Sorry for power disruption during SADC summit

1. A lizzard, caused power failure, you got to be joking. As a matter of fact Zesco is a joke. The organisers of the summit are clowns. How do you host such an event without taking all the necessary precautions? And we are busy talking about hosting the all African Games.Failure , failure and embarassment is on the way

2. Very embarassing! we now have more questions than answers.How really how in the world can such a thing happen dont we have stand by generators? Wasnt it Sisala who said Mulungushi has three Generators??? Ba Zesco sure , for this Sisala should be fired.we r tired with the level of incompetence….

3. Ya’all trolling,
   I understand your limitations in the virtually bipolar world full of imbalances. I take no time to disclaim your share of the Veteran ID when you are completely out of issues to insult the Head of state, those who push diversity and indeed the elite brotherhood.
   Ya’ all free to paste as much as you can under the Veteran ID considering that the Vanguard have the necessary leverage to confirm your desperation and kills challenges. I have no doubt that Ba Bonie treasures that measure of ignorance on the blog.
   After some good 30 hours plus of my time off the blogs except the last counsel made to our naturally premature Chapi on constitutional office bearers, let me not interfere with the threads you have shown such labor of pasting during my busy time on issues that matter in life. The only question is why you are wasting your time dressing me up the dignity beyond my measure ba Mudala ba Pragmatist carries? There is a clear dichotomy to understand in our respective values except shared patriotism. I’m a FT and never pragmatic to be a pragmatist.
   Now let me get back to our premature Chapi.

4. Chapi,
   Can you see that a thugs clubs only produce thugs and not leaders? A club headed by a thug, has thugs and thrives on thuggerly. Now explain this thuggerly your PF thugs are revealing in the house.

   PF MPS IN NEAR PUNCH-UP

   THERE was near pandemonium in Parliament last evening when Roan member of Parliament Chishimba Kambwili (PF) and his Nchanga counterpart Charles Chimumbwa (PF) almost exchanged blows but quick action by the sergeant at arms restrained the two.
   This was after Mr Chimumbwa absconded from voting when the House reached a division over the Anti-Terrorism Bill.The opposition lost the vote to the ruling MMD which garnered 56 against 48.“Go and tell the PF president that Chimumbwa has refused to vote,” Mr Chimumbwa said.
   Mr Chimumbwa together with Livingstone MP Sakwiba Sikota (ULP) Malole MP Emmanuel Munaile (Independent), Charles Milupi (Independent) and Milanzi MP Chosani Njobvu (UNIP) absconded.
   When time to vote came, Mr Kambwili pleaded with Mr Chimumbwa that he joins his colleagues but the latter said that PF members were free to inform their party president, Michael Sata that he would not vote with the rest.
   Even the chairman of the committee on National Security and Foreign Affairs, Bernard Chisha (PF) voted against the recommendations of his committee.
   Dr Chisha who looked undecided voted against his own committee probably for fear of being criticised by his party.The Bill comes to committee stage today.
   Meanwhile the Government will not privatise Indeni Oil Refinery but recapitalise it by inviting an equity partner to take up 30 per cent of the company shareholding.The Government and Total oil have agreed a total investment of US$65million for the recapitalisation of the refinery plant.
   During the next general shut down the refinery would be revalued after which an equity partner would be invited.Energy and Water Development deputy Minister, Gaston Sichilima told Parliament yesterday that the refinery was currently owned by the Government and Total Oil.
   Mr Sichilima was answering a question from Gwembe Member of Parliament Brian Ntundu who wanted to know whether there were any plans to privatise the plant and how much money the Government was putting in (on average) to subsidise it annually.
   Mr Sichilima said the Government did not subsidise the operations of Indeni but the two shareholders were currently making plans to recapitalise the refinery following the legal, financial and technical audit carried out to determine measures that would improve its performance and efficiency.

5. An apology is not enough,does the Govt spokesman realise how much embarassment this has caused the nation? The media is having a field day here in RSA i can imagine the world over.Someone must be fired.The chief organiser must take responsibility and resign, the head of ZESCO must be fired, the manager of the conference centre must be tried in the courts of law for negligence.We need as Zambians start taking up responsibilities for our action or lack of it.

6. The blackout was a security risk to the heads of states.It could be a conspiracy to commit a crime.Someone has to be charged with a case.It is sad to note that after 43 years of independence we cant even host an event.The excuse of a lizard should not even be entertained.We are an embarassment to our selves and we should walk with shame as a nation

7. Okay… I am actually very surprised that our government thinks the leaders of foreign countries deserve ‘unreserved’ apologies for such a hiccup. What about the people of Zambia, that are always affected by these same powercuts? What about the babies that die in incubators? What about all the food that is lost from such powercuts? The list goes on… In short they don’t owe us anything! This has to change, ladies and gentlemen. It is small things, such as these, that leads to selfish actions (done with impunity…)

8. If the Country did not have the capacity to host the summit,we should have asked for help from South Africa who have the experience to host international events.We embarrased ourselves by failing to plan properly and putting contigent plans in place.Surely someone has to be accountable for this.Let us not find excuses for what happened the truth of the matter is we should have put a just in case scenario in place.A summit like this should have had a manager who could have ate,slept dreamt and lived the summit, he should have looked at all possible scenarios and countered them.God knows how many other embarrasing things the head of states have witnessed since they arrived.We beg the Govt not to attempt to host the All Africa games.We should pass on the chance to another country before we embarrass our selves again.We are the oldest country in the region yet we are the most disorganised and we bag the most clowns

9. Sisala must be fired for two simple reasons. The obvious one first

   1. For causing the whole nation, me inclusive, such an embarrassment.

   2. Secondly, for telling an embarrassing truth. How do you tell the whole world a lizard was the cause even if its true?

10. onezambia one zesco

11. What an embarassment.The dignitaries were put at risk,the country’s reputation tarnished. The govt has downplayed the incident but in reality this is huge.I concur with # 5 Zambia’s reputation abroad epsecially in the media has been severly tarnished.What sort of technology are we applying? The principle is the easiest to apply.Somebody should have tried the system to see if it was responding. putting a system in place is one thing but making sure it works is another. Some one ought to honor up and take responsibility. Mr Minister your apology should go beyond just saying sorry.

12. One day we are having the same problem in my country Kazakistan, but nobody believe me!

13. 4 MINUTES OF SHAME, Starring the Lizard, co- starring Sisala as the incompetent bastard,Mulongoti as the show Clown also featuring Bob Mugabe as the joker of the summit.

    Attended by Talking shop experts

    Directed by LPM (the vegetable)

    Movie was shot at MICC.

    down played by the Zambian media but has won air play world over.

    EMBARASSMENT IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT, 4 MINUTES OF SHAME ONLY IN ZAMBIA

14. The MICC incident at worst is regrettable and deserves a strong exception from all that shares pride on Zambia. Whatever the explanations coming up, the incidence is unacceptable and a cause for some detailed work that should immediately help the authority capture the real failures at hand. We have to make some deep reflection and find lasting solution.
    Ladies and Gentlemen who have been entrusted to manage ZESCO on behalf Zambians, you have lamentably failed GRZ and the people Zambians that entrusted you. Your approach to the SADC Regional summit has cut into our pride and any trust. Be it the distribution manager, Chief Engineers or those in the Directorate, your approach has proved too casual and simplistic in responsibility. ZESCO generates some good revenue from both the export and local distribution accounts. You have had more than enough time to prepare for this landmark summit.
    Where has the emergency power systems ZESCO has had gone to for such a thing to happen in our time of emerse technology? How could engineers opt for a standby generator when they fully know that such a provision does not provide protection from a momentary power interruption but result in an interruption when it is switched into service, manually or automatically. If they meant well, and are of pure minds why didn’t they place the standby generator before the UPS to provide cover for lengthy outages? while maintaining a continuous supply of the needed utility electric power to MICC ?
    Where were the OP in the whole SADC summit preparations? How much “who is who” detailling did they deatail? Which engineers where dedicated to the Summit? Something is seriously wrong in the whole incidence. The details whole bring and end to the inconviencies businesses and the people have suffered at the hands of ZESCO. I think its time to have some clear national energy policies with legal frameworks that will come some strict responsibilities if we have to end such detrimental developments.

15. The MICC incident at worst is regrettable and deserves a strong exception from all that shares pride on Zambia. Whatever the explanations coming up, the incidence is unacceptable and a cause for some detailed work that should immediately help the authority capture the real failures at hand. We have to make some deep reflection and find lasting solution.
    Ladies and Gentlemen who have been entrusted to manage ZESCO on behalf Zambians, you have lamentably failed GRZ and the people Zambians that entrusted you. Your approach to the SADC Regional summit has cut into our pride and any trust. Be it the distribution manager, Chief Engineers or those in the Directorate, your approach has proved too casual and simplistic in responsibility. ZESCO generates some good revenue from both the export and local distribution accounts. You have had more than enough time to prepare for this landmark summit.
    Where has the emergency power systems ZESCO has had gone to for such a thing to happen in our time of immerse technology? How could engineers opt for a standby generator when they fully know that such a provision does not provide protection from a momentary power interruption but result in an interruption when it is switched into service manually or automatically. If they meant well, and are of “pure minds” why didn’t they place the standby generator before the UPS to provide cover for lengthy outages while maintaining a continuous supply of the needed utility power to the entire MICC?
    Where were the OP in the whole SADC summit preparations? How much “who is who” detailing did they detail? Which engineers where dedicated to the Summit?
    Something is seriously wrong in the whole incidence. The details should bring an end to the inconveniences businesses and the people have suffered at the hands of ZESCO. I think its time to have some clear national energy policies with legal frameworks that will come with some costly responsibilities if we have to end such detrimental developments.
    Economist, policy analysts and engineers, the regrettable incident offers us a Golden opportunity to open up a sustainable debate. In good faith that could foster the national energy policy in view of the distressing demographic alterations across the SADC region in the recent years.

16. There you have it! Any doubt about who to vote for in 2011? The lizard! For 4 minutes he/she was in control of proceedings (or lack of them) @ MICC – in effect, the control of the most powerful men of the 14-member SADC grouping.

    No wonder KK used to pick Hyenas, Lizards and the like for presidential election opponents!

    It will be a surprise if no one is fired @ Zesco.

17. Big hand for the oasis for calling off the demo, the shame we have suffered caulsed by sisala could have been pushed on them. so what should we ssy for the shame caused by sisala? Levy’s rule is full of internatioal, global let downs. supposing mugabe orany head of state was killed, or even hurt, zambians would have not been forgiven. can the supporters of levy talk to me, on this shameful matter, please.

18. And we intend to host the 2011 All Africa Games!!! The worst is yet to come.

19. Any idea on what the student’s essay was on? The blackout may have been a conspirancy to disturb her message to the summit and the world at large about Bob…just a thought!

20. #13, you get total pa total for such a wonderful summary of the situation.

21. agree about the need for planning. In the 1980s I heard a true statement which said that ‘If you fail to plan, you plan to fail’. This is exactly what happened to ZESCO. Did they test their standby generator to see how long it was going to take to bring back power supply in the event of a power outage? What we need is heads to roll at Zesco and in the corridors of the event planners. We need competent ones.

