The United Party for National Development (UPND) extra ordinary
general assembly has approved the recommendation by the National Management Committee(NMC) to have four Vice Presidents.
The Four Vice Presidents will be in charge of Administration, Economics, Politics and Gender.
In a statement to ZANIS in Lusaka today, UPND Chairperson for Information and Publicity Charles Kakoma also disclosed that the NMC has expanded from 42 to 51 members, while the National Executive Committee (NEC) has increased the number from 17 to 30.
He added that the provincial Management Committee has also been expanded from 14 to 33 and similar expansions have also been made at District, Constituency, Ward and Branch levels.
He further disclosed that the Assembly resolved to recognize the pact between the Patriotic Front (PF) and UPND.
Mr. Kakoma stated that the Assembly has also approved the recommendations by the NMC which are aimed at working together with PF and liberating the Zambian people from the ruling Movement for Multi party Democracy (MMD).
He noted that the pact will also have two Deputy Secretary Generals, one in charge of Administration and the other for Politics and two Deputy Treasurer Generals for Accounts and Resource mobilisation.
Others will be two National Chairpersons for Publicity and Information one in charge of Media Relations and the other for Propaganda and Internal Communication.
The Pact will also have three Deputy National Chairpersons for Women Affairs of which each one of them will be in charge of three Provinces and there will also be three Deputy National Chairpersons for Youth Affairs, each of whom will be in charge of three provinces.
Mr. Kakoma said the committee also approved to have twelve National Trustees adding that the Party President has been empowered to nominate a Director of Research, National Coordinator, Senior Advisor to the President and nine other nominees.
He explained that these appointed by the President are meant to balance regional, gender and disability issues which are subject to ratification by the NMC.
He has however said all the new positions created will be filled soon.
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Why not make every UPND member to become a member of the NEC
Yes progress.
Ok! It appears to be a progressive change of direction.All the best
What is this?
we can now see how huge the UNDP government is gonna get, all these positions what for??
A sign of a blotted government to be esablished and going contrary to small cbinet. These a singns of diverting from the focused agenda Mazoka had. Shame on you HH.
Hope we won´t be having four VP´s when you guys get into office cos it might end been a costy thing.We have a situation we have alot of dudes holding high offices and all want to have big bellies at the expense of the nation
Nambala 4 has asked the right question: what the (beep!) is this?
there is money to be considered here? better if the three other vices will be paid equivalent to MPs and the one for administration be paid as the normal vice president would be paid.. we dont have the money for all the four pliz!
Someone tell me why we still talk about gender in Africa? I remember boys and girls having different cut-off marks. I hope this has been done away with.
Why do they need four vice presidents?It is just as good as making everyone in the party a vice president.
gentlemen lets be serious,how do you have four vice presidents in a poor country like zambia
look at the cost that is associated with the position.once more lets be serious
Hold on guys,
Being in opposition is involving.People need to use their own resorces and share responsibilities.Its the govenment that must reduce in size because they use tax payers money.
VIVA HH.
UPND,lets be seroius how can you have 4 vice presidents.Be decisive
banshi bonse abo…..can someone help me?
ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BECOZ OF SATANNYOKO AND HIS PEOPLE..WHO WANT TO RULE IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY!
#10 3rq “women should be on top” was coined by Vera when she was first lady. So it has come to pass. Next, HISTORY will became PERSTORY to remove male chauvenism because of “HIS” in that word
THIS WILL END UP BEEN LIKE KENYA!
Uku kubuta bane. How can you seriously have 4 Veeps? Do we want to enter the Guiness Book of World Records?
Bamukolwe ngabafula tabucha bwangu – When there are too many roosters, morning doesn’t come quickly.
Too many roosters delay the morning
VP for politics
VP for finance
VP for youths VP for genda VP for ba police
VP for security
VP for education
VP for commerce
the list goes own
Those who were thinking the Sata/HH pact is there for zambian are in for a rude shock. These chaps are there for the jobs, look at how they have started givin themselves these jobs.
Yashani iyi? What kind? Four Veeps for what? or as per Nigerian “4 why now??”
I beg to be schooled in the logic and practicability of all this.Then I prezume the PF will also propoze 5 vice presidents and so on so that the PF/UPND pact will the come up with so many posts for the combined force??
the pic looks nice. so far maestro hasnt contributed and i have read all comments with pleasure. change yo style dude
Opposition parties need committed members who will give out free time to the party and resources.
You may as well divide Zambia in 4 sectors!! LOL
Who will be the President of the president?
numabala 27 hide that baby.. kuli ama court clerks apa pa site!… by the way do you guys have jobs?? always commenting pa LT..when do you work?
Who will be the VP of all Vice Presidents?
Numbala 29 !! tulabomba mudala! Just got paid lelo.
nothing wrong with having more than one VP. If it is done right, it should focus each of them on a separate issue. I think HH & co. have the right idea on this one. Atleast they are being proactive about the issue. I am sick of the MMD
Get ready for bigger govt when UPND come to power. Big govt means more govt spending.
and I think we need to give this one time to see where it is heading. calm down bloggers.
JAMACO NUMBA LA 29..TUNWE TUNWE
# 32, what about making everyone in the part a VP??
Decentralization is the Key !! Too much government is not good!! This is a clear waste of resources!!
Yes, the more positions you create the more arguments will ensue if you form govt. Each of those four Vice presidents will be hoping to be veep and if you leave them out, they will start fermenting trouble. It appears we all want the top job at all costs including those who fully know they cant handle it. All this is happening because we allowed one monkey Fraudulent Chipuba Chiluba to rule us. Very interesting scenrio and now that monkeys are making MMD officials dance to their tune, one wonders what is in store for Zambia. You killed LPM and now monkeys are asking you to account at every fora. Mpombo, are your hands clean? RB, are your hands clean? Is that the reason you two cried at the church service?
4 veeps?yashani naimwe mwatampa…we thought you are here for a change.nomba if mwatampa bane ifya ma veep 4, muletutinya. we’l start thinking you there for the jobs and not the Zambian people.you come up with 4 veeps,PF will come with 8 veeps.and then who’s gona vote for such a pact?Londololeni bwino before we change our minds!!!!
#36… I don’t think one VP can handle all the Administration, Economics, Politics and Gender issues facing the country.. so yes, I think it is a good move to try and divide them up among 4. This is decentralizing.
Honestly pipo four Veeps for what? This is why i have little faith in this pact coz everyone wants to be on top three.
#32
Cîroc In my opinion just on this one i would rather take the RB way of setting up committes to deal with various matters. You do not need to be a Veep to get the job, why not give a chiarmanship to someone to handle administration, or economy or maybe its just that they are getting big headed thinking they have already won and re trying to secure positions.
To me sorry this does not make sense maybe just remove the Veep title to there responsibilities
tha photo looks gay
BUT NAYIMWE A PROBLEM ABENA ZAMBIA MULA CONCLUDA! WAIT TILL THEY GIVE THE REASONS AND HOW IT IS GOING TO FUNCTION.. HOW DO U KNOW MAY BE IT WILL FUNCTION AS THE WISE GUY IN NUMBALA 9 SUGGESTED
# 5, I think you have hit the nail on the head. I am really afraid if this is the way this party is going to take, I would think we are headed for a very troublesome times even after removing MMD. This is a very big top heavy organization that does not only spend its resources on maintaining and appeasing its officials, but usurps the little that MMD will leave and spread it out among officials. This is headed for a failure. This party must be growing the grassroots and not the top officials. There should be ways to expand the party rather than expanding officials. This seems like it’s going to be a problem in the nearest future of UPND. 4 VP’s, who becomes Republican VP if at all they win? Why not have 6 Presidents too if that is the way they think they can govern?
c.i.a I hear you on that one. Maybe the issue here is the title “Vice President” scares a lot of people. We might as well call them “Committee Chairmen”.. but at the end of the day, they will be accomplishing the same thing.
