GOVERNMENT has released a proposed road map for the final phase of the constitution review process and guidelines for public validation of the contents of the final draft Zambian constitution.
The road map, which was released by Ministry of Justice permanent secretary Patricia Jere yesterday, will facilitate the preparation of terms of reference for the constitution implementation team as well as to draft a bill that will protect and guide the remaining phases of the constitution review process.
The roadmap will facilitate for the finalisation of the printing of copies of the interim final draft constitution and interim final report for wide distribution to the public as well as continue with the distribution of the interim final draft constitution and interim final report to all parts of the country while working with stakeholders such as the church, non-governmental organisation and members of Parliament (MPs).
It will also facilitate for the consideration of the draft bill to protect and guide the remaining process by cabinet as well as table the draft bill for consideration and debate by the National Assembly.
The roadmap will further provide for the appointment of a small but representative constitution implementation team to oversee the final phase following the enactment of the bill by parliament.
It will also provide for the preparation of the work plan and budget for the remaining phase of the constitution making process as well as publish guidelines for the public validation process on the final draft constitution.
The representative constitution implementation team will also review and analyse the comments received from members of the public and experts as well as prepare the final draft constitution and final report to accompany the constitution.
The roadmap will provide an opportunity for the representative constitution implementation team to sensitise the public on the interim final draft constitution and the report.
The representative constitution implementation team will hold an orientation workshop for the independent group of eminent persons who will be appointed to spearhead the consensus building process.
The roadmap will further facilitate the presidential appointment of a referendum commission as well as facilitate for the drafting of the Constitution of Zambia bill.
And Chief Government spokesperson Joseph Katema said Government remains fully committed to a people-driven constitution-making process.
He said in statement yesterday that the proposed roadmap is labeled “draft” as it will only be adopted after input from members of the public.
Dr Katema encouraged members of the public to take keen interest in the roadmap by reviewing it and giving feedback to the Ministry of Justice by January 31, this year.
The Constitution Roadmap and Guidelines can be downloaded from the links below
Just because HH released one they say , Me Too!
Shame upon this desparate PF government, I can’t even find words to describe them. Copy cats all the way. It seems HH is already the Republican president. Zambians are too smart to be cheated by this stupid party led by Vodka Lungu. Surely is that the face of a president? No style, no confidence, no brains…Ati Lungu is humble…that’s not humbleness bu tutu bulya. Can he share a podium with Cameron, Obama or Merkels?
Viva HH and UPND
Have you read document or you just think this is primary school play ground. Clearly this document is detailed and shows that detailed work has been on going for somethime. HH’s roadmap was empty and lacked detailed. Sorry I have to say that HH pliagiarised his document from Lungu’s.
I would love to hear what the Grand coalition have to say on this one. It is interesting. They have all they want now, detailed road map and activitives.
Intersting times indeed
This is by far a much better version than what was released by UPND. It also includes guidelines for validation that were not even mentioned by UPND. Let’s review and give comments as requested and stop these side shows like the social contracts. We now have a clear and objective draft to review, respond to and follow.
HH paid some to stool the road map,by the way the person is a dreamer . He has never been in government before how can he give us the constitution.
HH will never rule this nation.
Edgar is coming.
These ldiots are completely clueless. Everything HH says they say. HH does this they copy. They have no brains of their own!
@Linkman and @ Bootlicker, if the PF one is far better than the UPND one road map, why did the PF accuse HH of having stolen from them? That is if they are different? The truth of the matter is that the PF govt is use.less and full of m0rons and im.beciles. The CNP’s and everything is Copy N paste from HH.
I can not imagine that any normal thinking Zambian will support Vodgar Lungu and Panga Family after all the mess they have caused for the past three years in power. It’s either they have a low IQ, or it’s a matter of wako ni wako, or simply they harbour an evil and diabolical love for mediocrity and bad governance.
It is too late too soon.
Tuesday next week, PF closed, deal done.
Shame on UPND for using copied material from Government and releasing a Gonga version. Is that the model of free education UPND want to promote – leakages and copying? What sort of leadership fails to develop their own roapmap and tries to cheat people. LT should show both versions side by side and let people judge who is the copycat between PF and UPND. I was undecided until today, but I am now sure that PF under Lungu is the right party to vote for.
pf has been caught pants down.EVL has refused to sign the social contract on the constitution,so who is going to believe you.
You worked the whole night to expand on what HH had already done and pose like it is yours.UBUFI BULABWELELA!
Ba bootliker, it takes few hours to come up with a document like the one released by PF when one is given technical guidelines as HH did in his road-map. The visionless Lungu got the guidelines from HH and sat for days to come up with this one, trying to downplay HH’s vision.