22. A lizard!!! Malinso,crocodile,gumugumu,Blue head? you guys gota be kidding me??? What sin did we commit us Zambians, such that whatever we want to do, it ends up bad? I mean let us be serious. something is wrong in our country and please do not defend it. Let us face it. Thats when we will solve the problem. There is no way that everyday there are power cuts and yet we expect when we host heads of states power cuts won’t be there? No!! it does not work like that. A country needs to be constantly progressing with its development. You cannot develop in a week or a day. So let us not be very surprised that we have embarrassed ourselves No we haven’t this is how Zambia is (let me say how they are).Not until something is done this kind of life will always be normal to us. And it all goes back to the poor quality leadership skills we have. These guys always make wrong decisions. Malinsooooo zoona????

23. #19 Hapilo bring the essay here so that we can analyse it.Conspiracy ho this is a deliberate move by zesco they are tired they want on pension. Remember Zambia hosted the AU and no such scandals happened.

24. Abash Sisala!!! Mwawaa ba monko!!!! This simply shows how terrible and dire need ZESCO has become. May be we should consider Robson Mwansa back as MD what do you think? Even if his hands are not clean with plunder power was not being interupted like this. Twala chi VIvula !!!!!

    Hamazongo

25. Where is Robson Mwansa, why did they retire him even when he was doing a good job? Am sorry, ZESCO and not our national team, needs an Expatriate aikona iyi mbushi bailetola ku CEC. Imagine, he doesn’t even know when the blackouts will be over. We’ve asked too much from him, hes had never headed a big company before joining ZESCO, Robson did.

26. The only thing standing between Sisala and being fired is the FAMILY TREE.

27. Fire Sisala,and find that lizard. The embarassment is too much to bear. Something has got to give

28. We need to cut this so called ‘FAMILY TREE’ to pave way for develepment.

29. We need to cut this so called ‘FAMILY TREE’ to pave way for development.

30. Wat is this family tree? So relatives of Zambians should not work in Zambia. What are daughters and sons of Kaunda doing are they employed somewhere in in Zambia. How about FTJ with is children he funded from Zamtrop. We need there services they have to pay back. One Zambia One nation

31. Sisala has got no shame let alone integrity. In the west failures like him resign as soon as they realise they are not up to it. The bastard is so annoying.

32. #26 Chapi if I can remember you mentioned one time that Kaunda deported you. What did you do? Zambia has only 4 deportees or refugees namely Hamaundu E, a lawyer who represented Edward Shamwana, John Milner, others over attempted couple in 1980. Chifubu Banda deported by FTJ to Malawi, Xvaier Chungu who hiding from his atrocities, Shashonga a run away dieb now in UK. You said you want to invest in Zambia how will make it when you do have Zambian status. Can you explain so that you can get help.

33. Ati a Lizard ungaseke, a malinso disrupting power….

34. #32.EASY.Your memory has completely failled you.

35. #30 Easy dont bring unnecessarry debate about the family, if you dont know what it is, go to hell! Tell me what has Sisala done for the years hes been the boss at ZESCO, nothing. Under Robson Mwansa Zesco was doing relatively well, results where there to be seen by normal rational people. And know what, hes was able to perform because he was appointed on merit and not on family tree basis.

36. #30.EASY.Stop this rot of supporting inefficiency.Sisala has proved how incompetent he is and there`s no need to be protecting and defending such failure.

37. #30 EASY…NEPOTISM is defined as the unfair practice in which people in power(LPM)give positions in gov or organisation(ZESCO) to their relatives(SISALA) or friends,rather than any individual who is well qualified.This can lead to ineffieciecy(blackouts)in the functioning of gov or organisation,since hiring is based on personal connections rather than ability or merit.

38. Chapi and EASY… When events of such magnitude are being organized there are commitees put in place to over see the preparations. This may include Sadc officials ,Plot 1 , Shushushu, Ministry of foreign affairs,police and may be ZESCO. So to put the blame on ZESCO only its unfaire. Technical difficulties always happen. Thats why we prepare for the possibility. ZESCO being the power company is responsible for the supply of power to the event. But ZESCO can not guarantee that there will be a steady supply. for argument sake. supposed a truck hit a an electric pole on Katima mulilo road that connects electricity to mulungushi conf center. The result is a power outage. I dont think its ZESCO’s job to plan for that. Its the vent organizers to plan for that. You should be asking the SADC secretary general to resign and not Sisala. The sage boarders on poor planning. Sisala was not the event protocal officer. Lts try to understand how these events are planned and who is responsible for what.

39. #36/37 Chapi Iam not promoting nepotism my question is are relatives of those serving in power not supported to work in Zambia. Of course qualifications are the key to get any position. #35 dont be sick I just to know what are children and relatives of leaders are doing in Zambia.

40. #38.Sage…Take time to read #14 PRAGMATIST`s comments.

41. i dont know him

42. # Chapi what profession are you have ever heard about the words organization and Planning? Do some project management to understand how things work. Of late you have be calling for resignation of anyone who find wanting or commiting a mistake. Chapi are you so perfect that you dont make mistakes. Based on the agurments lt brings without having details is very dangerous. Sage its good to refer Chapi to Pragmstist instead of Hills Hos.

43. #39 You’re calling me sick, whos more sick between you and me. Look at your contributions, you’re so incoherent like the late chama chakomboka-MHSRIP. NO please i dont want to argue with a sycho like yourself. Dont reply.

44. #42.EASY.Are aware that in Zambia blackouts are the order of the day?Don`t you think that it`s a reasonable request that the citizenry are entitled to a continous supply of electricity.What happened at MICC just exposed the existing problems at ZESCO and when people are calling for change it`s something that they deserve.So young man, don`t start lecturing me about things that are beyond your scope.

45. #40 Chapi i have read pragmatists posting. And i do know that blackouts are the order of the day. But i also know that organizing for an event like sadc takes years. This all issue is about poor planing on the part of the organizers failure to put measures in place to mitigate both human and natural disasters. I REPEAT its not ZESCOs job to put a stand by generator for the conference. Its the duty and responsibility of the organizers. And if protocal is followed it should be the Secretary general of SADC. I’m in IT i preside over 40 business servers with about 1000 work stations. I plan for the power failures and put a contigency plan in place. If there is a power failure the ups kicks in to prevent my servers from crashing. Although in the last 4 years we have never had a power failure i still maintain those UPS just in case. Its not the job of the power company to put such measures in place. Its SADCs job. I still say GIVE SISALA A BREAK on this one.

46. #44 Ba chapi, EASY in bemba is a ‘munshebwa uwaile na mashinsha’. Personally i dont like people like him who just argue with their thinking caps off. He’s so disgusting.

47. # 40

    All animals are equal and when power cuts, its effect must be random like a non selective glamocine. Even if they say every man has a price but it’s priceless when it comes to ZESCO. Truly speaking had it been Zim every crouches from Noth, East, West and South could have taken it with mixed feelings calling Zim names and its Zambia and the shift of blame goes to Kolyokolyo (lizard) and when you sit down in deep thoughts comes a transformation of that Kolyokolyo with a human face of Chuchu. Indeed the blame must be levelled entirely on the Zedian Head of The State, wemusebanya ulakula. Chuchu thought he had won the war over the Oasis but the members of Oasis are all over Zambia starting from Watch Tower up to Red Bricks. Wait, more is yet to come.

48. posting #47 is from Ba Joze

49. Easy

    Mwaice Easy bushe amalaiti ngayaya munganda and akatolitoli takali pa stand by bushe kuti wa blama ba ZESCO for not putting akatolitoli mu vicinity? Knowing you Easy you shift the blame on your yaya. At lamya house and other Telecom stations they have stand by boosters that use diesel and are operated by pipo working within those premises. Easy just accept ati natusebana kale pamulandu wa Kolyokolyo… By the way do you know kolyokolyo? Simple algebra: Chuchu = Kolyokolyo
    (from ba Joze)

50. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha kuti waseka!!! #46 I see you you are putting on a shirt with only a colar an indication of a true bemba who cant argue but insult. Why dont just bring your views like chapi.

51. Hey EASY i’m also Bemba.. so whatch out(joking) When insulted just remeber our policy “Ignore the morons” respond to those making sense. or jenuinely trying to contribute.

52. Pls dont make this fora as ring for paunches. We have Veteran Vs Chapi, Joze & co Vs Pragmatist, HK Vs AM, now Easy Vs mala – msana wandalama.

    Tonga bull where are u to come stop the fights. Mukulu SAGE lets do something to stop fights

53. # 25,
    Incase you don’t know, mbwelela nuna ilalya. Robinson Mwansa is not the panacea or alpha and omega to the Zambian energy gaps. I hope you know much about Mwansa’s time at the helm of ZESCO. Certainly, the guy is a prolific Manager but a highly compromised character. He managed to restructure ZESCO but largely betrayed it. Do you know why his million dollar farm had a more 25 hectares maize field burnt in 1998 by ZESCO employees? Mwansa’s long stay at ZESCO turned into his failing of both ZESCO employees and Zambians that entrusted him with ZESCO.

    On Sisala, the man is highly qualified both academically and experience. He has a compelling work record having head and turned Copperbelt energy into a successful investment. Thus, bring up tribal links is preposterously baseless and failure to debate with sincerity. The ZESCO problems are beyond an individual. Our Corporate culture is no issue to overlook. There is need for a paradigm shift in the way we all do things as Zambians. Casual and Simplistic approach has been hurting us for too long. Our debates here are such failures we need to overcome.

54. On the MICC incidence, I repeat the OOP (SD) and ZESCO management were the two partners supposed to mutually handle detailed operations from start to finish with validated contingency plans. The incidence brings Government serious Questions rather cheap rhetoric of tribalism. There is absolutely nothing wrong to have qualified Zambians from the President’s family to show interest in open national job opportunities.

55. Chiluba had a lot of his tribesmen and relative relatives among them the likes of Mr. Mushinge from ZESCO who irregularly was given a very sensitive position in this country’s institutions. That move, I will never forget. It was until the Mwanawasa administration reversed it, the move was damaging to professionalism. KK had Wezi and the Bandas into Government. Sisala irrespective of his tribe is competitively qualified. That drives me to the same issues I have remarked in post # 15.

56. The whole ZESCO service approach to the Summit has proved too casual and simplistic in responsibility. ZESCO generates some good revenue from both the export and local distribution accounts. You have had more than enough time to prepare for this landmark summit.
    Where has the emergency power systems ZESCO has had gone to for such a thing to happen in our time of immerse technology? How could engineers opt for a standby generator when they fully know that such a provision does not provide protection from

57. Pragmatist Mwansa still remains one of the best MD Zesco has ever produced. You are saying akabwelelo kalalya that is not true, Good examples are Police Mateyo & Sasasali were retirees,etc they have done recommendable jobs. Mwansa helped the govt to pay salaries for civil servants when MD for Zesco.Why should you just contribute on what is happening comparing Chiluba & levy for neptilism is lack of foresight to move towards employing pipo who are qualified in different sectors. If chiluba was wrong why should we continue to live in the past and not in at present and in future?

58. Mbozi (57),
    In the absence of moral credence, mbwelela numa ilalya. IG Mateyo has a strong record of a selfless service to our country with indisputable honor and devotion over 28 years.He is not in the compromised class of the likes of former IG Francis NJobvu and Robinson Mwansa of this world. only under such choices is renewal is the perfect option. It synergises rather than accelarate impunity. Retiring Mwansa was the in the best national interest.

