Saturday, November 23, 2024

President Lungu is not eligible to stand for elections in 2021, KBF agrees with John Sangwa

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Twenty twenty-one Presidential candidate, Kelvin Fube Bwalya, has advised President Edgar Chagwa Lungu not to be trapped by some people that are telling him that he is eligible to contest the 2021 presidential elections.

Discussing the Rule of Law on Prime TV live debate last night, Mr. Bwalya, who is commonly known as KBF, appealed to President Lungu to be wary and not to be cheated and used by some deceitful lieutenants who are pushing him to go for his third time presidential contest.

The prominent Zambian Lawyer and political strategist warned that doing so would be going against the republican Constitution.

He agreed with two other discussants, John Sangwa and Mulambo Haimbe, both lawyers, that President Lungu is not eligible to stand for elections in 2021 because he has already held the office of the presidency twice and elected to as President of Zambia twice as the Constitution prescribes.

Mr. Sangwa is a Constitutional lawyer and law tutor, while Mr. Haimbe is a practicing lawyer and parliamentary aspiring candidate for Lusaka Central constituency on the United Party for National Development (UPND) ticket.

The trio humbly appealed to President Lungu to respect clauses of the law of the land, which he personally accented to.

Mr. Bwalya further wondered why some learned lawyers would mislead the public by suggesting that President Lungu never held office after his election in 2015.
“President Lungu represented Zambia at international fora as republican President many times. So, why should someone argue that President Lungu did not hold office,” Mr. Bwalya wondered.

He warned that those insisting that President Lungu never held office could land the President into serious trouble with the law.
“If you say President Lungu never held office, are you saying he deceived the people of Zambia when he was representing us on international assignments? Let’s be serious when we are discussing national issues,” he warned.

Meanwhile, Mr. Bwalya reiterated his respect and love for President Lungu.

“My opinion on this eligibility issue is based on facts and respect for the rule of law. I have nothing against President Lungu. He’s my President and older brother. But all am saying is that the law does not permit him to stand for the third time because he has already been elected twice and held office twice,” Mr. Bwalya said.

Mr. Bwalya said the PF was still a viable political party and had done remarkably well in some aspects of national development. He, however, noted that the party needed a change of leadership to win the confidence of the people if it were to win 2021 elections.

“I have traversed the country and I know what the youth are saying. They are calling for new leadership of the party if we were to retain political power in 2021,” he said.

And Mr. Sangwa said he was not being political or partisan in expressing his strong opinion that President Lungu is not eligible to contest the 2021 presidential elections. He said his interest was to ensure that the rule of law was respected by all, including the President.
“Rule of law simply means no one is above the law. Not even the President. The Zambian law says if you have held office twice and elected twice, you are not eligible for a third time, period. Nothing personal. Even if it were another person, not necessarily Mr. Lungu, the law would still apply,” Mr. Sangwa observed.

Mr. Sangwa also thanked the PF Government and President Lungu for allowing free debate on the eligibility issue and Bill 10. This, he said, was as it should be in a democracy.

And Mr. Haimbe said the PF risked not having a candidate for 2021 presidential elections if the insisted on the candidature of President Lungu.

The UPND member said the opposition party would be so glad to partition President Lungu’s nomination because the incumbent is barred by current law.

68 COMMENTS

  1. I wanted to read the articles not interpreted to, and when i read, I understood that even interpreters of the law fail to understand it. In this case, the simple law haven’t been understood even by our leaders. If President ECL was a running mate, he would have been eligible, but since he wasn’t but rather elected to office of Predincy, he can not stand. The constitution doesn’t allow that. How come our leaders are failing to understand this, is it the English wording used which is complicated to the or what exactly is the problem?

