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Post newspaper editor Chansa Kabwela at the Lusaka central police
Post newspaper editor Chansa Kabwela at the Lusaka central police
The Government has said that the recent questioning of The Post news editor for

alleged possession of obscene material contrary to the laws of Zambia should not be politicised.

Chief Government spokesperson Ronnie Shikapwasha said it was sad that some political parties were using the recent questioning and recording of warn and caution statement from the newspaper’s editor to gain political mileage.

“The questioning of The Post news editor Chansa Kabwela last week should not be politicised and the police should be left to do the their work based on their evidence,” Lieutenant-General Shikapwasha said.

Gen Shikapwasha, who is Information and Broadcasting Services Minister, said branding the police action as political was a cheap way of viewing the matter.

Last week, police in Lusaka recorded a warn and caution statement from Ms Kabwela for allegedly being in possession of obscene material contrary to the laws of Zambia.

The statement from Ms Kabwela was recorded after interrogating her for close to three hours in connection with pictures of a woman in childbirth.

The police action followed Ms Kabwela’s sending of the pictures to Vice-President George Kunda and copied to the minister of Health, Secretary to the Cabinet, Non-Governmental Organisation Coordinating Council, Women for Change and the Roman Catholic Church Archbishop of Lusaka.

Ms Kabwela said she had sent the pictures of the woman in the hope that they would move the Government to take quick action and end the strike by health workers.

Patriotic Front president, Michael Sata recently accused the police of being used by the Government and the MMD over the statement recorded from Ms Kabwela.
[Times of Zambia]

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113 COMMENTS

  3. Hey…………………Shika whatever……concetrate on national issues and live that lady alone.Freedom of speach should be up held in all ways,had it been somethung to do with your MMD,she wouldn´t have been to some court houses.Tired and sik about all the mess you building up since

  4. On that as I said earlier,she was wrong.As a journalist she has the responsiblity to uphold ethics and being a woman and a MOTHER SHE CAN NOT GET EXCITED wit hthose horrible and insulting pics.Our Nurse were offtrack and its good they lost june’s wages which is natural cos there is no way they can be paid for services they did no render

  6. Ignorance is no defence , she committed an offence ,but one wonders if it is luck of professionalism or she deliberately undermined the authorities. Whatever the case ,she is entitled to a fair trial .

    Appearance yena ni bwino bwino..teti kabipe

    It is better to be uneducated than being uncivilised

  7. I agree with ppl above if there is a law that says you should not destribute such pictures then let the police deal with it. If i came accross pictures of certain individuals having sex and print and send them out to inform them of what is going on am sure the cops would say its pornography.
    On the other hand what do the individuals in the picture say coz i feel if they come out in defence of the editor to say it was sent only for information purposes then she might get awy with it. BUT can anyone tell me how graphical this picture is??? coz there is a lot of pictures of women giving birth these days even on TV documentaries and all

  8. Chansa has not committed any offence. She did not take those picture herself and it is the responsibility of any sensible citizens to pass on any information that highlights the problems are going through. That woman gave birth in public while the government was asleep on the wheel. No matter how terrible the pictures are the president and his friends should have the courage to face realities on the ground. They are not paid well to sit around eat free food and get fat!!

  9. Chansa has not committed any offence. The biggest criminal is President Banda. For not doing anything to end the strike that caused women to start giving birth in public and caused a lot of deaths..these leader are tragidy. Those supporting the police action are you suggesting that its okay for women to give birth in public as long as no pictures are taken?

  10. What is wrong with MMD and RB kanshi. They don’t want to see the cause of any action. Where the pictures of a woman giving birth is concerned, RB simply does not want to admit it that it’s his fault. Had they attended to the strikes early enough, that photo could not have been taken. This is what they should know.

  12. There’s no case to answer here. I thought she had already apologized for any offenses caused? Who would want to hurt such a cute, fragile, tender lady by sending her to jail? Only a monster from the abyss…

  14. I dont understand these people. These are pictures our children see in biology classes! Whats so ponographic about them? Persecution or prosecution?

