Wednesday, November 20, 2024

PF borrowing has equaled what UNIP borrowed in 27 years-HH

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UPND president Hakainde Hichilema interacts with residents in Bauleni compound
UPND president Hakainde Hichilema interacts with residents in Bauleni compound

United party for National Development(UPND) President Hakainde Hichilema has said that the Patriotic Front (PF) Government has now borrowed the equivalent to what the UNIP government borrowed in 27 years.

Commenting on reports that the Zambian Government has signed a loan agreement of US$418 million with China to finance the rehabilitation of roads on the Copperbelt under the C400 project, Mr Hichilema said that the contraction of the US$418 million loan by government to finance road rehabilitation on the Copperbelt is poor business judgment.

UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said that the money is at risk because the project has already hit cost overruns and delays at a time when other developments are being undertaken.

Mr. Hichilema said that he suspects that the PF Government has therefore signed this loan only to appease itself.

He has however warned that the US$418 million loan risks being potential loss to taxpayers.

Mr. Hichilema said that he finds it disheartening to see how the PF government is borrowing money at the time that Zambia is grappling with the economic challenges.

Over the weekend in South Africa, Zambia and China Development Bank (CDB) has signed a loan agreement of US$418 million to finance the rehabilitation of roads on the Copperbelt under the C400 project.

The deal was signed here on the side lines of the Johannesburg Summit of the Forum on China-Africa Cooperation (FOCAC) which closed yesterday in Sandton City.

The whole project would cost US$492 million with CDB financing US$418 million while Zambia would foot the 15 per cent difference.

China Henan has been contracted to do the roads works which are expected to start in the first quarter of 2016 and completed two and half years.

The project would be undertaken in all districts including Kalulushi, Chambishi, Kitwe, Chingola, Mufulira, Ndola, Luanshya and Chililabombwe

Finance minister Alexander Chikwanda, who signed on behalf of Zambia, said the agreement said the Government valued the cooperation that existed between the two countries.

122 COMMENTS

  1. Let us kick out PF and Lungu before they drown us in Kaloba. No vision, no planning leadership. Spend us you go syndrome.

    • The world bank has projected that 20% of the Zambian budget from 2016 will now go towards the serving of debt. In the next 4 years Zambia is going to pay US$1.7bn interest not principle on the debt Zambia has accumulated which from 2016 will amount to 40% of GDP in Kwacha terms. The bank projects GDP growth to slow to below 4% from 2016.

      So for you PF Moron who don’t understand the above number and what HH is saying yoy can ask Kambwili to translate to you in Bemba

    • In fact HH is being kind. Kaunda has contracted debt which amounted to 79% of GDP. The country came to a stand still when eventually he could not service the debt anymore and the economy collapsed. The GDP of Zimbabwe is US$8bn Zimbabwe has contacted US%8bn debt. You now understand why 3 quarters of Zimbabweans live in SA, Zambia and UK.

      You can not manage a modern economy with failures like Lungu, Chama and Kambwili. Show me their cv’s

    • In fact HH is being kind. Kaunda has contracted debt which amounted to 79% of GDP. The country came to a stand still when eventually he could not service the debt anymore and the economy collapsed. The GDP of Zimbabwe is US$8bn Zimbabwe has contacted US%10bn debt. You now understand why 3 quarters of Zimbabweans live in SA, Zambia and UK.

      You can not manage a modern economy with failures like Lungu, Chama and Kambwili. Show me their cv’s

    • Well said my president. PF is a bunch of reckless and thieving politicians.

      All what PF minions cares about is their pockets to be fill up.

      How on earth can you contract a loan which is only give your people mediocre jobs? That Chinese company which got the contract ,got it under stringent Chinese conditions to make sure that, all well paying jobs during the construction of these roads will go to fellow Chinese. This is what I mean when I say PF is in power to steal money and export jobs abroad.

      Whats good about the current Chinese leader he does not like corruption at all. So he will not give a penny to PF but channel the money to Hinan construction company directly.

      All those who stole money and banked it in China will soon be in for a huge shock because the Chinese…

    • All those who stole money and banked it in China will soon be in for a huge shock because the Chinese leader has embarked on investigating all the money African politicians are banking with the Chinese Banks.

      Xi Ping believes that help of Africa can only yield good and tangible results only and only if he deals with the corruption most African leaders are engaged in.

      SO you PF minions be warned that if you are stealing money banking it China, it will be confiscated one day.

