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I don’t believe that President Lungu is a Zambian-Msoni

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Opposition APC President Nason Msoni
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Opposition All People’s Congress Party President Nason Msoni has charged that he does not believe that President Edgar Lungu is a Zambian.

And Mr Msoni says the people of Eastern Province are sick and tired of “aliens” using the Province as a springboard to attain their political ambitions.

In an interview, Mr Msoni observed that he has serious doubts over claims that President Lungu hails from Eastern Province because the Head of State allegedly does not have any footprint in the province.

Opposition APC President Nason Msoni
Opposition APC President Nason Msoni

“Remember we campaigned in 2015 and 2016 for him and all the time we campaigned in Eastern Province, we never went to his village. He never showed us where his village was,” Mr Msoni claimed.

He added, “we have our own doubts whether President Lungu comes from Eastern Province. He has no footprints there. All our investigations and inquiries clearly show that Mr Lungu does not hail from Eastern Province.”

The All People’s Congress Leader said the Eastern Province is now tired of non-Zambians claiming to hail from there for political expediency.

“The province has its grievances of non bonafidd Easterners claiming to be coming from Eastern Province and we are sick and tired as a province, the people of Eastern Province are sick and tired of aliens using the Province as a springboard to attain their political ambitions,” Mr Msoni said.

He has since blamed the security agencies in Zambia for having lapses that he said encourages foreigners to even run for the presidency.

“We think that all these things are happening because of the tragic failure of our security systems to vet and investigate all those individuals who are putting themselves up for the Office of the President.”

President Lungu as a student in a bell bottom trousers at University of Zambia
President Lungu as a student in a bell bottom trousers at University of Zambia
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165 COMMENTS

  1. Musoni ulebako nensoni. So what if he is not a Zambian ulichipuba? Is that what you can ask now?

    • I don’t think Msoni is Zambian too. Who is a Zambian by the way? A person born in Zambia? Was the President born in Zambia? Did he attaend school in Zambia? Did he work here all his life?
      Investiment does not make someone unzambian. Msoni, if ECL did not take you to his home, does it mean that he is not a zambian?

    • I agree with Msoni, the security wings have lapses. Guy Scott insisted that presidential candidates in the 2015/2016 elections should be investigated and noting happened. The easy thing is for Mr Lungu to come out and answer the questions. As Mulongoti said, we need the relatives to help answer these questions and not the likes of Amos Chanda who merely his workmates

    • ……
      Lungu is a crook who STOLE Form 3RESULTS to be admitted INTO SCHOOL.
      There are a lot of MATERO guys who even finish UNIVERSITY and GET NRCs with a STOLEN identity.
      GOOD will reveal ALL this nonsense.

    • Lungu must prove he Zambia and provide his heritage trace. His presidency remains questionable, career was questionable, and now his heritage. How many more things is he hidding that he cannot prove with evidence? Msoni is right, the people to blame are those in charge that did not check his background.

    • I believe Edgar Jonathan is Zambian, but his real names are NOT Edgar Lungu, and he is not from Eastern province, not even Malawi. The man speak Bemba better than any other language, I think he is Lamba.

    • If political leaders start wasting time on such topics its a clear sign that they will lose again and again. Either Lungu or Mutaware the man is Zambian. Opposition soul find a winning formular that wasting our time.

    • I READ THE EARLIER ARTICLE BY MIKE MLONGOTI. I BELIEVE THAT MLONGOTI IS HIDING SOMETHING AND HE SHOULD TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH.
      MLONGOTI HIMSELF HAILS FROM MZIMBA DISTRICT IN MALAWI AND THIS BORDERS WITH ZAMBIA.
      FOR MLONGOTI TO BE SO SURE THAT LUNGU COMES FROM MALAWI IT MEANS THEY WERE AT THE SAME PRIMARY SCHOOL SOMEWHERE IN MZIMBA – MALAWI.
      ALTERNATIVELY MLONGOTI IS REMEMBERING SOMEONE HE WAS WITH IN MZIMBA, BY THE NAME OF JONATHAN MUTAWARE, AND HE IS LIKENING THAT PERSON TO EDGAR LUNGU.

    • These guys. Do they smoke weed before an ineterview for them to compose such fiction. We surely have no political material in the country. Instead of tackling real issues affecting ordinary Zambians, they are busy day and night dreaming about Lungus Nationality while others are extremely busy chasing the wind over the impeachment issue. Ama politicians just like a national soccer team nabapwa.