59. Kwena Zona, I don’t understand how zed operates.Bushe why can’t the gov’t just put solar panels on the roofs of MICC, State house, all hospitals, schools, chiefs palaces and other public places like bus stations? We have plenty of sunshine at 3/4 of the year.Solar power is good for the environment bcoz solar is renewable free energy.Zesco is going to be sold soon any way, we might as well go solar. In fact we can even use some spare spaces around the country esp in sandy areas to build energy banks to store power generated from solar sources which we can then export to the rest of southern africa.Europe has started turning the sahara desert into a mega solar energy bank by placing huge panels to generate energy from the sun which will then be channelled to europe during the winters seasons. This is expected to reduce energy costs in the EU and increase the use of renewable energy. Why can’t we do the same for southern africa by asking the chinese to start making solar panels locally?

60. #59 kwena zoona walanda Chibubabe solar is not only newable energy but enviromental friendly due to global warming. Zed need the new constitution which must enacted to sold such problems. You can imagine the worlds largest export of Solar is Ireland a place the sun shines just for a few hours a year. The problem is Zambians are afraid of change. Ok Chapi bafileka that boy is bitter because uncle was forced out of employment. We need ideas, sure solar energy could be an alternative. Someone mentioned some good points about the effect of load shedding by zesco. Imagine you bought fresh food stuffs like milk, meat, butter and the Refrigerator can not get power. I remember this problem is Africa wide in Ghana, Nigeria and Uganda its even worse.

61. Chapi which firm constructed the ZESCO power lines from Kariba to the Mines in CB???

62. Help my father go for medical treatment abroad

    Serenje, August 17, 2007, ZANIS—A resident of Lusiwasi area in Chieftainess Serenje in Serenje is appealing to government to help take his 70 year old father for medical treatment abroad. Mr. Moses Mupeta made the appeal through ZANIS in Serenje today. Mupeta said his father Shadreck Kazembe, has been suffering from a painful pelvis for a year now. He said efforts to have him cured locally have failed. Mr. Mupeta said his father has been taken to Chitambo, Kabwe General Hospital and University Teaching Hospital but to no avail

63. OPPOSITION Patriotic Front (PF) Roan Member of Parliament (MP) Chishimba Kambwili was yesterday sent out of Parliament by Speaker Amusaa Mwanamwambwa for allegedly not being sober.
    The Speaker ordered Mr Kambwili to immediately leave the House and only come back when he was sober.
    He ordered the sergeant at-arms to escort Mr Kambwili out of the House.
    “I order Mr Kambwili to take leave of the House and only come back when he is sober,” the Speaker said.
    Mr Kambwili immediately stood up and left the House as the sergeant at-arms escorted him.
    He however, returned into the House after about 50 minutes.
    The order by the Speaker was made following various destructive commentaries in the House which were disturbing debate.
    On Wednesday Mr Kambwili and his Nchanga constituency counterpart Charles Chimumbwa (PF) almost exchanged blows after a quarrel and were only separated by the sergeant at-arms

64. Some of our MPs are a disgrace to the electorates. Manda hill is a dabating house and not a boxing ring. I will call Esther Phiiri to teach Kambwili a lesson in Boxing.

65. Chapi,
    Can you see what your thugs club has produced? A tree can only produce fruits of its own kind. Pf headed by a thug has continued producing thugs and not leaders? It is a thuggerly club headed by a thugs who thrive on thuggerly acts. Now explain this thuggerly your PF thugs are revealing in the house.

66. #65 Veteran….I think these guys are just immitating the MMD(Movement of Maffias and DEMAGOGUES).Katele,Mabenge,Mulyata,Chitoba and obviously your BOSS.That`s why I keep telling you that the solution is the new generation of politics unlike these RIFF RUFFS in whom instruments of power have been vested.I wonder why you even call these morons as “Honourables”

67. Ba USA mwa inuka nomba te, as much as in a narrow way people like pradmatist want to heap the blame on Sisala, I dont think its Zesco’s responsibility to plan for Sadc. There is a committee that is supposed to manage the whole project. ZESCO is just one of the companies that was contracted to supply electricity. In the event of failure the organizing committee should have put contingencies in place to mitigate the problem. There is alot of issues ranging from water, electricity to transportation. Maybe MICC doesnt even have a bore hole. If for instance a water pipe connecting MICC to LWS bursts you cant blame LWS for that. MICC should have alternativ sources of water. The issue here is planning and effective project management. Issues like power failure and water cuts happen even in the west but you never hear of them because there are contingencies in place. Its like having only one car for the delegates. Are you going to blame mercedes if it doesnt start? Lets try to objective.

68. EASY naiwe wayamba copy and paste.

69. #65 Veteran Sata ni chibomba milimo he is not a thug. I would appreciate if you called him mposa mabwe. remember that you would still be under the queens rule if it wasnt for ba Mposa mabwe. Show some respect to the old man. If it wasnt for him LPM could have turned Z into what it used to under KK when we livd like prisoners in our own land.

70. #65.SAGE…Wamona umunobe uwaikele mu DIASPORA(Kambwili) efyo alechita behave.Kwena ebufontini ubu alechita display.

71. Ewe SAGE (67),
    Sages are supposed to be sagacious people but what’s wrong with you in # 67? I challenge to cite from my pieces here where I have indicated that the Zesco MD a Mr. Sisala is culprit. Do you traverse the blog during some late night extra to miss my non cryptic remarks? I know we are in blogs playing around but some issues deserve some serious focus. I’m not being politically correct considering that am open to a little meandering, inductive rather than deductive, and impressionistic rather than precise in debates. But give room to truth. Below are my remarks as reflected in the pieces herein # 54 & 53 pieces:

    Pragmatist (54)
    On the MICC incidence I repeat, the OOP (SD) and ZESCO management were the two partners supposed to mutually handle detailed operations –whole process management from start to finish with validated contingency plans.
    The incidence brings Government serious Questions than the cheap rhetoric of tribalism spammed here. There is absolutely nothing wrong to have qualified Zambians from the President’s tribe showing interest in open national job opportunities.

    Pragmatist (53)
    On Sisala, the man is highly qualified both academically and by experience. He has a compelling work record having headed and turned Copperbelt Energy into a successful investment. Thus, bringing up tribal links is preposterously baseless and proof of failure to debate with sincerity.
    The ZESCO problems are beyond an individual. Our Corporate culture is no issue to overlook. There is need for a paradigm shift in the way we all do things as Zambians. Casual and Simplistic approach has been hurting us for too long. Our debates here are such failures we need to overcome.
    I repeat “The ZESCO problems are beyond an individual”. Is this too much for you to comprehend than synthesizing distortions?

72. STOP ARGUING THE LOT OF YOU!!!

73. …..and on Zesco and the organizing party with their tasked Engineers I said; Where has the emergency power systems ZESCO had gone to for such a thing to happen in our time of immerse technology?

    How could engineers opt for a standby generator when they fully know that such a provision does not provide protection from a momentary power interruption but result in an interruption when it is switched into service manually or automatically?

    If they meant well, and are of “pure minds,” why didn’t they place the standby generator before the UPS to provide cover for lengthy outages while maintaining a continuous supply of the needed utility power to the entire MICC? Such a task is supposed to have validated contingency plans with zero tolerance error.

    The summit was very important to Zambia and indeed the SADC member countries. It was our rare opportunity for experts to prove their engineering and security service efficacy.

74. Personally I think the debate to find who is better, the current MD or the former MD of Zesco is not going to provide us with a long term solution. I would encourage the people of Zambia to seriously consider alternative renewable energy which in my opinion is solar power from the sun. Energy should not be a problem for Africa or at least solar energy because we have the sun at full blast 365 days.

    We should thank the creator for such consideration to Africa.

75. There are people in our chat room who don’t speak Bemba and they don’t understand the Bemba contributions. Can we have a separate Bemba forum so that this forum remains for english contributions. Otherwise, we need to use every other Zambian language on this forum.

    Solar power energy should certainly be something to invest in. I wonder whether the same lizard that ZESCO has blamed for the interruption could not have interrupted power at MICC if we had solar power there? Did they catch the lizard so that it does not disrupt power again? We need good planners.

76. As we seem to have exhausted this thread, thought might switch it to FTJ’s case – I thought the state were in a hurry to dispose of the case, but AG seems to have requested for a deferrment, seems he may have gone to consult Smith – I really took this to have been an open & shut case for the state, I think we may be in for a very long ride!!!

77. #76 bauze, these are what we call law tactics, the defence had timely requested for this to embarrass the incumbent head of state by having commotion during the SADC summit. Some face serving but it has not worked. I hope this case should be disposed soon however we need the money.

78. Nishi ba mutale imwe tamumfwa icibembe. The fact is bemba is understood by the majority of zambians regardless of the tribe or province one comes from. Bemba isn’t superior to other languages but only convenient. am not a tribalist, am a Zambian.

79. #75 Nishi ba mutale imwe tamumfwa icibembe. The fact is bemba is understood by the majority of zambians regardless of the tribe or province one comes from. Bemba isn’t superior to other languages but only convenient. am not a tribalist, am a Zambian.

80. #50 Easy

    Mwaice Easy, what’s that? Just learn to punch back once punched and avoid generalising. What has happen to your brains? What kind of erosion is taking place in your head? Elyo nomba wapwa mwaice kwati ci Pragmatist ici mwesha bola panuma and always talk about past issues. I think muka pragmatist aliba mucibe sana. Once she does something wrong, the man will be going on talking and talking of the past issues like “you remember bana pragmatist in 1970 when you cheated on me I forgave you but this time iyi cup mwatoba icupo kupwa”.

    Mwaice Easy who many times have you been told to rewrite your thesis? No one of your age can write “discuss about”. Who was your teacher? Limbi nici Pragmatist kuci Zongwe. Mwaice Easy just accept that mala – msana wandalama has a good point on ZESCO and tell abo ba Pragmatist to go and hung with his inapplicable theories.

81. #80 Ba Jose, if can read I was just answering the above #49. Anyway come 23 August we see how things will go.

82. Ba Jose are when you making a film about ba Kafupi? This must be very intersting believe. Bring moore to Zambia and make money

83. Ba Pragmatist check your coments at #14 and tell what your comment on paragraph 2 means maybe ta twaishiba ici sungu.

84. #81 you categorically said and i quote”hahahahahahahahahahahahaha kuti waseka!!! #46 I see you you are putting on a shirt with only a colar an indication of a true bemba who cant argue but insult. Why dont just bring your views like chapi”
    In in other words you said bembas are morons. This is very unlike you EASY. As much as i understand you were offended , i think you apologise to us the bembas.

85. #84 SAGE no apology I clearly indicate that one bemba not all bembas. Mind you Iam not a tribalist. Iam a true Zambians andI need your votes in 2011 I cant insult the whole clan God forbids. Now SAGE my question is opposition useless in Africa? No one has talked of ZESCO and its load shedding. Iam getting concerned. Finally if anyone feel offended by my sentiments I cast my apology.

86. #83 SAGE.You`re dealing with John Kerry`s friend the master of FLIP FLOPPING(PRAGMATIST).

87. #86 Chapi,I think he should chage his ID from Pragmatist to John Kerry….. Sometimes people forget that its human to make a mistake and then openly change your position if and when new info comes out.
    …In This regard we all know ZESCO is un reliable but to put the reponsibility of organizing SADC on them is not fair. the SG for SADC should be unswering these questions.

88. EASY .. what tribe are you?

89. #80 Thanks ba Jose,#87 you reckone its a lesson well learnt, maybe next time they bring a summit to lusaka, they should bring along electricians from south africa, botswana or namibia since we no longer have confidence in our own and you dont want us to square the blame on Zesco.

90. SAGE (83),
    My comments there are very simple to capture. Read the whole post instead of your piece meal approach. I refuse to individualize the problems at ZESCO but recognize the depth of the shortcomings. In the same vein, with nobility I refuse to buy our dizzied geriatric Chapi’s tribal hatred against Lambas and Lenjes over open national job opportunities.

