Zambia has lost its first game of 2013 today with 2-0 friendly defeat to Angola played at Dobsonville Stadium in Johannesburg.
Angola took the lead in the 30th minute through Gerard to see the Palanca Negras take a 1-0 halftime lead.
The Palancas Negras made sure of their fifth excessive unbeaten run in the buildup when 70th minute substitute Amaro sealed the victory in the 85th minute.
For Zambia it was their third successive buildup defeat defeats following a 1-0 loss to Tanzania on December 22 in Dar-es-Salaam and a 2-1 defeat in Dammam away to Saudi Arabia on December 5.
Zambia trace their last win to November 14 when they beat South Africa 1-0 in the Nelson Mandela Challenge at Soccer City.
Starting Line-ups
Zambia: Kalililo Kakonje GK, Davies Nkausu, Stoppila Sunzu, Hichani Himoonde, Joseph Musonda, Mukuka Mulenga, Shadreck Malambo, Isaac Chansa, Rainford Kalaba, Collins Mbesuma, Chris Katongo
Amgola: Lamá; Lunguinha, Danny Bastos, Miguel, Lollipop, Manuel, Mateus Galiano, Mingo Bille, Geraldo and William
Too bad for Zambia. Why are we being humiliated like this from the time Zambia became champions sure? Or maybe its just another way of making these teams think we are going to be just as bad during the Africa Cup Champions, and the opposite will be true and Zambia will emerge the Champs again.
Now you start to ask the important questions; when the tournament is days away!
Its not too late to change the sangwapo coach or we must forget retaining the cup. Renard has never built his own team other than the one built by Bonneti.
He is initiative challenged and has no idea how to have a winning team in place.
Much as we all would love to retain the championship, but at the rate we are doing things, chance of that happening is almost nil
We should just prepare ourselves for more embarrasing defeats at the tutorship of the division three French coach
Another consecutive loss…there is FAZ calling this an “International training match”…where in world have you heard of??That only applies when you are playing a foreign club…this is an International friendly match. Don’t be surprised when the likes of Angola surpass us on the FIFA ranking table as we have a “laid back” approach to these games. Just imagine how many points the have obtained from this match??
This game has no effect on FIFA rankings because it was played on non-FIFA international match day. As for the result, sad that we lost but but yet again, i think the game was not about winning but creating the best combinations and systems no wonder HR played 22 players (11 in each half).
Go to the FIFA website NOW and read the rules and study their formula….this is the selfsame reason most Zambians don’t read always making assumptions.
Wake up!!!
Wining the cup is easy but very dificult to keep winning all the time – such is footaball – insansa ku chinjana!
This is just a friendly game used for fine tuning. Just wait and see when AFCON starts it will be different. Which player wants to get injuired at this point in time and who cares about results at this point. Hold your fire HR knows aht he is doing and I for one is not worried
Clearly you do not have the slightest clue what it entails to be called Champions…Spain are the champions of Europe and the world because they take every game seriously. You won’t read about them losing 2 nil to a small team.
Wake up and stop making excuses for the FAZ empty suits!!
THERE IS TRUTH IN YOUR WORDS. THANKS FOR TELLING THEM OFF
We will defend the cup whether CAF likes it or not
Why is she holding something else and not your?
You’re only as good as your last game.
Careful about trying to win a game using your mouth, unless it is a shouting match.
We have no depth, no supply lines for new players and talent and an over inflated self image.
Its just a friendly and I like it when we lose because that makes us wake up and do better in the finals. Go Go Zambia, we are with you all the way.
I dont care wether they renard knoz wht he z doing or not,I feel he hs nt jst managed the team well. we want to win,we want to live like champs.
A team needs to have an attitude of winning. If they lose too much they get used to losing. Zambia should be demolishing opposition right now not strugglling against nonentities such as Uganda Tanzania South africa who stopped featuring at AFCON ages ago. By the way I understand this wasn’t a FIFA sanctioned match and as such has no bearing on the rankinggs. That’s why the two teams each featured 22 players but 4 me a loss is a loss.
