South Africa’s biggest opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA) has said that it invited United Party for National Development(UPND) leader HAkainde Hichilema to South Africa to celebrate his release with the party.
Democratic Alliance leader Mmusi Maimane’s chief of staff, Geordin Hill-Lewis, said on Wednesday that Hichilema came to celebrate his release with the DA.
“We wanted to have a celebration on his release from prison, where he was treated disgustingly, and of which the details are only starting to emerge now,” Hill-Lewis said.
“We wanted to have a celebration with him but the impression we had was that we wouldn’t be allowed into Zambia, so we arranged for him to come here.”
Hill-Lewis said Hichilema would be attending and addressing the DA’s caucus meeting on Thursday morning, ahead of the sitting in Parliament.
He is also set to attend the DA’s federal executive meeting on Friday.
Zambian opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema is in South Africa for a three-day visit, during which he will be attending, amongst others, a question session addressed by President Jacob Zuma in Parliament on Thursday.
Mr. Hichelema arrived in Cape Town on Wednesday afternoon where he is set to be hosted by Democratic Alliance leader Mmusi Maimane, who was prevented from entering Zambia in May when he wanted to attend his court case.
Mr. Hichilema was recently released from prison after four months and seven days, where he was held on charges of treason because, it was alleged he obstructed Zambian President Edgar Lungu’s motorcade.
Mr. Hichilema’s United Party for National Development is part of a network of opposition parties in the region, organised under the Southern African Partnership for Democratic Change, of which Mr. Maimane is the chairperson.
The network is meant to give opposition parties a voice in the region, and it was also used in this instance to effect pressure on governing parties to respect human rights.
Mr. Maimane, together with Economic Freedom Front leader Julius Malema, were invited by Lungu for a meeting when he attended the recent Southern African Development Community summit in Pretoria to talk about their criticism against Hichilema’s arrest.
Both Mr. Maimane and Mr. Malema declined, with Mr. Maimane saying he would only agree to such a meeting when President Lungu committed to democracy.
HH is definitely getting bigger and BIGGER in Zambia and abroad.
PF has been shrinking after Sata.
In desperation they will use the Police, army, and courts.
The Governemnt should not allow him to go. He is still carrying a case that has yet to be completely thrown out.
It will be a mockery of the judicial system in your country if HH is allowed to honour this invitation.
I have a PhD
Thanks
BB2014,2016
I hope he will not just receive encouragement but also correction and advice from his peers such as Malema and Maimane.
It will not help if they will encourage him in everything, including clear wrongs.
Of course if he is encouraged to do whatever he wants he will feel loved, but those who truly love you will not always make you feel loved.
Wisdom goes beyond getting excited by those who make you feel loved but examining the value they add to your life.
Newtons law: To every action, there is a counter reaction. When you slap the wall, the wall slaps you back. Backfiring?
Someone will definitely have the last laugh in these political gymnastics!
He has been invited to celebrate D.A failure. Maimane in his inferiority has married a white woman and that is why the D.A thinks he qualifies to lead them. Maimane and Malemane are just little disrespectful brats who will not win anything in S.A. I feel sorry to chilema for getting advice from little twits
@tatwe,
stop the nonsense, I am married to a white woman 23yrs now, hold a corporate position in a white only environment with all my subordinates being whites, I can go on and on. But does that make me think I can lead all Zambians based on that? It’s only you who is inferior, and you( (and Mushota) thinks a white is much better than yourself. Feel sorry for yourself and not for chilema.
The point is your line of argument is faulty.
Maybe abroad.In Zambia; Wishful thinking.
It the end of the day, 2021, its the Zambia people who will be in the ballot both to decide the next president – Not Maimane or Juju Malema!
HH is not a factor what UPND should be reminded is that DA and EFF dont vote here in zambia so u are just waisting your time
Im 100% sure lungu is JEALOUS & ENVIOUS. He is so obsessed with RECOGNITION becoz he didn’t win the elections. It’s like driving a stolen car:- You’ll beat/insult anyone who tells you that it’s stolen.
HH i advise you to please sneak out of the airport, otherwise you may be prevented from departing by lungu & his thugs.
How can HH be becoming bigger when he is going to dine and wine with the party of the former racist apartheid regime of South Africa? HH should really have a sense of shame to associate himself with such a party.
