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VICE- President George Kunda has said part of the 10-month extension of the National Constitutional Conference (NCC)’s sitting period approved by President Rupiah Banda in April has already been covered.

Mr Kunda said this in reaction to an NCC delegate who wanted to know why NCC chairperson Chifumu Banda had said the extension was for 10 months while the president said it was for four months.

He said President Banda was merely interpreting the statutory instrument that was issued for the extension.

The vice-president said the NCC chairperson had explained that the NCC had already covered part of the period and the president was just interpreting the statutory instrument because there were other issues that came into play.

The NCC chairperson said that when Parliament started sitting from September 17, time for the NCC would not be assumed to be sitting.

He said time only ticked for the NCC when it was sitting adding that the same statutory instrument was only published in August.

When some members asked about the remaining days, Mr Banda said the NCC secretariat would handle the issue and explain to the members what the position was.

And most NCC delegates agreed that the number of Members of Parliament (MPs) should be increased to improve representation because some constituencies were too big.

The Willa Mung’omba draft Constitution under Article 159 proposed the number of elected MPs to be increased to 200 but Health Minister Kapembwa Simbao suggested that it should be increased to 300 so that each constituency could be divided into two.

Chongwe MP Sylvia Masebo said the increase to 200 seats was enough and Bweengwa MP Highvie Hamududu agreed saying some constituencies were too big resulting in MPs failing to cover all the areas.

Rev Fauston Sakala said the increment should not exceed 200.
Earlier the delegates adopted Article 158, which said Parliament should have power to summon and dissolve itself and that it should also have power to impeach the president.

But the vice president asked why the conference pick only the role of impeaching the president as opposed to other functions of Parliament.

He said that the article should be deleted to which Professor Patrick Mvunga agreed but after a heated debate the article was adopted.

And the article that sought Parliament to declare and ratify war was postponed so that it could be discussed together with the report from the executive committee.

[Times of Zambia]

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102 COMMENTS

  1. Boza!!! It’s you George Kunda who wanted a 10 month extension, but now that your boss has refused, you start lying bringing in statutory instruments. Just accept that your boss (RB) has said no to your rubbish requests.

  2. No dull moments pa Zambia. All this wallabaru can be avoided if Rupia, George and Chifumu confered and then allow just one of them to state the exact clear pozition on the matter. Issuing counter statements, or indeed clarificationz won’t go down well withe people.

  4. YALIKOSA LEAGUE PA ZED. EVERYDAY ITS KUNDA THIS , LUPIYA THAT , KUNDA WHEN, LUPIYA HOW. GIVE ME A BREAK AND LETS TALK ABOUT WHEN THIS SO CALLED NCC WILL BE READY? MONTH AND DAY PERIOD. I HOPE THAT SATA KNOWS THAT WITH THE NEW NCC NO ONE CAN BE PRESIDENT WITHOUT A DEGREE AS MINIMUM QUALIFICATION. SATA SHUD TRY TO DO CORRESPONDENT SCHOOL FOR A DEREE BEFORE 2011, OR COIN A HONORARY DEGREE FROM OPEN UNIVERSITY OR SOME TUNTEMBA UNIVERSITIES WORLDWIDE. NO DEGREE NO PRESIDENT BWANA SATA IN NEW NCC.

  5. 1. BUT KALISHINA AYI ATI MAIKALANGE TWAMULYA.
    IT REMINDS ME OF THE TIME I WAS A SMALL BOY WHEN GRANDMA WOULD TELL US UTUSHIMI AND ONE OF THOSE I REMEMBER WAS MAIKALANGE TWAMULYA. GO NAME THOUGH. ELONATONA WHERE IS YOUR PICTURE?

  9. What was the EXTENSION? 10 or 4 months. We are not talking about what has been covered here. IS it 10 or 4 months extension Kunda SC

  10. There we go again, kunda your boss Rb told the nation about 4 months extention, just shut your mouth and remain mute like chifumu.

  11. it looks like lawyers go to school to learn how to tell lies all the time! what the VEEPEE is trying to explain does not make sense. people should learn to humble themselves and accept blame when mistakes have been committed. stop insulting the zambian people please !!!