It may not be a FIFA sanctioned friendly match or have the same importance BUT it is still recognised and also confederation weight strengths do apply hence carries points.It is best you look at the FIFA ranking formula on their website to get a good idea…
Form your team which will be winning all days
Sorry sir do your homework. A friendly game MAY count for the rankings. But a training match doesn’t. Zambia has had plenty such training matches like the one vs South africa before 2012 finals. Friendly games that don’t count include those against club sideS or the Nigeria-Catalunya match last week
Please go to the FIFA website and study the formula used for calculating these FIFA ranking points…zoom in on the (I) which equates to the importance of the match… in the formula for calculating the importance of the match. So who was a officiating the match yesterday? Was it not CAF accredited officials? Were we not playing another nation?
Come back to me when you have read the whole “FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking Procedures” page on that website.
Wake up let’s be serious people!!
Why oh why do you think the likes of ALGERIA are highly ranked (19) than us (41)?????? Its because they have played a lot of these so called “International Training Matches” with teams highly ranked than them. You keep reading FAZ website and their FB Page you will be mislead and cheated.
Wake up!!
Just because your FAZ crooks call it an “International Training match” it does NOT make it one!!
mwe baba. I don’t need to go there I know the rules unlike u who researches on the web. What u r referring me to is not helping ur argument. Check those very xplanations at FIFA. The first thing they do is tell you what matches count. The matches that count are International A matches They are in 4 categories starting with a Friendly going upwards. Training matches don’t feature anywhere. Any of those categorised matches have to follow FIFA laws. Do u know those laws? Law3 states that substitutions are restricted to 3 for a competitive game. In a friendly they are restricted to 6. In this game 11 players were substituted for a single team. From ur numerous responses here u seem to be more obsessed with winning an argument than gaining knowledge. R U in the Kamanga football association?
That selfsame LAW 3 – THE NUMBER OF PLAYERS on page 17 also states that:
Number of substitutions
Other matches
In national “A” team matches, up to a maximum of six substitutes may be
used.
In all other matches, a greater number of substitutes may be used provided
that:
• the teams concerned reach agreement on a maximum number
• the referee is informed before the match
If the referee is not informed, or if no agreement is reached before the match,
no more than six substitutes are allowed.
Exactly! Now go back and read the part on WHICH games count.
To make things easier for you: “In all other matches,” here refers to the matches outside the cetegorised games that count.
Hence the reason you should look at the FIFA Ranking page and look at the importance of the match….as for Law 3; in a friendly match a team can make substitutions provided that this agreed beforehand with the match official….Algeria played a lot of these games before the went to the world cup in RSA.
Show us these training games that Algeria won and earned points from. Their higher ranking against Zambia’s has nothing to do with training matches. They beat Zambia in World Cup qualifiers(the highest category of FIFA matches) twice and won qualification with 4 wins against Zambia’s One win. They then played a few friendlies (not training matches) before going on to participate in the finals where they drew one game when Zambia wasn’t playing. They also reached the AfCON semis in the same year. If they don’t do well at AFCON 2013 and Zambia does they will fall below Zambia because the 2009 World Cup games fall off.
Let’s agree to disagree the first point is this match was an international match secondly there is no such thing as International training match; only exists behind closed doors or against a league side or another foreign side that is not a national team. Thirdly this was a friendly match and consent was requested by both parties to field more than 6 subs.
I end there.
Good day!!
Serve yourself. BUt the FIFA rankings will only adhere to their rules
Let me put this issue to bed now; friend let me advise you to go to the ranking table and specially click on the country ANGOLA and tell me the last two friendlies that country had and the possible points accumulated. You will see that the late friendly the played was against ZAMBIA which happens to be the game last weekend.
Thank you very much and bye bye!!
* the last….
I knw u zambians we have excuse 4 ur loose, y won’t u? A champion by fluke is a champion by fluke no other name to call it, just wait till january 25th when the super eagles we kick dat ur naughty ass by 5-0.
