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Constitutional Amendment Bill will proceed despite petition – Speaker Matibini

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Speaker of the National Assembly Patrick Matibini
Speaker of the National Assembly Patrick Matibini

The Speaker of the National Assembly Dr Patrick Matibini says the House will proceed to table the Constitution Amendment Bill No. 10 of 2019 despite the matter being before the Constitutional Court.

Responding to a letter from Simeza Sangwa and Associates, who asked the House to halt proceedings given that the matter had been petitioned before the Constitutional Court, Clerk of the National Assembly Doris Kapumba stated that the debates would continue on account of the doctrine of exclusive cognizance which provided that the House enjoyed exclusive and unfettered jurisdiction in the conduct of its internal proceedings.

Mrs Kapumba stated that the Speaker had elected to exercise his discretion to allow consideration of Bill 10 by the House.

53 COMMENTS

  1. Gone are the days when we had Speakers who were me of integrity…I remember Speakers in UNIP govt who stood up to the govt.

    • @Jay Jay, this is why it is difficult to legalize weed in Zambia. Who could have stood against KK in UNIP time? Parliament is there to make and amend laws that is why the constitution protects Parliament to do its work with external interference. You financiers Mr Jay Jay could have taken this opportunity to amend things like the Public Order Act which they keep crying about every election. But alas they chose to listen to their mighty ruler king Icilema to stay away from the process. Come 2021 they will be crying Hagain over the Public Order Act and freedom of assembly. UPND is the most useless party ever. Nkombo the forger is the best adviser for the under5 tonga party.

    • Splinter LAZ’s ill maneuvers are of no consequence.
      Let’s rock & roll folks.
      Let Parley deliberate.
      The Country gotta move on.

    • What if the constitutional court rules against it and the bill has been passed? Is Matibini saying we will then see a fight between the legislature and the judiciary?

    • PF the same constitution that you are manipulating to advance agenda and oppress your enemies will be used against you when you leave power. Do not imagine for one minute that you will be in power forever.
      Just a freindly piece of advice

    • Clazy articles of counterproductive trait. This surely is an unprogressive grouping.

      1. UPND vows to block Constitutional Amendment Bill
      2. UPND will not support the constitutional amendment bill-HH
      3. UPND MPs are more resolved and united than ever to defeat the constitutional Amendment bill
      4. Withdraw Constitutional Amendment Bill from Parliament now, demands HH
      5. LAZ to go to court to stop Constitutional Amendment Bill
      6. UPND beats up HRC officer
      7. UPND urges its members to vote no in the referendum

    • As usual foolish PF cadres opt for lazy debate of labeling others who oppose them silly UPND cadres…have you even sad down and read those amendments, their ramifications. Just like I stated in that article about Dora denying using a phone manufacturer to wiretap opponents and you have this small boy @Thorn in the a$$ when if I remember was in support of such pointless bills such as phone registration 5 years.

    • As usual fooooolish PF cadres opt for lazy debate of labeling others who oppose them silly UPND cadres…have you even sad down and read those amendments, their ramifications. Just like I stated in that article about Dora denying using a phone manufacturer to wiretap opponents and you have this small boy @Thorn in the a$$ when if I remember was in support of such pointless bills such as phone registration 5 years.

    • When we say Zambia is being governed by the law of men, this is exactly what we mean. But the iiiddddiots who have no iota of knowledge of how *****ic the raping of the constitution will result it are busy singing praise for the black devils. Simply put, they are stupid iidddiots.

    • JAY JAY

      How old are you? It seems like someone just told you stories about UNIP Days. How can you say Speakers in UNIP Days Stood Up To The Government?