Congratulations HH. You are really setting the pace for the inept PF. This draft has been amended to include the referendum process which was not there initially.
If it was there initially, why did PF violently oppose Gary Nkombo ‘s bill to publish the Constitution road map guaranteeing the referendum as the only means by which the constitution can be adopted.
This a me too in action.
HH leads the PF follows.
NO HH MADE NO CONSTITUTION, NEITHER DID HE PARTICIPATE IN THIS ONE. HOW DO YOU RELEASE WHAT YOU DID NOT MAKE? HE WANTED CREDIT FOR SOMETHING HE DID NOT WORK FOR. THAT’S NOT HOW WE DO THINGS GENTS. BE REAL.
GOOD DOCUMENT. THANK YOU REGARDLESS OF WHAT HATERS SAY. THEY WANTED IT AND OTHERS ARE DEMONSTRATING ABOUT IT U LISTEN AND ACT ATI “NO”. THERE’S NOTHING GOOD TO PEOPLE SOMETIMES.
OK SUPPOSE WE AGREE THAT HH RELEASED HIS OWN, AND NOW PF HAS RELEASED THEIR OWN. WHICH OF THE TWO REALLY APPEARS AS A REAL ROAD MAP? A SENSIBLE ONE? BE HONEST
@MMD Bootlicker
When did PF start working on this road map,when it is on record having opposed Gary Nkombo ‘s bill to guarantee a referendum process for enacting the constitution and publishing it so that the nation?
Why has it taken PF 3 years to even come up with this silly road map? The road map should have been the first document to be published to give guidance to the whole constitution making making process.
PF is on record saying the there was no need for a new constitution unless some one shows Sata the animal constitution.
PF ‘s process is un necessarily long to delay the process and even vote against the referendum process.
HH ‘s is short and concise it guarantees the constitution to be delivered within 6 to 7 months of him taking office.
HH, leads and…
I love the way the constitution issue has come to haunt the PF. The chicken have really come back home to roost. If they had passed a people driven constitution, today there would not have been need for a by-election as the republican vice president would have taken over as president to finish the term of the late president and then be re-elected for another 10 years in 2016. Easy power! Today they are so confused because of their lack of planning when they knew very well that Sata had a terminal illness and a people driven constitution would have worked in their favour. The new constitution would have prevented them from committing corruption and poor governance would have been enabled, thereby giving them a good public image.
Zambians I think now you are able to see for your self that PF is a finished party.Compare there draft to what HH presented you will see the following.
1.The PF draft does not have a time frame when the referendum and the final copies of the constitution will availed to Zambians.while HH pointed out that within 7 days of his being in office he will kick start the process.so you can see who is serious.
2.The PF draft is not well summerised to be understood by common Zambians while HH’s is well summarised and straight to the point.
though similar but it is not the PF draft.So the issue of leaking is not there.
The question which arises is why keep it and only release it when HH has released his.This is not being responsible.The PF are conmen who are desparate to win election but no…
Lets be clear here, the contents of the road map HH published are contained in the MOU as dictated by the grand coalition not by PF.
Its the grand coalition which provided guide lines that HH followed after signing the social contract. In the social contract, one of requirements is to publish a constitutional roadmap stating clearly that the referendum shall be adopted by a referendum process.
PF is copying every thing HH says.
HH leads and Lungu follows.
Viva HH.
UPND you were bitter in 2011, you are bitter now and you will be bitter after 20th January. Muchinje ba pumbafu, mukalowa!
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW LONG THE PREVIOUS CONSTITUTION TOOK BEFORE IT WAS ENACTED? I AM OF THE THOUGHT THAT THINGS DONE IN HASTY USUALLY DON’T TURN OUT GOOD. I THINK IT IS OKAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT ARE TAKING IT STEP BY STEP TO EXHAUST ALL THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WOULD BE IF THERE WERE DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT. I THINK THERE’RE LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN U ARE LOOKING AT THINGS FROM THE OTHER SIDE, I MEAN FROM THE ANGLE OF BEING IN GOVERNMENT THAN ON THE OUTSIDE. COZ OUT HERE ALL THINGS LOOKS STRAIGHT FORWARD AND A CONSTITUTION LOOKS LIKE A SIMPLE DOCUMENT THAT JUST NEEDS SIGNING- WHICH I THINK ISN’T THE CASE WHEN U ARE RULING.
HH did not release one. He stole one, just like he stole from the country. How can he realise what he did not have (own)? I hope people on the Copperbelt remember that he made his money from their misery.
