TRIBALISM is an evil that must never be allowed in Zambia and political leaders who aspire to assume the governance of the country on the basis of ethnicity should be frowned upon, President Edgar Lungu has charged.
He said he was alive to the historical fact of how UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema ascended to the presidency of the opposition political party following the death of its founder Anderson Mazoka.
President Lungu said prominent lawyer Sakwiba Sikota was denied the chance of becoming the president of the UPND after the death of Mr Mazoka on account that he was not Tonga even when he was heir to the position.
Addressing a rally in Senanga yesterday, President Lungu charged that no political leader should be voted or given the mandate to preside over the affairs of the country on the basis of tribe or ethnicity.
The President said Zambia had remained united since independence and that citizens were enjoying peace and unity irrespective of their divergent regional beliefs. He stated that it was irresponsible for some political leaders to embark on the campaign of sowing seeds of tribal divisions.
President Lungu said Zambians hated and abhorred tribalism because they had always lived as a united citizenry.
“Do not hate those you disagree with because we are one people. I have been forced to take time to talk about tribalism because there are some political leaders who believe that they can only take up the governance of this country on the basis of tribe. We know what happened when the founding leader of the UPND, Anderson Mazoka died. There was a declaration that only a Tonga was to become the president of a party and Sakwiba Sikota was rejected because he did not hail from that region. Tribalism is an evil and must never be allowed to have space in this country,” President Lungu said.
He said what was regrettable, however, was that some leaders of the opposition parties were not condemning violence and vulgar language among their cadres and leaders.
The Head of State said he was confident that the Patriotic Front (PF) was going to win the August general elections because of its achievements in the last few years the party had been in Government.
“Some political parties are saying it is our turn to govern. Governing the country has nothing to do with tribe…it is not about being Lozi, Nsenga, Bemba but what you can do for the people,” President Lungu said.
He stated that after the death of Michael Sata, some people declared that only a Bemba was supposed to take over but that Zambians rejected the call and instead chose him to succeed the late president.
He said all the people who were advocating for tribalism in the PF had left and had either formed their small tribal parties or had joined other political parties.
“Those who wanted another Bemba to take over the leadership of the PF after the death of president Sata will continue to fight me. When I appointed Inonge Wina as my Vice-President, they were angry with me. We are going to fight tribalism wherever it will show its ugly head, so let us not believe politicians who believe only tribe can make them leaders,” President Lungu said.
And kanganja must take over PF soonest.
Edgar, listen – the tribal tag against HH and UPND failed a long time ago. Please look for other strategies. Hakainde is now out of control – he’s unstoppable. People want visionary leadership. Your talking rubbish about HH won’t help you and your PF. You call yourself humble and yet this is the kind of crap you want to feed people.
ALL Eastern Province are MMD MPs who won in RB administration. All Eastern province MPs are endorsing Lngu.
Dora Siliya is minister because comes from same village as Lungu.
RB shifted to Lungu away from Nevers Mumba because Lungu is from RB’s tribe.
What the f$&&^^k is Edgar fooling the Lozis is for? The know who is Sakwiba, why remind them? He is a jerk.
Is this the President of Zambia speaking or one of his representatives? Cant believe it!! I would understand if it was Frank Bwalya saying it.
Ok. Edgar is logically thinking. By today UPND would have been no more or like UNIP or MMD.
This tribal talk will not bring food on our table you Visionless president. Tell the people what you will do between now and 11/08 before you leave affice unlike HH this HH that. No amount of tribal talks will make Zambians change their determination in ushering double HH to state house and if its in Barotse, just forget…. Its UPND’s bedroom
Guy Scott is really causing havoc in PF paka tikalonge HH in State House. look at the panic from Edgar, Dora Siliti etc. Frank Bwalya, and Mumbi Phiri have fainted and can no longer speak.
Instead of talking about policy and strategy issues to address problems the masses are facing, someone is mourning about why Sakwiba Sikota didn’t become president after Mazoka as it would have been easier for him today to win the august 11 elections because UPND would have died under Sakwiba just like his one man party died . Could this be a symptom of the havoc Guy Scott is wreaking on PF?
Mr President sir
Can you honestly stand up and say all what you have said about tribalism with the following
1. Dora Siliti eats and sleeps tribalism
2. You took over power in Kabwe through violence
3. Your top leaders insult other tribes day and night
I hope sir, you are aware that violence is as worse as tribalism. The violence ascension to Presidency of PF was as bad as the tribalism you are preaching about. The only difference is, UPND had other candidates while you sir, you only had pangas
Just tell the Lozis why you don’t want to honour the BA64. Trying to divert attention from the real issue of Barotseland. Lozis are not dull. Mina your Veep. That is why she will lose even as MP there. they don’t paly with thinking.
Even Sakwiba Sikota refused to travel with EL to western province to go and present him before lozis to invoke anger in them that he was dribbled by HH to be UPND president. Saki knows how unpopular EL is in western province. I foresee a 100% win for UPND on parliamentary candidates in western province. Wina azalila very soon.
““Some political parties are saying it is our turn to govern., …”
IT’S OUR TURN TO GOVERN!!!! ABAICE ABA BALEYANGALA! TURN KWATI NIMPETA BALETEYA ATI NOMBA NINE! YOU UNDER 5s MUST KNOW THAT IT DOESN’T TAKE A TRIBE TO RULE ZAMBIA. IT TAKES WHAT ONE HAS SHOWN TO THE CITIZENRY COUPLED WITH WISDOM, LOVE FOR PEOPLE, PATRIOTISM FOR COUNTRY, AUTHENTIC APPEARANCE AND DEED, THE MANNER IN WHICH ONE APPEARED ON THE POLITICAL SCENE (NOT THROUGH BACK DOOR), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY ACCEPTABLE TO THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE OR SIMPLY HAVING A NATIONAL CHARACTER.