@tatwe
It could not be inferiority complex to marry a white woman. Probably Maimane weighed the pros and cons of a white lady instead of black. From experience white women are generally easy to live with than their black counterparts who usually come with a bundle of problems that keep on multiplying exponentially until a guy is driven to insanity or drink.
Brother Jonathan, the boys from SA are watching you. In Southern Africa you can not hide under the guise of non interference , it won’t work.
HE IS GETTING BIGGER AMONG EMPERIALIST SPONSORS
All of this is about Copper not politics!
Maimane is a temporal leader of a temporal opposition party in SA! ANC is the people’s party for the next 30 years in SA!
Maimane is simply a tool of Anglo America who want to get back their stake in the Zambian mines! Anglo America are the inheritors of Cecil Rhodes BSAC and their false claim to Zambia’s mineral wealth!
Copper my fellow countrymen in the years to come will become the most valuable industrial metal! Why because of the rise of the electric vehicle -2040 UK and France are going electric others to follow!
Point
Advise your government to come up with strategies that can benefit Zambia by 2040. I mean simple, either you do it or others with a vision will do, so no need to blame Anglo America.
If you decide to vote for uneducated as MPs and nominated as Ministers and are incapable to think beyond 2021, then you have yourselves to blame and not Anglo America.
Powerful information.
We can’t be weak any longer my country men and women.
Zambia will be very critical to the global economy in the next 50 years.
And we can’t be Zambian kittens any longer such as we have been thus far, we have to be Lions now.
Vision 10/10 you speak like we have any control of copper today, it is still controlled by foreigners which ever way you look at it.
Anglo-American built good residential areas on the CB
Vision 2020, you write as if our copper is currently being controlled by Zambians, dullness or hypocrisy? l suspect that you are just worried about the formidable force that the SADC opposition will become to curtail any dictatorship in the region. In case you have been living under a rock, let me educate you, our copper is already being controlled by foreigners, our land is quickly being taken over by the Chinese, and our country has become a market place for south African goods and services. That is what should be worrying you instead of imaginary ideologies about Anglo American who are not here, we already have mopani and others doing what you are worried that Anglo American would do.
@biemba FYI Anglo America pulled out in back in 2002 and left the country in completely desperate state why? Because they wanted to put the country at ransom both due to some influence from some people that worked for them as well as to maximise profit so that they could bargain for a higher stake deal, it backfired terribly for them and eversince they have wanted to get back what they feel is rightfully theirs. Now these days the State through ZCCM IH retains a stronger hold on mining activities than before, of all the mining companies and their activities 11percent of their revenue goes to the State which is not what AngloAmerica want. Why has HH never come out strong against the mines? Because he is a puppet of bigger forces trying to get back in the game! Read about these things- go…
Ctn… go to your local Library and check out Times of Zambia, Post Newspaper issues from 2002 Jan to December for a better history of the whole picture!
Biemba
Well said, what these PF rats dont know is there is cheaper copper to mine in many countries. Just the other day mopani made GRZ dance because of corruption ati we are sovergne ?
Ati demand from electric cars makes Anglo want to come back to zambia ?
Biemba and 2020 you both have solid points, I think I like both of you.
You are the type of Zambian I appreciate.
Don’t fight each other, let’s fight the robbers robbing our country. We v been outwitted let’s come up with a strategy to outfox the foxes.
But the Anglo American theory is FACT!! That is why have the Oppenheimers have taken a political agenda through the Brenthurst Foundation; It is also fact that they heavily sponsored hh in the 2016 campaigns. This SADC opposition group is nothing but a front for them. And the same opposition in this group, none are even close to taking power in their respective countries: Tsvangirai, after that unity government with Mugabe was rejected by his own people, the DA is a Cape based party that has failed to grow into the Zulu mainland and Eastern Cape-they are even getting abandoned by their coalition partners (EFF and others) in key municipalities-ANC is still in charge in RSA!! 2020 is just on point!!!
