PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has been summoned to appear before the Bemba Royal Council to exculpate himself of derogatory remarks attributed to him in the media against Paramount Chief Chitimukulu.
The council that convened last Friday resolved that Mr Sata should appear before it on December 29.
The council has also summoned Chief Chimbuka.
The chief’s advisors, popularly known as Ba Shilubemba, observed with dismay the alleged continuous attacks on the Chitimukulu by the PF leader.
The chief’s spokesperson Bwalya Chiti confirmed that Mr Sata has been summoned by the council.
And referring to an article in a daily tabloid during their meeting, the Ba Shilubemba were concerned about utterances attributed to Chief Chimbuka towards the Chitimukulu.
They said the utterances were demeaning and damaging to the Bemba Royal Establishment.
Meanwhile, the Chitimukulu says he supports the decision of the council to summon Mr Sata to iron out perceived differences amicably.
[ZNBC]
The Bemba Royal establishment is now becoming a circus! Summon Sata, then what?
leave sata alone you dogs
That is a kangaroo court which should not waist other peoples’ time. The chief demeaned and damaged himself by shamelessly involving himself in politics. I am bemba but do not support chiefs making noise because of 30 pieces of silver.
Leave the incoming president alone you headless chickens.
This council of elders should actually be spending time counseling their Chitimukulu. castigate him for bringing the name of and the throne into disrepute.
But then it is a good strategy, summon Sata so that he can take a New Year gift/ sorry a corrupt gift of some Whisky and all, good thinking ba Shilubemba, fathers of the Bemba land.
The clown crapped in his own pants and thought Bemba’s would be there to follow him and clean up after him.. Too bad Chiti.. Your voice carries no weight no more.. too bad.. Resign or something
The chief has been embarrassed by the voters in kasama. he publicly declared his support for MMD and he realised that he was on the wrong other side. please leave sata out of this circus.
I just love the way SATA keeps everybody busy!!! What more shall we expect when he enters the S^ AT ^A HOUSE. 2011 will be very exciting hope I will stil be alive.
WHAT THIS NONSENSE ABOUT TALK ABOUT HIV/AIDS, BOREHOLES, FERTILISER, FEEDER ROADS, CLINICS, HOSPITALS NOT THE INCOMING PRESIDENT PLEASE!!!!
Chitimukulu is using this council to reconcile with Sata. He organised this meeting so he could meet Sata face to face and say sorry because he very well know that Sata is going to be next president(God help us!). However,I used to think he was a wise man .Little did I know that 30 pieces of silver as one of the bloggers has rightl y observed could turn him into a cheap cadre with no back bone whatsoever. Shame. Go PACT!
I think Bembas have to do something about the degradation of their culture before its too late. The spirits of our gallant anscestors ku shimwalule must be turning in agony in their graves to see Chitimukulu wallowing in the stinking pocket of aNgoni wannabe called Bwezani in the process demeaning the throne. If in such an insulting manner. If a
I think when Sata comes into power he should just banish all these old relics.
I am from loyal family myself but summoning SATA is waste of time leave him alone you bemba chiefs messed up yourselves because of love of money. Now you have been really embarrased, the chief gave support to MMD and lost to WHITE MAN GUY SCOTT, WHAT A SHAME. Differetiate between tradinational and politics sir ( chitimukulu)
May all those who are close to Mwinelubemba please advise him to stay out of politics.
I think this Chitimukulu is no longer in a position that would enable him execute his role as chief and representative of Bembaland and must be dethroned.. This is the correct course of action, in my view. This is the consequence of his actions. The BRE need to change the Agenda for their Kangaroo court ad throw Chiti in the middle to exculpate himself!
The only real paramount chiefs are ‘Monze’, Undi, Litunga and Mwata Kazembe. The others are riddled with scandles.
The people of Kasama rejected Chiti over elections of Mwamba, that is why they want to reconcile with Sata. People should not expect other things apart from a reconciliation talk. A chief defied by his people should get worried. Just look at Litunga, if he says MMD yes all people obey. If Mwata says PF yes, he even sjambocked MMD cadres for making noise. Ask Musosha! Monze says UPND yes, all the province obeys. Chiti says MMD yes, even his children vote for PF! What a shame?