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  2. 5(b), the Vice-President or the President-elect shall serve for the unexpired term of office and be deemed, for the purposes of clause (3) –
    (a) to have served a full term as President if, at the date on which the President assumed office, more than three years remain before the date of the next general election; or
    (b) not to have served a term of office as President if, at the date on which the President assumed office, less than three years remain before the date of the
    next general election
    AN ACADEMIC DEBATE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN LEGAL JUSTIFICATION. HOLD ON. YOUR TURN IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER. HISTORY WILL JUDGE DISTRACTION HARSHLY.

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  3. This will result in Mama bo Inonge to be the PF candidate or should we expect someone else to take over. Kaizer Zulu should also throw in his hat.

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  4. Pass the bation – Grand Mama Wina is only there because she helped Edgar get into State House, she comes from a family that doesnt think twice about double crossing anyone for their own selfish survival. You seriously think the Luapula chaps will sit by and let that happen!

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  5. If Edgar Lungu loved this country, he would put paid to this fruitless debate. Zambia has a threatening crisis and cannot afford this distraction. I thought the appointment of a new and young political advisor would help him up his game. I hv to admit that I was wrong, very wrong.

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  6. Article 106(3) should be read together with 106(5). This is what politician lawyers do not want. Why? Because they are politicians

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  7. The guy has failed miserably and he still wants to run for a third term!! What does he want to come and do in the next 5 years? Is he not ashamed of the damage his government has done to the economy to an extent that people are now even queuing for mealie meal like in UNIP days?

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  8. 5(b), the Vice-President or the President-elect shall serve for the unexpired term of office and be deemed, for the purposes of clause (3) –
    (a) to have served a full term as President if, at the date on which the President assumed office, more than three years remain before the date of the next general election; or
    (b) not to have served a term of office as President if, at the date on which the President assumed office, less than three years remain before the date of the

    Ba concourt solve this problem before 2021. Ba mwila how many Lawyers do you have?

  9. The Clauses in Article 106 cannot be isolated from each other in interpreting the Article. An interpretation of a constitutional provision that isolates the provisions touching on the same subject is faulty. Therefore, to state that Article 106(3) applies to the term that straddled two constitutional regimes but that Article 106 (6) does not, is to isolate Article 106 (3) from the rest of the provisions in Article 106 which is untenable at law, and is at variance with the tenets of constitutional interpretation, as all the provisions on the tenure of office of the President must be read together.

    The provision regarding the full term must be applied to defining what is meant by the twice held office under Article 106 (3) in the provisions of that Article.

  10. I urge the President not to be destracted by such meaningless debate, Ba kalanda ba kanaka Edgar for 2021 as per consttiution of Zambia. Those who cannot interpret the law its there problem. Come 2021 nomination papers will be given to ECZ and will be accepted because the nomination will be valid!!

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    • Zambian! Just a quick glance at your writing, anyone can tell that you are one of those uneducated (PF) no life, low life, no direction…Thinking that everything is under control with this garbage administration, how can you be this dull the country is messed up…take some time and look around I’m sorry to break it to you my friend your “ President” will not run for the third time. This is a repeat version of Chiluba…you think the people will just sit here and watch you fools break the constitution law? I don’t think so….that’s the fact of life embrace it..No 3rd term for the “RAT”

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  11. Sour grapes…kapangeni party yenu tata. Do not cheat youreslf that you are popular in PF bufi. Mukawelapofye na Zero. Fimo muleipima.

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  12. Me thinks lungu is ready to give up…..he is being pushed to continue for fear of jail for him and those around him.

    If lungu can be given a guarantee to enjoy his ill gotten wealth without harassment , lungu would gladly go.

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  13. This is what happens when you sign the Constitution into Law with eyes and ears closed… kikikiki
    It’s not that ECL doesn’t understand the correct interpretation of the Law. It’s a question of some habits dying hard. You can manipulate your way into things but time comes when you get caught in your own cobweb of lies! Let the Rule of Law reign!

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  14. You’re not eligible to talk about anything KBF. You were fired from the party. You’re dull

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  15. Sangwa, Bwalya and Haimbe are all fearing that President Lungu will again win. Why not allow him to stand and defeat him like RB if he has failed.

