We will recover stolen property-President Hichilema

1. There is need to train more artisans as this will impart skills in our youths and they will be able to work on their own without seeking white color jobs. There a high demand of artisans starting from community level. On the Bursaries, this has been abused by the well to do and connected for a long time and there is need to seal the loop holes. On fast truck courts, are we not going back to the infamous Task Force? There is need to reform the judicial system otherwise the fast track courts will have the same people who Lungu appointed and will free or acquit the suspects. During task force time we ended up making the staff who were attached from DEC, ACC, Police, ZRA and OP very rich.

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2. Most of the stolen money is stashed outside zambia……..

   Get Israeli bounty hunters who charge a
   25 % recovery fee…..

   they are the best at sniffing out international financial crimes.

   The theives will be left with nothing after these international recovery bounty hunters finish with them…..

   I belive lungu will come clean for a guarantee of a safe retirement……he is too clever to try to fight the system.

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3. This approach is less than inspiring. The fight against corruption should start with deep reforms to ZP, ACC and DEC. Using Parliament to enhance laws so that these institutions can be better. Bill 10 had proposed the merging of FIC and DEC to create a specialised Economic Crimes Unit, that’s the kind of reform that is required. Further, the Judiciary and NPA need extra funding and support. This fast track court idea is simply an extension of the doomed task force on corruption.

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4. In Bemba we say I ya buluma taikata. Meaning your Excellency, you should have just instituted investigations without making public pronouncements. By now these people will have come up with plan D to conceal whatever is allegedly stolen.

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5. #1 Chipola Kuyanda, especially with the booming building industry. There’s a group of youths with various skills who have come together to form a company dealing with building and renovating. These guys are now in demand from Lusaka to Chililabombwe. They are making good money. They will do the house from foundation, super structure, roofing, plaster , electricals, plumbing, painting up to occupancy stage. I wish other youths can copy from these innovative group.

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6. Seen that before. Head that before.
   People stole in public opinion. Is the president lost in public opinion?
   Rule of Law always has a different perspective. You have to build a good case against the accused. Don’t spend more than you can recover. The Zambian people will not eat promises. These sound like chipante pante promises. Too many promises in a limited space of time.
   The IMF Zambia president’s keynote speech brought out more promises than how they will be fulfilled.
   Good luck.

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7. Seen that before. Head that before.
   People stole in public opinion. Is the president lost in public opinion?
   Rule of Law always has a different perspective. You have to build a good case against the accused. Don’t spend more than you can recover. The Zambian people will not eat promises. These sound like chip,ante pante promises. Too many promises in a limited space of time.
   The IMF Zambia president’s keynote speech brought out more promises than how they will be fulfilled.
   Good luck.

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8. The PF looted enough. All of them should be caged. It should start from scratch all the way up to Lungu.

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9. Seen that before. Head that before.
   People stole in public opinion. Is the president lost in public opinion?
   Rule of Law always has a different perspective. You have to build a good case against the accused. Don’t spend more than you can recover. The Zambian people will not eat pro,mises. These sound like chip,ante pante pro,mises. Too many pro,mises in a limited space of time.
   The IMF Zambia president’s keynote speech brought out more pro,mises than how they will be fulfilled.
   Good luck.

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10. On that we are together.
    Only hope we won’t spend more than the value of certain properties in the process.

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11. Zambian Citizen – There you go with your Bill 10 nonsense ..the only reason they wanted to merge FIC and DEC is to get rid of FIC director and the team and absorb in in a DEC which is easy to control and then eliminate the need for FIC Reports. FIC sends data to act upon to DEC, ACC and other security wings why would you want to merge it? Simple so everything is in-house and water down easily.

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12. Deja Vu – Its laughable how PF sympathisers are coming up with various excuses to criticise these policy proposals so you crooked tenderpreuers can walk away…you think these people need to hear what the President is going say to come up with plan D….they already made their moves immediately they saw that Lungu was losing and before ECZ was dilly darling in announcing the winner

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13. “We will improve the benefit of being honest, rather than being dishonest and more funding will be allocated to the Law enforcement Agencies to deal with corruption. We have waged war against corruption and will fight it from the past, present and the future so that resource benefit all citizens,” President charged.

    We now have a President who has the political will to fight corruption…its also high time ECZ was reformed this is one thing I picked up in his interview at his New Kasama house interview just before the elections and true to his word he has said it in parliament.