Something seriously wrong with HH supporters blogging… Whether HH or Edgar or Muliokela released this, the big picture is that the politicians are giving as some tangible clue that we can have a consititution before a certain date.. thats what people want.. a consititution. it doesnt matter who releases it as long as we have it.. this blog sounds like it is invaded by kids who are raising up their hands shouting me ! me ! me! grow up.. this drama will be over by next week and guese what ,.. your pocket will still feel the same.. except for the priviledged few.. So go do something productive, thats how you make a real constribution to the country and your life
HH stole the draft anaba, he plagiarised. Cheap politicking those o us who are not blinded by tribalism and his lies have seen through him and his UPND
In Bemba batila wasensela ilyo kawa. If they had this road map already where was the need to play donchi ukubeba with it? These people are genuine lunatics.
Ok this makes no sense I just here same usual words release,implement and budget inga are u serious you are in drafts when,how no date or time frame. Are you serious tu PF atase. UPND have a far better plan
HH’s so called Road map has no time frame.They hurriedly copied the GRZ Road map to claim it was theirs.The Road Map from Governement tells you when tasks will be undertaken and by whom upto the finalisation of the tasks. One cannot say the same with UPND’S Road Map.
***** Eye of an Eagle*****
Has anyone else noticed that the dates don’t tie up? This explains that this document was rushed through to pre-empt HH’s commitment to give ZAMBIANS a new constitution. Please ZAMBIANS please don’t fall this trick and usher in a mediocre government of Edgar Lungu. What more can you see as proof my beloved country that EL is just wrong for Zambia. What more my beloved Zambia. If bringing RB was not enough now this!
“Don’t worry my son,” Mwango said. “I worry more about you my children than myself. I’ve lived on earth long enough. It’s your turn now. The future is in your hands.”
“No, dad, my future is in your hands. Just as you’ve paved my past years, you can do it again this January.”
“What do you mean?”
“You should go in the voting booth and vote for me,” Chileshe said.
“I still don’t understand. You are not standing for anything.”
“I am. One of the candidates on the ballot paper is me. I’m the one with a vision. If you see a Lungu in me, vote for me not because I belong to Sata’s party, and wish to carry his legacy and vision, but because I have my own vision. If I don’t, don’t. If you see a Hichilema in me, don’t vote for me because I am Tonga. Vote for me because I have a vision…
HH is indeed showing leadership to the failed PF govt. PF wawa!
What a joke! A roadmap that has no actionable time-frame. Just because HH released his Action Points, Lungu as usual does a “Me Too”.
1.”The roadmap will further provide for the appointment of a small but representative constitution implementation team to oversee the final phase following the enactment of the bill by parliament.” Following the enactment of the bill by parliament. Wow, a committee after enactment? Confusion indeed. PF has no clue if this is what the PS said, the she is clueless and even the Govt Spokesman is worse.
2.”It will also provide for the preparation of the work plan and budget for the remaining phase of the constitution making process as well as publish guidelines for the public validation process on the final draft constitution.” Budget? So the just passed budget does not include the constitution? How in the world is this the Govt roadmap? Shame on PF!
HH at work. You lead and the PF follows. Fuel price reduction is next after HH’s ORDER to the government. UPND is in charge. Come Jan. 20, the formalities of power transfer starts.
@ Wesoso, Edgar Lungu’s body language reveals so much about his character. His facial expressions, body posture, gestures, eye movement, touch and the use of space do not suggest that he is humble but a VERY DULL PERSON; he is lifeless, slow, lacks alertness, shy, no confident, no adrenaline, lazy, dull voice, dull personality, weak-willed, lost with no vision, and the list goes of UBU TUTU. I totally agree with you that Lungu has no quality of humility whatsoever but UBU TUTU BWEKA-BWEKA FYE. I cannot imagine having such a dull president – not even in my worst nightmare – never!
PF spent the past two days writing their constitution roadmap meanwhile borrowing from HH’s main constructs in the roadmap and tried to make theirs look better than HH’s roadmap. Come on guys, we are not…
we are not fools!
I can’t wait to set myself free from PF mediocrity on 20th January 2014.
WAIT UNTILL 20TH,YOU GONE CRY MWANA.THERE IS NO WAY HH IS WINNING,THAT I CAN TELL YOU.YOU CAN INSULT,YOU CAN PHONE IN ON RADIO AND TV SHOWS,YOU CAN BLOG BUT IT WON’T HELP.ZAMBIANS DON’T CHOOSE ON ELECTION DAY,THEY CHOSE WAY BACK AND THEY DON’T CHANGE.THE LEADERSHIP EXHIBITED BY EDGAR DURING SATA’S ILLNESS WAS GREAT AND HE STOLE ALOT OF PEOPLE’S HEARTS FOR THAT.DON’T THINK SATA WAS FOOLISH TO HAVE GIVEN EDGAR THOSE PORTFOLIOS.HIS HUMILITY HAS MADE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIM AND THEY WILL MAKE HIM PRESIDENT,COME RAIN ,COME SUNSHINE.STATE HOUSE,HERE WE COME.VIVA EDGAR ‘JAGUAR’ LUNGU.