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  16. Without being too technical and bringing more confusion, let us simply discuss Lungu’s election in 2015 prior to the consitutional amendment of 2016. As per law then, he was elected in a by-election which saw him being sworn in as President. Period!
    The law was amended in 2016 to avoid by-elections since we had two of them. If the Lungu was to die now, Wina would take over as President without an election and her mandate will be to continue the term until 2021 in which case she would need to win an election to be considered President.
    Why are we ignoring the law prior to amendment? the 2016 amendment does not apply to Lungu!

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  17. Talking about this article and that which say that the person will be considered not to have held office if the term was less than three years is not applicable to Lungu! The question, in trying to make the lay person understand, is whether or not Lungu was rightly elected into the Presidency in 2015 and if so, then he has already being sworn in twice, as per both consitutional amendments.

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  18. What do you mean by some people ? It’s the constitutional courts that ruled that our president is eligible .if you feel you are man or woman enough to win elections why not form own party and stand against his excellency lungu? This is a clear sign that his excellency is a threat to opposition and power hungry chancers. Come 2021 I will show you what winning an election is. It will be by landslide.

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  19. Lungu is already 2021 president all of the bickering will not help anyone at all. It’s all rigged and the job is done
    Welcome to Zimbabwe

  20. This is a serious problem we have with African leaders. They think of themselves as saviours and all sorts of things. The gentleman is clearly not eligible stand but he is imposing himself. Shame on him and the entire pf leadership.

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  21. Oh…… ‘another’ pundit giving his take on what the concourt has already clarified. Is it opinion that’s a deciding factor?

    It’s like a contest to decide who is, Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest!

    But thankfully the Voters are exempt from this.

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    • The Concourt ruling will not work…in this matter all the judges were appointed by this “President “AKA the RAT…a well calculated move by the (PF) the only problem is that it won’t work for the current President…The Zambian people voted for him twice…it does not matter if he was president for 2 days we went to the polls. It’s a wishful thinking for this administration to think that the RAT will run for the 3rd time, the time is up…we told you…it will be over soon.

      What goes around comes around.

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  22. Truthfully we have a constitution that contradicts itself. One clause disqualifies lungu and another clause qualifies his to run for a third term. This confusion is what should have been in bill 10 so that such anomalies in the constitution are ironed out. Let lungu go contest and people will decide. There are more important issues to address than whether the lungu is eligible or not. In my opinion both those saying lungu can’t contest a d those saying he can contest are right as both groups have a basis of argument based in the constitution.

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  23. @ Patriot abroad, the court clearly refused to address the question of whether Lungu was eligible or not! Hence this debate, if they had said he could stand, it would be a different story now.
    However, I opine, and rather strongly at that, that the PF should field Lungu.
    If you are not dragged to court and he is disqualified, then you have an election that is strongly against PF under Lungu.

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  24. I think , as a layman , I understand what spiderly existence has explained above. Basically the arguments about what constitutes a full term are not applicable or even relevant to President Lungu’s first term because that period in question is pre
    amendment and therefore does not fall under the clauses under discussion , which only became operative as s result of the 2016 amendment. So for purposes of legal interpretation I would understand that lungus election in the 2015 by election is to be deemed a full term .

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  25. Well done Mr. Fube. We have to call a spade a spade. If ECL is allowed to stand as President next year and then wins the elections, it means that he will have served as President for 12 years. How will he account for the extra 2 years?

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  26. My take on the subject!! I think this might be very helpful.

