Thursday, December 19, 2024

Sata should follow pact grievance procedure — HH

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United Party for National Development (UPND) president Hakainde Hichilema has advised Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata to follow procedure in airing his grievances against UPND youth chairperson Joe Kalusa.

Mr Hichilema said his party would not take disciplinary action against Mr Kalusa because there had been no formal representation from Mr Sata spelling out that he had misconducted himself.

The UPND leader said the pact had a system of airing its grievances and said if Mr Sata had used the right channels UPND would have considered his complaint against Mr Kalusa.

Mr Hichilema was speaking at a media briefing in Lusaka yesterday.

Mr Sata told a QFM Radio programme that he had been hurt by Mr Kalusa’s conduct lately who had even gone to the extent of giving him ultimatums in the media apart from attacking him publicly but UPND had not taken disciplinary action against him.

Mr Hichilema said he did not sit on the disciplinary committee which he said was chaired by the national chairperson and that is why it was important that Mr Sata put his demand in writing.

He admitted that his party lacks the political support to lead it to victory in next year’s presidential election, which was the reason it was insisting on keeping the pact alive with the Patriotic Front (PF).

He said there existed statistics from the 2001, 2006, and 2008 presidential election results that showed that UPND could not go anywhere without a pact.

Mr Hichilema said he was disappointed by senior leaders of UPND and other individuals who had been attempting to convince him to contest the elections outside the pact and called them liars because he did not have the capacity to win the election.

“Please stop coming to cheat me that I can win an election alone because statistics are there for 2001 up to 2008 to show that I cannot win. I hope other politicians can see things that way. I cannot win mwilabepa ubufi (Bemba for don’t tell lies),” Mr Hichilema said.

He said it was clear that the combined votes by the opposition were always higher than the ruling party.

“So please don’t come to me again and say Hakainde you can win alone. You are lying to me and I know that I cannot win,” Mr Hichilema said.
[ Times of Zambia ]

94 COMMENTS

  1. If Dada Idi Amin had procedures Sata will follow produres. Otherwise uneducated dictators don’t have proceduresor protocol to follow. learn from the way he has has been single handedly firing and hiring MCC before and during the aftermath of the GBM debacle.

  2. Mwamba’s (GBM) case exposes Sata’s dictatorial leadership (Thanks you patriot)

    PATRIOTIC (PF) strongman Michael Sata was trying to play smart when he suspended Kasama Central Member of Parliament (MP) Geoffrey Bwalya Mwamba from his party position last week.
    In reaction to the unilateral decision to suspend him, Mr Mwamba tendered a short-lived resignation from politics, threatening to end an 11-month stay in Parliament.

  3. As in most of his actions, by suspending Mr Mwamba, Mr Sata had hoped to make political capital and portray himself as a no-nonsense leader who did not condone any transgression.
    Because of the dishonest and hasty manner in which the suspension was made, it did not take long before Mr Sata’s real character was exposed.

  4. Single-handed Suspensions
    Through his action, Mr Sata failed to achieve his intended objective and, instead, laid himself bare as a desperate dictator who would, single-handedly suspend a senior member of the party without calling for a disciplinary or central committee meeting.
    If Mr Sata is going to be the one suspending party members, where then do the aggrieved parties seek recourse if not satisfied with the punishment meted out on them?

  5. Democracy is certainly not Mr Sata’s cup of tea.
    Contrast this with President Rupiah Banda who, despite the uncharitable remarks directed at him by George Mpombo and Ng’andu Magande for close to two years, chose not to interfere and allowed the due process of the MMD constitution to determine the duo’s continued stay in the party.
    No matter how heinous the offence that Mr Mwamba may have committed, he was entitled to civilised treatment in accordance with the party constitution, if the PF has any, and no individual decisions should have been entertained.

  6. Little wonder Mr Mwamba fleetingly threw in the towel, threatening to force the second Kasama Central by-election in less than a year.
    By no means would Mr Mwamba’s resignation absolve him from the public shame that has come his way after performing John Cena’s sport on his wife, Chama, following a marital row.
    But neither does Mr Sata have any right to take it upon himself to start issuing suspension letters as if he were running a personal farm.

