Democratic Party President Harry Kalaba has called on the government to avail to the public reasons why Zambia voted along with 141 nations at the UN emergency meeting to reprimand Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.
He has challenged the government to state if it has departed from its long-held non-aligned stance when it joined others Countries to vote against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and demanded that Moscow stop fighting and withdraw its military forces.
Mr. Kalaba said Russia has been a true friend of Zambia and the two countries have been collaborating in various areas of interest with Zambia buying military equipment and fertilizer from Russia.
He said the government could have taken a neutral stance as opposed to voting against Russia.
And Patriotic Front PF Members of Parliament have accused The UPND administration of President Hakainde Hichilema of departing from Zambia’s non-aligned foreign policy.
Hon Ronald Chitole and Hon Miles Sampa both PF MPs said Zambia’s decision to vote for a United Nations resolution against Russia’s aggression on Ukraine may have ramifications on bilateral relations with Moscow which have existed since 1964.
They said at Different times in Parliament that the former ruling Party PF is shocked at Government’s shift in its foreign policy without consulting the people of Zambia through Parliament prompting hence the points of order from Hon Chitotela and Hon Sampa.
However, UPND’s government critic, opposition Patriots for Economic Progress(PEP) leader Sean Tembo, has backed Zambia’s vote at the recent United Nations emergency general assembly saying a wrong must be condemned wherever it manifests itself.
Commenting on this development, Mr. Tembo said that Zambia cannot just look at a country invading another country and causing so much destruction and loss of lives on the basis of flimsy excuses.
He says Zambia should be a courageous and proud nation with strong principles and moral values and was therefore on firm ground to vote to condemn Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, at the United Nations.
In a statement, Mr. Tembo said that if as a result of Zambia’s vote to condemn the invasion of Ukraine, Russia gets upset and decides to close their embassy in Zambia, they should go ahead.
We need people at the level of Misheck, shadrick and Abedinego in the government. People neither swayed by majority thinking nor super powers. Also remember the war of Goliath and David’, who will tell me today that he could have been non aligned. The problem is that people surrender their lives and worship the devil in politics. They are mostly judases who throw away their faith in exchange for 3 pieces of silver. All have heard.
Please Harry concentrate on matters of nshima and relish. Russia in simple terms is wrong. For me this is the only sensible thing from the Upnd so far.
It must be compulsory for those that offer themselves for political leadership to be well schooled in governance and politics at both local and international levels. Kalaba knows that the UPND have a 5yr mandate to steer Zambia in their desired direction and only Parley can question their decisions. When the people voted they knew that they were voting for a Party and President sponsored by imperialists. My advice to the UPND is that they should open their eyes as they make decisions because they might regret soon. I advise them to acquaint themselves with the history of how Russian ships laden with nuclear missiles returned to Russian to avert a nuclear war. The US opposed the deployment of those weapons in Cuba as it threatened their very security. Ukraine as former USSR is playing very…
Ukraine as former USSR is playing very dangerous imperialist games by trying to join NATO. The push by the West to dominate the world might lead us to a nuclear war and Zambia has no role in that. Tell Bally to get and education on these matters
Ati Hon Ronald bani? Yaba! This is why Zambia’s foreign policy is shifting. LT, Hon Chito.. will sue you.
This is a continuation to my earlier message. If the earlier message under moderation doesn’t get posted then this won’t make much sense
Ronald Chitotela has been given a befitting name by LT
Zambia voting on aggression/occupation at the UN General Assembly since 1964
2022 Aggression against Ukraine – Y
1991 Situation of human rights in Kuwait under Iraqi occupation -Y
1986 Armed Israeli aggression against the Iraqi nuclear installations – Y
1985 Armed Israeli aggression against the Iraqi nuclear installations – Y
1985 situation in Namibia resulting from the illegal occupation of the territory by South Africa – Y
1984 Armed Israeli aggression against the Iraqi nuclear installations -Y
1982 Armed Israeli aggression against Iraqi nuclear installations -Y
1981 Armed Israeli aggression against the Iraqi nuclear installations – Y
1973 Illegal occupation by Portuguese military forces of certain sectors of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau – Y
WHY DO WE SEND CRIMINALS TO PRISON ?