No, IFE, you are wrong, you don’t beat highly rated teams like Senegal, Ivory Coast, Ghana in a row and call it a fluke. Please just accept Zambia is the champion and will defend the trophy successfully. The Super Eagles will be roasted and trashed in South Africa. Be afraid, very afraid.
IFE has a limited vocabulary so fluke is what pops out when he is looking for a word to describe Zambia’s victory in a final Nigeria never played in because they couldn’t qualify. Couldn’t qualify!! Nigeria with 2000 professional players in Europe from a 160 million population!!
Chipolopolo will do well come AFCON 2013. Please just continue buying the tickets.
Funny how much faith Zambians continue to show for a team that has lost ALL but ONE of its friendlies since becoming champions of Africa. These poor performances suggest we are counting on the euphoria of 2012, which as we all know, doesn’t win tropies.
Agree
Zambia qualified for afcon unlike super eagles who get knocked out by small teams. We shall teach the eagles a lesson just as we did ivory coast, Senegal and Ghana.
African football is bizarre. Egypt won three consecutive Africa cup trophies but failed to qualify for the world cup during the same period!
Becoming No.1 is one thing but maintaining that position is another. Others are eying that same position and immediately you become sloppy another team takes over the slot one position. Other teams are playing their lungs out just to tell team Zambia that it is beatable and no longer deserves number one place. And if we go in big headed, we shall come out the tail of the group. Watch out team Zambia, watch over your shoulders, run the finishing line is always so near, you risk being overtaken just on the finishing line itself and kiss good bye to number one slot.
These players on my list should be droped,
Chamnaga
Kililo
Felix
Chintu
Then things will be good.
I agree with u….ASAP!
Yes especially Chamanga and Felix i dont know how much these guys gave kalu they are picked at the expense of good players like Singuluma, Kola, Fwayo, Sate Sate, Kangwa name them
renard should immediatly change strategy the current one isnt working.Has he run out of ideas or may be his allowances have issues again with FAZ. DISSSSAPPPOINTED
Nigeria WILL beat Zambia by at least 2 goals….mark my words!
Anything is possible as the West African’s are focused on giving Zambia a good hiding…last time we went there as underdogs like we always did at AFCON tournaments nobody saw us coming BUT this time we are going there as Champions and everyone wants to knock us off our perch. Its never too late for HR though!!!
I AM HERE FROM ETHIOPIA.PLSE IT DOESNT MATTER ITS FRIENDLY.LOSS IS A LOSS THE PLAYERS DONT WANA BE INJURED THATS Y WE LOST” PLSE THE ANGOLANS ARE PLAYIN FRIENDLY , THEY DONT WANA BE INJURED TOO. UR TIME IS OVER.NIGERIANS TIME IS OVER.NOW ITS TIME FOR ETHIOPIA!!CALLIN AFRICANS .HELLO BROTHERS.!WAIT AND SEE!!
Just one super bullet will do for the eagles; as for the rest, prick them with half bullets. That will be adequate to send them back. Chipolopolo should reserve enough ammunition, though, for final round and bring back the Afcon Cup to where it belongs. Best wishes Chipolopolo!
LOSING ALL THE FRIENDLY GAMES AND YOU ARE DREAMING OF DEFENDING THE CUP.THESE RESULTS ARE SHOWING US THAT ZAMBIA WONT GO FAR IN THIS COMING TOURNAMENT.ITS SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVEN BY LAYMEN LIKE US
Renard OUT- FIRED. Bring in Keegan Mumba & Beston to assist Jaza….
How on earth can Renard use Kalilo Kankoje, or is it way to justify why this was his last game in Chipolopolo?
Renard wants to be sure he has a good stand in goalkeeper. Mweene is not in form and even Free State Stars are not using him regularly. As for Keegan he flopped badly with the tupolopolo. Whoever takes over from Renard will have to be a very good coach cos after the win in Gabon the standards have been lifted very high. Only the club coach who will lift the champions league will be raising his hand for the Chipolopolo job.
Otherwise all team was good with 6 midfielders.
