THE Bemba Royal Council (BRC) is expected to convene a court on Dec 29th to deliver judgement in a case in which Patriotic Front (PF) president Michael Sata is alleged to have uttered derogatory remarks against Paramount Chief Chitimukulu of the Bemba people.
The council recently summoned Mr Sata to appear before it on December 29, 2009, to exculpate himself of derogatory remarks attributed to him in the media against Chief Chitimukulu.
But the opposition leader said he sees no reason to appear before the council because it has neither power nor jurisdiction over individuals like him.
But BRC spokesperson Bwalya Chiti said the court will be convened and judgement will be passed, whether or not Mr Sata and other individuals summoned appear before the council.
Mr Chiti said in an interview in Lusaka on Dec 27th that the council will sit because Mr Sata was issued with the letter of summons.
He said the BRC had also summoned Chief Chikwanda of Mpika to appear before the Bashi Lubemba court.
“What I can tell you is the letters of summons were delivered to Mr Sata and Chief Chikwanda, the traditional leader whom he (Mr Sata) falls under, to appear before the court.
“My job as the spokesperson of the council ended at delivering those summons and what you need to understand is that the court will convene to decide on the matter, whether those summoned will be present or absent. So it is up to you to find out from the said persons if they will appear or not,” he said.
Mr Sata could not be reached for comment.
Zambia Daily Mail
Ala chinangwa chimwachusa.
Bwalya Chiti you are just embarassing the Royal establishment and if this is not handled properly you will render BRC useless. Do not use the BRC to impress Mr. Banda or to win political mileage, look at what is obtaining on the ground, its like people cannot listen to the Chitimukulu because of your careless and senseless utter
Well, I do not know whether the Bemba Royal Concil has teeth to bite but if I were them, I will reveal the real identity of Sata’s father. He is one of the people who drafted the Parentage Clause and had it inserted into our constitution to block Kaunda knowing only too well that his own father, Sata-Mukulu, was Nwacusa from Mbeya in Tanganyika and Chiluba’s father from from Chibambo in Katanga. If he was really true blue Bemba, he would not embarass us in public like this, he would have found a way of ironing out his differences with Mwine LuBemba just like Aka recently did with his cousin the Litunga.
Zambia is a republic. Chiefs are just playing a nuisance value in the politics.
This is a baseless case and infridgement of human rights, bwalya chiti you are just wasting your time to fight Mr sata in this way. Would you please bring serious developmental issues before the people of Zambia than this case? These chiefs using you are waste political cadres in zambian politics.
You people are fun. If RB were to say what Sata said on any of the Chiefs, you would be at the forefront condemning him. Who is SATA any way not to respect the Chiefs. We know they do not have jurisdiction but that does not mean that they should be insulted. What were you for example saying when there was that rumour with the MMD talking ill of the Litunga. Dont be comedians only to say and support things that suit. Look beyond tarnishing ones image. Look beyond the 2011 elections and see a Zambia of then. Lets tread softly and be careful
Sebuloni @ 3 It s your Chitimukulu who is embarrassing you Bembas not Sata. All Sata said was that the development which your chief claimed to have been brought to Kasama by one Rupiah Banda was not visible to to the ordinary Kasama residents. May be being given a Prado by MMD under RB was what this Chitimukulu calls development. As long as his pocket was full it is ok. On your assumption that Sata is mwachiusa, I dont think that will have any bearing on Mr Sata as a citizen of this country.
Yah, Bwalya Chiti naye azativuta. Leave Sata alone.
This is very absurd. In the first place the chief erred when he publicly and without shame exposed his political alignment just coz he was offered a brown envelope by RB to woo support for the MMD kasama central parliamentary candidate. Later on when the PF won seat the chief was totally embarrassed especially that his subjects voted against his wish. This chief has totally embarrassed himself. You cannot compare the Litunga to chitimukulu. There has been several instances when things have really been hot in Western province but the Litunga has chosen to be silent. The same Bembas are the ones with the saying that goes ‘Infumu taibulwa kutukwa’. As long as our chiefs publicly align themselves with politicians they are bound to be the targets of the dirty that comes with politics.