  7. Mr Sata’s high-handed action, meant to create an impression that he brooks no indiscipline, is just as horrendous as Mr Mwamba’s instant justice on his wife.
    Why didn’t Sata suspend Mushili?
    If Mr Sata wants Zambian people to believe that he is a disciplinarian, here is food for thought.
    Zambian people still remember that not long before Mr Mwamba committed domestic violence on a defenceless wife, another senior PF member and Ndola Central MP, Mark Mushili, had been convicted for attempting to defraud the Zambian Government of billions of Kwacha.

  8. Did Mr Sata discipline Mr Mushili for committing an offence that would have deprived Zambian people of resources for drugs in hospitals and desks for schools?
    He did not. In Mr Mwamba’s case, Mr Sata rushed to take action as a way of trying to show that he was in charge, albeit in a horribly wrong way.
    There must be some undercurrent suggesting that the relationship between Mr Sata and Mr Mwamba is not that warm.

  9. Following Mr Mwamba’s short-lived resignation, Mr Sata went on to issue a statement that leaders should live by example and that the PF central committee would in future have to be more careful when scrutinizing would-be parliamentary candidates.
    Further taking a jibe at Mr Mwamba’s financial muscle and physical build, Mr Sata was quoted by The Post as saying: “It doesn’t matter how much money you have. It doesn’t matter how nourished you are” political parties always pleaded with the poor people for votes.

  10. Mr Sata has a long history of teasing people for their physical appearance. Is this not moral bankruptcy?
    Yet, this is the man who fashions himself as a possible president of the independent Republic of Zambia!
    Mr Sata’s commandist leadership style is the reason most right-thinking members of the PF have distanced themselves from the personal decisions that have only served to attract rejects to the party, all in the name of “politics is a game of numbers” despite some of the numbers being political garbage.

  11. Take, for instance, the decision that Mr Sata took to stop his MPs from sitting on the National Constitution Conference when it was constituted by the late president Levy Mwanawasa.
    Selfish political interest
    In a vainglorious quest to advance selfish political interests, Mr Sata differed with the level-headed members of the PF who had argued that enacting a national Constitution was a call to patriotic national duty and they would, therefore, serve on the NCC.

  12. That well-thought decision to serve the Zambian people is what marked the estrangement between Mr Sata and close to 20 intellectually-balanced MPs like Peter Machungwa, Reverend Violet Sampa-Bredt, Ernest Mwansa, Joseph Kasongo, Elizabeth Chitika-Molobeka and Faustina Sinyangwe.
    The only conclusion one can draw from Mr Sata’s problems with the independent-minded PF MPs is that the former colonial police constable enjoys being surrounded by sycophants who do not question his comical decisions.

  13. When time came for the NCC delegates to vote on whether a Republican president should be elected by simple majority or by a 50+1 method, Mr Sata awoke from his slumber to lobby the same delegates to adopt the latter.
    That time, Mr Sata must have regretted the day he differed with his MPs who had decided to sit on the NCC.
    He could not lobby them because he had been calling them names for choosing to do what they felt was national duty.

  14. Mr Sata’s decision on the NCC may be likened to the one that was taken by Dr Kenneth Kaunda when he led his party UNIP on a boycott of the 1996 general elections after the national Constitution was tinkered with to bar him from contesting the presidency on account of his having already served two presidential terms.
    That suicidal decision marked the beginning of the end of UNIP, the party that had ruled Zambia for 27 years until the 1991 elections that ushered in Frederick Chiluba and the MMD.

  15. UNIP has never been the same since that political faux pas that decimated the party’s representation in Parliament and all but returned Zambia to the one-party State epoch.
    These are the invariable catastrophic consequences that emerge when the self supersedes greater collective interest.
    For Mr Sata, divergence of opinion is anathema, and his life philosophy may easily be interpreted as “if you are not with me, you are against me.”