      2016 Vote UPND.

    • Ba Action man, which action iwe imbwa.
      PF borrowed money has facts on the ground-infrastructure which UNIP and MMD never did. Progress must must be tangible not intangible like good numbers we heard fro MMD but nothing to show off on the ground. This is what makes PF, a party with vision, courage and amaka to perform different from these bazungu appeaser parties. Bulema mu PF not impotence in MMD and UPND. USA debt is USD20 trillion no one is worried. See Zambia’s GDP is now USD40billion so a debt of USD12 billion is nothing iwe musata nyoko.

    • HOW DO YOU KICK OUT PF FROM AMERICA ACTION MAN. YOU ARE JUST BARKING FROM AMERICA WHEN AT ALL YOU HAVEN’T EVEN BEEN TO ZAMBIA IN DECADES. THE MAJORITY IN ZAMBIA DON’T SEE THE SITUATION THE WAY YOU JUST IMAGINE IT. WHILE YOU DON’T WHY CURRENTLY THE ECONOMY OF ZAMBIA HAS SLUMPED DOWN, THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA WHO LIVE IN ZAMBIA KNOW THAT THE ECONOMY IN ZAMBIA IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY CHINA’S SLOWED ECONOMY- CHINA BEING THE MAJOR IMPORTER OF ZAMBIA’S COPPER WHOSE ECONOMY IS LARGELY DEPENDENT ON COPPER. BY THE WAY, BORROWING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD BORROWING. KK NEVER BORROWED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT. UNIP BORROWED FOR PARTYING.

    • This is where I always question HH’s intelligence: It is easy to confuse people by saying UNIP in its 27 years accumulated less debt than PF and people will get alarmed. An intelligent comparative analysis should tell us how big the economy was then compared with now. MMD had HIPC and debt which wiped out the debt.

  2. Ba HH instead of barking like a rabid dog, tell the nation how best you were going to build the roads, schools. hospitals and universities. Your inconsistencies are very worrying. I remember how about a year ago how WINDFALL TAX was your daily song and which song you have all of a sudden stopped singing because you know deep inside you that is not possible. Zambia do not need such cheap rantings BUT practical and real ones.

    • Wind fall tax is charged during a windfall *****. There is no windfall now. After all HH still says when there was opportunity to charge winfall, the PF should have taken advantage.

    • It’s this under 5 again..boring..One thing I have liked about PF is after so many years, I have seen a lot of new development. Our country has new infructure all over. Say know to my point here and I will show a new hospitals, new Schools,new roads, new police stations, new vertinally hospitals/lab, new courts, new University etc. and this is what a government is supposed to provide which we call develop. The reason why the gvt is borrowing to put these facilities for you is because u Zambians are lazy and not productive. You can’t think of forming your companies to produce things like soap, mayehu, cooking oil etc so that ur gvts can collect tax from u and use it for such expenses instead you want the gvt to give yout jobs. Very Foolish. If PF had not ventured into such massive…

    • looks like BoMutafela was cut from the cloth as Chishimba Kambwili,~ Crimplene, soaked in starch. you seem to be a half wit, you must be from Zambia Open or you have a nut for a brain, how do you talk about Windfall Tax in this era when now one is making profit. they Bus has gone , the Pf missed the bus, you have to wait till the copper prices rebound, thats when you can mention that word, if you where near me i would have poured water on you. cold water that is, just to wake you up. you seem to be sleeping.

    • With morons like Mutafela, what do you expect? You make Kambwili and Chama look like stars. I am sure God realises he made a mistake letting people like you be able to read and write.
      This country would be better without cursed characters like you. Wake up from your nightmare and see how bad your country has become!!!

  3. UNIP got into power over fifty years ago. If, according to Icilema, PF government has accumulated such a bill, surely nothing can be bad since both the times as well as the economic scenario would entail a much, much bigger bill.

    • So, your point is: It’s ok to borrow irresponsibly?
      I don’t know what you do for a living or what you went to school for, but guy your recollection of historical events is off tune. Analytically, the scenarios are different. UUnip ran a national airline, provided free health care and education. Under pf none of that is obtaining. Know UNIP government was not top heavy. Can you smell what you are stepping into?