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14. Spaka – Israelis only specialise in tracking down Nazi loot stolen from Jews during the WWII for example paintings …why would you want to pay someone 25% of what already belongs to you? This is why there is Interpol …if the money is in some offshore account in a tax haven in crypto currency not even FBI can get hold of it.

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15. #7 Tarino you are an 1d10t that thinks with his a.r.se. You think everyone who criticize is PF? In any case just as you prefer Upnd other people also have a right to choose a party. You are a one Party type of person.

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16. Deja Vu – There is no need to be vulgar ..You can fooool bloggers who have just logged in today for the first time as being objective but you can not fooool the resident bloggers. Its not about preference its about whats best for my country …that what matters to me!!

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17. Koma mwe. Let’s get those properties back. Ma guys I was seeing with powerful cars was not funny at all. A kapolo cabe mweo shuwa! Most of them were so simple they told us they had no idea how they landed those properties aside from dancing for PF. A Bemba akuti ni sotambe!

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18. “Meaning your Excellency, you should have just instituted investigations without making public pronouncements.” …what makes you think investigations are not underway? Money always leaves a trail, that’s what FIC was created and if its been transferred to another bank abroad it can be frozen as well if the bank is signature to anti-laundering regulations.

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19. Awe Tarino, Spaka is right. Look up the famous Jules Kroll. He has done such recoveries before. When it is so difficult to recover stolen assets detectives are given that incentive so that they can recover what the owners would otherwise never have been able to. States usually do not have the resources to do that work even if they enlisted Interpol.

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20. These pronouncements and press briefings will make you look busy but ultimately with no results to show for.
    3 square meals, free education cheaper fertiliser, medicines in hospitals…etc are what we’re looking forward to, which ever way you achieve them…rearrange your priorities your Excellency.

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21. Kalok – The answer lies in your post …when its difficult ..most of these old school chaps like Chitotela are not that sophisticated to hide money in cryto currency on the black net.

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22. Mauya – Go and read the whole speech then come and post about all that you have written…how can someone who has been in office 4 weeks start showing results. The problem is you dont hear the whole speech or how he has said he will start from point A to arrive at D.
    Either way the “Uubomba Mwibala” concept of LAZY LUNGU is forthwith banned.

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23. Also ACC should investigate privatisation scandals.

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24. Look who’s talking…and HH should explain his role in privatization and how he acquired his wealth…his speech is hollow….he needs to be the first one to be investigated…

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25. Saulosi – if HH was culpable in the privatisation debacle do you really think he would be even be a President today? You honestly think PF would have let him walk away
    You sound like spoiled small children now…really laughable.

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26. When Lazy Lungu is implicated in this Privatisation investigation you are calling for…you will be first one to cry witch-hunt here like silly toddlers

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27. Tarino you are very ignorant about democracy. It’s about choice and respond other people’s choice otherwise you are not different from the PF that loathe with passion.

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28. Start with Land and property please! most of the laundered money was cleaned up by purchasing land and building houses. Property built from stolen money should be forfeited to the state for auction or house key workers. How can some government individuals and civil servants claim to own over a hundred houses in a short period of time when some UNIP ministers despite serving the longest term in office could not afford a house? Clean up the land issues because we are seeing people advertising a beach by the lakes and rivers. Please flash them out.

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29. Resident and / or non resident bloggers
    Be objective rather than being subjective…
    I know it will be a cold day in hell if you turned your back on your men but lets be reasonable people… how do you expect someone to turn around the situation overnight ; just less than a fortnight in office and you expect something that cost 800 to drop to 250 awe unreasonable .

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30. Once again appalling journalism
    Fast track and not fast truck
    Assets and not asserts

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31. It feels good if stolen property is recovered. But it is advisable to do things differently this time. We have been there before.
    There was Kapoko, Chiluba, Kalumba, Lyato and others.

    When RB and other MMD goons were investigated, from 2012, UPND cried foul, that the former leader was victimsied. Really?

    Investigations or witch hunt, let’s wait and see.

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32. @Sight, isn’t this the same thing UPND did in previous elections? Did they not claim better leadership and created a parallel government instead of debating issues that mattered? We wouldn’t have been in this situation if we had an effective opposition in the first place. If you set high expectations, you will be held accountable. UPND needs to switch to governing mode and that comes with criticism so export more not less.

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33. This moderation business is now becoming selective mwe!