  16. It is, thus, not surprising that PF’s electoral accord with the UPND has been thrown into a state of confusion.
    It is nothing but a question of dubious political attributes, for how do people who mean well for the country fail to resolve a small matter of who to lead the two parties into the 2011 general elections?
    If UPND’s Hakainde Hichilema thought that those who had advised him against going to political bed with Mr Sata were ill-willed people, he must have realised by now that shifting a snake from one hole into another does not turn it into a worm.

  17. A cobra will always be a cobra!
    It spits on any object it perceives to be a danger to its existence, and there are many victims to testify against the venomous “King Cobra”.
    Edwin Lifwekelo, Edward Mumbi, and Charles Chimumbwa have all served as PF secretaries-general during the party’s nine years of existence and have very interesting tales about their working relationship with Mr Sata.
    Even Guy Scott, the current unelected PF vice-president, was once secretary-general until Mr Sata elevated him.

  18. Since the PF was founded in 2001, it has never held a convention, and that is why Mr Sata is today one of the longest-serving unelected presidents of a political party.
    Again, whether the PF miraculously goes to a convention before the 2011 general elections will have to be Mr Sata’s decision and not that of the political party.
    Democracy at its worst, this may be described, and it is rather ironical that Mr Sata has to be the one accusing President Banda of being stubbornly undemocratic.

  19. In the MMD, the party leadership has insisted that before going for the 2011 elections, a convention will be held for the office bearers to seek a fresh mandate.
    Today, the PF is courting Mr Mpombo, whom the MMD has just expelled, hoping that the party can use him to discredit the ruling party.
    If Mr Mpombo does join the PF, he will be teaming up with a party that does not want to hear of anyone mentioning a party convention. It is taboo to talk about it.

  20. In the MMD, at least Mr Mpombo enjoyed so much latitude that he could even use unpalatable language against President Banda in order to force an early convention where he thought he could stand as presidential candidate.

    In the PF, no such talk.

    PF life president

    It is like the 73-year-old Mr Sata is the PF’s life president, which even raises more concerns on whether the party’s constitution was not just authored by the unchallengeable political comedian.

  21. It’s difficult to understand the excitement by MMD & PF cadres on this blog who think HH has capitulated to Sata or that UPND is finished! HH has made it clear that a divided opposition can not win elections in Zambia, period. Corrupt African leaders do not give up power easily and it is their wish to see a divided opposition to enable than exploit the situation and win. It appears to me that PF is secretly hoping for UPND to go it alone hoping that UPND will weaken the MMD support base and enable them(PF) win if they maintain their previous support base. This is clear wishful thinking by PF because MMD controls the instrument of power and can change the constitution to the 50% plus system if they suspect this. MMD know that the majority UPND supporters will not support Sata in a run…

  22. Here is a party that seemingly has no guidelines on how to fill vacancies, leaving everything to Mr Sata’s whims.
    It is Mr Sata who appoints himself, appoints a vice-president, appoints a national chairperson, appoints a secretary-general and appoints members of the central committee, the UNIP style.
    This is absolute failure of leadership.
    Need someone not remind Mr Sata that the world has moved on?

  23. Even the behaviour of some of Mr Sata’s MPs who resign at will and rescind their decisions the next hour, appear before court after court denying paternity of their children, and batter their wives mercilessly, are all a reflection of Mr Sata’s failure to lead.
    Even though politics is about numbers, there must be a way of regulating those numbers.
    Leaders must lead by example and show that they can be responsible parents.
    Whether Mr Sata and his men have lived true to this is anyone’s guess.

  24. Following Sata’s footsteps
    Remember the questions that Dr Chiluba raised not too long ago on Mr Sata’s life outside his matrimonial home?
    Is it any wonder that Mr Sata’s lieutenants are following his footsteps?
    However, there are some exceptions in the PF and one of these is Dr Chileshe Mulenga, the PF deputy-secretary-general who has decided to part with Mr Sata’s undemocratic practices.
    Mr Sata had sought to appoint Dr Mulenga as chairperson of the PF’s research bureau, whatever the party researches on.