    • I dont really understand these ranting. My question is: Where is this money being borrowed being applied? Who is the beneficiary of this borrowing? If a Zambian in Chilenje can not see what is happening with the road network there, then we really playing politics. If you leaved in Nthendere in 2010 then you went back there today, then you will know where the borrowed money is going. If you had crossed Luangwa bridge on the river bed and you went there today, then you will know where this borrowed money is going. If you had leaved in Chadiza in 2013 and you went there now, you will know where the borrowed money is going. Can I continue? Please lets be real for once.

    • @The Game on a point of correction on the facts:
      The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in South Africa was worth 349.82 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of South Africa represents 0.56 percent of the world economy.
      Where as Zambia at a glance according the the World Bank
      Population 15.72 million 2014
      GDP $27.07 billion 2014
      GDP growth 6.0% 2014
      Inflation 7.8% 2014
      For your information only the USA’s GDP in in the trillions of Dollars! Please acknowledge these facts

  4. Hichilema is just jealous. He wants to be the one to be doing this. Well i have a wise advise for you HH. Leadership is all about inspiring and not talking anyhow. To me you are not an alternative govt in waiting cause you haven’t inspired anything in us apart from what you are good at JUST CONDEMNING. You must know that in UNIP that what was a long time honestly can you compare that time to then things have really changed. You thinking and articulating of issue should make us see and believe that you are an economics as you yourself has put it. I want you to understand that its not education that makes someone a genius and about these two things i will advise you 1. HUMBLENESS – God is not interested in a person whoz proud e.g the story of SAUL in the Bible 2. WISDOM – SOLOMON was a…

  5. I think infrastructure development borrowing is the right way to develop a country which ever way one will want to look at than borrowing to finance salaries or elections or debts. When people see the road turn into awesome roads and better signage, I think people will appreciate that. I recommend PF that the contractor is a Chinese firm we are tired of half skilled poor work done by Zambia Contractors. Viva PF viva ECL

    • But roads are not development. Development is all about people’s quality of life and this must include access to quality education and health care, creating employment opportunities, availability of clean and safe drinking water, freedom from the threat of cadres and so on. Development must encompass key variables like life expectancy, adult literacy, access to all levels of education, as well as people’s average income. Our so called infrastructure development in Zambia is not matched by similar progress in human development. Honestly, what type of development is this where you walk along dual carriage ways in pain from a curable infection just because the PF has constructed roads instead of investing in Radiotherapy equipment and personnel in the theatres at UTH? The country has no…

    • Cont…. The country has no electricity, prices are increasing everywhere! Must development be a punishment to citizens?

    • Infrastructure development is the first and most basic step to development. Lets pick your example of UTH, when there is a good raod network, imagine how quick an emergency case reaches UTH. I hope you also know that now it takes about 3 hours to move from Luwingu in Northern province to Mansa in Luapula. Chirundu to Livingstone, i will let you answer that dear

    • John Chandwe thank you for the response. I will be sober in dealing with you. Its ok to construct roads because roads form a small part of development. But lets not mistake road construction for development. Have you ever heard of balanced development and unbalanced development? Both these forms of development require elaborate plans for them not to fail. I wouldn’t There is no point in wasting time trying to explain development to you. I know you are already committed to supporting PF however much they fail. However, get it in your heads that Zambia’s current economic challenges started when some Zambians including you elected an illiterate for President in 2011. This President threw all development planning to the wind and borrowed and spent recklessly as a result we have a collapse…

    • Cont…..collapse of fundamental economic variables like exchange rate, inflation, interest rate, balance of payments you name it. From an exchange rate of K4.95 in 2011 to K11 now. Inducing by election after by election, constructing sports stadia that went nowhere and universities, creating districts and setting up of commissions of inquiry that gobbled billions of kwacha without any plan has contributed to the current crisis. Where is loadshedding coming from? In the near 5 years of the PF’s rule and with all the Euro Bonds to their name, what stopped them from putting up a power plant on the 7km deep Lake Tanganyika? What of investing in solar energy? What stopped PF? Have the same roads lighted up the country? The first thing PF did once in power was to cancel the MMD Government’s…

    • Cont… Government’s US$2 billion Kafue Gorge Lower Hydro-electric Power Station project under the Sino Hydro Corporation which would have added 750 megawatts of power to the national grid by 2016. What development is this?

    • Formula for success:
      1. Increase earnings
      OR
      2. Reduce cost
      OR
      3. Do both

      EL must work on trimming his cabinet to reduce costs.