    • Zambia is filled with grown and tired dinosaurs of Politicians with no issue based criticism, just myopic pursuits to enrich themselves more. Let PF work and criticize policies, not those stupid allegations out of spite with no credible evidence but hearsay and weird suspicions!

    • If one can get a school qualification forged what would stop one to get an Nrc. Time will tell otherwise thanks for this revelation.

    • Now it has become boring…LT please give us real news or else we wont be visiting your site..its like now every lunatic wants to be in news..attention seeking

    • I am enjoying this music called “Lungu is not a Zambian”, it’s currently one-sided, we want to hear from the other side.

      Where is Amos Chanda kaili?

      I am more surprised that he hasn’t come out to shed light on these allegations or does he want someone from UPND to say something, that is when he is going to react? Where is the government spokesperson, where are they and not coming out?

    • Kaunda was a Malawian. Chiluba a Zairean. Levy a Mozambiqueian. Sata a Tanzanian. RB, Zimbabwean cum Malawian. Guy Scott is a Scotsman. Lungu is a Malawian cum stateless. Phew!!! So why does the people driven constitution define all these as Zambians? Trouble is that all Zambians know they are foreigners.

      The Luba-Lunda migrations took place at the same time whites were coming here yet the vile racism calls the whites not Zambian or indegenous. Msoni a so called indigenous Zambian Ngoni’s people crossed the Zambezi in eclipse darkness running away from Shaka. The opposition and their supporters have lost their marbles and balls!! Nothing to offer.

    • whoever finds this issue to be interesting is an Id;ot. lets find something reasonable to do than ranting about who is Zambian and who is not. see shoprite is looking for supplier of farm products instead of you id;ots going to farm you are hear talking about something that doesn’t matter.

    • Funny enough, there are no other photos of Lazy Lungu apart from that one and the one in Army uniform…no photos of him as a child or with his parents

    • This whole story is fake news the President has an elder sister who currently is living in Jack compound and a younger brother who lives in Lusaka too who is normally in the company of f Christopher Banda the current MMD country treasurer found these people and this whole fake story will be put to shame and not to bed there is a clue

    • Kenny Ndongo its body is turning in the grave to hear the urtterance of his predecessor!

      This is Complete and Total Bull Sh!t

    • BAKOLWE BASEKANA IFIPATO – UMUBEMBA ASOSA MUTUTABO TWA CHIBEMBA, INSOSELO NE MILUMBE.
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      Indeteshafye uko kolwe mulongoti na msoni baleyanga nokuseka seka kwati niba chimbwi chilya balelolela bankalamo ati bekute impombo baipaile. Wonders shall never end. We have heard that nonsense over and over again. Lelo ni PETITION mailo ni IMPEACHMENT that other day ni NOT A ZAMBIAN, ija day inangu ni we don’t need an IDC DRIVEN DIALOGUE. Just a bunch of losers.

    • Leave LUNGU alone he is Zambian, just that the guy is very dull, it’s those kids who grew up on the Copperbelt and their Parents never took them to their village. But who is Lungu’s Father?? So that we trace his routes. Because children follow their father’s side. I don’t understand how Nsengas can claim that Lungu is from their side yet talking about Lungu’s mother to come from their villages.

    • Could be as biblical as it could be folk lore that many national leaders were alien. It’s God’s secret isn’t it?

    • Amano yabena icalo mu Zambia kulachingilila ebo tabaishiba bwino nokukana ebo bangakonkeleshya bwino bwino imishi bafuma! (Zambian mentality is that which favors protecting those whose origins are dubious at the expense of indigenes whose ancestral village roots can easily be traced!)

    • He who accuses must prove. The burden of proof lays with the acccuser not the accused. ECL doesn’t have to prove that he is zambian. It’s people like Msoni tthat must prove that ECL is a foreigner

  2. You are a liar and probably a spit goat Nason. Trying to seek attention is not a panacea to lie however you hate the president.

    • Msoni is not president. The fact is Lungu must prove both his parents are Zambians with evidence. Period. He should also prove how he won in 2016 so both cases are closed. What is difficult about showing proof if you are innocent?

    • @Mayanda,
      To you, suddenly both Msoni and MLONGOTI yesterday decided they wanted public attention…right? Pathetic thinking

  3. Rupia Banda was from Zimababwe the mamambal served…

    The only way to get rid of this incompetent presido is voting him ou out.

