FIRST Republican President Kenneth Kaunda has advised politicians in Zambia against campaigning on tribal lines saying Zambia has come a long way to build a one-nation.
He urged leaders to unite and come together to maintain peace and avoid engaging in wrangles.
He said Zambia had people of different colours, tribes and faiths and could not develop when people were not in harmony with one another especially leaders who were the drivers of the nation.
He said this in Lusaka at his Kabulonga office when Zimbabwean ZANUF-PF members paid a courtesy call on him.
Acting President Alexander Chikwanda last week Alexander Chikwanda called for an immediate end of careless talk bordering on tribalism involving senior Government officials as that had the potential of causing disunity in Zambia.
Mr Chikwanda made the remarks in the wake of recent media reports attributed to embattled Patriotic Front (PF) secretary general Wynter Kabimba who was quoted as having said that there was a tribal clique in the ruling party behind the cadres pushing for his resignation as chief executive officer of the party.
Wise words and advice.
You have said it so well, Observer. In fact it would be good to legislate some of this careless talk as some form of crime. Khama has already done so in Botswana to curb careless incendiary talk.
This tribalism noise was started by Wynter Kabimba as a smoke screen to his troubles and looming political demise. The PF youth are not after any one particular tribe, but after Wynter’s blood.
So this advise is not applicable under the circumstances. Just concentrate on your next move BaWynter. Now you can feel what Given Lubinda felt when you sent the hired mob after him just because he recommended the recall of your medically / mentally unfit son from diplomatic service in Tokyo.
There cannot come any wise advice from Kaunda insofaras it relates to tribalism. In the first place Kaunda does not belong to any tribe in Zambia. He is Zambian by birth, only. So, he does not experience being attached to a tribe and the responsibilities that go with it. So, it is naivity to ignore tribal sentinents in any form of governance issues involving 73 ethnic grouping widely geographically spread – with different traditions and cultures.
Kaunda made a terrible mistake by glossing over some of the issues of regionalism and tribalism, though he did well on tribal balancing. Kaunda should have gone further to allow native and regional authorities, through devolution of power to local authorities at regional and district levels.
The Barotseland Agreement was one such vehicle!
@ Maano.. ******we!! you mutwe less Nkoko!!
go and sort out barotse issues mudala naiwe. GBM and Kambwili will deal with Kabimba.
Yes. Why should Kaunda comment on tribalism only and buries his head in sand when it comes to the Barotse issue? Does he want to go with the truth in his grave so that more confusion is created when he is no more? Say something Kaunda. Your signature is on that document (Barotse Agreement 1964). What happened? We want to know.
Ba Kaunda talk about the barotse agreement why have you been so quiet abt that we want your voice baba.the first person you shud preach that to is Sata.if his leadership was stern and just they wud have been peace in pf but KK you were right you warned us that SATA was not presidential material.counsel your boy more BABA.
Nothing about Barotse to discuss. Borotse is Zambia, Period! One Zambia, One Nation!
@what
to you it is and to many of us is but what abt those people who ar arrested there in prison ar you js goin to turn a blind eye and say one Zambia one nation when wat is preached and wat is going on isn’t anything close to that motto anymore.He started that fire and i think it would be wise for him to say something about the BRE.To much tribalism and all u can say is one nation.we don’t need such words wat we want is action.
The barotse issue is a BIG issue just as America and Isreal shall never wish to see a free Gaza given until Kingdom come.Given out Zambia shall become geographically small,sharing of resources with litunga,some tribes renouncing there nationality,withdrawing of political will and may more until Zambia will be nomore.a last resort may be WAR breaking out.those who know shall never let it go the barotse way.
@radio kudirat
you are right and i bet to to agree with you but is ignoring the matter the best solution at the moment o we should find means of resolving that issue.personally i blv every problem has a solution and to the same barotse i still think the solution and cure can be found to that problem ratha than ignoring it exists.
One Zambia, One Country (Nation), Yes. But, certainly it was not meant to be ‘One Zambia, One STATE – notice the Difference!
Dont mention the ‘t’ word but ignore a small but yet another blatant example that it is alive and kicking in Zambia – the mayor and deputy mayor of Lusaka are both from the same anointed ethnic group.
Chisenga is not Bemba if that is what you are insinuating.