    Point No. 1. It is Mr. Lungu’s constitutional right to hold the office of the president for a period of 10years, Anything less than this will be infriging on his right that is provided for by the Zambian Constitution.
    Point No. 2. Whenever the court is called upon to adjudicate on a matter, It will ensure that the constitutional right of the person(s) are protected,
    Point No. 3, The court has the power to give a meaning to a clause in a statue or constitution i.e, that is the basis of case law.
    Mr. Lungu is eligible to to contest 2021 elections based on the three points above,
    Though the ruling has now set preceedent, which binds judges to take this same view on deciding future cases of similar facts as Mr. Lungu.s,

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  27. What did the constitution say prior to the amended 2016 constitution about a presidential term? According to that constitution at that time lungu served a full presidential term when he was elected in Jan 2015 and sworn in as president. The current constitution does not apply for lungu because he was elected and became president in accordance with the constitution before 2016 for his first term. His second term is under the amended 2016 constitution. The current constitution only applies to other coming presidents after lungu in terms of term of office and not for lungu. People will now ask what title lungu held or what he was sworn in as in 2015 according to the constitution we had at that time.

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  28. THE Con Court has not ruled on the eligibility of President Lungu to stand in 2021 general elections. Those calling on president Lungu to stand in 2021 are either cheating him or lazy to read the import expressed by the Con Court ruling on the case brought by Daniel Pule and others. If the Con Court had ruled president Lungu’s eligibility for 2021 elections, Zambians would not be debating this matter as we are. The Con Court is aware that president Lungu himself is a lawyer and that the current republican constitution is barred to the incumbent to be nominated as a presidential aspiring candidate.
    Its for this reason that Constitutional lawyer Kelvin Fube Bwalya and other lawyers in reminding Zambians of the demands and warnings in upholding the republican constitution law. To this…

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  29. To this president Lungu is alive and should adhere to it than listen to the unschooled lieutenants in his party driving the agenda of third term in PF government.

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  30. “President Lungu is not eligible to stand for elections in 2021”. Partly correct. Lungu is not eligible and unfit to run for any public office. He mismanaged his law practise by defrauding a widow—yes a widow –of her compensation. (This is public knowledge for which LAZ deregistered him. See case #cause no. 2010/CRMP/688 6th August 2010). He is sufficiently unfit and ineligible to superitend even a pigsty!,

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  31. Rowdy! You must be overseas my friend…we don’t want your President any where near the ballot papers he is so corrupt calculative and manipulative. You are right the constitution is quite contradicting..but at the same time we are using the constitution that was used when he was elected which does not allow him to run…this happens all the time in Africa…politicians steal the resources of the country, now they look for ways to stay in the government to avoid investigations..He will not run for the 3rd time…period.

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  32. The Zambian law says if you have held office twice and elected twice, you are not eligible for a third time, period.

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  33. It’s like having two yellow cards in one match but refusing to be chucked out claiming that the first card in the first half where I came in as a substitute doesn’t count because I didn’t play full time. Stupid.

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  34. @Mukayi!
    Your first point is wrong! One could constitutionally be President for 6 years and then be bared from standing from any other election! Consider the article that’s been quoted above about the term not being less than 3 years.
    Technically, anyone could win an election, and quit before the Presidency before 3 years and stand again! In that case, 6 years is enough!
    Point no 2! The constitutional Court does not decide matters on an individual person’s basis, go to the high Court if you want your name in a judgement!
    This is why the court declined to comment on Lungu’s eligible as a person.
    Point 3! Everyone knows what powers the court has, and that issue is neither here no there.

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  35. The judgment from concourt has a catch. Even if thy did not say whether president Lungu is eligible or not, in the judgment they clearly stated that the 2015 -2016 can not be said that someone held office. And who was president that period? ECL. Lastly to the thought that 2015 to 2016 was a full term, law is not applied retrospectively hence the assumption that the entire presidency of ECL is deemed as under the current constitution because you can not apply both a repealed law and a new law to establish a judgment. Those saying unless he was vice president. The current law also says or elected president if its less than 3 years then its not term.