Let the damn chief pay the price of being partisan. He should have known that politician can badly bruise him. In terms of integrity you cant even compared Chitimulkulu & the Litunga. Shame on the Bemba Loyal Establishment (BLE).
May the Bembas bow to the Ngoni’s. Follow the example of your Paramount Chief…lick bwezani’s boots..imwe muyembekeza chani! Brother shall rise against brother…it has started for the bembas, even amogst the lozi’s it is happening.
Abemba tibaseke lelo ayea ayeaye aye ayeaye kodi alibe malango! My cousins do not insult chieftaiship even if the man in that seat is not likable or has gone wrong. So SATA should own up and apoligise or else we shall send Mpezeni, Undi, M’mbelwa, M’swati and others eastern chiefs to share your land and the people. You never insult back to your father no matter how wrong he may be and this is our ubuntu that differentiates us from the west but even in the west they do not do that. And those that are saying it is a waste of time i feel sorry for you and your children coz they will be a pipo without roots and rich values. No wonder amashilu yafulile ne fya muselu! I am a Ngoni Bull
Chitimukulu should instead be sat down and told what a respectable chief is expected of in in terms of utterances, can’t you see the self respect the Litunga commands? Also the Barotse Royal Establishment is an excellent example of tradition in Zambia. Sit Chitimukulu panshi, not Sata.
Let the Chief not embarass himself further.that is N.O.N.S.E.N.S.E!
Zambian chiefs have forgotten their responsibilities in society, they have all become politicians and think they are small God’s to be worshiped, they are infact the one’s who have 50% contributed to the suffering of the majority zambians because they intimidate and direct their village men and women who to vote for in times of elections. They are all corrupt and they are not morally upright. Sata being a tyrant as he is, definately he wont be intimidated by this tribal council who have no life but depend on corrupt MMD Government.
So chief Chimbuka is a chief! Are these not the same guys who said Chimbuka is not a chief? It is high time we changed our chief. The current one is not worthy the salt.
I think this is a welcome gesture people. Let them have a decent talk like grown-ups and sort out their issues. I think its better and much more mature than them politicking and exchanging insults in the public media like cheap, childish politicians!
Can this Bwalya chiti shut up pliz. We are know that is MMD and lied to the presido that things wud work to their favour. Iam no MMD But i think the people saying banda is surrrounded by enemies is true. Chiti one example
Chiefs are the custodians of our culture and should not actively participate in politics as this puts them in the firing line as we have seen. Obviously it is in their interests to support the govt of the day but there is a clear line between politics and representing their subjects. The Chief seemed to have crossed that line.
This is the more reason why the sitting NCC should adopt a clause of chiefs not participating in poltics,if they want to let them abdicate their thrones and non-partisan people take over.This is deameaning to the throne when a chief publicly quarrels with his subjects and appears to lose!!!
# 20 Called PAFISENGE, Are sure of what you have just said about the bemba people having a lot of lUnatics? I will not ever support your assesion about that. Because i come from Laupula province and I can agree with you if you said there used to be a lot of blind people in the sixties and seventies due to small pox but not mad people. My first time i went to Chipata in 1995 I was shocked to see so many mad people at the sation than those I saw in my province, and I agreed with people who call ganja as FWAKA YA CHI NGONI. TRY TO BE FARE!
Will Pact endure the pending implosion?
IT takes a lot of hard swallowing of pride for political parties which have capitulated to the same adversary more than once in national elections, to publicly concede that the rival is far too strong to face off as single opposition entities.
Such is the bitter pill which the two opposition political parties in the land, the Patriotic Front (PF) and the United Party for National Development (UPND) have had to stomach the past few months.
The realisation that the MMD still packs a punch on the political landscape, despite recent losses in by-elections, and remains a worthy contender, punch for punch, on any given day, has yet again given credence to the maxim: “Dance with the Devil”.
Opposition leaders Michael Sata and Hakainde Hichilema are two strong headed, strong-willed, politicians who, not so long ago, would not be seen together, let alone find themselves in a “marriage of convenience”.
There are numerous examples to show that these two leaders will soon be digging their talons into each other and to illustrate how volatile the friendship here are some newspaper headlines.