YOUR QUESTION IS IRRELIVANT
These so called “new dawn” are just under five politicians who have neither the institutional memory nor any knowledge of our international standing of our country. They are just a grouping of souls that won election on the ticket of people rejecting the hooliganism of some rotten PF politicians.HH is even easily more corruptible than those of his PF counterparts
No wonder you were rejected by Zambians on 12th August. Can any normal person say what this fake grade 12 former foreign affairs is saying? No wonder Zambia was aligned to Dictators only during their rule-look at their thinking? And uyu anali ndi Foreign affairs minister ka. Talking like this
One can wonder what deals he signed as a minister and with who? No doubt on that list u ll find the likes of; Sudan , Rwanda, Zimbabwe , Uganda, Burundi, Libya, China, North Korea, Russia. No wonder no one could borrow us money as this what our leaders were voting for in these high level meetings.
If he talk such nonsense in public , it means , he had on many occasions voted for Russia and other dictators. Him and Mmembe are time bombs for this country-keep them far away from the presidency. They ll sing you into battles u don’t even understand.
HOW CAN SOME ON HERE CRITISE THIS GOVERNMENT
MOST OF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT UKRAINE EXCEPT IT’S NAME APPEARS EVERYWHERE NOW
MOST STILL BELIEVE IT MAYBE A CITY SOMEWHERE
ALSO 95% ZAMBIANS HAVENT A CLUE ABOUT IT
SO THIS GOVERNMENT DID THE RIGHT MORAL CHOICE !
AND TALKING OF MORALS MOST ON HERE LACK IT AND ARE PURELY HERE TO CONTRADICT WHATEVER IS POSTED
SO ANNOYING
Zambia was very right to vote against Russia and this is not even a partisan issue. You can not have a country invading another country killing innocent and defenceless citizens and you still want to sit on the fence saying we were non aligned in the past.
Sean Tembo making a lot of sense on this score. You cannot invade another country kill people and get cheered on. War will never be a solution, Killing people can never be a solution. Even if somebody’s thinking may be upside down never side with war mongers, never say we are non aligned when you see something wrong, if you do that, just know that you are accomplices to the killings
Sir I’m my apologies but you are a fool. Which country in their right mind would support Russia currently.
Do us a favor go and fight for them in the front line.
Koswe
Zambia should have abstained this is a very tricky situation remember how the US supported a coup to over throw the then Ukrainian govt back in 2014 then take the MPs to parliament and force them to change laws only the govt to replaced through the votes by a western puppet govt we have today. The Zambian govt forgets that Russia is being surrounded with new NATO bases which are a threat to their peace and to add insult Ukraine wanted to join NATO….they have refused to abide by the peace treaty of either of them to attack the other. The problem we have with HH7 and his ministers is that they like to appease the muzungus and watch too much CNN and BBC as reflected during covid-19 pandemic.
@Tarino
You wandering off Track again !!
Who said we following Americans ? There are over 100 countries stating their displeasure and supporting sanctions
There is no such thing as unaligned .. One has to be on one side or another even if its in the mind, Political correctness don’t apply here
Muzungus Really coming from You ….. all i’ll add is they are slighly less corrupt than most in the east.
@Tarino Orange, my earlier comment is still under moderation. People need to be educated about history. In 1962 when Russia wanted to deploy nuclear missile in Cuba the US surrounded the Island and was ready for war until Russian ships laden with the missiles turned back. Wasn’t Cuba a sovereign state?
How did the US behave when Russia wanted to deploy missile on Cuba in 1962?
Kalaba is quite du.ll………..