  25. If the party cared enough, it would be researching on acceptable democratic tenets. But it appears that it is Mr Sata who even appoints which material is to be researched on.
    One cannot, therefore, blame Dr Mulenga for choosing to ditch Sata’s PF which does not inspire hope but thrives on hoodwinking naïve minds.
    “My resignation is a matter of principle, because upholding the constitution of any club, let alone a political party in any country, is a principle that cannot be compromised,” wrote Dr Mulenga in his resignation letter dated September 4, 2010.

  26. Ordaining misrule
    If the culture of appointments in the PF is backed by the party constitution, any Zambians entertaining thoughts of putting their votes on the PF must re-think their position.
    Everything the PF has been doing is a reflection of how it would handle State affairs if voted into power.
    Dr Mulenga does not condone Mr Sata’s wanton violation of the PF constitution.

  27. “Once the constitution is compromised, dictatorship and misrule are ordained. I cannot, therefore, remain in an organisation in which it is okay to dissolve duly elected constituency committees just for the sake of making greedy political opportunists comfortable,” said Dr Mulenga who joined the PF in 2004.
    If anyone has been wondering why the PF-UPND relationship is failing to hold, and who the cause of the problems is, at least this provides a clue.

  28. @ Mwata
    is there anything else you do besides blogging? You should be a verry bitter MMD cadre, I wonder what Sata did to you.

  29. Today I am giving you a pat on the back Mwata, keep it up! People need to know more about this Serpent before it hoodwinks our innocent people.

  30. Ms Lubinda,

    Thanks for asking. You will be amuzed to hear that education, on demand skills, and self disciple have been paying me probably more money an hour than what you may be making in 2 days work.Please don’t get discouraged with life because its God that gives prosperity to others.

  31. Yaba Mwata again. If its not him then Veteran and if not Veteran, Senior Citizen. Guys imwe is this your father’s website???

  32. This is the same story reported by QFM yesterday, by a Times vuvuzela version. It’s clear that the MMD propaganda machinery is trying to create an impression that UPND has surrendered to PF. Far from it, the fact that HH is telling Sata to follow procedures is an indication that he is steeling himself for a fight. He is pointing out that UPND is a well organized party with proper systems and grievance structures unlike the one man show PF system. That is why Mwata’s postings above make interesting reading if one needs to understand Sata.
    For you who think HH is finishing UPND you have got it wrong. These guys are smart and they know what they are doing. UPND has proper structures with eminent intellectuals brain storming every strategy they adopt.

  33. As much as HH may be right in what he is saying, it is not advisable to discredit your own party members in public. Am sure some of the pipo advising him to go it alone were concerned about the partys relationship with PF coz it looks as though PF does not respect HHand UPND. Do not wash your dirty linen in public, this exposure will give the MMD and PF ammunition to finish off UPND. Are Joe Kalusa and HH the only people that speak for UPND??

  34. Mwata is PF but attending the NCC. To start any thing including a political party, you need one person. PF was started by Sata and at an oppotune time it will be like MMD. At the moment sata has a certain vision as MMD dangles a carrot to those people who want to join sata like Machungwa, Dr Mulenga and others. It is not easy in a poverty stricken community like ours to simply trust people like that. some may not be sharing the vision with you but trying to get rich. I believe some how that is why Sata has taken things personal. With commited people, systems will be in place soon

  35. #3 Mwata- I listened to President HH’s speech on Radio Phoenix and there is no where he attacked Sata. What he said was that the Opposition must avoid divisions if they are to bring meaniful development to we the Zambians. This story is a concotion of your toilet paper called Times of which? Zambia?

  36. I commend HH for taking stock of the past performance of UPND in the general elections. He has also taken into consideration the birth of ADD and the yet to be born Magande party and he has realised that SP and WP are going to be tricky for him. I hope the bickering in the pact will stop so that they move forward.

  37. I am sick and tired of reading one person’s opinion. Is Mwata the only guy we should all listen to? We need different opinions on issues.

