Heritage Party President Brigadier General Godfrey Miyanda has question the process used to lift Former President Rupiah Banda’s immunity. In a statement released to the media, citing several flaws, General Miyanda questioned the rationale behind the summoning of the former head of State despite the fact that the Justice Minister Wynter Kabimba telling the nation that the Government was ready to go to trial and the investigating wings had completed their work.
Below is the full statement.
STATEMENT BY BRIGADIER GENERAL GODFREY MIYANDA ON THE PURPORTED LIFTING OF THE IMMUNITY OF FORMER PRESIDENT RUPIAH BWEZANI BANDA
An analyst and human rights activist has urged that in view of the purported lifting of the immunity of former President Rupiah Banda (RB) debate be stopped;
I disagree. It is important to continue debate regarding the process in spite of RB’s new status because this is another assault by the executive on one of the pillars of our democracy: the legislature.
Those proceedings were conducted in bad faith as they were predetermined and the Motion itself is flawed.
Bad faith arises because of the questionable process schemed by the Executive, including bringing this contentious constitutional issue on the last day of seating and holding a caucus to instruct the PF MPs and opposition Deputy Ministers how to vote; the issue is not partisan but constitutional and legal.
[pullquote]Bad faith arises because of the questionable process schemed by the Executive, including bringing this contentious constitutional issue on the last day of seating and holding a caucus to instruct the PF MPs and opposition Deputy Ministers how to vote[/pullquote]
Further, some MPs supporting the Motion introduced prejudicial and extraneous matters. Honourable Nkandu Luo gave ‘evidence’ that President Banda spent one million dollars in her Munali constituency. Honourable Panji Kaunda gave ‘evidence’ about his family without formally declaring interest; another MP claimed that for 20 years his constituency has not been developed and that all this time his people had been suffering. These submissions were prejudicial.
These MPs are potential witnesses who should give evidence on oath and be cross examined at the trial. Are these the grounds for lifting RB’s immunity? Was he answerable for what happened 20 years ago? Interestingly why not mention 49 years ago?
The Motion is flawed because it is speculative and inconclusive. It is not for the accused former President to prove his innocence or provide the proof before he is arraigned and prosecuted.
I contend that a motion under Art 43 is like an indictment or a criminal charge in the ordinary courts because the direct outcome of an affirmative resolution is the trial and punishment of the former President. Hence in such proceedings the National Assembly acts as a quasi-court.
[pullquote]Are these the grounds for lifting RB’s immunity? Was he answerable for what happened 20 years ago? Interestingly why not mention 49 years ago?[/pullquote]
I contend that proceedings under Article 43 (3) are akin to a Preliminary Inquiry (PI) in a subordinate court, verifying and determining whether the allegations indicated meet the requirements set in the specific provision under which the Motion has been moved.
I say so because the purpose of a PI in a criminal proceeding is not to try the accused but to establish whether there are sufficient grounds to warrant sending a case to the appropriate court to try the matter because the court conducting the PI has no jurisdiction to try the case but acts as a sieve for another court. The proceedings in a PI are inconclusive, just like the proceedings in the National Assembly, as they do not try the accused but refer him or her to the ordinary courts of the land.
Additionally the ingredients of the Motion were never debated by any of the supporters of the Motion, including the Minister who moved the Motion.
[pullquote]Who informed the GJIT of the resolution, when and how? Did the Speaker or his office communicate to the GJIT in the night for them to summon RB based on the proceedings that were concluded on Friday after 19.00 hours?[/pullquote]
Last but not least the fast-tracking of the GJIT summons to President Banda is suspicious. The Motion was debated on Friday 15th March, 2013 and within hours they had issued their summons that was covered by the media.
Who informed the GJIT of the resolution, when and how? Did the Speaker or his office communicate to the GJIT in the night for them to summon RB based on the proceedings that were concluded on Friday after 19.00 hours?
It is the practice of Parliament to edit the record of proceedings before passing them as a true record. This includes circulating the verbatim record to be corrected by MPs who debated. Has editing been done?
There is no need to summon President Banda to answer questions. The Minister informed the House that the State was ready to proceed to trial because the GJIT had finalized their investigations.