    To him those qualified Zambians from the President’ tribes don’t deserve national considerations. I find that too myopic considering that like anybody else, they share Maslow hierarchy of needs and have contributed to the wellness of our beautiful and peace thriving Country.

    The regrettable MICC incidence and many such ZESCO shortcomings can never be individual or tribal issues unless one is a retard with difficulties to look through issues. I would never mount a vindictive battle or push against a tribe, employees or Mr.Sisala as some are doing here. My query over that flaw goes deeper than you would want to believe. Behind the cameras the organizing committee should start preparing to table some extenuating points. It is time for a lasting solution rather than face changes.

91. #PRAGMATIST dont tell me and others that Sisala is qualified to run ZESCO-his educational papers aside. Point at at least on postive thing that has been implmented since he assumed the kapoto, nothing. We never used to experience the kind of seamless blackouts that we’re having. Bembas say’ isabi ngalyatampa ukubola kuputulako umutwe’ Zesco is rotting and the head is still intact. The gentleman has no shame, hes seen hes failed but cant let go. Forget about tribalism and meaningless education with nothing to show for it. We need real pragmatic leaders(of course not you) result oriented, decision makers, full of insight and forsight to drive this country forward. Stop making excuses for him, hes an educated failure,period.

92. Chapi,
    Nobility calls for me to accommodate your challenges. I would be acting inhumanely if I expected anything beyond the taste of what you have put up here. In your own words you have labored to feed the cyber world two versions of contradictory testimonies that you a self imposed economic refuge in the USA while the other one say deported by GRZ. I don’t know which one could be admissible before the Fed officers. I really sympathize with your approach to life without wiping your sobs over the commerce hurdles these threads have sufficiently documented.

    Indeed I have seen the epicenter of your real life challenges though worsened by your approach of mounting unhealthful tribal hatred. At worst your ambitions are indisputably driven on it. That will fail you even more considering that it would never add to the national solution.

    On consistency, you have a non winnable battle to execute and drag me down on that path. My footprints are too vivid to question though a natural being with acceptable flaws but traditionally judicious in decision making rational. I never go with peer pressure or the mob psychology doing the sweeping among your buddies on the increasing cynicism. Popularist or feel good approaches are not for my taking in life but objectivity. Good luck as you gamble more.

93. Ba mala – msana wandalama,
    You have taken up a long assignment. Robinson Mwansa will never come back to ZESCO i mean never unless he could wait for such after 2020. Life is about continuous improvements. Those who have been retired on national interest are better off reforming in the private sector. While all you know as the panacea is Mwansa, the P Government have thousands of Resumes on files where the security could easily screen from before recommendations. If its our Presidents, they know a lot of people to entrust. Why don’t you form up a partnership with Mwansa and offer competition? If you have not put your children n to the act of future roles, i have mine building up the value.

94. Ha the war is on where is the problem came from? It due increaasingly mining industries which were not planned along. This where we should look for our solution.

95. #94.EASY.The solution to Zesco problems is to increase the power generation capacity to meet the huge demand.There`s so much economic activity taking place in Zambia and with that comes creation of industries that obviously need electricity to run.Like someone pointed out that the failure to plan is the plan to fail.If SISALA can`t strategise how to generate resourses for capital investment then obviously he`ll need to justify why he`s paid such huge sums of money.

96. Our so called opposition parties are not only toothless but also useless. They are founded on greed and are used by various tribal Zealots, who would create no impact on a national platform, to curve a niche for themselves. They therefore term them ‘my people’s bargaining platform. Some of these parties are so bogus that many of their owners cannot distinguish between mission and vision of the party such is my Party PF.I swear over my mother’s body, PF is a lifeless Ghost Party. It has betrayed my only hopes for instant economic gain the way Ma Mudimu Dimu foot soldier are. I have tried over the months to break ba Ma Mundimu Dimu using insele on chuchu and his cohorts. But my mad witch Doctor Chi shi chilufya Sata is busy idolizing Mugabe at the expene of the party.
    Abash Satanyong’o, viva abesu ku nkana uko ba Hon. Chimumbwa.

97. #93 PRAGMATIST, what about mwansa, read my contribution#91 one more time.

98. This article is from Anthony M. Musonda (PhD), UNZA
    For as long as we are not able to interrogate the lizard that is alleged to have leisurely crawled into the UNZA power substation and caused that brief power outage at the SADC heads of state meeting and seemingly stole the limelight from the newly anointed SADC chairman, Levy Mwanawasa, we shall not probably be able to know what caused that power outage. Human beings have lived next to lizards from time immemorial.
    And if each time a lizard found its way into a power substation there was a power failure, we would have had more of similar power failures .One just wonders whether it is because lizards have become more intrusive than before or something else that a lizard can now cause a power failure. Or, could this be a case of humans making the poor reptile a scapegoat for their deliberate mistakes or sins of omission in the discharge of their duties! If so, is this how far public companies can go in refusing to own up

99. #96 Ba Joze you are becoming namakwekwe nishi kula jupa jupa from one end to another. I told you there is no return on ZIM we shall allow Bush and Blair to bring back colonial rule.

100. Easy,
     You are on the money! ka chushi (96) elyo kapenafye nomba nefyamba fyakwa mulenga Kitwes. Wamona naiwe kale denouncer ba Presido ba Sata over the 10 pieces of silver he has failed to make pa inters. Ala nikashimakwenkwe kamunthu akakwena. Taka cishiba bwino chimudala ci Veteran na MMD yakwe pamakwebo. Nakabili nipanshi iyaloba.

101. #96.Have the courage to use your own ID unlike impersonating Ba Joze.We don`t condone illegal activities on this blog.Don`t be scared of your own shadow but have the guts to own up and make a stand on what you believe.

102. #96. You need to create you own ID whats yo problem. We know how ba Joze comes out….!

103. #95 Chapi Over excitement kills when the mines started booming many planers forgot to check how other sectors were performing. Recently the president went to visit Solwezi and wat he saw worried him so much. Solwezi was turning into another Shanti Compound. There is need for Town Planing. Chapi and SAGE plus KUKU you were at either UNZA or CB are such subjects being taught? You know they say wisdow starts at home. If pipo who went thru these institution were not given this knowledge there is no way they can implement such plans. hence Chapi you your failure to plan is the plan to fail becomes visible. Look at all the cities and towns in Zambia most residential decent areas were built before Independence. There was not planing for low cost houses. These goes for Water ánd Seweage system if you look at the compounds the kind of toilets they have no wonder cholera breaks out.You can imagine in sanitation was increase what that means in terms of profiits for the councils, Seweage firms

104. #90 Pragmatist , well now that we are on the same page regarding the SADC saga , lets move on. My trying to isolate the SADC issue from ZESCO shouldnt in any way be construed as approval or support for ZESCO’s ineptitude. We all know that Mr Sisala is a well qualified and experienced engneer. However , his legacy at ZESCO will not be judged by degrees or years of experience but by his positive imput and inovation. ZESCO today could be the best and most profitable utility company in sab sahara africa if Mr Sisala and his cohorts could just step back and do a complete analysis of ZESCO capacity V demand. when you look arround DRC ,TZ,Bots ,ZIM ,Malawi everybody is counting on ZESCO for their power needs. Yet we cant even meet local demand. ZESCO is operating at 1986 capacity yet the demand has grown astronomically. Surelly Mr Sisala is qualified but thus far he hasnt shown us what he is worth. If ZESCO was a private company i dont think he would still be there. CTN

105. The problem at zesco is not an isolated incident. The same trend can be traced in Zambian monopoly companies. and i will site a few , LWS,ZAMTEL,Chilanga, Zambia sugar, Nitrogen chemicals in chilanga and the list goes on. Make no mistake these companies are headed by PHD and MBAs so if they are so qualified yet cant do simple planing what is the problem? Something is fundamentally wrong some where. 2 years ago GRZ paid Nitorgen chemicals or what ever its called now $20,000.000.00 to produce fertalizer. Do you know what Dr Kalima did MHSRIP , he went and bought fertalizer from RSA. Now this is a PHD holder. So the issue is not qualifications. The are qualified incompetent people.

106. Gentlemen,dont break your spines on blaming Sisala,Pragmatist mwaice well done for your well written arguements.Whatever happened at MICC cannot be directly attributable to Sisala,the whole postmortem must be done on the Project team that was commissioned to oversee the operation of the standby and additional generators to MICC.Gentlemen in real management you dont expect the entire CEO to be involved in everything that is MICRO MANAGING which has no place current management styles.The stick must be stretched on the Project team, to look how well they tested the system on its efficacy and its viability.What I can see these boys did not test the system for any possible failures.Sisala must not be condemned at all.The dept involved must pay for their sins and that is what management and leadership is all about.Mwaice Mala msana wanzili dont micro manage wherever you will be a CEO otherwise you gonna fall like Chuchu who is always micro managing , look at his fight into corruption,

107. #106 Posted by me Kuku Mukwai

108. #103 EASY.I agree with both you and LPM on the issue and need of planning by the Councils and various companies such as ZESCO.No one can deny the fact that there`s an economic boom in Zambia and as such the need to harness this opportunity by properly planning to maximise and reap full benefits.There`s been a boom in the construction industry but structures are being setup without the general outlook of particular cities in mind.In South Africa(JO`BURG) when they were faced with similar challeges deconjection of the city centre(HIBROW/DOWNTOWN) was key and hence creation of various suburbs such Sandton,Morningside,Midrand and many others.If you take Lusaka for example,there`s no need for people to be scrambling for plots in places like Kabulonga when there`s so much land in outlying areas.No need for Lusaka and Kafue to be seperated by the bush.You go to Solwezi,it`s becoming like a big compound just like LPM observed.We need to therefore put up our socks and do a better job.

109. #103 Mwaice Easy tell me which town has done adequate town planning other than the organised Mine Township on the copper belt? The capital is in a mess, if you are driving from Kafue To Lusaka all you see are disgusting structures of Misisi and John Lengi,Kwacha compound in chilanga, drive onto North Road all you get are Chaisa, Mandevu, everywhere you go there shanties why?KK your uncle is the major culprit into these weird structures because he allowed it in the name of party cadres.Look at the Kamwala shopping complex,the Lebanese use plans from Kirklit and bring them to Zambia and your Local council just accept.Corruption mwaice ibi sana that is why when I assume power hopefully after 2011, we shall take the bull by its horns, we need to clean the towns with force but we shall look for money to resettle them, since SADC will start operating like EU, and they will be cheap money for reconstruction.Degrees and wisdom and natural intelligence are miles apart implicitly or explicitly.

110. #106.KUKU.Welcome back.I wish to strongly disagree with you in that the buck always stops at the top dog and in this case it`s SISALA.I think the general outrage isn`t just particularly about the single incident at MICC but the overal performance of ZESCO.These blackouts seem to be the order of the day and the CEO has no clue on how to put an end to this quagmire.If you`re running a corporate firm and one of the treasuring managers makes a costly blunder in terms of investment.You`ll not just ask that particualr manager to be answerable but the top dog who let such a thing happen under his watch.