EL should concentrate on explaining about the State House millie meal exporting business he is involved in with bene Musenge. Also we need answers for the PF connected ritual killers they are now shielding.
the statement that sakwiba should have been upnd president …is utterly stupid!
Sad that a man of such low caliber can be President of Zambia. Every sensible person knows that incompetent leaders in Zambia use tribalism to stay in power. Mr. Lungu, you`ve just failed to deliver, period. Lungu is forgetting that it`s him who took over the PF presidency without being elected. Mr. Hichilema was elected UPND president at a convention using a civilized process. Sakwiba Sikota never wanted never wanted an election, he wanted to be hand-picked. In any vase Mr. Sikota form his own Party, and where is it?
We all know that Miles should have been President of PF but Chagwa connived with Wina to start fake convention proceedings and then vote by pangas. Lungu is an unrepentant crook with the slippery character of a used condom. Zambians are all the worse for having this crooked thief as President.
Yaaa so Sakwiba because he is Lozi was dribbled by hh mmm. So that’s how HH became unpd president merely because he is Tonga. Rubbish. What a tribal party it is. No wonder unpd is full of Tongas a party for Tongas.
In all history of Zambian politics no party has promoted divisiveness and hatred as the PF. The seed of tribalism and regionalism was sown by PF and is being nurtured by PF! PF for me gets distinction for mediocrity and greed going forward that despite really having no agenda for the country the general PF membership with its general Lungu want at all costs to hold on to power! For many of them whats good for the gander should not apply to the goose. I am afraid that I am inclined to urge all and sundry to start thinking of advocating a Zambian federal government for it is in the open that there are regions doomed to the background should the PF mindset continue. God help us!
Come Sunday …this lazy bum will be seated in the front row on a big leather sofa in a church near you ….and will be preaching about peace and unity!!
Iwe bukalabobe what diet are you taking to easily forget that Miles sampa was the dully elected Pf candidate.
Haters will hate Sir continue with good work
ECL 2016
This is good work for you?
President Lungu you should continue with your “good work” of looting and plundering Zambia through kickbacks on road contractors who want to be paid, FRA illegal maize sales, Zesco electricity exports while Zambians are in darkness, and plunder of Eurobonds proceeds.
HH is a good economist but we still remember how he got to the helm of UPND. Its very foolish for a Lozi like me to support him because of the well-proven TRIBAL TAG. poverty or no poverty he denied us of the opportunity to rule Zambia and that we shall never forget !
Just listen to what you are saying….very, very tribal.
Us lozis know who Sakwiba is. You are not Lozi my friend. Lozi people are not tribal, for this reason they will support with scrutiny credible leaders. Tongas and Lozis are just one and the same. These tribes love one another and for this reason lozis have not forgotten the insults you leveled against Tongas.
@ Janza Rebel
It’s a pity that you have the audacity to insult malozi kaufela and say “its very foolish for a Lozi like me to support him because of the well-proven TRIBAL TAG” Well I also as a Munyengo from Makoma will tell you it is rather condescending for you to say what you just said. Mr Lungu speaks on both sides of his mouth and is a nefarious politician. When he is in the Eastern province he tells those folks to never vote for any other person other than someone from the Eastern province and blatantly uses tribalism. Siliya also uses the same language. And you Mr or Ms Janza, who made you a spokesperson for us and who the heck taught you KASWAU to insult all of those who do not kowtow to the diabolical system being perpetrated by your benefactors? No sir some of us “fools”…
@3 Janza Rebel, HH DENIED SAKWIBA OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO RULE ZAMBIA. AND NOT ‘US’ (AS LOZI PEOPLE), BECAUSE ‘US’ IS STILL A TRIBAL FEELING. DIVORCE AN INDIVIDUAL’S AMBITION FROM A TRIBAL GROUPING’S AMBITION. YOUR STATEMENT IS JUST WHAT ECL IS UP AGAINST. IF ONE WANTS TO RULE ZAMBIA THEY MUST PROVE THEMSELVES. IF THEY START PROVING THEIR ETHNICITY, THEY WILL LAMENTABLY, FAIL LIKE HH HAS BEEN FAILING AND WILL YET, AGAIN FAIL. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT MILES SAMPA AND GBM JOINED UPND BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME TRIBAL FEELING LIKE HH AND UPND AND HENCE, BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHERS FLOCK TOGETHER.
I thought what EL allegedly to have said was exactly what the meeting called by the church condemned and discourage all politicians to talk about. By the way who has stopped Lozi to rule??? And who EL to say a lozi was supposed to be a leader UPND.
@Janza Rebel: no normal Lozi would support the Bemba and Nyanja speaking thieves who currently rule Zambia. We know that most of you in PF joined because Sata was screwing your sisters and female relatives. That’s was the only reason he tolerated you. Normal Lozis love law and order and that can only come from UPND at this point in time.
HH is a good economist but we still remember how he got to the helm of UPND. Its very foolish for a Lozi like me to support him because of the well-proven TRIBAL TAG. poverty or no poverty he denied us of the opportunity to rule Zambia and that we shall never forget !
And who gave you that right which you were denied. When individuals start thinking that they are entitled to something; that brings illogical arguments and backward thinking. It is such thinking that makes Israeli fools shoot a 15 year old Palestine girl walking home from school, this thinking made Hitler what he became. You my friend like me like everybody are entitled to nothing. All you have is opportunity to make you be whatever you can be. There’s too much stupidity and laziness going round, people think they are born this that. Get your mind back, because there are people out there who would rather you don’t.
Every tongue uttering satanic incantations, lies, injury, smear, slander and contentions against HH, receive the destroying wrath of God.
You spirit of oppression , lies, mesmerisation, hoodwinking, slyness,division and plunder die in the Name of Jesus.