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34. Levy Mwanawasa started prosecuting those who were trying to undermine his Presidency (FTJ and Co.) by going to parliament to lay serious corruption carges against FTJ and establish a prima facie case against him. Despite being a lawyer, he had not looked at whether there was a legal framework for instituting prosecution against FTJ and Co., whether GRZ had sufficient prosecutors to constitute the task force against corruption. When he realised this, he started working in reverse gear and ended up raising the political temperature of the country. His government had to engage private prosecutors at great cost to the country. To-date, Zambians have no idea of how what was recovered went to benefit them. If you want to institute fast track stolen assets recovery system, first have a legal…

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35. … framework for it in place before you constitute and swear in a special team of investigators and prosecutors to carry out the work. Then commit financial resources to this. So far there is nothing to suggest this is going to happen. We are still with campaign promises that fail to tell us how these will be fulfilled.

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36. @Tarino @16 — Gosh! You are so right!!! Yes! In that context we do not need Jules Kroll mwandini! I agree absolutely and totally with you. Plus those who fled with some chump change may not be the effort of Kroll for sure!

37. Witchhunt! Witchhunt Wiitchhhuunnttt madam speaker sir.

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38. Deja Vu – now you want to lecture me about democracy whilst pretending to be objective…l never hated PF i detested its leadership of Lazy Lungu it was under state capture it was a criminal organisation.
    And I am no member of UPND…if they mess up they too will be in the firing line.

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39. who the F&*k is the owner of the 48 houses????????????????????????? question still lingering!!

40. Virtually all previous Presidents in Zambia abhorred corruption. Thus historically how some of the departments such as DEC, ACC, FIC and others within the security services came about. So the question remains how to fight corruption. Merely expressing the will to fight it is a very long way from actually doing something about it. We have heard it all before yet people still complain about it. We need to be careful when dealing with rumours and suspicions. Why don’t we identify the corrupt activities and the culprits first before prescribing the punishment? I thought this is what HH meant when he advised the police to investigate and compile facts first before arresting people. So sad that the song on corruption has gotten louder, in spite of all the police investigative departments…

41. HH should be very serious, careful and strong with this one. He should remember that he is not dealing with common thieves. PF were criminals who used state power to steal. Naturally thieves steal not to be caught, meaning there are so many ways they have laundered the money. Your approach should use all enforcement Institutions – DEC, ACC, POLICE and ZRA. Where one Institutions fails due to inadequate legal mandate- the other one picks up.

    To establish correct net worthy of these people – Their life styles speak volumes and we also need a coherent record of audited financial accounts and income tax return filing and tax payments in tandem with their bank balances. I am ready to help …!!

42. Are also going to be given the truth about privatization and HH’s watch? And a little more details how he got his wealth

43. What are you waiting for since power is in your hands, and you know them we have not heard anyone fleeing Zambia is it so difficult to arrest a thief no it is easy ! are you afraid that is soft question to you head of state.
    People are waiting to see how serious you are not just empty words please act.

44. Recovery Of Stolen Public Property – the case of Legal Framework:
    I understand there was a case that failed, when one minister was accused or arrested on suspicion of cash proceeds in his hands. I am told defense lawyers objected successfully, because our laws do not state one has to disclose the actual source of their “wealth”. Has our law been amended, or restored to what KK stood on in firing and arresting culprits?? Isn’t it the scenario, for example the 48 or so houses remain unaccounted for?

45. Recovering money looted by PF is easy. Give an amnesty to pay back the looted money before the angecies waste resources to investigate. Failure to that follow this framework below;

    1. First start by investigating the movement of money within bank accounts of suspects. Every penny that touched or left the suspect ‘s account should be accounted for
    2. If the suspect got a govt loan or won a govt tender fraudulently, investigators should check the loan repayment paper trail and tendering paper work submitted if it still exists if not ask why?
    3. If the suspect claims the money is payment for business services, then the suspect ‘s business account books should be checked to find out tax evasion loopholes used.
    4. Investigate how much tax the suspect ‘s business paid year on year…

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46. How things change – how does it feel sleeping with your heads outside the window ba PF?

47. Advise the president not waste his precious time on this goose chase. Mwanawasa tried to recover stolen property..investigators travelled around the globe only to recover a TV in the copperbelt from Regina Mwanza Chiluba.. Focus on big issues like power generation

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48. Redi.
    I like your sense of humor those mistakes are the commonest and soon we shall be seeing TV sets being recovered from suspects, suspected to have taken more money from the coffers they are all as clever as he is ! to keep all that he got from privatization who doesn’t know the story.
    What I know is that those people you have appointed each one of them has an agenda, to amass wealth just as others people go into politics with a trajectory, they don’t just dance in the sun and dust and sweat for nothing .

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