And Mr Hichilema has instructed UPND Members of Parliament to start impeachment proceedings aganist President Edgar Lungu for allegedly abrogating the republican constitution.
Addressing Journalists in Lusaka, Mr. Hichilema revealed that the PFgovernment through Ministry of Agriculture Permanent Secretary Julius Shawa sold the 304 hectare NRDC land through a swap to AVIC international.
Mr. Hichilema disclosed that the agreement to sale NRDC was entered in a Memorandum of Understanding with AVIC International on May 29th, 2017.
“Julius Shawa, Permanent Secretary signed the sale agreement on behalf of the Zambian government while a representative from AVIC signed in Chinese language. This is how dull and disorganised this government can be. How do you allow the signing of an important document in a language you least understands? What if they turn around and say it’s not us that signed”, he asked.
Mr. Hichilema also regretted what he referred to as the distortion in the contract of sale which he said was irregular.
“When one considers the location where the land being sold is located, it is safe to say, the government gave away land to for free to AVIC international because NRDC is on prime land and very expensive when you covert it into cash. 304 hectares site is worthy millions of dollars probably worth in the region of US$40 million dollars. I am in the property business myself, one acre at the NRDC land is worth around for US$1,000 to US$2,000 dollars and 2,000 acres in Shakumbila village can go for less than US$1,000 dollars,” he said.
Mr Hichilema noted that the Prime land on which NRDC is situated cannot be compared to traditional land in Shibuyunji district where NRDC will be constructed.
He said it was unfortunate, that the PS in the ministry of agriculture decided to lie when the UPND wrote to him demanding the halt to the sell NRDC.
“When we wrote a demand letter, the PS replied that the government is not selling NRDC but the MoU in our possession confirms the sale via a swap to AVIC. For a start, I have directed the Secretary General to write back to Mr. Shawa to explain why he denied the presence of sale agreement when the UPND earlier wrote to him urging him to reverse the sale,” Mr Hichilema said.
He said Article 1.1 of the document says the MoU shall facilitate the construction of a brand new campus for NRDC under an equivalent exchange model which simply means that AVIC will take over NRDC land in an asset to asset swap.
“In other ways, they are trading NRDC with an empty piece of land so that AVIC is given the land at NRDC to construct a Financial Centre. The price is here but they thought we wouldn’t understand the meaning of this.
Meanwhile, Mr Hichilema has issued an instruction to UPND MPs to impeach President Lungu.
“There are members of Parliament here. Here is the instruction, you must commence the impeachment process now and we have a number of constitutional breaches for which you should impeach him,” he said.
He continued, “the man confirmed that anyone who works anywhere can steal from their employer, how can you stop people from stealing when you are busy saying such things. It means him is busy stealing in State House from Zambians who put him there. On another account, by his own mouth, he confirmed that in 2015 and 2016, he was voted out of the office but he refused to go and that he will refuse in 2021. That’s confirmation.”
“Another ground. The law in Article 104 and 105 says that when a presidential petition is submitted, just mere submission, the presidency must transfer from whoever is holding them to the Speaker of the National Assembly and he refused to hand over and he abrogated the constitution, that is another account. The Judicial Complaints Commission in its own ruling indicated that there was no 14 days used in the petition. We will invoke that impeachment process because it is provided for in the constitution,” he said.
He’s just a dull charlatan with nothing to do. The petition failed he’s now evolving into a retarded monkey.
Take this fO0L for circumcision to clean him of his filth.
I hear GBM tried to poison (HH) GBM is about to be fired
The PF govt under Edgar has also sold the public Olympic swimming pool in Rhodespark to Lebanese. Everything in this country is being sold to foreigners
Kudos, the tide in the Southern African countries is changing and changing fast. Six months ago, who would have thought Mugabe and Zuma would be removed from power by today? Lungu is not God. You can insult for what you care … change is coming to Zambia, coming fast and coming now! Atlast, at last… redeem, redeem the beloved country oh Dear Lord we pray! AMEN
HH really wants to be President at all costs..he is trying very hard .Now he sounds more desperate than ever. I think HH should just wait till 2021 and am sure he knows that the people of Zambia will retire him
So PS signed a document in Chinese …you exchange land in Mumbwa for NRDC land which has a Aquifer; surely how shortsighted is that, Leophards Hill Aquifer sold to the Chines now this ; where is Environmental Authorities to step in!!
THE SAME hh REFUSED TO DISCLOSE HOW MUCH MONEY HE MADE DURING THE PRIVATISATION OF VERY MANY STATE ASSETTS
ONLY DIE HARD TRIBALISTS AND REGIONALISTS WILL BE SWAYED BY THIS CHARLATAN
Impeach your cows and ignorant as.s. You Trump kissing Chipuba
Zambians you have shown failure time and time again in managing public assets. Vandalism, theft so let foreigners who value assets buy everything. You go and make a song about it and dance as usual.
How bold these thieves have become! How daring!
The reasons given for the impeachment are very WEAK! How do you use an idiom used by someone as the basis of one being corrupt even when the owners of the language have stated that there’s nothing sinister about that idiom. WHEN WE USE IDIOMS IN OUR TALKING DOES THAT MEAN IT APPLIES TO THE ONE SPEAKING? On the issue of confession of having lost elections, surely is that the best evidence you have? The other interpretation of ‘you voted us out’ would mean that those who were in the opposition voted the president out but it idid not work as they desired.
On the issue of the NRDC land, you have not told us the value the new, Morden fully equipped the new Agriculture UNIVERSITY will be, you have just focused on what will give you political millage.
THERE’S A BETTER WAY TO GET TO PLOT 1
LT I don’t like what you did to website again.
Annoying.
How much did this hh I’d!0t pay for the ex Lima bank house in kabulongs?
So hh should be consulted on how the owner I.e government plans and rezone or sale government land and price. Government can change land use or sale lease etc …. They don’t need hh, asss
The sad part with the PS and working with corrupt entities is that it is himself who will be in the courtroom answering corruption charges…the minister as usual will say they have no influence over such matters.
Really? You are attempting to redefine “charlatan”! What would be the befitting analogy to remove the corruption in PF to your suggestion that the “charlatan” should be circumsized? The surgical procedure required to amputate the corrupt organs in PF would appear to require more skill than that needed to circumcise the charlatan?
