade 1 to Grade 12.

  30. HH is full of himself! We all know that he will NEVER rule Zambia,whatever happens.
    Him Associating with RB, will soon come to an end, cause RB will be in chukus soon. Kaunda managed to unite all the 72 tribes, apart from one,the TONGAS. Amabisi,atase bakolwe!

  31. You pipo dot be prophets of doom. HH has all the chances of becoming President as long as he learns to listen to others not his alttude of (me i myself only) thats how he lost it wih the PF by now under 5 was going to be VP,. First UDA. PF, and now MMD. I hope the MMD allows him to be the BOSS which I doubt. To frustrate PF will be an up hill battle i can asure you my HH.

  32. Bembas, I would like to ask you to tone down on your bad language, insults and hatred for HH. You can call Lozis and Tongas anything but I want to tell you that your insults are sinking deep and will be remembered by these pipo 5 years from now. I know you are excited about your winning but nga mwalikwete amano, you would be thanking the same HH you are demonising for reducing RB’s margins in Southern, western, northwestern and Central provinces. Without HH standing, your sata would have lost to RB and this is a fact you can’t pretend not to know. Personally I feel both you and UPND wanted change but UPND wanted newness in leadership and not the circus of the freedom fighters we are seeing now recycling themselves over and over. Let us just co-exist and respect each other.

  33. UPND s slowly becomin irrelevant to Zambin politics, mariage with MMD in whatevr form is a recipe for political demise, ask UNIP wht happens after losing power!!! Any UPND membrs who dont survive on hand outs frrom HH need to tell him, he in on wrong path!!!!

  34. #29 you are spot on, when Mazoka was head of upnd there was no this tong trash being talk about, The party had a national face. I was one of the founder members in ndola but i am from the east. the challange HH has is to but a national face to upnd b4 2016, then he can be there otherwise. there are new under fives on the polotical scene like Chipimo watch is so astute

  35. I am amazed that Sata can complain about the calibre of the DCs when it was him as MMD National Secretary who recommended those names to FTJ as a vehicle through which the ‘third term’ campaign could be propagated to every town of this country. Remember the time of Joshua Mutisa on the Copperbelt, Bwalya, Manjata, Kadobi and Esther Nakawala in Lusaka. Joshua and bwalya went on to become DCs for Kitwe and Lusaka respectively. What you pipo fail to understand is the fact that Sata has removed these DCs to replace them with PF District executive members countrywide in line with the PF constitution. Just watch the list of appointees soon. I feel DCs, having been appointed by the office of the president were to be respected on dismissing them and given not less than a month to wind up.

  36. When the Bembas term is over by any means, we shall have some gud arrests as we did in 2001. Its bin a long time since they stole. Leave the tuma baboons to feast for now. Pipo didnt vote 4 Sata coz hs Bemba. Change is wht evry 1 wanted. But sme Bembas thinks othwz! We know how to get u. Can monkey enjoy a feast in peace?

  37. Editor, I think we have some sick people blogging here and their hate speech should not be allowed under guise of freedom of speech. There is nowhere in the world where hate speech is permissible. Let them discuss principles and objective political view points and not hate speech.

  38. Good advice to the UPND,your party has been going down not becoz your party is bad but you decided to bring in a leader that has no vision and is not analytical-right now his popularity has been going down 24 to and now to 18% and you still want to continue with him ..are u telling me there are no better persons than him in UPND..PF had bad results at start but they kept on improving but with you it is the opposite..if you do not analyse your issues your party then will never form govt bcoz NAREP is more serious and may form govt soon or later. HH needs to retire, I got him on ZNBC yesterday,he appeared to be a frastrated man,he looked bitter…he must be regrating something-his eyes can tell…all the best UPND

  39. it is true that most of the tongas are jeolous people look at this under five chap he is always against what ever the president does.chi colour you are now confused with cow dungs you have killed upnd. some of the mmd guys you are consulting tulinabo kale mubwato mambala iwe.