    • Chief Bright Nalubamba and the rest of Chiefs along Monze-Niko road cant wait to use the road that is under construction in this area of Monze. The people in Sinazongwe cant wait to use the bottom road. The people in Livingstone cant wait to use the modern bus station. People in Kazungula cant wait to cross the mighty Zambezi into Botswana using a new bridge. People in Monze cant wait for the new shopping mall. People in Nakonde cant wait to reach Mbala in 1hr 30min because of a brand new upgraded road. People in the copperbelt cant wait to see upgraded roads and their friends, relatives, dad, mum, son, daughter employed on the new roads project. People in Meanwood cant wait to see a new water reticulation system by Millennium Challenge Account project. People in Mkushi cant wait to see…

  6. Hichilema is just jealous. He wants to be the one to be doing this. Well i have a wise advise for you HH. Leadership is all about inspiring and not talking anyhow. To me you are not an alternative govt in waiting cause you haven’t inspired anything in us apart from what you are good at JUST CONDEMNING. You must know that in UNIP that was a long time honestly can you compare that time to then things have really changed. Your thinking and articulating of issue should make us see and believe that you are an economics as you yourself has put it. I want you to understand that its not education that makes someone a genius and about these two things i will advise you 1. HUMBLENESS – God is not interested in a person whoz proud e.g the story of SAUL in the Bible 2. WISDOM – SOLOMON was a…

  7. Mother Zambia please cry for yourselves we are headed for deep trouble mark my words. One can not run your home on borrowed money all the time. Even when you borrow, you borrow with a plan.
    The mines which are supposed to help in paying back these loans have since closed so tell us how we will raise the money to pay back?

    NO VISION PLANNED FAILERS

  8. Times has charged and the demand on good and services is naturally more than the 27years UNIP was in power all over the world.
    Just an example, in South Africa the government is now paying SAR150 000 per RDP house to a contractor which just last year was costing half that price.
    HH’s style of politics is fraudulent. Modern day politics is not by far a transaction has was the case with the RAMCOS transaction then, when people were less informed BOSS.

    • And the costs of gold, diamonds and other SA exports have also increased. The wealth of the nation has increased so have wages hence costs of buildings also increased.

  9. Ba Kas do your research and get to know what happened with RAMCOS. At times even chaps that have been to school like have become so useless like Kashimba Chimbwili, Mumbwa Phiri, please do more research than expose your hellishness

  10. borrowing is like lying. you lie today & you lie again tomorrow to cover up the first lie and the process continues. Borrowing and lying is a bother and sister to PF

  11. Wea did hh get his degree from..? Surely, as an economist like he claims to be, he was supposed to put economic factors such as devaluation of kwacha into consideration before comparing 1960s market forces to 2015 ones…! Iam not an economist but common sense tells me that a k1 of unip time is equivalent to say k100 if not more of today..! Plz Bo hh don’t embarrass yourself…! Think before you talk…otherwise we will doubt your qualifications..!

    • The borrowed money is not in your kwacha but in hard currencies which do not lose value any how! Even if the value is lost it is gained just after a short period of time! Don’t think in kwacha terms iwe cikala!

    • Munene you are practicing economics made simple. Don’t argue with people who have economics degrees when you have none. This is exactly the kind of calculations your government is making. Simplistic. Primary school level.

    • ..@munene…
      ….please do not display your ignorance in public like this…have seen any comparison in figures in the above article..??…check your common sense once again….it may not be so common after all…you are the one embarrassing yourself…you say you are not an economist…who are u then??…because even a baby-sitter would clearly understand the comparison..

  12. Zambians can shock you,praising a government for borrowing money that will cause our children to pay in the future.do we really understand what this causing for our children or we simply don’t care for them?in the days of mmd we would hear the government say we have raised so much revenue and this money will be used to constructed roads,that’s no more its just about borrowing because that’s the easiest way out you don’t need to thinks but pick from several sources of people who have money to give at a cost.what lead unip having problems?it was too much debt which of has reached at the same level in just 4 year!let’s be serious as a people and not think hardships is normal.

  13. Comment:hh is nothing but dull ,know wonder sata called him uder five not only in politics but also is thinking capacity is so low. Surely how do u campare olds and now, i wönder how u become rich nigga

    • @Stil please don’t display your ignorance on this forum….you are the one dull…please!No wonder Zambia is in Shambles cause of people like u using your bums to think not your brains…even if I start explain simple fiscal and monetary policies in economics u wont understand…just keep quiet

    • Sata also called all his MPs and ministers useless. Your current president was at the time one of his ministers and MP. He had double dose of uselessness. Lucky for HH, he has education to fall back on. Ba lawyer Wenu lisaka.