111. #110.I meant Treasury managers

112. #110 I refering to the MICC incident but as for the entire Zesco we had a heated debate on one of the blogs when Konga fired the entire board and my view on this issue was to fire Sisala as well and use consultancy firms to place the board and the CEO.Go in the archives and see how well that topic was well discussed on.
     Of course Sisala will report on the incident but that doesnot mean he will be directly punished,NO.Zambia has held high profile conferences like ICASA,AU and non aligned movement so such forums are not new to our country.This reminds me about the recent visit of the UN chief to Iraq and the bombings that occured in the green zone,things happen for a reason,Sisala now knows how rotten his managers are including himself,the problems at Zesco are immense which collaborative solutions

113. #110 what is happening at Zesco needs a frontal attack like what is happening in the world stock market.Central banks have poured in millions to counter the problems,EU Bank,etc if SADC was really that aptitude Zesco could not have been in the quagmire it is in today cos it would have benefited greatly from the regional collective expertise like ESCOM etc sometimes you learn by extension

114. #112.Your point is taken that Zesco under SISALA is in a mess and needs to improve.

115. #114 Zesco has 2 components namely Generation and Distribution and its a question of disecting where the source of the problems are emnating from.Kariba North Bank functions as an independent company which is in charge of Generation and Konga was director of Distribution so he understands his firm better and is best suited to tell our nation where the inefficiencies are, have you seen the world bank report on commercialization of Zesco? It beats me to note that what is contained in that report, Zambians were unable to do it and had to rely on chaps to give us the solutions.Have stoped thinking as Zambians or we are afraid to think and devise systems? Chapi its very embarrassing what is obtaining in our land.

116. Chapi ,I support the quick implementation of the Regional Integration Strategic Development Plan (RISDP) to start FTA.With total commitement this can be like our collegues in the East who have harnessed their economy and their shilling is that strong that you fail to get the real benefit of going there with your covertible currencies.Even Zesco limbi kuti yatutubuka from slumber

117. #115 KUKU MUKWAI.I had a detailed discusion with one of the Directors at Zesco just over this weekend to find out exactly why they keep having such problems.The answer I was given was that Zesco can not simply meet the increase in demand because of it lacks the capacity to generate enough power to cater for the demand.For example,the amount of power generated by Kariba North bank is just enough to cater for one mine.Basically,there`s need to build the power generation facilities in order to curb these ongoing blackouts.Where I blame SISALA is his inability to strategise on sourcing funds for such capital projects.I don`t question whether SISALA is qualified or not but my issue with him is that he`s incompetent.

118. #117 Africans lack long term planning and this applies to so called state firms.These are questions my mentor William Jefferson Clinton in one of his memoirs asked about 21st Century and I quote
     1.What are the fundamental nature of the 21st century world?
     2.Is it good or bad?
     3.How would you like to change it?
     4.what steps are necessary to change it?
     5.who is supposed to take those steps?
     Self eveidently the nature of 21st century is ‘globalisation’-exclusive economic connotation but he opted to prefer ‘Interdependence’-means we cant escape each other and have a chance to affect each other’s welfare.
     #117 I was accorded a chance to visit Kariba under Zesco sponsored tours during the 1997 worst droughts when the waters were severly reduced.Kariba has 4 generators which were installed in 1954 and since then no one ever saw the need for expansion? Its a shame to be in 21st century and yet our minds are still in the 18th century

119. ctd from 118 that is why we need to change implication of politics vis a vis the welfare of our citizens.We need viosionary leaders who are able to understand things in a more focused way.The key to ant development wolvers aroung energy.Like chikubabe said we have so much sun in the continent and had people been prudent we should have expanded this area for domestic consumption leave the entire hydro power for industrialisation.Our research and development need a shake up,some one in Mporokoso is generating power using a tractor rim and no one is paying attention to that effect.

120. #118.The problem in Zambia is that we`re interested in making kneejerk decisions unlike putting much thought to long term objectives.Remember when Laura Bush visited Zambia,there was the keep Zambia clean campaign initiative but now it`s died a natural death.When South Africa won the right to host the world cup,the Zambian gov was so excited and came up with ideas to try and benefit from that but if you look at any progress its zero.When LPM came into office he promised to build universities such as Northrise and when you check if there`s any it`s zip.There`s absolute need for us to set long term goes as a nation which we`ll must strive to reach.

121. #120 I knew that this was just an academic exercise,late Bwendo Mulengela tried but because we have this laissez faire and an attitude problem, it died a natural death.Education and awareness are key to development by advocating for 3 measures -shared opportunities to participate in,a genuine sense of responsibility and a sense of belonging.Serious evaluation of our status will reveal that these 3 are non existent from plot 1 to a street kid.
     Ala bwafya sana,God help us.

122. Mune Chapi nayamukutusha we link up tommorrow

123. #121.I hope when you say KUKU 2011,it`s not just ilyashi lya pansaka but you mean business.I`ll be there in december and Ndola in particular coz I`m eyeing one of those seats.We want to put our plans in reality unlike the low caliber MP`s we keep having who have no clue about the vision for the nation.

124. #122.It`s been nice blogging with you KUKU MUKWAI

125. #113 to 119 Kuku Welcome back Mudala I missed you and your wise wisdom and analystic thinking. If all debaters could contribute like this I tell you Zambia could have been recieving manner from heaven. So I think I was write to have asked that question on #103. It has brought a hinted debate. We need thinkers not politicking. Now we know how imerse are the problems o our power supply firm. How gone our long term strategy look like. We need to realise what we are discussion now. Look the USA is colapsing and Europe is living in fear because of the the unknown so we SADC know where are problems are and we have a vision we should start now implementation. Chapi maintain this spirit by doing so we shall liberate our nation from these hazards. But dont forget ZESCO could a minor issue compared to Hunger. Once it doesnt run Iam afriad the whole region will colapse. We need more Winter farmers just in case not only Teka Farm. We can feed ourselves. Look at the whether catastrophy in NA.

126. Think of this whenever you engage INVESTORS
     The other — and often bloody — side of the “digital revolution”
     We often regard the electronic devices and gadgets which surround us as being “clean” technologies. Indeed, during the heyday of the Internet, the “clean” and environmentally friendly aspect of computer technology was often trumpeted. For those who had accepted (and still do accept) this apparent truism, the spurious arguments appear convincing enough: after all, when you turn on a computer or use a mobile phone, you don’t see smoke billowing out from anywhere as with a car or a factory; you can’t see, smell, or taste the pollution.

127. Yet there is more. Not only has the digital revolution of the past few years have had a tremendous impact in terms of the environment, health, and social relations, it has also been a very bloody one as well, fueling war and civil strife around the globe. As we continue to watch the news and bemoan what’s happening, little do we realise that much of this has been exacerbated by the brave new world we have been creating. Tantalum is within most electronic devicesNowhere is this more apparent than what has been happening in the Congo region of Central Africa. While the civil war in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) no longer makes headline news, it’s still going on. At the same time, the country’s biodiversity is being rapidly depleted. All this thanks to a substance known as tantalum. Tantalum is a rare, blue-grey metal that has a wide range of uses. It’s an excellent conductor of electricity and can also withstand heat very well. It’s a refined substance and comes from coltan,

128. which is the African name for an ore of tantalum and its sister mineral, columbium or niobium. The name coltan is derived from columbite-tantalite. It’s primary use is in the manufacture of capacitors to store electrical charges. Within most electronic devices you will find such components, such as in laptop computers, video cameras, mobile phones, and games consoles. Indeed, game consoles and mobile phones are considered to be the main sources for tantalum demand. There are tantalum deposits in many parts of the world, including Australia, the Americas, Asia, and Africa. But it’s in the Congo where tantalum has had its most devastating impact. The country has plenty of coltan, and the desire for minerals coupled with civil strife has been a recipe for disaster. Thus, Africa became most aversely affected as global demand for tantalum increased strongly throughout mid-1990s followed by a global shortage of tantalum in 2000, primarily because of consumer demand for PlayStations in the

129. in the industrialised world.Because of the huge demand for coltan, the rich biodiversity of the Congo has been plundered. Illegal mining camps quickly sprouted in many nature reserves, putting the indigenous species and inhabitants at risk. For example, the illegal mine at the Okapi Faunal Reserve is home to monkeys, elephants and the okapi, a rare relative of the giraffe. Thousands of Mbuti, or pygmies, also live there. Their livelihood has since been compromised by the coltan miners, for to support such mining camps professional hunters killed vast quantities of wildlife for meat. One of the worst affected species has been the Eastern Lowland gorilla that can only be found in the DRC and whose population have been decimated. Undoubtedly, the so-called “digital revolution” has contributed to this state of affairs. During the technology boom, the price of coltan soared tenfold. It was mainly because of the world shortage in 2000 which delayed the release of the Sony Playstatio

130. Playstation and many other hi-tech devices. Since then, prices have returned more or less to their pre-boom levels. The fall in price is generally attributed to a combination of factors: massive stockpiles created because of panic-buying during the shortage in 2000, falling demand due to the failure of many hi-tech industries, the overall global recession, and development of alternatives to tantalum.

     In addition to the environmental impact, the demand for coltan is one of the reasons that the civil war continues in the DRC. Rival armies covet territories from which to extort money from the mining. This is why there is little news on what has been happening in the Congo lately: multinationals are uncomfortable at having the general public know that Congolese coltan — which is in many everyday devices and products — fuels war and accelerates the destruction of wildlife habitats. As with the diamond trade in Sierra Leone, which later became dubbed as “blood diamonds”, multinationals

131. multinationals are a little queasy about having blood on their hands. As one observer noted, companies are wary of protest movements “sullying their reputations by calling attention to all the gorillas coltan kills, or the guerrillas it feeds”.

     Yet it’s precisely this — public knowledge — which could ultimately bring a measure of peace and stability to the region of the Congo. As with blood diamonds in Sierra Leone, knowledge which can affect consumer perceptions can have an indirect influence. One the most powerful kind of influence that can lead to change is that of purchasing habits of consumers in the developed world.Hence, as in the case of Sierra Leone, the alternative to blood diamonds was for companies to look elsewhere so as to protect their brands from any association with dirty business and to satisfy the moral needs of activist-consumers of the industrialised world. Ultimately, when it comes to making a profit and securing trade, the international community

132. (or at least a small portion of it) can be mobilised so that even the most complex conflicts can be overcome. Just using coltan from elsewhere doesn’t solve the underlying problems For the Congo, there appears to be already some signs of progress in this direction. The Belgian airline, Sabena, no longer flies coltan from the Congo. Meanwhile, the mining of coltan has been expanded in Australia and there has been international pressure for a boycott of Central African tantalum. In fact, electronics giants Nokia and Motorola now require suppliers to use coltan from elsewhere. Yet while such measures are laudable in principle, they also tend to obscure or divert the problem at hand. Using coltan from elsewhere may be bad news for combatants in the Congo, but it’s good news for others, such as the Australian company Sons of Gwalia, which now provides half of the world supply of coltan. Unfortunately, as one Australian commentator noted, the destruction of Australian flora and fauna app

133. appears more digestible to the world community as it is less picturesque, since no endangered gorillas are involved. Thus, while satisfying the moral needs of activist-consumers of the industrialised world may appear as an effective means for overcoming certain conflicts, this shouldn’t be seen as the best nor only means by which to solve conflicts. Indeed, it often doesn’t solve underlying problems, but simply enables many in the first world to sleep at night. Meanwhile, the people whom they “helped” will continue to suffer the most brutal forms of low-rent exploitation and expropriation. The problem for a place like the Congo is that only two kinds of resources really have enough value to be worth the world’s interest: one is minerals, the other is wildlife. The Congolese people, on the other hand, are only worth 20 cents a day.Although demand has slumped and the price of coltan is now one tenth of what it once was, it’s still being mined in the Congo. Even though they are barely

134. able to scrape a living, coltan miners can’t afford to stop for it’s still one of the few sources of income for many Congolese. Despite protestations from many companies that they do not purchase Congolese tantalum, it’s still being sold on the spot market, where sources are near impossible to trace. While the demand for coltan may be low at present, many are convinced that this is only a temporary situation; as soon as the markets pick up again and inventories have declined, demand and the price of coltan will once again be on the rise. Indeed, it appears that there are a number of new markets for tantalum capacitors that will maintain the growth in demand for tantalum, the most important being under-hood applications in automobiles. Growth in tantalum demand in capacitors is expected to average 10% annually through to 2005, albeit half of what it was during the boom years. Meanwhile, other new markets for tantalum have been developed, which have the potential to be major consumer

135. of tantalum in the future, such as computer memory chips and processors.