  38. Ba Mwansa,

    Do you ever receive invitations to read his blogs or patronize LT? Ever considered starting your own blog run on your terms?

  39. How come HH is only talking about disciplining Kalusa and yet ignores the likes of G.Scott who have been deliberately undermining the pact whereas Kalusa was only making a suggestion as to how to move the pact forward?

  40. No. 50: the best you can do is to scroll through and ignore any posting you don’t like. The purpose of this blog is to allow people to express their views freely. You might find some opinions disgusting but everyone is entitled their opinion. You just have to find ways to counter their opinion. We believe in freedom of expression.

  41. HH has gone for an early shower? So if Sata goes it alone will HH retired from politics….? My dear you will remember what Shaka told you before he joined his Uncle in the MMD and whilst you have been ‘losing’ money, spending nights in areas to campaign he has bought his third parliamentary car…2011 you will be hammered and sent into political oblivion…..Maybe if you surrender and join MMD you might be made Minister..do a Hilary Clintoni

  42. Mwata
    when rupiah fired chibombamilimo and shikafwisa did he follow proper channels within the mmd or he did it just like idi amin? You speak a lot you people and yet all is poor prpaganda.It is not proper for someone to beat a woman. Sata did a wonderful job to fire GbM.

  43. Mwata.
    iwe don’t play partisan politics on this website you are becoming monotonous.Leave the PF leader alone to provide leadership in his party.waumfe enough is enough.

  44. HH is very sincere individual that is why he is successful in business and in life. WHY pretend! Take the bull by its horns. He knows he cant win and so are some of the micky mouse parties. Let all these small parties come together and defeat the corrupt MMD. Let PF go it alone if they want

  45. HH is right. Upnd will be popular once in power with PF. And if they break up that will be the end of upnd. Nowthis guy from western province called milupi sholud join the pact otherwise he is heading nowhere. Yes he can win western provincebut not entire Zambia . Patalisana mudala. Join the pact mudala and be in power.

  46. At this late stage, HH should not have to convince UPND members of the need to form a pact with PF. This to me shows that there is a big problem with his grass roots. Whatever happens, votes will be lost if he stays with Sata. What he will have to do is estimate the number of votes he is likely to lose and whether the remaining votes will be enough to propel Sata into state house. Then he will have to hope and pray that Sata will make him vice and leave state house in 2016. He will then have to hope and pray that the electorate in 2016 will vote for a second term for a govt that has been headed by Sata and that the opposition in 2016 will not be strong if he is ever going to be president. Seems like a long shot to me.

  47. Intelligent guy. He is in touch with reality. By the way even the PF cannot win the election on their own and unfortunately of late Sata, Scott and Kabimba are cheating themselves by that they can win alone. Westerners, Southerners, Northwesterners and people from the Central Province are naturally not keen with having a bemba president. With Sata as presidential candidate it even makes things worse and most of the vote from these provinces would be split if the pact failed. The best is to maintain the pact, invite Milupi, Mpombo, Shakas, Magande to join. Then we can have a landslide victory. The biggest problem is greed. Already the PF is counting jobs for their friends and think with the pact there would be not enough jobs. Share in order to win.

  48. Mwata, the bells are ringing for exit door for MMD and it is hugh time you start preparing for your return to Zambia. The pact is here to stay and if you are saying the end is near you are mistaken. HH and Sata are clever and miles away from MMD hired people like Kalusa. Yesterday I said on this blog that Kalusa does not Know what is happening in the Pact because he is a hired loose Cannon who has found being on a payroll by MMD is sweeter. No wonder he came to insult Sata when Mr Kakoma and Mr Lubinda had had earier agreed to share the by elections seats. PF- Mpulungu and UPND -Chilanga. His outbursts are not of a leader. HH and Sata understand each other and they are always on talking. It is only few individuals who feel using Times of Zambia a toilet paper will help their paymaster

  49. Most of you on you don’t seem to realize that HH is a shrewd businessman who understands deals and can not go into any arrangement with Sata that will disadvantage him. He has done a proper SWOT analysis and he has listened to political and legal consultants within his time. For the man to have been a managing director for more than 20 top corporations including the likes of Barclays & Price Water-house is not a joke. He has amongst his top advisers the likes of Professor Chirwa, Professor Hansungule, Professor Beyani, top lawyers like Jack Mwimbwe and he has access to the likes of VJ for political advise. He leads a party that follows systems and procedures and has only had one rebel MP from the time he took over leadership of the party leadership. Give credit to the man.