Yaba ohooooo yaba ~ The Flingstones would shout!!!! The Ayatollah has just proven yet again that he’s no presidential material at all. None of the things cited are impeachable offenses. And what constitution would this U5 uphold once elected when he actually quotes wrong provisions to where the end justifies the means?
Someone here once said, HH and the UPND is a failed project. I am with them a 100. The more he reveals his strategy for State House, the more it becomes apart why he has so far failed 5 times to get there. He is the real Chibwi with no plan to get to State House.
I can’t wait for 2021 to finally put this experiment to an end once and for all.
Heaven help us all ….
“And Mr Hichilema has instructed UPND Members of Parliament to start impeachment proceedings aganist President Edgar Lungu for allegedly abrogating the republican constitution.”
“Meanwhile, Mr Hichilema has issued an instruction to UPND MPs to impeach President Lungu.”
“He continued, “the man confirmed that anyone who works anywhere can steal from their employer,…”
HH CAN’T GO TO STATE HOUSE ON THE HOPE OF IMPEACHMENT.
INSTRUCTED! IS THIS DICTATORSHIP WITHIN THIS UPND CLUB?
“UULYA MWIBALA…” DOES NOT MEAN STEALING. IT MEANS HE/SHE MUST ADEQUATELY BE PAID FROM WHERE HE/SHE WORKS. “…TEKULYA NEMBUTO” MEANS DON’T STILL. OR DON’T TAKE WHATEVER YOU DO NOT DESERVE. THIS IDIOM IS NOT STREET LANGUAGE BUT PROPER BEMBA ADAGE. DO NOT MISTAKE IT TO STREET LINGUA. ECL KNOWS BEMBA…
Look at him shamelessly posting away you BR Mumba JUNIOR so are you happy to sale Prime land to the Chines, no one wants to hear your rhetoric about how Hakainde has lost a dozen elections or whatever hogwash you spew out of your tin …are you happy with selling of land to AVIC ..is this another “win win”? What folly. Do you know what aquifers are?
You mean AVIC has land in Mumbwa it wants to exchange for that ….if govt was really serious they would have used the land in Chongwe they want to give to Russians.
…ECL KNOWS BEMBA AND HE MEANT WHAT I HAVE SAID ABOVE. SO, YOUR IMPEACHMENT STRATEGY IS ABSOLUTELY A NON-STARTER. THE ROAD TO STATE HOUSE IS NEVER THROUGH IMPEACHMENT. IT IS THROUGH A BALLOT BOX, BO HECHE HECHE. AND GENERAL ELECTIONS ARE EVERY FIVE YEARS.
While I agree GRZ needs to be more transparent, but categorising anything as corrupt or that it be cancelled without interrogating cost & benefit is dangerous & worse form of politicking. I remember this style even for Bill of Rights. Zambians were robbed of rare opportunity ever to acquire more power & decrease powers of GRZ & President because of this hopeless approach to politics. It’s more important to say what Zambia is losing or gaining from this or any deal & then speak out. I see modern financial centre in that location & bigger NRDC in farming community benefitting Zambia more than the ego of just comforting ourselves while facility deteriorates & we remain @ standstill. It’s same situation as building world class Royal L’stone & Zambezi hotels 25 yrs ago in place of run down…
Contd….It’s same situation as building world class Royal L’stone & Zambezi hotels 25 yrs ago in place of run down rat infested mosi o tunya hotel. Despite suspicions of shady nature of those deals L’stone now competes with falls town. God Bless Zambia
BA Jay Jay, FIRST WHAT DOES IT MEAN SIGNING? LET US BE SPECIFIC. IS IT ENDORSING OR WHAT? BECAUSE CHITOMBWA IS NOT EVEN CLEARLY SHOWING US THE DOCUMENT SO THAT WE KNOW THE MEANING OF SIGNING. IF IT’S THE REAL SIGNING, IN OTHER WORD ENDORSEMENT THEN THAT MEANS PUTTING YOUR SIGNATURE ON THE DOCUMENT. IF THAT’S THE CASE I DON’T HOW AND EVEN WHY IT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND MAYBE EVEN POSSIBLE FOR ONE TO TRANSLATE HIS SIGNATURE INTO LANGUAGES USING ARABIC ALPHABATE OR VICE VERSA INTO MANDOLIN. EG, A ZAMBIAN GOES TO CHINA AND AT IMMIGRATION THEY QUESTION HIM WHY HE HASN’T TRANSLATED HIS SIGNATURE INTO MANDOLIN ALPHABATE. PLEASE, TELL US MORE.
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HH, IMPEACHMENT YOUR CRACKED FOOT. IT’S THE BALLOT NOT THROUGH UNORTHODOX MEANS. IT SEEMS YOUR THICK HEAD CAN’T JUST GET IT. THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS IS EXTREMELY WORRYING.
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Are sure there are no better ways to handle your allegation? We the elite put that ECL to plot 1 and it will take us to remove him from there at the convenient time which is at the 2021 polls, the orthodox way. We will decide who we replace him with if need be. I doubt if you will be so lucky. No wonder Levy and Michael never lasted. YOUR insatiable desire for an early occupation of plot 1 is worrying. These illicit bitter merchant of bad luck, sivintu.
Bakulonga nafuti. But don’t worry HH, well get our country back soon from these koswes
Lungu is the new RB he’s a koswe. He’ll steal the whole country leaving just imbuto, while the PF cadres are singing dununa reverse. Wake up Zambians you have a thief for a President. He stole from a client now he has been left in charge of the spoils. A MONKEY LOOKING AFTER THE BANANA PLANTATIONS. UKO!
Peter – don’t be gullible as that dull little girl Mulenga Kampamba… surely how do you think ZNBC? One minute Kampamba was denying selling ZNBC the next minute she was announcing that they have awarded 60% shares for a loan. You are lucky you have even got an MOU!!
Ka Jay Jay … your small dimwit brain really surprises me, boyi. Let’s do a small comparative analysis and then we will move into some cost verses benefits analysis and end with the best use policy. Then we will close with the opportunity cost.
1. Comparative Analysis ~ Let’s start with what NRDC is total. It’s nothing but a dilapidated agriculture college with limited enrollment with no room for expansion due to limited space.