      Let me remind you. Speakers in UNIP Days worshipped KK. If you did not do as KK said, you were gone and demoted embarrassingly during is State House Press Conference. Remember KK was a dictator who wanted to hand over the presidency to his son,

    • Matibini is a PF Cadre and as Speaker of Parliament he is State Captured. Matibini just like ECL has no Respect for Constitutionalism, Rule of Law, Good Governance and Human Rights. Matibini should respect the Supremacy of the Constitution over Parliament. The Amendment Bill No.10 has been Petitioned at Concourt and if he has issues with the LAZ Petetion he should argue his Case in Court. Proceeding with the Bill in Parliament amounts to contempt of Concourt and disregard of our Constitution which is Supreme to Parliament. Matibini is acting on orders from the Presidency. This has future consequences for Matibini. The writing is on the Wall.

    • Clearly this shows Matibini is PF Cadre serving the interests of PF and not the nation, he is there masquerading as speaker of the national assembly, what a joke

    • @ Muzo, why is it that everyone who opposes what the PF is doing belongs to the UPND? Ordinary Zambians are fed up with the PF!! How can you justify the so called amendments to the constitution? Why shud Lungu be allowed to be in power for as long as he wants? A lot of nonsense!!

    • Will this constitution amendment serve the PF well when it loses power through elections or by force?

      This is a very important question Chakolwa Lungu and his f00lish gang of thieves must ask them selves.

      Anything done in a dodge way to disadvantage another group of people does not last long and remains illegal no matter twisted ways used to legalis it.

      Lungu s presidency will not end well for him and his family. Ending definitely it will and very soon.

  2. Do we have learned lawyers in LAZ? Even a grade 9 who is doing civic education can intepret that national assembly is independent. Come on guys stop waisting people’s time and instead offer prudent submissions to the constitutional amendment bill. No. 10. LAZ sure do not be partisan, be professional and stop being a laughing stock to Zambians and the whole world. Do not be corrupt by being funded so simply misinterpret the law.

    • The three government organs interact and it was important to put people’s views into consideration. if there are people against the law why should it be table for discussion in a parliament? whose laws does the parliament make? There will be so many lacuna if laws are made against the wish of a large section of society.

      Brexit is failing to take root because a vote was cast, laws made in parliament without a homework inclusive enough. it cost lots and government appear clueless and hopeless. laws are for people by the people.

    • Ignorance is bliss! The Constitution is Supreme to Parliament, Judiciary and the Presidency. Parliament in making laws must be guided by the Constitution. The Speaker of Parliament should not breach the Constitution in making New Laws. Bill No.10 is illegal and unconstitutional so Matibini should suspend the Bill until Concourt makes a Ruling unless if he wants to be in contempt of Concourt.

  3. The PF government ,Speaker Matibini and PF cadres in the ConCourt / Judiciary already know the outcome of the action taken by LAZ.
    The only hope is for the UPND,NDC and other independent MP’s to block that dangerous bill.
    Eventually the Judiciary and legislature will be exposed as puppets of the Executive.The entire system of government in Zambia is rotten to the core.
    ZAMBIA NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
    SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ZIMBABWE NOW.

    • You’re into group think mentality typical UPND sycophants and zealots and enemies of progress…LAZ joined the UPND Presidential petition but lost …LAZ leadership has made the organisation lose credibility in the eyes of right thinking Zambians who are not into group think mentality…

    • What do u mean NDC? One MP, remember VZ when Fentelo was PF,he was nobody.There is no moral in politics.The are all useless when they support UNDP they will be useful
      What a think

    • PF know that they don’t have a 2/3 Majority in Parliament so they are trying to Manipulate the 2/3 Majority voting System so that the Bill is passed or some NDF Resolutions are passed. PF is trying to rig the 2021 Election thru this Amendment Bill.Lungu and PF know that based on their performance in Power they can’t win the 2021 Election based on a Popular Vote. So they have to rig by Hook and Crook to remain in Power and shield themselves from Prosecution. This Bill is not about National Interests but to keep Lungu and PF in Power. LAZ, UPND and other Progressive Zambians have to put their Heads together to prevent this Bill from being passed in Parliament thru PF Deceit and Manipulation. If passed, this Bill will transform Zambia from a Constitutional Democracy to a PF Dictatorship…

  4. @Jay Jay, this is why it is difficult to legalize weed in Zambia. Who could have stood against KK in UNIP time? Parliament is there to make and amend laws that is why the constitution protects Parliament to do its work with external interference. You financiers Mr Jay Jay could have taken this opportunity to amend things like the Public Order Act which they keep crying about every election. But alas they chose to listen to their mighty ruler king Icilema to stay away from the process. Come 2021 they will be crying Hagain over the Public Order Act and freedom of assembly. UPND is the most useless party ever.