    • With RB at least he respected the constitution. The issue here is Lungu had ignored it which is unusual. All Zambians are to respect consitution and he should have handed power to the speaker. A lot questions surrond this man and need to be answered.

    • @George Reader I was born in Kitwe, my parents were born in two different villages and two different provinces and they met and lived all their lives in Kitwe so which village will I visit as my own, none.Will they even recognise me in any of the two. I don’t think so. But pa Kitwe am a star. But I am as Zambian as any would be. So the fact that Lungu did not visit a village in Chipata does no mean he is not Zambian.

  5. Jonathan Mutaware AKA Edgar Lungu has explanation to do and clear himself! And typical foolishness and lack of seriousness of Zambians….we don’t take keen interest to know the truth….let’s not be quick to say it’s just political. This matter is constitutional deserves every serious attention. Possible we have an illegal president not only by election votes but citizenship. Knowing truth won’t be in vain and we shud not be scared to know truth. Kudos to all that are in support to have Lungus citizenship investigated.

  6. When adults spend a lot of time talking about an issue which does not improve their children, then the whole family is doomed. These one man party chaps are saying very incoherent statements which makes one wonder whether their faculties are functioning properly. You where campaigning for him as who. VERY STUPID OLD MAN.

    • WHAT DO YOU MEAN IMPROVE THEIR CHILDREN. ARE YOU CERTAIN LUNGU IS GOING TO IMPROVE ZAMBIA WITH ALL THESE IN-COMPETENCIES WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED INTO? BRING BACK OUR SATA!!

  7. Lungu is a crook who STOLE Form 3RESULTS to be admitted INTO SCHOOL.

    There are a lot of MATERO guys who even finish UNIVERSITY and GET NRCs with a STOLEN identity.

    GOOD will reveal ALL this nonsense.

  8. We have a lot of foreigners at UNZA claiming to be Zambian, who however free up in Zambia but are of foringe parentage……

    MY only conandorum is how come lungus child hood before UNZA is a mystery ?
    No one seems to lungu as a child ….

    Again all this questioning is down to the wrong attitude of lungu to ignore public debate , like how he ignored and did not even attempt to deny allegations that he is a corrupt theif…

  9. Nason Msoni please don’t speak on behalf of us Easterners in what capacity are you bringing this rubbish talk which bears no logic to the issues the Zambians are expecting from someone inspiring the high office.The message I have for all you foolish so called politicians aspiring to take over from the PF government bring constructive ideas on how you want to change the lives of Zambians better than PF not talking about president Lungu.Give us your policies that will give us and then we will vote for you in 2021 .come 2021 you Nason will be either supporting HH or Kambwili will be supporting another party so why do you form political parties.its time the government clamped on these Katemba parties to bring sanity in the nation.

  10. Another spent force, Nason Msoni. Your arguements guys have flaws, uncordinated data. Go back to the drawing board and redo your script, otherwise these are sour grapes. ECL the nonentity sprang up a surprise to rise to stardom as president. The major drawback to development is hatred among politicians because all vie for one position and yet serving a country can be done in various ways and spheres.

  11. Lungu has been the President for how long? He has been in Government for How long? Today thats when you want to question is origin? This stupidity . Give us real matters, PF definitely is not a political party i can support but agreeing with this *****ic thinking of attacking every president on their originality is wicked. What has profited these guys. People like Mulongoti we all know, ninjala che, Msoni….mmmh not sure what demon has gotten into him aswel.

  12. All these failed politicians claiming ECL is not Zambian can they please produce the registration cards of their own parents? Mwenya Musenge (Congolese), Msoni (Mozambique/ Malawi), Mulongoti (Zimbabwe). Let them do so otherwise maintain silence and talk about more constructive and pressing issues affecting the nation. Even if Lungu’s parents were not Zambian whether he was born in Nysaland,NRhodesia or SRhodesia he was born in the Federation in 1958 and he was physically in Zambia in 1964 so that qualifies him to be Zambian.

  13. Simple and straight forward Question…is ECL Zambian or not Zambian, these are important issues too important to ignore. My parents were Zambians one from Lundazi dunda village(eastern province) the other one from mazabuka(southern province) but which village/chief is our beloved president from? most of us Zambians are cowards if one asks were our president comes from ati you are a hater. Msoni is speaking his mind we are all free to go to lusaka times and speak our mind. The question still is which village/chief from eastern province is our president coming from?