Oh please 2020vision, l know your type; forever twisting facts just to discredit HH at every given opportunity. You make it sound like the current mine-owners are angels who we should protect from HH and Anglo, you are wrong my brother, you are just driven by hate/fear of HH. If Zambia was benefiting so much from the current mining deals as you claim, why are we at the door steps of the IMF with a begging bowl for $1.5b when one of the mines currently owes ZCCM-IH $1.4b which the latter even sued for but you guys have intervened on behalf of the mines? What l don’t understand is why you are so bent on discrediting Anglo who are not here rather than questioning the motives and business ethics of the current mine owners. You know that Zambians don’t read and are generally ill-informed, so…
And who was recently invited by dictators Museveni and Paul Kagame?
Interesting thinking !!
So you have Anglo America group on one side and dictators on the other side?
When two elephants are fighting, its the grass that suffers most!
Not only did he visit the two, he was equally visited by another dictator, Eyadema of togo
Jonathan
I hope he will not just receive encouragement but also correction and advice from his peers such as Malema and Maimane.
It will not help if they will encourage him in everything, including clear wrongs.
Of course if he is encouraged to do whatever he wants he will feel loved, but those who truly love you will not always make you feel loved.
Wisdom goes beyond getting excited by those who make you feel loved but examining the value they add to your life.
Advice I always enjoy your sound advice. Let those with ears hear.
But the Supreme Leader HH of the UPND is not a democrat because he does not allow divergent views from his party that he treats like a cult with no conference to elect leaders since he was installed by a proclamation by Mr Ackson Sejani…Anyone who sides with the Boers will never be given a chance to rule in Zambia and South Africa and that’s a fact…we will see if the minority white Supremist party of South Africa will vote in Zambia…
Paranoid Fo ol.
Kambwili tried to think of PF presidential ambitions his life was threatened in front of lungu and he was sacked ???
Ba Spaka is your lungu democratic. your lungu is a scared little man with very low self esteem who can’t allow anyone in the party to have presidential ambitions. see what happened to kambwili.
Sorry, i meant to say Ba Zakeyo not spaka.
Ba kaputo . . .Zakeyo is right . Spaka like ito.le is the right misfit. This Spaka chap, low life HH worshiping tonga zombie, I feel like puking!
@Spaka: The PF convention happened in November 2014. If Kambwili wanted to be president, why didn’t he announce his ambitions then?? The collective PF consensus unanimously endorsed ECL and that was that. Even the American political parties (Democrats and Republicans), sit once every 4 or 5 years to agree on a presidential candidate, true?? I haven’t seen anyone standing up to challenge Trump while he is in office like the stone age politics Kambwili is practicing. Your donkey politics is not good for our country, let’s be civil, please!!
Voting for HH, is voting John Voster party of those who called Africans, second class citizens.
Maimane is not a leader but a puppet of those who control the resources of SA, that is AAC.
We are better off without SAC, considering the way they treated us when we were in need.
S.A. is better off without Maimane just as ZED is better off without Ichilema.
Who wants Ichilema anyway?
Another Paranoid Fo ol.
You re big fool those who voted for him the majority of normal Zambian not a quack like you who doesnt think ,hear or see
All this is happening because president Lungu allowed himself to be deceived politically and now he has given political powers to his opponent HH.
Its very difficult now to control HH and I can tell you, PF might go out of power come 2021.
Zuma is a true politician not Lungu but Mugabe is a genius. Lungu has lost political powers and he is going to pay for his political mistake by going out of state house.
GBM is the one organizing this celebration in the name of the DA.
There is happiness in thinking!
…you mean GBM who failed to win back his seat in his village????
go celebrate with fellow perpetual losers and puppets of the whites like maimane…
@rizzo. I have devastating news for you. Your clueless PF are the perpetual losers and puppets of the whites and winning flawed elections will not change that. The Zambian economy is still in the hands of the same whites you are rallying against and your clueless leader is just flying around the country commissioning malls and you are so happy thinking its development. Nonsense please!
This is honestly becoming so painful. We have wrong political advisors for state house. They have no strategy. The Party leadership is also dead. My Party has lost so much steam like a punctured boiler. Why do we seem to be so comfortable? The silence is so deafening and I am worried my leaders think 2021 is too far. Remember we lost a lot of votes in our strongholds and I do not see any drive towards recapturing that vote. Someone tell me what is going on.
Someone in PF said “We don’t talk when we are eating”.
@Ken,
actually, your leaders think 2021 is tomorrow and they are busy strategizing how to win 2021 and forgetting to solve matters that impact your extended family back home.