     As with many of the other problems associated with technology, we prefer to escape into the virtual worlds that these devices have allowed us to explore. These devices, in turn, merely exacerbate the problems from which we are trying to escape. The real world has become a too complicated place to live in, not to mention increasingly dangerous. Little do we realise that it’s this indulgence, coupled with an abdicated sense of personal responsibility, which gives rise to the

136. Where have I posted this the reason is simply we should bare this in mind of we welcome investor. Anyone who has seen the Untold stories on CNN running since a few days can bear with me that this has not changed we are in 2007. A British businessman who runing these illegal mines I court what he said when asked ” Iam not here to be a moral saviour of thes people,Anyway they need something to eat”.

137. EASY… You are beginning to wory me. why would you be bloging all by yourself? Is your life that empty?

138. That is how addiction works. By the way Easy calls that multi-task. Saddening indeed to endure.

139. FINANCIAL INTELLIGENCE UNIT COMING

     SOME Government departments are working on a legislation which, if approved, will lead to the establishment of an Independent Financial Intelligence Unit to monitor international transfer of money in the country.
     The team working on the law comprises officials from the Ministry of Finance and National Planning, Bank of Zambia, Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) and Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC).
     ACC chief community education officer, Festus Chipungu, revealed this in an interview in Lusaka yesterday.
     “The purpose of this proposed financial intelligence unit is to monitor the movement of money between financial institutions and countries so that money gotten through illicit activities can be tracked down in the process,” Mr Chipungu said.
     He said efforts had already been made and the proposal was now at technical planning stage.
     “When technical specifications are completed, it will be taken to Cabinet for consideration.
     If cabinet approves the proposal, Government will then come up with a Bill to seek the creation of the unit through an Act of Parliament,” Mr Chipungu said.
     He said the unit would work undercover and gather information on questionable movements of money.
     Mr Chipungu said the unit would not duplicate functions of the ACC, DEC and the Zambia Police Service as its operations would be totally undercover.
     He said the establishment of the unit would enhance the fight against white-collar crime.
     “Most western countries have such units and they have worked well in fighting white-collar crime,” he said.
     Mr Chipungu said there are proposals to house the unit at BoZ.
     “These units have proven ineffective in countries where they have been housed under law enforcement agencies,” he said.

140. Worth learning from…..The military is losing out in its power struggle with the intelligence services, and President Mugabe is the beneficiary
     More than 15 senior officers have been purged from the Zimbabwe Defence Force following investigations into plots to oust President Robert Mugabe, a group of military officers told Africa Confidential this week. Some of the officers have been court-martialled, others are under arrest and yet others have ‘disappeared’. Other military sources link the latest purge to what they describe as the most serious coup attempt against Mugabe since 1998 and suggest that more than 40 officers are being targeted for surveillance and arrest (AC Vol 48 No 14). As power struggles intensify and the pace of economic disintegration accelerates, officers believe the mainstream military is losing out to the Central Intelligence Organisation (CIO) under its Director General, Happyton Bonyongwe.

141. #137 SAGE I stopped manupilating things the above is one story. i hope you noticed my absences on blog but i missed out when Kuku and Chapi took the bull on its head. #138 multitaskings is very important in computer word do some research on it and see how it can help to your katemba.I tell you only addicition is playing chess with friends which i almost do every evening in a pub. computing is my career and hobby.Sage as IT Manager or CIO you must know that in these internet world live is changing the way we communicate. Recently a mother came to and told that his children dont talk to her anymore brcause they busy blogging, chatting or play some game on playstation 2 so she is worried about this. Look when I walk around the city sometimes i think pipo are mad because you hear everyone talking to himself or listening to music. Have you ever heard about virtual world. SAGE you must know VMware operating system you can access your data anywhere, anytime, somehow Ihope this makes sense.

142. #137 SAGE dont worry I have alot to do but I find time to blog, this goes back in the late 1990 when chatting surfaced on the net. Did you know that in Unix long before you could chat with friends as early as 1994. SAGE if you are computer flick u must know this remember the whois commands or just telnet. Anyway thanks to FTP and RIP protocol that has allowed Bandwidth and reducing costs in IT.

143. When it comes to cleanness and proper town planning, we need to be like Mugabe’s Harare city planners who had the boldness to uproot illegal structures from the city. Lusaka is squatter city and it does not even deserve to be called a city. It is sad that Solwezi is also becoming a squatter town. We need councils who will tell people that they can’t just build any kind of building anywhere without following proper standard of buildings. In this age, the Indians and Lebanese should not just be allowed to build what they want to build in Kamwala. In the West, people go to display home centres to check the kind of houses that are allowed in each suburb that is being developed. It is for this reason that we don’t see squatter compounds in the West. Let us grow and wise up as Zambians.

144. Kuku what went wrong in Solwezi? One its becoming a squatter town.Two its causing load shedding. How are planners of these mines. SAGE watch CNN and see what happens when a govt fails to plan. I didnt send that article on Coltan for nothing but a purpose. DR Congo is our neighbor and see how pipo are suffering including wildlife. Yet its the richest country in nature resources. The police should take to task ZESCO, INVESTOR in the mines, and the council for failing to implement proper structures in Solwezi. The DC and Minister of the province plus the area MP must be account for this mess. Building houses for workers should be part of condition of services when a company want invest in Zambia.

145. #96

     Posting # 96 is the work of ci Pragmatist. I can not shift camps. I have respect of ba Sata. So iwe ka Pragmatist leka ifyamba nokulabofya my ID.

146. #137 SAGE , Seriously unless we deal with several EASYs, our brother needs rehab. Honestly no malice intended, we’re just concerned about his ‘kanongobility’ with life. EASY, i feel sorry for your employer, how many man hours do you steal from your company every month. Bro. you’re not a very good steward of time. Like Zim, you’re a sinking titanic. May God bless you.

147. #146 mala-msana wandalama, I dont want any war with you if you can not manage your time and use the new technology please dont shift the problems to me. Sage will understand what I mean all what you know is bloging. The ICT can do many things in ones life. Iam far behind your capacity. I would very happy next time you open your mouth that you think with your brains not your ash and contribute to the topic. I wil finish you off here to such an extend that you you not blog again. Dont force me to do this. Ask SAGR how he works and they will understand how this works. Politely Mala where are you, I hope you attend to university or college lessons. I bring you awareness about what happens on the world and youw want to liken me with HK. Iam not in that calibre. Chapi advise your brother before he loses track. I will make him disabled and handicapped. Dont play with Iam sometimes an allein.

148. #146 EASY… The question you raise last week of Solwezi becoming a huge shanti as witnessed by LPM is very important. It actually ties in with the current discusion on MICC power cut. Like i mentioned on saturday on this same blog. Dispite having PHD holders for MDs and Town clarks we still 200 years behing when it comes to capacity planing. Makes one wonder if the focal point should be PHDs or probably a combination of exposure and PHDs. Look at someone who went to lubushi meninary school, then UNZA and then made PS NWP stationed in Solwezi. I’m not saying these people are ill qualified but i think they lack exposure and understanding.

149. #148 SAGE i dont intend to be abusive on the above its seems pipo are not understanding that world is changing. some pipo work from the sea side yet they contribute positively to their firms. You talk of Telework for mothers and fathers with children they can operate from home. Some pipo know where there child is using GSM. Anyway let sleeping lions lie. Sage i raised that issue in relation to power shortage so that pipo should know instead of finger pointing.When asked this I want to hear views and solutions which can help my fellow country men from suffering. You theory is dangerous you can hold a degree but if you cant use it in practice its useless. My teacher used to us such pipo are educated fools. You teamwork is very important the PS for NWP, MP for Solwezi, DC the ward councilliors and may others including the council they should have advised the investors and the president to consider Town planing this where companies like ZESCO, Water and Seweage, Housing Authority comes in

150. I have impressed that now education ministry has involved many other sectors when selecting teachers to cover the teacher shortages. This what we want not think about alway ati bapamwamba. If we start engaging many pipo you will the country will move and develop. Manpower is not a problem for Zambia we have many qualified staff and but we have teach them how to realize projects. Poor planing or inadquate planing is the problem. I singled out Zambia Sugar they have heads because I seen Zambian Sugar in Europe.

151. Iam

152. #150 EASY there is one thing i dont get. If these pips running institutions like Zesco are that qualified, How come they cant plan ahead of time. What qualifications are wee talking about here. You have to understand that the education system in Z is is very rigid. I dont think people doing engeering or sciences at UNZA take any courses in busines or managemnt. Thats why i dont expect Dr Miti at health to understand fiscal responsibility and capacity planning. He is a qualified MD but he is not a qualified manager or ministry controller. So guys where is the problem. We have qualified people running institutions like niba G12. How can you start a mine without planning for the exponetial demand in housing. Where did the people responsible expect people to live while working in the mines in Solwezi? I keep saying this problem in deeply rooted in the way we do things as Zambians. Planning has never been part of our culture. Thats why you have a cabinet minister becomes homeless CTN

153. a few years after loosing his position. We have been programmed to think fika isova. That may be true on the streets but for those tasked to run institutions like Zesco that trend has to stop. We have to start planning things out.

154. #152 SAGE I dont know how old is Mr. Miti and Co. But if he went to school in the 70s then he is a specialist you know this was how it was in the pasted. Pipo will just do that job they learn. Until recently job rotation has been encouraged. After SAGE what is important is when you take up a position you have to go and do some refresher courses, seminars, Project Management is part of any profession. If you are a doctor you know PM You must know how to go about Risk Management. In Germany something happened a few years ago. The Govt introduced a fee for all patients abruptly doctors and nurses were faced with Accounting they have not done a Business management. So they were forced to go for training. They have to give there monthly reports.I dont know if people are read to take over.

155. SAGE I took a break to blog to watch a reportage about Globalization world race here you find only winners and losers. The important thing I learned is the key to the modern success: Its thru Innovation nothing else but innovation. This is the only way you can survive or else you must provide cheap labor like china or Indian. Frankly speaking Zambia used to be an innovation nation if you look at the most pipo outside are well educated ones who left the country for greener pastures. One of the country benefited so much from Zambia is Botswana it tool most of Zambias teachers. Nambia is also another country which had a great share of Zambian manpower. I hope the just ended dialogue summit in Malasiya looked at this issue and what can we do in order to attract not only investment but also skilled manpower. Zambia is privelleged to take part on all world economy changes we dont drag behind. All we need is to become innovative or else you remain slaves doing donkey work.

156. EASY … i beg to differ when you say Z used to be an inovative state. In what area are you refering to. Look at ZESCO for instance. If you cant increase capacity decrease consumption in noe critical areas. Why do we still have to use 220 – 240V just to cook nshima. or what TV. why wouldnt they make an adjustment and use 110 V appliances for home use. There is no difference between a house with 60 watt bulbs and the one with 100 watts bulb. As a utility company you have to fine tune your system. most of the electricity being wasted in residential areas could be used in the industrial areas. But some one has to know what is going on. Efficiency is the name of the game.How we efficiently utilise our resources is critical. Efficiency reduces operational costs.