  12. Kunda is a stambling block to the development of this nation. He is the one that is even confusing the old man Rupia. The consolation factor however is that his days in the corridors of power are numbered and very soon the days will be 0. Tizakuona kwamene uzatamangila. I am sure even the stones will not give you a place to hide. UZALILA MAGAZI.

  14. The MPs do not represent people in the constituents. The constituencies and elections have just become ways of making sure that the national cake is shredded( yes shredded) regionally. Elections must be about choosing people who can advocate for regional development. The current number of MPs is more than enough. Change will only come if the cabinet is chosen from outside parliament.

  15. There goes Kunda again with his ambiguous statements. He’s not a straight person all he wants is reinterpretating the Law for his Boss. If I was RB, I would fire the guy straight away because it seems he has caused a lot of confusion with his interference in Law matters including the Chiluba Saga. It’s high time we have a reshaffle and try another VP. Probably a Woman this time because men seem not to care all they are interested in is Boza Boza and more Boza. Women a challenge to you, stand for 2011 and besides you’re the majority so vote for a Woman President this time, but not Ba Mrs Mwanawasa still she’s very unstable at the moment.

  16. Which College did George and Ronnie go to learn how to twist facts and stories. Let me also enroll there may be I can learn how to survive on lies.

  17. UBUFI WAKUNYA…….This leadership is a complete joke,its more like the president doesnt know what is going on, there’s total confusion,these two kanitundila and kunda are a disgrace to this nation….they tell lies everyday and they are not even ashamed,no remorse whatsoever!!!

  18. THE history of the Zambian legal profession in the 21st century would be incomplete without the mention of George Kunda, the new Legal Minister & Vice President of Zambia.

    History would indeed be incomplete because of his immense contribution to the profession through the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) and through practicing for the past 20 years.

  19. UBUFI WAKUNYA…….This leadership is a complete joke,its more like the president doesnt know what is going on, there’s total confusion,these two kanitundila and kunda are a disgrace to this nation….they tell lies everyday and they are not even ashamed,no remorse whatsoever!!!

  20. Mr Kunda is the man who firmly held to the position of LAZ chairman for four years from 1996 to 2000 when he stood down. Mr Kunda was born on February 26, 1956 in Luanshya of a miner Njanamo Kunda and Eginala Mwelwa who hailed from Serenje’s Musamani village where they now live.
    He is the first born in the family of nine. It was once a properly balanced family of five boys and five girls but unfortunately one of his brothers died.

  21. He is a serious and hard-working lawyer and this explains why he stands out as a one of the most sought-after and most successful legal brains in Zambia.
    His wife, Ireen, whom he met while they were both studying law at the University of Zambia (Unza) is his partner in his Ndola-based private practice, George Kunda and Company.
    Just how highly he rates on the integrity chart was demonstrated by the fact that one of the first persons to endorse his appointment to Legal Affairs Minister in the new Government of Levy Mwanawasa was no less that NCC leader Nevers Mumba.
    Dr Mumba, who ran his bid for the presidency on an integrity and morality ticket, said he was happy with Mr Kunda’s appointment to Legal Affairs Minister because he knew him to be a man of “high integrity.”

  22. Integrity for Mr Kunda is translated as honest, hard work. Others call him a perfectionist who leaves nothing to chance in his work.
    Witness him studying and preparing his documents as he gets ready for court.
    To those acquainted with him, it was not at all surprising that his name appeared on the new Cabinet line-up when Mr Mwanawasa unveiled his “New Deal” team on Monday.

    Mr Kunda said he accepted to go into politics as a service to Zambians as he felt obliged to contribute something to national development.