Anyone dividing God’s people on ethnicity be disgraced by fire, in Jesus Name.
No weapon fashioned against HH prospers.
How did HH deny you as a people to rule Zambia? Sakwiba formed his own party and his following comprised only his jackets so how was he going to win presidential elections. President Lungu’s bid at trying to turn Lozis against HH and UPND will not work. He is getting wrong advice from turncoats like Kaingu. There will never be a time that Lozis will turn against Tongas. How come Lungu has never condemned Siliya, Mumbi Phiri, Kambwili, etc for making disparaging remarks about other tribes.
Political Indaba my foot. Edgar has gone haywire
ECL FOR 2016
ECL for 2016= Njala na Poverty in 2016
This man is cursed as a leader. He lives in self denial, does exactly opposite of what he tells people must do. He lacks judgment and the curse will be upon his head unless he stops pretending!!!! Take it or leave it! Saki is running his party and has not complained. Why using tribalism now?
And it is a good thing Mr Sakwiba Sikota was kept away from the Presidency of the UPND because had he taken over, the party would be history by now. I speak as a fellow Lozi person on this.
Sometimes no matter how much we may dislike a person we must learn to give credit where it is due. What Mr Hichilema has done to keep the UPND going strong is no mean feat. One just has to look at the plight of the 2 former ruling parties to know how difficult it is to maintain a party in the opposition in Zambia. As soon as they left power UNIP and MMD became mere shells of their former selves as their members jumped ship to join the parties that deposed them.
Can one really objectively say that if the PF lost power in January President Lungu has what it takes to keep the PF relevant and intact…
In ‘August’ I mean not January, my apologies
ziko, you are the one who is cursed not ECL.
Armchair Analyst, the answer is a Big NO.
You are very right Armchair, UPND would have been no more.
Lungu’s is the most stupid statement coming out of a sitting president. Lungu is the most mediocre president in Africa at the moment. What a shame
Your insults will not change the truth. The truth hurts. The questions still remains to be answered by UNPD and HH himself. Is it true or not that UPND made HH its President just because he is Tonga? What was the rationale behind such an action? By accepting that appointment on tribal grounds, what message is HH telling the voters?
You and other UPND commentators are not answering these questions. Insults are not the answers we want. No amount of insult will change the facts. This matter is never going away and will be a card in the 2016 campaigns.
Zambians were not given a say in who should lead PF – Edgar and Nsanda steamrollered it without following the PF constitution. We are all alive to those historical facts and they will never change
Infact its the tribalists in PF who installed jangwa because he was useful for their hold on power,ed don’t deceive yourself that you qualified for the office.
Zambians were given a very big say on who should lead the nation. (Also a historical fact…!)
ECL you wanted Sikota to be UPND President so that it was going to be easy for you to win. Sikota failed to run his own tantemba party. Just wait and see how HH is going to white wash you. HH 2016.
BA MMD CADRE, JUST WAIT YOUR HH WILL RETIRE FROM THIS TRIBE PARTY AFTER AUGUST 11. IFINTU IN BA LUNGU.
We cant forget the lifting of pangas and stones and how some PF officials were lynched at PF convention in Kabwe in order to put Chagwa who has brought misery to our beloved nation. This time its HH for president because we want new ideas and positive thinking.
it is so surprising that at the time when the country forgotten about tribalism someone a head of state for that matter has mushroomed the issue. this clearly makes me believe he (Mr lungu) was behind those tribal remarks that his SG and Kambwili talked about regarding the Tongas hence failing to discipline them. recently we have seen the likes of kambwili and kapata showing hate towards the opposition UPND leader yet my president in quiet. it is so disappointing to hear this from the person i thought would preach unit in the country. am really disappointed with my president. i haven’t heard HH talk about tribalism.
Sounds strange. How come the other 8 provinces who had one man one vote accepted that?. Which party is the man who made the pronunciation now?. Nothing is more entertaining than politics. I just read that Ted Cruz is actually Lucifer according to the ex Speaker in the US Republican nomination race.
And SAMPA should have been PF president when Sata died.
That’s round round. Next tell us HE how he sold our companies and made himself rich
Those are the questions you should have asked Sata, he was a leading official in the government of Chiluba who oversaw peivatisation. HH was a small fish at that time. We have gone over this particular tired story.
Those are the questions you should have asked Sata, he was a leading official in the government of Chiluba who oversaw privatisation. HH was a small fish at that time. We have gone over this particular tired story.
You are too dull. How did you find yourself abroad?
If you cannot use your head you will remain poor forever. So don’t blame HH for your and your entire clan’s poverty. Your jealousy oh HH’s wealth will not take you anywhere. If someone who pockets a client’s money can be president why can’t HH hold that office if Zambians feel his time has come?
during convention after death of Mazoka pipo voted and HH won sakwiba lost because he had no following, no financial muscle so de issue trabalism we buried a long time and who told you lungu that only nyanjaz and bembas are to be presidents shame?
a desperate president indeed. desperate times require desperate measures
There he goes trying to put a wedge between the people of western province and southern in his selfish effort to win an election, and coming from a head of state makes it even more shocking. This is clearly a strategy embarked on by pf, the other day it was Dora singing this song. What this actually shows is the desperation within them, they are gradually realising how much ground they’ve lost wherever they go. We’ve witnessed many elections since 1991 but this is the lowest an sitting president has sunk just to garner votes.
He just pressed a panic button.
Tribalism was done away with a long time ago. Mr President, tame your tongue.
….Sunday Times Thursday 29, 2021….
….I was alive alive to the historical fact of how the PF president ECL ascended to the presidency of the ruling party following the death of its founder MCS.