AVIC comes along and says, dance with me. I will build you state-of-art agricultural university with 10 times your current enrollment, bigger and more modern facilities that will be the epitome of agriculture science and research in Africa.
The new university will boost the economy through product research, create more employment, increase university…
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The new university will boost the economy through product research, create more employment, increase university enrollments for school levers, etc.
In exchange, you give me your limited space at NRDC and over there I will build a new state-of-art Financial District the likes of the ones you see in San Francisco, Panama City, Hong Kong and Singapore.
The Financial District will be the envy of Africa because it will spur and boost more transient Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), increasingly making the local currency stronger due to more influx of foreign exchange reserves not to mention the facelift from the current dilapidated NDRC
Badala … I know you have such a low IQ but for a second just dance with me and my high IQ will rub off on you for a second. Compare…
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Compare the analysis above and intellectually honestly tell me this is NOT a win-win scenario.
Your dimwit HH cries foul and calls for impeachment over such great ventures just because he is politically motivated and underestimates the smarts of the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise’s ability to think things through independently. What kind of f000000lishness is that?
2. Cost – Benefit Analysis: Hakalusa Hagain (HH) here is giving us an estimated cost of that land being $40MM.
Assuming that’s true since he qualifies his statement by giving himself as an authority in the real estate business, then what are the demolition costs to prepare that land for a new Financial District?
Let’s say for instance that cost is $10MM then AVIC is already in red because a…
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Let’s say for instance that cost is $10MM then AVIC is already in red because a land swap means no monetary exchange takes place but by the time demolition starts their out -of-pocket expenses begin.
If the project stalled, they would already declare a $10MM loss … and let’s say at the very minimum that initial cost to build the Financial District is $400MM, that’s their cost too.
Then AVIC turns around and builds a new Agricultural University at the proposed site for another say $300MM over the next 3 years.
It means that, the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise just accrued close to $800MM (gain) new assets for exchanging land worth $40MM. That’s smart business!!!
Your leverage ratio is 1:20 meaning for every one dollar you gave away you gained twenty…
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Your leverage ratio is 1:20 meaning for every one dollar you gave away you gained twenty more without doing anything but just sign the MoU. This is blue sky stuff … especially that your marginal costs are zero and yet your marginal benefits are through the wazoo.
But Hakalusa Hagain (HH) is behaving like his confidentially leaked MoU is the latest discovery, his new short cut to Pluto having triangulated a new trigonometry route using sophisticated calculus.
In three years once these two projects are completed and the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise see for themselves what the cost of letting go NRDC to benefit from a new Financial District and on top of that acquisition of a totally new state-of-art Agricultural University, will think Hakalusa Hagain was…
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… will think Hakalusa Hagain was nothing but a political troll.
But hey … who am I? You Ka Jay Jay and Ayatollah have the right to politick even if you are both STUP1TTIE ID1OTS with your analysis of matters at hand in your quest for State House even calling for impeachment … Heaven help us all!!!
3. Best Use Policy – Eminent Domain Rules: In the United States of American, the best land use policy is enshrined in statutory laws of every state. This has been upheld by the US Supreme Court several times before.
In short any local and/or state government in America can reposes land if it deems that a new development project will produce more tax revenue to that local and/or state government than the current tax benefits.
Given the above, how much tax…
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Given the above, how much tax revenues do you think are going to accrue from both projects towards GRZ??? For starters, the new Financial District will not be a tax free zone meaning new property taxes will be due, companies will employ people there, income taxes will accrue to GRZ from those new employees who will outnumber the current lecturers at NRDC, shops around will be collecting VAT and ZRA will have increased revenues …
For the new Agricultural University, everything there will be on the margin, meaning total increase from additional economic activities and the list is endless.
But you (Ka Jay Jay) and Hakalusa Hagain (HH aka Ayatollah) want us to believe your cretinous diatribe while totally displaying your dysfunctional brain capacities all the while…
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… displaying your dysfunctional brain capacities all the while thinking you are gaining political mileage … Heaven help us all!!!
4. Opportunity Cost: I left this one for last because at least one reason I was initially excited about HH’s entry into politics way back after we lost the gallant Anderson Mazoka was I actually thought uhummm, this guy has an MBA, he could be a colleague and smart enough to stir the Zambian Enterprise at the very least using his brain.
How wrong I was … hey!!! It’s okay to make a mistake once a year, I have since forgiven myself over that. Now back to “Opportunity Cost”. This is an economic concept I expect an MBA Economist to have full grasp of.
Being an Investment Bank and Accountant, this is a very important analytical basis…
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Being an Investment Bank and Accountant, this is a very important analytical basis for optimal thinking and is fundamental not because it’s subjective but because it requires proper understanding of all the facts.
Now, I can forgive Ayatollah because of late, he does not seem to fully understand all the facts before he opens his mouth, his quest of State House has blinded his logical operators.
The opportunity cost here is the loss of something we can’t yet quantify or the cost of doing nothing. The status quo is not a smart move here … leaving NRDC as is does not make sense when the alternative gives us more potential benefits than just sitting down just because AVIC is Chinese.
Somehow, I get the feeling that Hakalusa Hagain is impromptu because accrued…
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Somehow, I get the feeling that Hakalusa Hagain is impromptu because accrued benefits are passing him by while others get the benefits of being there at prime time thus the constant hallucinations.
So, in conclusion Bwana Dimwit (aka Ka Jay Jay) that’s why we tell you your Ayatollah is losing Hagain because the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise are able to see through his crap.
Good luck with your impeachment instructions, Ayatollah Style … having lost 5 times, this cretin and his worshipers have also lost their minds.
Heaven help us all.
@ B R Mumba, Sr
Do you realize the amount of crap you are producing has clogged sewerage pipes of your sh!thole brain?
Whoever new President that’ll take over from Lungu in 2021 will have to make it a priority to make Lungu account for all the wealth he has amassed from the time he took office in 2015. Lungu and his ministers will have to be audited. Whoever fails to account for the wealth acquired while in office, will forfeit their loot to the State, with possible prison time. The new president will also have to reverse these illegal sales going on in the country. So, to all the foreigners buying Zambian property illegally, the property that belong to the Zambian people, please know that you will lose your money when a new president comes into office in 2021. We the Zambian people will not let a few greedy individuals sell our country from under our feet. We want our country back!
