Religious Affairs Minister summons the Freemasons Society who took part in COVID-19 clean up

1. Hh sent them!!

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2. Does the law say that Freemasonry is outlawed in Zambia? Is Godfridah Sumaili the Registrar of Societies? One measure of how democratic a country is, is the number of citizens’ groups that are allowed to operate within the confines of the law. If Freemasons break the law in furtherance of their freemasonry, then the law ought to visit them. Short of that leave them alone.

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3. Are they registered with the registrar of Societies? If they are not they are an illegal entity and needs to be dealt with. Next time we will have lesbians, gays, Mormons in Zambian. HH look what you have attracted to Zambia for your love of power and money. Wait until your son comes home and tells you that he is gay and wants to get married.

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4. That was Rotary Club cleaning in Chilenje last Saturday.
   Freemanson cleaning???? We don’t do those stuff, we are always in suits.
   HH cleaning on Sabbath, don’t make sense.
   As a member of Freemanson I can tell you we not a religious club. It’s just a club of “strong” men.
   I regret to have joined because it’s so hard to leave them.
   I should advise you lazy Zambians not to join to think you be rich, no. But you not be broke because those guys push us to be hardworking men.

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6. We need to be careful and alert spiritually in this season. The Church must pray more so that the devil does not take advantage. The government should screen people and organizations that are donating.

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   • While, I observe that Zambia is allerged a Christian Nation, I doubt if you are aware that the church can’t even congregate. Do we know what that means to religion..?

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7. Why have u erased my comment? Challenge it and u might even win me over to your viewpoint.

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8. Was the group led by he he.

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9. Religious radicals never cease to amaze.

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10. Wht’s of concern here? Is it the donation or the existence of the group? If existence of the group is illegal, let Godfridah Sumaili complain to the Police so that these people are arrested. So many in Zambia profess membership of Christianity. How’s that impacting on how they treat their fellow human beings? This wht I am more concerned about.

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    • I support you fully, this National guidance and religious affairs ministry appear biased n segregative…

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11. Useless ministry I am surprised she is even calling for press briefings when there is a pandemic…when Churches were breaking govt directitives ahe was nowhere to seen…useless woman. Religion is truly the opium of the people…covid has showed us why this ministry needs to closed just like those churches with doors shut.

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12. This is one of the Cabinet ministers who deserve to be fired and ministry abolished to save money and channel it to most important things. What type reasoning is this. If she thinks this disease knows any status let her sit down and Satch from her sit.

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13. No wonder we have problems in our country it is because of such ministers. This disease know witch, freemasonry, rich, poor, smart or whatever, you get that’s it. Stop misleading zambians. Foolish minister

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14. Hehehehe

    PF running out of ammunition , trying to pin the gassing of our people on Hh did not work , now they they are trying seer 1 tactics

    I dought there are organised Freemasons in Zambia, especially in this climate of hunger ….

    If there are Freemasons in Zambia , tell us who their leaders are ?

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15. It’s all lies from PF , there is no organised Freemassions in Zambia ,

    The PF are regrouping from the gassing debacle …….

    She says her ministry is in contact with the freemassions , why can’t you name them ? What is wrong with naming their spokes person ?

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16. So we cannot accept donations from other denominations in our society?

    So donations from our Muslim brothers and sisters is unwelcome?

    Ba Zed – you finish me!

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17. If they donated under the banner of free masons then how do you say they are not organized, anything that has a name needs to define itself so that they can have space in the society .
    How do you think this minister came to know about this group was doing , to my thinking they could have had put up a poster or were just saying who they were , probably even looking for new members from the communities

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18. Yaba even during Covid this lady has to make herself known. Registration of societies comes under home affairs but she needs to poke her nose into everything just to justify her salary. Why cant you go into hiding like the President.

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19. Why are certain Zambians superstitious? Freemasonry is an organized group whose members come from all sectors of the community. In fact, in Norway most of the members are christians.