@ Mutale Chikwanda, do not confuse people. When it suits you, you say Chisenga is Bemba and when you are placed into a tight corner, you deny such people as Chisenga. Okay, what tribe is Chisenga and what language does he speak?
iwe SIKUFELE, speaking bemba is nothing close to being one, chikamba you are posting in english that means you speak english but that will never make you english. ila and tonga are not the same tribe neither is bemba and bisa, lala blabla. get some facts about languages in Zambia man. there are 73 tribes in zambia if you dont saperate bemba from bisa and ila from tonge or lenje you remain with 70.
What tribe is Chisenga then? I doubt he will be Toka-Leya, Subiya or Ndembu.
Its sad the tribal talk is used to cover the actuall needs of the poeple to me its a sign that either plans are not working of there were no plan at all.
KK is tellin us to bury our heads in the sand on the issue of tribalism even as Sata is working overtime to screw every other tribe from shring the national cake.Lets say NO.
KK has lost his head. It’s the practice of tribalism that must be condemned not the talk against it. When people talk and complain against tribalism, they are addressing an existing issue. Why can’t KK condemn the practice of tribalism by the PF? When tribalism ceases to exist the talk against it will also disappear.
What is the problem with this nation.Even aged people like Kaunda still can not tell the real problem.For Mr.Chikwanda to him it is okay for people to carry a coffin for Winter Kabimba and take it to the grave yard yet Kabimba is alive.To Mr.Chikwanda it is okay for people to demonstrate in public disturbing peoples business without discussing it behind closed door as Chikwanda was mute when these thugs went round and speaks only when Kabimba said its tribalism.
By the way what tribe is Chikwanda,Kambwili,Willie Nsanda,GBM,Chikwelete.I rest my case.
. . . . . . and the old man from Chinsali (Super Ken as well as ZCTU’s Roy Mwaba? I rest your case too.
But why was our founder President quiet all along when UPND was labelled tribal by every Jim and Jack?? Why should everyone suddenly wake up from slumber when this evil has clearly shown its ugly face in the PF, albeit from its inception, save for the few exhibits such as Inonge, Simusa, Kapata, Shamenda, Lubinda and Guy Scott? Why should the tribal talk be divisive only now when the culprit is PF and not when UPND was the victim of this political smear? PF is tribal and no matter how Super Ken or ZCTU’s Roy Mwaba (fellow Kolwestans) will try to sugar-coat their comments. We (including you and all bloggers) know this and the sooner they addressed this evil, the better for our country or else NAM!!!
true my freind
He has to talk now business this talk is threatening his bread and butter. PF gives this man (KK) a lot hence he is only concerned about his pocket and not the rest of the Zambians. If he was, he should have warmed our beloved president the danger of appointing only his tribesmen into key government positions. KK please address the real issue with ba kateka.
Well said NAM. This ***** been quiet and now he wants sound wise. Just keep quiet iwe chimudaala. You are one and the same thing in praising Sata simply because he took your stupid boys out of poverty. Account for your wrongs. Ask that fog you stood against if it needs your advise. We do not need your impit in the future of Zambia any note.
Well spoken KK. You know you are in reverse gear as a Nation when old past and retired leaders sound more futuristic than present and aspiring ones. Predominantly, Great minds talk about ideas, average minds talk about events and small minds talk about people and tribes. So if you mostly blog about tribe this one and tribe that one, now you know the size of your mind, do something to improve.
Well said K.K. I HATE TRIBALISM!!!
but why was he putting a flog? He probably needs to explain. was referring for fathers as flogs?
But, do you hate tribes, too?
I know how to solve the problem of tribalist, remove Sata, Period! No more recycled politicians. RB brought the idea of consulting chiefs from the east hence abit of a tribalist, while Mwanawasa believed in the family tree. FTJ was one of the best at tribal balancing. He actually did not see tribe. But was a thief and serial killer! I wonder what legacy Sata will leave?
you dont know what you are talking about. Chiluba was the arch architect of tribalism in Zambia after 1990. Read
This issue of tribalism must now be addressed through a TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION to ascertain the damage that this has Coursed .Am told even churches are aligned alone this nonsense
KK IS A SHINNING EXAMPLE FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE LEADERS ON MATTERS OF UNITING A NATION. HE MAY HAVE HIS OWN INEQUITIES BUT LET US FORGIVE HIM, HE IS ONLY A HUMAN BEING.
THE TRIBALISM TALK IS CARELESS AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED. I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE THAT IT BENEFITS THOSE WHO WANT PF TO LOSE THE NEXT ELECTION. BUT I WAS TAKEN BACK TO 1793 TO HEAR THE WHOLE PF SG TALK TRIBALISM. THIS IS THE SADDEST MOMENT FOR ME AND KK.