  40. ELIAS CHIPIMO ONLY GOT 0.4% OF THE VOLTS HH IS LEARNING ONE OR TWO THINGS. HE SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED MMD IN THE LAST ELECTION AND DEFENITLEY HE SHOULD HAVE WON THE NEXT ELECTION. HOWEVER HOPE IS STILL THERE. iN PALIAMNET THE OPPOSSION ARE MORE THAN THE RULING pf. SATA WILL MAKE A LOT OF CONSTITUTION ERRORS JUST LIKE WHAT HE HAS ALREADY DOING. hE IS YET TO MAKE BIG ONES (VICE PRESIDENT) THEN IMPEACHING WILL BE EASY

  41. We must avoid name calling, insults and bad language. We are all one regardless of tribe. Gala 3:26-29. We are children of God. Personally, i believe this is more important than being Bemba, Lozi, Nyanga and whatever tribe on earth. Remeber, every human being is created in fearfully and wonderfully in the image of God. (Gen 1:26, Psalms 139:14) No one therefore has any right to insult, call names or hate anyone because when we do that we are offending the creator who stated that all he has created is good. This inculudes tongas, Bembas, Lozis and all the tribes we have in Zambia. I wish to state that i love you all regardless of your differences and my appeal to all of you is to Love one another regardless of tribe. God bless you all

  42. Though having an opposition speaker in parliament is ideal for the protection of the rights of Zambians VJ would be a wrong choice because it wouldn’t even take two sittings for him to start frequenting state house for favours and crumbs-Spineless Tonga bull.

  43. bembas don’t forget that bembas can’t even make 50% of zambian population.people will turn against you do not think all the people who voted for sata are bembas if you don’t know try
    to carry a research and you find that bembas are far to make the majority,that is the reason why your sata has go to other province apart from bemba provinces lets learn to be together we depend on each other.

  44. it suprises me how youths in Zambia can start thinkin so low. time to talk abt which tribe is wat is long gone, wat we need is any zambian with a sober mind, with courage and an interlectual to lead this country. we should learn to leav as one pipo in this country and not bing tribal, go to any district and you will find ZAMBIANS from all the corners, guyz grow up take leardership as serious businss. stop bieng petyyyyyyyyy.

  45. @ Bemba I IIuminati. Dot bring tribe in politics. if you surpport chipimo because he is bemba it is very unfortunate. then the calling of HH as under 5 is not genuine but on tribe grounds by people like you who think that only one tribe can rule this country. Lets leave tribe matters to the Chiefs.

  46. @WALAMWA I ADMIRE YOU I WISH WE HAD 1,000,000 ZAMBIANS OF YOUR THINKING CAPACITY. PLEASE CONTINUE EDUCATING THESE TRIBLIST. I SALUTE YOU KEEP IT UP.

  47. #16 Kashimani……whats your problem?
    and Keke, stop being so childish (LOSER).
    # 26 Kalos2121…..very funny
    I am Bemba (thank God), and if all bembas are kaponyas, I am proud to be part of this team. I think His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Micheal Chilufya Sata should thank the people of Zambia, from all corners of the country. People voted wisely and they just needed a smart man to rule them. Thank you all

  48. here comes HH, i think HH thinks lower than a rat, those who can see, you can see the face of a bitter person, if HH remained with SATA, he would have been a vice president by now but instead he will always be a loser

  49. look at who HH is supporting for the position of speaker, really supporting a self confessed drug baron, thats bad, maybe he is also involved in drug trafficking. let HH stop politics or he will be broke baba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. PEOPLE LET US LEARN TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, HH BEING AN OPPORTUNIST WHATS A
    PACT WITH MMD SO THAT WHEN RB FINALY RETIRES HE CONTROLS THE PACT.

  51. PF needs to be frustrate so they dont think they own zambia, zambia is bigger than an political party in this country. RB & HH, make sure u plan wisely so that you, opposition have the last say in the house. Whoever has a last say, has the authority:-\”

  52. I like the way people come so strong to tongas. It shows how powerful these tongas are. Give a tonga a chance to do something, they never fail. The fear most of these debators have is hard working. We need to think, work hard and enjoy from our fruits of work. I stay in the copperbelt and it is easy to insult in bemba than any other luanguage. So most of people are actually not bembas but just speak the luanguage. They are just denting the bemba speaking people.

  53. HH….THERE YOU GO AGAIN! YOU ARE SUCH AN EMBARASSMENT TO US TONGAS. YOU ARE MORE AND MORE PAVING WAY FOR ELIAS CHIPIMO. PLEASE GROW UP. AS AN OPPOSITION PARTY YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING THE OPPOSITION PARY (PF)THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE RULING PARTY( MMD) DON’T JUST KEEP ON YOU CONDEMING. SHAKA SAID NEVER LEAVE AN ENEMY BEHIND. WHO IS YOUR ADVISER? SATA WON THIS ELECTION BECAUSE HE LISTENED TO ANYONE INCLUDING KAPONAYS!

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