    • jay jay, how come you are an expert in almost everything. kic is right ” that’s why its difficult to legalize weed in zambia ” the cow dung you are smoking is making you pry to a wrong god

  5. Isn’t this the same B.U.M that stopped the impeachment against the clown president because it was in court?? And as always my dull PF friends are jumping around like the clueless twits they are. Sad.

    • Matibini is truly a PF Cadre. On the Lungu Impeachment Bill Matibini suspended the 2/3 Majority Vote after Lungu rushed to the High Court. Nation in this Case suspended this Bill given it is in Court. But Matibini is refusing to suspend the Amendment Bill No.10 of 2019 using the Precedent and on orders from Lungu and PF. LAZ by Petitioning this Bill is fulfilling its Mandate to promote and defend the Zambian Constitution. The PF and NDF sponsored Bill is an attack on the Zambian Constitution. Matibini is in contempt of Concourt and should be sued for this breach of the Court. Matibini as a Lawyer has forgotten that he took an Oath to Uphold and Defend the Zambian Constitution. Let Concourt Rule on this Petition and should Matibini impose this Bill on Parliament we urge all MPs to vote…

  6. Surely surely, can’t we do something about WIGS? What am seeing here on this Matibini guy’s head is exactly what is inside his THICK head/minds – mental colonisation! What mudzungus say goes and Kashimba Chimbwili suggests is literally discarded, thrown out of the window!

  7. John Sangwa is now behaving like those useless UPND lawyers Jack Mwiimbu and Martha Mushipe. He knows that even if we had a jemasoni guzzler in State House you can’t sue him, he enjoys unfettered immunity. Further, Parliamentary business is not determined by Courts, so why did he come up with such a useless suit? Don’t follow Muna Ndulo he’s been away for too long, this isn’t the US where they tolerate such things. Find another way of fighting that useless Bill because this won’t work. The PF is indeed a disaster, unfortunately the UPND are equally another worse disaster. Why can’t upright men enter politics and redeem our country from these vampires? It’s true the educated are cowards just like Sata observed

  8. As long as the so called educated continue insulting the President, marketeers and Taxi drivers continue to mobilise themselves and see to it that Those rich chaps never enter Plot 1.
    It will always be like that.
    Mazoka humbled himself and was ward Chairman in Bauleni, that’s where you begin to get support for higher office. ..Grassroots Bwana hechi he.

  9. Can someone enlighten the public about the changes to the constitution , speculations can be poisonous any learned lawyer out there to explain to the people what is to be changed and whose advantage will it be .
    Exchanging bad words only when the people are in the dark about what you are protecting will not be of any meaning to the general populace in the nation .
    What I mean is people would like to know what the argument is all about .

  10. This bill was subjected to the wider forum for people to critic and make submissions. As usual the under five ordered his Followers (MPs) not to participate and instead insists that the church is the one that must mediate. Since when did the church have exclusive rights to mediate on matters of national importance? Spoilers will always be spoilers. And losers will always behave as losers not responsible to anyone except to themselves. This bill must carryon with or without the losers. If these guys had the nation at heart this is one area we should have seen them puting forward intelligent arguments for and against, that is their job but instead they have duped the people that elected them to parliament. They are now behaving like Kangaroos jumping all over their place.

  11. Maybe there are some bad elements in the amendment bill. But for me once I see a UPND hand in the matter I switch off because I want to err on the cautionary side, they are simply not trustworthy. Even if I may not trust PF fully, UPND tena not even an iota of trust from me. I put UPND at the bottom of my trust list.