Bane lets be serious,HH you have been on course almost all the way, why have 4 VPs whose misleading you? Comeon you man be the person we’ve known
Maawe [Expresses surprise at the terrible analysis by some bloggers]! As the sun in setting in Zambia and night begins to take effect, letting those who depend on Internet Cafes and job working hours bloggers leave us who are privileged to blog in the might, I am here to unleash some educative data to those with sober assimilating analytical minds.
On “ The United Party for National Development (UPND) extra ordinary general assembly has approved the recommendation by the National Management Committee(NMC) to have four Vice Presidents“, this is very wise from the General Assemby members of the mighty UPND. I salute you delegates for this great move.
Firstly, I will address the issue of a big UPND GRZ Adminitration concern whis is wrong.
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Four VPs ? WHY?
NUMBALA 48 IS A CHI SHUPU.. WHO THINKS HE IS PRIVILLEGED JUST BECOZ HE IS A KABOYI WHO THEY ALLOW TO USE INTERNET ONLY IN THE NIGHT
So UPND does have some kind of Central Committee. This is like the Iran. Who voted for those in the NMC? Are they appointed? I am afraid UPND is really headed for a failure. They need to move with time.
Continuing on Firstly, I will address the issue of a big UPND GRZ Adminitration concern whis is wrong. President HH made it clear during last year’s presidential bye-election campaigs that the mighty UPND was going to have a 15 member cabinet once elected to form GRZ in order to reduce government spending.
That cleared, I will proceed to the issue of the 4 UPND vice presidents starting with a simple example.
To those of you in Zambia, do you like it when there is only one cashier at Shoprite to serve you whicle you stand in long queues? Similarly, those in Europe can you inform me as to whether you like it to be served by only one cashier when you go buying things from LIDL or Auchan and other large shops?
Coming to the flow of being ..
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HOW DO U COMPARE A SHOP AND GOVERNMENT U PUNANI.. I BET U WORK MU SHOP
nice move twaitemwa!
Continuing on Coming to the flow of being .. served by 10 cashiers when you are in Shoprite, LIDL, Auchan, and others; how does that satisfy you as customers in terms of speed with which you are cleared from standing in long queues and also efficiency with regard to the shop owners?
Do doesn’t like efficiency in discharging duties? “Think, before you ink” is what my former history teacher used to tell us in my class.
In light of this revelation, I commend president HH and the UPND General Assembly for using managerial tools to make the mighty UPND successful in its quest to reach all Zambian people across the nation. This is true leadership in a dynamic society following changing times.
Bloggers must bear in mind that a party is …
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EXACTLY YOUR HISTORY TEACHER TOLD U THAT COZ ALL Y’ALL WERE DUMB ASSSES..
only one person in zed has comented on….why…?
4 VP’s huh…??
everyones gotta get paid…!!
Zed is not goin anywhere…!!
Continuing on Bloggers must bear in mind that a party is … is not necessarily a GRZ. This is why MMD National Chairman Michael Mabenga and Secretary General Katele Kalumba are in in the MMD President RB Banda GRZ Administration while characters like Minister Mike Mulongoti, a nominated MP following the National Assembly website data, are in Government.
Bloggers must learn to read widely and take note how parties in the developed world run differently from governments even when those parties are the ruling party of countries.
It is in against this background that the mighty UPND leadership as done a good move to take a great proposal to its membership at the General Assembly who nice enough unanimously adopted the proposal.
On for the other …
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I hope it is an attempt to have more voices heard during the campaign cos for now it is only HH who seems to be doing the talking!
Continuing on On for the other … issues, I will dissect the as presented in the news following my usual manner below.
The “The Four Vice Presidents will be in charge of Administration, Economics, Politics and Gender” is their to easy the pressure on Mr Kapita. As a matter of fact, the mighty UPND had 2 vice presidents under late former President Anderson Kambela Mazoka. Thus, the 4 vice presidents will not just sit idle as in the case of PF where no one knows what Guy Scott does or in the MMD’s case where a vice president does not exist due to failure to elect leaders democratically.
The 4 will each be useful tools to the party by doing something. In fact, I would have requested for 9 vice presidents from each province of Zambia.
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Maestro, the issue of cashiers can be answered depending on the side of aisle you are. It cost efficient on the side of the corporation. It is like having all these cashiers standing doing nothing as they wait for customers. The issue becomes manpower cost. So, have one until such a time that you really need them. Does UPND need all these indunas, MCC’s, top heavy management, and on top of that PF will bring their own crew. Man, this is too much. This a problem considering that the Pact is at its infancy. PF at the moment is scratching its head. More over it is UPND that needs PF, not PF. I think they needed to consult on this one.
This is okay as the vice presidents will pump inn their monies to keep the opposition front moving.
Continuing on In fact, I would have requested for 9 vice presidents from each province of Zambia. This would have made them feed necessary data to the president as Governers work in US federal system where they manage the affairs of one state.
Anyhow, coming back to the 4 veeps. The one for Administration will take care of it while the one for economics with focus on reading family economics, micro-economics, macro-economics and how Zambia fares on the International scene especially SADC regional block; the Politics one will take care of issues to do with the PF-UPND PACT and the grassroots; and lastly the Gender one will have to take care of how to balance the 50/50 % gender balance in the UPND positions as well as girl children in the Nation.
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As for “He further disclosed that the Assembly resolved to recognize the pact between the Patriotic Front (PF) and UPND” this has clearly disproved Minister of Justice Vice President George Kunda’s statement about the grassroots not being consulted by the UPND leadership on joing hands with PF to form the PACT that has caused the MMD entire leadership to be gittery. I hope the prophets of doom will begin to take the Dennis Liwewe approach of “let us wait and see” instead of comforting themselves in the face of UPND-PF PACT build-up for a batter Zambia.
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maestro we can all read..pliz stop that copy and pasting..are u that slow?? u are iritating..kwati lunshi pa mafii
maestro we can all read..please stop that copy and pasting..are u that slow?? u are irritating..kwati lunshi pa mafeee
Its the first of its kind.Prince cobra at it b 4 even being usherd into office.This is the kind of a president you want to vote for? pleeassee!Lets be serious with out ourselves.Currently as a swing voter ,Iam forced to think Akapondo is calling for a noble cause in Prof. Clive Chirwa.The man if voted into MMD will sort out the mess and chart the way forward.Its like these oppostion once they assume office, they will first want to clear their debts they have incurred while struggling to get power and it wont be different from the chiluba affair.I therefore find it appaling for HH to have a bloated vice presidency and once they asssume office,at whose expense? watch out for this Luanshya Mine plunderer.
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On “He noted that the pact will also have two Deputy Secretary Generals, one in charge of Administration and the other for Politics and two Deputy Treasurer Generals for Accounts and Resource mobilisation“, this move will boost the efficiency of the party’s Secretary General. This follows from President HH’s campaign message that Zambians are generally lazy and their work culture must be changed for the better. Hence, no one will be entertained to lie IDLE and let work sleep in the UPND.
At this juncture, it is imperative for me to make mention that I welcome the rumours I am hearing that Patrick Chisanga may be re-joining the mighty UPND to beef up the National U-Team.
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On “Others will be two National Chairpersons for Publicity and Information one in charge of Media Relations and the other for Propaganda and Internal Communication“, this one is necessary to counter the efforts by the MMD cadres to cheat on the Internet that UPND has only 15 MPs or that UDA obtained 22 MPS instead of about 25 MPs from UPND, FDD and UNIP.
As a matter of fact, I would have fitted well to fill the position of National Chairperson for Propaganda and Internal Communication, but for my being an Independent analyst of Zambian Politicals while I focus on standing as an Independent MP in the area near kwa-Hamunyone where the hills have a road that connects through to Zimbabwe withgot 26 corners.
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Thats madness this is what you get when you have low calibre people who cant handle things in one head.what a waste of human resources,please let the other three Vice president find something to do or else they better just remain cadres,lost generation in a fast pace world.