The POST:27-08-2006 “Don’t vote for violent leaders, violence belongs to PF and not UPND” – HH.
The POST: 26-09-2008 “I can’t step down for H.H”- SATA; The POST: 26-09-2008 “Sata doesn’t have what it takes to run a country” – HH.
Yet, the yearning to dispose of their common enemy (The MMD) is too overwhelming that even with this deep loathing, a draft Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was mooted with convergence on any national economic, political or developmental policy.
Did any one watch the match between Lusaka Dynamos and Kabwe worriers last year?
Iwe Mataka acknowledge sources fo information…this is not your work!
In conceding the might of the MMD, in very round about and chocolate coated language, penned in the preamble of the draft MoU of the pact, the two parties literally agree that they could never upstage the ruling party as was demonstrated for the third time in the 2008 election.
# 35 Chabu Kasansha,
Are another David Mataka other than the Name re posting? What is your point if not just confused?
Will Pact endure the pending implosion?
BY DAVIS MATAKA
The preamble of the draft reads in part: “Taking cognisance of various previous attempts at unity and taking into account the results of the October 2008 Presidential elections which demonstrated that 71 per cent of the total vote was in favour of the opposition block, we were unable to form government.
It became apparent that there was need for our various opposition parties to close ranks and come together to maximise collective leadership and collective effort to establish a formidable political front capable of winning the next elections and forming a government that will be able to develop a sustainable, economic and social regime which will meet the aspirations of the people”.
At face value, well-articulated piece of working document to show off, but one that is on the ground fraught with numerous challenges of actualisation.
The dynamics of bringing two political parties that are miles apart in ideology and geographical representation even in a unitary State as Zambia is a test.
The other weakness is the apparent lack of national agenda apart from the single objective of removing the MMD from power.
There has been so much armchair criticism of the policies of the ruling party and yet no solutions offered.
And while the leadership of the pact may revel in its perceived strengths, the cracks in the rank and file of the two parties, brought to the fore by the provisions of the MoU, especially on who becomes president, are already discharging sizzling hot seismic movements of a volcano about to erupt.
In the UPND, Namwala Member of Parliament Robby Chizhyuka was slapped with an expulsion from the party for coming out in the open and clearly stating his misgivings about the pact describing it a waste of time.
Does anyone know what Mataka is talking about?
Major Chizhyuka contends that HH was the unwilling party president who was disinterested in the Republican presidency claiming that he was too busy campaigning for Mr Sata.
“I have said before that the UPND has a president who does not want to be a president, these facts are very clear but the UPND structures do not want such things. You cannot prepare a football team so that it can all the time come out second best,
“Even at this stage in the pact, it was myopic to think that Mr Sata would accept to be vice-president considering the popularity the PF enjoys,” Mr Chizhyuka says.
In contrast, party spokesperson Charles Kakoma insists that the pact has no interest yet in campaigning for a particular presidential candidate saying the immediate pre-occupation was to wrestle power from the MMD.
“The sole objective of this united front is to remove the MMD from power, this pact is not about HH or Mr Sata, but about taking over the government from the MMD,” Mr Kakoma says
And according to some UPND sources seeking anonymity, there are many other MPs and ordinary members of the UPND from the Southern Province, chiefs included, who feel uneasy about the Pact but would for now rather remain mute.
And iwe #34 Assistant Bootlicker, wachokela kuti? How can you ask that question here, and concerning last year? Kwena pa blog abantu nabapenako panono!
They contend that for some MPs, it is a matter of security of tenure, because as it were, the law makers would rather get their gratuities from the House before they can even think of beginning to criticise this political pact, just in case they got the same dose of treatment meted on Major Chizhyuka.
Though still quiet but plotting in the fringes, there are a number of old guard UPND power- brokers who are watching the pace at which matters are going, stealthily marking HH’s moves.
Forum for Leadership Search executive director, Edwin Lifwekelo, contends that as many as 10 MPs from the opposition UPND are ready to cross over to another named party because of growing discontent with the way their party has conducted itself.
Mr Lifwekelo says this negative sentiment which is a mirror reflection of the feelings of the majority of the UPND at grassroots has caused some disquiet and it is only a matter of time that matters come to a head.