Too late a hero bwana matwi kupakamana katema. You will cry next week. You will run in circles. You will lament and knash your teeth. You will remember the day you cheated the people of Zambia. Muzalila ha mambala imwe. Yakakufinina amatwi ayo ayakulu kwati no guza ukachimona. Word of advise if you are wise start packing to vacate those ministerial houses. Like it or not HH is way too ahead of PF. What will make HH win are the marginal votes this time around. Where he looses he will loose with divinity and honour. Where he wins it will be a run away lead. The gap will be constantly large until one by one you start passing out. Muzaululana ha makaka
Lol. Nice one @Sikazwe. Day made.
@ Captive Sikazwe. Ha ha ha ha, well said my friend!
The game is over for PF – really over. They are even luck that they had an extra time but continued to use it to fool Zambians.
It is pack and go!
@captive Sikazwe. Let’s wait for election day. People will judge for themselves. Question- what would you do or say if PF won next week and in 2016?
HH has made a lot contribution and provided checks and balances to PF.He demonstrated to Sata that despite not having worked in Government he understood the constitution and governance issues in Zambia and world over.This was demonstrated by amny letters of guidance to Sata.When he saw that Sata was not ready to listen he later called him Chimbwi no plan.I thought he HH was pompous but now I know why HH is well advanced than PF politicians .
HH means business and Zambians should seize this opportunity to elect energetic HH to go and work putting at least 18hrs per day at Nkwazi house,zambia will be change for Good.
That is true in Southern Province only. Everywhere else Lungu is leading. I feel sorry for you and now Munkombwe for failing to see the truth. Before end of next week, EL will be in State House and UPND will be divided on whether to continue with HH or find another person.
My free advice, don’t pick another Tonga. Try another tribe so that you kill the Tonga party song that is now so deeply understood by all Zambians.
People can not say that for PF because Edgar is not Bemba.
@Linkman, if PF won then you Zambian are *****s of the highest order! I would then like you to suffer until death does you part with your suffering. You and PF deserve each other. We all send our children to school so that they can develop into good and educated citizens who will give back to the community by representing us in different portfolios of life. You deny HH the right to lead just because he is Tonga? What nonsense is that? Tongas are the first settlers of Zambia and we all found them in Zambia and learnt from them a number of skills such as farming and grievances settling. Southern Province was the first breadbasket of the country before Sata started dismantling it due to the hatred he harboured for one man in the name of HH. Sata wanted to breakdown the SP financial base
If PF is serious on the New constitution they should let their President sign the social contract as a show of commitment.
Otherwise whatever they are saying are just lies as usual!
THE PF CONSTITUTION IS THE SOCIAL CONTRACT. AND IF YOU’RE SAYING U ARE WINING WHY PUSH PF PRESIDENT TO SIGN A SOCIAL CONTRACT?
Zambians we are almost there let’s not mess it up again like we did in 2011. We now have a chance to elect a real leader in HH. We need to retain the pride of Zambia in the world stage. No more PF lies, violence, nepotism, and donchi kubeba. Viva HH and UPND
Zambians twasebana sana Kubusungu,when they see the caliber of leaders we elect.Only Kaunda and Mwanawasa had the stature of a president.Chiluba was too short the only advantage was his ability to speak and he was confindent.Sata was an arrogant and illiterate Guy with looks of a mafia Gang leader,no wonder we did not receive a lot of foreign aid and grants.Now you have given us the waste leader.Look at Lungu propery the dental formula,The face and his body stracture and let alone his speech,my God it leaves much to be desired.Zambians lets be proud of this nation by electing quality people like HH.He is not only Handsome,well mannered,aticulate educated,talented,but also principled.he has the wisdom and presentable to donors.He can bring pride to this great Nation.
Thus what happens when you have a leader without a vision. Why wait for the opposition and then say we have one also, when the Zambian people have been demanding for this. Friends, its not about which party you support. Lets face it, it was going to make a huge difference if the pf had does this a long time.
PF and Lungu means business! This is a well articulated and detailed road map. The outlined steps indicate a clear understanding of Government and legislative procedures required to enact a new constitution. I predict that Lungu will go down in History as one of the most transformative Zambian Presidents
In your small diminutive brain !diot.