[pullquote]There is no need to summon President Banda to answer questions. The Minister informed the House that the State was ready to proceed to trial because the GJIT had finalized their investigations.[/pullquote]
Did he lie to the members? Besides, Article 43 is intended to prosecute a former President after removing his or her shield; that is why the Motion has to disclose in full what the acts are that bring the allegations within the ambit of that Article.
To interview him may amount to badgering and harassing him. Is the State not ready and do they now want to go fishing for evidence?
THE STATE MUST GO TO COURT WITH THE CASE THEY HAVE LAID BEFORE THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY WHICH THE MPs ENDORSED AND RESOLVED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, unless they are now not ready! The State should not be allowed to bring other charges that were not determined by the National Assembly.
It is the duty of the accusers to prove their case before he can respond, that is if the court finds him with a case to answer. If there is no case to answer end of story; there are no short cuts in these proceedings.
GODFREY MIYANDA,
BRIGADIER GENERAL,
A VERY CONCERNED CITIZEN
This general is like an opportunistic infections.He only appears when it suits him.Good observation though not good enough sir.
its *****s like you who always want to say something at anything that are opportunistic. the man only speaks when it is appropriate
Miyanda ceased being relevant in politics years ago. He is water under the bridge
your analysis and observations are valid, no wonder you were Pro-se during your treason trial under KK and successfully petitioned to have your rank bestowed and benefits paid when KK withdrew your commission (Brig.Gen.) and dishonorably discharged you from the Zambia Army.
On the other hand you need to do more than come up with articles like this. Be on the ground, mobilize, its the only sure way to attract people to join you.
We currently don’t have credible leaders in opposition that can strategize without resorting to violence.
The legal and procedural issues raised by the General are indeed valid. If we are going to set a precedent let us do it right and not through shortcuts. The very procedures are put in place to protect the rights of all people. Let us not encourage incompetence and mediocrity by just supporting from a partisan point of view. When the govt makes a move, it must be seen as well thought out, clear and in the best interest of the nation. #We need to raise the standards of our political discourse and institutions#
And the lifting of FTJ’s immunity by LPM?
Surely do Zambians know exactly what they want?
I think the General is being more political than he is being logical. Sad indeed.
I am wondering whether we have elders in this country.
Not sure what will happen when all our founding fathers are taken home.
I always thought General Miyanda was a statesman. But the big man needs to prove my new position about him wrong.
miyanda has some valid question, which need answers. He is not protecting RB, he just wants the law to be followed properly thats it.
But you demonic followers are so thick headed that you cannot think beyond today. MWANYA! that man you are worshippering has things growing between his legs, it won`t be long before you sleep outside by the fire fatherless.. idolless!
your analysis and observations are valid, no wonder you were Pro-se during your treason trial under KK & successfully petitioned to have your rank bestowed and benefits paid when KK withdrew your commission (Brig.Gen.) and subsequently dishonorably discharged you from the Zambia Army.
On the other hand you need to do more than come up with articles like this. Be on the ground, mobilize, its the only sure way to attract people to join you.
We currently don’t have credible leaders in opposition that can strategize without resorting to violence.
And sadly even their newspaper, the watchdog does not help their cause coz it glorifies & supports violence & it insult and demonize the current govt, but every other Zambian who supports or appear to support govt
why not post my contribution…
It is govts duty to be seen to be fair in all dealings. Let us not think from a partisan view. RB can be made to pay or even have his immunity removed but let us not rush and do it wrongly. When FTJ lost his immunity the seriousness of the matter made Levy to address the nation through parliament. It should not be about a battle between kabimba & RB but it should be about strengthening and improving our institutions. A vindictive and shallow leadership is headed on a very destructive path. Criticism should bring the best out of us not the opposite. Take on board Miyanda’s concerns, it won’t kill you
Chanda, you are one of those useful fools Armsterdam talks about. Learn to think before yapping. Viva General Miyanda.
Reason and logic would lead me to believe that the basis for lifting a former president’s immunity need not be exactly the same as the basis for prosecution. There might be only one case only warranting the lifting of immunity and perhaps more that are worthy of prosecution! But then, I’m not a lawwyer, and you never know with with law!!
If only we had people like you sir in this governement
Man man I tell you its so painful that Miyanda just come to help us briefly and goes to continue his peaceful life.