  50. I like “Mr Hichilema said his party would not take disciplinary action against Mr Kalusa because there had been no formal representation from Mr Sata spelling out that he had misconducted himself” which is a clear message to Mr PF/Sata MC that HH means business about the PACT and how the mighty UPND Team is handling itself in the PACT.

    On another note, I hope HH will continue using junior UPND members to teach Mr PF/Sata MC and the PF leadership some manners.

    Have a blessed day all.
    _
    Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.

  51. HH that is a sign of maturity. You have indeed stated a fact, however shallow minded people cannot read between the lines that what HH is saying actually is warning to PF. PF as well cannot win an election on their own. HH has the bigger picture in mind of liberating Zambia from this bunch of self individuals called MMD. Surely HH has nothing to loose and if he was looking at personal interest, he would have easily opted out of the pact because of the insults he been receiving from the PF. To me he is above board and a real gentleman. The sooner we begin to appreciate such selfless people the better for our own selves and our children.

  52. On ““Please stop coming to cheat me that I can win an election alone because statistics are there for 2001 up to 2008 to show that I cannot win. I hope other politicians can see things that way. I cannot win mwilabepa ubufi (Bemba for don’t tell lies),” Mr [H] Hichilema said” Bemba-speaker and UPND 2011 presidential candidate HH is being realistic here but HH knows that he will have to go it alone if PF does not follow the PF-UPND MOU and the upcoming new guidelines of choosing election candidates.

    To the dul characters on here, what HH is doing is to join the Bemba Speakers and change things from within their ranks — great move!

    Have a blessed day all.
    _
    Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto…

  53. HH is going it by the book.i think this guy can be trusted because he respects what is in black and white.his style differs with the other guy who jst wakes up,reads what the post writes and acts.

  54. Mwata,

    Why don’t you write a book about Sata and dictatorship. Am sure you will do better than Chanda Chimba III on his “stand up for Zambia”

  55. I thought Northerners were united,what is that am hearing that the Namwangas and bembas are up in arms.PF should watch out for these agrieved Namwangas, than concentrating on th young Kalusa.

  56. Hehehe, does Pact even have grievance procedures? I thought that was a major wekaness of the so called Pact! If there was a procedure, why didn’t HH approach Sata to discuss “the misunderstanding” or vice versa rather than the two going to the media? They prefer to talk to us the public and not to each other because they have no procedure.

  57. Thanks 70 Zed Patriot. I have been busy of late but Im abreast with most of the news across Zambia.

    Im also glad that the PF vuvuzela, the POST Newspaper, has slowly started writing better articles with regards to HH and the mighty UPND Group.

    I also hope Ngandu Magande will form a political party where he will entertain competition from his party members or better still he can join the mighty UPND Group after being selfless to support the existing structures while he may be waiting to compete for a party position at the upcoming UPND General Assembly.

    As for GBM, we need better focus from him in his decision making.

    Have a blessed day all.
    _
    Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.

  58. I Blog to Remind Zambians Who They Are

    Mwata a is a Zambian blogger based in the United States of America. His blog is called Cultural Intelligence: Philosophies and Personal Opinions of . ****, an avid contributor on cultural, historical and philosophical issues on one online forum where I first met him, uses his blog, among other things, to analyse statements and actions of political leaders on a “rational—irrational” scale.