HH is confused with what the riddle “four heads better than one”
Just great , a leader thats going to be a deputy wants 4 deputies …the irony in the air is so thick that you can chew on it. A disaster Ab Initio
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On “The Pact [sic: UPND party] will also have three Deputy National Chairpersons for Women Affairs of which each one of them will be in charge of three Provinces and there will also be three Deputy National Chairpersons for Youth Affairs, each of whom will be in charge of three provinces“, this is expected to make sure that there is a National presence of the U-Team across Zambia to disprove the regional attacks from MMD.
On “Mr. Kakoma said the committee also approved to have twelve National Trustees adding that the Party President has been empowered to nominate a Director of Research, National Coordinator, Senior Advisor to the President and nine other nominees, such are good positions. I’d fit in!
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On “He explained that these appointed by the President are meant to balance regional, gender and disability issues which are subject to ratification by the NMC“, such is needed to make sure that the campaign to all parts of Zambia continues steadily in the face of possible elections of 2011 MP and presidential candidate of the PF-UPND PACT in all the 150 constituencies of Zambia.
Great stuff and lovely picture president HH, vice president Richard Kapita and Spokesperson Kakoma.
Please, maintain the pressure on the MMD GRZ and bring back the alternative National budget that I used to enjoy from the late A.K. Mazoka led UPND.
2 year to 2011 tripartite electons is enough time to have a national cadre-ship to reckon with.
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Four what for? Reminds me of UNIP.
Bwana Maestro, it takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why you did it wrong. Look at how many postings it has taken you to explain this issue. Consider how had it is to change yourself and you will understand what little chance you have of trying to change others. Bwana, we have made up our minds. UPND has made a mistake and nothing you will say has the power to change our perception about this blunder. Top heavy organizations are now just part of our history books. If you UPND wants to live in the past, yes they will and we will not part of it. Lean is better. In Bemba we say, bamukolwe ngabafula, ubushiku tabucha bwangu. Instead of trying to grow his top team, HH must work on the attitude of his people. There’s nothing wrong with UPND, but attitude within ranks
This is not going to work. Who takes over if Prince snake dies? As some have said, they should be concentrating on winning the grass roots in areas where they dont have support not making bloated administrative systems. This all adds up to inefficiency and endless meetings. Prince njoka you can do better I give you a C-
Four? In a way it is creating employment. lol!
Bushe bena ba Maestro balabelenga amaposts yaba nabo? He just wont be told.
yangu! 4 vice presidents! Welcome to Zambia the real Africa indeed. surely when we went to school we were trained to multitask with efficiency- we had about 8 subjects which some of us aced. Is this job creation or what? I guess that scripture is true – you shall know them by their fruits.I certainly would vote such a circus.
Looks like there will be more VPs than party members. Then they will be arguments which will create factions and infighting and nothing will change for the majority of our people.
But you are one and the same person!
Bwana Maestro, it takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why did it wrong. Do you see how many postings it is taking you to explain this blunder? Give up brother. Top heavy organizations now below in our history books. If that is the way UPND wants to go, they will be part of history soon. So, tell HH that this move will make his party part of UNIP, ANC, UPP, Chama Chakomboka party, and others that are just on paper but have a following of family members only. It is sad that UPND wants to reduce opposition to MMD by killing themselves. They should not.
In case a president dies, elections have to be held as it happened when Mazoka died. The only good thing in this new approach is that no one will feel like he or she is entitled to inherit the presidency the way Mr Sakwiba Sikota was taught nicely in a race that left him bitter.
This is a clear indication to some PACT members that a monarch type of leadership is not acceptable in the UNPD but elections will allow people to hold positions legitimately.
I hope PF will also organise itself in preparation for possible Nationwide 150 constituency elections that I proposed to choose PF and UPND MPs and UPND-PF PACT presidential candidate for the 2011 tripartite elections.
Have a blessed day you all.
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HH is out of ideas. That is why he has formed a pact with Sata. He should have used this time to build up support around the country and paint himself as a new generation politician unlike the two old madalas. Zambia’s population is bottom heavy in that there are more young people than old in the population. He should gone down that route instead of this regrogressive one he is taking. It is a shame as he has missed a great opportunity to bring about change to Zambia.
Call this oppposition?
Very untrue. Sakwiba’s bitterness did not come from losing the Party Presidency, but the way the party conducted its affairs on tribal lines. Sakwiba was isolated and made to fend for himself even after working tirelessly to grow UPND. It should be told here that if that is one fear UPND has, it should make its succession procedures clear and free of meddling. That is want constitutions are for. One other advise I can give to my brother Maestro is, don’t ever be afraid to admit you are wrong. It is like saying you’re wiser today than you were yesterday. So, brother, please accept. This is wrong.
UPND is officially in a pact with PF. It seems odd to me that they are making such fundamental changes unilaterally. How are all these changes going to fit in with the PF administration? This is why I think that the pact is more cosmetic than fundamental and is very weak indeed.
C’mon guys!
Secretary of Administration,
Secretary of Economics,
Secretary of Politics and
Secretary of Gender.
Would this have been better?
Four Vice Presidents in UPND and another four from PF and a joint presidency between the king Cobra and HH. It shall mean 90% of our GDP will be spent on maintaining these fat cats should they win elections in 2011. My advice, don’t vote for them and just insist that the monkeys (Teta Mashi, Mulongoti, etc) in MMD are shown the door and let sane people come to MMD with a clean president such as Prof. Clive Chirwa and then Zambia will be back on its feet again. We cant have a Kentan situation in Zambia and hope to develop, no ways. HH has run out of ideas and is now acting like a truant School boy – Kozwa mulumbwana weee.
86 Kalos2020 greetings. Consider yourself blessed for me to waste my time responding to you. On your “One other advise I can give to my brother Maestro is, don’t ever be afraid to admit you are wrong. It is like saying you’re wiser today than you were yesterday. So, brother, please accept. This is wrong. provide proof for I only agree that I am wrong if facts are given – and in fact where I have doubt I always write that I stand to be correct or rather express doubt in the wording of my statement. Without proof, I humbly ask you to stay deluded.
And please, desist from insults. Your insults against senior were very bad for you personally and the Nationa. Learn to debate without following the way of the devil as presented in the Holy Bible.
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87 Mwana wa pa ngoma greetings. Just in case you missed the news on the fprmation of the PF-UPND PACT following your “It seems odd to me that they are making such fundamental changes unilaterally. How are all these changes going to fit in with the PF administration?” It was clearly indicated that the two parties remain as individual parties. The PF-UPND PACT only has a governing council (GC) which comprises of equal numbers of members from each party totalling 18.
So the PF-UPND PACT government is different from each iidividual party’s leadership. With this simple explanation, I urge the mighty UPND to start campaigning across the whole country and recruit more members. Such new members would play a role in voting for MPs and the presidential cand..
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just been talking to the prof.the genius clive chirwa.he says politics in zambia are a circus.four VPs?but he says every party has got the right to shape it’s own destiny.so he can’t comment. Big people.
HH with his Bourgeoisie megalomaniac mentality has just drifted UPND into a communist structural functionalist entity.Four Vice Presidents of a political party? Then if they ever joined with PF, we would be talking of 8 VP, 2 frictional Presidents of populist Bourgeoisie. To that will be nine paid ministers in every Government ministry?
This is extreme Confucius commune mentality at variance with democracy and social progress under any logic.Indeed only communist parties have such positions because they want to be more communal communist than others.
We all know that democratic parties like the MMD carry out internal elections to elect the president and vice-president and not appointments by tribally sown in President who turns into an appointing authority of 4 vice presidents, MCCs…
Prepare to hear more of such madness typical of megalomaniac communists:
VP for finance
VP for Monze
VP for Mapanza
VP for each of the 9 provinces
VP for cows and live stocks
VP for youths VP for Genda VP and cadres
VP for security
VP for insults on RB
VP for make Zambia ungovernable
VP for education
VP for FDI and Commerce
VP for Mines
I am a Moslem. Probably the bible might mean something else to me. Yes, I am blessed that you responded, but you did move to other issues leaving the topic aside even when you know that Senior Citizen/Serious was after my blood after I uncovered his guise and his rantings? Moreover, I have not insulted you and if I did I stand to be corrected. The issue about HH and 100 plus cabinet is our debate. Your vision probably is better but explain how this will work considering that they are now in a PACT. Do you really think (your undereducate as you refer to King Cobra) will let them usurp power just like that? It is like Hillary offering VP position to Obama even when he was in the lead. You can digress, but get back to the topic at a certain point.