  12. These frivolous lawsuits are just a way of raiding LAZ coffers by its select members, friends taking care of friends. Those representing LAZ in cases that are going nowhere still have to be paid at the end of the day. Non of the Law firms engaged claim to be acting pro bono. It would be interesting to know how much they are paying Sangwa and how much they paid Musa Mwenye.

  13. Law in Zambia seems like a game. A petitioner asks the petitioned not to work because there is a case in court on the matter. The petitioner is also a judge? What will be the role of the judge?

    • Good question…but UPND lapdogs cannot differentiate due to group think mentality… Unless their Supreme leader HH gives a go ahead that’s they can support because they worship him…

  14. THE UNDERLYING FACTOR AT THE HELM OF ALL THIS IS THAT UPND WANTS TO MAKE THE COUNTRY UNGOVERNABLE SO THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE VOTERS WILL SEE UPND AS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE. UNFORTUNATELY THIS HAS FAILED THEM ALL THE TIME. I SUPPORT THE SPEAKER HERE. YES WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH PF. BUT AT THIS MOMENT, PF LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN UPND. WHY IS UPND AFRAID OF DEBATING THEIR VIEWS IN PARLIAMENT OR NDF?

  15. “…on account of the doctrine of exclusive cognizance which provided that the House enjoyed exclusive and unfettered jurisdiction in the conduct of its internal proceedings…”
    CHAPWA!!!!

  16. Not too long ago after introducing archaic drafts into the ndf this resulted in a national out cry from the elite and those with the wisdom to discern over these bills. Quickly, some section who authored the same bills pulled out to appear innocent. I presume on account of what was veiled, they could ‘ve been no need to take ndf resolutions to parliament for amendment till it receives consensus across the nation.
    Those who still support the minority ndf documents, should look at the contents which most of them ‘re counterproductive.
    Let anyone with the authentic document publish its contents in the electronic & print media and on platforms like this so that citizens can comment wisely. It’s unpatriotic to condemn those that ‘ve read & understood that the bills ‘re not in the best…

  17. First off, I refuse to take serious or agree with a figure , a people or a system that has no love or respect for it self or its own!! This is 2019 and the photos above disgust me !!! And if they don’t disgust u , u are definitely part of the problem. How can the judicial representatives of what is predominantly a black nation still be wearing colonial wigs . And expect that they can make laws and build a Constitution that has its people at its best interest. Tu leke ifya bupuba shuwa!! Law of the land is not only meant to represent an agreement made by a society on how it should be run but represent a society as well . Y do we continue to hang onto colonial ways of things, is a myth .Stop copying and readjusting old British law. We have the brains to come up with our own laws ,For Zambians by Zambians .

  18. UPND and its warped -brained Lawyers must learn simple CIVICS that explains the administrative separation of such national Institutions as the Executive, Judiciary and Parliament. Besides, UPND is exposing its insults and disgust of its own Members of Parliament who participated in the National Forum which was created an Act of Parliament. Some of UPND’s Lawyers are acting like invasive noxious WEEDS within the structure of LAZ.

  19. As the Indians say ,

    ” chalo chakawena, malee yakamina ”

    See them fighting for power, they know not the hour.
    Creating diversions while the lungu and his gang continue rapping Zambia……they have just finished rapping and sharing among themselves a reserved forest in Lusaka….

    • Upnd is not up to good. This is a party that will go down in the zambian polical history as the most retrogresive, unreasonable, trible, confused and a party without manifesto. this is a party with people who think of themselves as zambians. The rest are not. Come 2021, those who they think are not zambians, will teach them yet another lesson as they did in the past five election. The amendments will go on. The courts cannot stop parlament deliberations. Only fools who dont know parliament can back like that.

  20. If what you saying is true,why did your discredited matbn not allow the impeachment motion to go ahead on similar grounds as you are referring to.

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