The Centre for Election and Governance (CEG ) Trustee Gershom Musonda says MMD Parliamentary Chief Whip Vernon Mwaanga’s observation on diplomats should be taken seriously.
Mr. Musonda observed that the behavior exhibited some diplomats is uncalled for and are against the principals of international diplomacy.
He said this in a statement released to ZANIS in Lusaka yesterday.
Mr. Musonda said it is wrong for the diplomats to continue attacking government in the media instead of using the normal established channels of government through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that compels them to dialogue with government over pressing issues when aggrieved.
He advised the envoys to unnecessarily stop criticizing and attacking government when government is working on various developmental issues among them strengthening bilateral relations.[quote]
Mr. Musonda cited that Zambians envoys accredited to other countries adhere and follow the laid down regulations and wondered why it was completely the opposite for those accredited to Zambia
Mr. Musonda said he expects diplomats help the country in attaining the Millennium Development Goals (MDG) and its vision of becoming a middle income country by 2030.
He said has further advised the diplomats to use the forums with government aimed at enhancing the country’s good governance record.
Mr. Musonda said gave an example of a former Zambian Ambassador to Libya Dr. Mbita Chitala who was recalled and reprimanded by late President for attacking some African Heads of States.
Yesterday, MMD Chief Whip Vernon Mwaanga advised diplomats to stop attacking government in public in the media.
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He looks like he is in a stable condition.
Fact still remains, the diplomat was talking about a valid subject matter. Shall we not deviate from the subject the diplomat commented on. Given that, Mbita Chitala gave his own opinion over the matter. Moreso, Zambia was not in a position to give better advice. Allow ourselves to accept criticism, it will build our perception towards a better Zambia.
Am certain this is not advice for our current crop of politicians.
Leave them diplomats alone. Why are u scared on criticism. These diplomats comment on issues in all countries. What makes VJ think the zambian government is immune to criticism. Marubishi.
#1 Chapwa. He is in a stable condition and he even went jogging from Roma to Parliament ! Kalefwa kamudala aka. The Diplomats are very right to talk about this mess we have here. Their taxpayers are paying through their a&*^%es to assist Zambia but some morons here are buildingmansions and buying small sized shoes out of the donors sweat ! Its too much
“Mr. Musonda said it is wrong for the diplomats to continue attacking government in the media instead of using the normal established channels of government through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that compels them to dialogue with government over pressing issues when aggrieved”.
This man needs to be told the world has moved on. Time to hide everything from people is long gone.
Just start no to their money guys or you have to put up with what they are saying. Not a brainer!
This Musonda chap should watch out. Do you think Donors are happy to see their tax payers money plundered by corrupt leaders. This Mwaanga chap is a worthless and used up person. He is no longer relevant to the current times. He deserves no respect. He should have retired from politics a long time ago to give room to young, vibrant and informed generation. He makes me siiick.
Just start saying no to their money guys or you have to put up with what they are saying. Not a brainer!
Iye kwena this is a great Mwaanga revolution! Lets accept we are in the wrong, we dont need to be told this. Everyone knows that the donor funds in Zambia are not well accounted for. The people in the so called donor states do pay tax, and this money is then given to people like the zambian Govt which is not bothered about how these funds are used. They react agrily to any critics which is not right. Apakomaila nondo nishi pali ubulema.
When is VJ going to die?
Our government is corrupt. The fight against it can only be won when we voice it out through every mean..
Iwe Gershom nechinobe chi VJ, we pay taxes here in England. We are sad to see our money squandered by clueless Nyama Soyas.
VJ Pass my greetings to Teta, Mazoka, Levy and the rest of the niggers when u go the other side of life….u going next… another state funeral in the next 12 months… RIP VJ
I kn c it 4rm th picture above.
Does anyone know the physical address of this centre?
#10 Zedian when donors stop giving aid to Zambia and when they stop sending ARVs. lol!
yes .. i know…. send e-mail 2 [email protected]
VJ still needs the donors 4 his AVRs…he was just joking
VJ must retire on Health grounds please!!!!