THE PF SG NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE TO THE NATION AND RETRACT SUCH CARELESS STATEMENTS. THAT SAID, IT APPEARS TO ME NOW THAT TRIBALISM TALK IS PERCEPTION.
BUT BLOGGERS H.E. SATA’S HANDS WERE TIED AND HENCE THE APPARENT APPOINTMENT OF PEOPLE PERCEIVED FROM ONE SO CALLED TRIBE. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE SAME COMPLAINTS TODAY WILL ALSO COME ON UPND SHOULD PEOPLE DECIDE THAT THEY…
Suoer Ken please just take a look at the current Cabinet , PSs, Heads of Parastatals , Ambassadors etc and tell us if you would have made the same appointments. When Sata stuffed the Cabinet and all other positions with his tribesmate , you Super Ken thought it was ok. When people labelled UPND tribal, you thought it was ok. Suddenly when Wynter states what has always been before our own eyes, it becomes dangerous. What hypocrisy!
rotten teeth you are really rotten, mind you some of the PF cabinet ministers and deputies as listed; guy scot, wynter kabimba, edgar lungu, R sichinga, E Chenda, E Kabanshi, masebo, john phiri, simusa, wina, simbyakula, joseph lunga, namulambe, kazabu, peniso njeula, R. Siamunene, forrie tembo,n. banda C.s Zulu, D. phiri p ngona wilomba, chingimbuB, Esther banda, belindakawandami, chinga miyuti………. the list goes on. are they all bemba as you insinuate?
reading some comments one is left to wonder why grz banned ZWD coz petty minded tribalist puppy immigrants from zdw are giving us hollow thinking just as they used to do on their tribal zwd.
When kabimba hounded edward mumbi, given lubinda from their positions no tribal talk was pronounced now that a tonga midget is been asked to stop presidential ambitions, its tribal. By the way i thought tongas claimed to be bulls didnt know they were midgets also.
Mr George Bush, there was nothing tribal about the disciplinary action against Lubinda. PF party disciplinary procedures were followed. The fact that Wynter was performing his job as Party Chief does not make him guity of hounding out Lubinda no more than it would make a Human Resourse Manager who writes a dismissal letter to an employee. DALO…..
It is a bit rich for KK to lecture us on tribalism today. Why is he not commenting on the Barotse issue which he caused on tribal grounds. He killed a lot of people when he was in office as president. Where is Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe? Mr Kapwepwe was probably Kaunda’s first prominent victim, killed on the basis of trying to suppress a political group on account of tribe. Can he explain to us what happened to him? We still remember his tricks and the best he can do now is just shut up.
But who is this Kapwepwe guy?
@NAM – Kapwepwe was former Vice-President of UNIP in the years soon after independence, who became so frustrated with Kaunda that he formed his party UPP. Kaunda at the time accused anybody who formed a party of being a tribalist, but forgot about what to call HIS position as president of UNIP. In actual fact, Kaunda is the worst tribalist that Zambia has ever known and because he is Malawian by origin he had no sympathy for anybody – he cleared them out like flies: Kapwepwe, Nalumino Mundia, etc. Kaunda is credited with so many achievements. Okay, yes, he did some things correct; but bringing Zambian tribes together I disagree, infact history knows that he used tribalism to separate our tribes and created an artificial crisis so that he could set up the one party state.
Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe was the second Vice President (around 1967), after Reuben Kamanga.
Tribalism is a very big cancer in Zambia under the PF regime. It is like Sata came with an evil plan to please only people from one ethnic group and its associated small groups. Everyone can see through these shameless tribalists.
no body need remind me of mutinta mazoka’s and mwanajiti’s words after the death of anderson mazoka ” only a tonga can succed mazoka” mwananjiti promised to do everything to ensure that the likes of sichinga and chisenga, who are not even bemba were hounded out of UPND. personally, not bemba either found that very tribal and from that time hence forth i will choose a bemba, lozi, ngoni or any other tribe over a tonga, whether sick, lunatic, thief, name it. this tribal thing had gone quite until these learned friends from tonga land reignited the talks and when they are called by their mention the cry the loudest.