  36. Since law is not applied retrospectively, it is assumed that ECL ascended to presidency under the current constitution including his election in 2015. To me the best the opposition can do is to raise issues that would make voters not vote for PF.
    How well will they rule better than PF?
    Other than this eligibility issue why should voters not vote for PF? Also the fact that majority of voters are in rural areas they don’t even understand what eligibility means. To the contrary PF is enjoying this because UPND and Civil societies are losing time on this issue.

  37. Another lawyer challenging a ConCourt ruling. Comfort yourself and your followers. But when we vote for ECL next year, don’t make noise because this time we are prepared for your nonsense.

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  38. At Ak, for fudge’s sake! Please don’t be a dildo. What the fudge do you mean Lungu ascended to the Presidency in 2015 using the 2016 Constitution!
    What in the dildoberry?
    How could he ascend to the Presidency using a law that did not exist then?
    If your point was to be validated (which is impossible), they why did we go for a by-election as per 1996 constitution (2015 election was a s a result of that constitution) as opposed to Vice President Scott taking over the Presidency without a by-election?
    Please learn to think!
    Fudging hell.

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  39. Good for lungu , why did he not let Scott continue from VP as acting president and prepare for the coming elections 2 years away ??? ??

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  40. Unfortunately, the ConCourt irregularly and unconstitutionally clothed Lungu with 2021 eligibility. So, if anyone challenges his nomination filing, it will be deemed as res-judicata.

    I blame abena Sangwa for being too technical before an ill-qualified bench. If I was Sangwa, I would have framed the question as, “if a president has held office twice and has been elected twice, would he/she be eligible to contest another election?”

    Also, Sangwa SC became emotional after the fact. You don’t go on insulting the bench publicly. I don’t think Sangwa can win a case in this court no matter how meritorious the case is, brilliant as he is because it is now personal. That’s why when you’re emotional you never win cases.

    There are no absolutes with legal decisions, and behavior of…

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    • Sangwa did not insult anyone on the bench. If you are Grade 7 like Mwila and you are reminded of the fact while doing a Grade 12 job how does that constitute an insult? Facts, bane, are faceless and just. The judges have not dared push back because he stated what is true.

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  41. Sometimes you wonder why people want to complicate issues unnecessarily. One thing I know, if a Lawyer gives an opinion on an issue, LOOK TWICE before taking their word as gospel truth. These guys are capable of ARGUING THE SAME ISSUE ON THE SIDES. But KBF’s argumentation here are totally misleading and wrong. In fact, those of us who think Pres Lunga is eligible to run again in 2021 have the Constitutional Court’s already delivered to rely on…..and not Lawyers opinions!

    Now let us look at the Constitution itself: (Article 106: Tenure of office of President and vacancy)

    1. The term of office for a President is five years which shall run concurrently with the term of Parliament, except that the term of office of President shall expire when the President-elect assumes office in…

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    accordance with Article 105.

    **** OK, take note that here the word TERM is defined as a period of 5 years. You should also pay attention to the fact that the phrase “FULL TERM” is not used. Was this a mistake or it was deliberate? Well, my personal opinion is that it was intentionally not used. For reasons that become clear later on in the Article.

    2. A President shall hold office from the date the President-elect is sworn into office and ending on the date the next President-elect is sworn into office.

    **** No arguments here. The Clause is self-explanatory.

    3. A person who has twice held office as President is not eligible for election as President.

    ***** This is the Clause that seem to cause a lot of confusion. But I think it shouldn’t. First of all,…

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    we need to recognize that this Clause DOES NOT say “A person who has twice BEEN ‘ELECTED’ (like KBF is insinuating) TO OFFICE AS PRESIDENT is not eligible for election as President. No! In my humble opinion, “THE TWICE HELD OFFICE AS PRESIDENT” was, for all intents and purposes, referring to an individual who has served as President for 2 TERMS (in accordance to how the word TERM is defined in this Article.) Concluding that this meant something else is really STRETCHING INTENTION AND COMMON SENSE!