  23. “Some lawyers opt for the bench as judges, others serve in Government in various capacities. I am going in as a politician,” he said.
    He said he had no illusions about his appointment. Civil service jobs in Zambia are not the best paying occupations, not even for Cabinet ministers. But, he stressed, “money is not everything in life”.
    He said for the time being, his wife Ireen, would remain in Ndola to run the practise but there were plans to employ people to take charge of things so she could join him in Lusaka.
    Mr Kunda started school at Luanshya’s Fisansa Primary school before he moved to Mpatamatu Primary school where some of his senior school mates were Dr Joseph Temba, Dr Kalombo Mwanse and Mr Legus Nyembere.
    It was while at Mpatamatu secondary school that he came into…

  28. Mr Kunda started school at Luanshya’s Fisansa Primary school before he moved to Mpatamatu Primary school where some of his senior school mates were Dr Joseph Temba, Dr Kalombo Mwanse and Mr Legus Nyembere.
    It was while at Mpatamatu secondary school that he came into contact with some lawyers whom Mr Kunda says influenced him to become one after school.

  29. “I fell in love with the work the lawyers were doing and also admired their smartness and their big briefcases,” he said.
    But the decision was not an easy one because it meant that he had to work extra hard in form five to go to the university. He made it to Unza and on April 28, 1982, he was admitted to the bar.

  30. Armed with his law degree he went back to his roots in Luanshya where he started working as a solicitor and advocate of the High Court with the Luanshya Municipal Council before he left and later joined ND Patel and Company.
    Driven by the desire to gain more experience before launching out on his own, he decided to join another Ndola law firm, Cave Malik and Company.

  31. In 1987, he resigned and started his own law firm with his wife Ireen in 1990.
    The Kundas have six children, the first born being Howard, perhaps not surprisingly is also a lawyer who is married to another lawyer, Anne Grey Kunda.
    The second is Georgina, followed by Marion who has just finished her grade 12. The others are George Jnr, Godfrey and then Chiluba.

  32. It is not just in the courtrooms and at his desk where Mr Kunda shows his commitment to work. As a founder member of the Mpatamatu Secondary School Old Students Association, he worked tirelessly to get the association going, almost as hard as though it was part of his law firm.
    Current Mpatamatu Old Students Association chairman Phillimon Mbewe, said it was a great thing that Mr Kunda was appointed the Legal minister.

  33. He said no one was ever going to regret the appointment of Mr Kunda because of his output whenever it came to work.
    “Mr Kunda really deserves the position because he does not believe in anything apart from working hard,” Mr Mbewe said.
    The only people who will find Mr Kunda difficult to work with at the ministry are those who do not believe in hard work. The lazy ones should brace for a tough time because they won’t have it easy under Mr Kunda.

  34. Other people who know Mr Kunda very well say the man is very successful because he was highly principled and he did not believe in extravagant spending on unnecessary things.
    He gives generously when need arises but he is a person who would like to account for whatever he spends.
    Despite being very comfortable by Zambian standards, Mr Kunda is a man who does not spend his money carelessly and he is on a salary just like his wife and his workers.

  37. useless stories about Zambia, comeon George talk about developmental issues & not confusing the nation yo boss said that & you are saying this. comeon Just shut up. We are tired of your false stories

  39. It will be better for Parliament to summon and dissolve itself this will make parliament a strong institution ogf governance.
    Increasing elective seats from current 150 to 200 is most welcome. There are some big constituences such as Kasempa, Mwinilunga East, Solwezi Eastm, Masaiti etc just to mention a few should be sub divided. This will make it easy to campaign and cover by MPs once elected. Yes parliament should have wide powers which includes impeachment of a seating President. In this case they will kept on their toes and will not breach the constitution. Declaring War should not be left in the hands of the President alone. Where the Military want to pursue certain areas of interest, they may manipulate the seating President. Japanese case WW II . It should declared by Parliament

  40. #31 I Write what I like.

    I think this is too much information. Please exercise Data Protection when it comes to children’s names. You can mention Kunda’s identities but not his family. Beware, in the UK, you could be sued for that.

  42. Regardsing the article, MPs should also seek to have a say on the Loans our govt obtains. Parliament should ratify them so that we dont end up with national debt like the $6bn we saddled for years. Thank God for HIP but we must control our borrowing now. Parliament, please hear hear hear.

  44. Lies after lies, trying to justify lies they have to tell more lies. A few days ago someone was saying Teta was improving but instead died the following day. Why not telling people the truth. This Nyama soya govt is stinking hell of lies

  46. I write what I say, thanks 4 Kunda’s CV. It was good then. Would u know what has gone wrong now? I cant wait 4 this guy to die so Zambia can be free from his oppotunisim and trikery.