    • Talking of chiefs, surely only one chief should have information about one’s birth, how is it possible in Lungu’s case that four chiefs came forward to bear witness to his nationality. False witnesses. If Mlongoti’s story is to be believed then the chiefs were talking about the late Edgar Chagwa Lungu whose NRC was stolen by Jonathan Mutaware (the President). South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC) referred to our President as Jonathan even before Mlongoti told us so. There is something in the air. Again if Mlongoti’s story is to be believed there two Tasilas, as one blogger said, one is daughter of Edgar Lungu, the deceased, and the other Tasila is the daughter our president, Jonathan Mutaware

  15. According to Mulongoti that person in the picture is not ECL??? What madness has afflicted Mulongoti? Anyone can see that the young student wearing a ZNS beret (no doubt obtained from the one year compulsory National Service back then) is ECL.

    Let’s discuss other issues, the man is a Zambian.

    • 2020vision…..

      UNZA has many foreigners claiming to be Zambian but who have foringe parentage and might have spent some of their early child hood in Zambia……this is what mulongoti is implying that perhaps lungus parents are not Zambian and he probably was not even born in Zambia but went to UNZA and secondary school …..mulogoti says there is no trace of lungus primary education

    • Mulongoti knows what he is talking about, he is Tasila’s maternal uncle! The person in that photo is not ECL. The photo is in two shades if you look from top to bottom divided by the vertical line. Technology my friends can do miracles nowadays! Can ECL tell us his primary school? Can he introduce some close relatives not just the old woman in Petauke who was paid to act as an auntie? Can we see and hear from his brothers and sisters, cousins and uncles? Where are the classmates at Primary school, Secondary, UNZA, Military Service? Ask me about all these and you will be surprised to see a crowd!

    • A rat is a clever little animal which thinks better than most opposition politicians and their followers like yourself.

    • Bottom line.
      Lelo ni PETITION mailo ni IMPEACHMENT that other day ni NOT A ZAMBIAN, ija day inangu ni we don’t need an IDC DRIVEN DIALOGUE. Just a bunch of losers. What else shall we not hear.

  16. We ar tired of foolish political leaders lyk msoni who hs nothing to offer the nation but hallucination only jst to please agents of the devil..twapapata plz talk some sense which will bring life to the many Zambians looking for hope n not childish debating issues without salt.. Grow up msoni

  17. Can we be told of clear origins snd parentages of all Presidential candidates before elections to avoid voting one crook to another! Lungu, HH, Nawakwi, Kambwili etc.

    • Bottom line.
      Lelo ni PETITION mailo ni IMPEACHMENT that other day ni NOT A ZAMBIAN, ija day inangu ni we don’t need an IDC DRIVEN DIALOGUE. Just a bunch of losers. What else shall we not hear.

  21. This the last time I will comment on this topic. One does NOT have to have been born in a village to be a Zambian. This is sickening.

    • Atleast you should then have a tradable childhood and primary education badala…….even if you were born on a bus your childhood should be traceable

  22. Why are people attacking those who what to know lungus origins ? They have the right to know if the person masquerading as president is an imposter….such information should be readily available ,

    what is the fear ?

    As the old saying goes

    ” if an accused rapist refuses a DNA test, there is something to hide”

    • Waste of time just like the question is your mother spaka a woman? There someone goes, why are people attacking those who what to know if spaka’s mother is/was a she?
      Nonsense, isn’t it.

  23. Waste of space ,talking about citizenship.Let’s talk about tax burdens that have crippled the nation.Education system that has gone to the dogs.People who cannot afford three meals per day and they are merely surviving.Someone’s citizenship will not solve the problems that the nation is facing.Child mortality rate is very high.Illiteracy and ignorance is the order of the day in this nation.Let’s raise the barometer of debate above issues of citizenship.If he has failed to govern this nation,let us kick him out through the ballot box.People who are bringing issues of citizenship and impeachment are those who want a short cut to presidency.There is no short cut and easy way to the highest office in the land.Defeat him through national and salient points that have value.

    • MY DEAR IT STARTS FROM THERE. I DONT PERSONALLY HATE LUNGU BUT HIS ACTIONS ARE BEYOND SOMEONE TO BE IN THAT OFFICE. HE HAS NO HEART FOR THE PEOPLE. REMEMBER HE IS CALLED PRESIDENT BUT HAS FAILED TO UNITE ZAMBIA.