This Chiti charecter along with his monkey clan are begining to irritate the s.h.i.t out of me
What rules and which land are these guys
This is very serious aaa?? so can a chief jail sata,,or what can they do to him..????
Waste of time..The chief may end up even more unpopular.. The chief has no jurisdiction on a person who do not reside in his chiefdom..sata is right and the chief will end up being embarrassed..Even if he resided in Kasama, where margistrate courts are available, sata would still not be liable to appear under the chief..This is the setup of Chiefdoms and Local govts and also City and municipal governance..
All these guys are just Lovers of the Wealth and the World where CIWA controls, Sata, RB, Chiti, Chitimukulu or munono who cares? I can only respect the owner of the Life I enjoy, HE IS THE KING OF KING, THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BIGNING AND TH END
# 6 Daniel have you really been following this story or u have just dropped in from mars that u don’t know the backgroung to this story.The chief needs to respcet himself if he needs respect,may be these facts will help you
Fact 1: Chitimukulu openly sported MMD in the kasama by elections.
Fact 2: Chitimukulu openly used rascist remarks against a citizen of this country during the kasama by elections.
Fact 3: The litungu you are dragging into this debate does not openly get involved in politics so everyone respects him.
Fact 4: Bwalya chiti is MMD so this is a ploy by MMD to fix PF.Some blogger a few months ago when this story came out aluded to the fact that the chief has a right to stop anyone going to his kingdom through this so called balubemba.
Fact MMD political strategy !!!!!.
Bemba chiefs are mad because of eating too much monkeys. Ukhuluku waba bemba niwa kolwe. Ukawalala wa bemba, niwa kolwe, Nsanje za Bemba, niza kolwe. These chiefs seems to have no advisors to tell them that Sata is not Bemba but Bisa. Atase these useless chiefs. You have stoped leading people now you want to enter politics. You are betraying your own neighbour´s son becuase of Kanitundila. Kapata mukaya, umweni akaya ukashala wachimona
Am beginning to think this paper is anti-Sata,Bwalya Chiti is the wrong Person to be sporksperson coz such positions should not be political.BRC think again,very soon PF-UPND Pact will be in power so wachu gonna do when they come for you?
Sata in embarassing bemba Royal establishment and all bembas,, hes telling us that hes not a subject of chitimukulu but an “object”…hahahaha!
Ka shitata ka Sata, you are seeing yourself already in power…??
Goodmorning all
To begin with, all these verbal attacks on the Bemba Chief ‘s integrity are ridiculous. It’s perfectly plausible to see that there is need for peace between political leaders and the Chiefs in Zambia. Unless we put aside all tribal prejudice and malicious talk against ANY Zambian tribe, everything that we have achieved in terms of national unity will be rendered worthless.
As for Mr. Sata still refusing to appear before the BRC. I must say his stubbornness is rather embarrassing. There is an urgent need for a dialogue here – the hammer must be struck while the iron is hot and both parties are quite capable of solving this problem if only they could meet.
this is a debate about a bemba chieftainship and his subject Satan so i will not comment coz my chief would not make a fool of himself in public like this and his subjects would not lower themselves to Satan’s level anyway.
Some advise to Bashi Chilufya Sata. Please know that political popularity is very fickle. It evaporates just like morning dew. The same people who are urging you to insult your traditions and culture will be insulting you like a d.o.g. This same people will be calling for your blood. You should ask Mr. Chiluba who was far more popular than you. When politics are finished, you will need your identity and culture to sit comfortably with you. Please go to Bashi Lubemba and settle what ever issues you have with them. Forget about the political parasites who pretend to support you. Go and see your Bemba chiefs. They represent your identity.
let chitimukulu respsect himself 1st..stay away from politics period…
Chiefs will bring about confusion. When Sata becomes President they will be asking him for favours forgetting that they passed judgement on him. it will be ineresesting if they say he is banned from Bemba land .