Worse still, Mr Lifwekelo adds that most of the membership is acutely cognisant of the fact that HH has already assumed the subservient position of vice-president buoying Mr Sata as leader of the Pact by implication and assumption. This, the PF membership is very comfortable with.
As for the case of the PF, the 22 or so MPs whose party expulsion cases are still in courts of law have also been unequivocal on their stand on the Pact insisting that the decision to enter into an alliance with another political party does not lay in the hands of the party president or a few individuals.
#29 Mulesela. It is possible that my cousins got on some buses to chipata and thought Fodya wa chingoni niwo kokakoka monga ukudya sweet and they ended up as lumpens so those are the vimasilu you saw in chipata. If you asked them their names you will be surprised to note that mostly there from bemba land. Anyway on a serious note I did not mean that lunatics are more in bemba land but what i meant is if we do not respect our cultures and rich values were even when a chief ( or any elder) is wrong you do not insult or react publicly but alas it is happening and so namashilu echo yafulile. what the mwinelubemba has done is the best and all that SATA can do is to apoligise. Blessed are the peace makers. Lastly kupusa abemba we shall get all the women from you!
But it rather should come through consensus through a more representative forum like a party convention.
The thinking coming from the rank and file of the second biggest party in the land is similar to that of the silent grassroots in the UPND. Would the general membership of the PF accept second best in the hierarchy of the pact?
In the draft MOU, the provisions for the selection of a president are catered for and in black and white spell out more than two options that can be applied.
The first is that by consensus, the presidents from the two parties represented would choose an independent chairperson preferably from the clergy, to oversee the process. This chairperson would be the returning officer if voting became necessary.
The presidents in that regard would have to choose from among themselves a single candidate by consensus. A time limit would be set for this exercise and should they fail to come up with a candidate, voting would be employed as an option.
In elections, all presidents’ party to the Pact would form the Electoral College. Each president would have two votes; they may cast one of their votes themselves, but only one.
The presidents may also cast both votes for one other candidate or for two different candidates.
In the other option, a wider electoral college would be convened with the composition as follows: Each participating party would have up to 50 the same number of delegates as the other competing parties.
These delegates would have to be drawn from each party’s top executive i.e. The central committee, national policy committee, national management committee or executive committee.
Each delegate is supposed to have two votes on the same ballot paper and both votes must be cast. Each delegate would have the option to vote for two different candidates, while the two votes cannot be cast for the same candidate.
An analysis of the first option shows that it still leaves some grey areas because in the event that the clergyman selected hailed from the Roman Catholic church from where Mr Sata draws considerable support, the outcome would obviously cause consternation in the HH camp.
Leaving this whole process of the selection of a president of such a Pact representing a diverse number of people with varied ideological orientation to a handful of power brokers makes any such procedure as volatile as quick sand.
There is created this apparent danger of the agreement bursting at the seams because of fundamental differences arising from pushing and shoving from the real power of the represented, who are in this case the general membership of the pact.
As democracy has been correctly prescribed as which is from the people, by the people and of the people, there is a danger of the Pact failing to genuinely hold as it has been created high above on cloud nine, and not down on earth were its pillars would be cast in concrete.
As it is, despite numerous assurances from the Pact leadership that the collaboration is solid, there remains a genuine concern whether it can weather the storm push comes to shove during national elections.
Does the draft MoU meet the ideals and aspirations of the membership it was created for, or is it just another piece of literary art created to buoy a few individual leaders to the heights of political stardom by contesting the Republican presidency?
Similarly the differences in the manner the two parties in the Pact, the PF and the UPND are distinctly divergent, poles apart.
For example, the PF which has now been in existence for the past 10 years and yet has never held any contested elections to choose any of its leaders or gone to the convention every five years.
This is contrary to the provisions of its constitution in Article 67 which clearly stipulates that: “The general conference shall be held in accordance of the provisions of Article 43 of the party constitution and instructions issued by the Central Committee regarding dates, place, time and procedure at the conference; the PF has never done so.