PF has already proven it is not at all efficient to match this roadmap! The Constitution would only be ready post 2016! Mind you politicians talk and talk unrealistically and expect the resources lacking civil servants to work according to their rhetoric! PF is trippin’ on this one
Edgar Lungu is very wise for keeping the faith and direction of SATA. What if he said he had his own vision, what would the opposition be saying by now? Departure from Sata. And people would have have been standing on the mountain shouting at Lungu for defying Sata, ALAS he has done the opponents a donchi kubeba.
Lungu is winning these elections because the hand of God is with him. Man just confirmed by electing him at the convention but God chose him way back before he was even born that he would lead Zambia one day. HH should just wait for that time , though unfortunately it is going to be Garry Nkombo to deliver to Southern as President.
The Under 5 boy copied this exact document a few days ago. He is indeed a dull clown. Well done PF!
Iwe! keep on being dead…your ghost ideas are not required here. Go back to Embassy Park hole in the ground and continue being sentry to your king. I thought I told you that last time. You were exorcised. Sha! Chibanda cha shani ichi bane kanshi?
Against all his opponents Lungu might actually turn out to be Zambia’s best President
No my dear the waste so he he is.Any he not a leader even by stature and appearance.Lol like a lizard alo mwaba twala ku United nations lol lol .Zambians mu kwatako choice.Ba president kwati in ba kaponya ba pa KMB.
This is what a real roadmap looks like, very original and lassed with real details, not that pliagiarised one produced by HH a few days ago.
Ba bootliker, it takes few hours to come up with a document like the one released by PF when one is given technical guidelines as HH did in his road-map. The visionless Lungu got the guidelines from HH and sat for days to come up with this one, trying to downplay HH’s vision.
i said it and am still saying hh leads and the rest follows . which one do you vote for the leader or the follower i for one go for the leader with a vision . chapwa kufelile kwamana kwasila . as for joseph katema and the rest please you have failed.pathetic failures pf . count down only 6 more days flight hh 2015
PF is talking Zambians for fools. What kind of road map is it where there is no timeframe? Whats the point of sending it back to pipo nd setting up more commitees when this has already been done. Truth EL wants to have 2016 elections under current laws not 50 plus 1
@Mary Tembo. The released documents by PF have all the details including time frames unlike the UPND version. You have also been asked to submit comments unlike the UPND version. You have beengiven the validation guidelines for content unlike the UPND version. Lastly- Are you objectively looking at the right document? Let’s just all calm down and read both versions objectively that’s all
@Linkman
When did stick to their time frame? Did n’t it say it will deliver the constitution in 90 days? Its now three years and counting bwana.
PF wants to scrap the 50 +1 clause.
Who has the original ROAD MAP? Edgar or HH
Kikikikikikikikiki
You know the owner of that road map is PF. Kabwalala bagwila. Abaa road map!
Foolish pf government. Vodka said this week that his government won’t b pushed to release draft constitution. HH all the way. Sorry too late back kachasu kuyabebele immediately.
This is a me too government.
No direction! !
@Sulwe You clearly haven’t read it, have you? This is one of the best documents ever released by the government on the constitutional process. Besides this is what we will all be following post the elections. Let’s spend time READING and give the government objective comments on these extremely progressive documents. The quality in these documents is incredible. The Minster of Justice, Edgar Lungu should be commended for a job well done!
there is no time frame on this copy cat road map for pf ….its meant to cast out an embarrassment since upnd has been a torch bearer…me too syndrome will cost them election anyway they are not even competent …pf are not ready to give us a new constitution take seriously…viva HH
@ Shamrock kindly click the links provided in the article and download the docunents. the roadmap document has all the timelines and details you want. Look at the last two columns and you willsee number of days per activity and time frames included. I am not sure we reading or looking at the same documents? The UPND version is the one without any timelines or details per activity.
Ba Vodka Lungu pa kanwa, pa menso…..sorry for me that face does not give me confindence.They say its humility but i agree with wesoso thats not humility bututu bulya. Only in Zambia can such a person be even considered to be a Republican president. Vote HH and UPND and maybe we could retain our lost pride under PF.
Viva FlightHH2015, now boarding and almost ready to take off.
@ Abana banfumu. There is a big difference between humility and ubu tutu. Lungu’s body language says nothing about humility they are trying to dress him up. Lungu’s body says one clear thing that he is very dull – ubu tutu bweka fye.
I don’t trust PF at all
@uh You can never trust anyone except God. As a nation we have been at these crossroads many times and every time we get disappointed when those we hero worship let us down after changing Governments. As for the roadmap I maintain that its an excellent document and one the PF government has got right. You can trust that that document is far better than the UPND version
Hahahahahahahaha………..ME TOO arrangement
Is EL surely carrying on Sata’s legacy? As far as I know Sata said the constitution was not animal driven. Meaning it was okay the way it is.
