CHIEF Government spokesperson Ronnie Shikapwasha says it is hypocritical of Catholic Church Ndola Diocese Bishop Alick Banda to say Zambians must not allow former President Chiluba to be receiving his presidential allowances because he is supporting the MMD.
In an interview yesterday, Lieutenant-General Shikapwasha said it is hypocritical for the Bishop to say that now and wondered why he did not make a similar statement when Dr Chiluba supported the PF in 2006.
He said it is important for Bishop Banda to maintain his integrity.
“My advice to Bishop Banda is that we must be people of integrity.
When Dr Chiluba supported the PF in 2006, where was he?” Gen. Shikapwasha asked.
He accused Bishop Banda of involving himself in politics.
Gen. Shikapwasha said it is easy for people to point fingers at others while forgetting the past and that people accusing Dr Chiluba of actively engaging in politics should be objective in their statements.
Gen. Shikapwasha also said it is important that men of God continue to be truthful.
“As men who lead the flock of God, we must also be people of truth and not of double standards,” he said.
Gen. Shikapwasha made the statement in reaction to Bishop Banda’s statement in The Post newspaper in which he is quoted as having said Dr Chiluba’s presidential allowances should not be given to him because he has become a political cadre.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
Sata committed no crime over that K1.2bn – Chongwe
By George Chellah
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Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata
Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata
LUSAKA lawyer Rodger Chongwe yesterday said Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata committed no crime in the matter that was investigated against him by the Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) in 1992.
ACC director general Godfrey Kayukwa was last week quoted in the state-controlled Times of Zambia as confirming that when Sata served as local government and housing minister in 1992, he allegedly directed his officers to place K1.2 billion government funds into a special 45 days investment account at Standard Chartered Bank contrary to financial…
Sata committed no crime over that K1.2bn – Chongwe
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ACC director general Godfrey Kayukwa was last week quoted in the state-controlled Times of Zambia as confirming that when Sata served as local government and housing minister in 1992, he allegedly directed his officers to place K1.2 billion government funds into a special 45 days investment account at Standard Chartered Bank contrary to financial regulation number 10
if at first the mistake was not picked up i does not make it right the second time. I does not mean that since the Catholic did not mention it when it is allegedly that Chiluba was supporting Sata then it was right. a wrong is a wrong
Sata committed no crime over that K1.2bn – Chongwe
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Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata
LUSAKA lawyer Rodger Chongwe yesterday said Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata committed no crime in the matter that was investigated against him by the Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) in 1992.
And the Attorney General looked at the matter. In the first place, there was no gain accrued to Mr Sata,” Dr Chongwe explained. “The interest which was earned by the money for those few days was in favour of the Ministry of Local Government and Housing and so it was regarded as a technical error and no criminal act had been committed by Mr Sata.”
Dr Chongwe said he was even surprised that 18 years later, the matter is coming up.
And who is it that has actually alleged that in fact there was corruption? I knew about the matter, the Attorney General knew about the matter and we recommended that there is no case here for prosecution,” Dr Chongwe said.
“And what is the government now… Has home affairs minister Mr Lameck Mangani brought new evidence or has the ACC brought new evidence that there was corruption in the technical error made by the minister in 1992? And why was the minister allowed to keep his job from 1992 until when he left government in 2001?
“That’s all I can say because I was the Minister of Justice. No crime was committed by Michael Sata. That’s why nothing was done. But if people want to do that, it is very likely that at the end of the day they might pay money for mischievous…
It is clear that the MMD has no respect for the word of GOD. See how this kingdom crumbles!! And it will happen in our life time.
prosecution.”
Last week, Kayukwa acknowledged that ACC investigated Sata for financial misconduct involving K1.2 billion when he served as local government minister.
“I wish to confirm that the case of suspected corruption and abuse of office by Mr Sata was thoroughly investigated by the ACC in 1992 and forwarded to the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) for consent to prosecute, which was not given. Therefore, the matter was closed in 1993,” said Kayukwa.