This stands in stark contrast to the ideals of the UPND which through its late pioneering leader, Anderson Mazoka ensured that the ideals of democracy were at least entrenched and took the party to a convention.
Your guess is as good as mine whether the UPND in its current form, and leader HH can live by the high standards of achievements scrolled by the late Mr Mazoka by listening to what his grassroots members are saying about party policy.
I also wonder if any of the ardent followers of the PF have taken time to study the party constitution because browsing through some of its provisions, alarm bells immediately begin to chime.
For instance Article 71 reads: “Decisions of the General Conference shall be valid and obligatory for the Party, Government and Public institutions.” Now wait a minute, does that statement not evoke nostalgic reminiscence of the one party commandist system of government.
This provision smacks of some socialist ideology which this nation has long abandoned because it is draconian and cannot work in this new dispensation.
In Article 03, under the Public Institutions proviso clearly states that: “The Party shall ensure that all public institutions, State owned enterprise, and popular mass and similar organisations are led by persons who are members of the party and who are uncompromisingly committed to the achievements of the party.”
Article 04 states that: “The party shall wage a relentless struggle against all domestic and international forces of reaction; it shall fight for the eradication of capitalism.”
Article 05 reads: “The party is the supreme organisation and the guiding political force in the land. Its aims and objectives as expressed in this constitution shall provide guidelines for all persons associated to it.
Sata should not report to the Council because he might be poisoned like it happened to Andy.
Somewhere in the constitution, there is also a specific provision which states that all publicly appointed servants i.e. Supreme Court judges, managing directors of public institutions and others in matters of disciplinary discourse will stand charged before a PF party panel.
This by the way also includes the army, police and other security oriented wings.
Where in this regard does it leave the tenets of democracy that over the last 19 years of multi- partism we have been developing as a nation?
It is hypocritical to say the least that the PF can stand tall and propound how not Zambian democracy is developing when in its own constitution, it is clearly enshrined that socialism and not democracy was the ideological path chosen.
And unless there is a clean break from this seemingly devious and cunning ploy to return the whole nation to the almost forgotten dark ages of wholesome nationalisation of industry and centralised mode of governance, the marked advances so far made will be obliterated, consigned into oblivion.
This article is comprehensively a preserve of smart analytical heads above challenged cadres.
MATAKA, What’s all this monotonous stuff you are talking about? The issue here is about the summoning of Sata by the Bemba chiefs.
Mataka……..amataki. The purpose of every oppoisition is to stand by to be the govt in waiting. If they cant aspire, what then. The PF/UPND pact is there to remove MMD from govt. And they will do it in 2011.
What the MMD (the party, you support, Mataka) should do is to show what developmental projects they have done. Not the shikapwasha and mulongoti rantings. Above all, MMD should also observe good governance practices by going to the convetion. RB will definately go thru, but not mulongoti and shikapwasha.
How does the blabbing am seeing above, have anything to do with Sata being summoned by the Bemba Council? Did i miss something?
Lupiya has done alot of development in the POCKETS of cief Chitimukulu
This Mataka person is just another political useless bastard, please read the article before you blog coz you seem to have lost it. Atishani bakamba ba MOZE!!
People please educate me, what happens if Sata does not appear at the royal court. What is the punishment.
Ba Kelchi!! Ine ndi best mukaamba. Ndedabwa fye abena Mataka pa blog.
Kodi Mwinelubemba angaitane mubiza ku koti yao? Isn’t their jurisdiction only bembas?
Exactly what is in politics for chiefs and loyal committees, establishments or councils? Our democracy is being endangered.
“This article is comprehensively a preserve of smart analytical heads above challenged cadres.”
Iwe Kamatako or sorry mataka. Ise ba MMD have failed to run the nation. What are you writing about?
Veteran, how many names do you have? This my dear is a sign of a person with multiple personalities. You need to be checked. When I was in high school I thought ba Ben Kangwa was a normal person, but reading from this blog and what I saw at Hone, awe there’s some kind of insanity in this man. Cornered desperate animal is the behavior we are seeing from this guy. You have taken all thread to yourself. The issue at hand is about Bemba Chief who has lost direction. Sata will not succumb to such a twitty like Chitimukulu. I am Bemba, but I respect the Lozi chief due to his composure and mannerism.