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20. Holier than thou..and who taught you christianity….its the same Freemasons so dont just condemn their belief…Zambia is full of hypocrites and Sumaili you are the number one hypocrite and bandit at the same time…You useless Ministry is just a waste and just wasting tax payers money

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21. The masonic lodge is along cha-cha cha rd behind kariba house in Lusaka in ndola the masonic lodge is near the civic center. If one is allergic to masons don’t go to the USA,
    The USA is found on free Mason principles, the one dollar bill has Mason symbles on it.

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22. Madam Rev Sumaili please don’t embarrass this country by your luck of spiritual insight… so in all these years of your ministry,you dont know who these people…you are supposed to be Prayerful instead of getting huge salaries and other benefits….pray madam you are to casual …thats why you can even call them for a meeting…pa last they will even put a snake in your stomach ..

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23. Lets not be quick to blame hh for this without facts of the investigation. We are looking into this

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    • Tell your friends to read and research, they might just find that even the national constitution idea is derived from the sources they spit at and abhors so much.

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24. The position is not clear. Is the group outlawed? Are they registered? What about other non-Christian groups, should they not support? What exact law or regulation has breached?

    Is there scope to disband this ministry and reallocate resources to fighting COVID?

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25. Madam u a just being used the whole story is a blue lie. You a a pastor pls desisit from lies

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26. The ignorance in Zambia is mindboggling judging by the comments above.
    Firstly what has H.H got to do with Freemasonry? Freemasonry has been in existence in Zambia for yonks, way before independence & even when Zambia was a functioning nation before these current G®®n’z ruling took over.
    Bututu too much!! If that useless (God)fr!dah is ignorant & ill informed, why on earth is she holding the post of Minister & haemorrhaging scarce Taxpayers resources whilst heading her equally useless & inept Cadre ministry?
    THE NATIONS THAT YOU BEG MONEY FROM, INCLUDING CHINA HAVE THRIVING FREEMASON CHAPTERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES!

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27. Cont;
    (God)fr!dah & her ignorant useless thieving Corrupt “Zambia is a Christian Nation P.F, Mob” should tell Zambian’s; if it illegal under Zambian law to be a Freemason & is it illegal to have Lodges in Zambia, coz THEY DO EXIST, you dumb mushroom (God)f!dah!!

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28. HH sent them. He is working thru coronavirus

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29. It is fear and ignorance which is the biggest enemy.
    If you are so proud and confident about our Lord protecting Zambia with dazzling divine light, then what is there to fear. You are fearful of people with secrets.? I thought this Christian nation had providence on its side.
    But then again, looking at the state of affairs like street kids , entrenched corruption , ubuloshi by churchgoers, Christian nation is just on paper! ..Just a pipedream.!

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    • I wish people would research on were the ideas of national constitution and bill of rights originate from, and the origins of the oldest constitution on earth the American constitution that we have copied from to have our constitutions, am sure even mama doest know even when they are busy pushing for bill 10 , they have no idea that a national constitution concept is derived from Freemason constitution, ask the founding fathers of USA.

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    • The striking similarities between the Masonic Constitutions and the Articles of Confederation, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights display a revealing connection that has been hardly recognized or explicitly advertised (this is one of Freemasonry’s “public secrets” that has agitated fundamentalists and conspiracists alike).

30. Meanwhile you have been accepting loans and donations from the Chinese who mostly do not believe in God. What about non Christian associations rendering humanitarian support to local communities? If there is a distinct line in Christian values and adherence you are trying to propound as a Ministry, then spell it out clearly, similar to Countries that have declared Islamic state maintain such value, norms and practices. That association or grouping whether registered or not in this particular occasion demonstrated goodwill intended to save lives which is quite crucial under the circumstances we are facing with this pandemic.

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31. Who would belive PF ?

    A ruling party that was gassing its own people to try to pin the blame on opposition ? More than 45 people died as a result of this unforgivable , reckless murderous act by PF.

    And why are they not updating the nation on their investigations ?