They will be duped to vote for the same people who are not performing.
This is exactly my comment that HH is getting bigger in Zambia.
@Ken …your party needs people like you who can face reality.
“Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are “
Just wondering why UPND supporters seem to be celebrating this collaboration with DA & Malema like it was victory to plot 1? Is there something I’m missing because so far as I can see those foreign entities are not voters in Zambian? Missed call indeed!
UPND and DA and all civil democratic groupings including us here in UK are celebrating the release of HH from an illegal incarceration by the PF regime. This cerebration was denied in Zambia by the PF regime even to hold church thanks giving was denied by PF regime save Zambians out cry over it. Never mind about who votes but its freedom, liberty and free expression of our soul and mind that is at the core of this cerebration.
Elections in Zambia are not won thru the Ballot Box. Those with state power use it to rig the Elections and stay in Power. If ECZ,COURTS and ZPS remain under the Control of Jonathan Lungu then there is nothing to stop him from rigging the 2021 Elections. Lungu will appoint new Chulus,Isaacs,Zulus, Mumbi Phiris etc to rig again in 2021 and beyond.The issue is how to stop the Presidency from interfering with Electoral and Court processes and the Police and make these institutions independent of the Executive. That is the challenge.
KK lost and he conceded ; RB lost and he conceded they were both in power. HH refused to concede even before the elections were held. Does your argument hold water?
@ UMWINA NKANA
I’m also wondering. For sure under 5 mentality. UPND forgets the fact that its us Zambians who vote and not DA or whatever name you call them…..kikikikikikiki
PEOPLE WHO PROSTITUTE WITH IMPERIALISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS WILL NEVER HAVE SUPPORT OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
“The majority of black South Africans, including the ‘clever blacks’/educated blacks, can hardly identify with the DA. They are all led by a white person and therefore represent a very dark past that we as the majority black people haven’t forgotten about and still suffer from. DA is a ‘white party’ and represents white people’s interests and not necessarily the black Africans’ interests that directly affect them”.
That was mugabes ralling cry….look at Zimbabwe today , total mess
AND YOU THING IMPERIALISTS WILL COME HERE TO PLAY MUSIC FOR YOU TO DANCE…….YOU WILL PAY MORE THROUGH YOUR NOSTRILS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE MESS YOU REFERRING TO IN ZIMBABWE IS THE CREATION OF THE SAME IMPERIALISTS SOME BLIND AFRICAN LEADERS DEVOID OF NATIONALISTIC AND PAN-AFRICANISM ARE WINING AND DRINKING WITH TODAY…Taniyandi kusondoka!!!!!!!!!
The party of former racists (DA) is trying to play clean when it is the same goons who ill-treated Mandela and many South Africans during apartheid in South Africa. They should be thinking of cleaning and apologizing for their barbaric evil which saw many black South Africans killed than tread in our affairs. They have used the poor Black South African, Mmusi Maimane as their Leader so that outsiders can think they are innocent.
Why should they interfere in our affairs when it is them who are known world over to be the racists and oppressors of other races, Zambia is a free and peaceful nation which doesn’t want to fall into footsteps of evil people like the DA Boers. HH is just blinded by these people knowing that he is desperate to rule they are taking advantage of him. It is high…
Mushota also with her mental ERECTIONS, she is the only one seemingly not aware that one HH od New Kasama is already in Cape own sampling exortic wines on the Stellenbosch vineyard tour while the likes of Mushota is busy wonking herself!
Surely,who cares?South Africans will never vote in Zambia just like Zambians shall never vote in SA.
Plus DA is nothing in SA unless the ruling ANC!!this is how HH loses elections.His release from mukobeko meant nothing to many people in 6.5 provinces as nobody celebrated.yes as usual many celebrated in 3.5 provinces!!!
Being invited in SA or anywhere wont add any votes to HH in 2021.HH’s popularity should start growing here in Zambia,especially in 6.5 provinces where his upnd has been losing since 2006!!!
SO NOTHING TO CELEBRATE ABOUT HERE BA UPND!!
I hope he can find time to visit his ailing running mate who first had an issue with his knee on account of weight and now he has an undisclosed illness so please visit him. Allow him to visit as many countries as he is invited to, they don’t vote! I only hope he will not wash dirty linen in public. A smart leader will try and escalate important national issues not personal pocket agendas. But hey he is Adolf he says what pleases him…we are still waiting for the democratic convention for UpNd ..2021 zed forward.