Mataka u r a useless d.o.g!!keep yo rantings to yourself. ama toley yobe!!!
Kalos2020, What has Veteran got to do with this article placed in today’s dairy newspapers? Are you now telling us that the real names of Veteran is David Mataka? I thought you have been insinuating that Veterann is Ben Kangwa at the Zambian Embassy in DC.My google of the article below has shown it was by Mataka a Regional Manager at Bayport Financial Services a Zambian based in Uganda.I have called a friend in Uganda and proved it so.Do you really who Veteran is or just sabailaling?
Will Pact endure the pending implosion?
BY DAVIS MATAKA
My advice to Mwinelubemba is; can you please slam him hard so he does not stand a chance of winning presidency thereafter otherwise you are in big shitt after 2011. You are dead meat mwinelubemba,but you have an opporttunity to pre-empt your looming catastrophe.
this is a waste of time..if only the cheif would indulge himself in polituics,he would have got the respect he is asking for now!cheifs stay out of politics pliz!!
One thing I like about the Bembas, is that they have indipendent ..no 17 says anything their chief says they all say yes bwana,, that is why the colonisers didnt like Bembas. may be they are too inteligent not to allow any individual to take over their minds ;; Bembas when the chief is wrong they just tell him point blank, you know why they are not hypocrits just observe them
Kalos2000, mwanawesu, Davis Mataka was instrumental in promoting Chiluba’s third term with his friends at the Times and Daily Mail. He has always eyed a diplomatic posting like his friend Rejoice Lukumba got. Mataka has always been vetted by the shushushu because of his other shenanigans which would embarrass the govt. No probs, mwanawesu, Pact will teach this tw*t a lesson.
Some people on this blog have too much time on their hands. Sata should stay clear of Chiti Mukulu, Chitimukulu was flown to India for medical attention and on top of that he was given the “brown paper bag”. So the Chief will do anything to silence Sata for more paper.
The Donors of Paris Club will also summon Chitimukulu for his racial remarks against Guy Scot. Then the people of Zambia will also summon him for disrespecting the national consitution because it bars him from participating in politics. Chief Inyambo Yeta of the Lozi was UNIP vice president but quit politics after the national constitution was amended to bar chiefs from participating in politics. Hats off to this gallant chief. Yeta has since led a quiet life outside politics. He should be commended not the mwinelubemba who has benefitted development in his pocket.
Isn’t the spokeman an MMD Mpika MP?
Mataka your article which is for the so called intellectually gifted and not the intellectually challenged can be surmised in one word ‘hogwash’. History has taught us time and again that though the Zambian people have large hearts they cannot be fooled. Ask the British they tried and failed, ask KK, even Chiluba and his third term, now you can ask Banda and his current panic mode. So what makes you think they will sit idle as Sata plunges them into ‘forgotten darkages of wholesome nationalisation’ as you put it. Put simply your article is an insult to me as a Zambian and to the intelligence of the Zambian populace as a whole. Whatever your agenda is keep it yourself.
I take it Mr Sata is a subject of Chitimukulu, otherwise they’d have no right to summon him.
And if he refuses to comply , how is it going to be enforced…?..send the royal police.. ?
#92 LORD SITH- Sata is Bisa and he is only subject to Senior Chief Kopa. Then this Bwalya Chiti is full member of MMD who has been trying to get something. Again Chitimulu brought this upon himself by insulting Sata publicly during campains for Kasama Central. Remember he even insulted Guy Scott for no apparent reason other than to show gratitude to RB for the Prado. I URGE CHIEFS IN ZAMBIA TO LEAVE THEIR SUBJECT ALONE WHEN IT COMES TO CHOSING POLITICAL LEADERS. CHIEFS HAVE THEIR OWN VOTES SO WHY INTERFERE WITH US FIK-A-LA FYENU. AFTERALL TODAYS SUCCESSIONS TO CHIEF DOM ARE CORRUPTLY DONE SO MOST OF YOU CHIEFS ARE ILLEGAL AS FAR AS TRADITION IS CONCERN. LEAVE US A LONE. VOTE FOR YOUR CANDIDATES WITHOUT INTIMIDATING US