Shakapwasha you lie to the Zambians that you go to Parliament to work but you sleep there fool
Shikapwasha is a let down. whatever he utters, mostly it’s nonsense. He is the same chap that accused the catholic of genocide in Rwanda now he is flexing his huge but powerless muscles on Bishop Alick Banda. Shikapwasa should know that it takes a long time of serious training to produce a catholic priest. Unlike Shikapwasha who is just ordained after one overnite prayer meeting. They should heed the Catholic on concerns they raise. Not the MMD antagonising the Catholics, it wont work.
That’s all he knows….What a shame. MMD should allow people to criticise it if it wants to improve the lot of many.
Ba Rev. Shikapwasha my simple advise to you, Ba Shikofu (Bishop ) Alick Banda is Doctor in Law he just doen’t open his month without knowing what he is talking about, it is the law which Chiluba create that when you leave plot 1 you should not involve in active politics.
By the way what is Rev. Shikapwasha professional qualification?
Pipo pipo, the law says a former head of state should not hold office in any political a party that does not stop him/her for surporting or campaigning for any person or party of choice. Kk hasd done time after time. Its happens in America. England. Come come on. This blind hatred for FTJ is clouding pipo’s judgement. DEMOCRACY is not about only rights and welfare for the pipo you like , it alsi includes all other citizens
Ba Positivist, KK was thrown in jail and lost his pension. Probably he held some office that I have not heard of. UK, USA, or any others democracy is not Zambian. So, I see no reason to compare them to Zambian. Opposition in those countries are financed by the government and more over how old are their democracies?
# 13 how dare you talk of democracy in Zambia when the simple ans basic right of expression is not there. pipo cant even honk to show displeassure with the govt they elected.you know jack about democracy mister, former heads of states in America are formally asked to campaign for the present president and its done above board, publicly and with the support of the party. Has RB formally asked Chiluba to campaign for him. Its all shady and dubious. so dont give us a lecture about democracy because you dont know the half of it
Positivist, have you read the other statement by the IG? Democracy were you cannot honk is not democracy. Find another word for it.
I thought Shriek had reformed his big beak? When LPM was alive this man would stake his life to defend what many thought was harrassment of Chiluba by Mwanawasa. Now he is for Chiluba because RB says so. People like this fallen General are dangerous both to themselve and to others. If today RB says we should start eating a mafi because it is good for us. Shikapwasha will defend that decree to the last( as RB lasts)
Kamikaze prists are at it again. The should openly transform into a political party so that they openly support their hule satan.
Hey dont mind wat u say but polites is a game of fools………I cant imagin that this real in our country
This ***** called Bishop Banda should not just concetrate on political comments but help his Catholic priests who are busy drinking and scr****ng married church members. Not too long ago a young lady was dirvorced for being caught with a parish priest on the CB who admitted taking the lady for a drive to Luansya and buying her chips. Who is a Bishop? In the past these were respected people not any more.They are dirty cocroaches whose advise is not worth listerning to. Where was This ***** bishop Banda when FTJ supported Sata in 2006? Does it only become a crime when its MMD?Stupid double standards.I only respect fair and honest actions even if its against my child, if your advise is fair and well meant I will take it not this rubish.There is Sata still being servrd Holly comminion.
Bishop Banda is a power hungry man that ousted Bishop O’regon. The drive within his innerself is catapulted by greed. And because of greed he is now getting shortsighted. FJT is not involved in politics, he is merely exercising his freedom of speech. The Bishop must stop practicing popularist sermons!
Catholics believe in justice and they speak for the voiceless. saying that bishops that they are enganging in politics is not true.they are doing their part to speak for the voiceless flock.