HH is it a Sale? Or MOU, because the 2 can be very different. Nevertheless, selling land to Foreigners is wrong. The president should be patriotic and have the love for his country. Such selfish decisions will have serious consequences for our people. MPs should push a motion to change the Land reform act. Let no Foreigner be given a right to buy land.
HH can u also show us the documents u signed for the sell of the mines and some government hotels in Livingston of which some u sold to yourself please? We need to know who is a better thief and a lesser evil please?
Iwe chi dull DJ7 which government office did HH occupy for him to sell himself mines and hotels? Let debate on facts
Yes, lets debate facts. Just because HH(5 times loser, and false commandeerer of election materials) brandishes a paper should not make us excited. Ba LT where is Shawa’s and the purported Chinese right of reply. Did you speak to them.
Think iwe chimbwi. How can you talk about swapping when nrdc and sibuyunji land all belong to Zambia? China must rethink their involvement in Zambia cos we are soon headed to being enemies. TWA lousyy utu tu Bantu.
GOOD QUESTION DJ7. HH THINKS ZAMBIANS ARE VERY DULL THAT THEY HAVE FORGOTEN HOW HE EMBEZZLED FROM THE PUBLIC AND HID SOME OF HIS MONEY IN OFF-SHORE ACCOUNTS. WE ARE NOT FORGETTING. WE DON’T FORGET THE UPND QUOTA POLICY, WE DON’T FORGET THE TONGA-ONLY UPND POLICY ON WHICH TICKET YOU ASSUMED PRESIDENCE IN YOUR TRIBAL PARTY, WE WILL NOT FORGET OTHER THINGS EITHER.
THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN AGRICULTURAL UNIVERSITY IS A BOUNDLESS BENEFIT TO ZAMBIA ESPECIALLY THAT AGRICULTURE IS ONE OF THE MOST NEEDED ECONOMIC SECTORS OF ZAMBIA AND STUDENTS WILL BE EXPOSED TO STATE-OF-THE-ART LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. ANY ONE AGAINST THIS IS JUST A DUNDERHEAD.
SETTING UP OF A FINANCIAL DISTRICT IN CHELSTONE IS ONE FANTASTIC IDEA WHICH AGREES WITH THE MODERNISED KKIA AND THIS WILL CREATE ZAMBIA AS FINANCIAL HUB FOR THE SOUTHERN PART OF AFRICA. NO ZAMBIAN WAS EVER GOING TO THINK OF THIS IDEA. OUR FRIENDS PLAN AHEAD IN RELATION WITH WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING DEVELOPED OR PLANNED FOR. IN FACT THIS FINANCIAL DISTRICT WILL ATTRACT A LOT OF BANKS AND OTHER CORPORATE ENTITIES IN LUSAKA AND HENCE MORE JOBS FOR OUR YOUTH. BLAME WITH SENSE, YOU GUYS.
WHAT IS MOSTLY BOTHERING THE UK IN THE CONTEXT OF BREXIT IS THE PROSPECT OF LOSING IT’S HUB STATUS IN FINANCE, BUSINESS, TOURISM, INDUSTRY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. PRACTICALLY, ALL WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT MOST OF THE BANKS RELOCATE TO EUROPE DUE TO CHANGES IN CERTAIN BINDING POLICIES, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES (BOTH EUROPEAN ANDuk) MIGRATE TO EUROPE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE UNRESTRICTED ACCESS TO EUROPEAN MARKETS. IN SIMPLE TERMS THAT MEANS LEAVING A FINANCIAL BLACK-HOLE, UNEMPLOYMENT DUE TO MIGRATED JOBS, LIMITED MARKETS FOR UK DUE TO EUROPEAN POLICY RESTRICTIONS. ON A WORST CASE SCENERIO, UK WOULD EASILY TURN INTO A SERIOUS THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. NOW, WITHE NRDC DEAL, THE OPPOSITE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO ZAMBIA. WHY WOULD ANY ONE OBJECT TO THAT? THINK BEFORE YOU MARKET YOUR ABSOLUTE…
…THINK BEFORE YOU MARKET YOUR ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE. BECAUSE, WITH THE NRDC DEAL ZAMBIA IS ABOUT TO BECOME A FINACIAL HUB IN TANDEM WITH ZAMBIA AGAIN BECOMING A TRANSPORT HUB. WITH ALL THESE, COME WITH SERIOUS INTERNATIONAL EXPOSURE AND INTEREST IN DOING BUSINESS WITH ZAMBIA. FOR ME THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE SOUTHERN REGION THAT WOULD SCARE SOUTH AFRICA IS ZAMBIA AND NOT THE MORE WELL STRUCTURED AND FAR MORE DEVELOPED ZIMBABWE. ASK ANY ECONOMIST AND INDUSTRIALIST ABOUT THE THINGS I HAVE SAID. SO, CHINA HAS JUST SERIOUSLY, THOUGHT AND EXTRAPOLATED BEYOND OUR ESPECIALLY THE TWO NEW INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS (KKIA AND COPPERBELT INTL AIRPORTS), KAZUNGULA BRIDGE, FUTURE TOURISM, MFEZs, LANDLINKEDNESS, AGRICULTURE AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THE GRZ IS PUTTING IN PLACE. WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, OUR…
…WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, OUR ECONOMISTS (INCLUDING HH) CAN NOT SEE AND DO. WHAT A SHAME! THIS IS NOT SURPRISING. CHINA IS THE DESIGNER AND CONSTRUCTOR OF KKIA AND CB INT’L AIRPORTS. ECONOMISTS OF DEVELOPED COUNTRIES OR LET’S SAY ENLIGHTENED (ABASHIBUKA) COUNTRIES SEE THINGS IN BROADER PESPECTIVES WITH THEIR INTEGRATED GOVERNANCE SYSTEMS. JUST CONSTRUCTING THE 2 AIRPORTS AND ENDING THERE ISN’T CHINA’S THINKING. THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD VALUE TO THEIR PAY-CHECK OF THE TWO AIRPORTS AND MAKE MORE MONEY WHILE ZAMBIA ALSO BENEFITS. SO, THEY HAVE DECIDED TO CREATE A BUSINESS HUB JUST IN THE CORRIDORS OF THE KKIA. IT IS ABSOLUTELY BENEFICIAL TO BOTH SIDES- ZAMBIA AND CHINA. AND MORE TO ZAMBIA IF YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THIS.