  18. When one is found in possession with PN and taken to court the judges get to watch the same PN over and over again for them to assess whether its acutally PN. THEY WATCH UP TO THE END!!!! WHY? IN THE NAME OF DECISION MAKING! Those pics of a woman in labour are not attractive to turn anyone on and they were sent to decision makers for action, like the judges!!!!!

  19. HEY SHIKAPWASHA WHY U CONTRADICTING WIT YOUR PRESDO ON THE ISSUE! IT WAS POLITICISED THE MOMENT RB ORDERD ZAMBIA POLICE TO ARREST POST EDITOR..chimpuno!

  20. Bloggers educate me . ia not very conversant with these terms. what is a warn and caution statement in a laymans language. Ba moze mwashibukeni yama

  21. General in that case WHY DONT YOUR QUESTION THOSE ANTI AIDS CAMPAINERS WHO ARE DISHING OUT PAMPHLETS WHITH PICTURES OF PENISES AND VAGINAS WHICH HAVE BEEN “EATEN” BY VD?

  25. how do these twats tune dont politicize the whole thing wen there the ones who politicised it to start with? effin’ coppers now are scared to make any move in case it pisses off pumpkin nose! under mateo u wud have been assured objectivity and that was why pumpkin nose ensured he was one of the first pipo reassigned when he came into power. mateo did not tolerate B.S.

  26. Leaders exposed, poor baby died while RB went for knee op ku RSA. Shame on our learders. This in no pornography, its reality. So please leave the lady alone.

  33. Imiti, iyo khani ya warn and caution , i ithink the lawyers on the blogg can answer mwe. Ati shani lawyers. Anyone?

  34. What was the point of RB getting so upset hwen Mas Chansa Kabwela was strongly informing the powers be of seriousness of the effects of the srike by nurses. That was a wake up for our leaders to do something. In this country when you stand up and tell the truth you get charged by cops. RB got it wrong by being emotional and ordered his cops to move very fast and arrest the alleged source of picture in question. We are yet to see how professionaly the cops are going to conduct themelves on this subject. For one to conduct oneself in a professional manner one has to say boss this whole thing is a non starter coz everyone needs their jobs so they fear to give a fair opnion.But knowing how our friends in ZP behave they will excute their masters’ voice even though they know its not a good…

  38. I have sent them just wait they will show sometimes its takes a while before you see mail in the inbox

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    Terrence.

  48. Whats obscene kanshi?If the photo had been taken in a maternity ward, surely yes that would have been obscene.But here the intention was to inform on what the effects of the strike were. They are even calling it porn!

  50. #46 Matworld
    Thats happened to me before try pressing f8 when you just turn it own if there is an operating system you can select from there. If it doesnt come try F1 same process if there is a virus then it will say how to remove it.
    Otherwise use you recovery disc if you have one if there is anything left on the pc after recovery just go to windows.old.

  53. Usually when the hard disc crushes, it should be removed and turned into a slave by changing the jumper settings. depending on how severe the problem is its possible to retrive data using the method i have outlined above.

  57. #54..Tikabenji.. I am here.. ..missed you too chana… watch the curios case of benjamin button when u miss me, i put it on when i miss hearing my name..lol..kidding…..You are the distributor of those pics te…oh man…ine umubili yawenda!

  58. THE COMMENTS ABOVE SHOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ROBBED OF A SENSE OF BALANCE BY A TABLOID. KABWELA KNEW THAT THERE WAS AN INDUSTRIAL DISPUTE AND THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO A DISPUTE, WHY DID SHE SEND THE PICTURES TO THE ARCHBISHOP OF LUSAKA, NGOCC AND THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT SENDING THE PICTURES TO NURSES AND THEIR LEADERS. THE PICTURES WERE SIMPLY PART OF THE POST CRUSADE AGAINST RUPIAH. EVERY ONE KNOWS THIS. IT WAS A BAD MOTIVE. THERE IS ALSO NO DOUBT THAT THE PICTURES WERE OBSCENE. AND IT IS AN OFFENCE TO PRODUCE, POSSESS OR DISSEMINATE OBSCENE MATERIAL. YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE JUSTICE BY APOLOGISING AND KABWELA’S APOLOGY SHOULD BE TAKEN AS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT. IT IS UP TO THE JUDGES TO PASS SENTENCE. I FEEL SORRY FOR HER BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET USED.