# 20 mind your language,
# 21 the bishop is also exercising his right, the freedom of speech
#20
2011 HERE WE COME AGAIN!! – I thought PF kaponyas are the ones that you use that kind of language?
# 18, try and think before you ink. breath in and re read your comment. now you see what nonsense you wrote
#22. i meant to say that…… saying that bishops are enganging in politics……
I too also wonder were all these condemnations against Dr FTJ Chiluba were when he was supporting PF. PF cadres and sympathizers are hypocrites of the worst kind. They have a double standard like never seen on this earth. I have never seen a cabal of biased arrogant cadres as I have seen in the PF and it shows even on this blog.
I am not a fan of Dr. FTJ Chiluba but I believe we should be fair when making our opinions about him. This is a democratic nation and everyone should be free to speak their mind whether the PF like it or not.
#21 you are correct.
# 22 Do you mean to say the parish priest who was caught with someone’s wife was speaking for the voiceless?? Is this the justice you are trying to bring out?? Allowing Sata for example who has gone against several Catholic teachings and principles to continue receiving Holly communion while others are punished for the same offence. Wait untill one of these priests Scre**ws your wife or your Daugher then you will know the true meaning and stand point of these Bishops and priests in the catholic of today.
If you are not a catholic and you dont understand what and who a Bishop is then please shut up. Our Bishop is a Citizen of Zambia and has the right to express himself. When those tunthemba churches support AlaaBee its all fine it’s sugar sugar, but when you are repreminded by The catholic Church then all insults comeup. You also forget that your pastors also make ****ups, Look at Dan Pule your Short Lover kafupi, Rev Shikapwasha am sorry I cant compare them to My Bishop Alick Banda He is a Great man of God.
Politricks ticking at it´s best,freedom of one speaking out not respected. This is the time that R S should have making a lot of sense making if he was going to talk about what the gov´t intends to do as steps to improving the floods situation that has rocked the capital lately. But we see is people that are out there,regarded as leaders but all the do is gaze or have a nap. The the majority have their say.
Why do we have to pay for freedom of speech?
Those of you attacking the priest that committed that crime stop dreaming He was punished he was taken to curt. That does not stop the catholic church from speaking out. Priests are not Gods they are helpers of God besides that they are human beings just like us. Those of you who are talking too much look into your lives and see if you have never sinned before most of you muli na Bana bakumbali you dont even know some of them. You do pickups everyday ( chiwamila galu Kuluma Mbuzi ). My point is that Pastor Priest Sister they are all human beings and they all have history, But that should not stop them from defending their flock from Hipocrits Like Shika the sleeping beuty
# 30 well said, alot of pipo are just yapping about Sata and the holy communion when they know nothing about Catholic church doctrines. # 29 if i was you i would be more scared of rev Pule, FTJ, for these guys are documented womanisers. If at all you have nightmares about someone screwing your wife or daughter it should be from Pule and Chiluba. They will justify with a quote from the bible
Besides the catholic Church in Zambia has got a lot of hospitals and schools where the gorvnement does not even think of developing. When we talk about Politics they catholics are not allowed to comment on anything but when we have serious problems in the rural areas the first thing is that we rush to a mission hospital then we praise them like anything, but on national issues they should shut up. Now who is double standed here?????????????????????????????? your children go to catholic run schools as well:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w:-w
Shikapwasha,same old story.Can you please address the issue in question and not try to divert people?Is Chiluba practicing politics in Zambia?If not explain! If so,what is GRZ doing about it?Surely in this day and age you can shamelessly attack the Bish and expect that people will somehow listen to your nonsense?Moreover,you accuse him of getting involved in politics-you are a reverend yourself,what are you doing in politics?Probably you know yourself better than us that is why you do not qualify to be questioned as a minister of the gospel getting involved in politics. May God help this country.
#28 Capitalist
Shani mudala,we havent argued in a while,hows things…and why aint you a fan of FTJ,coz im not either
# 34 you have hummered the Nail on the head keep ladies away from characters like Kafupi Pule, not even mentioning those that have minors as wives
LETS RECALL WHAT RONNIE SHIKAPWASHA SAID IN 2005:
Zambian authorities will arrest former president Frederick Chiluba for revealing details of secret tunnels leading from the state house to other parts of the capital Lusaka, the home affairs minister has said.