157. SAGE you are right nothing has changed much if see my Thesis you recognise minimium input with maximium output. Its a cost saving methode you can operate at cost effeciency level.The problem is if a firm has no Research and development department how can you test prouducts. Look at the Booming industries like Hoolywood have test kinos before the films are despatched worldwide if they it found to be bad it wont even single viewer. Most developed nations have such test cities where products are taken before they can come on the market. They use instruments like product cycle, experience curve etc. Do ZESCO have such Marketing concept or they just a classical fir´m with no vision that is why energy is being wasted hence experiencing such lizard problems innovation is lacking. We have to efffective and effecient or else we fighting a losing battle the markets are very homogene tomorrow you will see a shift world informations

158. #157 World wide they are seriously utilizing power serving appliances in order avoid wastage of the preciouse resource called electricity. In RSA all security bulbd outside the houses or offices are motion sensitive. They only come up when they sense motion within the designed rsdius. Look at just a fridge,TV ,radio etc why cant Zesco start encourat\ging people to use such appliances which will in tern serve people money on their electrical bills. Instead of embacking on power cut campaigns these are some of the projects we expect from our learned friend Mr Sisala. We have to start maximising what we have. Look at the water situation. You people some areas live the pipes watering their gardens whole day and whole night while in some areas there is no water. All it takes a device worth$100.00 to regulate your spriklers to water your garden at a specifc time for a set period. Again ineptitude is inefficency’s cousin. They live in the same house.

159. Kalikiliki: A genre of contrasts
     By BOYD PHIRI

     RHUMBA music blaring out from seedy taverns – drunken men – women taking turns at mugs of opaque beer called chibuku – some muttering things to themselves while urinating on dry grass beside abandoned buildings.

     This is Kalikiliki. As the general activity of the day recedes into the distance, women, girls and children converge around taverns, bars and streets to flog different kinds of merchandise ranging from eggs, bans, fresh fish, pre-packed chicken, small packets of mealie meal known as ‘pamela’ – and in some cases sex.

     This description may look like an abstract painting from Henry Tayali’s ‘whirl wind’, but this is life in Lusaka’s Kalikiliki, a sprawling township teaming with over 10,000 people.

     To a first time visitor Kalikiliki looks like an overgrown village near the swamps of Lake Bangweulu in Luapula Province, what with a dam named after the township in the vicinity.

     In reality Kalikiliki is a genre of contrasts.

     Fondly known as ‘Jamaica’ by commuter bus call boys, the township stands out as one of the country’s exhibits of urban poverty, yet Kalikiliki shares its borders with affluent Ibex Hill and Kabulonga suburbs on the south.

     This is where you have well-to-do people – talk of Kabulonga.

     The majority of High Commissioners and ambassadors’ residences are housed there.

     Needless to say, both the first and second Republican Presidents, Dr Kenneth Kaunda and Dr Frederick Chiluba live in Kabulonga.

     Although modern civilisation has for many years eluded Kalikiliki in terms of good houses and life in general, residents can still find happiness in the midst of poverty.

     Baring testimony to this aphorism is the number of taverns and bars within vomiting distance of each other.

     It would appear that with very few church buildings in the area life revolves around beer places.

     If you don’t drink beer you will be affected by the loud music and its attendant corollary to incorrigible behavour.

     To all intents and purposes, the township has earned itself certain notoriety for decadence.

     Like its densely populated neighbour, Mutendere township, this is where children, as young as five years old have either entered bars by themselves while selling eggs and groundnuts or sent by their parents to buy cigarettes or chibuku beer.

     When it comes to accommodation you don’t need a lot of money to find a house in Kalikiliki because a two-room house without electricity fetches K30,000 and K70,000 for an electrified one-room house.

     It is not unusual to see young men carrying a single bed and scanty household property during the day shifting from one shack they once called home to another.

     This is easy transportation where there is lack of money to book a van or taxi to ferry property to a new house.

     However, cheap as it may look, the mode of transport does not go without humiliation as along the way one meets children poking fan with derogatory chants, “Bakuka, bathaba nkhongole abo” literally meaning (they are running away from rental arrears by way of shifting to another house).

     Where there is poverty crime reins supreme, and it goes without saying that crime is part of life in Kalikiliki.

     Though there are freelance pastors who preach to residents from the streets very early in the morning, the gospel seems to fall on deaf ears like seeds planted on rocks.

     To show defiance against preachers, all told, recently a pastor was killed around 04:00 hours by night muggers who did not approve of his good work.

     Apparently it was after their unsuccessful night that they decided to vent their anger on the hapless pastor who woke up many people with his early morning sermons in the streets.

     “There are many thieves in Kalikiliki,” says Mailesi Zulu one of the residents of Kalikiliki.

     “They can attack and kill you even when you are coming from relieving yourself in the toilet behind your house.

     People do not come out of their houses at night anyhow.

     We hear there is a group of three robbers who call themselves by the number 666.

     They have been terrorising people around here”
     Before a police post was set up in the area two months ago, any kind of crime went unchecked.

     According to Zulu child dumping was rampant.

     “Before the police post was set up girls and women used to throw babies in pit latrines and garbage dumps.

     One was arrested recently,” she said.

     Many deaths among children resulting from drowning in the Kalikiliki dam have been reported in the area.

     Dumping of dead bodies near the dam have also been witnessed by residents, not excluding gunfire exchanges between criminals and police around the swampy area.

     It is only last year when a project was started by an investor to drain the water from the dam to develop the area.

     Anything goes, and it is not surprising to hear people shouting “hule – hule – hule” a sign that a woman has been found committing adultery with someone’s husband.

     Almost every child knows how to spell the word hule, a vernacular version of the word “whore”.

     Kalikiliki is one of those political creations in the second republic.

     Just like its closest neighbour Mutendere, Kalikiliki is mostly inhabited by people who sympathised with the then ruling United National Independence Party (UNIP).

     Most landlords, Zulu says, still tell stories of how they got plots from UNIP ward chairmen and politicians.

     Although the township looks disorderly and unplanned, it has a steady supply of electricity unlike Mutendere and other townships like Helen Kaunda to the west who experience an erratic supply of electricity due to load shedding by the power utility company, Zesco.

     When Helen and Mutendere are experiencing load shedding from the power utility company, Kalikiliki remains glowing with electricity in the homes and bars of those who can afford it.

     When Ibex Hill and Kabulonga were expanding eastwards little did town planners know that they would give an advantage to Kalikiliki to tap electricity from a distribution network in these suburbs.

     So despite its downtrodden disposition, the township can share the trappings of happy life.

     So next time you are in Ibex Hill ask for Kalikiliki.

160. Kuku welcome, ukaleka lilali aya mano ya copy and paste. ni ba Jose balekufulungany te(joke)good story.

161. #144 Easy Mwaice wandi ulishani apo pa USA na ma dollars ayengi sana? Bushe ulalipila council Tax?
     To answer your question , read what is happening in my #159,this is a country whose policies are somehow misplaced and no one seems bothered,taking me to repeat what we lack as Zambians from Plot1 to street kid 1.shared opportunities to participate in, 2. a genuine sense of responsibility and 3.a sense of belonging
     We have a problem with policing in our country and those who mean well cant be bothered at all.Its not about qualification or anything of the sort, its our Attitude which we need to change to surge forward.Lusaka is in a mess what more with Solwezi where council town clerk has gone for months without pay? Do you think he will be bothered to do his work properly? In Lusaka just behind Miller farm, there is a village which has been in existence for decades , people live like they are not part of Zambia and no one has ever raised an issue with them until when Given Lubinda

162. #160, there was a point to follow my brother,how have you been? Ifwe na BaJoze tulepanga ama film in our local Holywood (Ndoligan).
     Nalisamona icikope cobe kwena ulimwina misamfu icinecine, ufwile wabwela ukese cita run research centre, we need to start thinking about Global Warming issues in NP, Ba SADC bamambala balelandafye pali Mugabe balaba ati very soon effects of climate change will be real in Africa, and no safety nets are being worked out.Japanese cars are all over emitting alot of CO2,Chibuku breweries have marsh roomed everywhere,kanshi when are your leaders ever learn to plan long term?

163. #147EASY, Laughable, so mr ICT man how are you going to finish and dicapitate me? You’re an empty ruttling box. I regret having adviced you. Niwebo cimushololwa. continue blogging to your detriment and dont theaten people you dont. DONT REPLY

164. #147EASY, Laughable, so mr ICT man how are you going to finish and dicapitate me? You’re an empty ruttling box. I regret having adviced you. Niwebo cimushololwa. continue blogging to your detriment and dont theaten people you dont know. DONT REPLY

165. Kuku what are the prospects in Z for a full fleged computer assemply company give me raw data. I’m seriously thinking of partnering with some serious Zedians in this area. but its been a while so refresh my memory on what is prevailing right now. Misanfu balyonaula bamambala. When you hear LPM talk its like Z is a paradise. give a true picture so that we dont end homeless when we come back based on LPMs talk.

166. Do you have acess to budget presentation notes? From 2004 to date,Computer assembly will qualify for duty free importation of components in assembly,check the Magande presenations? I will also re check but in as for motor assembly you qualify for Zero duty.
     Actually there are so many characters on the peripheral who go to RSA and buy those reconditioned computers bring them in and improve on them and then flog them?Yours can make a difference if you do your business plan and marketing plan nicely,all you need is serious positioning to attract the masses.The hindrance we have in Zambia is the cost of Ineternet, if this was made affordable computer business will be very lucrative.Think widely and see what best will be competitive in ICT back home?

167. #163 mala msana dont be scared I have forgiven you I talked to my wife and she has adviced me not to worst time on such unpropelored visionless blogers. She has Iam a busy man and a loving father so why should a comment made in bad faith without proof and truth hestaten me she said. So forgive them for they dont know what they are doing.

168. #167 Mwaice Easy that is the way to go.Mala-Msana wabukumu is a cheerful lad , I guess it was in passing that he wrote like that , he never meant to hurt you.You are 2 brilliant boys.Nomba mwaice wamona what is hapenning mu Kalikiliki which is a stone throw from Plot1? What are your views over this when you assume office as Lusaka Province Minister in my new cabinet come 2011? Draw up a policy initiative on how to deal with squatters, twaya mukutamba Sheli na Ba Joze.Enjoy the rest of the evenings.
     #165 in the 2007 budget look for concessions on Multi Facility Economic Zones under the ZDA act,(manufacturing engineering)

169. #59 Kuku I have got you point and I find the article very informative. This journalist you be considered for a reward for his good observation. Its Kalikiliki is no different to its neighbour leopards hills. Also understand that the pipo go without salaries for months in Zambia. Real one doesnt need to go to Solwezi to see these kind of housing when plot1 is also in Kabulonga and Mutendere is just at the edge. Its true it reminds me of Livingstone with Malota shanti next to that college on the Shesheke road. In Kalomo the same next to the Hospital. You come to Choma there is Zambia compound where houses are built swampy place. In Monze opposite Finance Bank to the west that big shanti but they are bars with TV station showing premier league. In Mazabuka you cannot even talk of the structures for the Zimbe cutter from western province most houses without power this includes Zambia compound and the other one next to Mazabuka general Hospital. In Kafue is the same because of cheap labor..