  59. #58
    You have raised a very interesting point
    Why where the pictures not sent to the Nurses, Doctors etc since they where all involved in the despute to help reach an agreement

  60. I think LT did raise the concern of people not adhereing to their policy. I mean read from 40 onwards, looks like someone’s facebook wall. Some of us are not serious and use this platform to socialise. Like LT said 90% of the comments contravene their policies on commenting and i’m not suprised with that. You dont get any good debates going on. LT filter every single comment because even though you reporting may not be as great, some comments really push away those that are willing to put a debatable argument forward. Please do us a favour we the 10% understand why you set up the website. People’s views matter and you are provind that platform.

  61. Miss Daisy nice to know that you are around and well..I am not a distributor i also got it from one of my pals..by the way have you seen the pics?

  62. Personally i’d back the photographer 110%, people should know what their leaders are doing, you cant let someone give birth on the streets, how do you feel as president to let something like that happen on your watch?You need to knock some sense into these leaders push the boundaries, we are so comfortable in our little space of poverty, corruption, morality without logic or reasoning and accepting that that’s the way it is, thats our attitude. We enjoy sitting back voting and not being heard after the votes, because we know how things work and thats the way it is, wake up for christs sake!!Look at the last press conference, is that a leader?it was as good as reading blank sheets of paper.

  64. The reason the pics where sent to the people #58 is refering to is because they are pivotal in sorting out the problems that zambians face. These people are leaders and a leaders job is to intervene in a crisis. Over a month had passed and the effects of the strike where getting worse. Its was therefore important to make these leaders of the horrors that poor people were passing through as they drunk coffee in their comfortable offices. and one thing i dont understand in zambia is why a person has to be used for him or her to comment on issues that affect the country?

  66. The General should also arrest those Anti Aids group who are issuing pamphlets depicting male and female genitals “eaten” by various types of VD. There should be discrimination other wise its MMD that’s is politicising the issue

  68. I just got the pictures thanx to whoever sent Ba Moze etc
    We are not in a country where humans rights are abused to an extent of having peoples hands cut off. This was really sad but such pictures should not be cyculated especilly by the media. This is a case of trying to help but in the wrong way.
    On the other hand this can be used as an eduction point for both government and Nurse, Doctors etc.
    It has left a bad taste in my mouth its nothing close to porn but humiliating for women. You have to realise that such things to travel far through fellow bloggers i have seen it. Do you realise the truma for the child these things dont go away just like tht

  71. For the life of me i am angry such pictures where making rounds if they where between the concerned media, the doctors, the health workers, and the government no problem. But to be destributed in the manner that they where is totally unacceptable.
    Nga Tamwanchituminako mwe

  72. # 70 Uchipo naseka sana. ati ngatabacimituminako ama pictures, Iam sure yali bad ayo amapictures. You view them with one eye closed bane kukosa

  74. Thank you so much guys.

    Fellow Zambians thank you so much for the time you spared give me information on how to rectify the problem my old laptop is experiencing.Iam really sorry for taking you away from the topic on the site.Unfortunately it like my laptop is tired of being used I have tried all you have said but all in vain,iam sure its one way of telling me that we are no longer friends anymore,i just have to reconcile with the desktop at home which is full of viruses.Pipo thank you so much God bless you.Once again sorry for wasting your time.

    Maestro.

    Iam not succeding,iam just worried of my work,I guess I will just do what you have suggested.

    Thank you so much.