  24. Does it mean anyone elected president in Zambia automatically, becomes un Zambian? Alot of Zambians are too lazy to do anything to improve their families’s, lives including the very poor opposition political parties that spend lots of time debating irrelevant issues that doesn’t resonate with the voters. Where were all these people now questioning the president’s nationality when his name was put up on the ballot twice? Political failures like Mulongoti, Msoni and others are a danger to our country. Can someone define for me what it is to be Zambian? Stop wasting people’s time. Go and do some work for your families. Zambians will remain poor as they waste alot of precious time politicking day in -day out why? Just because you didn’t get what you expected from the president you have…

  25. @Spaka mudala, I’ve been following Mulongoti’s argument and it is a follows ‘the man who is in office is not the father of Tasila Lungu, the man in office was never a lawyer and stole the identity of Edgar C Lungu the real father of Tasila’. The student pictured at UNZA wearing the ZNS beret I believe is on record as being enrolled as Edgar Chagwa Lungu- the individual pictured is the same person we know as ECL- today servicing as President, not so? Yes. If the University can produce the records to show a Edgar Chagwa Lungu was enrolled there and they have pictures of the same eg at graduation then it dispells Mulongoti’s ridiculous argument. Not so?

    • Mulongoti is also asking how come there is no primary school traceable records of Mr lungu ???

      UNZA yes he did go there and mukuba sec school but before this it is a blank canvas badala that needs filling In….

    • May I advise bloggers here to read the sections on citizenship (PART IV: 12 – 18) and the qualifications for the presidency (PART VII: 97) in the current constitution carefully in order to make an informed judgment on ECL’s citizenship status? Most of the comments I am reading just reflect ignorance of the current constitution.

      ECL was born in Ndola, brought up in Kitwe, started primary education at Mutende in Kwacha Township, then attended Ishuko and Chimwemwe A in Chimwemwe Township, before proceeding to Mukuba Secondary School for his secondary education, and then finally UNZA for his university education I personally know a number of his former classmates and relatives and even met one of his former primary school headmasters. Since when did he become a foreigner?

    • FACTS

      those are the revelations the public need…..who ever you are , thank you for bringing this information forward…..that clears the air.

      That is all the public need. Tell lungu.

  26. You now turned against him bringing fake accusations. Can Mulongoti, Msoni and others tell us what it is to be Zambian apart from being born in Zambia and having a green national registration card? Shameless liars seeking attention. Go back to work, there is surely life after politics.

    • In how many places can you be born? Read again the strongest point in contention which is the place of birth, and then commitment

  28. This issue of parentage is a very, very dangerous area. Its advisable not to touch it because it can hit back at the ones who are throwing the stones…Why bring this up??? Come 2021 the opposition is still winning by way of the poor performance from the PF govt why should they just start shooting themselves in the foot. PF have scored many own goals- poor maize prices for farmers- yet mealie meal prices are high, roads in towns and residential areas are damaging our vehicles, high perks and SUVs for top civil servants while schools, hospitals are under funded etc etc…these are the areas these politicians should address but they are just egotistic, opportunistic quacks!

    • Opportunistic quacks as you who is pretending to be “fair” whilst forgetting endemic corruption, biased judiciary, infringement of Constitution, privatization of Zambian Police, colonization of Zambia by new empire, institutionalized kleptocracy……………

  29. I think we are descending. The levels are mediocrity on display are just so baffling it is not even funny. Let’s set aside the whole conspiracy theory for a moment and focus on addressing our challenges, as well as implement our plans and dreams. The Office of President will only do so much. Most of what we are blaming others for is something we can sort out by being pragmatic, objective and downright hard working. I am still counting: EVERY ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT THUS FAR HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING NON-ZAMBIAN. True or not this is a tired record now. Disgusting!

  30. Now I understand why there is a proposal to remove certain information for the NRC because other people dont have a tribe and village where they come from……

    • Like ECL… if he is from Eastern province, surely he must have a village where his relatives are like all genuine Zambians, or at least show us some relatives in Zambia or a place where his parents were buried etc.

  31. Is Mr lungu on planet mars ? Can he not just appear on ZNBC and clear the air ?

    What is so hard for lungu to clear the air ?

    This is how the corrupt theif label has stuck on him , he did not bother denying the accusations…..

    • Waste of productive time, aisha. This is no time for politics but development.