Mwaanga please die so that politics can be clean
Guys here, US & Europe pliz lets help sanitise our country by petitioning our govts here to freeze aid to zed until they start being accountable. These guys have embezzled foreign funds thru campaigns and they even have the guts to tell donars to keep quiet about their money. Either way we luk at it, it wont affect the common man in the village coz they havent benefitted from this aid unlss there is a by-elecion like its happening now in Kasama where they have just realised the need to drill a borehole. WE CAN DO IT GUYS.
VJ is full of shit,just like Tetamashimba! When the VIRUS is at full throtter people tend to talk nonsence,a good example is from TETA may his ass rot in hell,now it seem that VJ will soon kick the bucket followed by Mulongoti.AMEEN
It shows the way corrupt leaders always fail to accept their wrongs and learn to improve. MMD is heading to dust bin. People like Musonda should be ashamed to support corruption and abuse of donor funds. Musonda and VJ should know that accountability and responsibility are part of good governance and the tax payers want o see their money used to intended purposes and not being transfered in to foreign banks in corrupt ways. Chiluba will live and will be remembered as the person who killed and robbed the nation regardless of good things he did to zambia. Chiluba has got no shame neither the MMD to start parading him when evidence of corruption and abuse tax payer money for personal gain.
Beggars should always know that they have to be checked as to the use of donor funds.
Zambia is like an abyss, an endless black hole, where donors continue pumping in money which is just misused and/or stolen with the support of the president and his cabinet.
If the politicians do not what the donors to criticise them, then the most honorouble thing to do is to say NO MORE DONOR MONEY.
Otherwise, the diplomatic community and donor associations are to be totally supported for coming out strongly on corruption. This is what “We the People” want to see happening if Zambia is to develop.
Thankyou very much to all the brave diplomats and the donor community.
Zambia does not give any Aid to any country, this is why our diplomats keep quiet coz they have nothing to say.
VJ is very very very right here and i don’t see the reason why you guys (Fellow Bloggers) should attack and insult him. The man is NOT stopping these Diplomants from forwarding their complaints BUT rather use the right channels laid down. So, if you are living in the 21st Century, tell me where you got a problem with this advice VJ offered. Mind you, two wrong cannot make a right. Thus, i totally support VJ’s advice to these Diplomants. We also know that their Govts are NOT 100% right and Zambia has always used right channels to communicate to them. Look at the Iraq war, we where misled by BUSH that Hussien had weapons of mass distruction. Zambia in all this did not come out the way they are coming out. Zambia has her own principles, morals, values and norms which must not be overlooked.
LT NOTE that; My comments are not infringing anyone’s rights. The Diplomants need to be reminded of their duties as they operate in our country. The channels of communication must NOT be overlooked by them (Diplomants) and they know this fact. Therefore, kindly allow my comments to be published. Thank you.
Mr Musonda, with due respect diplomats from western governments exercise greater independence in expressing their views contrary to their Zambian counterparts – who are controlled like kindergarten kids.
Freezing aid won’t help it will just impact the general Zambian , the aid needs to go directly to Zambians through established highly accountable NGO’s etc. What needs to be done is sanctions against our leaders, bans to travel abroad, freezing of their assetts overseas , invstigative reporting on each one of them in terms of corruption and broadcasting it to the world etc
Freezing aid won’t help it will just impact the general Zambian , the aid needs to go directly to Zambians through established highly accountable NGO’s etc. What needs to be done is sanctions against our leaders, bans to travel abroad, freezing of their assetts overseas , investigative reporting on each one of them in terms of corruption and broadcasting it to the world etc
Freezing aid won’t help it will just impact the general Zambian , the aid needs to go directly to Zambians through established highly accountable NGO’s etc. What needs to be done is sanctions against our leaders, bans to travel abroad, freezing of their assetts overseas , investigative reporting on each one of them in terms of corruption and broadcasting it to the world etc.
Is Musonda asking Diplomats not to question the Zambian government why taxes paid by their citizens end up in his paymasters pockets, when these funds are donated to support health care? What cheek?
diplomats have the right to talk about their tax payers money
LT please put a better picture for VG.This ones looks like it was taken when he was young.
Do not start correcting my English those of you from cambridge.i meant one,Techisungu it’s a typing error.