#89, this one is funny. ‘HH has run out of ideas and is now acting like a truant School boy – Kozwa mulumbwana weee.’ Where did you get this one from? Are yiou a School teacher?
However, I totally agree with you. This UPND/PF circus will just confuse our children. There is no substance in it except fighting for the Presidency. But how Sata, without any morals, work with an ethical morally inclined HH? no wonder RB called their presidency Haka-Sata, meaning it will probably have two heads pulling in different directions – one for insults and the other pacifying the agrived. What a circus and mean while poverty levels will be sky rocketing. What a pity for mother Zambia!!!
95 Kalos2020 greetings. It is nice knowing that you are a moslem and to note that moslems resort to instults when they are challenged in a debate and can’t offer proof to their claims. On your “… you know that Senior Citizen/Serious was after my blood after I uncovered his guise and his rantings?“, have you ever read me insulting anyone on here LT even when they insult me and my father including my mother, brothers and sisters?
Your violent behaviour is a let down to society across the whole world and you must stop it. This is why I overlook your comments that have no proof because you can not reason with extremists. And so, I hope you will change for the better if you ever hope to read responses from me on your concerns.
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95 Kalos2020 on your “The issue about HH and 100 plus cabinet is our debate. Your vision probably is better but explain how this will work considering that they are now in a PACT.” refer to my posting #91 and if you are not satisfied call again.
On your “Do you really think (your undereducate as you refer to King Cobra) will let them usurp power just like that? This is nonsense for the PACT has a governing council which is separate from the two independent parties. FYI, after KAPOKO cried out about my now past usage of the pronoun Undereducate to refer his uncle, I have henceforth started using only educational qualifications on PF selfappointed honourable Sata MC (Sub B/Standard 4, unknown) just like I do for Clive Chirwa (PhD,UK).
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95 Kalos2020 on your “It is like Hillary offering VP position to Obama even when he was in the lead. You can digress, but get back to the topic at a certain point“, this example is misplaced for Hilary Clinton never did what you wrote and only elections sorted out the presidential candidacy nominee of the Democrats in favour of now President Obama B.H.. This is why as a Democrat, I have recommeded that the PACT conducts elections in all 150 constituencies of Zambia to elect MPs and the presidential candidate of the PF-UPND PACT regardless of past National election performances.
This is the only way which avoid that monarch issue of cheating another that I will leave power for you. Hilary Clinton did not use her past performance to let Obama relax.
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Do you mean extremists like some Tongas who only support HH even when his party has no direction? Do you some extremists who always insult Sata because he is not Tonga and call him by his level of education leaving substance aside? Do you mean the extremists who can reason on tribal lines despite the nation having tried to unite but others have failed because they are blinded by hate of those who belong to Bemba speaking group? Yes, you have been called names and all sorts of things. But remember your reaction to one thing will not be same by another person. I probably over reacted with Serious, but I do not regret that I had to defend myself. I am in America, the culture here is, you never bring my parents in any conversation. My parents a sacred. I ‘ll fight for them or die for.
Maestro, are you a bonafide UPND member? Then please advise HH that the direction the party has taken is totally embarassing. We may end up creating Vice Presidents for each Province and that will also tricle down to the branches. Effective parties or oraganisations limit the levels of bureaucracy but UPND is now increasing these levels making the decision making process very lengthy. I wonder what he hopes to achive with this structure if it is not only for tribal balancing reasons. I do not see its merits, can I be edcuated?
We want u to tell us the difference can make when elected! Save us those positions mwanamuchende
can you imagine having 4 george kunda,what for.let us not increase the number of bootlickers at the expense of taxpayers.
100 Kalos2020 on your “Do you mean extremists like some Tongas who only support HH even when his party has no direction?…“, provide proof otherwise this is the delusion I was writing about on you.
On “Yes, you have been called names and all sorts of things. But remember your reaction to one thing will not be same by another person.” Good you have recognised my level-headedness, but I don’t agree with your reaction issue. Following your “I probably over reacted with Serious, but I do not regret that I had to defend myself. I am in America, the culture here is, you never bring my parents in any conversation. My parents a sacred. I ‘ll fight for them or die for.” While I support you in your choice, I am in Germany and havent followed the behaviour…
#99. I think I should quit discussing this. When you don’t know what you are discussing, the best thing is to listen. So, Hillary did not offer Obama VP position? I really thought you research your discussions. Just like on VJ having attended Stanford University and being a Lord’s scholar. I see were you are coming from.
100 Kalos2020 continuing on your “I probably over reacted with Serious, but I do not regret that I had to defend myself. I am in America, the culture here is, you never bring my parents in any conversation. My parents a sacred. I ‘ll fight for them or die for.” While I [as a Seventh Day Adventist] support you in your choice, [but] I am in Germany and havent followed the behaviour here. This is because I value what I have been taught by my family and God’s true church.
Insultss simply do not pay in any form. They only destroy your mind ans chances of a reward from God — at the right time.
So, please show me and the rest of the world that moslems are sensible people. Stop being violent and debate with facts that can be sourced as opposed to insinuations…
105 Kalos2020 provide proof on your “So, Hillary did not offer Obama VP position? I really thought you research your discussions. Just like on VJ having attended Stanford University and being a Lord’s scholar. I see were you are coming from.” Show me that Obama is Hilary Clinton’s veep and give me a CV of VJ Mwaanga contrary to what I know. This way I will take you serious. As it is now, you are speculating without proof and this is why I mentioned that respoding to you is time wasting.
Can you use proof please and I am waiting!
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
@ #52 Maestro Hakucincha says
Stop using LIDL as an example its not that big and the customer service is crap
101 The Intelligentiagreetings, on your “Maestro, are you a bonafide UPND member?” Firstly do you read my postings? Secondly, I am not a UPND member. I am not even related to president HH or anyone in the UPND leadership!
I am a Seventh Day Adventist Christian who follows world politics as I believe that we as human are in the time of the end – see Daniel and Revelation of the Holy Bible. This is why I know what is going on in politics because I am preparing for the end of this world as Jesus Christ’s second coming is eminent and certain events have to beand are being fulfilled before that coming of our Lord and Saviour.
Ok!
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Now we are seeing logic at its best. Probably that’s why HH has expanded his top positions. This will work well with some parts of Zambia since the all team will be from that area. I have not mentioned a place. Probably Luapula or Northern Province. Ha ha ha ha ha. Zambia in the real Africa. Is it still in the sun? Uh, that place is hot. Sun.
HH has based his campaign all along on a lean govt. A big party hierarchy will lead to a big govt hierarchy . All the VPs will expect some big portfolio in govt. What is important at this stage is to look at the voter distribution at each polling station and target a door to door campaign at polling stations with a lot of voters and meet them in person. The UPND/PF pact has already got a head start on the line of rail and therefore more campaign emphasis should be on rural polling stations. This campaign strategy comes from none other than the master strategist himself, VJ, in his book, “The long sunset.” He concludes that there is a mistaken belief that rallies and public meetings win election. Something has to be done about the rural vote or else it will be more of the same.
Maestro, many thanks for your kind response. Greetings to you too. Well, I rest my case as you have answered my question fully. Since you are not a member of UPND, I directed the question to the wrong person. I will endeavour to ask the same questions to friends of mine in UPND. But nevertheless, what is your opinion on this UPND replicated structure?
101 The Intelligentia, on your “Effective parties or oraganisations limit the levels of bureaucracy but UPND is now increasing these levels making the decision making process very lengthy. I wonder what he hopes to achive with this structure if it is not only for tribal balancing reasons. I do not see its merits, can I be ed[uc]ated?” See posting #92 by AKAPONDO.
Otherwise, president HH is on record saying that UPND was going to form a 15 Member Cabinet even when it has 22 MPs in Parliament and president HH signed a SOCIAL CONTRACT FORM to show his seriousness.