Not at all My President HH is better than that wait and here what he is going to say#forward.no dirty linen cause there is nothing unless you know some.
Hh for life, wish you all the best u are a man of intelligent, go hh go, jealous people never win.
HH for life losing record!
Its good to celebrate especially when you know deep down your heart that you dont deserve the freedom that was given to you at a silver platter.
I am sure we shall have a lot of voters from SA next elections to give him another losing victory. Why celebrate in a foreign country – anarchists!
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What a great shame that Icilema’s UPND has become a branch, a surrogate, a fratenity of the Afrikaans DA! SAD!
Whether you like it or not, HH is now a major factor out there! Let’s see how Kanitundila and Jonathan will be able to rigg again knowing how closely the next pools shall be observed. Besides, the chap has zero ability, what is the need of being president if only for that being a means and end on to itself? The guy himself has self confessed he has zero vision, the state is clearly on auto pilot as he has been gallicating aimlessly since being sawn into office? One honestly wonders why Levy had to die not fools like Kanitundila and Jonathan, useless souls whose actions are most injurious to the economic and political fabric of this country.
I am perplexed by UPND bloggers’ excitement about celebrating HH’s release in South Africa. Jut what is the big deal?
Conor Gaffey, Newsweek 06/13/17
South Africa, Africa’s most industrialized state was for centuries ruled by a mixture of British and Dutch overlords, who oppressed the black African majority. Even after it gained independence in the early 20th century, the after-effects of colonialism spilled over into the policy of white minority rule—known as apartheid—which existed from 1948 until the election of Nelson Mandela, the country’s first black president, in 1994.
So when Helen Zille, the white former leader of South Africa’s main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA), tweeted in March that colonialism was not entirely bad, she should have known she was playing with fire.
@23 Facts, exactly my thoughts. But just let the little ones have something to be happy about. As you know just a little ice cream or milk shake will make any underfive feel on top of the world.
He is the leader that Zambia is waiting for. Thanks DA & team
Here is the irony of hh’s release:
1. The upnd and some elitist pastors hold a thanksgiving prayer and now he is invited by the DA, a party with a strong white following centered in white dominated Cape Town. The upnd supporters both local, in diaspora and abroad are in jubilant spirit as their leader is released from prison.
2. Meanwhile, the ruling PF has concentrated on giving loans to those affected by the fires at City Market and the government is working tirelessly to repair their trading area. The government recently sponsored a Luapula Expo to promote investment in the neglected province. Chipata was recently declared a city, meaning government will soon embark on a infrastructure development plan to upgrade the town, much to the delight of its residents. HH HASN’T EVEN TAKEN…
…TIME TO VISIT THE CITY MARKET VICTIMS.
WHO IS LIKELY TO RECEIVE MORE VOTES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN??? Remember economically, Kwacha has stabilised, copper hit $6,800 this week, mealie meal is K58, loadshedding is gone, fuel is coming down, interest rates are soon to follow as the BOZ has lowered the monetary policy rate??
As for UPNDonkeys, an invitation to Cape Town to meet Maimane surely should make underfive as important as the President. Please allow the UPNDonkeys a bit of indulgence.
I am amused that underfive will not address the South African parliament but watch proceedings from the viewing gallery. The UPNDonkeys and their herbivorous twins in DA want us to believe that underfive will attend parliament as a guest of the south african parliament when in actual fact he will be in the viewing gallery just as you and me do when we visit our parliament.
By the way, the Magistrate of Luanshya should take judicial notice of this reporr. On monday the lawyers for underfive tendered to the court sick off notice from Lusaka Trust hospital that underfive was sick off for five days this week. Now this same underfive can undertake a celebration at the Cathedral, and immediately undertake a packed trip to RSA totalling 2,000km from Lusaka to Johannesburg and a further 2, 000km to Cape Town. These events are stressful and cannot be undertaken by someone on a sick off note. In short underfive lied to Court. Isn’t there a charge for this in our statutes? I mean not treason but something like perjury?
Valid point, Terrible!! Spot on.
Whoever knows the Luanshya Magistrate must immediately inform him of HH’s lies and duplicity.