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Do these establishments have a constitution? Can someone opt out of the BRC on grounds of principles? I fear these kangaroo courts may soon start deciding Fatwas on people they don’t like. These tendencies must be kept in check by law, lest they start stoning people in the name of some weird beliefs they want imposed without any popular mandate.
lupiya put development in chief chitimukulu’s pockets
The Chitimukulu should realise that the people he leads are not agreeable with him after he exposed himself as being an MMD Cadre, Chiefs are not supposed to behave that way. let him learn from the Litunga’s way of handling issues.
Chitimukulu has really damaged his credibilty by
1. Campaigning for MMD in the Kasama violated atricle 129 of the Laws of the Republic of Zambia which states “A person shall not, while remaining a Chief, join or participate in
partisan politics.”
He can be summoned to any court in the country can cease to be a chief, but Zambians spared this disgraced chief.
2. Racial remarks made against Guy Scott are also a violation of not only acticle 23 of the Laws of Zambia (part III), but also against inernational human rights.
In the heart of his kingdom, his subjects defied him and vote for PF instead. He may be asking himself, who is the real chief here?
Now he is being used by MMD to violate PF and Mr. Sata. He is the only paramount in Chief in Zed to ever sink so low.
Chitimukulu risk loosing respect
Chief a wrong is a wrong you surpported MMD which was wrong can you just let things pass. We need fresh things to start with.
Useless Chief Chitimukulu!!!!!!!!!! You are bringing shame on us the Ba Bemba tribe. You are an embarassment not deserving any respect due to a Royal Chief.
You are just an MMD political cadre and a racist who does not deserve to be a Paramount chief for our Great Tribe.
Shemuna She!!!!!!!!!!! Shame.
Iwe Mule how can you insult your chief just like that. Sata is going to regret once ‘judgement’ is passed on him in absentia, he better show his arse to mwinelubemba today.
Ba Chitimukulu bale baila sana blow,na bafulungana…bakaamba blow ibi…
Whats wrong with this chi-chief aaii..Pure MMD cadre he must be pissed that hs party tumbled shame on ths fake chief
Sometimes there is dignity in being silent, how come some Royal Establishments still have their Royalty intact? I think it is because they do not put themselves in situations wherein they could be ridiculed, for example, the recent situation involving Aka and the Baroste Royal Establishment (BRE), the BRE never said anything, at least not in public, and Aka was left in an awkward position where he had to defend and clarify himself! The way the Litunga has been able to maintain some semblance Royalty could be instructive to other chiefs. For instance we never see or hear the Litunga praising any sitting President or is never seen receiving a Prado, or going to Mfuwe with the President! (by the way I am not Lozi myself, I am from Luapula, or is that now Congo?)
Kangaroo courts all over the country.
Gentlemen dont compare the Litunga and Chitimukulu.Cultures differ.Sata should have respected to appear before the BRE.There is nothing wrong.You cant insult the chief because you want to be come a president.By the some pipo think that HH will be a Vice to Sata.It will never happen.I know what iam talking about.These guys are just waiting for the new constitution and see if sata will be knocked out from the race.Other wise Zambia is big and at the moment no body shu think that will be come a president of Zambia.His chance was last year.2010 will be difficult for sata as HH will also stand as president.Band a will also stand as president.I can for see Milupi also standing making it difficult for the three to get 50+1 percent.A rerun will be there and Banda will get.
Gentlemen dont compare the Litunga and Chitimukulu.Cultures differ.Sata should have respected to appear before the BRE.There is nothing wrong.You cant insult the chief because you want to be come a president.By the some pipo think that HH will be a Vice to Sata.It will never happen.I know what iam talking about.These guys are just waiting for the new constitution and see if sata will be knocked out from the race.Other wise Zambia is big and at the moment no body shu think that will be come a president of Zambia.His chance was last year.2010 will be difficult for sata as HH will also stand as president.Band a will also stand as president.I can for see Milupi also standing making it difficult for the three to get 50+1 percent.A rerun will be there and Banda will get the presidency.