  48. Mushota says:
    September 11, 2009 at 9:51 amWhy do most zambian men have bad teeth.? The VP as well. Because of bwatches like you. When these men have kissed your rotten kongwe then there teath become bad

  49. I just asked about teeth, because its surely not hereditary is it? And also its insanity in this type of mordern society to have 6 children. How can you look after 6 children and give your children a better life than what you had?, Atleast thats should be the aim, in the 21st Century 3 kids is more than enough, but the going rate is 2 and thats it. Unless you earn £40 000 equivalent its so unfair on the children. Family planning and men should go for a vasectomy and i believe in zambia it should be preached more so (a form of castration of men so they spit blanks) I am having one child thats all. We must live like whites its the only way forward

  50. #3 iwe mushota ukutumpa.how about your father wat sort of teeth does he have. is it that of chikolokodilo or isabi. mind your talk or just zip it if you gat nothing to say. ule iwe

  51. #43 ZEDIA

    One way to know is to list down possible causes.

    Going by general trends in Zambia, politicians’ lifestyles and the picture of the late on LT (Teta near his Pagero) where he looked so thin, it is possible that he died of HIV/AIDs.

    Many people have died of HIV/AIDS, including many relatives of ours. So It’s no stigma thing any more.

    List #1: HIV/AIDS

  52. #3 Mushota

    Zambian men and women are some of the best looking Africans you’ll ever come across. Those who have travelled or come across other nationalities will agree with you. I am very proud of that.

  53. But apa George Kunda’s health has picked up. I think he is topping mankwala yampamvu. By the way what really killed Tetamashimba? Does any blogger know?

  54. I wonder what type of stench or is it odour or stink was coming out of that mouth. All terminally HIV positive chaps have the same problem

  55. #52 tehakakene akabulwele akanono akaisa, its now targeting our politicians , they will be dropping 1 by 1. V J is next so that he can go and rig the elections in hell in favour of M J

  56. 38 AS TO YOUR QUESTION: Marion is married to singer Wilson Lungu, popularly known as Wile. Georgina, currently studying in Canada.

  57. CHAPTER II.

    Mr Kunda has also experienced the dark side of his politicial career and he cites the serious accusations levelled against him and the Mwanawasa Government as the most trying time but he could not stand up to defend himself in the midst of all that even when he knew deep down that he was innocent.

  58. “I was bound by the leadership ethics as well as the oath of secrecy not to divulge information that may jeopardise State security. As a lawyer representing the State as my client, my hands were tied I had to protect its interests and that is what we were taught at the law school,” he said.

  59. It is not his first time to handle dual responsibilities in the Government.

    He previously held the position minister of Justice as well as that of Attorney-General, an action that triggered a lot of controversy in certain circles.

    Mr Kunda recalls that period as the most challenging time of his political career because the Government had to tackle the issue of the Constitutional Review Commission, the presidential petition, the removal of the immunity for former president Frederick Chiluba and the impeachment bid on Dr Mwanawasa.

  60. “I contributed greatly to ensure that there was good governance, peace and order and I rendered the necessary legal advice,” he said.

    Nevertheless, he served in the same portfolio diligently while serving in the National Assembly as a nominated member of Parliament until 2006.

    That year, Dr Mwanawasa decided that the two portfolios be separated, and that saw him appoint Mr Mumba Mulila as Attorney-General while Mr Kunda retained his position as minister of Justice.

  61. Manje, the important uestion should be when this 4months will conclude. Am seriously tired of this NCC and look forward to what kind of constitution these people have been making for us. The fact that is no longer is 10months is a relief. I mean, really

  62. Mr Kunda then stood for parliamentary elections in Muchinga constituency in Serenje and won with a landslide victory.

    Again, he was appointed to serve as minister of Justice, this time with added responsibility.

    ” I wanted to go back to identify myself with my roots where I come from. People were challenging me to stand because as a nominated member of Parliament (MP), I was not representing anybody.