  14. you pf cadres come to the villagse and see how we are suffering with essential goods prices are exagerated .am in nyamphande area where the president come from its really sad. people have stopped bathing or washing clothes, they eat once in order to keep food for tomorrow because they dont know what tomorrow will be. if you have not experienced hunger you can say borrowing is good but us in rural areas have felt the most difficult times

  15. I am no fun of HH but Lusaka Times, please use a better picture. Why do you like using this picture when you have better ones in your database …. is it your crude sense of humor or …

  16. HH, now that the Kwacha in appreciating and the infrastructure projects are almost complete, you seem to be running out of talking points.

    Schools and universities were built on borrowed money. UTH was built on borrowed money. My PhD was on borrowed money. A new Trades School is being built in my area on borrowed money.

    Europe could not be where it is if it did not borrow. Please read about the Marshall plan immediately after the Second World War.

    • If everyone is a borrower including Europe & American then who is the moneylender who is raking in these million Dollar’s? If its China as in the story then how come China is a moneylender? And why can’t Zambia emulate China the Shylock(moneylender) instead of Europe the borrower. Don’t mention IMF & World Bank as Shylocks cos they are owned by countries who are moneylenders!
      I don’t think even Europe borrows at this pace & if it does then there are always repercussions. You don’t need to look further than Greece the European borrower. Britain, Germany, France & USA may borrow but within manageable budget plans & you don’t even get to know when they’ve repaid. In Zambia when they repay even dogs will know cos repayments have to be in form of HIPC cancellations.

    • The only problem with your reasoning is all those countries have a manufacturing base. Zambia imports everything and makes nothing.

  17. Do not take statistics in a wrong way because numbers can be interpreted in any way. Firstly, there is a time value of money which any economist should know about, USD 5bn is worth a lot less today than it was in 1974. Secondly, no one should deceive you, Zambia desperately needs the current infrastructure projects that the Government is embarking on. The UPND will not tell you this, but if they got into office, they would find a better Zambia than the PF found. When an exchange rate is not favorable, Zambians must scale down on imports and should buy locally manufactured products.

  18. Mary just concentrate on farming elyashi lya kumushi .dont wait for government. ifyumbu ninshi mushalimine na cassava/what where you waiting for ??

  19. The borrowed money is not in your kwacha but in hard currencies which do not lose value any how! Even if the value is lost it is gained just after a short period of time! Don’t think in kwacha terms iwe cikala!!

  20. If govt is borrowing for development thats fine cos we are able to see where the money is going …so what ? What will HH or Kabimba do differently if they came to power ? Sheer jealosy and envy for ECL will not help any one in this country.

  21. On a serious note Zambians lets stop joking.Zambia is being strangled by the murderous called PF Government.The economic problems will be huge next year.This will be the outlook of Zambia in the next 3yrs if we allow PF to continue.
    1.Inflation will raise above 20%.(Hyper Inflation.)
    2.The interest rate in Banks will raise to over 25%.Meaning few Zambians will have access to capital.
    3.Few or no one will be paid there retirement packages.poverty among the old will increase by over 80%.
    4.Hospital bills,Schools fees,ZESCO bills,DSTVbill,Transport fares,rentals and Food prices will be above the ability of average Zambians.
    5.College and University graduates will be roaming in streets selling there bodies and stealing without any hope of being employed.
    6.Crime will increase by 100%…

  22. …most CB roads rehab were covered under 2012 link Zambia 8000 project with an estimated total cost of $5.3bn….some of the roads rehab were started but stalled…its either someone had grossly under estimated or the funds were mis-applied….deviated/used to pay civil servants salaries…which I’m sure even this latest amount may vanish in similar way….PF, while in opposition, cried foul when MMD started similar projects of grading rural roads using ZNS in 2011…..accusing MMD of rigging and vote ‘buying’ because it was an election year…why wouldn’t the opposition think in similar terms now..??….HIPC tag is not something any poor country would want to be associated with…..