      Bottom line.
      Lelo ni PETITION mailo ni IMPEACHMENT that other day ni NOT A ZAMBIAN, ija day inangu ni we don’t need an IDC DRIVEN DIALOGUE. Just a bunch of losers. What else shall we not hear?

  33. Sewage ponds opposition politics.
    Sorry Mr Insoni, try your luck in 2021. Meantime encourage your colleagues in opposition to come to the table and dialogue to improve the electoral process in readiness for 2021 otherwise you will be crying with petitions again and another failure to instal your wives as First Lady. Please come to the table as Baroness Patricia Scotland has directed upndeez and their h.h. We know you will come with a stench from sewage ponds habitat, but for the sake of Zambia we dont mind we will cover our noses and use air conditioned rooms to meet you.

  34. @ 25 Chilufya. Don’t be hasty as ‘tree-bute’ of Lord of the rings would put it. ECL made that suggestion after visiting Rwanda, a country that has done something similar to what he was proposing. You can disagree with ECL on NRC issues but do not confuse the two items.

  35. It’s obvious these guys know that they will lose to Lungu in 2021, that’s they’re coming up with all this nonsense. Msoni at one time supported Lungu but after being left out he’s resorted to slanderous attacks on the president. By the way why didn’t this he goat say this before?

  36. The role of opposition in Zambia is slowly losing it’s meaning & focus.Discussing ELC’s nationality will not improve or bring food to the tables of our Citizens who are already living under very difficulty conditions.Ever since Msoni formed his party,i have never seen or heard any meaningful contribution to Zambia’s development.In short he is a jealous ,envious man who does not mean well for Zambia.After elections we need to be united & develop our Nation.

  37. @2020VISION
    You have hit the nail on the head. Opposition shooting itself on the foot. Parentage issues will soon hit some Presidential candidates where it hurts most. May be Mulongoti is a double agent!

  38. Zambia is filled with grown and tired dinosaurs of Politicians with no issue based criticism, just myopic pursuits to enrich themselves more. Let PF work and criticize policies, not those stupid allegations out of spite with no credible evidence but hearsay and weird suspicions!

  39. May I advise bloggers here to read the sections on citizenship (PART IV: 12 – 18) and the qualifications for the presidency (PART VII: 97) in the current constitution carefully in order to make an informed judgment on ECL’s citizenship status? Most of the comments I am reading just reflect ignorance of the current constitution.

    ECL was born in Ndola, brought up in Kitwe, started primary education at Mutende in Kwacha Township, then attended Ishuko and Chimwemwe A in Chimwemwe Township, before proceeding to Mukuba Secondary School for his secondary education, and then finally UNZA for his university education I personally know a number of his former classmates and relatives and even met one of his former primary school headmasters. Since when did he become a foreigner?

    • As far as I am concerned , that clears the air for me. I rest my case.

      Lungu and statehouse must be told that their silence in the public debates is causing mot harm to lungus reputation…

    • I would have believed you had you used your real names like Mlongoti is doing. If the case was as simple as you put it, nobody would be talking about it.

  40. Yangu ba kateka wesu…. l have heard about his career background being questionable,now its heritage. It seems these old timers are all foreigners, is it difficult to trace someone who had lived in Zambia, had friends all over. Unless one was a loner….. Are we a clever generation or its just social medial making it easy to trace an individual. To stop the flame burning itileniko amenshi ba Lungu. I dont know how you will do it. Next topic please

  41. Let me express my gesture at the status quo of President Edger Lungu allegedly labelled as an alien by some opposition leaders.Suffice to say these opposition leaders have their right to loose the cat out of the sack on president Lungus nationality,i find it a sheer waste of time for them to be a palaver instead of giving the currently Government checks and balances to compel them to work hard and meet the people’s aspirations of Zambia.The citizens of this country have huge challenges of unemployment,precarious economical situation, enigmatic taxes slapped on citizens,kamwala market stalls demolished and hence making people vulnerable in their own country.My question is what are you doing as the opposition leaders? Will the nationality of President Lungu help the Zambians have food on…

  42. Where is the PF media team? It is said that when a lie is told several times it is believed as “truth”. By keeping quiet and not bringing the evidence such as the NRC, they are just allowing innocent Zambians and the world to continue being misinformed. The sooner this issue is closed the better for the nation, PF and the President

  43. Msoni you were busy campaigning for that man. Did you take an interest to know him or you just had an interest of your Tammy? Don’t blame the security wings. You and Mulongoti campaigned for ECL tirelessly.
    The challenge we have in Zambia is that we are blind voters. We don’t even have time to scrutinise candidates. The best we can do in an elections is to dance dununa etc and vote. Next elections let us be serious and scrutinise all candidates and just dancing. For now it is too late the damage has already been caused by Msoni and Mulongiti who campaigned for the very man they are calling foreigner.