Summons! Mmmmmm waste of time! What does summoning Chief Chikwanda mean? Im behind with this no-se-nse.Naimwe ba Bwalya Chiti,why cant you advice the chief wisely? Dont you have something better to do? shame upon the bemba land.No developments in his area but stil wants to cling to R.Banda the tourist! Na ci road calukungu ati we are going to the palace, in this century?God help us. Stop wasting time fighting with Sata,do something sensible for your pipo.Ukushishita or Ukushipula even day time! Use Banda to develop the area not only for your person pocket/ benefit.# 34 its true that is the out come of fwaka,kulabwantailafye napashilingile.
Bwana Sata if their intentions are to humiliate you, don’t even bother to appear before those Kachusu imbibers. They are mainly inconsequential, fact.
I think the time has come for the nation to redefine the role of the Litunga, the Chitimukulu, the Mpezeni and the lot in our midst. Is it logical, for instance, to have hereditary titles? Should these guys play active roles in politics, if they were not elected, in a Republic? Should they be unifying factors or bootlickers? Are they civil servants who should support everyone who comes to power? Let’s talk, bana ba hesu.
Is Sata not a Bisa and therefore not under the juristiction of the Chitimukulu? Sata has to be very careful as this issue has the potential of turning people in Northern province against him. Anyway, those who think he will ever be the president of Zambia – dream on.
Too late, the judgement has just been passed.Sata is no longer ‘free’ to go to lubemba. his map of Zambia has just shrunk by about 40%.
anyway his chances to presidency have only suffered by only about 10%
#6 is absolutely right.we are all subjects of these chiefs before govts were established. People be educated.On a micro level, the chief has jurisdiction over his subjects.if you were in Mongu and you did what ba Chilufya Sata did,you would have seen or felt the wrath of the royal establishment.If you are bemba and you are speaking or demeaning the chiefdom like you gentlemen..i an easterner is very ashamed on your behalf because you are putting our traditional values to the kerb.They say an educated person is one that should fit in any given society and you might not even know him.Politics aside i think Mr Sata should have quietely gone to the chief and apologize for whatever might have been “misquoted” about him.Learned poeple will respect him.The same applies to the chief he should…
not be playing to the gallery.This Bwalya Chiti of yours is not helping the situation.The advisor of a chief should always exercise restraint and not rush to the press and show off his powerless.wanya,wanya will not solve this problem.who knows this Chilufya Sata may just be your next stu-pid president and then what?in ngoni we say magenge yonkhoka chulu,literally meaning ants follow the ant hill.the hill does not go to the ants.in this case the hill is the chief.bushe ninshi mulandila ati ni mfumu kwena?bane mulekwata umuchinshi..let that Sata pick his cell phone and talk to the chief and apologize quietely without the press.on the other hand RB could bounce back.then ba sata nifofololo! Please do not encourage anarchy mumushi.
not play to the gallery.wanya,wanya will not solve the problem here.ba # 15 you sound like a PF vigilante.mulekwata umuchnshi nemfumu.i am not bemba but i think you are demeaning the royal establishment.lets progress,the one to solve this issue is Sata.he is the one who is said to have uttered the words of derogatory.you not going to insult other people because they don’t support you in a boxing match.If you are smart you should try to win them instead by doing everything in your disposal.Mushala tried that bullying people to support you is not what a clever politician does.be witty.Sta should convince the chief, he will be the best leader and not RB and hence the chief would probably support him.Not bullying or calling names.C’mon now such are bad politics.Bane mulekwata umuchinshi.
The chiefs gave away real power to the european colonialists who later handed it over to the citizenry of the nation states that were created at independence. Their roles now are simply a token. They have no armies, no treasuries, no police they have basically been reduced to beggars of whatever government is in power in lusaka. Their freinds in Europe (monarchs by birth) have decided to play a ceremonial role and have given any pretence of having any real power.