    ****However, if this is not clear and confusing, these are the LACUNAS the current Constitutional Review/Ammendment process should be taking care of…..AND NOT TRYING TO BRING BACK THE NONSENSE OF DEPUTY MINISTERS!

    4. The office of President becomes vacant if the…

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    President—
    a. dies;
    b. resigns by notice in writing to the Speaker of the National Assembly; or
    c. otherwise ceases to hold office under Article 81,107 or 108.

    ****Again, no complications here.

    5. When a vacancy occurs in the office of President, except under Article 81—

    a. the Vice-President shall immediately assume the office of President; or

    ***** Now, this is the Clause that enabled Pres. Rupiah Bwezani Banda to assume the office of President and qualified to stand in the subsequent election to finish off Mwanawasa’s term. The reason being that there were no OTHER REASONS which disqualified him from standing the election. Unlike Vice Pres. Guy Scott who could only act as CARETAKER PRESIDENT and could not stand in the…

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    General Presidential election due to “OTHER REASONS” (the PARENTAGE Clauses: in Articles 35(1) and 100) which DISQUALIFIED him.

    ****Here, I think, a mistake was made. In my opinion, the The Speaker of the National Assembly should have taken the caretaker position instead of Vice Pres. Scott. And if you remember there were some confusion even in the PF/country at the time as to who was the rightful person to act as President. Unfortunately, Edgar Lunga could not defend his position because the Constitution was ambiguous at the time. And he voluntarily got out of the way for Vice Scott to takeover. And this was one of the main reasons why people demanded we have the position of RUNNING MATE provided for in the Constitution so that this confusion does not happen ever…

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    again. Before then Vice President and President were not elected as a TICKET….with the Vice on the ticket having all the qualifications as the candidate for the presidency so they can automatically assume office in case of a vacancy at the top and avoid the Guy Scott conundrum.

    b. if the Vice-President is unable for a reason to assume the office of President, the Speaker shall
    perform the executive functions, except the power to—

    i. make an appointment;
    ii. or dissolve the National Assembly;

    and a presidential election shall be held within sixty days after the occurrence of the vacancy.

    ***** As stated above, elections were held within 60 days after Pres. Sata died, just like when Mwanawasa…

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    died. The only difference this time is that Vice Pres. Scott was Constitutionally disqualified from running in the election as Presidential candidate due to OTHER DISQUALIFYING REASONS (in Articles 35(1) and Article 100). Which was not the case with Vice Pres. Rupiah Banda.

    **** Quite frankly, I think even Sata (or at atleast his aides) was aware of this fact and most likely is the reason why he appointed someone other than Vice Scott to ACT AS PRESIDENT everytime he took a trip out of the country. Even on his last trip (when he died abroad) he left the current President, Edgar Lungu (then Defence Minister), as ACTING.

    6. If the Vice-President assumes the office of President, in accordance with clause (5)(a), or a person is elected to the office of President as a…

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    result of an election held in accordance with clause 5(b), the Vice-President or the President-elect shall serve for the unexpired term of office and be deemed, for the purposes of clause (3)—

    **** Now, let us careful and observant at the same time here. You notice that this Article uses both VICE PRESIDENT or PRESIDENT-ELECT, was this a mistake or deliberate? My opinion is that this was intentionally done. I say so because an individual can become President (in the unfortunate situation that the Office of President becomes vacant) either by virtue of being the Vice President at the time, or by being elected to the Office in case for some reason the Vice President is unable to assume Office. Or during the time we had no RUNNING MATE requirement in the Constitution,…

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    the President-elect (which Pres. Lungu was in the 2015 election, and Pres. Banda in 2011) is also provided for.

    a. to have served a full term as President if, at the date on which the President assumed office, at least three years remain before the date of the next general election; or

    ***** Now, if you remember I stated in the beginning that Article 106 does not use FULL TERM to describe the 5-year term of office. This is the reason why! FULL TERM, as far as the Zambian Constitution is concerned, is serving THREE YEARS or MORE in Office as President. Anything LESS THAN 3 YEARS can NOT be considered a FULL TERM to count towards someone’s terms in office.