The confidence in the team is now nxt to zero….we now praying 4 a miracle to happen.
Ba KALU bankalisa.nvula ikankalisa iononga.Can’t someone else take over? wake up Zambia to borrow jay jay ‘s words.
for sure angola has heaped misery on you lot .the players, coaching staff and the real chipolopolo fans don’t read much in these prep matches..they are only played to help plan ahead. pressure is not on chipolopolo to prove anything..pressure is on the other teams who need to prove that they can win the cup…15 teams..and we only need to play 6 games to retain the cup. so the more friendlies played the better we become and mind any team can become rusty after not being together for a while..and angola is not a small team. they have played at the world cup..remember when they knocked out nigeria on their way???? so let these ethiopian and nigerian bloggers have a peace of mind for now but once the games start..thats when we separate boys from men.
Loosing is not good what’s ever some players are too old like chamanga musonda collins, change some of these guys katongo brothers wake up Zambia.any way I dint warry much even when we don’t retain the cup but we are champs after 40 yrs Thank you lord
I don’t know what you guys are all yapping about. THE COACH who built the team that won the AFCON was NOT Herve Renard, it WAS BONITA!! Bonita is not there and his skill in the players is now gone and we will now see what Herve Renard can actually achieve without Bonita’s help. Herve Renard took over just before the last AFCON and found the team was already prepared. If you want to know the truth, the truth is Zambia will be lucky to reach the quarter finals at this AFCON. Herve Renard is c.r.a.p, if he was good he would have left Zambia by now. Nobody seems surprised that after winning AFCON Herve received no offers from other countries…why?…because they analysed and saw he is c.r.a.p. Zambia as usual are typically far less analytical and instead even gave him citizenship…LoL!!
Mutu please get your facts right. Your soccer knowledge on the chipolopolo is very limited. For your information it was actually Herve Renard who discoverd most of the players that Bonette coached when he was with Zambia.
@ Chipolopolo – There has never been anything like ‘discovering’ players in Zambia because there are always very few stars playing for top clubs and abroad. So I don’t know what you are on about Herve Renard discovering players…never heard that one before. Boneti would still have arrived at the same list of players because the choice pa Zambia is always limited to playing stars. That apart, Boneti is the one who actually built and trained the team. Unfortunately they fired him before AFCON, so I maintain my argument that Herve Renard is c.r.a.p. Actually there is no need to argue here…AFCON 2013 is only a couple of weeks from now and we will find out who is right between me and you. I hope you remember my words when it begins to unravel for Herve Renard and Zambia. Good luck Zed!
And in 2010? Bonetti built the team? *****. Why not shut your beak if you have nothing to say
Guys please use facts and not emotions when commenting on the Chipolopolo performance against Angola. Don’t duell very much on the loss against Angola. I watched the game live and clearly Herve Renard was using the game to assess the players. Tell me which normal coach would substitute the entire starting eleven and use a different team in the second half. Actually Herve Renard didn’t look moved by the result or did he panick during the game. However, the Angola coach was all over the sidelines giving instructions to his players clearly showing the difference in the two coaches intetions for the game. Please judge the chipolopolo after the Ethopia game.
Chipolopolo – how many friendlies have you won since the last AFCON? Even our qualifying games have been about surviving, not confident wins. We were recently embarrassed in Tanzania, and now Angola, and you still call that ‘fine tuning’? Did you actually speak to Herve Renard, or you are second-guessing him? Let is be realistic here. Friendlies are played to win, you fine tune AFTER the game. If you fine-tune DURING the game, it shows you are as desparate for a win as the other guy you are plaing against. Or else, if you are right then Herve Renard has very strange coaching strategies, and no wonder the team has been performing below par. Good luck to us!
Sense
Do you build confidence in players by losing three matches in a row? This is a wrong way of fine-tuning. Anyway let the games begin and we will see the “positive” effect of losing preparatory matches.
