Nevers Mumba urges President Lungu to reject COVID-19 vaccines until local verifications are done

1. Why not develop yours if you can’t trust others?

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   • Ken James If he was in leadership, he would have developed. Reference is Haybee

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   • Howard Mulenga then don’t question what your friends have done. You are quick to accept there donations without any questions yet you are keen in finding faults in what they have developed.

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   • Ken James I am lost sir. I really don’t know what you mean or what you’re talking about. Forgive me, maybe I misunderstood your text. Thanks

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   • Ken James You’re missing the point. It’s the level of your debate sir. Nevers is just urging the leadership to be careful when accepting the vaccine donations. But that is a problem with some people. Levy refused to accept GMO maize becoz it was questionable. What’s wrong with asking the authenticity of the vaccine.

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   • Ken James BUT SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE ARROGANT SO YOU DON’T KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS WITH THAT VACCINE

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   • Eric Kakoma and my point that develop yours that would be safe. Is that too much to ask for??

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   • LUSAKA, Jan. 6 (Xinhua) — Zambia on Wednesday reported 850 new COVID-19 cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the cumulative cases to 23,495 as the country continues to grapple with a surge in the second wave of the pandemic.

     The cases were picked from 10,461 tests while five people died bringing the total deaths to 417.

     Figures released by the health ministry further show that 146 patients were discharged during the same period bringing the total recoveries to 19,672.

     Huge gatherings have been identified as the major cause behind the second wave of COVID-19 in the southern African nation.

     Health authorities fear that the country’s health system could collapse if cases continue surging and nothing is done to contain the spread of the virus.

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2. I hope the president listens to him. There’s no need to rush. We’re beginning to hear a lot of reports about negative side effects of these vaccines. Natural immunity is the best.

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3. He maybe right on this one Nevers. We need to be extra cautious

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   • He is verg right

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4. Dr Mumba behaves like he was never a veep.
   Each country has regulatory bodies that oversee vaccine safety and efficacy before they are used widely. Globally, the WHO coordinates a number of independent technical bodies that review the safety of vaccines prior to and even after they have been introduced. Vaccines that are approved for use by the WHO have gone through rigorous tests and clinical trials to show that they are safe and effective in controlling diseases. Even though COVID-19 vaccines are being developed as rapidly as possible, they can only receive the required regulatory approvals if they meet stringent safety and efficacy standards.

   UNICEF makes the safety of children and their families its highest priority – that includes the delivery of a vaccine that is safe
   So Dr mwisakamana.

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   • Dennis Mawelera African Africans especially ZAMBIANS surprise me a lot, no wonder they’re Africans/Zambians. There are some vaccines which are questionable, and govts all over the world are talking precautions before they accept them and administer them to their citizens. Not everything coming from WHO is gospel truth. WHO also makes mistakes. Mind you, vaccines to some will be an opportunity to make money. Reference: Haybee

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   • Howard Mulenga so who will tell in zambia that the vaccine is ok to use,that it has all the required additives?you fail to make vaccine,how do you even have the technology to see through it?

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   • Dennis Mawelera That’s why we need people who are wise and understand what leadership is all about to be in leadership. They will fund research and science. Cadres in leadership is a problem

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   • Dennis Mawelera It’s very simple. Don’t involve cadres and corrupt ministers or leaders when determining the authenticity of the vaccine. We have examples if you use cadres and corrupt ministers – Haybee.

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5. develop yours or give us anointing oil

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6. Let them be the first ones

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7. Agreed.

8. VACCINES ARE FROM CHINA AND MEANT FOR CHINESE PEOPLE NOT BLACK AFRICANS ,MAYBE FOR THOSE THAT ARE LIGHT SKINNED NOT CHIFITA LIKE CHARCAOAL, ASK SONDASHI TO DEVELOP HIS

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9. Local experts?

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10. It’s futile to ask a person like a Edgar Chagwa Lungu to make such an important decision when he’s failed to take action on his own subordinates for stealing $17M and endanger the lives of masses by the supply of expired drugs and faulty gloves and condoms. To him it’s the opposition trying to force him to dismiss a hardworking Minister. ……. censored

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11. Abanabo

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12. Do we have local guys who can test covid vacines if they are allowing defective condoms and medcines to go in public do you think they can handle vacines,

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13. But this man wants attention, so what the WHO verifications are not enough with you?

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14. A very unnecessary and condescending message because everyone know that any medication has to be verified safe before use in our country.

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15. Is this man back from his arrest in congo..hope so?

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16. Is it lungu to reject or the Minister of Health?

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17. Dr Mumba
    It is best to keep quiet when you don’t know what you are talking about.

    What test is Zambia going to do. By the time it is approved where it would passed the test of efficiency and harmfulness.

    Zambia will these vaccines based on the how reliable they are.