..young and vibrant Miles Sampa was denied the chance of becoming the PF president in a fraudulent tactic orchestrated by ECL and madam Wina…
…no leader should be voted or given a mandate on the basis of raising of hands or legs….
…any aspiring leader with proven (by the courts of law) fraudulent cases must not be given a chance to preside on the affairs of the country….
I hope you did not have smokes for lunch!
I remember an old friend who used to have a dry bun and smokes for lunch during my secondary school days, the ‘prep’ sessions would be painfully hilarious because of his inane tomfoolery…
I hope you did not have smokes for lunch!
I remember an old friend from secondary school who used to have a dry bun and smokes for lunch, the afternoon ‘prep; session would always be painfully hilarious because of his inane tomfoolery…
DESPERATION IN THIS CAMP… Mr. President, tribal again. we have gone over that chapter. Give us a break…. The issue is that you have failed……. and you have 3 months and 11 days to concede defeat just like HH did in Jan 15. Pwahahahahahahaaaaa…!
Toma how did you expect other tribes to say no as if you don’t know Tongas? Who is not a were that HH is using other tribes to cleanse his tribe tag
Lungu has been using Bembas to hold on to power. Have you noticed that the fight is not between the Ngoni and Tonga but Bemba and Tonga?
This is exhibit enough why Lungu’ s minions have dwelt solely on the issue of tribalism without any comment from the president himself because he’ s the originator of tribal talk and he enjoys the vice to the full. I have never heard of anyone from the UPND camp talking about tribalism but that it is the common language for the people in the ruling PF as they are busy smearing people in the UPND of being tribalists. How true is this or is it just a PF political gimmick so they win the sympathy of the Zambian masses ? The president himself is on record that he won last year’ s presidential by election through crookedness because the procedure which is laid down by the party constitution was not followed. Then, is he a legitimate president of the PF ?
Message from HH to the real tribalists!!!! including many cadres here.
As we keep mingling with our relations and friends in our ancestral villages, we always remember that our destiny is to unite and not divide our beautiful country.
And it must be the goal of each one of us to eliminate the concept of division by class, skills, race, gender, ethnicity, income, and nationality. We are all equals with a common pulse to survive in a country with great and equal opportunities for our people.
And we must thank the Lord our God for what He has rewarded us. He knows our hearts and sees our actions as He undertakes repay us.
Thats how presidents speak my brother. HH is fit for Zambian presidency.
I don’t remember anyone saying only a Bemba can rule PF….maybe we read different books but what do we expect from someone who does a Lazarus at Independence Stadium….pleae don’t take Gods people for granted you will dance pelete!
@23 ellen
Edgar Lungu broke every rule of the game to ascend to the top in PF. He dribbled all others – Kabimba, Sampa etc..
@Poke-you are just too dull to radically perceive rational issues beyond your tribe!You are irrational & backward,get a life Moron!You are not different from any PF crony-full of empty heads & amafi in almost every aspect of human development!Just look at your perspective of Zambia under Lungu,Lungu surely must be jailed as all these atrocities & hate speeches all over Zambia are from his shallow stinking mouth & poverty stricken air head!PF under Lungu is a fraud & a flea circus!You can’t call Lungu a president of Zambia,may be of PF!The Ghost is a sham & dull for he has no brain to critically analyse what he says,very dull adult of the 21st century,what a mistake Zambians made to vote for a fraud & a moron of an adult as president!
@The Civilized Sam, calm down……
This utterly Shamefull for a whole president who has supposedly spent 10 billion US on development to resort to tribal politics. Very Shamefull. Just like all his minions in PF who are peddling tribalism, Lungu is also heavily embroiled in the corruption at FRA.
MR PRESIDENT SIR, YOUR SPEACH IS IN FACT INCITING TRIBALISMN IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE WELFARE OF THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD DESIST FROM GIVING POLITICAL SPEACHES LIKE WHAT YOU ISSUED IN SENANGA. HH DID NOT PUT HIMSELF THERE, HE WAS VOTED IN JUST AS MUCH AS YOU WERE VOTED IN TO REMOVE THE RIGHTFUL ACTING PRESIDENT SCOTT.
And someone else should have been pf president after sata”s demise if lungu was not tribal at the kabwe convention
SWIIIIIIIIIBOOO AAHAHAHHAHA
SINKAMBA WISDOM – I am still alive. I am one of the delegates who attended the convention where OUR IN COMING PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED AS PRESIDENT OF UPND. Sakwiba Sikota lost elections in a clean way. I am not a Tonga but a Namwanga by tribe. I am proud to have belonged to UPND from the time it was formed. I am sure one day we also in UPND God is going to give us chance rule Zambia. I am pretty sure and convinced that our President HH will change the economy for the betterment of every Zambian and even to those out side out boundaries. He is an intellectual who does not believe in failing as he has already demonstrated in his life on how to grow the economy at house level and national and corporate level.VIVA HH 2016, VIVA UPND. Zambian are already aware and know this time around that…
We kalanda we!
Why campaign on tribal lines if you claim not to be tribal, what you want to imply and what you are saying are totally not matching because you are using the same thing you claim to not like to champion your cause to perpetuate your leadership.
With the knowledge that you have, you are supposed to see the way you speach is disjointed.
I have never known this. If what Lungu is saying is true then we should just ask for UNIP to come back. Tribalism was being tackled better by UNIP than by any of the present parties
SO the president just like dora also hates the Tonga people.??????????? Sad…THE ENTIRE PRESIDENT CAMPAIGNING ON TRIBAL GROUND???? HONESTLY
Lungu is not presidential material. He is even very lack that he is in that role.
Miles Sampa should have been President instead of Edgar Lungu, he got it because of Anya Manda.
Very interesting. …#The Head of State said he was confident that the Patriotic Front (PF) was going to win the August general elections because of its achievements in the last few years the party had been in Government.