Thus, the best you can do is wait and see how UPND will run.
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
112 The Intelligentia, on your “But nevertheless, what is your opinion on this UPND replicated structure?” please read all my postings above. I assure you that they are not many and have all my comprehensive thoughts on the new UPND party structure and issues related to PF.
Thus, have a blessed day and good, and go for it, on your “Since you are not a member of UPND, I directed the question to the wrong person. I will endeavour to ask the same questions to friends of mine in UPND.” It will be best, however, to contact the UPND Secretariat in Rhodes Park, Lusaka, Zambia, or HH website for a better standpoint of their party.
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
111 Senior Engineer RTDgreetings and are you serious on your “What is important at this stage is to look at the voter distribution at each polling station and target a door to door campaign at polling stations with a lot of voters and meet them in person” in relation to “This campaign strategy comes from none other than the master strategist himself, VJ, in his book, “The long sunset.”“?
I have never read The Long Sunset, but I championed the Door-to-Door in last year’s presidential bye-elections. If it is true then that VJ wrote about door-to-door before I coined it, then GREAT MINDS SURELY THINK ALIKE….
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto…
Continuing on I have never read The Long Sunset, but I championed the Door-to-Door in last year’s presidential bye-elections. If it is true then that VJ wrote about door-to-door before I coined it, then GREAT MINDS SURELY THINK ALIKE… My mother told me that we as a family are related to Mr VJ Mwaanga but we have never met him in person. This your revelation has caused impetus in me to finally seek an audience with VJ Mwaanga, the man with arguably an unmatch GRZ experience todate.
It is only sad that some people claim without proof that VJ Mwaanga rigs elections, the man lost to Katele Kaluba (PhD, USA?) clean game. Impressive.
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
ma rubbish… it is the point of a Gender Vice president. Before you start dealing with gender issues deal with the fact that both men and women are hungry, homeless and uneducated. I had high hopes for this party but I am disappointed as of today, looks more like people wanting jobs for them and their bululus!
Tell me you will have only 4 vice presidents and take away all the useless ministries, but rather what is this 4 vice, 2 deputies, 2 secretaries, etc. Dear God why cant we have decent leaders, just this once I pray!
#75 you are amusing! Ati bamukolwe ngabafula ibushiku tabucha bwangu.Literally,you are right, I was Iat the village recently and my Mbuya has a lot of cocks and I must agree with you that cocks (When they are many) can start crowing as early early as around 01:OO coz they are too many and have issues among themselves.Lucky enough for me ,two notorious mukombwes were slaughtered for me and were tasty and thereby reducing the conflict.
visiting researcher in Germany.spending more time quarrelling on the blog than in the actual field.you tend to wonder what some people research on.because people like the prof who are true reserchers even switch of their mobile phones when they are on research.
The day when LT will mistakenly review the bloggers’ names will be the day we will know who lies about what they do and what they are. You know some lies are convincing even to the liers.
118 AKAPONDO greetings and funny indeed on your “visiting researcher in Germany.spending more time quarrelling on the blog than in the actual field.you tend to wonder what some people research on.because people like the prof who are true reserchers even switch of their mobile phones when they are on research.” Some people have to read something very simple over and over (dull), but naturally intelligent ones never panic.
Ask my former classmates at UNZA and in the other four universities I have been and they will tell you how I wokr and pass. In fact, I give all praise to the good Lord God, my creative, for all He has done for me. I do not panic, but results show.
FYI, my former secondary school mates call me small computer. Ask around and you will find out.
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118 AKAPONDO, you may also ask the shushushus for I believe they know me and this is why they do not dispute my claims.
“Ask my former classmates at UNZA and in the other four universities I have been and they will tell you how I work and pass. In fact, I give all praise to the good Lord God, my creator, for all He has done for me. I do not panic, but results show. is the correct form. I have to cut a few things to make the space in 120.
119 Kalos2020, ask LT for my details and tell LT that I gave you permission to have them.
Also, visit UNZA Physics Department and find out from my former lecturers who are still there.
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Whatever…!!! Even 20 Vice Presidents, bring them on! We are prepared for 2011. I’m not going to vote for a chap whop is already unnecessarily expanding his government right in middle of a global economic recession! It says a lot about what he will do with your money when he gets to power…He will waste it! Take heed right now and walk away!
Brother Maestro Hakucincha,
Is HH Gay or what? I ask because of his compromising posture with Richard Kapita.They look to be in carnal relationship beyond political tier.Aren’t they man and woman or wife and husband promoting the gay rights in UPND.?
Brother Maestro Hakucincha,
Is HH queer theory student I bibi nabwana) or what? I ask because of his compromising posture with Richard Kapita.They look to be in seriously c.a.r.n.a.l relationship beyond political tier.Aren’t they man and woman or wife and husband promoting their g.a.y rights in UPND.?
Brother Maestro Hakucincha,
Is HH G.a.y or what? I ask because of his compromising posture with Richard Kapita.They look to be in carnal relationship beyond political tier.Aren’t they man and woman or wife and husband promoting the g.a.y rights in UPND.?
this is rediculous 4 vps, where on earth have you seen such a thing? i know two heards are better than one but four it’s too much. where are you going to find the money to pay them. be serious HH. i thought you were an intelligent person but it seems you are 4teeen. with the combination of SATA everything is becoming sour. the next think you and SATA are going to think is dictatorship.
to make matters worse you don’t know who will be the leader of the nation if you two guyz win.
they are Tongas who when visitin they come 6-10 from villiage…so no surprise
I THINK I AM BEGININING TO FALL IN LOVE WITH MISS DAISY
iwe numbala 127 how sad are you to fall for just a face , it just shows you don’t get women in real life. ndiwe balu ku engi bamene ba konda ma gonga muletusebanya
RUSSIAN KGB NUMBA 126.. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THIS NONSENSI HAS BEEN CAUSED BY SATANYOKKO AND HIS THUGZ! DONT BLAME TONGAS WHO ARE FEEDING YOUR LAZY HAIRY BUMZ YOU GET ME YOU EXCUSE OF A HUMAN BEING… THIS ISSUE WAS VOTED ON DEMOCRATICALLY AND SO MY FRIEND THAT IS WHAT THE COMMON VIEW WAS FROM EACH PARTY..THATS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS HATE OR LOVE..I UNDERSTAND U BEING IN RUSSIA YOU THINKING IS A BUT BACKWORD AND FULL OF COMMUNISM.. PEOPLE WHO THINK IN TERMS TRIBES DO NOT FIT TO BE IN A DOG SOCIETY EVEN.. YOU SORRY CASE
NUMBALA 128.. I HAVE SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES FROM CHILD HOOD..AND HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF SLEEPING AND DATING DIFFERENT RACES.. DONT JUST COME UP HERE AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS IN THE UK AND STILL STINKING OF ZAMBIAN KAFUNGO AND TELL ME THAT I AM EMBARRASING YOU..CAREFUL YOU MIGHT NOT GET YOUR VISA EXTENSION IF YOU ARE PLAYING..YOUR IP ADDRESS AINT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT… FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION I AM DATING A VERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN WHO I PLAN ON MARRYING SOON BUT YOU KNOW A MAN WILL OWAYS BE A MAN..AND SO I JUST WANT TO FYANTA KA DAISY.WHATS WRONG WITH THAT? IF YOU DONT HAVE GAME OR MONEY IT AINT MY FAULT..JUST DONT HATE ON ME..STEP UP YO GAME
At the rate this is going I wouldn’t be surprised if we had two PRESIDENTS!
This is an insidious idea, which shows that the UNDP/PF Pact has failed to reach common ground. To them this is about power-sharing period.
I had started to dislike MMD, but I might have to change my mind again!