    Zambia does not have the capacity to do a clinical trial on covid 19 drugs which are approved by stringent regulatory authorities.

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18. This one acts as if he wasn’t a beep at some point

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19. Expertise to determine efficacy? Does Zambia have the capacity?

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20. Am afraid I have to agree with Mumba on this one… We have seen and heard testimonies of what the vaccine is doing

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21. Ba Mumba naimwe, what are you talking about. To begin with Lungu is not the person to advise and besides he wont even listen to your barking.
    Elo which verifications can be done by local experts on the safety of the vaccines? How can they verify a vaccine when the country has never even developed a single vaccine in the more 50 years of Independence?
    Africans are good at talking. When the Europeans said they were going to develop a vaccine and test it in Africa, there was an uproar on the whole continent.
    Now they have developed and are busy vaccinating their people , now we are suspicious ati we need to verify the safety.
    The country can’t even manage to store the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (between -80°C and -60°C ) and tranport it throughout Zambia at that temperature.

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22. Umwenso ine. Ama vaccines kaili???????????????????

23. Mumba should be listened to on this one

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24. Do we even have the capacity to test and detect malicious things that could be incorporated in these drugs?

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25. Nevers Mumba and the Ghanaian President are now taking their religions too far. Why has he never called on independent experts to verify that the people he laid hands on and fell backwards were healed? If he really has the gift of healing why is he not using it right now to heal people who are sick with Covid. He was on television week after week performing ‘miracles’ but only for his pocket like so many other false prophets whom he inspired today. I believe in miracles but they must be verified. Now, back to the point. The issue here is not whether the vaccine is safe or not, but whether we NEED it. The world must debate whether it is worth spending billions on a disease that kills far fewer people than malaria or not.

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26. Are those the tidbits of ideas he received from Kabila while in the Congo?

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27. Lungu is a f000l who will just follow corruption if they can buy expired medicine to give his own people what do u expect on the vaccine, awe mwandi twafwa with these PF id1ots

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28. This man! Like seriously ?

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29. This man talks nonsense

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30. How can you verify drugs locally when Honey Bee consignment failed local analysis?? We are bunch of jokers

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31. Abanabo kkkkk

32. Ba Pente are so disappointing on this issue. I lost respect for pastor Chris when I heard him preach conspiracy theories about the vaccines

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33. Mumba is truly living in Utopia, false world! People are dying from Covid and he wants them to refuse free treatment, this guy is going bonkers surely.
    What are Zambian scientists going to use to check or test the vaccines since Zambians have never invented any test kit of their own.
    In other words, Zambian scientists are going to test the vaccines made by the Donors using test kits made by Donors as well? It all doesn’t make sense. This is how mad these Pentecostals led by Trump are. They are surely lunatics.

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34. Silence is golden

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35. So Nevers is really a buffon!

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36. COVID19 might end since Biden has won, it was a cover to rig the US elections at any cost to justify voting through mail in ballots as bizzer as that sounds. But first Corporation owners have to make money from the poor Nations through selling vaccines to entire populations, kill some & render some infertile. But what do I know, who would want to stop a lucrative business. Stay safe from their Bio weapon, avoid crowded areas. Dr Mumbai is right. Wish we had more leaders like you.

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37. If the Covid-19 vaccines are out for public use then it is understood that the vaccines are successful and are safe to use.

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38. Why Mumba is interfering in the government’s matter??? The government is capable to handle such type of situation. When they will be 100% sure about the vaccines, only then it will be open for local people.

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39. Is Mumba trying to scare people about the Covid-19 vaccines and warning people not to use the received Covid-19 vaccines?

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40. Just because the former Vice President refused to receive a donation of GMO maize from the USA, Mumba wants President Lungu to refuse the received vaccines??? These are two different donations. Is Mumba is out of his mind??

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41. Doctors are fools to invest the time and energy to discover vaccines for the deadly virus. And, Mumba is smart and intelligent! Soon he will share alternative options. Hahaha…

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42. Do we ever found that doctors prescribe medicine which he is not sure about? Never!! There is no medicine in the market which are dangerous for people. After doing the test, experiment, and observation, medicine is out for people because doctors also have a certain responsibility and can never risk the lives of others.

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43. President Lungu and the PF government are working hard to keep Zambians safe. Do they blindly give the Covid-19 Vaccines to people?? Think!!!

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44. I just want to ask Mumba, what his initiative towards the Covid-19 patient is… did he distributed funds or covid protection kits such as face mask, sanitizer, etc.? It is easy for him to give free suggestions to others, but it’s difficult to work hard in the fight against the deadly disease.

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45. We will only believe whatever my government is saying to me and not trust any person’s opinion. As in the election period, everybody wants to express their thoughts on government.

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46. After waiting for a year, finally people are getting the vaccine for coronavirus. Instead of expressing happiness for the good news, Mumba is trying to spread negative information, and putting fear in the minds of Zambian. Shame on him!!