@geff,
Tribalism is tribalism and it stinks irrespective of which ethnic group practices it. The statement that you quote is very unfortunate and it has, clearly, cost UPND dearly. It is therefore important that political parties desist from practicing tribalism.
kaunda, kaunda, kaunda, you only comment when it is too late! you should have counseled your sata just before he constituted his cabinet. besides, do not play to the gallery, go to statehouse and explain yourself on tribalism not to forget the Barotse Agreement issue. tell sata what should be done. maybe you are birds of the same feathers. just thinking
Iam very disappointed with ‘Batata’ KK. The fact of the matter is that there is Bemba tribalism in PF,plain and simple! And pointing that out isn’t being tribal and isn’t divisive.
KK firmly, stubbornly and consistently pointed out that there was racism in Rhodesia, Mozambique,Angola and South Africa and his persistence bore some fruit for all to see today. The racists and their backers lived in self denial. To say “don’t talk about tribalism” like Chikwanda is saying is living in self denial. Yes, tribalism is well and alive in Zambia today more than any other period. The goodness is that it seems Zambians have corporately realized and rejected it. We await 2016
We are all the same period!
A TRIBALIST FROM A PSYCHOLOGIST’S VIEW.
I comment by nicknames, now I ve used my real name, coz its serious.
A tribalist is one who does’nt know his tribe and hence takes up another thinking that that is what they are; or he knows his tribe but probably due to inferiority complex hides in another which they eventually abuse and tarnish the name.
In Zambia Bemba commands influence hence people owez want to be associated with it. Actually IT IS NOT THE BEMBAS WITH A PROBLEM. The ones who give us hell are from LUAPULA PROVINCE, have you ever heard any of them say ” am Ushi, Lunda, Ng’umbo, Tabwa, Chishinga or Shila”? If a tribalist says his Bemba, ask wisely where they come from, u ll prove me right. Bembas are from Kasama, Mungwi & parts of Chinsali & Mpika.
LOZI LADY, BORN…
i dnt agree with you.they dont command influence say they think they command influence.
Namasiku u ur 100% correct! You Lozis speak Sikololo becoz of the conquest by the Makololo, yet you still say “am Lozi (Luyana/Luyi)”. The Ngonis in Zambia and Malawi speak Tumbuka, Nsenga & Tonga, yet they still say “am Ngoni”. What is wrong with these guys from LUAPULA even if they speak Bemba that they can not identify who they are? I once heard a statement “……………Mwata Kazembe Mwine Lubemba……….”. I got confused, after marking a Grade 9 History essay on the Lunda Kingdom of Mwata Kazembe.
Tongas tonga Tongas please you are not inferior in any way. You are just like bembas and all other tribes. What is the problem bafikala. Anything Bemba to you is tribalism. what kind of living is that. as if you are villagers. Please exhibit some civility
Many thanks goes to the courageous Wynter Kabimba for exposing tribalism elements in the PF. ‘ It is not wrong to talk about tribalism but practicing tribalism’. KK seem to be one sided. To KK, its ok to practice tribalism and bad for an individual to talk about the realities of tribalism. He should tell us if that is how he ruled Zambia for 27 years with a tribal cabinet and an empire of tribal ambassadors and high commissioners serving in foreign countries.
It has been a song by PF that UPND was a tribal party and KK has been quite. WHY?
If the leader of a political party is from southern or western province the song “tribal party” emerge and KK has never commented on such sentiments. Why today KK. because your agenda are being exposed and you are worried?
KK tell us the truth…
I agree with Namasiku. The Ministry I work for, is full of Bemba (as they claim) troublemakers. Their surnames are Chishala, Kalumba, Lukwesa, Chinyanta, Kanyembo, Chimpampwe, Mofya, Lumbwe, Sakeni, Mwansa, Mapoma, Lombe, Nsamba, Chileya, etc……..
Where was kk when pf was accusing UPND when it’s clear UPND is well represented across the country. Double standards. I lost respect for kk. Pf was trying to divert people s minds but here we are. It’s clear tribal manoeuvres affecting the party and the country. The general masses are innocent but gvt and pf are certainly not
Personally I do not trust this old man KK. He is also partly to blame for zambia’s problems. I think he is dull old man.
bwafya…
KK is not as innocent as he wants to sound. He is such a bad person that is why FTJ Chiluba almost killed him in 1991/1992, had it not been probably for advisors to intervene, although he ended up being imprisoned still.
We all know that KAUNDA is saying all these things because he still thinks Sata will hand-over the PF leadership to his son — that rumour was strong at the time when his son left UNIP to join Sata’s PF in 2011. If you look back, that is when Kaunda started strongly supporting Sata from that moment.
This is the same Kaunda who used to loudly and openly declare that SATA is NOT fit to be president! Now, the same KAUNDA today wants to lecture us. Does he think he has any credibility? Who is the s.t.u.p.i.d i.d.i.o.t now, between Zambians and KK? Atase!