Sorry, I am not waiting for hh’s leadership.
What worries me most is that the people voted for upnd doesn’t know anything about hh and his evil ambitions for our mother Zambia. I was reading the Wikipedia article about Anglo America as an organization and how it operates,I was shocked to learn that the organization had an upper hands in Congo civil war because of their appetite for gold. Anglo America is one of many popular organizations that ruthless has brought war and miseries around the world and organizations exploited our privatization value of our mineral resources and using madzoka and many more. It was on that era when hh joined this evil family of Anglo America pushed by madzoka.hh is not a person to be entrusted with leadership let him rot in opposition till his tire time.
The majority voters who voted ECL into office are just laughing at the frustrated UPND supporters who are busy building castles in the air, they think they will win 2021 elections. Instead of HH concentrating on National issues that require debating with the ruling PF, he is busy mingling with the White racists of South Africa, DA party, if he had gone to attend the other party’s in South Africa people would have said it is fruitful, not the party which is known to have goons from the apartheid era, they are busy consoling themselves now that SA is no longer under their rule They are just opportunists who want to pounce back and re-start oppressing our fellow black South Africans. But as long as they have the minority support just like our brother HH they will never be at the helm of…
Look at the PF rats above having heart attacks……
Electricity tarriffs have gone up by 25% with effect from tomorrow!!!! i cannot afford going back to koloboy and charcoal.
…try gas for heating and cooking; Then buy an inverter and/or solar for lighting and entertainment (at the height of loadshedding, inverters cost as much as K5,000 for a 1,500KVA but has since eased to K1,800). There’s is always an alternative.
CHINVINDINVINDI you say HH is definitely getting bigger and BIGGER in Zambia. Remember Wynter said that being imprisoned won’t make him president. He can be because it not impossible. However, stop giving him hyper hope. Mind you he is just recovering from depression of losing 2016 election. So don’t allow that that to happen again.
May I ask you give advice do a survey in highly populated areas in Zambia where most of the votes come from. Find out if they know that HH has been invited by fellow loser opposition Democratic Alliance (DA). And why go to DA when we have former opposition (losers) in Zambia, ADD, HP and UNIP..
Mr. Maimane said Mr. Hichilema’s United Party for National Development is part of a network of opposition parties in the region, organised under the Southern African Partnership for Democratic Change, of which Mr. Maimane is the chairperson. The network is meant to give opposition parties a voice in the region, and it was also used in this instance to effect pressure on governing parties to respect human rights. So if Hichilema’wins in 2021 that means friendship or membership will end. So HH should work hard to remain the major opposition party in Zambia or else he will lose recognition by Maimane in 2021. May change strategy start association with winners PF
That’s how short they are on the brains. No need to say more.
Frederik Willem de Klerk of NP the last white president and first vice president to Mandela. Who was the first to be invited by Chiluba to open Agriculture and Commercial Show if not Trade Fair. He was better opposition leader than Maimane of DA party. No wonder he received the NOBLE PRIZE for releasing Mandela from prison. Edgar Lungu should also be given NOBLE PRIZE for releasing HH.
It looks like a lot of people from this party NP have joined DA well done Maimane keep it up in opposition in a network of opposition parties in the region.
This is political suicide DA they only want to serve their own interests no we the people will not bow down to their greed come 2021 ECL chabe.
To celebrate his release? Why in RSA and not at the new Kasama Castle?
Meeting the curtel, plotting evil! In America a politician who sells his country is never looked at the same!
Meeting the white supremacists funders.
I totally agree with you general kanene,some people are still lagging behind in thinking.honestly speaking who told them that when you marry a white Lady you become superior. Ba mushota you are just exposing your inferiority complex not us.so leave our President hh along.
No wonder Frederick chiluba used to mock us that Zambians are docile and he could lead this nation for another 20yrs.the Bible says have given you the eyes but you can’t see,have given you ears but you can’t hear.so you can’t see that our land is being taken slowly by Chinese in the name investment? You guys wake up pls
Came here we celebrate your release, naiwe wa iya
Right now as am talking,here in Kitwe 2class there is a shop running by the Chinese and is being officially opened today and ask me the guest of honour is his worship the mayor. Annd for your information these Chinese are just renting the newly built building. These people are not manufacturing but trading with fake goods.and you call investment no ways.