VJ has nafita because of ARV’s, is in the line of stable.
ushe ba mdala ba mwaanga kunasala mutu weka-weka
Same fool**ls, sponsored mouthpieces, Musonda ulichipuba. VJ tone down, see you cannot foo*l all the people all the time.
#25 Educate the masses. There’s just low-level input, naba kaponya bali more enlightened!
That is that! no begger is respected by any one; just imagine we have been indipendent for the passed 45 years and we cannot fend for our selves up to today, and Mwanga is one the culprits of this senerio;; there is no one who will ever respect Zambia just be humble enough to accept your failure to govern
We dont want to see Mwaangas photos again please keep his photos away he diserves the shelf
VJ please save your energy. You are a sick man
Who is that skeleton posing as VJ?
I know this Musonda, he has a tendancy of supporting wrong things. remember ZIMT- he was part of ZIMT and he was also a part of NOCE and supported Chiluba’s third term. Please do not use NGO work as a source of livelihood. NGOs are suppossed to be pressure groups that monitor the work of goverment.
time to look after your ill health bamudala…and reflect ; which part of zambia have you changed since you joined the politics game???..so far non and i doubt if there is any young zambian who has been insipired by you at all….
Hello Zambia
Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi – what’s good for Jupiter is not necessarily good for the ox
When it comes to diplomatic relations with Africa, the equation is not balanced because you have “the haves” on one side and the “have-nots” on the other. In other words, he who pays the piper will always call the tune.
Aha! But why should Africans rely on others to sort their problems? I know NIne Chale you`ve complained about unfair trade and slavery but do you think things look like changing? The answer is a big no!
What a load of rubbish! Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
Typical of currupt politicians. The minute somebody points out what he
Felt was an incorrect and surprising decision- referring to the courts had made
In the Chiluba acquittal trial- just as many “Zambians” had expressed their
Disappointment. Nothing wrong at all!
Should he, along with his fellow diplomats and all of those that were not happy the courts
decision called a meeting at state House? What a waste of tax payer’s money that would
have been! And why is the Government’s Chief Whip warning and threatening diplomats and
those that wish to express their dismay of a court ruling? I am sure nobody has done anything illegal, nor are they inciting violence, nothing of that sort, but merely giving an opinion!!
Who is this Gershom Musonda kansi? LT I still maintain what i wrote here last time, please censor people who do not know what they are talking about. Its embarrassing. Mbita chitala wrote in his capacity as ambassador to Libya, meaning he was putting forward the position of GRZ, but that was no the position of GRZ on that subject, that’s why he was fired.Zambia doesnt pump money into Libya, if it did, then it would have also demanded accountability. The diplomats are saying please be accountable for what we give you, and for some strange reason most of us Zambians get scared when we hear the term accountability. All the cash for the little developments we are seeing in Zed comes from these same diplomats, tax we pay goes to certain peoples salaries. LT not everyone who speaks thinks.
And if their comments Are inciting in any way, let the courts deal with them? After
all the president is always on hand to remind us about the rule of law, innocent until
proven guilty and all of that malarkey!
Recently Scotland’s justice secretary released the Lockerbie bomber on humanitarian grounds. He
As well as the Scottish government received severe criticism from within and outside the
Country, but he did not turn around to warn and threaten everybody. Why? Because we
Are supposed to live in a world were freedom of speech and expression is encouraged, where people
Opinions are respected!
Last week The president was in New York addressing the UN and encouraged the US and Zambians living
Abroad to invest in Zambia. I would like to ask his “Excellency” and his…
I would like to ask his “Excellency” and his “Chief Whip” how such
Comments are supposed to encourage investment, be it, from Zambians abroad or as FDI??
Stop making threats each time your decisions are questioned-and this is not the last time we will question you by the
Way-and get on with the job that our taxes pay you to do! If you do not want to be questioned by the electorate and
taxpayers, then vacate your posts and pave way for genuine people that Would like to develop our PEACEFUL country!!
Are those skeletons sure responsible enough to run the nation, why have we left zambia to run by such pipo nowonder our economy looks just like them…………….
can somebody distinguish between zambian economy and that skeleton in the pic?