There is never any sense in what KK says, just like Shamenda.
Kaunda is an Evil man. For those of you who were still young when he was rulling please be advised. This man murdered people (people would disappear) he was a Serious Dictator and he had a RUTHLESS Special Branch or SHUSHUs. That is why he was kicked out in 1991. Chiluba almost sent him back to Malawi were he hails from.
The last person to advise zambians on this issue is KK. He has no moral right to do so because he is rotten to the bone.
What has happened to the Endorsers and Petitioners, mwadi mwe ! The tribal issue raised by kabimba has paralyzed them or what .
Yes Kabimba is SHARP!! They are all paralyzed.They have achieved one thing though…they have gotten rid of Kabimba. But he has not gone alone, he has taken with him the PF. They will not win in 2016 because they now carry a TRIBAL TAG.
@ MIKE – So is Kabimba finally out of PF????? Or what are you saying?
What iam saying is that it is likely Kabimba will be OUT. These guys, the Central Committee, will sit and they will find him guilty of bringing the Party name into direpute. Its a foregone conclusion the guy is out. That is why GBM and the other tribal clique is quite. They know they pushed him to the limit and the guy blew his TOP. They know they have achieved what they wanted.
That is a sweeping statement. We are not the same. I hate Kaunda. He is a hypocrite. He should talk of barotse issue first. People are in stinking jails now because of what he did in the past.
Here is the full cabinet:
1. President – Michael Sata
2. Vice President – Guy Scott
3. Agriculture and Livestock – Mr. Robert Sichinga
4. Chiefs and Traditional Affairs- Professor Nkandu Luo
5. Commerce, Trade and Industry – Mr. Emmanuel Chenda
6. Community Development, Mother and Child Health – Dr. Katema
7. Defence – Mr. Geoffery Mwamba
8. Education, Science, Vocational and Early Education – Dr. John Phiri
9. Finance – Mr. Alexander Bwalya Chikwanda
10. Foreign Affairs – Dr. Lungu
11. Gender and Child Development – Mrs. Inonge Wina
12. Health – Dr. Kasonde
13. Home Affairs and Deputy Chief Whip Mr. E.C. Lungu
14. Information and Broadcasting – Mr.Mwansa Kapeya
15. Justice – Mr. Winter Kabimba
16. Labour and Social Security – Mr. Fackson Shamenda
Six Bemba z out of 16 isnt bad-by the way Iam counting Bisas as Bembas too
Fellow bloggers lets us all condemn tribalism. Tribalism retards development, brings confusion, quarrels and segregation in some quarters. Let us just heed the advice of KK regardless of the mistakes he might made. It is for the good of our nation. It would be folly to refuse to heed to advice just because the person giving it is perceived to have made mistakes. We should learn to forgive and forget and to draw lessons from our mistakes and those made by others.
Continued from # 34:
17. Lands, Natural Resources and Environment – Mr. Wilbur Simuusa
18. Local Government and Housing – Mrs Emmerine Kabanshi
19. Energy and Water and Chief Whip Mr. Yamfwa Mukanga
20. Tourism and Arts – Sylvia Masebo
21. Transport, Works, Supply and Communication – Mr. C. Yaluma
22. Youth and Sport – Mr. Chishimba Kambwili –
From this list I can only see 7 Bembas. Okay if you include other Bemba speaking people that is 10. That is not 80% Bemba as some people are alleging. I make it 30% Bemba or 45% Bemba speaking
How many are from North-Western Province? O%!
You must be ashamed of yourself for trying to defend this tribalistic and nepotistic regime. The PF is indefensible when it comes to tribalism. So to you its okay for one ethnic group to have 45% and the rest to share the 55%? You cannot blame the Lozis for wanting to exit from Zambia.
Well seven including kambwili, another bisa
So it is seven out of 22. Still ok.
Mike u ur right, KK’s rule was pathetic. Killing people, insults, food shortages. We only knew one item of a commodity e.g:
Bath Soap – Choice (the rich), Ebu & Lifebuoy (the poor)
Washing Powder – Surf
Washing Bar Soap – Dambo
Cooking Oil – Salad
Sanitary Pads – Modess
soft drink: fanta, coke, sprite
As a lot of you have said, this guy is evil (veiled in charisma). May all the souls he murdered rest in peace.
Icipuma ubukulu nge icifwani ca mbalala. Fsek!
for those of us who stayed in Luapula and northen provice it was Zuri which was smuggled from Zaire.