    Yours Fellow Zambian

    Terrence.

  76. FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT THE REMOVAL OF THE MMD GOVERNMENT IS A WORTHWILE OR EVEN NECESSARY OBJECTIVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE OBJECTIVE CAN NOT ALWAYS JUSTIFY THE MEANS. I SAY KAELA WAS USED BECAUSE IT IS NOT KAELA WHO HAS ANYTHING AGAINST RB. IT IS FRED MMEMBE AND HE HAS INVOLVED ALL HIS EMPLOYEES AND THE INSTITUTION OF THE POST IN THAT WAR. THE OBSCENE PICTURE OF THAT LADY GIVING BIRTH IS NOW CIRCULATING ALL OVER THE WORLD. IS THAT HOW FAR THE MORBID PEOPLE JUSTIFYING THE ACTION, WANT TO GO TO FIGHT RB. IT IS EASY TO REMOVE A PRESIDENT IN ZAMBIA. JUST CAMPAIGN. YOU DON’T HAVE TO CIRCULATE OBSCENE PICTURES AND TO HUMILIATE A LADY ALL OVER THE WEB. LET US GROW A SENSE OF DECENCY, MODERATION AND BALANCE.

  79. Ba Nkole the biggest threat to RBs hold on power is not the Post-M’membe or even the opposition. Its is failure to lead period. How can a president of a country lock hiself in the house as his people give birth in the streets? How can a leader of the country encourage violence against his own people? How can a president of a country reappoint a criminal like Mabenga back into Government? If there is someone who is morbid its RB. If he does not enjoy people dying needlessly he should have done something to end the strikes a long time ago and the poor woman’s giving birth i public will have been avoided.

  80. ##79, TIKAMBENJI, I HAVE READ YOUR POST AND DECIDED NOT TO HONOUR IT WITH ANY ARGUMENT. I WISH YOU LUCK WITH YOUR EXTREMISM.

  81. Ba Nkole muleitilako amenshi kubufi bwenu! I am not an extremist I was just stating facts that are on record the curious legacy of people who accuse others of extremism is that they are the real extremists.

  82. but bambi bale mpapisha. Instead baloleshe pamwana balelolesha pachinyo. Lolesheni pamwana please mukwateko noluse

  83. Tikambenji, uzalema. Fileke fye. Ucipo, ati nalufyanya? Nshakabwekeshepo nafuti. Nangu upapatile shani.

  89. #76 the means may not always justify the objective like you said but the scenario being posed to us is one of morality logic and reason.I personally think that the post may have a legitimate case in pursuing the truth if free speech is to flourish, however their should be limits. what is the justification of a picture of a woman giving birth on OUR streets?is that of no concern to any of us?It can can be easily disputed in a country like zambia that it didnt happened because of lack of eveidence such as the pictures therefore pictures speaks a thousand word excuse the cliche, and a nation like zambia that has a young democracy and trying to play fair in a democratic society should realised the sacrifice of some freedoms to gain others is inevitable. Morals logic and reason will clash!

  91. You know, today.. Fashion Police really hurt me, he insulted me for absolutely no reason.. Maybe i have offended him so bad that the first thing he thinks of everyday is what bad thing can he say about me..But for what its worth..i feel terribly bad coz i am not a person that wants to hurt or fight with anybody…Perhaps its not a bad idea that i never visit the LT blog again, whats the point? i thought the reason we blog is to tap each others brain and make social friends, its not suppose to mean much, but thats what we call social media. I would like to say sorry to anybody i may have offended on this blog and i would like to say thank you for the friends i have made… I shall read the news and read your comments once in a while, but i shall never blog again, Cheers…Nkuka

  92. There are too many morbid,queer and peculiar people on this blog. That’s why munafeluka biology because you were busy wanking instead of studying the reproductive health topics. How do you find a woman giving birth in public erotic? That is very morbid. You should be ashamed of yourselves. And some of you are just yapping without the full facts. Especially that chap who was shouting (wama capital letters). A little research and you would not have embarrassed yourself.