All GRZ has to say is that invading another country is wrong………….
Then what will you say kalaba ???
Though I think zambia should have abstained………..
Asking them to explain why they voted to condem the invasion is a waste of time…………
HK is du.ll………..
That’s why he signed for mining in a game park…………
It is because hh does anything his whlte masters tell him to do. Remember this is the traitor who sold our companies for nothing to the same western masters of his. He is a slave with inferiority complex
Dumb Kalaba Putin is criminal dictator like Hitler, He wants to install dictators around the world. If HH refuses to concede election defeat he could call Putin for protection. We don’t want that.
IMPOSTER YOU ARE NOTHING WITH YOUR WHITE/ BROWN/YELLOW MASTERS DISHING THEIR HARD EARNED FUNDS OUT TO YOU
GET REAL OR ZIP IT
This is so cheap politics. Politics of the belly not principle. A wrong is a wrong no matter whose behind it. To invade or colonise someone has always been wrong. Calling it out is the least someone can do in principle.
What a bunch of numskulls who would say anything to be in the limelight just for the sake of politicking. Please stay out of issues of foreign policy and let the govt represent us. As #1 Deja Vu said above, please stick to domestic issues.
At “I’m a Christian”, so how do you sit on the fence when unprovoked war is raging on killing innocent civilians? Please sometimes it’s better to read the mood in the room.
Please don’t confuse non-aligned state policy of KK during the ‘cold war’ with a UN resolution condemning an invasion of a sovereign nation by a superpower led by an egomaniac narcissistic dictat0r. Please sir, sit down!
Learn to unite when it comes to international issues like Western govts do. Opposition leaders shouldn’t be questioning the govt in this manner as this borders on national security… this isn’t about aid money to buy expired drugs.
This dude wants Zambia to attract unnecessary attention in itself. Russia’s economy is about to be worse than a 3rd world country’s economy and you want us to go against nations that control SWIFT… what kind of thinking is this anyway?
Mr. Kalaba said Russia has been a true friend of Zambia and the two countries have been collaborating in various areas of interest with Zambia buying military equipment and fertilizer from Russia.” LT
“A sovereign state, also known as a sovereign country, is a political entity represented by one centralized government that has sovereignty over a geographic area.”
Zambia and Russia share something in common: they do not have a strong centralized government. The Power of their countries vested in their leaders not in the government. “government of the people by the people”
Zambia support the world.
tikki – Of the US has a bigger say in all this …NATO is influencied by US…when US was flying bombing sorties over Libya who objected. Remember the Cuba missile crisis? The US has surrounded Russia with NATO bases..
People Zambia has too many problems of its own to start focusing on Russia’s war with NATO. Let them fight each other to their death. You politicians should provide reasons why 80 percent of Zambian rural areas have no electricity, running water and clinics. why 80 percent of Zambian youth are unemployed despite going through colonial style “education” why Zambian scientists cant come up with a cure for AIDS when their country is so decimated by this disease. Why Zambian engineers cant invent a car suited for Zambian potholes,
, Why Zambian cities have so much garbage with so many taxpayers feeding our coffers, Do you know that in progressive countries garbage is converted to energy? There are just so many issues a politician should be tackling within Zambia before expounding on who…
@Deja Vu, @ Independent, @Jigga Kayama Simangulungwa ,@Tikki,
You summarized it all. Unfortunately, Ba LT keeps moderating my comments, for no reason. Just to add on
1] The original NAM objective, was to be non-aligned against NATO and Warsaw Pact countries, that objective ended in 1991. Some of the Warsaw pact countries are now in NATO. The voting pattern of NAM countrieson this resolution has been mixed, majority of them VOTING FOR the resolution.
2]As summarized by @ Independent, Zambian Voting has been FOR the RESOLUTION, it has never been NON-ALIGNED. So GRZ did the right thing!