“As you are aware, former president Chiluba’s immunity was lifted so there is still room to include this charge,” Home Affairs Minister Ronnie Shikapwasha said in a statement published by the privately owned Post newspaper.
Chiluba in 1995 revealed that underground tunnels built by his predecessor Kenneth Kaunda ran from the state house complex, where the president’s office and official residence are located, to various parts of the city.
Mr Reverend, No one takes notice of your waffling. Every time you wake up from your slumber you bore us with your dreams. It’s likely that right now you are already asleep, ‘Sweet dreams’!
Bishop Banda quoted by the Post? He has not learnt how the Post has messed up “bishop” telesphore who has been reduced to a party cadre? Ba Post te newshipaper bane, it is something akin to toilet paper, so I reserve my comments.
#39 Mule top post son,you the man,bravo champ!!! ^:)^ drink a beer on me BRO
😮 Rev your continuous attacks on the catholic church is becoming increasingly personal and out of line. What is wrong is definitely wrong. Chiluba’s involvement in politics was wrong then as much as it is wrong today. Shikapwa fimo fimo leadership is about recognizing that. Tell us if you who call yourself Rev are truthful. First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. You of all people should understand that while your president is busy trying to find investors the men of God you’re busy persecuting are working for the poor in the communities every minute, hour and days.
Why has your Govt chosen to fight with the NGOs and the Church pseudo Reverand????
Why do you persecute the church, Shikapwasha???:-w:-??
Another by election Baneeeeeeee!=))=))=))=d>=d>=d>=d>.Here cames the PACT at its speed.:-j:-j:-j.By the way Shikapwasha should not intimidate the Katolikas, he evenaccuesd as of trying to bring Rwanda in Zambia and we have not forgotten.~X(~X(~X(
#39 Mule- I wish SYCOPHANTS like Senior Citizen, could take their time to search their consciousness before they can support every nonsense that comes from MMD. Yes I said that this Shikapwasha can kill his own children if ordered by RB just to keep his miserable. It is a shame to be ruled by people who can change color faster than a chameleon.
Your aspirations in your day to day life on earth will surely be tabled one day in heaven and Christ the head of the church will ask you. Why were you persecuting my servants and me? Was it for the sake of silver? Shikapwash repent! You still have time. The catholic folowers will be nuts with you if you become adamant and not ready to quit you divicive politically motivated nature.
I will pray for you [-o<
RB take care FTJ could be eying you know who. You could be another Mwanza
yaba bane am just dreeming of going ku America bane.I dreem to much bane may be i need prayers from TB Joshua.Somebody help me bane i see the world spining bane.deuces :)>-
Smoothcriminal
I am doing fine and hope you are well. As for your question on Dr. Chiluba, I just have to say I have my reasons.
Have a great day/night everybody.
Sata should not take Holy Eucharist-Priest
A ROMAN Catholic Church priest in Chipata has said it is not in order for a man married to two women or those publicly known to have extramarital affairs to receive the Holy Eucharist.
St Atanazio Parish priest, Richard Chiyanjano said in an interview yesterday that the church doctrine only permitted a man in a monogamous relationship to take the Holy Eucharist.
“The Holy Eucharist, as far as I am concerned, is not allowed to be eaten by a man who is married to more than one wife or who has a known relationship or children outside marriage, the church doctrine does not allow that,” Father Chiyanjano, who is also Caritas Chipata director, said.
Fr Chiyanjano added: “What I know is that if a man is married to two wives, the first wife is free to eat the Holy Eucharist but the other one, including the man, are not allowed to eat it.”
Last Friday, Zambia Episcopal Conference president, George Lungu, when asked why Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata had not been stopped from receiving the Holy Eucharist despite allegedly siring two children outside his marriage, refused to comment on the matter, saying the issue should be addressed by Mr Sata’s parish.