He is a wise man, many of people Imagine Miyanda & RB formed a government, one of them being a vice-president,.. I stop, chilakalipa.
Chiluba and Mwanawasa tried that but the man was so obsessed with becoming president even when he did not have followers. He is not as wise as people portray him, otherwise with all the opportnities he was offered, he would have been president by now. But he refused an olive branch from Mwanawasa for him to be vice president and now he’s a one man party all because of his personal and selfish motives.
The PF Tribal dictatorship has gone mad. It should be stopped before it completely sinks the country into the sewers. It has no respect for the law nor the institutions of the State. Enough is Enough!
Thank you General. You are another wise man from the East!
I guess the General is right only because he is from the East.
Blah,blah,blah,typical of jaw,jaw politics.So what is the correct procedure?The Gen.can be too academic also.What should it matter whether an issue is brought on the first,day,middle or last day of sitting?Bane lets not give “licence to steal” to our leaders.Doing nothing would have been bad faith
AMA GENERALS BA KABWALI ABA. THE MAN IS SUCH A DULL GENERAL ONE WONDER IF SUCH A GENERAL CAN EVEN STAND A FLY ON THE BATTLE FRONT.
How short our memories are. MMD removed the abuse of office clause so thatthey can still and they stole. RB was the one fan the theft. Have we 4goten that easly? Left him answer for his sins. Sata also will have to answer for his
let him answer for whatever,but ba miyanda is just saying follow the procedure to lift imunity. pantu from what i read as the crimes for RB,the case is not so strong,so what will happen is they will need to dig up more vindicating cases against RB which they are not allowed since the imunity lifting is based on the cases they presented to parliament. so they might actually make it easy for RB to go Scott free because they didnt take time to present a powerful case to parliament to lift his immunity. thats all the general is saying.
Ba Miyanda…….Mmmmm kaleee!!! Are you still in politics? You are so straight and usually people dont like such Characters.
i feel so depressed today!! dont know Y
Too bad.Watch a movie or something.
Take a glass of wine you will be ok you can do that at launch, avoid emotional people, music movies, do something and most definately avoid internet, it is more depressing especially news from Africa!
You are a let down sir, when people needed you most you went under. Rupiah was misbehaving and you were silent. Whats wrong with you sir? I have a few questions for you hope you can be man enough to respond. Why do you always appear to be commenting at wrong times? Kindly tell the nation what your plans for this country are. We will never buy the village concept any more as it has been overtaken by time. So just tell us if you are a coward General or not. Time to make records straight sir
MR MIYANDA SIR, YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MAN RB STOLE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM TAX PAYERS AND HIS SONS ALSO MADE LOT OF DUBIOUS DEALS AND RUPIA HAS ALSO MADE LOT OF ILLEGAL DEALS WITH INDIANS FROM EASTERN PROVINCE FOR EXAMPLE SABLE TRANSPORT.PLZ DONT CRUCIFY PF GOVT IF YOU HAVE YOUR PERSONAL DIFFERENCES WITH PRESIDENT SATA. WE ZAMBIANS WANT JUSTICE AND LIFTING RB IMMUNITY IS THE RIGHT THING.WHY IS EVERYBODY CONCERNED ABOUT RB IF THIS MAN DID NOT STEAL THAN WHY SHOULD HE OR YOU WORRY ABOUT IT.LET HIM PROVE NOT GUILTY IN THE COURT OF LAW .
Who reported that the money was stolen? Can you prove in a court of law how, where and when he stole the money you are hallucinating about? Typical of pf morons!
@wanzelu how can we prove that in the court of law when your RB doesnt want to be taken to court…? Get real lets meet in court if you are innocent as you claim to be.
He is accused of stealing a total of ABOUT $11m not billions of dollars twapapata
Where the gold that the PF found in central bank?
Chimbwii, multiply US$11 million by the current exchange rate and that should give you the answer because even by USA standards, that’s a lot of man which even the USA President Obama does not have. Stop trivialising this issue please and let the law take its course.
BA BROTHER MIYANDA DO NOT LET POLITICS MAKE YOU LOOK DIRTY. SUPPOSE IN THE PROCESS IT IS DISCOVERED THAT RB ALSO STOLE ANOTHER K50BN, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD KEEP QUIET ABOUT THAT?