LT has failed on this because vital comments are being moderated. Let the people express themselves
@TARINO,
1] On one hand you support the democratic principle, that each country has the right to determine its destiny, why are you denying Ukraine that very right?
2] It’s NOT TRUE, NATO has bases in all NATO countries, there are no NATO bases in SLOVAKIA, CZECH, POLAND, HUNGARY, those are the countries which were in Warsaw pact and are now in NATO.
3] Those countries joined NATO for the same reason, they anticipated RUSSIA Aggression, and they wanted NATO protection based on NATO Article 5 Collective defence.
@ Ayatollah,
YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT, WE ARE ALL VICTIMS OF THIS STU.PID MODERATION BY LT. DUE TO TIME DIFFERENCES, BY THE TIME WE RAISE OUR COMMENTS AND ARE MODERATED, IT SOMETIMES TAKES 12HRS – 24HRS, BY THEN THE TOPIC IS OUTDATED.
WE NEED TO PROTEST AGAINST THIS E.VIL.
WHAT IS SUPRISING IS THAT ITS THE INNOCENT COMMENTS THAT ARE WITHHELD, FOR NO REASON.
BA LT, THIS MUST END
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Ba Kalaba, just because Russia has been giving Zambia some bread crumbs then we should side with their stupidity. We are talking about people dying here. Kalaba would you be OK if your boss or someone who helped you financially grab your wife or rape your daughter? And you want to be a president with that thinking!
Ba Kalaba, just because Russia has been giving Zambia some bread crumbs then we should side with their stupidity. We are talking about people dying here. Kalaba would you be OK if your boss or someone who helped you financially grab your wife or rape your daughter? And you want to be a president with that thinking! Kwena shallow thinking.
General Kanene – Read this article from east-usa. com
Map of US and NATO bases in Europe
NATO’s eastward expansion is a process of protecting an ever-expanding territory with ever-smaller forces. Countries that are completely militarily incapacitated join the Alliance, but do not seek any capacity. Moreover, after joining NATO, all countries in Eastern Europe began to reduce their armed forces and military budgets to a minimum, although Brussels and especially Washington wanted the opposite from them. The East decided that it now had no need to strain, because the West, having accepted it into NATO, automatically assumed obligations to protect it. The West wanted the East to make an adequate contribution to the overall military effort, especially since the countries of Western Europe…
have greatly reduced their armed forces and wanted the Eastern Europeans to replace them “at the battle post”. As a result, even from Poland, which actually opened a road to the West for the entire region in the early 80’s, the voices of skeptics began to sound. Some Polish politicians, without giving up their Russophobia, started talking about the fact that the Russians at least did not send them to Afghanistan, although they fought there even more actively than the United States is now.
In such circumstances, the official invitation to NATO of Croatia and Albania, and the potential admission of Macedonia, Ukraine, and Georgia there, somewhat resembles a mockery of common sense. A whole crowd of countries with armies that have not even zero, but deeply negative combat capability…
negative combat capability (this showed, by the way, the fiasco of the Georgian army during the war in South Ossetia) is immediately hung on the block, while the area of responsibility of the Alliance is very significantly expanded.
However, we must not forget about one factor, the most important factor. NATO’s eastward expansion is largely an end in itself. It gives the sense of the existence of huge Brussels bureaucracy. This meaning was lost in connection with the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR, and a new one was never found. Since no bureaucracy in the world will dissolve itself, it will surely come up with a new meaning for its existence and begin to implement it. Extensive expansion of your control area is an ideal solution. Nobody is interested in efficiency. The main…
The main thing is accounting and control.
Russian and their AK-47 And mingling in other people’s Affairs someday they will be accountable for their action. The carnage that AK-47 has caused on the African continent and you want to support them?