The Presient is facing a lot of pressure from Bembas who claim PF is theres. He is fully aware about it and has confided of the struggle to many people. This statement reflects his own struggles of tribalism in PF where he is a loner. In any case, had Sakwiba taken over, UPND would not even be anywhere near forming government in August. It would have collapsed ten years ago.
Unbelievable comments from the head of state. Paranoia about HH being in state house has really engulfed him totally to the point of being incoherent. Recently, he had to differ with the IG on ritual murders, blaming the grisly acts on people who wanted to go to State house!
hH must just say why he accepted to lead upnd on a tribal card. Simple. Otherwise Zambians for that reason will reject him again. Besides, he has already lost too many times. His bitterness increases with each loss. Now his bitterness is overflowing beyond limits. Why am I saying so? Has he ever mentioned Armageddon in previous campaigns? Never. This time should be his last otherwise this bitterness will maim or kill him.
@Laiga,
Your vain attempt to deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which President Lungu is involved, is noted.
EDGAR LUNGU SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT AS WELL… We had a Vice President Guy Scot, then Miles Sampa was robbed in Kabwe after Edgar went with thugs to vote using pangas, Legs and slashers
My thoughts exactly. Spot on President Lungu Muntu wandi. .I have been thinking about it for some time. But I guess democracy has many faces. That’s why for me ulya musambashi ?#?Tetiawine?
@Ba Dodod,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time because the maize scandal won’t go awa.
I don’t like this dull mo-ron called Lungu. Mr Lungu, you are dull.
This Nebukadenzer President and his goats has no shame left in him! What a man?
how does it affcet you sir..just the way Guy Scott should ve been Presidnt of PF afetr Sata’s death..HH is the man of the day
I have never come across a wealthy man who inflicts himself with so many unnecessary sorrows like HH. Those ticks around him who suck him dry must be ashamed of themselves. Let the man enjoy his money without those pretensions praises from hangers on. Such lousy ticks eating where they have not down. If I were HH I would have long kicked them out for milking him relentlessly.
@Laliga,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time because the maize scandal won’t go away.
This tribal tag on HH will never die. It was sealed the day he accepted to be president of UPnD ahead of other more popular candidates on account of tribe. This is by far more important an issue to address than an economic melt down. Where will the economy be when tribalists start hacking each other? Sha
Dirty, shamless tribalists with no plan for the economy. The beauty is hunger and suffering know no tribe,
Come August, Zambia shall be free.
@Laliga,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time because the maize scandal won’t go away.
Shame on bakateka to continue preaching tribal politics,why didnt u tell senanga residents on yo plans for the country beyond 2016? this proved to that pf has no campaign message for electorates only vomiting hate speech which shall never bring food on the table of most vulnerable persons
interesting that the tribal talk is being made in senanga, where inonge and sakwiba come from
Edgar Lungu is a spineless devil possessed ar.rsewhore! Let us talk about the pangas you used in Kabwe. And those mother fuc.king coward solders you used to intimidate to Guy Scott!
How about putting all your efforts to wrestle the spiralling inflation and uncontrollable depreciation in the Kwacha? You scared little pig have misplaced priorities…. What an id.iot of a president!
You are an ar.sewhole yourself chi.kala you like insulting innocent people
Appalling and distasteful, actually by going to lozi land and talk sakwiba sikota is tribalism in itself.
You are all *****s. Do you think HH or Lunga will bring food to your table. No politician will do that for you. Wake and jerk off that syndrome. They cant bring change to yourselves and your family. You will hate and kill each other. Come September 2016 you will have same people(HH or Lunga) , same economy, same Zambia if you *****s will not wake up and think beyond your favorite candidate. Look for opportunities around you and take advantage. I am making money while you guys are busying calling yourselves names. We have problem today because your parents behaved the you do now. This is what one scientist call madness. Repeating same stuff your fore fathers did and expecting different results.
Fuseki nima politics yanyoko? If you are not into politics why bring your a ss on this site.
The president is very right as people like Miles Sampa,GBM left PF joined tribal party upnd because they thought that after Sata,a bemba or northerner should have taken over ,the way tongas did in 2006!!BUT SINCE US NORTHERNERS DO NOT SUPPORT NONSENSE,GBM AND MILES SAMPA LOST THAT FIGHT IN 2015!!WE WENT FURTHER BY VOTING FOR AN EASTERNER EDGAR LUNGU ON 20/01/2015 WHOM SATA LEFT FOR US THAN VOTING FOR EDITH NAWAKWI AND NEVERS MUMBA WHO ARE NORTHERNERS!!EXPECT SIMILAR VOTING PATTERN FROM THE NORTH FOR PF AND EDGAR LUNGU IN 2016 AS WE ARE NOT LIKE TONGAS WHO VOTE FOR TRIBE THAN ON MERIT!!whether miles sampa,gbm,bob sichinga like it or not,Edgar Lungu (an easterner) and his PF shall be number 1 in the north than their tonga hh in 2016!!HEY,WE CANT WAIT TO VOTE FOR PF ON 11/08/2016.”IFINTU NI…
@Eddy,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time because the maize scandal won’t go away.
Your Excellency, instead of dwelling on UPND past, can you please enlighten us on current state of the Nation where your Cabinet colleagues have become rich beyond imagination whilst People have become hungry?
Please enlighten us how it is possible in a Christian Nation that that CONVICTED embezzler enjoys privileges of the highest office of the land?
Can you please justify pardon of CONVICTED RAPIST o a minor for the sake of song glorifying corruption?
By the way, can you explain why our economy has collapsed under your leadership whilst you enjoy globetrotting in chartered jet in company of musicians?