As`a bemba, I just feel torn apart, I: Bwalya Chiti is not the right person to be the spokesperson for BRE because of his conflicts of interests. 2: Paramount Chitimukulu is appetite for richies is a source of this issue I say this because he Ackson Chilekwa Mwamba aka Chitimukulu this is what he has been doing for his entire life whether in UNIP. 3: Sata will meet bashilubemba but it will be inform of reconciling and not any punishment because Chitimukulu knows that the subjects will not support him in any form. Ubufumu bushindika abene
There is a problem in the bemba KINGDOM.i feel sorry for bakaponya ..sata looks to be powerful and he does not give a F…..sad sad we will see if sata wins in that area it means he is powerfull than that chief..this will mean chiefs will be useless..lets wait and see who is powerfull..chief VS sata
EVERYBODY SEE THIS VERY INTERESTING
SATA VS CHITI MUKULU
POLITICS VS TRADITION
TOWN VS VILLEGE
MINISTER VS KAPASO
INSULTS VS RESPECT
Sata, without Chitimukulu’s support, with the President and Ministers, not to mention govt machinery beat the MMD in Kasama Central By-elections! What more in a general election. This just shows one with reason the irrelevance of Chiefs, and how people have awakened to their own suffering and are yearning for change. It is no doubt to people with reason that he can weap thier a.sses again! it is because of mediocrity in govt starting with the President, his VP and Ministers that people are fed up!
leave mr sata alone uncle, though am white and i prefer staying here in lusaka (chilenje) where there is development, i will never perform in kasama as long as people like my uncle bwalya chiti keeps on wrongly advising our chief, the truth is our chief is poor and uneducated while the litunga is rich and educated
Fellow Zambians,Mr.Sata and the Paramount Chief are all Leaders but Paramount is Superio to Sata,Now both are wrong.
Firstly the paromaunt made a mistake by commenting and supporting a paticular Party or person becoz all were his subjects.this in itself plus Chiti a political tool for RB/MMD drew the paramount chief in this dust.
Secondly,Mr.Sata also as a Leader,he was supposed not to say anything after RB’s tool announced this summon,coming from a Royal family,I was not happy with Mr. Sata’s daring of the establishment.He should have remained Silent or gone to meet the Chief without people Knowing.If it were him in that position and his subject regardles of his National Status acts in that manner what can he do but all Loyal Establishments should avoid Inclining particular parties.
ok spare mr sata and the chief now
The same pple that sang Hosanna to the King , son of David, are the same pple that demonstrated in the city n said crucify him, bcause he is not the king of the Jews, if the did that to the son of man (Jesus), who is sata that thinks he will b popular till he dies. His end has come, take it from us that nos sata very well that, he is about to receive a crucify him msg very soon, wait n seee.
24, “when Sata becomes President”, indeed when will that be haha haha!!
Bwalya Chiti do not use this for your political milage. The truth is Chitimukulu is an embarrassement to the Bembas. He is an MMD cadres. Advise him to leave above politics, then he will be respected. Consider the Litunga; he has a strong voive because he is not a cadre and is King of influence. Chitimukulu has no influence on anyone. He is “one man one vote” I look foward to a time when we are going to have a bemba chief who will truthfully speak for his people. The present Chitimukulu is a shame. If he will behave the same in 2011 during the campagns, he will risk alot. That is why I have always believed that Chiefs are abusers ofn their own people. I’m yet to know the role Chitimukulu plays in fostering development in Bembaland. Can someone educate me on this; may Im lost.
This is Zambia.. Sata can go anyhwere he wants ..what lubemba are u talking about. That hunger striken place full of poverty and moraless chiefs who support thiefs That place need sata, he is the only bemba leaning light in the political limelight right now.. Ch
Chitimukulu is a MMD political cadre and should face the reality of politics. SATA DID NOT DO OR SAY ANYTHING WRONG!!!
Sata will never be president of zambia.
What kangoroo court ? It is a Kolwe court ! Mwaba ifi pato @#$%&