  63. “My interest in politics was growing. So I wanted to have a constituency that I could represent although some people doubted if I would make it. But I won those elections with a landslide victory,” he said.

    Contrary to complaints that some MPs did not visit their constituencies regularly in order to acquaint themselves with the problems of the local people as well as monitor on-going developmental projects, Mr Kunda said he devotes time from his busy schedule to visit the constituency.

  64. Sometimes, using his personal resources to be with his people, alleviating poverty levels as he considers Muchinga his second home.

    His parents are resident there where he has built them a house.

    Mr Kunda says his constituency is vast, making it difficult for him to touch all corners within a short time whenever he is touring because of other pressing national duties.

  65. “I have done so much in my constituency. Schools have been constructed and several other projects. The MPs try their best to visit their constituencies. It’s only that national duties demand that they strike a compromise so that they also attend to other needs for them to maintain a balance,” Mr Kunda says.

    Mr Kunda feels that he will accomplish his mission, having reached the peak of his political career as vice-president.

  66. He will discharge his duties diligently without leaving a vacuum in the ministry of Justice as the role of dealing with policy issues will be adequately covered by new Deputy Minister, Todd Chilembo while he will be there to offer guidance.

    With Mr Malila and Solicitor-General Dominic Sichinga, alongside Permanent Secretary Getrude Inambwae in place, this makes the ministry of Justice fully established.

    He says, unlike in the past when the ministry of Justice lacked a deputy minister, now it has one.

  67. Mr Kunda does not doubt that Mr Chilembo, a senior lawyer, will be able to handle the bulk of the policy work.

    In his own words, President Banda said he was appointing Mr Kunda as one of the longest and most experienced Cabinet ministers in the MMD government and was confident that he would deliver to the best of his ability in his new appointment.

    Humbly accepting the appointment, Mr Kunda assured the nation that he was ready to discharge his functions to the fullest.

  68. A former soccer player during school days, having played as a member of Buseko Club in Luanshya with former Zambia coach Patrick Phiri, Ghost Mulenga, System Chilongo and Bernard Chanda, he is no longer active in sports.

  70. apparently TETA had nothing apart from mansa milling which he bouhgt with borrowed money which is to be paid back yet, no HOUSE and his funeral was held at his brothers house in solwezi which was also not complate and had no power ,no water,not painted inside no proper windows, but the government came in and painted the house put power and water 2 days before his chi body was taken to solwezi and also………………….?

  71. Being Catholic, he sometimes goes to church on Sundays.

    He plans to revert to his private law firm and offer consultancy services after retiring from active politics, of course with a rich curriculum vitae.

  74. I fell in love with this girl and admired her working ethics, smartness and intelligence.
    But the decision to marry her was not easy because it meant that I had to work extra hard in school and in relationship. I had just left form five to go to the university.

  77. #54 Gibbi Masela

    Actually this HIV/AIDS has been eating our politicians for a long time. A lot of ministers and MPs died during FTJ’s 10 years.

  78. By PETER ENAV, Associated Press Writer Peter Enav, Associated Press Writer – 7 mins ago
    TAIPEI, Taiwan – A Taiwan court imposed a life sentence on former President Chen Shui-bian after convicting him of corruption Friday, marking a watershed in the island’s turbulent political history.

  79. Looking closely at Kunda’s picture, one does not need to be sangoma to see that like Tetamashimba, the man is sick and in office just to campaign for a state funeral like his friend. These MMD chaps, ukutemwisha imisango ya Addis Ababa too much, now even the people’s parliament has been turned into a nailing and AIDS contracting house. Now I hear they want to double the number of MPs, just where is the money going to come from to pay for all these *****s who do nothing but explore the blossoms of other men’s wives? I think Tongas must export Runyoka to all provinces to teach these mbuziz a lessons!

  80. They are all liars, lies upon lies . What a govt of liars. They have all types of lies…breakfast lie, lunch lie, dinner lie, supper lie, sleeping lie, election lie, corruption lie, acquital lie, heee…too much to count. This is your gonvt that takes you for f.o.o.l.s. PLEASE 2011 COME QUICKLY SO WE SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR VILLAGES.