Please Mr. President, forget about HH. He is not suffering hunger, destitution, homelessness, lack of medical care, collapse of law and order, corruption in Judiciary,…
…rioting, Police extortion,wide-spread unemployment, interest rates of more than 40%…………………
Please Mr. President, tell us what YOU have done for us to justify benefits You enjoy and paid by us the tax-payers, instead of talking of the past of UPND?
What a spineless head of state !!! Have you honestly got nothing else to talk about – you are the one fueling tribalism – you and your dinosaur cronies! Be Honourable and STEP DOWN !
Where is his Jemason coming from now? they must be giving him gonga! you can’t even differentiate anymore between a cadre and the president. they all sound both. Leadership has gone to the dog’s or maybe dog’s have come to leadershipkikikikikikikilili
The title of this article should have been: Guy Scott Wrecking havoc in PF. Or Symptoms of Guy Scott’s havoc Observed in the Head of State. Or Edgar Lungu has been diagnosed with Guy Scott’s PF Havoc. Or something in those lines.
l and my fellow Tonga Bulls are intelligent and hardworking. After just 1 year in office we shall make Zambia wealthy and then people will realise how good we Tongas are! Bet me.
HH and UPND has vehemently and repeatedly denied nor accepted that their party is a regional party stating that this is mudslinging by political opponents to tarnish their image and thus spoil their chances of victory in the forthcoming elections.
Their political opponents refute this by pointing out that in fact UPND has taken measures to dowse what is in fact a public perception. According to them, it was political expedience rather than structural politics to kill this same tribal tag that brought in Dr. Canisius Banda and GBM (non southerners) to be party vice-presidents ahead of other better placed candidates. ‘If it is not broken, don’t mend it’ they say.
Over the years HH has become well known and by his wealth and business acumen he has managed to bolster and amalgamate UPND into a closely knit unified entity, with virtually no factions, anchored around a common background. While this can be said to be a positive provenance, unfortunately, this is also the basis for the calcification in the public eye the perception that UPND is a regional party. The voting pattern for southern province in the last elections is a deafening knell of this fact. The tabloid post newspaper has previously referred to UPND as a “Bantustan” party.
welcome to zambia kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk thus why u ar making politics to be date game.say no to tribla talk/speech
As a Lozi-speaking Nyengo I want to take exception to Mr Lungu and Mr Janza Rebel for their insulting language (Kashawu). Mr Janza Rebel says that it is “foolish for a lozi like him/her to vote UPND”. Well Mr JR many of us in fact are fools because we voted that way. You are very condescending and patronizing of an entire people and if you know what LIKUTE means, you will retract your posting and apologize (kuikupela swalelo). Lastly I believe you have a troubling level of naivete to believe that a Lozi president would be good for you. No sir unless you are directly related to Mr Sikota, believe you me, no direct benefit would accrue to you as a Mulozi. Mr Lungu has demonstrated a troubling level of myopia by his utterances in Senanga because in Eastern province he insisted that…
Him aand kalaaki. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
That is a great President trying to turn Lozis against Tongas so that he can gain some. The next thing tribes will be fighting each other and he runs to the church as a humble president for prayer. I am glad you have seen so much potential in Sakwiba and you hold him with admiration. Let him be your running mate based on the potential that you have seen in him Mr President.
Very shallow stagnant minds from dull pf chaps! What are u implying then? Even if its democracy we have to be objective and reasonable in our dealings and sayings. HH was never in government even wen he amassed. That wealth. Tell yo Sata and Nawakwi and other cronies to answer such rubbish.
UPND is a Tonga Party. The truth hates
@Sax,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time because the maize scandal won’t go away.
Many can remember the rebuff by the UPND law-maker Mwiimbu that he is a contender for running mate to HH was not so much a renunciation than an attempt to delineate the party from this tribal tag.
Tongas are like somalians. They should go to the convention and choose a suitable non Tonga leader. This will help to remove the tribal tag and their backs.
@Sax,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time because the maize scandal won’t go away.
They will chose whom they deem suitable.
Why for example would they chose a drunk convicted fraudstar like PF did in lungu just because he is non tonga.??
out of the fullness of one’s heart the mouth speaks. Mr Lungu you crossed the line, this should not even be a subject to be entertained but you at it again and again and that includes anyone who espouses tribal talk, leave the tonga’s alone and fyi I am not tonga, but what difference does it make. you cannot begin a fight you are not able to win, inciting tribal animosity has far more reaching consequences than your life span. ENOUGH!!!
Just read an article somewhere about the maize export scam, If his excellence was intelligent enough these are the kind of things he should act on and gain some. But he must be in the middle of it. Dividing people against each other is not the based approach of ruling a nation. I would rather address issues which affect their welfare such as corruption, inflation, health care etc.
Where there is tribalism, there is no development.
That story is archaic, too old to be resurrected.
It is very clear that President Lungu is trying very hard to divide and rule. Now he is vainly attempting to deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he and a number of his ministers are evidently involved and implicated.
And some people on this blog have sensed what he is trying to do and have join in, in trying to make the FRA MAIZE SCANDAL go away. These are people who are sponging off PF Govt in its present form, with no regard to their jobless and hungry brothers, sisters, Fathers, mothers, uncles aunties ..etc.
The one who brought about tribalism in the UPND is Mr Ackson Sejani who has been maintained to date as Chairperson for elections in the UPND…He decreed then that only a Tonga would lead the UPND and that’s how the Supreme Leader HH of the UPND was installed and no elections were held as all people such as Sakwiba Sikota, Patrick Chisanga, Bob Sichinga and many others left after being intimidated including Mr Edgar Lungu current President of Zambia…So History cannot be rewriten hence what happened, happened & will continue haunting the UPND as long as Mr Ackson Sejani is strategically placed as Election Chair for the Party…
But the Supreme Leader HH of the UPND must be encouraged to offer checks and balances to the current Government and the next one…
@Zakeyo,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted.