    One article that got the “Irrational thinker of the Week” label was in early August 2010 when the controversial National Constitutional Conference (NCC) of Zambia distributed the draft constitution for public scrutiny. However, an official of an opposition political party which refused to sit on the NCC, publicly tore the document…

  59. A story in the Times of Zambia ran thus: “The National Constitutional Conference (NCC) has said the conduct of Patriotic Front (PF) deputy national secretary Samuel Mukupa to tear the Draft Constitution at a political rally is an insult to the many Zambians who have made submissions including Parliament.”

    Analysing the story section by section, Chisha asks, “How does an expression of disagreement turn into an insult? If indeed it is an insult, what is the nature of the insult?”

  60. On NCC spokesperson Mwangala Zaloumis following statement “Zambians have been making submissions to the Draft Constitution and huge resources have been spent on this very important document therefore it would be wrong for people to politicise the process.”
    Chisha states, “I thought the constitution itself was a political product. How does one politicize something that is already politicized?”

  61. On Mwangala’s argument that since the NCC was a creation of the National Assembly it was wrong for an opposition leader to deal with the draft constitution in the manner he did, Chisha pointed out that: “A creation of National Assembly or not, nothing prevents one from expressing disagreement with the contents of the document as it stood.”

  62. I recently caught up with Chisha and interviewed him about his interest in blogging.

    1. When and why did you become a blogger and what sort of audience do you write for?

    Let me start by saying, I only write about that which I care about. I care about Zambians. Saying that I am honest to myself with every piece I put out. However, I am not married to the content. I am willing and ready to learn from the responses that my pieces generate.

  63. So what does the big boss say to this, I mean the cobra cum Pact presidential candidate?
    These guys obviously loathe each other but cannot do anything about it because they are so desperate for power. However, the winner will always be Sata/PF as HH has admitted that he is desperate to cling to the PF in the Pact. But HH is just admitting what he has been told all along by the public, that he can only be vice president to Sata in the Pact. And if they formed GRZ, then HH will be be disposed off.

  64. I mean Sata always appoints his subordinates doesn’t he? And he wants to be undisputed leader all the time, that is why. So what would be the point of appointing someone who has presidential ambitions?
    Iye kwena ba HH uluse, with all his business acumen, only to be dribbled by Sata when it matters most.

  65. Mwata my humble advice to you is :You can still survive without being an mmd cadre.There are alot of meaningful things, you can do for yourself and family than wasting your precious time worshipping RB and mmd.What is condemned on Earth is surely condemned in Heaven. And don’t force people to believe in what you believe. Be objective and move with time. Kwati mwalishalila sana boss. Nangu malasha kuti muleshitisha and still survive and look after your family than what you are involving yourself in now, twatendwa naimwe nobupuba bwenu. Life is short.

  66. Was HH trying to make amends after he accused his colleagues of telling him lies about his popularity?
    Well if that is the case, he should learn to think carefully before addressing the media. Politicians can be destroyed by how they handle the media or even the amount of latitude that they give to the media.
    Ask Archbishop Telesphore Mpundu what has happened to his public stature by allowing the Post to flirt with him.

  67. Interestingly, the PF/Sata MC vuvuzela in an Editorial Comment entitled “GBM should be ashamed” wrote “There is a tendency in our society to believe that people’s anti-social behaviour can be separated from their performance as leaders. In other words, we seem to believe that somebody can be scandalous and despicable in their private lives and yet be able to perform in a leadership position. If somebody cannot manage their behaviour, how can they be a leader?” This very much applies to Mr Serpentine PF/Sata MC who has failed to stop being a flip-flop or person who insults other Zambians other than himself. I hope he so-called good-performance in political work will now be matched with his outbursts that have been scandalous and dispicable.

    Be blest all.
    _
    Matt 6:33

  68. Interestingly, the PF/Sata MC vuvuzela in an Editorial Comment entitled “GBM should be ashamed” wrote “There is a tendency in our society to believe that people’s anti-social behaviour can be separated from their performance as leaders. In other words, we seem to believe that somebody can be scandalous and despicable in their private lives and yet be able to perform in a leadership position. If somebody cannot manage their behaviour, how can they be a leader?” This very much applies to Mr Serpentine PF/Sata MC who has failed to stop being a flip-flop or person who insults other Zambians other than himself. I hope he so-called good-performance in political work will now be matched with his outbursts that have been scandalous and dispicable.