Excellent comment and observation, its all about what the coach wants to achive in a particular game, friendly games are good for gambling, i think it is also a good strategy our oponents now think we are finshed
I get to wonder why some of the so called Zambians are big time pessimists. Some of you pipo appear to have been disappointed when we lifted the Afcon. Please change citizenship to Nigeria or any other country you *****s. Leave us alone we patriots. Why do you owez focus on negatives. How can a true thinking individual claim that we have lost all the games since being crowned as champs. What about Ghana world cup qualifier and also the game in which we beat Uganda. By the way the cranes are no push overs especially at home. So I have some advice for you if you still are a prophet of doom. Move your brains out of your ass.Period!
Chuck – this is a democracy. Don’t force people to think like you do. Some people lead very successful lives so they are very confident about their sense of judgement. Partriotism is not equal to s.t.u.p.i.d.i.ty. Partriotism is not equivalent to i.d.i.o.t.i.c optimism. Partriotism is about being proud even when you are losing. I am partriotic and realise we are losing, so Iam just being realistic about it …and so are others doing the same. For you who believes that just being partriotic will change your fortunes at AFCON 2013, well good luck to your strategy and I still respect it without insulting you. So respect other people’s views. We must all cheer our team together even when we disagree on strategy. That is called being civilized.
MUTU thanx for your reply. I still wudnt agree with the comments about the so called misery people seem to heap on our team. They are they same pipo that never gave our team any chance in hell to do anything close to what we achieved and it was all politics and the faz factions coming in. My brother let them tell me which competitive match we have lost and they can claim whatever they want. All am saying is even if it’s a democracy, this is football and we will only have one Zambia here. Let’s have a little trust in our team and wish them the best. Thanx!
Oh no, this is terrifying, for me as much as i want to give myself hope, am afraid am loosing it, no words no words at all, i think i wont watch period!
Lets face this depressing situation realistically. The loses Chipolopolo has suffered since AFCON is having a profound negative effect on all of us. If we go into the games with a set mind that we’ll loose, it could be a self-fulfilling prophesy. Ok, we still have one friendly game to re-establish and prove that we are a force to reckon with. If we loose again, God forbid, we will have written our epitaph and might as well just surrender the trophy and avoid embarrassment by the likes of the Super Eagles who would like nothing better than to demonstrate to us that we are soccer midgets.
Close your beak parrot
You cant read much into this game.Hold your fire Zedians,hold your fire! We will retain the cup if it was meant to be and of cause when we come up with the best first eleven.This is Renards biggest problem and he always gambles.Why hasnt he announced the 23 players by now?We all know them.He should focus on tactics,aggression, combination and co-ordination.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
Renard, if you are listening, please listen good. The game your guys are playing is too boring. They are not attacking but instead they pass the ball backward. If they will not be aggressive and attacking, Zambia will be out in the first round. Take these words as serious as keeping your Job.
Peace and Prosperity to mother Zambia.
These friendly dont count. what matters is the AFCON games. We won the mandela cup…why break our legs now.
So why don’t you play behind closed doors then…if you have a casual approach towards these matches!!
You are right , it was the same thing in the last tornarment, our preparations were not giving good results. The best teams in preparation matchies do not always win the cup
Hop that listed doesnt give us whats on de coach’s mind. It was good to suspect KK in goal coz I ve doubts he is a good numba 2. As for those small boys in Mukuka and the other, we appreciate their skill but they are not ripe for the stage. The next games,HR shud use his probable squared.
I love the strategy of the Zambian coach, even in the last tornarment, our record on the preparations was not good, in fact our striking force was not getting the results, just wait and see the games are just a few days from now
yOU CAN SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO SAY..BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING…I WILL JUDGE HR AND HIS TEAM AFTER THE COMPETITION….
The postings here shows why the coach should never listen to Fans. He should obey his strategy. Never that of the fans.
Chance does not come twice, only once and off it goes. For those of you who are having hope in the chipolopolo boys, be ready to die of depression during the afcon. Last year it was chance which favoured them, as at now our team is not a team we can count on. There are teams, and teams, like Ivory Coast, that is a team.