I think in the long term MMD will be vindicated even under RB’s rule.
numbala 130 visa extended I have a maroon one mate? you hang around illi’s maybe dats why you think we all have visa problems. U are the same ones marrying to get vima paper .U are just a kambwanga here ur attitude just shows i doubt u even went far in life because you sound like the typical combonic zambia that washes pots
MY DEAR FRIEND I AM VERY WELL EDUCATED AND CONSIDER MY SELF ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATED ZAMBIANS IN THIS COUNTRY.. I AM IN ONE OF THE TOP 3 UNIVERISTIES IN THE UK AT THE MOMENT.. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF.. I CAN EDUCATE YOU AND YOUR FATHER IF YOU DIDNT KNOW
#133 uzinama you are probably at a polytechnic or those kebab shop colleges that give out student visa’s. Your lack of knowledge and childlike temperament leave me to belive you clean toilets as a career. you are by far the dumbest person on this blog with verbal diarrhoea, noti kunama because uli pa internet . You simple lack of maturity shows that you are allergic to books and probably just went upto form 5 and then migrated here scared of going back because uzafa njala
#133 you are probably at a polytechnic or those kebab shop colleges that give out student visa’s. Your lack of knowledge and childlike temperament leave me to belive you clean toi lets as a career. you are by far the dumbest person on this blog with verbal cholera, noti kunama because uli pa internet . You simple lack of maturity shows that you are allergic to books and probably just went upto form 5 and then migrated here scared of going back because uzafa njala
WHEN A DOG IS BARKING CRAP SOMETIMES ITS GOOD TO JUST IGNORE IT IF YOU CANT KICK IT IN THE FACE
hahahah ndiwe ngwele ati UNIVERISTIES , what kind of student can’t spell University yaba . Just wash pots and pika the nkote’s then buy some marks and spencer for the people in zambia. You sound like an Illi don’t worry when taken back kuli nchito kuma farm yo lima
ya how old are you you ignorant child!? thats what you call a typing error.. why should i construct my spellings correctly for an I.diot like you.. who are you?
i see someone argueing with themselves lol
CIA YOU CAN LICK MY HAIRY OILY BALLZ ASWELL
Imwe bangwele 136 & 137 ichindikeni
Ati child mwana I am your worst night mare. that was no typing error you chi ko po cha beans that was your poor upbringing kwa kanyama showing. Ndi we claimer ati university hehehe if u clean toilets muma university doesn’t mean you are a student.
hehehe sunga kwa nis e illi iwe, just because u clean toilets at uni doesn’t make u a student. Ba CIA momeni kab ova uyu walai no respect for elders. Chi walai ndiwe cha doti ununka chusi
hehehe walai you illegal I am your worst nightmare, show respect I might give you a job to pipa my dogs
imwe ndimwe muna bwela kudala nama visa yo lemba na pen heehe
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(male) hooker or is it striper
ASK YO FADA
yaba buti vibantu vama combon so you think you are the only one with a passport that travels ? Nzelu zau cilu zamene izo true ballers don’t have to speak to show their wealth only small timers like you do that. If I start to tell you my family name that alone can bury your whole generation even from 50 years from now. You must have been fertilised from a tailess sperm whose genetic capabilities were from the shallow end of positive attributes.
#48, 52…..64, 68….121…etc, Maestro Hakucincha: So you have been to school and educated—-wow!!!! Hard to tell from your everyday “blah, blah, blah, blah,” postings; partner!!!! Why take up all this “blog real state” if other readers just going to ignore what you put up??!! But again, who am I to judge, right?????
As for the 4 VPs in UPND: An “African political circus at its best”!!! Who in the hell needs four As for the 4 VPs in UPND: An “African political circus at its best”!!! Who in the hell needs four VPs to run a government (Party or otherwise)?? And some people thought a college degree should be a prerequisite for the Presidency—–how do you people feel now after this nonsense from this fellow, HH and his flock?! Where is he gonna get the money to remunerate all these high “do-nothing” cabinet officers, and have some money left over to fairly compensate Nurses, Doctors, Lecturers, Teachers, etc? Mark my words, this is not just going to end at Party level when these guys get elected. And what is PF (King Cobra) saying about all this nonsense?? Hard to believe even a village…
I am not sure what happened in my #148 posting, bellow is what I meant to say:
As for the 4 VPs in UPND: An “African political circus at its best”!!! Who in the hell needs four VPs to run a government (Party or otherwise)?? And some people thought a college degree should be a prerequisite for the Presidency—–how do you people feel now after this nonsense from this fellow, HH and his flock?! Where is he gonna get the money to remunerate all these high “do-nothing” cabinet officers, and have some money left over to fairly compensate Nurses, Doctors, Lecturers, Teachers, etc? Mark my words, this is not just going to end at Party level when these guys get elected. And what is PF (King Cobra) saying about all this nonsense?? Hard to believe even a village chief would have come up with something this stupid!!!
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yaba uli chipuba for real I am now going to make the chindondo for you ati chimbwe of the century. 10 houses in the Uk and 70 pa zed hehehehe I know the richest families in zambia and none of them even have that many houses. You are very silly to think your internet lies would fly with me . First ati university manje ati 70 houses hehehehe Maybe you think holes in the ground where you dig for rats are houses hehehehe
YA YOU FALA YOU PAUPER.. HOW MANY HOUSES DOES SATA HAVE? THATS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU LOW CLASS I.DIO.TS YOU DONT CHILL WITH BIG BALLERS SO YOU DONT KNOW WHATS HAPPENING..I DONT BLAME YOU.. MY FRIEND YOU DONT KNOW ALOT.. YOU DONT KNOW WHICH PEOPLE RUN ZAMBIA..U THINK VA PRESIDENT HAS POWERS YEAH? UARE IN FOR A SHOCK.. I CANT FORCE YOU TO BELIEVE.. I KNOW WHAT I HAVE AND YOU KNOW THE LITTLE YOU HAVE
Danger, danger, danger, there is blood on the dance floor!! A fight between ‘nsonsonso’ and ‘nsonsonso’ has gotten unnecessarily vicious and out of control, please call the cops!! Geeeeeeeessssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#152, you are right. sounds like they have run out of ideas.. sounds so bizarre!! four VP’s???? my foot!!!
#155 yaba Sata doesn’t even have more than 15 houses you nincumpoop. The avondale J close house, the omelo mumba road house …don’t throw stones at the elite you lowlife. If I tell you about Sata’s assets I will just end up shaming you . You are a confused ***** who lives in a matrix of lies you need a blue choloquin pill to get you out of your confused state. KK , the van blerks or even ben mwila don’t have 70 houses. Chimukulu chonse you still daydreaming and confusing it with reality
155 yaba Sata doesn’t even have more than 15 houses you i. d yot. The avondale J close house, the omelo mumba road house …don’t throw stones at the elite you lowlife. If I tell you about Sa ta’s assets I will just end up shaming you . You are a confused id yot who lives in a matrix of lies you need a blue chloroquin pill to get you out of your confused state. KK , the van blerks or even ben mwila don’t have 70 houses. Chimu kul u chon se you still daydreaming and confusing it with reality. You can’t even spell university
YA BUTI THIS WORLD HAS A SHARE OF ITS MUuNYELOZ .. SO WHAT IF VAN. BLERKS DONT HAVE 70 HOUSES?? EVERY MAN INVESTS IN DIFFERENT VENTURES.. DONT BE SLOW.. I DIDNT EXPECT SUCH SHALLOW THINKING FROM YOU.. WHO IS VAN. BLERK TO ME..? THAT WHITE EXCUSE OF A PIig!? THATS WHY I AM SAYING YOU DONT KNOW ALOT YOU CHeeMBWI.. UNI.P. GOVt WE WERE CHEWING, CHILUBAa OVER CHEWED(THATS WHERE WE WE OVER DID IT EVEN) MWANAWASAa WE CHEWED BUT SLOW SLOW.. RB AHHHH EVEN BETTER…
I think some bloggers on this site are not only childish but also lack a sense of responsibility in them. Why talk about personal and petty issues here? We all want to constructively share ideas. Why do we need to know what you own, what qualifications, etc. I thought we are all reasonably intelligent in our ways and want to enage others as a way of shring ideas. Please mind what you post and feel for the many bloggers who would not be interested in wasting their time reading some of these very unpalatable postings. Please bear in mind the wider readship on this fora. Stay well and God bless those that worship him.