No, please. You have misquoted the Genrl. All what the general is concerned about is the procedure. He is not saying do not remove RB’S immunity but follow laid down procedures. Immediately you are seen to make short cuts it makes the whole process to be planned and no fair hearing will be guarranteed. When you rush you crush.
Instead of blaming the PF, why not blame the stupid opposition MP’s who walked out and owing to their action permitted the remaining MP’s to vote on it.
Politics of playing to the gallery.Be your own man.Where were you all this time ? Now you think it is the right time to come out of the shadows ? Oh please !!
For those of you politicising constitutional issues, shame on you. Gen. Miyanda made some very pertinent and irrefutable observations. Why the rush? where is RB going to run to? there is a rotten fish in this and I am having none of it either. To you Sir, thank you for opening our eyes and educating us on how the system SHOULD work. God bless you and may he save our nation from this evil.
Are you kidding? Where is his son Henry now?
Gen Miyanda ati process? What process? The dual processes we have are one for Sata’s cohorts (with special treatment) and a shifty one for his detractors.
The General isn’t disputing whether RB stole or not. That’s for the courts to determine. Rather he’s analyzing the process by which parliament deliberated in lifting the immunity. He’s suggesting that it was flawed thereby rendering the motive questionable. The. General is a one man think tank and draws a lot of his intelligence from his elite training from Uk’s Sandhurst Military academy. The man is articulate and alert. To have such men as the General is really refreshing in this era of “thinkers” like Kabimba and Mwaliteta. This puts Matibini and his handlers on the spot.
but the Gen questions the speedy way of the debate and how fast theGJIT put together pieces to take RB to courts..really he wanted them to take 5 years or 13 years..? this is nosense in as much as he is right on other things but not this issue…the chap stole and its his turn to go and defend himself before the law…eish
I beg to disagree with you General on this issue, firstly I would like to point out to you that theres no harm in debating on the last day, further more you questioned the way GJIT put together all facts and your concern is they did it so fast, are you telling me that they have taken 10 years to the pieces together..? how fast the GJIT works has to show you how serious this issue is to the nation and they want it done and dusted but you think otherwise..really General..?
Further are you suggesting that who ever gets into state house can steal from the poor and be a free man like nothing happened..? I am really disappointed in you sir I hope you retract your statement for it is damaging and an insult to tax payers.
I beg to disagree with you General on this issue, firstly I would like to point out to you that theres no harm in debating on the last day, further more you questioned the way GJIT put together all facts and your concern is they did it so fast, are you telling me that they have taken 10 years to the pieces together..? how fast the GJIT works has to show you how serious this issue is to the nation and they want it done and dusted but you think otherwise..really General..?
Further are you suggesting that who ever gets into state house can steal from the poor and be a free man like nothing happened..? I am really disappointed in you sir I hope you retract your statement for it is damaging and an insult to tax payers. Thanks
You can’t even read let alone understand the General’s statement! Not surprising though, you are just confirming what all reasonable people already know, that sensibleness is allien to all pf cadres!
Wanzelu muli nzelu not everyone who differs with you is a pf cadre and I dont refer to anyone as a upnd cadre..so to say the least….he who sees himself to wise is a fool…its biblical…dont worry you will come around one day…have noticed the questions I raised in my comment..?
Sorry am multi-tasking..I meant have you noticed the questions I raised..? thank you
Big L, that is exactly what I meant when I said you did not understand the General’s statement; is there anywhere in the General’s statement where he’s suggesting that RB should not be prosecuted for “stealing”? Why call RB for questioning when the justification for lifting his immunity was that the GJIT had already done its homework? This is where lack of sensibleness come in Bwana!!
Thank you General for the well elaborate presentation. Is the general a layer other being a soldier? do any one know.
The general is not a lawyer but an administrator. He has very good understanding of Parliamentary and court procedures. He does not hire a lawyer to represent him in court.
Ba expired General naimwe muleikalafye! What is your problem? Mind you that process is what is provided for in our republican constitution. Instead of attacking the people that executed that process, attack the constitution and provide alternatives on how the constitution should be other wise you are just making irritating noise! Check the provisions of Article 43(3) of our constitution and you find that the MPs who did the needful did not falter at all! Rest well General!