  93. Miss Daisy i read your post with a heavy and sad heart, my dear in life there are people who specailize in insulting others. However you should know that people who hate you will never win until you hate them back. Personally i find your contributions sober intelligent and wise. Why should you give up all the friends who love and enjoy your presence on this blog because of on badly raised person. I demand that you refuse to me intimidated by anybody remember bullying is the worst form of cowardice.

  94. #91-Miss Daisy, I totally agree with Tikambenji – Dont let anyone intimidate u on this blog site.We are basically meeting on this site to have a feel of being home and communicating and chatting with friends.Am new on the blog and the people i kind of enjoyed reading comments are- I can say u Miss Daisy,Matworld and Ba Moze and i have asked many times where Ba Moze had dissapeared to because he really made me laugh pali case ya Sipanje Airways and it was at that point that i joined .I would rather u stay as u have a lot of friends on this site from what i have seen so far.

  95. # Miss Daisy, I can feel with you. Just ignore such bloggers. They are as short sited as Teta and Mulogoti. They can not see the difference between a Party, Government and the Electorate; for them its one and the same thing. By the papers have the wright to choose and campaign for a presidebtial candidate of their choice. What MMD is doing as regards to media independence leaves much to be desired. What is wrong in leting the world know that without govt hosipitals marternal deaths will be on the rise in Zambia. The picture simply meant that Zambians cannot afford fee paying hospitals and that their is no health insurance policy. Otherwise other Clinisc could have rushed to pick the said woman who was in labour pains. So politicising the issue is justifiable for me. Dont blame the post

  96. #58, 76 I totally agree with you. This overzealous, uncultured girl was used. As a lady she should have had the empathy of the woman in the pictures. For those of you who are talking about TV deliveries and the like, the focus is on the baby in these cases – not on the birth canal. These pictures are now on the net, like someone has pointed out already – has anyone of you imagined a situation where one day these pictures inadvertently find themselves in the hands of her child – or some psycho using these pictures to torture her siblings? The long term impact of these pictures is deadly – people. This Kabwela chap needs to be punished to send a clear message – an apology is admission of guilt as someone has already mentioned.

  98. Tikambenji, am fine and you? Just sad about Daisy. We need to encourage her to stay. I will send her an email and i will also skype her. We are not going to let fools intimidate other people. Chanibaba maningi.

  99. I am fine thanks naine nimfulwa sana ndetutuma nokututuma kubukali. You should forward her email address to my mail box I also talk to her.

  100. Tikambenji, i will do so. Its important to note that in any society you will find all sorts of characters. That is why sieving is important. You get rid of the crap and remain with the good stuff. Let me send her email now, infact.

  103. So people have private communication here after blogging thats nice though we are all friends i dont think sharing other peoples email without there permision is a good idea sorry tikambeji.

  104. Uchipo, good morning. You are right about the email thing. But Daisy is a down to earth lady. I, for one would not give her email to someone like fashion fimo fimo. Am pretty sure shes cool with it, especially that i have not done it on LT itself.

  105. Uchipo Ulishani ewe mambala!! Ba Moze Uchipo has a point there confirm with her before forwarding it to me.

  106. Thats ok Ba Moze am a private person if you ask me for details regarding someone whom you had the opportunity yourself to do so, i would rather look stupid than give it you.
    Otherwise whats happening in Zed am thinking of coming back in a few months maybe visit or for good.

  108. Uchipo I like people who use their brains wisely like yourself even if the advice they give is painful for me to swallow!!

  109. I am sure you know that my plans with Miss Dasiy’s Email address are noble. They are intended to insulate her from the horrors of bullying and intimidation..

  110. Ba Daisy, I have not really followed your complaint. But you hanging up is just anfair to yourself and us. Please gather up courage and rescind your decision! We need everyone! On the pictures, can someone give me an adress where I can find them. My email adress has all my names to give it out here, sorry. I want to see them, please!

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