  23. The project would be undertaken in all districts including Kalulushi, Chambishi, Kitwe, Chingola, Mufulira, Ndola, Luanshya and Chililabombwe. What does Chikwanda mean when he says all districts in CB but leaves out Lufyanyama Masaiti and Mpongwe districts.As a CB born and dweller and Zambian at the same time,I think its not wise to spend all the money on the CB roads alone.Part of this money should have gone to finish the Kalulushi/Lufwanyama/Kasempa turn off road which can boost or promote agriculture along these areas as focus now is on agriculture. Also the Kalulushi depot turn off to Chief Mukutuma area need a tarred road as it has potential in agriculture and timber. The Mpongwe/Machiya up to Mukubwe crossing the into Kabwe and Kapiri Mposhi districts.All these roads I mentioned a…

  24. PF is so desperate to win the next elections and so needs a lot of funds to finance their corrupt activities. Half of the funds may never reach the intended projects, whose timing is equally wrong. Hichilema is right, he is not saying construction of roads is bad but that the timing of undertaking these projects was made in bad faith.

    Here is what I think are the reasons why these guys are so motivated to go ahead despite been advised not to continue spending recklessly,

    1. Remember RDA is still at state house and not what people want you to believe, so some funds will be diverted for personal benefit. Chikwanda is on record of saying Chinese companies are so corrupt so is very to do a deal with Henan, search Post archive.
    2. Remember also PF needs a lot of money to finance their…

    • Ba Action man, which action iwe imbwa.
      PF borrowed money has facts on the ground-infrastructure which UNIP and MMD never did. Progress must must be tangible not intangible like good numbers we heard fro MMD but nothing to show off on the ground. This is what makes PF, a party with vision, courage and amaka to perform different from these bazungu appeaser parties. Bulema mu PF not impotence in MMD and UPND. USA debt is USD20 trillion no one is worried. Zambia’s GDP is now USD40billion so a debt of USD12 billion is nothing iwe musata nyoko.

  25. 2. Remember also PF needs a lot of money to finance their campaign for next year’s presidential election. Some of the money needed for their campaign will be financed this way.
    3. Lungu and PF did not anticipate that things would be this bad to the point that they are no sure whether they will win next elections. Since coffers have dried up and in this way they know they can help themselves with the loot as they may not have another opportunity. They do not love the country, but love themselves.

    Remember it is in the DNA of some tribal groupings to lie and steal and will stop at nothing!

  26. HH YOU ARE JUST BITTER AND JEALOUS ARE YOU TOO BLIND NOT TO SEE ALL THE ROADS ,SHOOLS HEALTHY CENTERS AND UNIVERSITIES JUST AFEW TO MENTION THE PF GOVERMENT IS PUTTING UP.YOU CLAIM TO BE RICH YES YOU ARE RICH WITHOUT WISDOM COPY WHAT DANGATE IS DOIG FOR ZAMBIA HE IS EVEN MORE POPULAR THAN YOU DESPITE BEING A NIGERIAN BECAUSE OF HIS WIDON IN DOING HIS BUSINESSES.

  27. 7.Life expectancy will reduce to 35yrs for women and 27yrs for men.
    8.Levels of mulntrition will triple to 80 mulnorished children in every 100 population.
    9.Civil servants may start receiving their Salaries every three months.Meaning 4 times per year.
    10for Police it will be worse .Police will not be paid but will be allowed to make there own money by arresting and getting bribes like in Congo.
    11.The rule of law will breakdown completely only those with money will be able to survive the poor will have no voice.

  28. Could it also be true that infrastructure development is the most widespread since UNIP era? Let’s get the full story.

  29. H.H. is very right as a concerned citizen he is able to voice out.Those that are saying that he is Jealousy are shallow minded because the truth HURTS especially if it affects you.H.H. cant be Jealousy of Edgar because if you compare the two ( Edgar has been wearing salaula for nearly all of his life while the H.H has all it takes e.g Mansions etc)

  30. remember we have one Zambia one nation.No one chose to be born Tonga,Bemba or Luvale.God who is the best judge will help us chose a leader next year.Amen.

  31. Ki ki ki Someone thinks if he won elections by mistake,he would develop the country with money from exporting cow dung.This is parochial thinking.Borrowing for massive infrastructure development is health because in the long term,the country will benefit.

  32. What is good about having the best roads in the country but failing to equip schools and hospitals?
    Our children were writing their IT exams at 03hrs and you call that development..Kids are dying of cureable diseases like diarrhea and someone still wants to stand up and claim development.Keep in mind,these debts will be paid by our children in the near future..Look at Greece.