  84. #20-23 etc what ‘s the point ?Can someone please unravel this statement, especially the bit about the president “The vice-president said the NCC chairperson had explained that the NCC had already covered part of the period and the president was just interpreting the statutory instrument because there were other issues that came into play.” or is this a lame attempt at damage control by George?

  85. I thnk this person calling himself ‘I write want i want” is a Kamcheka…Shushushu”,Kunda,RB and Chiluba they cause a problem soon…with their questionable way of managing the the affairs and resources of our beloved country…

  87. Guys you are just scattered and a let down to the country. The head is doing this and the neck is doing that. Confusion on you, SHAMELESSLY MISDIRECTED LEADERS.

  91. NCC is just a piece of trash whether completed within a month or 10 so long as it does not address our numerous problems that centre on fair play in elections and still maintains crap about excessive powers vested in the president and his useless appointments.
    Kunda is an opportunist. Whenever his opens mouth, I assure you that little sense comes out He will hide in court and laywer jargons. Trash this, trash that!!! Ala!!

  92. wile is married to kundas daughter.lyashi lyamubwalwa zoona.kunda has never demostrated any leadership qualities in the cv someone has been floating .that is just a carreer cv for some unknown lawyer.kunda got the notice thru LAZ ,but like EIZ ,these organisations have done nothing tangible to write home about.i would rather someone write about ben kapita who revolutionased the farmers union.going to the only university then is nothing special now.it is like having a cellphone in 2000.you should see how the people looked

  93. 300 MPS! WOULD BE DISASTROUS! IT WOULD BE A MONEY DRAINER WHEN IT COMES TO MID -TERM PENSIONS, ALLOWANCES AND OTHER PLUNDEROUS VENTURES! those that they propose to divide into two, should be based on proper criteria eg; population. no rigging tactics.
    # 4 ; just a reminder that a degre is not synonymous with good leadership qualities, there are a lot of useless degree holders RB inclussive! KK with his humble education did far better than the more educacted office holders after him LPM INCLUDED.
    THIS IS MY VIEW, Iam not PF and I hold 2 degrees.

  94. I agree with #88. Our VP is a pepertual liar and very good at twisting facts. Can he tell us the effective and end dates of his boss (RB)’s extention of the NCC. This man is at it again just like in the Kashiwa bulaya case when he mislead the whole nation including his then boss Levy. Your time will come George. Please, George Kunda, read today’s post editorial comment.

  96. Zambia has had vice presidents ranging from Reuben Chitandika Kamanga to Simon Mwansa Kapwepe to Godfrey Kenneth Miyanda and Enoch Percy Kavindele, we have never had such foolishness and indecorum such is obtaining now under George Kunda. The best HERB can do is relieve this buffoon of his duties. The best guy among this lot is either Kabinga Pande or Felix Mutati. Abashala, including George wine, fitumbuwa.

  97. #86. ulikwisa? ndenwa forsters. ilyana lyachi nchita force ukupita mu kaPremier shop pakufuma ku sukulu so nachishitako ka eight pack. utwa musainsbury olo asda twalibako cheap. nganinkwata 15 pack wamona, LOL

  99. Mushota your comments on Zambian Men are born out of a frustration and self imposed importance that many Zambian men have witnessed from those girls who came first into UK. They will not respond when you greet them. When they see you doing well and going out with a girl from another country , they start calling you names. Zambian men are caring, polite and down to earth. Beauty has nothing but the heart.

  100. “The vice-president said the NCC chairperson had explained that the NCC had already covered part of the period and the president was just interpreting the statutory instrument because there were other issues that came into play”. This is the most confusing explanation I have ever come across. This man has swopped law books for political trickery!

  102. Most of the people tht comment on articles aren’t even in zambia.. So why you chatting so much garbage like you care.. Some have been away for more than a decade.. Its easier to just criticise, time in a day is limited, people work hard.., There is only one NCC chairman and he cannot be at parliament and NCC at the same time.., Zambia will never develope if we keep our minds closed.. open ur eyes n think before we speak.., Insults and ignorance will get us nowhere.. hmmm bitter zambians working minimum wage jobs in other countries…

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