Ba Munyelo; you are refusing to appreciate what the General is saying just because he is exposing the short falls of the process adopted. The constitution provides for lifting of immunity and the general isn’t questioning that. Firstly, he cites the interference of the executive by whipping into line of the PF MP’s and poached MP’s to vote in a certain way to suit the desired objective and the cunning way the motion was introduced. At a time when a) it was known that a number of opposition MP’s wouldn’t be around and on the last day of parliament seating so that the motion wouldnt be re-visited. The General has always been consistent and is a more sobre minded individual than alot of the leaders of our political parties. He is as it were, the head corner stone that was rejected.
Is this General retired or still in active service? I have noticed that he always signs off as “GODFREY MIYANDA, BRIGADIER GENERAL”, but does not indicate that he is retired or not, by adding “retired” or “Rtd” after his title as is the accepted practice. But I notice he refers to others as “former” president so and so, “ex” this or that , but never in reference to himself or his status. A question of clinging to past glory, I wonder?
Hahahahahahahahaha you are sick…former so and so, ex so and so…lol
Ubulumi bwa kale!
Miyanda you are a retired politician and no one will let you to come back to active politics as a VIP.
RB has storen money, give us more news about how RB aiba more money in his pocket
You dont charge people who have STOREN.
What is it about “l’s” and “r’s”? Seems very hard for some to distinguish. Uluse…
“Storen”. Typical of PF kaponyas. Even our famous political commentator on Radio, “PROUD” can do better than this
Lifting of RBs immunity was the right thing to do. Infact former Presidents should have their immunity removed at time of leaving office so we do not go through this husle all the time.
One would have thought Zambians learnt a lesson from the dangers of the secrecy that sorrounded the sickness and subsequent passing of Levy Mwanawasa to not make the same mistake again. Just a mere look at Sata’s face & his increasingly erratic conduct in public shows the man is marked for death. Yea, as he walk through the valley of the shadow of death, he’s trembling with fear of pay back timeand evil: for thou art aren’t with CNP; thy rod and thy staff they torment Zondwe.
Iwe Uluchinagwa! Next please!
Gen. Miyanda appears authentic and fit for presidential office and could easily have won the hearts of Zambians had he been a little aggressive in his approach and interested in the welfare of the people. But his lukewarm style and incomprehensible village concepts does not appeal to people who want it now. So the people went for Sata who knew what they wanted to hear. I think Gen Miyanda is one of the few honest politicians in Zambia, but lack of charisma and aggression, a viable and simple message will ensure he doesn’t get the presidency.
My dear, it’s better to be specific that in Zambian voters prefer liers to honest politicians, period!
If he was a fool from a certain tribe he would be president. Tribalism in Africa, the biggest problem!
it is clear that RB stole our money. let the law take its due process. it can either take a short or a long time to find facts about thefts. so what is the General talking about. ufisanji mambala!
Personally I do not see anything wrong with lifting Mr. RB’s immunity. He now has a chance to prove his innocence on all allegations that have been raised and will be raised against him. Even before the current President Sata came into office, there were insinuations from various quarters that illicit transactions were being perpetuated by his sons using his name and position as President. Please Mr. Banda will be heard in court. Punkt!
It is the Accuser rather the Prosecution that has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that RB is guilty as charged. He has not been found guilty for him to prove his innocence. People like you are grossly misdirected if you think that it is all upto RB to prove his innocence. Your understanding of the court process is upside down.
Ba Miyanda which law did you study, was it the Arm law or what? Am not a lawyer but one thing I can tell you is there was nothing wrong in the way procedings went in Parliament.
The Honorable learned Minister put up a very profound case before Parliament. There was no short cut employed, every thing were done as per book. Bwana Miyanda I had so much respect for you but bwana you have lost it. You are so jearous for Michael, as for you any thing done by his EXCELLENCE is wrong why Miyanda? even when you where in Government under Chiluba you exibited jearous to Michael and Levy? no wonder there was speculation that you may had a hand in Levy’s accident, stop being childish glow up man? we are tired of you discrediting what ever our Government do. I say stop it and move on.
You don’t make sense bwana Levies. Check you grammar before posting your arguments for a start. Army not Arm; jealousy not jearous, grow not glow, excellency not excellence. Which school and how far did you go with your education? Pretty nauseating! Any wonder you are failing to comprehend the General’s argument?