@Cactus..Don’t argue if you were not born yet…
@Zakeyo,
LOL – This is confirmation that you are hell-bent on helping President Lungu deflect people’s attention from FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved. Soundly like you are an accomplice to this scandal.
You are wasting your time, my friend. You can go into the Archives and dig to your hearts content This scandal is not going away. There is a wise old adage which goes:- “Akabomba kabiye kamunda”. You don’t mess with people’s staple food and think you can get away with it.
Too much recycling of the same old story. Be creative and think of something new to talk about.
This talk of BA1964 is still going in circles. What was the composition of The Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland? The British Colonial Authorities left thorny issue like the Battle of Kashimir between Pakistan and India. The subsequent break away of Eastern Pakistan now Bangaledesh. This issue needs call heads and the President was right in his comments. But FDD’s Antonio Mwanza’s comments that the issue of BA1964 is not only for the President Lungu and the Litunga is misplaced. Suppose FDD formed government in future how are they going to handle this issue?
That story is in the textbooks of ancient history, as well as in the country’s political archives. Zambians have moved on. HH has been at the helm in UPND for far too long. How injudicious for anyone to discredit him of the job he has so ably performed for such a long time?
I didn’t know that HE Edgar C Lungu is a spokesperson for Sakwiba Sikota. What could be more shameful to speak ill of others as president than this? This man has no solution for this country…
Pabwato! pabwato! donchi kubeba! donchi kubeba! CHIMANGA(MILITSI) (OUR MAIZE has finished) ZATSILA PHEEEEEEEEEEE………..
@Moonang’ombe.
LOL – You are like sheep in the book ‘Animal Farm’.
Kacasuman at it again
Does this mean GBM and Banda cant be UPND Presidents?
upnd keeps ignoring its major albatross, hh election. Continue the proverbial way of the ostrich, head in the sand, and thus you will continue in opposition, period!
And we say we have leaders? ECL kuwayawaya Fye!
Mr.Lungu it is you who is promoting tribalism.What is the point of telling Lozis on this matter of UPND?
Have you run out of words to tell Zambians?
Hard-core tribalists are the majority of people behind the UPND party. The tribalism tag cannot be wished way because they the Tonga have created a tribal tag for themselves whether it’s in work places or the communities where they live. Take Mr Magande for example he is the man that sourced funding to persecute bembas and easterners between 2001 and 2008. That agenda has not died; given a chance they will still persecute the two major tribes. Someone needs to apologise.
@Captain Sankara,
Your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention away from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he is evidently involved, is noted.
Lungu is tribalist too by the way his appointments are made and how he comes out. If Sakwiba was a good leader, his party would still be alive. It is dead because he is not a leader that is why UPND folks didn’t vote for him.
Chimenomeno, if Sak was the president of UPND you were going to treat Sak and the Lozis the way you are treating HH and Tongas. Don’t think you are cleverer than us, chimbwi no plan.
When the full history of the UPND will be objectively written after 11 August 2016, it will show that ‘free agents’ of the MMD in the names of Madyenkuku and Mwanajiti invaded the UPND Convention and coined the slogan about Tonga leadership of the party. Immediately after the convention, they reverted back to MMD having left a poisoned chalice. Nobody else has uttered the tribal words.
Privatisation gives undue opportunities to people. The Russian oligarchs, etc. Here in Zambia, the privatisation project was monopolised by Bembas as consultants, negotiators, valuers, lawyers, advisors, etc. If the push comes to a shove, we shall name them after 11 August 2016. This is the explanation for Bemba affluence after privatisation.
Lungu you are suelless president take your stone age politics to the caves.Most Zambians are mixed tribes.with names like Chipego Bwalya Natasha Kalaluka.shame on you.HH viva Amagedoni is coming on evil Lungu.
Back to zero. Honestly, it was just a monnth ago when ECL was preaching against tribalism, but he is at it again, as a President he is not leading by his words.
How can we trust him? Can you trust such a leader? Not at all.
He has sunk so low in my face. This is too much. He would have done better to respond to Kayali accusations about Lubinda `s maize trafficking.
Where is 2020vision? I miss that lunatic’s comments, even though he was pamafi he always had an argument worth reading.
From an undecided voter: With all due respect, please raise the quality of your debate! This is pathetic and really your status. That position deserves better. I am not a hater, just disappointed.
I thought the President should be uniting us. So the prayers never worked.
Well , Going by the barrage of Insults from the UPND Bloggers, one can safely say that what the President said is very True. One thing is that on January 20th 2015 the Tongas Showed us who they really are. Other regions will also play that game on 16th August, 2016. The talk about the economy is all nonsense. You insult the Bembas day in day out. Then you get one big bag of Mealie meal , and you think you can hoodwink us. We are very safe with ECL as President. Not HH who ascended to the UPND Presidency because he is Tonga. The Truth really hurts.
#Well , Going by the barrage of Insults from the UPND Bloggers, one can safely say that what the President said is very True. One thing is that on January 20th 2015 the Tongas Showed us who they really are. Other regions will also play that game on 11th August, 2016. The talk about the economy is all nonsense. You insult the Bembas day in day out. Then you get one big bag of Mealie meal , and you think you can hoodwink us. We are very safe with ECL as President. Not HH who ascended to the UPND Presidency because he is Tonga. The Truth really hurts.
@Chuudu Chaitwa 3,
LOL – Chuudu? I am sure you meant Chuundu.
Nonetheless, your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention away from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he and a number of minister are evidently involved, is noted. And you think you can hoodwink people.
boooomuuuu, yukuyukuku
Dirty UPND agenda if they win the elections. Hard-core tribalists are the majority of people behind the UPND party. The tribalism tag cannot be wished way because they the Tonga have created a tribal tag for themselves whether it’s in work places or the communities where they live. Take Mr Magande for example he is the man that sourced funding to persecute bembas and easterners between 2001 and 2008. That agenda has not died; given a chance they will still persecute the two major tribes. Someone needs to apologise.