It takes *****s to believe who they are! where were you, why did you keep the roadmap, was it for your homes, now who is who? Even people without wisdom can make a judgement fairly on this one.
A road map whose time frame starts immediately after HH has announced his for a draft constitution that Edgar Lungu is credited for releasing immediately on appointment as Justice Minister! What does PF take Zambians for? More the enlightened as the illiterate care less for such documents. In essence item 1.1 is done thus we are on item 1.2
Me Too Government!!!!
THIS SHOWS THE GOVERNMENT IS CLUELESS AND DESPERATE
HH RELEASES THE ROAD MAP AND THEY RELEASE A DOCUMMENT.
NOW SOMEONE TELL ME HOW THE SUMMARISED DOCUMENT RELEASED BY HH CANNOT BE DRAWN UP BY INTELLECTUALS. PF BE SERIOUS
IF THESE DOCUMENTS WERE RELEASED IN GOOD TIME YOU WOULD HAVE A POINT BUT NOT
PF (ME TOO)
VIVA HH 2015
Time flame. A public document can only be copied if it were availed to the general public before and everybody is aware. But surely even in a classroom, a pupil takes his or her work for marking and he comes back to sit someone stands up and say it my work? But the question still remains, if you had finished your work early why did you keep it? For who?
But why keep it on the shelf?Borrowing Rupiah’s words Ni ya Nyoko olo awiso.Pf mwila mona kwata twalishishita.Bambuli imwe.
HH is already gorverning this Nation even though he is from opposition because whatever he says they say us too. Flight HH for better Zambia. On my way from Canada to give you my special blessing and Vote. Thanks
I cann’t wait to see UPND crying nafuchi nafuchi after 20th Jan.
Let us face the reality people if PF had the roadmap to enacting the constitution they could have published it long before UPND published theirs. Why have they decided to take long before they could tell us what they think should be done. Please let people do what is right HH has shown you he can do what is right for this country.
So UPND is also copy cat? But then we knew this, as their campaign tactics are a mirror image of Sata’s donchi kubeba, promise everything that people want to hear and give them nothing except the non-issues, leaked government documents, copy other peoples’ work and claim to be your own etc. Their alliance with PF and Sata seems to have worked well for UPND, it rubbed off very well almost carbon copy such that you cannot tell the difference between PF 2011 and UPND 2015.
If UPND does not want to admit plagiarism of the road map, they should at least claim that by revealing the leaked government road map, they have forced government to release it.
Cornelius Mweetwa UPND spokesperson when asked if the document was stolen from Government, he could nether deny or admit it. what is the meaning of that? It is admission that it was stolen.
@brian moonde you are are blind fool and ning nong pf mouse! how can you complement pfs release of the consitution just becuase they are seeking public votes for them thinking that they can hondwik them.your pf is childishly psychological,so you think you dogs can pull a wool over our face hahahaha you are really dulls and lunatics.are you not the same people(pf) who denied the public of their right to have their constitution released in 2014? you are not even ashamed of yourselves? This is another way of election rigging thats why you are even embarking on projects in campaign period so that you buy off peoples votes no babwa(dogs).
EVERYONE OF THE POLITICIANS STANDING ARE DOING ALL THAT THEY ARE DOING TO WIN VOTES. HH, EDGAR, MUMBA, NAWAKWI etc DO U THINK ANY OF THEM IS DOING IT FOR NOTHING? IF SO THEN CHECK YOUR MOTIVES FOR SUPPORTING ANY OF THEM THAT U ARE SUPPORTING. BY THE WAY I AIN’T PF AND I AIN’T UPND BUT ZAMBIAN.
Useless pf, HH all the way.
Useless UP and Down, Edgar all the way. Kikikiki
TOO LATE.. we can see that HH is indeed managing this country even in opposition..KIKIKIKIKIKI
Iye, managing the country, how? Please that is treason talk.
does this government has any fully-fledged(quallified) economist ? i think there isnt any that is why they are plagiarising HHs decisions as as he is a successful and quallified economist HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA pf lunatics should confess they are seeking HHs help and advise
I pity UPND mwe, on 21st January, I think people will mourn.
I tell you if ‘HH loses this time;
Its not BECASUE he is bad BUT because bembas have used numerical advantage as they hate Tongas to the bone. But i Know there are a few civilized ones who don’t….Sadly they are even encouraging Innocent Easterners who have ‘generally been neutral’ for some years to start thinking the same.
Otherwise all well meaning Zambians regardless of tribe know deep down their hearts that HH is the best amongst all.
Please Zambians don’t vote out of hate but love, God will reward you.
Just a DEEP THOT from Eastern.
God would not reward anyone for votes for a freemason. So most of us are saying NO to anti-Christian leaders.