Being a christian I feel ashamed of what has become of Shikapwasha, Ba Ronnie on judgment day you will not stand before MMD but before God. Repent and make things right with God, you are supposed to be a light to the world not darkness, let the nation see God in you again, you might die in your sin, remember liars will not inherit the kingdom of God and you have told too many lies since you became Minister. A true christian does not continue to sin deliberately, doesn’t your heart condemn you each time you speak a lie? RB will not save you from the wrath of God.
Leaders’ infidelity and public life
Oh! What a week and if you are a keen follower of the Press and politics in Zambia, these last seven days must have gone down as some of the most interesting in a long time. The issues of infidelity, or alleged infidelity, the so called “secret families exposé’s- haa! What a mouth full.
As the foray continues to unfold, I decided it would be of utmost interest to the public to again dedicate this week to some of the developments, which occurred, and what the implications to society this could have.
Not so long ago, the international Press was awash with headlines about the other life of golf icon Tiger Woods who was almost clubbed by his wife for alleged infidelity and was only saved courtesy of a fire hydrant in which his car rammed as he dared an escape from his enraged wife. He ended up with a concussion.
The fall-out, an emotional apology to his wife, the golfing fraternity and a couple of few millions of dollars in lost franchises from what the morally upright, seemingly unblemished and judgmental business society felt would harm their cause.
Another scandal was that of Chelsea Football club captain John Terry who reportedly took the lover of a teammate and I can assure you they never lived happily ever after- for the footballer; he lost the England captain’s armband and a lot of respect from his colleagues.
Nearer home, the story of Jacob Zuma and his many wives spiraled out of control with critics calling him all manner of names.
But the Zulu South African president came out of it almost unscathed and believe it or not, we hear he is about to take another wife into his kraal, man he must be a charmer!
I know this may not settle well with most of our women folk who may not resist to call me a “Male chauvinist………” but look here, it takes two to tangle and I doubt so much if the numerous Mrs. Zumas could be bundled in the category of vulnerable.
Anyway, Zuma himself has acknowledged that he is a Zulu traditionalist and his culture permits him to take on as many wives as he can afford.
And depending from which pedestal of high moral standard you are criticising there is always justification for what you are doing or not doing.
Factors like cultural orientation: Western or African, religious standing, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, atheist or otherwise, all these situations in their variation will determine how to live your life and by what standard you will be judged.
The problem I seem to have is where people want to employ double standards in their lives- wanting to have the best of all worlds.
Mr Michael Sata inadvertently questioned the morality of Dr Frederick Chiluba who was traversing the length and breadth of the Copperbelt singing praise of President Rupiah Banda’s sound economic policies.
When Mr Sata touched on the marriage of the former president to his blushing bride Regina, he did not realise that he would open a Pandora’s box.
Now we are privy to all sorts of carefully tucked away family secrets, which surely should have remained where they were, away in the closets.
I am very disappointed with the clergy and especially the Roman Catholic Church leadership in Zambia who have conspicuously kept quiet over these allegations of impropriety on the part of Mr Sata.
Several Press queries over the matter to the Catholic Church over the same have gone unanswered or the people spoken have continued to dodge the questions.
What I am seeing here is a case of double standards being employed by the Church, (Roman Catholics) why have they not made a stand over the matter up to now.
Or do we take it that there is indeed substance in the allegations that Mr Sata’s “concubine” is indeed related to some senior Church leader.
#56 Mwata- Catholic Priests are not allowed to divulge any information on any one because they have made a vow to confitiality, simple as that. In the Catholic Church, if one sins one has a chance of redeeming by going to confession. If Mr. Sata was not married in Church, the Church would ensure he regularises his marriage. And if bore children out side marriage he is free to go for confession where upon showing contrition, he may start to receive holy communion. If there wasnt such a passage in the Church most of us were going to be barred from partaking in holy communion. If God can forgive our sins how can a human stop a fellow men from praising his God? This would be a bigger sin than the one the sinner had commited. SATA is not special in the Church, he is like me and you.