Yes GRZ is corrupt but show us credible sources of those documents HH coz your story doesn’t add up.Those 304 acres x $2000 per acre amounts to $608k and not the $40m that you’re exaggerating .
@Ba Enka surely that’s only for the land! What is the cost of the current buildings, equipment and even goodwill? To relocate one would also take into consideration state of roads where you are moving, time of construction etc. However, this is not a case for impeachment HH. Please let the president serve out his term.
@Enka
I like your analysis. HH is a very dull chap. Infact, he is just revealing to the whole country how he stole the Zambian money when he mismanaged the Privatisation of the mines and other industries on the Copperbelt. According to him, HH, the mines where worth Billion of Dollars but instead, he officially under valued them and declared that value to the then Government and the difference he pocketed. Thats basically what HH is saying he did during the Privatisation.
Bashimaini, there you are! The once vibrant Copperbelt were sold for a song, your parents, uncles, families sent to early graves and on the streets by HH greediness and yet you even dare give him a vote. Can you forget it that easily, please remember how the mines once used to be?
Thanks HH, THIS IS ONE THE ASPECTS OF REAL OPPOSITION! BUT WHY DON’T YOU PUT TOGETHER ALL THE MISCHIEF COMMITTED BY LUNGU and his PF INTO A DOSSIER BEFORE TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT?? This rushed approach may just lead to a flop!!
I am surprised NRDC students have been quiet…how I miss the proactive students of yesteryear, not these snapchat generation, just imagine if the brave students of yesteryear had this type of tech at their fingertips.
Whats wrong with us zambians, how can we fall chinese lies that the space is limited for expansion at NRDC, when are we going to start thinking of going up(building skyscrapers), there is a lot of space up. Let avic go build their financial centre in shibuyunji, let them turn one of our bushes into a city.
In China a foreigner can not even buy a pit latrine especially black African foreigner…here we treat these people like god even exchanging land from one area with another. How did it acquire land in Mumbwa in the first place…this is what Kalaba was saying about giving away land just like that to foreigners!!
Most people in Min of Agric and the atudents are happy with this deal!
PF, UPND,MMD, ZADECO ETC -WE SHOULD BE SPEAKING WITH THE SAME VOICE ON THIS AND OTHER RELATED ISSUES. IT’S NOT FOR THE GOOD OF ZAMBIA BUT GREEDY INDIVIDUALS. THEY SHALL FALL GREATLY!
This president allowed for the ministers to stay in office, illegally get paid, campaign using state resources (the court has ruled that they pay back the monies and we have not been told whether or not they have been approached with the enforcement of the court order!!). This too was an abrogation of the constitution!! The presents he continues to lavish on churches in cash and kind could very well be proceeds of corruption!! It doubtful he makes those presents from his salary. It will help this country to get a credible, honesty and a man of integrity in the office of the president. Impeachment of Edgar Lungu is long overdue.
the problem is HH is also clue less!! there are number of things that can make EL be impeached or even lose an erection or sorry an election, but those listed by HH are not one of them, those are personal benefits not us!!!! talking abt petitions today, pliz talk abt real issues of how u are a solution to what is happening or we will not any difference between u en EL.
Exactly Dr Ngosa.
The in-competencies of the PF are much more, however its whether we have the right people to form government next which is the question. HH and UPND is the same as ECL and PF if not worse. HH’s obsession is plot 1 and nothing else. We dont see an organised party that will do things differently from the current party. They are not in power but are arrogant to the core! There condemnation of PF is because its the Easterners ‘eating’ and not them. In short there is no clear distinction of how UPND will be different to PF as a party in power! And that is very unfortunate for Zambia to have a seemingly popular party as disorganised as the party they keep condemning! Where is FDD… because with UPND, we shall be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
The problem is Hakainde has too many lawyers as his advisers…its like having a Barber as your daily adviser he will make sure that you are offered a service everytime you see him…the man likes to be a busy foooool wasting too much time on useless issues he thinks he is in RSA.
Jay Jay, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS NOT (TOO MANY) LAWYERS. THE LELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS HH HIMSELF. HH JOINED UPND ON A WRONG (TRIBAL) TICKET. HE HAS ALSO TURNED UPND A TRAINING GROUND FOR DICTATORSHIP SUCH THAT HE CAN NOT LET ANYONE TO ALSO BE PARTY PRESIDENT. EVEN AFTER TRYING AND LOSING FOR 5 ELECTIONS.
There is only one thing I can confirm after looking and reading through this article that HH is dull and very frustrated ,is there no difference between a sale and a swap, personally I would support the idea to move nrdc to an area which is more suitable to an agricultural college or school., I know that the land is prime and HH being in the estate business was hoping that he will have a chance to own it if he was in power him self, sorry it’s gone bwana forget.
Sad events unfolding in our country.
So no one is asking about the validity of documents, instead you are doing strawman attacks on HH. It shows how rotten our politics is, how do you ever expect politicians to take responsibility if all you engage in day in-day out are irrational debates. I’m deeply disappointed in the likes of Mr. Kudos and DJ7 whoever the FACK you are. When the hell are you going to stop throwing national issues over your party agendas?
Lets debate logically. Why not if you have nothing tangible to say and contribute towards nation building you stay quiet.
The problem with people like you is that you believe that HH is the oasis of all knowledge and wisdom to the extant that what ever he says is gospel truth ,what details has given us for you and me to decide as to whether the decision that the government has made is wrong or not, for example if you your self lived in. Lusaka on a 40/60 plot and someone offered to you a 30arces piece of land and also builds a much bigger house for you, in CHISAMBA area ,I think its logical that I would choose to.
You are wasting your time with dull cadres..These people are not critical thinkers or do they sit down to look at the long term remifications of such deals….its like having a debate with the likes of Bowman about fiscal disclipine and heavy govt borrowing…he can just punch you to pulp forgetting that its his daughters he is passing this heavy burden to.
DOKOWE, ARE YOU ABLE TO READ THE CONTENTS OF THE LETTER ON THIS MEDIA, YOURSELF? WHAT ARE YOU OR OTHER PEOPLE GOING TO QUESTION ABOUT? DO YOU SEE HH LETTING JOURNALISTS TAKING THE PHOTO OF IT OR LETTING ONE OF THEM TO AT LEAST READ IT? THAT LETTER MAY BE FORGED OR MAYBE SOMETHING STOLEN BY HIM.