All Tom said was he was shocked by Chiluba case outcome. Now hes been blasted for attacking gov decisions? So in actual fact what VJ and this dude-whats-his-face are saying is Chiluba’s acquital was a govnment decision that should should not be critised. A case that was about a public servant that stole donor money-now that the donors are not happy then they are attacking govmnt? The same govnmnt that carries a begging cup everywhere it goes. The thing with boot licking is you only want to be the loudest of the pack and dont pay attention to what you are saying. So there you are bloggers-the Chiluba aquital was a govmnt decision that no one shold comment on-so it is not a rumour anymore. VJ and his fellow bootlickers have confirmed it for us all. Thanks VJ, your time will come. KARMA.
The uk military has not accounted for 7 billion pounds meant for purchase of military equipment etcaccording to the government audit body. How about that mr ambassador.Only solution for zambia is to reduce this dependancy by good fiscal displine and accountability with regard to our locally generated funds.
What VJ is saying is that diplomats should follow diplomatic etiquette as they criticize Govt. Just because our budgets are heavily donor funded does not mean that we become slaves. How many diplomats would criticize your Govts. the way you do ours without you requesting that they be recalled? We appreciate your concerns on accountability (and our leaders are really messing up our country), but please subscribe to civilized international behavior. By the way, for the baby bloggers here, like it or not, VJ (he did drugs) is our most accomplished diplomat – and you will go before him.
VJ’s is a diplomatic dinosaur, once the dominant vertebrate of an ancient diplomatic dynasty that existed during the last century. He was a star then, a bright one for that matter and since he has travelled light years to this life time, he still exhibits “ka umoya ka tenze bantu” without realising whatever he pukes is ancient to the ears of modern man like you and I. Hardly does he realise in the new order, if you are a begger like him and Kanitundila, you have no liberty. Besides, they cannot fight The Church, UPND-Sata, Mpombo, etc, unless they are Tarzan the City Bloke.
What accomplished diplomat is VJ, please spare us the rot. He is nothing but a stinking and notorious mercenary. He was sent to the US and ended up being a CIA operative spying on SWAPO, ANC and ZAPU-PF activities in his own country. He too was one of “an elite group” of super MI5 spies trained by Douglas Hurd at Oxford in counter espinage against their own countries. Just watch how fast this ***** of your will tuck his tail clean over his smelly prat once the British Ambassador tells him to shut up. He is one of their operative and this “kulimonesha ta” would evaporate once the heat turns on.
So why are our diplomats not free to discuss the way the US & UK governments are killing their own people in a silly war in Iraq? Must we be so addicted to colonialism that we allow foreigners to do in Zambia what they dont want us to do at their home? Zambia, its time to wake up. We continue to fail to develop because we allow other people to run our affairs. These diplomats come from developed countries and they dont allow us to run their affairs.
Mwelesa chachine Mulibaluse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world is dynamic as some would say, but the fact is have the international protocols (Geneva Conventions) changed to allow diplomats to comment on internal matters of a sovereign state? It is only in Zambia where diplomats enjoy that unwritten right. Can a Zambian diplomats make comments on what the UK OR INDEED UNCLE SAM SAYS in the name of dynamism of world affairs? You guys give credit where its due.Uncle VJ maybe wrong on most issues but not on this one.
I agree with Gershom Musonda on diplomats who are using the Post to attack Govt policies. All these point to weakness in our Foreign policy. What is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs doing. The diplomats accreduted to Zambia have access to GRZ . Mwaanga ‘s observations should be taken seriously otherwise these pipo are up to no good. One day these pipo will cause anarchy and when that happens there will be no where to channel their aid. We deserve some degree of respect. Last time its was a French diplomat critising GRZ and its good he was recalled by Paris. Ministry of Foreign Affairs please do something to correct the situation before it gets out of hand.
I would edge your organisation to read more on stakeholder analysis because your comments are from an ignorant person.
One one Hand u want them to help you with MOH Funds on another u say to hell
Gershom musonda is just another job sicker. By the way what type of membership and what type of people belongs to these useless organisations if at all there is any?
In a Democractic Country, you have to channel your voice through media so that all the people can understand what is happening, days are gone where you could hide from the locals that can not read and write
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