The Catholics themselves have not been immune to such allegations over sexual misbehavior and the Pope is on record apologising to victims of those sexually abused by some too “active” prelates, some of whom have been accused of homosexuality.
Why the fuss about Mr Sata?
Well he is a national leader seeking to take over the reigns of power at the highest order and the sooner he publicly apologises to all, the better the chances of him getting on the track of his national agenda.
The Catholics are not doing him a favour either by trying to mask him from the shame and fall from grace after the revelations.
The questions are still begging for the Catholic fraternity to either publicly condemn him or defend and praise him for what he has done.
Or do we conclude that for some Catholic priests there is too much to hide that the moment they condemn Mr Sata, someone from their past will spill the beans about children they sired and hid from society just to gain acceptance in the eyes of the public and to be able to sway in the robes and gowns of the Church as they drink wine from the chalices of copper and break the holy Eucharist bread?
We all look up to the Church for spiritual direction and blessings and keeping quiet about such scandal and only crying wolf when an honorable member of Parliament is captured on camera blinking, but with his eyes closed is an abuse of this God given calling.
Let us as Catholics be seen to also condemn our flock when there is a wrong or injustice done.
At the rate things are going, the partisan stance that some leaders of the Church have taken, especially the Catholic Church which is very respected around the world can be its undoing.
Maybe we should instead petition the Pope to put this matter to rest?
Leaders regardless of which religious orientation they subscribe must live by their doctrines and not to want to borrow what they think is the best for them.
# 68 what a hypocrite, did the catholics ever ever demand pentecostals to condemn Dan pule when divorced and re married? Did the catholics go on top of the mountain to ask pentecostals to condemn Dan Pule when he was involved in an illegal Gold deal? Did The catholics ever push the pentes to condemn Chiluba? if your answer is no, then why do you want the Catholics to condemn Sata. You see dont come here and start discussing things you have no idea about. You see the catholic church is not a kantemba like some of the other churches we have around. we have oredr and procedures. There you are busy quoting some priest in Chipata who may noyt even know anything about Mr. sata and you come here pasting it all over thinking you have done something sensible. my advice to you is sit down and issues
#68 go to the parish priest and ask what should be done in such a situation. You express your ignorance again by claiming you petition the pope. What has the pope got to do with this issue. This is an issue for the parish priest to sort out and mabye the issue had come up a long time ago but because of your natural hate for a human being you would like to make noise when its not neccessary. So if you have issues with Mr Sata’s morality go and report to his Parish priest and present your evidence not just shouting and making noise over things you hardly understand. I know you may dislike Mr. Sata but claiming you are holier than him is absolutly un christian
Mwata, it appears you have a problem. I have explained in 66 but it seems you are not reading other people’s comments except writing your un informed opinions. You dont know how Sata went about this Church business and you will never know because what is discussed in the Confession Box remains in the Conession Box.This is code of confidentiality you find in the Catholic Church, iwe MMD without your own brains.
Deja Vu says: this is what i am trying to explain to him but i dont know where he is missing it. this is the problem of trying to condemn anything for the sake of doing it. like i said probably his hate for Sata mybe the reason
hey ba shikapwasha,are you awake now?my little advice is that dont sleep on duty,because when you sleep,they sleep you
sir!
Good Afternoon
Not really much to say on this one except that Church and State has always been a treacherous combination in world history. In the long run it all comes down to vanity, so the Bishop might just aswell hold his corner.
Hi walai (the real one), I admire your creativity but your gravatar… not exactly the perfect one for a news site. Anyways, take care and good luck in America.:)>-
All catholics to vote for the PACT. By the way we are the biggest denomination in Zambia
Good well and Deja Vu you have explained in the most simple way even a child can understand. if that fool Mwata does not understand please just leave him be, dont even waste any of your wisdom on that ignorant, unrepentant worm. He is all about arguing without reason. Pansaka ta pa bula chipuba and thats our chipuba. We accept him in our society so that eco system is not disturbed. other than that he is just an empty tin, running around like a headless chicken
No country in contemperary world can give its highest office in the land to a publicly declared s-e-x-u-a-l predator.Sata must be turned into a s-e-x-u-a-l rehabilitation and undergo all the therapy then get the certification to be reintegreted in public life under radar.In the USA as a s-e-x offender, he would be carrying a life time mark to his name body and domicile.He would be reporting himself to the police every week and foreifeit all public benefits such high profile jobs.How do we shove a s-e-x-u-a-l predator on plot one then expect him to confer with world dignitaries?