Why does HH want to embarrass himself all the time.
The MoU is a public document and has been public since it was signed.Its contents are in the public domain as well.
Your judgment HH is premature and does not lead to an impeachable offence.
Even your analysis of the MoU is very poor.
To be fair,we all have not seen the designs for the new NRDC campus though we know the land proposed is about three times more bigger.
You PF chaps have got no shame or remorse. The other day, Sunday Chanda was asking HH to provide evidence, now that he has hit you hard and are left naked, you try another silly attempt to cover up the embarrassment he’s put you in.
YOU really can’t fix stupid in PF, can you?
MOU is not a legal contract.
When I read the stated grounds for impeachment, I feel sorry for Hichilema’s followers. The blind leading the blind. No wonder the petition failed because it was prepared maniacs and lunatics Mwiimbu and Mushipe. Who will prepare the impeachment motion?
This why we need a third party in Parliament….Hakainde and his MPs are too selfish, very glad to accrue allowances yet complain about govt expenditure.
let them build a new college , with a new face!
also begin to offer degree in all the programs! u moved from certificates to diplomas and now its time to offer up to degree level! Evelyn Hone and NRDC shud be upgraded! HH what plans do u have 4 these schools or not yet, u re still reacting to whatever PF is doing?
I pity the people of Kabwe where he went there and just unlocked the gates of Mulugushi textile promising them they will soon get jobs for the Textile is reopened ..Alas update the plant is a shell of itself.He has now positioned Chanda Kabwe to go round dishing some so called empowerment funds..kikiki Kabwe people wake up from your slumber.
“….. but the MoU in our possession confirms the sale via a swap to AVIC…… ”, Mr Chinena said.
Excuse me, what does MuO stand for? Title deeds!
Our friend’s son and daughter are in China learning the Chinese language before they commence studies in medicine at their university.
Who shall benefit?
Who are the greater beneficiaries of OPRA,s School of Excellence in South Africa?
Can Zambia afford to be sending kids to CHINA?
Do not worry.
Very soon, thanks to new colonial powe, instead of nshima, you will be enjoying fried noodles and rice.
Do you know how to use chopsticks?
That letter is not confidential matter. If it were someone would have been in sht having stolen the same. The deal although not finalized, to me sounds a good one. Whats wrong to develop the rural areas when we are time and again crying that people are flocking to few towns for search of better living and consequently over populating them. Just go ahead and relocate with or without AVIC. What about all other Universities being built, is AVIC the reason? This man does not want others to show that they have BRILLIANT ideas like him. STATE HOUSE , STATE HOUSE, STATE HOUSE. If you as the president in offing can take pride having stolen materials in your possession, then you shall not need the Police, and the Courts.
Does HH understand the difference of what happened in Zim and SA? He seems to think with ECL gone before his time, it will be him in plot 1? Keep putting pressure on PF so that they dont sleep, infact you are late to the party but not too late. PF needs to be held accountable for their actions and especially on the issues close to people’s heart like the many taxes and cost of living in the country. However, forget about ECL leaving before 2021. Furthermore, show us an organised UPND, one which will run the civil service for instance effectively. Currently your supporters seem to just wait for their turn to come and ‘eat’ where PF are eating with no heart for real change of peoples livelihoods.
You do not understand the difference either. Think over these things: KK said “This is not Poland” when he faced Chiluba – we know what happened; Zimbabwe said we can never be like those Zambian thieves… you know they ended up the only country without a currency… Zambia laughed at Tanzanians not getting paid in their Municipalities… we know what ended up happening to Zambia with salary arrears in excess of a year in some cases. Never say never. Everything happens to everyone especially when they live in perpetual denial.
@FDD,
I agree with u, i dont have hope in the current crop of opposition! people dont have party manifestos, no-wander they keep changing the campaign motos such as water melone , paka litente and dununa reverse! NO meaning yet we support and hope they will do what they did not promise! the current one promised dununa reverse en every can see we are in reverse gear, what is HH promising, its hard to tell even jst a lie???
Soon, the whole country will be sold.
Technically the country has already been sold as I don’t see this reckless govt of Lazy Lungu paying any Chine debt hence looking for ways to restructure the debt!!
Impeach a president with a minority in parliament, with a public MOU?? We have no credible opposition in Zambia.
“…The Judicial Complaints Commission in its own ruling…” The JCC is not a court!!! It’s official, this clown is going mental….
Know something called AI artificial intelligence? The document could easily be a fake. Warning to HH if you build your campaign on falsehoods, it will come to haunt you. Mr Sata promised people. ..not me because I knew it was wag washing. .more money in their pockets. Truth is Zambian economy is like a yo-yo and if you’re lucky you can become a president at the time it’s on upswing. So don’t promise what’s beyond your capacity.
HH don’t relent. We who think are with you on this nrdc issue. Let the illiterate goons show their fooooolishness .
China be warned, you have started acting the enemy……..in our land
@Enka
I like your analysis. HH is a very dull chap. Infact, he is just revealing to the whole country how he stole the Zambian money when he mismanaged the Privatisation of the mines and other industries on the Copperbelt. According to him, HH, the mines where worth Billion of Dollars but instead, he officially under valued them and declared that value to the then Government and the difference he pocketed. Thats basically what HH is saying he did during the Privatisation.
Bashimaini, there you are! The once vibrant Copperbelt were sold for a song, your parents, uncles, families sent to early graves and on the streets by HH greediness and yet you even dare give him a vote. Can you forget it that easily, please remember how the mines once used to be?
Bashimaini, there you are! The once vibrant Copperbelt were sold for a song, your parents, uncles, families sent to early graves and on the streets by HH greediness and yet you even dare give him a vote. Can you forget it that easily, please remember how the mines once used to be?
Malinso, if you seriously think privatization was a wrong option for the faltering economy, why don’t you ask your Lungu to re nationalize the mines just as the way KK did.