NUMBA 160 THIS DOES NOT CONCERN YOU.. IF U WANT U SHUD CLOSE YOUR EYES WHENEVER YOU SEE Beninnzwe beans AND WALAI NTHWENU..SO YOU DONT HAVE TO READ OUR POSTINGS.. KAGONENI CHABE MWALEMA NAMA PROBLEMS YANU..
chi numbala 159 do you in that inda infested gulu mutu of yours think such ridiculous lies from an illi like you can ever be taken seriously. U should have been aborted because you disgrace zambians, i doubt you are even zambian you sound like a kasai or nigerian. Just admit you are a lowlife you behaviou today has shown it, it’s not your fault that you were breast fed by goats in Mulobezi
Mwandi Guys am sorry I needed to occupy myself by arguing myself. Life in england is hard cleaning matako can make you have a split personality. Am going to bed now sorry for the trouble caused am just trying to make money to send to Itezhi tezhi where i grew up on goat breast milk
Mwa ndi Guys am sorry I needed to occupy myself by arguing myself. Life in england is hard cleaning glutus maximus of old people can make you have a split personality. Am going to bed now sorry for the trouble caused am just trying to make money to send to Itezhi tezhi where i grew up on goat milk
When mandela became the first black president of Southe Africa he did the same thing for the sake of unity he had three vice presidents.
Its the vision that is important. The postion are there for the political party and not as ministers.
Tmukokola ukulufyania. You have started messing up. We are looking for a cabinate that will ensure minimum expenditure and you’re already exhibiting nonesense HH.
Phew… cease fire at last. That was to much to take. Why don’t we limit ourselves than go full throttle at each other like there is no tomoro. Pls use restrain bane.
all those against this move are simply uneducated.this move means the goverment will have good control of every part of the country,it will make it easier to run the country and for progress to speed up.am wondering how some people can be so ignorant this is a good move forward for us zambians
I the Son of Zambia says, HH can never be trusted, he is just like other crooks, if we subject him to investigation will find him wanting….what has he done for the people of Zambia. No thieves this time…2011……
#162 walai inthwenu mumputi,you really have vulgar language,mwalatampa ukucita expose ignorance yenu nomba with your little knowledge of scietific terms.One can tell the type of upbringing you had from your postings,very very bad upbringing.
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that i.diot who used my name on here, your hoooole behavior can only be explained by your mamaz behavior while u were still in the womb!
im not numba 162.. it was that son of a piig BENINZWE using my name.. he doesnt have a hobbie… i dont know may b rubbing his diIck to get pleasure does not satisfy him now..
MAESTRO IS AN UNEDUCATED F.OOL.. IT SADDENS ME THAT DURING THIS ERA WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE HIM WHO CANNOT EXPRESS THEMSELVES CONCISELY IN WRITING.. HE SUFFERS FROM A RARE DISEASE WHERE BY THE SENSE OF THE ASSS GOES TO THE BRAIN AND THAT OF THE BRAIN TO THE ASSS.. SO I UNDERSTAND HIM….
Walai, can yu pls tone down abit. And bettre still keep your small fight among yourselves. This site is meant to stimulate debate not the sensees that trigger verbal diarrhoea. We all must be past this stage where you at and into the ‘future’. Pls take heed we are not amused by your rantings ok.
MUN TUZA.. AM TIRED OF SLEEPY PEOPLE LIKE YOU.. PLIZ CAN WE GO TO NEW STORIES AND ARGUE SENSIBLY FIRST BEFORE YOU TALK TO ME.. I NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE LEARNED BEFORE I CANT TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.. THAT FIGHT IS HISTORY MY FREND.. U ARE STILL LIVING IN BLACK AND WHITE WELCOME TO COLOUR MUNE
waiting 2 see your progress as a powerful pact!!!!!!!!!!!
what for before they are in Governement they have a large NEC,Once elected every member will be a minister
I AINT ARGUING WITH ANYONE WITH A THINKING CAPACITY OF A WOOD BLOCK TODAY..PLIZ FIRST ARGUE AGAINST MY POSITIVE SUBSTANCE BEFORE YOU ADDRESS ME.. I ONLY ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH LEARNED PEOPLE SORRY
lets see what the King Cobra will say guys… chill
i once belonged to round table at hillcrest .i was the treasurer and we had the president and three vice president .the senior chapter-had a similar arrangement .like lions ,round table is a charity organisations.the point is these positions should be to provide a service to the people and to be looked at as corporate position that give titles based on the accorades or value the company places on a person .politics are a service to the people ,the more people are involved the better the services .our country today is a mess because few have made decisions where many should have been consulted .iam pf but i agree with hh in this setup .after all later if u see these vps ,you might as well call them committe members .and for the name calling ,please stop .democracy is based on “our thinking
make everyone veepeee. then we can see the confusion
WILL B STOP WASTING THAT INTERNET WHICH SO MANY PEOPLE DONT HAVE AND OFFER ARGUMENTS OF SUBSTANCE NOT THOSE COMBONIC STATEMENTS..HOW WILL THEY HELP US?
IWE FUMBI WAS HILCREST PAYING U FROM TAX PAYERS MONEY? WORK FIRST AND TELL ME HOW IT FEELS TO PAY FOR SUCH IRRELEVANT POSTS
Why have 4 Vice Presidents this is duplication of duties. Economy is supposed to be for Finance Ministry, Gender there is already like MMD set up. HH & RK please review this type of structure. In case you form GRZ after 2011 general elections your cabinet will be expensive to maintain. Stop day dreaming in order to accommodate your cadres. We thought the problem was with the MMD it appears ploiticians have the same thinking. Let us stop this kind of thing before its too late.
4 VeePs? Gentelemen.
We will wait and see.
I also appoint myself as Vice President without portfoilo.
192, 193, 194 IF YOU DONT HAVE SUBSTANCE TO OFFER TO THE ISSUE AT HAND PLIZ DONT SAY NAWT!
HH just try to call them something else. VP is too much. I guess those must be your major challengers. Are you trying to appease them with a VP status? DRC had VPs closer to that number to run the nation’s affairs. It was an appeasement act. Guess what? IT DIDN’T WORK.
What happened when I was away? It seems we have some “giant” on this blog. Amazing!!!!
You will be delivered in Jesus’ Name. Anyways….HH heed myy advice
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#1-200 – You are all fulls, with Maestro hitting the number 1 charts!!! I cant believe this! you all petty little rats!!
118 AKAPONDO just clarify on your “visiting researcher in Germany.spending more time quarrelling on the blog than in the actual field.you tend to wonder what some people research on.because people like the prof who are true reserchers even switch of their mobile phones when they are on research.” and my “Some people have to read something very simple over and over (dull), but naturally intelligent ones never panic.
I have noticed that dull people always tend to think that everyone else is dull like them. The most interesting thing is that dull and naturally intelligent people are all useful to society, because what is at stake is the overall work output. With hard work, dull people can even perform better than naturally intelligent people.
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#187, fumbi: When did government become a volunteer service???? This is not high school stuff, my brother!!!!!!!!!!!!
118 AKAPONDO, continuing with With hard work, dull people can even perform better than naturally intelligent people. I thus, ask you to consult Clive Chirwa (PhD,UK) on what I have written for his opinion also.
If he is fair enough, he will 100% agree with me that all human beings can perform wonders regardless of how dull (how long it takes them to assimilate concepts) they are. All we need to do is appreciate God for how He has made us and what he has given us. We need to be content and utilise our abilities to our utmost best.
As for the insulting people, you will never move me an inch for the Lord God is with me.
Be blest, you all.
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Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
maestro go and milk cows
4 awe. vp for cows will be nex
My dearest husband, go on, show them what you are made of, keep on pouring the facts. never mind the dalo heads.Am with you all the way! Never mind those shallow minded bloggers who always escape through insults!!
i appoint myself vp for zimbabwean nurses coming to work in zed. female nurses that is .
talking to yourself isn’t a very good sign .