You Zedians are very funny!!!!! When RB was in power, all the the opposition members were saying RB is corrupt and the law will follow him….. Cobra institutes legal actions…. You say RB has immunity and can only be prosucuted when immunity is removed by paliament… Immunity removed…. now you turn around and say you are persecuting RB…. What is it that is wrong with us Zedians? God deliver us….
Tell them because the corruption and abuse was there for all to see under RB. I was in the country in March of 2011 and within 2 days decided ZNBC was not worthy to watch. If it was not RB, then it was one of his henchmen Shikapwasha or Dora Siliya and black mamba chanda chimba. Ne ule balibepeshafye by the sudden U-turn of some Zambians. HH and others siding with RB now were screaming on top of the voice against RB in 2011. So what has changed now when the law has been followed and applied as per our constitution?
it is sad that fingers always point to Executive whenever matters of resolution go through parliament and the outcome is in favour of executive. The matter I believe was tabled before parliamentary members, who had the responsibility of discussing, objecting or suspend the motion in totality. The continue pointing of finger on the executive and culprit of what maybe deemed unconstitutional of removal of immunity on RB, is ignoring the main causal, and play politics at expense of issues so important to zambias democracy. Parliamentarians are the ones who should hold the blame if at all there is any. they are the ones that voted and removed the immunity, they need to be responsible and if in error be petitioned. ignoring that fact entail lack of confidence in the MP and law making process
WE ALL KNOW THAT RB AND HIS FAMILY GOT EXCESSIVELY RICH AFTER RB BECAME PRESIDENT.IT IS NOT A SECRET THAT RB’S FAMILY AMASSED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITHIN THREE YEARS OF HIS PRESIDENCY.WE ALSO KNOW THAT AMSTERDAM IS AN EXPENSIVE INTERNATIONAL CROOK WHO IS PAID IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND RB CANNOT AFFORD TO HIRE AMSTERDAM IF HE DOES NOT HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.THE QUESTION IS HOW MUSH IS THE PRESIDENT SALARY THAT CAN MAKE ONE BECOME A MULTI MILLIONAIR IN DOLLARS IN THREE YEARS?GENERAL ZAMBIANS DONT CARE ABOUT THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES WHAT WE WANT IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH ON HOW RB AND FAMILY GOT THAT RICH.AND WHY DID HE REMOVE THE ABUSE OF OFFICE FROM CORRUPTION CASES IF HE WAS NOT STEALING,WHY?
Big man Gen Miranda, you are a total failure and a lone in life. To me u are not even academic but a day dreamer whose village concept has proved u a failure.
The people who held u in high esteem have also discovered that they would of go any where with u hence have deserted u.
Are u trying to graft yourself to a corrupt MMD party? Definately Rupiah and his children was involved in corrupt activities.
I think The General has caught parliament sleeping.
If Sata had just half of one of Gen Miyanda’s brains, this country would be Zambia for all not only for these long tailed monkeys from the Northern forest!
And that’s why he’s only a one star general because he’s not as intelligent as three star general late Chrsiton Tembo or four star generals Malimba Masheke and Kingsley Chinkuli. The man is still day dreaming and is not in sync with changing times. Zambians want justice and return of the stolen man by RB, his family and his cohorts period.
Oh ba Coachez – he sounds more intelligent than all the three Generals put together.
The legal and procedural issues raised by the General are indeed valid. If we are going to set a precedent let us do it right and not through shortcuts. The very procedures are put in place to protect the rights of all people. Let us not encourage incompetence and mediocrity by just supporting from a partisan point of view. When the govt makes a move, it must be seen as well thought out, clear and in the best interest of the nation.It is important to deter thieves from stealing but we do that within the confines of the set law not just from the drive of emotions and hate. Let us build a rational society that does things correctly. It would not cost the govt much to do their home work and then move on RB. The problem is that wynter thinks he is cleverer than he actually is.#betterstandardsp
Should read, would “not” go…….and also should read Rupiah and his children “were” and not “was”.