That is a very one eyed view. You an only see the carnage that AK-47 has caused on the African continent but cant see the carnage that The A Bomb caused on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The carnage that Napalm Bombs caused on Zambia, The carnage that M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M14 brought to Vietnam and Angola. The carnage that M4 assault rifles brought to Iraq Afghanistan and Libya
Daniel Chisebwe – You dont even know why AK 47 was a prefered choice for freedom fighters…remember it was the Russians who withdrew their ambassdor during Sharpeville massacre in RSA March 21, 1960..do you know what that incident was? It occured in the Black township of Sharpeville, near Vereeniging, South Africa, in which police fired on a crowd of Black people, killing or wounding some 250 of them. It was countries such as Zambia, Tanzania and the Soviet Union provided military support for the ANC and PAC….did you ever see freedom fighters with M16 refiles or Heckler & Koch sub machine guns.
You like these leaders of today have forgotten your history …this is a very complex matter that Zambia should have abstained…go and read your history yes its wrong to invade another…
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You like these leaders of today have forgotten your history …this is a very complex matter that Zambia should have abstained…go and read your history yes its wrong to invade another country but a lot has happened that have led to this situation.
LT stop this pointless moderation – where is my full response to Daniel Chisebwe
We are just information Processor, why killing each other? You can learn a lot from a bee colony.
@ Tarino Orange – Thanks for the article, which makes such contributions more meaningful and educative. The key point in your previous contribution was that there were NATO Bases, and I stand by my comment, that there are NO NATO BASES in the new countries , your article also supports that thesis -it clearly says ” Moreover, after joining NATO, all countries in Eastern Europe began to reduce their armed forces and military budgets to a minimum…” There were plans for NATO to place NATO missile defense systems in those new countries, the respetive parliaments and via referendum did NOT APPROVE. This move by RUSSIAN actually, has the OPPOSITE effect. Now neutral countries like FINLAND wants to join NATO for protection. RUSSIA IS THE AGGRESSOR, If Ukraine wants to be protected, let it…
general KANENE – I dont think you have read the article fully to underatnd but to cherrypick points …mind you being an alliance member is just as good as having a base especially that yuou have reduced your defence budget. Do you know what the Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty was? It is was an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, signed in 1997, which fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual commitment not to use its territory to harm the security of each other. The treaty prevents Ukraine and Russia from invading one another’s country respectively, and declaring war. Ukraine announced its intention not to renew the treaty in September 2018. By doing so the treaty did…
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The treaty prevents Ukraine and Russia from invading one another’s country respectively, and declaring war. Ukraine announced its intention not to renew the treaty in September 2018. By doing so the treaty did expire on 31 March 2019.
Today you are here saying Russia is the agressor but you have Ukraine wanting to join NATO and has a Western puppet govt. I dont support Russia’s actions my point here is to justify the reason for opting for Zambia to abstain from this very complex issue.
LT stop moderating !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with Ayatollah on this one. Russia is right, the Ukraine should not deploy NATO weaponry aimed at Russia right across from Russia’s border. The West has no right to condemn Russia and acuse it of ‘war crimes’ in the Ukraine. Look at their own war crimes in Iraq and Lybia. Their media were not reporting them as such. In Lybia, every NATO atrocity was justified by the lie of ‘protecting civilians’, and in Iraq as ‘searching for weapns of mass destruction’. Please, let’s analyse world events in context.
LT thank you for taking on board my request for you to effectively moderate comments especially those from these uncivilised tribal upnd supporters e.g. tarino, general kanene, spaka and the other cheekaIaz
Mbuzi iyo Meeeeeeeeeeeeee, article is about Zambia having voted against Russia the aggressor, butcher of its people its despot dictator Putin.
Zambia voted like any progressive nation at the UN did, to abhor evil except an unknown state called Eletrea voted for Russia.
So, KZ this is not about tarino, general kanene, sparka or Muna who you are fixated with. Go home eat porridge for sensible thoughts.