MALINSO, IS NOT SAYING PRIVATISATION IS OR WAS A WRONG THING. HE IS TELLING US THAT HH PERSONALLY BENEFITED FROM PRIVATISATION BY ABNORMALLY UNDER-VALUING THE MINES AND OTHER PUBLIC PROPERTIES AND HE HIMSELF BOUGHT SOME OF THE ABNORMALLY UNDER-VALUED BUSINESS FROM THE MONEY HE WAS PAID FOR UNDER-VALUING BY THOSE FOREIGNERS WHO BOUGHT PUBLIC PUBLIC PROPERTIES. MOST OF DUBIOUS MONEY HH MADE IN SUCH A WAY WAS EXTERNALISED TO OFF-SHORE BANKS.
Mr HH this term of office is gone mate…forget protests, forget persecution, forget foul play in last elections, forget trying to get lungu impeached, forget everything good sir. do your talking in Parliament and concentrate on showing the people of Zambia why they should vote for you at the next election. times awasting good sir..soon it will be election time and your constituency and strongholds will have nothing of note to show , except absconding from parliament, forget chasing lungu while he is in office. by the way come and have a sit in a developed country Parliamentary session here and see how the opposition party kick the ruling party in the knees until they jump into action..your strategy is not going to work
The said documents was put in the House so no longer a classified as Parliament docs are public docs.
The said document was put in the House so no longer a classified as Parliament docs are public docs.
HE KNOWS THE VALUE OF OUR NATIONAL ASSETS… WHEN HE WAS BUSY STRIPPING OF LIMA BANK AND OUR MINES LIKE AN EXCITED MONKEY IN A BANANA PLANTATION HE NEVER KNEW THE VALUE……
I want see the receipts for our mines that were sold at a song. HH and Chiluba, we shall never forget, your hands are dirty too.
Even you sold mines.
I didn’t know that hh is such dull. When ECL talked about voting him out he was addressing a opposing area WG
Which didn’t vote for him. Therefore Lungu did not committee any crime but stated the fact that while they voted him out others voted him in and in the end those who voted him out where out numbered by those who voted him out. Mr HH please stole being proud and go back to school to understand the language. I thought it was only the upnd Cadres and the likes of kambwili who interpreted the president speech that way. HH and his supporters must know that is you vote aagint a sitting president it mean you have voted him out dispute the outcome. For example I voted Banda out in 2008 but my vote amounted to nothing because those who voted him in where more. To understand speech iits…
This is just the tip of the iceberg. The country has an estimated $12 billion debt; where did this money go? This will probably be the most corrupt presidency in Zambia’s history.
I HAVE GONE INTO ALL THE HH CRITICS AND I HAVE DICOVERED THAT PF SUPPORTERS ARE NOT HUMAN IN UNDERSTANDING THINGS. HH MENTIONS ” SWAP” IN ( Addressing Journalists in Lusaka, Mr. Hichilema revealed that the PF government through Ministry of Agriculture Permanent Secretary Julius Shawa sold the 304 hectare NRDC land through a swap to AVIC international) BUT UNEDUCATED NINCOMPUMPU UNCIVILIZED SWINES WANT TO HEAR TRANSLATION IN BEMBA ” UKUCHINJANA. NO WONDER YOU FAIL TO UNALYZE BUT FIND YOURSELVES IN BAD DECISIONS. ME CAN NOT BE IN A BOAT FULL OF DRUKARDS AND PADDLED BY A DRUNKARD PERSON.
first of all were is upnd manifesto and who is explaining it and were in zambia if not only this pet politics we ear day in by hh ,bulanda bweka and if you loose 2021 again u cry ati baiba u fool hh and your minions do decent politics take as what u will do instead of this madness impeach who and on what ubushilu
SOSO wake up, Lungu is selling your country and your relatives will be foreigners in their own country. Lungu has abrogated our constitution more times than anyone, he never relinquished power to the speaker, let illegal ministers keep our money. He wants to go for a third term when the document he signed specifically state one cannot be vote in three times. Lungu needs to go, now everything is global as soon as the word goes out impeachment, the world and forces around will start pushing for him to go. Even where he wanders around will start pushing for him to go. Africa right now is in the process of getting rid of self serving leaders who are plundering resources while many go hungry and are suffering.
This an alarmist statement coming from a member of a tribal cabal that thinks only a Tonga President can correct Zambia’s ills. Following your argument that Lungu has “sold” Zambia, which country on earth does not have foreign investors? Since you are talking about “Lungu selling” Zambia, mention one major British company wholly by British people. Good luck in your search. Wake up globalization is taking place.
China iam non partisan but simply helping HH not to play cadre politics. Anyway thanks for waking me up but I should have loved if you read my post before commenting. I maybe HH true friend as most of you are just praising him for nothing. HH should not allow tears or his hatred for lungu to impair his judge. He a potential president of Zambia and as such he should have demanded or downloaded ECL video on voting him out and them make an informed statement. The best way to counter your enemy is to hear him first. That’s way coaches will take time to watch the opposing team before meeting them. Please use your connection to help HH to avoid vanity and deal with real issue and leave such trivialities to the like of mulongoti etal
You need numbers to start such a motion. HH would need to have PF MPS on his side. Looking at the current parliament, it is a huge task. Only the people of Zambia can remove Lungu. So HH move on to plan B.
I am so disappointed with this PF government. All this time I have defending Judas.
YOU CAN VOTE ECL OUT OR IN IN 2021 IF HE WILL BE AVAILABLE. THE NUMBERS WILL DETERMIN. DONT WASTE TIME THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF DEMOCRACY. ECL IS AT STATE HOUSE BECAUSE THOSE WHO VOTED HIM IN WHERE MORE THAN THOSE WHO VOTED HIM OUT AMONG THEM THE AUDIENCE IN THE FAMOUS VIDEO CLIP. THE PROBLEM IS THAT LUNGU IS A STRAIGHT TALKER AND SOMETIMES DONT READ THE LEVEL OF UNSERSTANDING OF HIS AUDIANCE INCUDING SOME OPPOSITION.
#Jay Jay, read again I have capitalised the phrase: “Julius Shawa, Permanent Secretary signed the sale agreement on behalf of the Zambian government while a representative from AVIC signed in Chinese language (WHILE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AVIC SIGNED IN CHINESE LANGUAGE)”.
Please show us it says tge documebt was in Chinese. Upndeez and lies and misinformation!
And is it strange to sign in Chinese iwe h.h? Chinese sign in Chinese whether they are in Russia, USA, Britain, France, or Zambia or even at the international space station. How ignorant can you be h.h?!!!!