    Will this end up like the 45 mansions ……Zeeeee ?

    We will not let lungu slip this one under the mat , we will ask him every week until we are updated.

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    • If only pf cadres would take time to read, research and watch documentaries on Natgeo instead of only dancing to dandy crazy songs, they would know that even the idea of constitutions is a Freemasons idea.

      Kikikiki, utuntu Ba pf .

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32. The striking similarities between the Masonic Constitutions and the Articles of Confederation, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights display a revealing connection that has been hardly recognized or explicitly advertised (this is one of Freemasonry’s “public secrets” that has agitated fundamentalists and conspiracists alike).

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33. Look at this woman is she now god to judge hopeless.

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34. Zambia is a pluralistic society.

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35. Dear Minister, why have you not come out in the open to condemn corruption such as procuring Fire Machines at a million dollar for a unit, inflated cost of ambulances? Surely we need to hear from your office more guiding your officials when they can off rails. Your office is critical in ensuring governance is held to christian values as you have outlined above.

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36. What is there to investigate if no crim was committed… All was done was good deeds and charity. What is Christian of punishing people who do good deeds in society with committing any laws or crimes simply because you choose to not understand them by assume the worst about them. This is far worse that the great inquisition of the dark ages. If this is what Christianity is about I denounce the religion… Christianity has become a joke.. you have fake pastor who have made fortunes in the name of Jesus but what have they done for the country during this period?

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37. This irrelevant ministry must make it clear what ‘beef’ it has with the freemasonry. There is a lot of archaic information and ignorance about the group. It has it’s human commitments and it has people who have always been weary about some of it’s activities. But in truth, it’s not anymore ‘satanic’ than a lot of other so-called orthodox groups. In fact it, does also champion good values, honesty and generosity. Right now it is participating in the distribution of various resources in the Covid-19 fight in the UK. It is not religious, but at the same time does not oppose it. In fact it encourages people to be guided by the ‘supreme being’. It does not care what religion you come from. Even some Catholics are members. Just because they don’t worship in the same way, they are…

38. … enemies? Who is Sumaili to claim that “Zambia, being Christian oriented, is a nation of light anchored on the word of God and Acknowledges the lordship of Jesus Christ over the nation”? First of all, what does that mean for other faith groups? Secondly, in practice, in my opinion and something that is abundantly clear to those who are objective, Zambia is essentially and largely a pagan nation that has lost any claims to values and spirituality. So please ‘don’t preach. There is work to be done over coronavirus and this is an unnecessary political diversion.

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39. The first part of my comment above, is apparently being moderated. I don’t understand why, but there you are

40. Holier than thou….Christians are hypocrites and they like Judging other people’s beliefs…Sumaili you’re wasting tax payers money with your nonsensical Ministry….that money you’re wasting could have helped in COVID 19 combating and mitigation

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41. Oh my the justification though……fili okotuleya.
    Amazing… ..you see Christians look at our friends how they have defended their secret society or organisation?
    Imagine if we also defended our belief with passion as above.
    I have directed my contribution to my fellow believers and I don’t expect any one to start schooling me on something I don’t believe in.
    The beauty is I have freedom to cast that beautiful vote. Kwamana!!!#

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42. Am tired of Zambia and most of her people

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43. Sumaili you should be ashamed of yourself….i was asking asking myself just how did we end up with this Ministry of religion and with such dunderhead of a Minister..TOTAL WASTE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY…..the same Freemasons respect Christianity but why do Christians despise other peoples beliefs??? Sumaili is sick in her head she needs help

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44. Dear Rev Sumaili, Freemasons are a satanic organization.
    1) Who authorized their existence in Zambia a Christian Nation all this long?
    2) why has the police allowed them even to be meeting behind Kariba house on chacha road, Lusaka and other parts of Zambia?