    • you just introduced them to this subject and the teachers were conducting this exam for the first time so the next time they will polosih on the challenges they had

  33. HH has said the Government has borrowed the equivalent of what UNIP borrowed in 27 years. I don’t know if this is true, but if it is, the comparison is inappropriate, especially coming from an accomplished economist such as HH. I suppose HH’s point is that we are worse-off today with a loan that equals the UNIP Government’s debt way back in 1990. If I’m right, then I disagree with him. HH is one of the best brains we have in Zambia today in the field of economics, but on this one he has missed the mark. To explain my point, I’ll start by defining some economic terms. In my search I found this definition of Gross Domestic Product (GDP): The sum of gross value added by all resident producers in the economy plus any product taxes minus any subsidies not included in the value of products…

  34. In my search I found this definition of Gross Domestic Product (GDP): The sum of gross value added by all resident producers in the economy plus any product taxes minus any subsidies not included in the value of products. GDP per capita is GDP divided by midyear population. In other words, it is per capita income for a given population. The ratio of Government debt expressed as percentage of GDP is a measure of the strength of the economy in any given country. Here are some statistics for Zambia: Government debt to GDP was 120.63 percent in 1990, reaching an all time high of 277.53 percent in 1991. Government borrowed beyond the value of GDP. You can check this data at

    • ************** The country was severely indebted. Government debt to GDP was 31 percent in 2014, with an all time low of 28.80 percent in 2013. The country is comfortably within its means to borrow and better able to service. Zambia’s GDP in 1990 was 3.288 billion USD and in 2014 it was 27.07 billion USD. GDP per capita income in 1990 was 419.19 USD and 1080.96 USD in 2014. The lower the Government debt as a ratio of GDP, the less risky the debt.

  35. Pathetic fools always bark with their ass.es wide open instead of their mouths.shame on on all supporting the careless borrowing at the expense of your children.your children are the ones who are going to pay those debts by then you will have died of Aids you maggots.Be patriotic n reasonable for once please.

  36. please you people education is not the only key to succes it is just one of the keys.you are busy HH this,HH that.be mindfull that talk is cheap. viva na chakolwa wathu 2016 nafuti twakolwa

  37. Let say for example and very simple terms in 1990 one earned k50 and has borrowed k500 and the same person now earns k500 in 2015 and borrows k500. Is this the same loan or someone thinks Zambians are so dull and he is the only intelligent man living?

  38. Sounds like an ignorance of time value of money. Yes they have borrowed quite reckless, but k’mon Mr HH be a bit proffessional. Its like saying a loaf oF bread sold at K0.5 in 1985 is Now K10 so the loaf of bread is now 20 times more expensive

  39. Hichilema is just jealous. He wants to be the one to be doing this. Well i have a wise advise for you HH. Leadership is all about inspiring and not talking anyhow. To me you are not an alternative govt in waiting cause you haven’t inspired anything in us apart from what you are good at JUST CONDEMNING. You must know that in UNIP that was a long time honestly can you compare that time to then things have really changed. Your thinking and articulating of issue should make us see and believe that you are an economics as you yourself has put it. I want you to understand that its not education that makes someone a genius and about these two things i will advise you 1. HUMBLENESS – God is not interested in a person whoz proud e.g the story of SAUL in the Bible 2. WISDOM – SOLOMON was a…

  40. These foools are only doing this to forestall losing popularity. Have u heard of any loan agreement to do the Solwezi /chingola road? No! And yet there is no copper left on the copperbelt. The new copperbelt is Northwestern province. But look at the roads. No one talks about the roads there in solwezi, home of the largest copper mine in Africa. It also has Lumwana and kalumbila mines. I now understand why ethnic wars start in Africa. This is a case of surgical discrimination of Northwestern Prov. But pipo cannot be suppressed for long.

  41. All of you who are supporting this reckless borrowing are nothing but ignorant scrumbags. Muzanya njala Chaka chino

  42. Guys,
    I thought Zambians lived in credit. I worked at Luanshya Mine (Roan Antelope) from 1976-1982. Zambians then were asking for “inkongoli.” To this day, I’ve never been paid. So, the government is just carrying out a DEEPLY ENTRENCHED culture.