  46. You all senseless you were busy on his side,now tell us what has changed. Why you didn’t tell us then. You can’t just say things when it suites you. Go to hell. Cheap politicians

  47. Iwe chi Msoni ubupuba. We all know that ECL did his secondary school at Mukuba boys in Kitwe. He then went to UNZA as seen from the photo above. He may be tolerating corruption as the head of state and not attending to funerals, as alleged by another fool Mulongoti, but the evidence is here for everyone to see that this man is truly Zambian. WHAT DO YOU WANT ?

  48. I remember my first primary school Mudzabwera but I can’t remember my class mates names. I’m even forgetting those I went with to high school.

    • You can remember a few just like I do, I have a gut feeling you could be my age mate, or you be just a few notches above.

  49. A Mulongoti achimwene inutu ndinu aku Malawi. Muchokela Ku Mzimba ndipo mwasochela kumaona Edgar ati ndiwaku Malawi. Iyayi amwene uja muyamata munali naye pa Mzimba ndiwina. Alikufanana chabe ndi a Lungu.
    Ndipo mnwasochela amwene.

  51. Mlongoti and Msoni are behaving very irresponsibly and I’m so disappointed. If this kind of diabolic propaganda is not well checked it would lead to xenophobia with consequences too horrible to imagine. Mlongoti and Msoni, what do you think you’re doing? We expect better leadership from people who aspire for plot 1!

  52. Where was this muppet and his fellow clowns when Lungu was appointed to serve in government by late President Sata?

  53. Kaunda is not Zambian, Chiluba is not Zambian, Mwanawasa is not Zambian, RB is not Zambian ,Sata is not Zambian…….Then even Mson himself is not Zambian kanshi wee!!! Now tell us who is Zambian you foo1s

  54. Was Pilate a Jew for him to have presided over Israel? And who was Caesar? You people are better off organising your next meals than crying and gnashing your teeth about LUNGU or HH’s riches.The two are one coin with different projections.

    • You also Asiff, as if you never heard of colonization! When the British ruled you, you expected them to be Zambians?

  57. When people loose their heads what is left is the empty necks devoid of the gray matter. Those are our so called briefcase politicians who are more Zambian than others. Ask them what they have contributed to the development of our country? They only contribute to blocking our sewer systems. We want development stop this childish debate that only fortifies your waste of peoples time and ballot paper space.

  58. Why is it that only abena Chipata are supporting this ‘Malawan” masquerading as a Zambian? Anyway, just watch how they will change camp if all of a sudden its discovered that he is actually Katangese from Lubumbashi, bakuMawa will desert him in multitudes and those Tubulus from Mwansabombwe will all of a sudden claim him to be from Musangu village fimo fimo!

  59. Mr m’soni and Mr m’longoti , where were you when ECL was applying for Presidency.dont waste our time with your hate.we want progress in our country.from assessment , nobody in the opposition is suitable to be our next President.You are all full of HATE , INSULTS and MALICE.

  60. MSONI CAMPAIGNED SO IS MULONGOTI. PROBABLY NO JOB OFFERED HENCE THIS HATRED. OF COURSE YOU ATE SOMETHING TUTE AND IMBALALA DURING CAMPAIGN THAT WAS ENOUGH

  61. MSONI CAMPAIGNED FOR LUNGU SO IS MULONGOTI. PROBABLY NO JOB OFFERED HENCE THIS HATRED. OF COURSE YOU ATE SOMETHING, TUTE AND IMBALALA DURING CAMPAIGN THAT WAS ENOUGH

    • HH is not part of those saying ECL isn’t Zambian. Why does his name get mentioned on comments on this matter? Msoni, Mulongoti and Siwale are not Tongas. They all know that doubt is not proof and cannot be a basis to draw a definite conclusion. Reporters who talk to these people are letting readers down.

  66. This all total foolshness , how do you say such things as zambians.
    These people are sick .
    You are failing to prove anything for 2016 electons and now you just want to say anything.

    Look Leave president Lungu alone you fools.
    Where were you when he stood as president .
    The guy is a full zambia.