Now the Corporate Board Room has become a political party! A UPND govt. will run the country like a company. No elections but appointments and share holding. The richer you are the higher you go. It will not be a democracy but a ‘Wealthocracy.’ Or else is it how many cattle or wives you have? All appointments will be made by the Management committee. Sata has confused the kindergarten boy!
Uummhh this is a dangerous move… It gives an idea how big the government gona be!!!
Zambians are we so dull to think this is a bad idea? All suscessful organisations have VP for HR, VP for finance , VP for corporate strategy and so on. The idea is to prevent the president being spread too thinly. It is a excellent system of power decentralisation so that other leaders are created from the team. And this is the problem we inheruited form FJT LPM and soon RB. not creating enogh lez\adership abilities within your own party. And by the way my understanding of this is that this is only at party level and not central government as most of you seem to suggest.
105 Kalos2020 Following your “Just like on VJ having attended Stanford University and being a Lord’s scholar“, I have placed a CV for VJ Mwaanga in the:
The PF/UPND pact pose no threat to MMD, Kunda
thread.
Prove your claims either on this thread or there to disprove my updated records and clarification on VJ’s CV.
Have a blessed day.
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#190 walai ntwenu mputi waunfwiko bwino .hillcrest was not paying me. my perception of the “move” to have 4 vp is that ,it reduces the powers of the president to make decisions without proper analysis .increase more participation in decision making .and as for the money -taxpayers money to use ur word ,well money should not always be the reason to stop the best from happening .you seem to have no faith in people and so u say we would rather save money.by the way i work .and i hate how the tax payers money has enriched a few.#203 yamba yamba politics /government has no owners .so i see similarities to “volunteer services .the people are the owners .lions or round table is not “high school “stuff.mwanawasa was patron of lions- ndola .botwana has 1.5million PEOPLE with 150 MP.Look at…
Uhm….4 veeps at party stucture is fine the worry is fine the worry should be whether this will translate into the Republican Structure……if they ever rule that is…why not allow the pact between PF and UpND forage and then let them float GARRY NKOMBO for presido…….
This issue of HH always saying “the people have asked me, the people have asked me..,” will not help him show any leadership. Even when people ask you to do something you must have a personal conviction.
Over the UPND/PF pact he says the people have said called on us. But what is your conviction, Mr HH? The same Sata you have always condemned has now become Diamond, how? The same leadership principles of Sata you condemned have now become sweet? HH must have very porous and volatile principles making it hard for me to deem him a good leader. He is just like Sata, changing colors on a daily basis; may that is why they can now flow together.
Yaba! a la Pa forum apa paliba ifipuba! I couldnt help laughing out loud at most of your postings! Maestro, Kalos et al you have made my day! I’ve even become nostalgic, remembering those good old days pa at varsity pa Zed.
Keep it up guys! Good entertainment…………..
Well well well the cat has been let out of the bag!! There is UPND for you guys!!! Viva MMD Abashi plunderers!!!
I think to be very objective,there are too many positions being created…pliz cut down on unnecessary expenditures.the pact is a good move!!
#43, gay………Hahahaha. If it were MMD, HH would have a field day on 4 vice presidents. Don’t start the shallow thinking now….2011 is too near.
#171 Trigo – Mandela probably needed 3 veeps coz he was out of touch with reality, being in jail and all. SA is more like a war zone.
Iam dissapointed in the UPND decision. being an ardent follower of the party I must say Iam dissapointed big time. What happens when you make govt. All these people will want positions in boma plc. Usual african pilitics of apeasement.
217 Shi Jeke greetings and thanks on your “Maestro, Kalos et al you have made my day! I’ve even become nostalgic, remembering those good old days pa at varsity pa Zed“. However, it is well known that Kalos2020 was at Evelyn Hone College and not any varsity in Zambia.
Anyhow, take care and keep well.
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These guys are fast loosing focus. I wish it wasnt the same people standing at every election. We need more democracy in these parties.
UPND are just comfusing themselves with big words:vice president in charge of gender;deputy national interprovincial secretary chaiperson for chairpersons blah blah blah……..just a load of bullsh*t !
Forming a political party without alternative policies to the rulling party makes you have a vp in charge of propaganda and what not!
Us in MMD can’t wait for the chance to KILL TWO BIRDS with one stone.
Great ideas, go go forwared! pipo are generally uncomfortable with new ideas. They are used to the past, but we are for the future…….. We live in the future. These are great ideas, viva upnd, viva HH
now this is really running out of ideas
Hopefully, we will see good fruit from this. Names and titles are nothing, performance and results are king.
Wish you well.
Interesting! Even before we put the other category of crooks we can already smell a rat. 4 veeps, next will be 6 ministers per ministry! Well, precedence has already been set. we had two ministers at one time for one ministry. Do you ever wonder why we are so black?
Most of you characters, especially shushushus, are just worried about the UPND campaign in all parts of Zambia following this strategic expansion.
To those who were worried about honourable PF self-appointed leader Sata MC (Grade 2/6, unknown)’s comment on the UPND’s 4 vice presidents, the brother has welcomed this move. I will thus release the data below as expressed in the Zambia Daily Mail.
Thus, let us move on together in oneness as One Zambia, one Nation.
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Deut 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; [but] ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment [is] God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring [it] unto me, and I will hear it
I will thus release the data below as expressed in the Zambia Daily Mail:
“On Tuesday, Mr Sata said in an interview that the four UPND vice-presidents have occupied voluntary positions as they will not be paid any money. Mr Sata said the UPND increased the number of vice-presidents in order to have vast experience and cover various parts of the country.”
This is what intelligent people would argue out instead of rumbling.
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Deut 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; [but] ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment [is] God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring [it] unto me, and I will hear it
232 continued.:
““In political parties, when you have few leaders, it is difficult to cover the whole country to explain the way Government is performing,” he [Sata MC (Grade 2/6), unknown] said.” Hence, the POST’s “On President Banda’s statement that UPND president Hakainde Hichilema would be swallowed by the ‘snake’, Sata said Hichilema was very much assured and that he should not be misguided by Presidents Banda’s ill attempts against the PF/UPND pact.” will keep honourable Sata focussed in the PACT settlement.
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Deut 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; [but] ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment [is] God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring…
232 continued.:
According to Daily Mail, some PF rebel MP, I believe, commented ““The UPND has endorsed Hakainde Hichilema as their sole candidate and now they have four vice-presidents. Are they saying that Mr Sata will be a vice-president also?” he [Mr Bahati MP Besa Chimbaka] said.” This is not a problem at all and it would be great for Mr PF self-appointed leader MC Sata (Grade 2/6) to be finally appointed by someone else or be elected at the upcming UPND convention as one of the UPND vice presidents.
Stay blessed.
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Deut 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; [but] ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment [is] God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring [it] unto…
THE PACT IS DEAD UP and UNDER IS HOLDING MEETINGS PF IS?
who came up with that idea any?
i guees am mad,what i meant was, who came up that that idea anyway?
135!!! Your writing does not sound to be educated the way you are saying. infact, you are just one of these people from africa come to UK for a visit not education. stop telling people that you can educate their mothers and fathers. Where on earth, an educated person vomit such un professional behaviour. You are very *****. Talk to your fellow kaponyas such kind of languages.
From the POST, president HH defended the UPND’s position with:
On chief government spokesperson Lieutenant General Ronnie Shikapwasha’s statement that he had no moral right to call for the reduction of Cabinet when his party has just increased the number of vice-presidents to four, Hichilema said Lt Gen Shikapwasha must understand the difference between an election strategy and a strategy of running government.
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The POST’s:
“In their party, the party is run the way government runs but for us that is different from running a country. Running a country is based on economic and social programmes while running a party is based on mass country mobilisation. Shikapwasha always has difficulties in understanding the word ‘strategy’.”
He reminded Lt Gen Shikapwasha that the ruling party was abusing public resources for their political activities whilst the opposition was not.
attributed to president HH is what many characters with shallow understanding and thinking failed to appreciate in this topic. However, some may have done such deliberately because they are dead scared about the UPND’ expansion programme since they can match.
Enjoy all.
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