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47. “Look what the cat has brought in” : Qanon Sekwila Mumba !!!.
    Leave medical opinion to real DOCTORS.

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48. Ba dokota Nevers MUMBA
    You aren’t a scientist doctor and try to differentiate between a vaccine and a
    GMO food or related substance. Its your own health and survival and you either you get the vaccine or you don’t get it your self and face the consequences alone and die alone. Do not behave like LENSHINA OF LUMPA CHURCH of the 60’s.
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49. some of these postings make for sad reading, supposedly everyone on this platform is intelligent enough to make an informed decision. Shameful for Mumba to suggest that these vaccines should be evaluated for effectiveness and safety, really and like some have said how??? Are you suggesting a trial of the same vaccines? People need to be educated so they can make informed decisions. If we had people like Mumba back in the day when polio was a problem, Zambia’s current population would have seen the detrimental effects of this. Stop showing your ignorance because you do not have anything to talk about. Don’t confuse people. I got mine so not speaking from without

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50. How sure are we that those to verify won’t be corrupted and manipulate results?

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51. How sure are we that those to verify won’t be corrupted and manipulate results? The best is to say no to the vaccine

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52. I agree with Dr Mumba. Always remember that the West doesn’t mean well for Africa. Vaccines that were distributed to Kenyan women some few years ago ended up sterilizing almost half a million of them. We need to examine everything coming from the West. Have our local competent scientists examine this vaccine before it’s allowed to be distributed to the Zambian people. That’s why Tanzania has rejected these vaccines. Be very careful. The West doesn’t mean well for Africa. Never you forget that. Be on guard. Be vigilante. Be circumspect.

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53. just take the vaccine if u want even if u ar pf u just need to accept wverything told . verification is important and wher it is coming fr Drs ar saying its not say. let the vaccine b inject for pf members only us we go for natural remedy

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54. If AFRICANS WANT THE VACCINE…dont delay GIVING THEM. GIVE THEM 2 OR 3 DOSES.

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55. My brother and sister let’s us be together in this situation.How can you trust the vaccine that is not verified by African Union and experts?
    They want to kill 3billion people in the planet by starting in Africa because we are workless and useless according to them.God will continue to confuse them.

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56. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion about the vaccine and the pandemic. Some times the ones who claim to be telling the truth ends up being the wolves. History is littered with what the west have done with vaccines and drugs and biological and chemical weapons. There are good drugs and vaccines and there are bad drugs and vaccines too. We need to understand the world we live in now with what they are doing with globalization and be very careful about how we deal with individuals, organisations, companies and countries throughout the world. Not all that glitters is gold. This is the first time a vaccine have been developed in less than two years. Every other drug or cure for covid is always shot down. And we trust these people as if they are God and not human. Please show me one…

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57. We need to be cautious with the vaccine

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58. Its simply logic .let all AFRICANS SAY KNOW. IMAGINE YOU ARE MY NEIGHOUR YOUR SURNAME IS JAMES ,YOU ARE GIVING ME PACKAGED FOOD written “not to be consumed by the james’s”

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59. Your Excellency Mr President and Dr Mumba, this vaccine is a global depopulation plan, it means genocide for your people.They deserve better,it’s a hoax pandemic to scare the people into vaccine compliance which will damage their dna forever as well as make them sterile not able to procreate ever again.The people behind this vaccine wants a New World Order and to reduce the world’s population to 500 million, it means most of your people and the rest of the world must die to benefit a handful of rich evil people.Dont give in to their bribes and poison vaccine,your people deserve better.Be a light to the rest of Africa and give it a chance to survive this terrible planned genocide on innocent people.We look up to you for guidance Mr President, our leaders have failed us.The sars cov2…

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60. Shocked by some comments. A vaccine that have been developed in less than six months. The makers of such vaccines have demanded immunity against legal action in the event that you die or anything side effects . What does that mean? It means this co-operations do not guarantee your safety. Zambia have scientists this are the same pharmacists used by these corporations here in the west. Again, those who do not know, they indeed continue to be deceived. Some of these especially Pfizer has a history of corruption and falsification of medications. In Nigeria recently they have been found using some children in Nigeria as guinea pigs. I do not know the man but I whole share what he says. We are still looking for the data of that vaccine trials repeatedly refused to be made public.

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61. Mumba is right. I wish all African countries could be aware of this and be thoughtful. Is the vaccine good for lives or harmful?

    Why hurry to be vaccinated, with a vaccine that could destroy lives rather than save them???

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62. Mumba has a good point. African Union should play a role to ensure Africans are safe ,Many people recovered without taking the vaccine we dont really need that vaccine.

63. I agree with Dr Mumba: they are dying in their own countries and they want to bring the vaccine here as if they care for you…Africa and Zambia in particular that vaccine has long term complications don’t accept it.

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