  43. Matthew 11:28, you don’t understand the wisdom of God. All you are saying has no meaning in the spiritual realm. While we appreciated our HH’s massive learning and wealth, God is not interested because he doesn’t rule using education or wealth, he says a contrite heart I desire. It’s you people who are saying EL is useless, nkasulwa kubantu tekuli TATA? to God EL is special. When EL saw his weaknesses as a mortal man he ran to God, and didn’t depend on his own wisdom which is useless. Remember when the prodigal son went astray, the bible says, when he came to his senses he said how many hired servants of my fathers’s have bread enough and to spare, I will arise and go to my father. EL realised and has gone to the father and the father has received him. I have heard many people saying HH,…

  44. This debt is contracted to be used by chinese contractors building bumpy roads which are not durable at the same price we used to pay for good contractors years back. How can a road done last month already be so bumpy off Libala Road and joining near Kalundu market in Kalundu? Why spend so much on roads when the contractors are failing to give us good durable roads? Better to wait until you get proper contractors not these poor finishers. China is just exploiting Africa by giving these loans and then you give it to a chinese company who will externalise the money and leave you with nothing as the chinese roads . will only last five years. Zambians and Africa wake up, china means no good; china is the new imperialist but worse because the workmanship is poor but at the same price

  45. While PF cadres and leadership see nothing wrong in borrowing in the name of development, remember the wise proverb in Kenya: ” borrowing is like a wedding, repayment is like mourning”,. It’s ok to have excellent roads but at what cost? Is there a sustainable program to maintain these roads or a few years from now we will be back to potholes?

  46. HH your excellence HON HYENA you must be a bad bussinessman who depends on workers only. Really where do think money would ve come from to construct roads,schools,hospitals,clinics,railways,hydro power stations . Its insane to think that you can do these using local funds. Please go back to bussiness take dangote way not this u risk loosing a lot. Gbm and you can put zambia at a different level not ni politics please. This primitive way of acting like mad guys is costing our nation no progress. change

  47. Even in our homes we need to have everything we admire in shops but to manage our limited resources we deliberately shun Kaloba and we tend to wait until such a time when we have fully repaid our debts but for this government it’s ALUTA CONTINUA……..Please Son of David have mercy on us. These pipo ruling us seem to do things first and think later after months or probably years

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  48. These PF kaponyas are accusing who ever condemns their borrowing of being jealous! People are not against borrowing but the rate at which these visionless idi0ts are borrowing which is not sustainable! Should these f00ls win elections next year they will continue borrowing and the questions is, is there a mechanism put in place of paying back these huge loans they are contracting! The answer is NO! They are simply living for the moment! We made a big mistake of putting illiterate Sata in state house!

  49. These PF kaponyas are accusing who ever condemns their borrowing of being jealous! People are not against borrowing but the rate at which these visionless idi0ts are borrowing which is not sustainable! Should these f00ls win elections next year they will continue borrowing and the questions is, is there a mechanism put in place of paying back these huge loans they are contracting! The answer is NO! They are simply living for the moment! We made a big mistake of putting illiterate Sata in state house!!

  50. These PF kaponyas are accusing who ever condemns their borrowing of being jealous! People are not against borrowing but the rate at which these visionless idi0ts are borrowing which is not sustainable! Should these f00ls win elections next year they will continue borrowing and the questions is, is there a mechanism put in place of paying back these huge loans they are contracting! The answer is NO! They are simply living for the moment! We made a big mistake of putting illiterate Sata in state house.

  51. Solwezi Chingola road is under construction so what type of discrimination are you talking about ? NWP is being misled by Southern who are following the tribal path of hate for PF.As Zambians,we should learn to appreciate what govt is doing.Hating some one because of a tribe is evil.

  52. It is the PF govt which completed the M8 road from Zambezi to Chavuma.Do not be cheated that upnd will ever do better than PF in NWP.Within a short period of time,Lungu has performed very well.

    In 2011,you were again cheated that Sata would cut off the province to Angola,introduce homosexuality bla bla.Do not be cheated again because the truth is most Zambians are comfortable to continue with ECL.

  53. I am just listening to SUN FM all callers phoning condemning PF are coincidentally tongas so it is like TONGAS have risen against the PF GOVERNMENT.

  54. people don’t eat roads they eat Food and use money to bay what they want.Even RB was building roads but we voted him out and brought in Sata who promised more in the pockets.So 2016 its HH.VIVA HH wina azilila.

  55. it’s rather shameful for hh to allow his economics to be challenged even by simple laymen and kaponyas. obviously hh has no strong argument here

  56. Someone, please educate these chaps saying Unit did not make capital investment and projects. Really? How many hospitals did Mmd or pf build? How many schools and roads? Industries developed, instead of destroying them. Am afraid for Zambia if people don’t know where they are coming from for they for sure never know where they are going!

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