Miranda is just trying to say something but deep down aziba ati alabi azamangiwa. One reason Zambians voted alabi out of state house is rampant stealing. So, nothing is speedy here. The GJIT called Alabi for questioning but he refused because he had immunity. So parliament removed it so that he can ans to his theft charges. Nothing personal with MCS. He is just implementing the campaign promises. Sata is on record that once voted into state house, he wil prosecute all thieves including alabi and sons.
Bashibuka batata aba from hibernation. This is the laziest General ever.
I wish Mr Miyanda had taken the same time he put in to come with the above statement when the MMD party deceided to remove the ” abuse of office” any sane person will agree that this was done to protect themselves knowing that they would find themselves in the same shoes. Why didn’t people like you condemn that action? You may condemn the swiftness it’s taking! Humility is also a virtue, RB should have humbled himself but look at the way he has been behaving lately? Whether the process was done up hazardly the bottom line is that he has be responsible for time that he was in charge of our country. It is a shame to have leaders in a country that is presumed poor bent on just amassing wealth for themselves alone. Look at our streets, our roads, our hospitals?
IT AMAZING, I CAN’T BELIEVE, PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROCEDURE OF LIFTING THE IMMUNITY THAN THE BILLIONS OF MONEY THAT HAVE BEEN STOLEN. PEOPLE FIRST REMOVED THE ABUSE OF OFFICE CLAUSE, THEN THEY WENT AHEAD AND STOLE. AND SOMEONE HAS THE AUDACITY OF WANTING TO PROTECT SUCH PEOPLE.
It is important to do things correctly so that 50 years from now or more the act can still be justified. The rushing shows prejudice which it should not. Let us be governed in a serious, clear and fair manner. Govt is for all Zambians, let it be seen to be for all Zambians in all it does!
IT’S NOT ABOUT PROTECTING THIEVES,IT’S ABOUT RESPECTING THE CONSTITUTION WHICH THE SUPREME LAVS OF ZAMBIA.WE MUST NOT SET A PRECEDENT WHERE FUTURE PRESIDENTS WILL BE EASILY PROSECUTED FOR MINOR OFFENSES.HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THE FORMATION OF QUORUM BY LESS THAN 90 MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEN VOTE ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT NATIONAL ISSUE DISREGARDING THE COURT INJUNCTION WHILE CLAIMING TIED HANDS ON OTHER ISSUES?WE ARE NOT IGNORANT ZAMBIANS ANYMORE.
Whose billions were stolen? Who reported money stolem from our coffers?
I have a lotm of respect for the General, because he only speaks on critical issues and usually it is when he has a contribution to make. In particular, he has vested interest in matters with a legal perspective. Therefore, his comments and opinion here should not be discounted out of hand. He has a point, it does not even necessarily mean that he is protecting RB but he is assessing the process used.
Is the General OK? Of all the people, why him speaking like this. Something is wrong in Zambia. God help us.
Teny, the General is OK! If you don’t see sense in what he is saying just know that there is something wrong with you and rush quickly to Chainama or take your medication!
If Rupiya has no case to answer he should not even get worried about the out come
but if he was eating with both hands then he is in trouble.
EXCUSE ME WHO IS GENERAL MIYANDA
Some one star admin general who could not even merit being appointed into foreign service by any president after he was fired by Chiluba.
The General is right only a PF carder would argue with such
Wisdom, because they are still in honeymoon mode, we need
To listen because 10 years down the line it will be Sata who we
Will be victimized by the same . He has promised more than he can
Fulfil just to get a vote.
Bushe ninshi ikosele kanshi ba RB? Please just prove yourself in the courts and let your son return to help you!!
he should just answer to all allegations and set himself free otherwise tatwasekelamo ubuchushi bwapa grass root, they come and dup us to vote for them they go in offices to steal while we remain languishing with hunger kumakomboni they come back only near elections when many people are living in hunger what can stop us from drinking thier shake shake and get 50pins from them? inshi njala yakunyokola children have even stopped going to school hun….. those who are feeling for him are his fellow politicians or people who hold higher offices they know how nice it is to dictate and steal. PF govt should also watch out coz thier time is coming soon.
Collin Powell is referred to as such or as Mr Collin Powell. Now Powell is a man of international repute, compared to our Mr Miyanda,who is immersed, in his own self-impotance, referring to himself as brigadier general, without stating that he is in fact retired. What gives mr Miyanda with your street legalistic language?