And what can you h.h with your less than moral character dent that you signed a document, that your signature was forged? Ba h.h muli bapuba sana, every time you open your mouth to the press on Mondays it’s to spew lies disguised as non.sense.
What’s happening to this country is very sad. Any well meaning Zambian with a clean conscious for the future can’t suppot this!. This is very unfortunate.
My Hypothesis: If I have read h.h correctly and if what he says is true, then its a win win deal. AVIC gets NRDC land and builds a financial centre (investment) and builds a new ultra modern NRDC complex (massive investment in our agriculture for our youth).
So what would be your problem h.h? I thought you would tell us that the PS stole money offered by AVIC? And howdo we believe that kr H.H you are not uttering a forged document, desperate as you are with brain damagefrom Mukobeko. Please show us the original, ourjudicial system doesnot accept photocopies please h.h, surely you know tgat,if you don’t consult Jack Mwiimbu.
Ooh I forgot to state the source of h.h’s latest outburst to the extent of senselessness. Its the name of the PS, Julius Shawa! Still doesn’t ring a bell? Shawa is an eastern name! H.h hates the people he called rat eaters with a passion so.much that he lamentably fails to disguise it. That explains also the hatred of President LUNGU, even if he changed his name to Banda or Miti same rats to h.h.
Ooh I forgot to state the source of h.h’s latest out.burst to the extent of sensele.ssness. Its the name of the PS, Julius Shawa! Still doesn’t ring a bell? Shawa is an ea.stern name! H.h hat.es the people he called rat. eaters with a passion so.much that he lamentably fa.ils to disg.uise it. That explains also the hatr.ed of Pres.ident LUNGU, even if he changed his name to Ba.nda or M.iti same rat.s to h.h.
Or Chulu especially Chulu ..kikikikikiki. Zonda mpaka ku manda iwe mtakati.
United Ponio Nio Desparadoes
Show the Nation how Fraudulent enrich yourself through Privatisation and Selling our God Given Mines for a Dollar.
Disgustingly Hypocritically Pathetic !
Now ni NRDC yanyoko iwe Kainde?kekekekekekekeke…..IF THIS IS TRUE,I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PF GOVNT TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS SWAP DEAL BECAUSE IT IS VERY GOOD FOR ZAMBIA!!
AVIC could build state of the art buildings on that NRDC land which will create a lot of jobs and then build a new NRDC out of Lusaka which is a very good idea too.
HH must be ignored because he knows that such good steps could add more votes to PF in 2021,hence opposing a splendid idea.
HH IS A PRIVATIZATION THIEF TOGETHER WITH LATE FTJ CHILUBA,SO HE THINKS THAT EVEN ECL COULD BE LIKE HIM!!Please PF Govnt,ignore this chief tribalist called HH as he will never rule Zambia!!Moreover,how can upnd impeach ECL with 56 bantustan MPs?….kekekekeke..VERY DULL INDEED!!
Before 1991 HH was nothing,to descant him coz of being oblate politician,let the private motion of limitation on the ballot paper be debated in parliament then HH name shall be buried in archives’.
Baby cry!! Elections came to an end please it’s time to do some gardening it’s not good for your health BP kills
He must release the papers in Panama and those involving “Inside trading” in the Privatization scheme before he begins to comment on this. Moles in government from the South land! I never trust anyone who has Three Mansions.
“How much is the company selling at?” We can raise that money! Okay!” And they get the company or get kickbacks from those who bought! You think we don’t know how you got rich? Sill(r)y!
I am glad he will never be president!
Red – the party of fires.
YOU ARE INSULTING HH BECAUSE HE HAS BROUGHT YOU TO AN OPEN THIEVING. WHETHER YOU YOU INSULT OR NOT ALL ZAMBIANS HAVE PROVED THAT YOU ARE ALL KOSWE MUMPOTO- CRIMINALS . LOOK AT HIGH TAXIES YOU HAVE INFRINGED IN ON POOR ZAMBIANS EVEN STEALING FROM A PEASANT FARMER SURE. THE MORE YOU INSULT HH THE MORE YOU ARE EXPOSED AS BAKABWALALA. COME TODAY COME 2021 DAYS ARE NUMBERED.
Hh wenyo!!!!!..
Zambian opposition kuwayawayafye, where is this Heritage Party man? Pantu baletilafye Hichilema ichisushi chaisa ati impeachment, Kambwili chaisa nao ati impeachment. What animal is impeachment?
YOUR PEOPLES COMMENTS JUST SHOIW THE REST OF THE WORLD HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE ! HERE IS ONE DOCUMENT PROVING MALADMINISTRATION IN THE PF LED GOVERNMENT – I CAN BET YOU 100 MILLION THAT IF ONE STARTS LOOKING AT ALL THE TENDERS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED TO ESPECILLAY THE CHINESE THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN TAMPRERED WITH AND THAT PEOPLE IN PF HAVE ILLEGALLY BENEFITTED FROM THEM. THE IMF CAN SEE THE CORRUPTION TAKING PLACE AND DON’T WANT TO GIVE ZAMBIA FURTHER MONEY NOW OUR BELOVED COUNTRY IS BEING SOLD TO THE CHINESE AND ALL YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE CAN DO IS CARRY ON PRAISING LUNGU AND THE PF. WHEN SOMEONE FROM THE OPPOSITION COMES UP WITH PROOF YOU STILL DENY THE WRONGDOINGS. THAT IS THE WAY OF THE ZAMBIANS – IF SOMEONE STEALS YOU LOOK THE OTHER WAY HOPING NO ONE WILL QUESTION YOU ABOUT THE…
i support the impeachment motion if Lungu and his PF will not reverse decisions on their corrupt deals;
hh thinks like a dog no need to follow it
Icilema is indeed a nowhere man. For each new day you con be sure he will spew some sleazy stuff.
Chronic loser!
Privatization schemer!
HH ni ng’ombe, kuti yateka shani abantu! Somebody compose ulwimbo “ng’ombe ilede”! Elo aba Tonga ni ba pompwe, ba pakupa baleba (steal) umwanakashi! Teba kwesha ukupela ichalo! They are very tribal! Go to Southern Water and Sewarage Company Hqs, everybody there is Tonga starting from cleaner to MD, and Tonga is the official language in the company