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45. Right @ Nostradamus that they indeed are hardworking men and nurture great minds! They build excelling leadership abilities and drive world economies, the feeble minded can never be Mason’s! I wonder how in Zambia any exclusive club that sets high standards to membership quickly gets despised! Would a billionaires society be tolerated let alone accepted in Zambia? In situations of grave danger or hunger what is the accepted standard of a helping hand? Christian nation in which sex workers come out in the open lamenting affects of the Corona pandemic on their business!

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46. This miserable excuse for a minister is a sanctimonious ignoramus who says nothing while her thieving cronies bleed Zambia dry.We are a Christian Nation indeed!

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47. Look at this woman honestly, she is the epitome of the calibre if the fools wielding power in your corridors of state, rule of *****s by the stupid fools over Zambians! Listen to this woman, please, where else apart from Zambia can an imbecile like this one be Minister?

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48. Just look at the name of the ministry, just how more ridiculous could the name of a ministry be? No wonder even the responsible Minister is a clown!!

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49. How can she claim at her age she doesn’t know the Freemasons? Even a simple Google can give anyone enough info before going on a public podium. She can’t be all that ignorant honestly, otherwise, this is a naked display of how irrelevant this whole Ministry is. I can’t believe we tax hardworking people just to pay people who provide no value-addition to the nation like these.

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50. I THANK GOD TO WHAT KZ HAS SAID. KZ,U ARE NOW GROWING UP WITH NZELU. MUNTHU WANKU MAWA. MY,GUY I COULD HAVE GIVEN U SOME NICE SWEET WHISKY OF SOUTHERN COMFORTER WITH YOUR NICE,BREATH TIMELY AND NZELU ADVICE IN THIS POSTING. KEEP IT UP DON’T BE MISLEAD. ONE KZ UMUPONDO.

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51. idiocy!

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52. THEY IS NOTHING WRONG IN BEING A FREEMASON. PLEASE,ZAMBIANS CREATE A CULTURE OF RESEARCHING. THERE BELIEFS THE FREEMASONS IS THAT THE CAN HELP U 100% BUT NOT PUBLICIZE ALOT.NOT THE MYTH THAT THEY ARE SANANIST NO. THEY ALSO BELIEVE THE POWER OF A HIGHER BEING.

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53. 9 things you didn’t know about Freemasonry
    1. When meeting, Masons do not discuss religion or politics.
    “There are certain subjects which are prevented or we simply proscribe from discussing within the lodge,” Piers Vaughan, master of St. John’s Lodge #1 in New York, told Mo Rocca. “And religion is one. Politics is another.”
    One of the world’s leading experts on Freemasonry confirms.
    “Do they discuss forms of politics and events that have happened? Yes, they do,” said UCLA history professor Margaret Jacob. “Do they say, ‘Well, I’m a Democrat and therefore I think …’ Or, ‘I’m a Republican … ‘ No, I don’t think they do that.”
    2. Freemasonry is not a religion.
    “Freemasonry has the look of a religion,” said Jacob. “You think of religion as ritual, there’s also…

54. “You see even when these people held their event in Chilenje to the extent of donating materials, they never informed anyone nor did they seek guidance from the ministry of health on how to proceed with their activity under the circumstances,” Hon Sumaili said.
    “It is against this background that my Ministry has held a meeting with the leaders of the group to understand them, however according to them, they are a part of the society with secrets,” the Minister said.
    IS THIS TRUE?

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55. Societies that do not uphold Africans, one of God’s original children should never be allowed to dictate the nation. Their is no high ranking black mason. Stop it; even Babylon was rich, Jehovah’s sun shines on the good and bad. Let’s not accept evil just because it is from rich people. Zambia and Africa can be rich without Europeans. Reason they so afraid of leaving South Africa. Japan thrives without Europe. Imagine what happens to Europe without Africa’s resources. Africa’s most dangerous threat is not masons, Asians or Europeans. It is coons. People with inferiority complexes. How do you envy someone whose skin cannot handle the sun’s direct rays, and think they are better than you? Think about that.

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56. THESE COPY AND PASTE BORN AGAINs??

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