@Disguted. Isn’t funny how people want to ‘dress’ vices. In apartheid SA, racists refused to call it “racism”. They called ‘Bantustans’ ‘independent’ South African nations and told black South Africans that they were better off than “communist” ruled nations on their north. The hard name is that it was still apartheid, pure and simple.
@Disgusted, you can’t dress tribalism in all kind of colors and names. The 45% so called “Bemba speaking” were appointed as a result of tribalism! Period! Your calculation of 30% + 45% = 75%. Bemba is almost correct. “Chongedwe”
No need to behave like Ostriches-head in the sand thing. The issue in Pf is in tandem with the blocking of Hakainde from entering Kasama. It is a pure demonstration of growing tribal hate by a clique in Zambia- just a small group indeed. For political expediency Wynter contributed to the development of the tribal toxins that are now incinerating him within the PF. Let us sit on a round table as Zambians to discuss and kill tribalism in the bud. Telling people to stop discussing the issue is like Apartheid leaders telling aggrieved black people in the then pre-1994 South Africa to stop discussing discrimination against them because it did not exist.
By the way what tribe is Winter?
WELL SAID KK!! …..LONG LIVE KK!!..ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION!…..Nothing beats this!!
Look at the name…
Dictator to the bone and still not shutting up.
don’t listen to unproven folktale,tribalism is bad period ,any comment against it should be seen as a plus ,we are all here and safe today partly becoz of KK ,Yes like any human he had his flaws but on the issue of bringing to gether a nation ,read your history!!
Can someone educate me, what is Barotse and where is is that thing? Is it a person, animal, nonliving or living thing?
ask google
Dear Chota,
I would hav explained Barotse to you but I feel you may not understand. I gather you failed grade 7 SIX times?
Mike, you’re wrong I failed 17 times. The last time I goggled Barotse issue, I could only see DELETED. Next question?
# Mutale Chikwanda
Let us together with KK condem Bemba Tribalism where ever it surfaces. Using semantics will not help Zambia. KK wanted to behave like GOD; he thought HE could jump start and decree the UNIT of a Nation by stupid slogans .
We should condem all tribalism – not just Bemba tribalism. Unless you live on planet cuckoo land or you have a serious hate DNA for one tribe, you will agree that every tribe practices it.
Wait a minute. KK needs to be reminded that tribalism started rearing its ugly head when his President Sata hired Kabimba, Mmembe, Masebo, Mutembo Nchito, Mumba Malila, Musa Mwenye, Patrick Matibini etc to harass easterners, westerners and north-westerners through a string of strange cases of corruption. KK must prevail and counsel Sata to stop torturing our RB and Dora Siliya. KK’s worry is actually based on the current stand-off between Sata and the Bemba Chiefs.
The fool talks about tribal unit yet he is the number one enemy of the Royal Kingdom of Barotseland. I wish you another five years of life sir, so you can see Barotseland leave the union Sir, We are not leaving any part of our country to any country Barotseland will leave with Copperbelt, NorthWestern and some parts of Eastern Province.
Barotse will leave with copperbelt your ass. Find something better to do
Shut the faki apu KK, you of all the people should be ashamed to even comment on what is going on in the country right now, for so long you have buried your head in the sand when Tongaz, Lozis are talked about as tribalists, now when its on Bemba grounds you suddenly work up. ON BAROTSE issue for 27 yrs of your faken rule you chose to be silent, even during chulubaz and now SATAz, you are an embarrassing old fool, go rest leave others who are capable to handle this one
What did Mwanawasa and RB do about the Barotse issue? Under RB some Lozi protesters were even shot dead! Why mention only KK, Chiluba and Sata?
I have fought against Tonga tribalists, Ngoni TRibalist , Lozi tribalist, and now BEMBA tribalistics – they even sat in cabinet and approved to give themselves cows and forget about all other provinces –and after that they go to the roof tops and say they is no TRIBALISM(shame……shamuna).
The old bedbug should just shut up. He lost the moral right to speak abt these issues when he kept mute over Barotseland issues coupled to 20+ years of misrule, torture, killings and other terrible things. The thing was busy digging tunnels when the nation was practically starving. I’m even surprised the old thing foolish people want to eulogise is still alive; his peers have all gone under.
Y’all keep arguing,ine focus ili pali ka managing director,any idea how i can get the phone number to this company?
Just “f**k off” namalyanga wa namunungu tuwe!
nishani aka lijo so?