170. #EASY, You’re a fool and to hell with your wife, what makes think you got me scared. Dont annoy me because i will unleash unprintables on you. For once heed, DO NOT REPLY.

171. for NCZ and non exsisting Kafue Textile. The compound is opposite the railway station. In Lusaka maybe the worst Chawama, Msisi, Kanyama, Jone Lenge, Chibolya, Mandevu going up to Zanimuone, Matero another shamb area. Worse is that Mumbwa road shanti next to that army barracks. Look at Kabwe SAGE there is no difference places like NGungu, with neighbor shanti serving KFC. Behind rails and those secondary schools you have unscrible structure ati Malota. Abit structure are the towns of the Copperbelt. Is ZESCO and the councils doing something on this. No wonder Sata was sayinf building houses in 90 days. Is this possible. We have to think of Global climate changes we are behind see what is happening in other countries like Peru, China, Indonesia, India, Niger recently. The floods we had was just a warning.

172. Thaks Kuku, EASY mwaiche dont waste your time fighting in the blog. Just ignore him and he will disappear. Back to magande. You know i started exporting computers 2 years to Z. but i was being killed by the Duty+VAT. its an believable how those chaps calculate the duty. Upto now i have failed to come up with a logical explanation or figure out the formula. First they charge you VAT. Second they add all your shiping costs as the total value of your products. look at this i had an invoice of $1,200.00 but i paid K8.7M to clear my shipment. Tell me what is the formula they are using.

173. Chapi and SAGE pilz advance your brother to blog instead of acting me I will not reply him because he is shallow minded.The boy should hint to my advice spend more time on the uni or college listening to lectures. I dont want be forced to trace him its very easy and it will be very embarrassing. Maybe he wants to the first Zambian to tried under Property intectual law? Please contribute stop attacking me because I will hammer back and you will regret blogging.

174. #172 SAGE Iam also in diaspora the last time I bought clothes for need and I was forced to pay duty. I went to buy my mother a bic I was told I have to pay VAT yet all is indicated I fail to understand how price calculation is done in Zambia. Maybe KUKU can help because VAT works different on other countries.

175. COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THEIR FIRST STAGE OF THEIR OPERATIONS.

     These companies are often initially bank rolled by their entrepreneurial founders as they attempt to capitalize on developing a product or service for which they believe there is a demand. Due to limited revenue or high costs, most of these small scale operations are not sustainable in the long term without additional funding from venture capitalists. These venture capitalist funds are neither easy to land nor fair for a small venture to handle.

     Understanding such challenges among our Zambian small and medium entrepreneurs, some visionary Zambians have worked hard, networked and now pulling together big resources for easy access of Zambians in Zambia provable to be in the viable business act. Over time ingenuity has birthed what should be a sustainable partnership from which Zambian Entrepreneurs developing Zambia should count on for their Capital structures.

     Least we forget that in the late 1990s, the most common type of Startup Company in the USA was a dotcom. Venture capital was extremely easy to obtain during that time due to frenzy among investors to speculate on the emergence of these new types of businesses. Unfortunately, most of these internet startups eventually went bust due to major
     oversights in their underlying business plans, such as a lack of sustainable revenue.

     However, there were a handful of internet startups that did survive when the dotcom bubble burst. Internet bookseller Amazon.com and internet auction portal eBay are examples of such companies. The opportunities in Zambia call for some systematic business approach. There is money for your business growths just understand the market. Now made it real for serious entrepreneurs to grow their life time dreams. Business is about risk taking. The more aversive an entrepreneur is, the more the risks to miss out.

176. You see Guys Magande says something else but ZRA charges you through the nose.logically i expected 17.5 + 5% duty that is 22.5% of $1,200.00. But i recieved a shock of my life.

177. EASY and SAGE.I hope the gov would do the logical thing by making neccessary adjustments to attract alot of indegenous Zambians investing back home.Alot of us in the DIASPORA are busy positioning ourselves to capitalise on the economic activities taking place in ZED.I`ve also been a casaulty of these taxes they yank on prospective investors.What shocked me was that they even heavily tax and impose duty on heavy duty equipment.Friends,how`s the manufacturing sector going to boom if they keep taxing us the way there`re doing?

178. #177 Chapi in hard times you increase the taxes and booming eco you reduce the taxe. What I know is a first machinery is duty free if you are returning student.

179. EASY the whole shouldnt roll arround returning students. What happens after returning and i want to use my contacts here in the US to import machinary to Z? Why should i pay VAT+Duty more than i apid for the equipment. They say one thing in the media but the reality is different.In the US or in Europe if they tell you that tax is 8% thats what you pay period. Why should the formula for taxes be a state secrete? How can you plan for your business if you cant know how much you will be charged. The thing stinks. How do you as a nation move forward?

180. Easy#178.Our gov needs to realise that when they waive or simply reduce taxes on heavyduty equipment then the following is going to happen.The manufacturing industry will boom resulting into Creation of employment which broadens the tax base(income and corporate tax).The gov should look at the long term benefits which would be massive revenue collection.

181. Chapi there was a time the plot1 talked of waiving the taxes but it died a natural death maybe Magande and Fundanga are afraid of Balance of Payment. The other reason is as long as we are IMF/World Bank kids we cannot implement our ideas. This Bretton Wood think has killed most economics. You wonder how nations manage to clear there debts in a short period of time. I was listen to the Germany economy and finance minister its mostly like that their BG will zero credit yet here a country which had a recession in 2005. Umemployment rate had increase and now its reducing. All what they did was to increase VAT from 16% to 19%. Also they have transformed their national companies in world firms inform of innovation. What fail to understand Africa with its vast natural ressources and students mostly west trained why we cannot come out of this mess. Yet countries like China, India have take over and doing fine even Russia is a mighty economy supplier of almost the whole europe with Power & Gas.

182. I meant BOP deficit

183. #181 EASY.Goodnight

184. ZAMBIA APPROVES 20 INVESTMENT LICENSES

     Zambia has approved 20 investment licenses this year with total investment pledges of about 413 million U.S. dollars, Times of Zambia reported Monday.

     The investment pledges have a corresponding total employment pledge of over 2,000, according to the report.

     Half of the 20 projects are in manufacturing sector while the rest are in agriculture, information and communication technology, service, transport and construction.

     It quoted public relations and communications manager of the Zambia Development Agency (ZDA) Margaret Chimanse as saying here at the weekend that “investor confidence is generally on the increase in Zambia as a result of certain strategic initiatives such as the creation of the ZDA and the Triangle of Hope among others.”

     Under the triangle of hope, Zambia in conjunction with Japan International Cooperation Agency has developed a business, trade and investment initiative to serve as a stimulus for the promotion of domestic and foreign business, trade and direct investment in Zambia.

     A more nuanced approach to take into consideration the sensitivities surrounding the political parties within the Southern African Community, ” Masamvu said

185. #184.Veteran.I know we`ve had our differences in political rhetoric but let`s take off such masks and tackle these real concerns SAGE ,EASY and I`ve raised in line with VAT + DUTY.I eagerly wait your practical input on this matter.I remember that you had raised similar concerns when you and your business associates encountered problems in trying to setup a research centre or hosipital.Atleast,this is one issue were we agree and as such ,lets explore ways in which we can help each other as we strive for indegenous economic empowerment.

186. Zambia with FDI has a chance of becoming an econiomic power in the southern region like china and India. In Europe they have now accepted that protectism doesnt work in the globalized world. As I said they are losers and winners in this game Zambia can choose which side to belong. In past foreign policy of protectism has worked very now EU is worried the motto: poor nations are coming and taking away our high standard of living. Only those who will position themselves well we win this race. China, Russia, India are leading while others are losing. India has taken ICT innovations firms in USA demand on India to buy their products and services. Even buying a PIZZA you have to go thru a call center in India. The worker momitor the movement of the suppiers thru GSM positioning. If you call and asked why my Pizza has delayed you be given appropiate answer like traffic. Zambia has to do something on duty and taxes to attract more investment. We need Processing Industries.

187. Chapi # 185,
     Never mind of our heated moments sometimes. That is healthy politics at best as long as we don’t hatchet each other the Sata way, we cool! About prevailing tax regimes, I hear you and BOMA has already taken that song from our like minds I hear so.

     I also hope for the best in 2008 because rewarding opportunities are in Zed as long as you know what you are doing; you are locked in the money. I have been lining up my big Dollar business interests in Zed too with a lot of inflow shaping up the dream. Hope our interests could along the way converge at some point of development.

     But tell you what…let us reverberate our concerns the more before your friend ba Pragmatist ebamakwebo muchibote chachalo. That is the only assuring way we could be impacting the planning and resource allocation we will be seeing henceforth towards the 2030 vision. Young Graduates are taking up strategic positions as PS to Directors. It is a test for the young ones we the madala should be keen to see the destiny of the nation. As long we are being empowered and building wealth no issues.

188. SMALL SCALE MINERS AIDED

     President Mwanawasa says government will not allow Small Scale Miners to remain in poverty while foreigners take away their wealth.Mr. Mwanawasa said the government will help small scale miners add value to their gemstones.
     He was speaking on arrival at Ndola International airport, Tuesday.Mr. Mwanawasa said setting up a Gemstone and Lapidary Training Centre will help small scale miners.He said it was sad to see miners selling their gemstones at a fraction of their true value because they had no added value.
     Mr. Mwanawasa urged Zambians to make full use of the lapidary centre and realize the true value of their stones.The president also warned against letting foreigners take over the lapidary centre.

189. Lusaka, August 21, ZANIS – Speaker of the National Assembly Amusa Mwanamwambwa today seriously reprimanded Nkana Patriotic Front (PF) Member of Parliament Mwenya Musenge for breaching parliamentary etiquette and privileges through his unparliamentary behavior at the National Assembly Motel in January this year. The Speaker has also severely warned Members of Parliament to desist from using riddles, innuendoes and insinuations during debates in the house as they risk being misunderstood. Mr. Mwenya’s admonishment by the speaker follows a report by the committee on privileges and absences for threatening violence on Namwala Member of Parliament Robby Chizyuka on January 18, this year. Mr. Mwenya allegedly physically assorted Major Chizyuka and poured a glass of alcohol on him at the National Assembly Motel on the material day after accusing him of calling Patriotic Front leader Micheal Sata a ‘Dog and that Mr. Sata was a ‘mad person’.

190. Chapi,
     When i say PF is a party of thugs you think i’m being malicious??? In 1991 to appease Chiluba Sata crafted a stupid and self cursing song “Chiluba mpeleko Wheelbarrow nsendelepo Kaunda ishilu”. That was the beginning of all this curse of running a party of thugs. Even at his Graveyard there will be all thugs fighting each other and insulting.

191. #190 hahahaha iyo walipena washipikisha fye, ala wansekesha sana

192. #191 These are A men ba Veteran, the man should link up with Dr. Jose pa Radio 4. No something different Kuku The Europe Pension are colapsing. Read this and relate to our problems with ZESCO and ZISC. Europe” still awaits its constitution so it’s difficult to see how something that is yet to exist can face a crisis, however…. If we all take up smoking again and relax the “smoking in public places” laws, it will ease the pension burden in all countries of the European Union. Lets face it – too many people are living to too great an age. Let us all resolve to die earlier and therby save the planet. Can you remember in our last blogging where I mentioned the problems that the west face compared to africa. Power shortage will not occur but these problems are scaring. Advocating to die early

193. Would you please give us an estamated power down time for Gansbaai area. Our printers are blowing fuses or computer information being lost be cause of power cuts Since Monday.

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