@Kumaba, if UPND realises that they desperately need Bemba votes, they should respect us. They have continued insulting Bembas and expect to get their votes? No, no, no, we will give it to Lungu.
Bembas do not hate HH or Tongas in general. Why do you promote tribal hatred? Why are Bembas inter-marrying with Tongas if this hatred for Tongas is inherently in them? The problem you want to make Bembas an excuse for everything. If the Barotse Agreement is not recognized, its the Bembas. HH does not win an election, its the Bembas!! God help us. Truth of the matter is that tribalism exists only because you people politicize it and it is the easiest way of explaining political failures.
PF, have not forgotten how pompous you were over the constitution.
ati, ‘ zambia already has a constitution. u r asking for a people driven constitution, is there an animal driven constitution?. zambia already has a constitution!’ end of quote.
this was after promising that pf will enact new constitution withing 90 days after getting into power
so you think we are daft
Yes, UPND are daft.
PF are really exposing serious deceit and incompetence! We have a chance on 20 Jan 15 to have a competent government in place!
I wish I knew you Woods so that I bet with you. Mark my words, HH will NEVER rule Zambia. There is a Chosen one in place already.
The released document has a bold watermark loudly saying DRAFT. So has this road map been approved or it is still a draft?
It does not matter whether it is in draft or approved form. What matters is that it has been confirmed that it was stolen by UPND. How do you trust someone like HH who brags on stolen items? ECL for plot one come 21st January whether you love or hate him. He is the CHOSEN one. Leaders are born, God knew Edgar would reign as 6th President of the Republic of Zambia in the year of the Lord 2014.
Oh, sorry, in the year 2015.
if the pf road map is detailed than the upnd one. why dd u cry that the upnd has stolen yos… confirmed lairs…u are really feeling the heat from all angles. i cant wait to vote these PF chaps out of office
PF,Why keep on shelfs gathering dust?Borrowing rupiah’s words kodi ni ya nyoko olo awiso constitution?
Ladies and gentlemen. Let us be analytical and comment soberly without crowding our judgement with partisan interests. Please do not forget that HH never participated in this constitution issue and just jumped on the matter to get political mileage. In my view, HH can jump on any issue and take the side that he believes will earn him votes. Some of campaign promises are outrageous totally different from previous elections.
@Davidic
Even more outrageous than the 90 day promises?
Truth be told. There never was a roadmap. PF simply went into overdrive to produce one. Truly there are copy cats. Without someone doing the groundwork, they are incapable of thinking up anything.
Good bye PF.
Last week I was in Chinyunyu where people are campaigning silently among the farmers for UPND. The only thing EL campaigners have done is to put posters along the roads which is not helping them.
I know the mood of the people there because I was there 6 days ago. The farmers in that area want some one will support them in farming.
So this constitution road map is not helping PF in anyway at this hour for people to change their minds.
Counting down, wina adzalila
Social contracts have been signed between some presidential candidates and the citizens. It is therefore prudent for only those who have signed these contracts to inform the public about the road map. Where are you?
Useless Plagiarist National Disaster (UPND)
If PF already had the document/roadmap, why wasnt it released to the public? Why did it take them this long even after numerous calls from the public? They are just feeling the heat; cheap politics from Katema and govt…
Congratulations to HH for forcing the PF to release their road map! Keep them on their toes…! Ba Katema, what happens to your ‘orders’ for the police to investigate the source of the leak? it sure is going to be exciting the next few days!
HH stole the document, he did not force anyone.
IT SEEMS WE ARE STILL LEARNING WHAT DEMOCRACY IS. DEMOCRACY IS A GAME OF NUMBERS. YOU CAN HAVE THE MOST INTELLIGENT CANDIDATE, THE MOST EDUCATED LAWYER OR ECONOMIST. BUT IF YOU HAVE NO NUMBERS, YOU ARE NOTHING. YOU CAN SIGN A MILLION SOCIAL CONTRACTS AND INSULT ALL YOUR OPPONENTS. BUT IF YOU HAVE NO NUMBERS, YOU ARE NOTHING. YOU CAN PRAISE YOUR TRIBE AND SING PRAISES FOR YOUR LEADER. BUT IF YOU HAVE NO NUMBERS, YOU ARE NOTHING. YOU MAY EVEN HAVE THE BEST MANIFESTO, BUT IF YOU CANNOT ATTRACT NUMBERS, YOU ARE NOTHING. SO WATCH OUT HOW YOU SPEAK ABOUT OTHERS. THEY MAY JUST BE THE ONES TO MAKE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO STATE HOUSE. IF YOU INSULT ME FOR SUPPORTING CANDIDATE X, DO YOU THINK I WILL SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE Y? I WILL NOT CHANGE MY MIND AND WILL STICK TO MY CANDIDATE.