@ Malambo,
LOL – Either you are an easy-to-deceive-person and are blindly swallowing whatever President Lungu suddenly comes up without using your God given rational sense first, Or you are unsuccessfully attempting to help the President deflect people’s attention away from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he and a number of ministers are evidently involved. Probably you are both.
The issue of how HH became UPND president will never go away. it will remain for ever a stinky, thorny issue in the flesh of UPND. UPND can not offer any sensible rebuttal to this point. the best they can do is circumvent it with insults and vulgar language.
HH is losing again in August. There are no odds against ECL. He still stands very strong. UPND do not have any special case against him. So they are failing to convince the ordinary people outside Southern Province. It does not matter if HH gets 100% of votes from Southern Province. It is not a big enough pond. Just like how Moses’ snake swallowed that of Pharaoh, ECL will swallow all HH votes with ease.
@Asigai,
your vain attempt to help President Lungu deflect people’s attention away from the FRA MAIZE ‘SELLING’ AND EXPORTING SCANDAL, which he and a number of minister are evidently involved, is noted. You are wasting your time, my friend.
@Asigai but am not tonga I Support HH and believe in his capabilities…
Well Mr President how about you featuring a Tonga candidate in Eastern province. If you did then we can talk.
What diet are you taking to easily forget how you became a pfool president by using pangas.
Please tell that ka Lungu chap to just go and drink that is what he knows best if he thinks the tribal talk will bring him votes then he has is coming his way let him ask RB how he was kicked out, hope the church Bishops have read the nonsense this ka guy was talking about why should he be concerned with who leads which party in opposition? Stupid *****.
Then Let Chama take over PF as well…ba Lungu whats wrong with you…you behave like a person without any formal education…Had Sakiba been President for UPND….the party could have been buried a long time ago…
Lets not use state power to fuel tribalism…..Mr.president stand tall and tell zambians to be proud of their origins and they must work hard to make the difference….this is important boss…….us north westerners we get annoyed because you ignore us in terms of real development….we cant continue to abet this treatment…….for instance why didnt you priortise solwezi chingola road or show any excitement about the new copperbelt…..why?????????????????
Hail the conqueror.! President Lungu will win because he has a good Public Image. He is Balanced, always Working for good of Zambia. The others just jump on any emotive issue and plot to cause divisions among electorate.
There goes another misguided and Childish analysis of what transpired after the death of the great son of the soil kambela Mazoka. This Nigga is not fit to even talk about Mazoka because he was too classy for him. What happened in kabwe ?? one miles Sampa was dribbled and adoption papers were been signed at Mid night . HH is way ahead of you guys watch and learn what is to become of Zambia once the reigns of power is given to His Excellence the President HAKAINDE HICHILEMA … Hate him of Like him his time is now. Am tired of this mediocrity in my country
Just not going to happen, because you guys don’t have the capability to build bridges. You have no clue on what makes a win. Majority must vote for you. Unfortunately all you know is to alienate people. That is your downfall. Also you are grossly untruthful. Who gave you the mandate to do what you are threatening when HH comes into power? You can’t spell out your Agenda and people know a creepy Crawley when they see one. So much for mature intelligent analysis!
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The true Presido of up and down is Saki and not HH.For as long as haliasa halelila continues being at the helm,the tribal party will never see statehouse.
These Kachema bloggers really surprise me.What is it that you see in the tribal leader which can benefit Zambia.In Bweengwa where he went to sch,he has failed to put up even a small structure…..what kind of riches are these which can not benefit your pipo who always give u 100 percent vote ? Zambians open up your eyes and see.
@Charity
Its not HH ‘s responsibility to build school … but that of the government. Go to school and learn don’t show your ignorance here. its your kind that is taking us 100 years back grow up . People like you don’t deserve to breathe oxygen ….
Hard Headed will NEVER RULE.
This so called President is a nut case! A note to my fellow Zambian’s, let’s vote for visionary leaders and boot this MEDIOCRE “president” back to Chawama were he belongs. This is a time to talk about the serious challenges the country is facing and not a time to discuss UPND leadership. I wonder who advises this man. I rest my case!
Truth hates.
Even the current ZDA director could have made a better leader for UPND.
Comment:The so called head of state again z trying to divide the country by uttering tribal sentiments instead of giving hope to the people of zambia by telling them hw he z going to improve the livelihood of zambians,this man does deserve the presidency,the leader unites and not divides his people,its been said over and over not to use tribal sentiments ,but its coming from the head of state himself trying to divide the country,shame!!!,my fellow zambians we need our economy to be restored,i dnt mind if its someone from eastern,western,northern,southern or any other province is able restore our economy and improve the living standards of zambians and the fact still remains the same that pf has lamentably failed to govern the affairs of this nation,let us wake up my fellow zambians,the…
Zambians wake up don’t let these politicians pull the strings and try to pretend and woodwink u to believing phantoms and theories that they are the best to lead u when they ve nothing to offer and show for apart from propping and creating wealth and empires for their generations and not for u and me.The current leadership has not set any firm foundation for a forward Zambia which our children would aspire to for the future so that they can inherit and carry the mantle for a better Zambia politically morally socially and above all economically.
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The mmd left a plus balance sheet which this current leadership has squandered under the pretext of completing the projects their predecessors left but executed with no wisdom or vision spending all the money on the unfinished…
Eddy using Saky in soliciting for votes will never win you any vote. If Saky was a political factor by now ULP would have been a force to recorn with but whts the story? ULP is as good as dead. Therefore, you just wished it was Saky so that you could use the issue barotseland aganist him to win a vote. Too late bwana Lungu just face the fact.