    Be blest all.
    _
    Matt…

  69. Yaba, isn’t this the man who was advising against washing dirty linen in public not too long ago? HH will be defined by when he will tell his supporters “game over”.

  70. Maestro, you are one of the guys trying to cheat HH. Don’t deny that your support for HH is based on tribe! The post already gave HH good advice: accept to be VP or be reduced to the level of a councillor

  71. MWATA,,,, ULINSHIMBI, BA KAPONYA FROM PF MUST READ YOUR BLOGING WITH AN OPEN MIND, HH IS A HONEST PERSON FOR SURE AS THINGS STAND NOW, NO OPPOSITION ALONE CAN UNSEAT MMD FROM POWER, SATA AND HIS PF SHOULD NEVER FO..OOL THEMSELVES, THEY CAN NEVER BEAT MMD. AND WHAT HH IS TRYING TO TELL THESE UNEDUCATED BIGOTS IS THAT THE VOTES FOR THE OPPOSITION PARTIES FROM 2001 TO 2008 WHEN PUT TOGETHER THEY CAN LEAD TO VICTORY, SATA HAS ONE LAST CHANCE IS HE PLAYS TRICKS OF SELFISHNESS HE WILL LIVE TO REGRET IN 2016 HE WILL BE CLOCKING 80YRS AND WILL BE RELEGATED TO A POLITICAL DUSTBIN IF NOT BOTH WITH HIS PF CLUB. THE SOONER SATA HEEDS TO ADVISE FROM INTELECTUALLS THE BETTER. IF I DONT WANT TO ARGUE ON THE CHARACTER OF SATA BEING A HONEST GUY. ITS OPEN SECRETE U ALL KNOW HIS HISTORY HE CAN FLIP FLOPS

  72. 127 Man of Action greetings, you are wasting your time on bad accusations.

    Following “It is like the 73-year-old Mr Sata is the PF’s life president, which even raises more concerns on whether the party’s constitution was not just authored by the unchallengeable political comedian… [SERPENTINE PF/SATA MC] is a party that seemingly has no guidelines on how to fill vacancies, leaving everything to Mr Sata’s whims.[..] It is Mr [Serpentine PF/MC] Sata who appoints himself, appoints a vice-president, appoints a national chairperson, appoints a secretary-general and appoints members of the central committee, the UNIP style” nicely written under a title “Mwamba’s (GBM) case exposes Sata’s dictatorial leadership” in the Times of Zambia, HH knows what he has…

  73. Following “It is like the 73-year-old Mr Sata is the PF’s life president, which even raises more concerns on whether the party’s constitution was not just authored by the unchallengeable political comedian… [PF/SATA MC] is a party that seemingly has no guidelines on how to fill vacancies, leaving everything to Mr Sata’s whims.[..] It is Mr [Serpentine PF/MC] Sata who appoints himself, appoints a vice-president, appoints a national chairperson, appoints a secretary-general and appoints members of the central committee, the UNIP style” nicely written under a title “Mwamba’s (GBM) case exposes Sata’s dictatorial leadership” in the Times of Zambia, HH knows what he has to do to win Zambians’ sympathy votes.

    Be blest all.
    _
    Matt 6:33

  74. Umukulu ni nani pawamicene, nowalupala, uwamyenfu, pamo no wamfwi? Icikalamba mano!!! amano yafuma mwifwesa yaya muchulu.
    Bloggers tukwateko amano!!! Tekulandalandafye? What HH said is very true. PF and UPND cannot win if they decide to go it alone.They need to merge. Remember there is VJ and Kafupi.
    Question: Which blogger on this site can me call Vuvuzela? lol (Ndesekeshakofye)
    Zambians Vote wisely in 2010 . Think about the future of your children! God bless you all

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