RUBBISH FROM A FINISHED GENERAL.DEMAGOGUE! IN DE POST 2DE 1 PRIEST CHILINDA SAYS WHOSE HANDS ARE CLEAN SHOULD HAVE DONE DE REMOVAL. ROTTEN HEAD. WILL IT B WRONG THEN 2 SET FREE ALL DOSE IN PRISONS IN DIS COUNTRY GOING BY FR CHILINDA’ REASONING?SAD!
I can see on this site that Chanda Chimba III and RB managed to convince these dull chaps on this site about Sata being demonised day in day out. Your friend busy working in the rural areas, come 2016 rurals will vote massively for him, from Mwandi to Shibuyunji. And you will cry foul. Start campaigning now, not insulting all bembas, mind you there are more bembas that whatever u call urselves!!!! Watchout. First it was sata appointing relatives, now that Sata is appointing Tongas, ati Sata is appointing opposition. What do you people want? The tribe thing is now gone? Next on the list is Mweetwa and Syakalima, that dull psychologist!!!
RB is guilty and has to prove his innocence. When he did away with abuse of office clause it was like hanging a huge neon sign on his thick neck for all Zambians to see he was going to assist himself to our money with impunity. It came as a shock that a snake slithered its way into state house. Hypnotised with shock, he confessed that he plundered but he didn’t know it was wrong to do that. Check his farewell speech.
welcome back miyanda stop childish politics of appearing only for elections do you have advisors join other progressive opposition parties . come back we are missing empty stubbornness does not pay
MALIONGO GENERAL, YOU BETTER KEEP QUIET, PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST CORRUPTION. RB NI POMPWE!
Now you see him then you don’t. Miyanda has criticized every president and party that has ruled Zambia and yet he himself has failed to organise his heritage party and his village concept so, what moral justification does he have to write such articles? Has he forgotten that its R.B who let Chiluba off the hook in his corruption cases? Has he also forgotten that RB removed the abuse of office clause from our statutes? Corruption has killed our people in hospitals, denied our children better education etc. while R.B’s children are living in luxury. Please stop playing cheap politics with people’s lives. Its high time he realised that at times silence is golden.
General, you’re too slow despite having been in the army. When you send your men into battle you prepare for the worst. What is suspicious about the immunity being lifted at 19:00hrs and the GJIT inviting RB to appear the following day if anything? They had prepared for this well before hand and all they waited for was confirmation. Even RB himself will tell you that he watched events unfold live on TV and was well aware of his new status and anticipated to be picked right in the middle of the night.
This General is generally suspect!
with all respect,i would have more respect if you as a leader (general) would ask why 1million kids don’t go to school? just a throught
General spot on in Law and constitutional integrity…Kabimba lots it!!
Kabimba lost it ….Dancing to Bwinjifumu tunes …The General is wise and spot on!!
Coward General! As usual slow to think and practically unclear.
GRZ planned and was aware that Sakwiba planned with some Judge to derail the lifting immunity. Timing was very important. Thats why The Opposition was not on firm ground with their attempted parliament coup.
At your speed General, this immunity could have taken 2 years to conclude!
Smart people don’t just talk anyhow, For General to talk, means something is wrong. ZAMBIANS WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES THIS IS WHY WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR LEADERS THAT WILL BRING CHANGE TO OUR COUNTRY. YOU CAN’T SEE SENSE IN WHAT EVER THE GENERAL WROTE, BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS NARROW MINDED AND WANT TO FIND FAULTS THAN GOOD. JUST WATCH HOW PF WILL BACK TRACK ON THIS CASE. AS THEY HAVE DONE ON ALL OTHER MATTERS LIKE STREET VENDORS, PROJECTS WITH NO BUDGETS JUST TO GET VOTES. SHAMEFUL INDEED. TIME WILL COME WHEN YOU WILL ALL BE ON SATA’s THROAT THAT HE HAS STOLEN.
I remember one time used to enjoy reading the Zambian news papers when PF was in opposition that was real opposition bane.I will suggest to PF if they can go back to opposition once more,there is no opposition in Zambia only tuntemba party.This time around we only have people who like ukubosa cabe,,,bwe bwe bwe,,,,,
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