Well said my brother/sister. Am sure these words of wisdom have already hate some chaps, they know themselves but this is very true. Politics is a numbers’ game, period and PF has the numbers.
Viva Edgar Lungu
Well spoken, indeed winning is about numbers and not rhetoric. I am adding one more vote to no other than ECL.
Is it that some of you guys commenting on tribal lines have no vision or brains to talk on real issues? Shame to those who are bound to divide our beautiful country by uttering tribal remarks. Abash tribalism.
@ ?Sweet Sugar 52,
Okay, tell in clear sentence what vision is and then bring in yours. Please don’t browse the net ’cause I will know. I will tell you mine if you ask me.
I have said time and again here that HH is too rhetoric and I don’t even know why his supporters hold him in high esteem. Did this guy really graduate from UNZA? The roadmap he gave was so empty as it lacked time lines and modalities.
On the contrary the PF is specific and honest. A constitution is not just any other document, it needs thorough scrutiny and understanding by all stakeholders (people). You cant honestly as a serious leader take that kind of work so casually?
Indeed they need for UPND blind followers to come out of the box and see the world as it must be.
Bravo PF, you are 100% superior to all your competitors.
Viva Edgar Lungu
Yaba I am even salivating pakumona ka Enjoy drink kaba Minister ba Katema. He knows that he will continue enjoying under EJ. Viva PF, Viva ECL.
Fellow Compatriots,
Let us not be hoodwinked by PF last minute panic waya waya.
Zambians have agitated for the new constitution in all the 3 years PF has lied, spent money on constitution making committee only to REFUSE to release it. As Nox has said above, PF betrayed the trust of Zambian people. Let is be proud and free in our resolute stand to change leadership by voting PF out and vote in HH who has demonstrated that he can lead Zambia. Let us claim our international reputation as one of the maturing democracy in Africa. Lets retain our trust and respect in SADC region for rule of law, accountability and transparency.
Vote HH, vote one Zambia, vote progress in development.
Let the truth be told. The pf government has had the opportunity to give the Zambian people a constitution for the past three years, but chose not to because of their arrogance and myopia. Hence, we are in this mess today. Whether you claim that UPND stole the constitution road map from PF, it’s neither here nor there. If HH did indeed steal the idea of a constitution road map, then he’s Zambia’s Robinhood. Why do we have to wait for five years to get a constitution? Even longer if I included the Chiluba and Mwanawasa administrations. Just because Katema burned the midnight oil to produce this document, the facts remains that pf has taken the Zambian people for a ride because of our ignorance. Need to make politicians accountable for every promise uttered on the campaign trail.
This is now true that HH is leading this nation as whatever he says PF does just that,less than 48 hours after HH released his road map to the constitution,PF claimed it was stolen from them and in less than 12 hours they had to release theirs with a bit of polishing to put an impretion that it was their document when in fact not.All PF and Lungu know is to copy whatever HH say he will do.
When HH talked about reinstalling the nurses once he is voted,the following day PF reinstated the nurses.
Every well meaning Zambian will not vote for a government which has destroyed the econome as prices of commodities have risen, international relations destroyed,have made us go into an expensive by election due to their sefishness,our farmers are not paid,employment/wage freeze.VIVA HH its your…
So if HH hadn’t come up with the road map PF would have kept their rehashed and hastily put together road map safely hidden away in their donchi kubeba bag. These antics would be funny and entertaining if it was a TV or radio script. They made so many promises they only have to start implementing them. Why are they waiting for HH to show them the way before acting?
Hard to believe that today, after 3 years of ignoring and rubbishing calls for a people-driven constitution, they suddenly dig up a roadmap!
I told you guys, Lungu & Co spent Monday night googling “constitution”. And “roadmap”.
Relegate them to where they belong on January 20th.
This is goodness of having opposition parties. Imagine everyone was just saying Pf pf pf . All these things can not happen without opposition. Thumbs up.
Copycat syndrome. At least HH is making things work, had it not been for him the roadmap could have been stillborn after 20 th January 2015.
I have gone through the documents and there are some inconsistencies and errors in them. It is obvious they haphazardly put together the documents.
As an example just look at the dates at points 4.1 and 4.2… these are 2015 dates that have already been covered at 3.8 and 3.9 respectively. An entire govt can’t even review their own document. What is this ‘representative Constitution Implementation Team’ at 1.7 and the ‘independent group of eminent persons’ at 2.1 – are they different teams? And in their ‘Validation Guidelines’ at point 8 they are talking about of the final draft being submitted to cabinet for ‘for guidance on the next steps to follows’
I have to say this is merely more delaying tactics being employed by PF, unnecessary long process full of…