Muna Dekhane – When Obama was bombing Libya under the pretext of Col Gadiffi having WMDs you called him a hero …today that country is a failed state all thanks to US democracy. Zambia has no dog in this fight its best for it to abstain from such matters as you will be caught in the cross fire…was it not USSR that helped Africans in RSA during Aparthied?
If zambia had abstained, you would have asked for an explanation on why we abstained. If zambia had voted against Ukraine you would have asked why we voted against Ukraine. Your job is to oppose so continue opposing.
Zambia is a peace loving nation so why should we vote for war?
KALABA IS VERY SHALLOW-MINDED. HIS NAME IS DESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT HE MENTALLY IS: THE FORGETTER! YOU CANNOT HAVE A FORGETTER AS YOUR MINISTER LET ALONE PRESIDENT! HE IS A JOKER.
LT GET RID OF THIS TOPIC NOW ITS BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH
AND MOST DONT KNOW WHAT THEY TALKING ABOUT
ESPECIALLY THE PAID IMPOSTER
CANT SOMEONE FIND HIM A MEANIAL JOB ? TO KEEP HIM OCCUPIED
Tikki the ones doing menial jobs are refugees like you who are abroad. You are wiping your imperialist backsides as careworkers. That is why you support them even when ukraine is racially discriminating your fellow blacks. You are a brainwashed dog
As for muna dekane please read my comments above. You are a sick illegal immigrant being kept by your whlte masters so you have no option but to support who they support even when those people are racists against your own. That old whlte woman who is keeping you will soon go after another young black man and you will come-back home with nothing soon
In 1962 the Soviet Union began to secretly install missiles in Cuba to launch attacks on U.S. cities. The confrontation that followed, known as the Cuban missile crisis, brought the two superpowers to the brink of war before an agreement was reached to withdraw the missiles
Cuba’s alliance with the Soviet Union was the main reason the United States viewed Castro as a security threat–a fear that was arguably vindicated during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962
Why did Khrushchev put missiles on Cuba? Missile Gap- Khrushchev was worried that the USA had more long range missiles than the USSR. The USA even had missiles in Europe and Turkey. By putting medium range missiles in Cuba (virtually America’s backyard) it would begin to even the gap between them.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine resulted from two immense strategic blunders,
The first came on Nov. 10, when the U.S. and Ukraine signed a Charter on Strategic Partnership, which asserted America’s support for Kyiv’s right to pursue membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. The pact made it likelier than ever that Ukraine would eventually join NATO—an intolerable prospect for Vladimir Putin. “It was the last straw,”
The second strategic error was Mr. Putin’s underestimation of his rivals. “He despises the West and what he sees as Western decadence”. “He [Putin] had come to believe that the West was a shambles, both politically and culturally.” He also thought that the leaders of the West were “of poor quality, and inexperienced, in comparison with himself. After all,…
Zambia voted for peace and democracy
Lusaka Times for the umpteenth time block this stinky chi troll Kaizar Zulu.
And by the way congrats GRZ for voting against Russian invasion .
@Tarino Orange… you have been listening too much to Russia Today. Putin has used various pretexts to invade Ukraine, among them: to stop NATO from his doorstep and to liberate Russian speaking people from Ukraine genocide (deNazify he calls it). These are all BS.
First of all NATO has and will always be on his doorstep because Russia shares borders with NATO members. So even if he invaded Ukraine that would not change, and if anything NATO will only be emboldened by the current war.
The following are NATO countries that already border Russia: Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland and Norway. So is Putin going to invade those as well?
NATO is a defensive alliance whose purpose is to protect its members. Ukraine has a sovereign right to join any military alliance. They could have joined…
…They could have joined Russia if they so wanted like Belarus has done.
Even if Russia were to take over Ukraine, the following countries are NATO members that border Ukraine: Poland: Slovakia; Hungary and Romania. And guess what NATO will now ramp up it’s arsenal in those countries.
Only 6% of Russia’s land borders touch NATO countries. Russia has land borders with 14 countries. Only five of them are NATO members.