    You busy fighting for the postion of president , wait for your time and whoever is paying is cursed.
    Learn from Kenya , Zimbabawe even us Angolans .
    Mr President focus on your work , these fools will never make , there can only be one president and that s you Mr President Lungu .

    God is with you and will fight all your enemis .
    Iam Praying for you Mr President .

  68. Zambians must take this issue very very seriously. It is not prudent for a country to be taken advantage of for so long. Why are we Zambians so shameless? What makes us Zambians must also guide us into picking leaders who are Zambians. We cannot let foreigners come and mislead us. Who is next to be our President, Issa Gharedu?

  72. Considering that not even our first president was a true Zambian, how sloppy now to raise the citizenship issue against president Edgar Lungu? From what I hear, even the second president, Frederick Chiluba, was not a true Zambian. Who then is a true Zambian?

    • Are you Zambian yourself?
      Bottom line.
      Lelo ni PETITION mailo ni IMPEACHMENT that other day ni NOT A ZAMBIAN, ija day inangu ni we don’t need an IDC DRIVEN DIALOGUE. Just a bunch of losers. What else shall we not hear?

  74. Zambia will never have a president who is not a foreigner. Because all Zambians are foreigners. Trace their roots tribe by tribe.

    Zambians are Zambians by matrix starting from:-
    If you were found in Zambia by 1964 you are a Zambian
    If you were born in Zambia you are a Zambian
    If you schooled with so and so, you are a Zambian
    If you can speak Tonga, you are a Zambian

    Now, how can you question the nationality of another person in this era? Who says you are more Zambian than others?

  76. We are blaming HH because he it’s the one courting, feeding and paying these useful *****s. Mulongoti is a John isa ulye ubwali. He fees on dull and bitter people like HH, members etc. He has picked on a week target ECL knowing very well that it is uncommon for sitting president to sue someone for deformation. He can’t dare pick on people like HH, musenge and others with questionable background, because they will grab his small house in compersation

  77. Mulongoti was a cleaner at ZCBC in Ndola.
    While ECL was doing primary school, mulongoti aleikata impanya na fikapanga. When ECL was at Mukuba Secondary, Mulongoti aleimba imifolo ukubomba piece work getting paid tiki or two ngwee.
    Nomba baba lawyer elyo amatole yabo yaba 64 years old nomba bapena. Insala ibi bane. Lekeni Lungu awamye so that Mulongoti bombase ikate

  79. Ukulya bane,insala can make you lose ur principles.My own opinion that ECL may not be Zambian is the way he is treating Zambians. He does things that go beyond the scope of our past colonialists mentality.He has formulated an apartheid system for our beloved country with no scruples ,behaving like a king who can hire and fire at will.If u check the archives of our past five president u will come across one Virtue “Love for Zambia and Zambians” Lungu can’t b Zambian

  80. I have come to learn that Msoni is one of the politicians who joined politics for the sake of money. If indeed Msoni reveals that he campaigned in support ECL in Eastern Province, on what criteria did he base his political wisdom to ask the people of Eastern Prov. to vote for ECL as President of Zambia? Why then did he conceal this vital information to the Election Commission of Zambia and ultimately to the entire Zambian Judicial System. I am developing a painful belief that Msoni is a political CHEAT who hoped to achieve monetary gains from ECL’s Govt. Hence his reason for joining a treacherous for camp of Mulongoti, Kambwili, Musenge, Kalaba and HH in desperation.

  81. Sob,weep, mourn for Zambia.Peaceful mother who impregnated u to birth so many bootlickers? Corruption?When was that?I think it’s in 2015.My advice to all bootlickers is as J.Kapata put it to PF “If u don’t eat today,when will u eat” Yes eat and drink for 2moro…..but do not forget this :”A dictator trusts no1 but to consolidate his hold on power”Where is Mbwili who orchestrated the closure of the Post,why is Mutation no longer at Finances after he supported ECL?Your bootlickers comments in support of an open dictator sound shallow and rehearsed.PF cadres in all our security wings ,in the Executive,Judiciary and Legislature,in Churches,what does it teach u boolicker?This guy is dividing Zambia bt ur filled stomach is blinding u.Can u sense the Hitler method and colonialistic trends…

  83. Zambia politics tefintu. Why do you waste time on non issues. Mr musoni no one knows you party. But you spend so much time insulting. Start growing your party.

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