Patriot i think you MMd cadres are going mad. You cant even make an intelligent arguement. where has this sex of about. again i beg you guys, try and think before you write, dont write with emotion my brother please please please. Ati sexual predator. Do you even look at the things you write?
# 74 dont throw stones in the dark or the stone may hit something and boomrang against you. All this so called SEX scandals revelations against SATA are just a means by MMD to ensure the man does not stand. You MMD know that the stupid consitition you are trying to concot at the Nut Cases Coven (NCC) may not be ready for the 2011 elections, so you are looking for a way to succeed. Next you will say Mr Sata Chitulika Snr had many wives so Sata Jnr cannot stand. If you say he is finished why are you going out of your to block him. Even hiring Kafupi, a well known pervet to help decampain the man. Oh twlikalila indalama ku Mufulira. He thought we were with him.
Kalos 2020. keep things in perspective. KK was president of UNIP after replacing Kebby Musokotwane. AS for throwing KK in prison I dont support that ( though KK threw lots of his opponents in prison). However this does nor stop FTJ under the current law from campaihning for who he wants. KK has done it. He did it 2001 and 2006
THAT INCLUDES YOU, SHIKI. YOU SHOULDN’T BE GETTING PAID. CITIZENS DID NOT GIVE YOU A SLEEPING -ON-DUTY JOB.
Thought big nose was a Rev! Am wrong?
shikapwasha has a good point here,,,,why now why not then ,,,when chiluba openly supported sata?
NDOBO ku malota boss but didnt Shikapwasha himself also condemn Chiluba and call for his arrest? didnt Chiluba is his darling
Ka Chiluba aka mbuma. Yes he needs to stop getting his allowances kaili his campaigning for the potatoe head.
Ba Patriot naimwe muli ba nchito, where does the rehad stuff fit in this discussion?:-w
WHY is Shika always attacking PIPO?
AFTER ALL IT APPEARS CHILUBA’S SUPPORT FOR ONE POLITICAL PARTY IS SOMETHING THAT CAN NOT BE IGNORED BY A SERIOUS COMPETING POLITICAL PARTY THAT WANTS TO WIN. IF IT WHERE NOT, WE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HEAR THESE OUTCRIES IT AT ALL. IT APPEARS POLITICAL PARTIES KNOW THE TELLING EFFECT THAT THE ABSENCE OF FTJ’S ENDOSEMENT WOULD HAVE ON THEIR PERFORMANCE, HENCE THE NOISES. IF WE THINK FTJ IS NOT A FACTOR WHY NOT JUST FORGET ABOUT HIS SUPPORT FOR A PARTICULAR PARTY/CANDIDATE
AFTER ALL IT APPEARS CHILUBA’S SUPPORT FOR ONE POLITICAL PARTY IS SOMETHING THAT CAN NOT BE IGNORED BY A SERIOUS COMPETING POLITICAL PARTY THAT WANTS TO WIN. IF IT WHERE NOT, WE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HEAR THESE OUTCRIES IT AT ALL. IT APPEARS POLITICAL PARTIES KNOW THE TELLING EFFECT THAT THE ABSENCE OF FTJ’S ENDOSEMENT WOULD HAVE ON THEIR PERFORMANCE, HENCE THE NOISES. IF WE THINK FTJ IS NOT A FACTOR WHY NOT JUST FORGET ABOUT HIS SUPPORT FOR A PARTICULAR PARTY/CANDIDATE?