    **** This alone should make this debate mute. And the ConCourt has said as much!

    b. not to have served…

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    a term of office as President if, at the date on which the President assumed office, less than three years remain before the date of the next general election.

    **** If 106(6)(a) is not clear to anybody, this one leaves no doubt whatsoever! Unless you just love to confuse yourself for no reason at all, you can not argue in good faith that this clause means something else.

    **** QUOTE: “…the Vice-President or the President-elect shall serve for the unexpired term of office and be deemed, for the purposes of clause (3)—….NOT TO HAVE SERVED A “TERM” (3 years or more) OF OFFICE AS PRESIDENT IF, AT THE DATE ON WHICH THE PRESIDENT ASSUMED OFFICE, LESS THAN THREE YEARS REMAIN BEFORE THE DATE OF THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION. ”

    **** Anyone who says anything else…

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    is simply giving their opinion. Which is allowed in a Democracy, but they are definitely WRONG!

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  52. Bwalya is just a con.

    Yes POTROZ ECL will be on the ballot in 2021; next item please!

    “Coffee, coffee!”

  53. Yamba yamba, that’s a mouthful and changes nothing! Lungu served in two constitutional dispensions and neither should be set aside. Lungu will never qualify for a 3rd term.

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  54. @spider your sentiments are now personal attacks on me. Why can’t you debate without insulting. Infact its you who is not thinking. Challenge me on law being applied retrospectively please. Am I wrong or right. Do you also find it difficult to appreciate that the opposition needs to reach out to the electorate than wasting time on this eligibility issue? If you hate ECL to the extent that you can’t see that by the concourt judgment saying 2015 to 2016 can not be considered someone served a presidential term, there’s nothing I can do.

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  55. Ok I can see the panic in the opposition ECL is winning 2021..that is why they are trying anything.. even good lawyers are turned into embacel .. sorry sangwa.. you have lost my respect… A lion doesn’t concern itself with the opinion from the sheep

  56. @TOWN HOUSE, That’s the problem with us Zambians, anything longer than a paragraph is mouthful and we can not read or follow. We want everything in a form of a “sound bite”, even the discussion on the Constitution. What is so mouthful by quoting the ACTUAL Constitutional Article in question and apply a few commentaries to it? I am pretty sure you didn’t even attempt to read or follow my comments, typical Zambian laziness when it comes to reading!

  57. By the way @TOWN MOUSE, you say Edgar Lungu served in two Constitutional dispensations yet you have not shown the contradictions between the two and how, if any, those contradictions where delt with ior not n current Constitution. That would be helpful to the discussion than a throwing “hail mary” hoping it will work. Even KBF here simply says that President Lungu “needs to respect clauses of the law which he assented to.” Yet he makes no effort whatsoever which clauses of the Constitution is referring to and how those Clauses barrs him from standing again. And he is supposedly a Lawyer. Give me a freaking break!

  58. @ Yambayamba you have brought out tow issues which is interesting. The full term definition and the the ‘ having been elected twice vs having served two terms’. I hope we can now all see that the being elected twice applied to the old constitution whilst the current constitution talks about having served two terms and a term is only qualified a term if its atleast 3 years. Very clear Yambayamba. My humble advice is its possible an opposition can win 2021 elections especially UPND but their members are so focus to attack anyone who gives an opinion that appears to favour PF. UPND should learn that in a democracy majority of voters are not cadres and anyone who convinces them takes the presidency that’s what MMD did in 1991 and PF in 2011. Any its democracy and freedom of expression.

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  59. Two terms or not the failure needs gone out of state house for the good of Zambia. Enough already…

  60. Is legal training so mediocre in Zambia that the so called lawyers cannot understand that judge-made law cannot be overturned by the man on the Clapham omnibus? Fube of all should know this!!!

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