Government has warned that anybody agitating for succession of Western province from the rest of Zambia risk being arrested for treason.
Home Affairs Minister Mkhondo Lungu has said the law will not spare the agitators of seccession. Mr Lungu has reiterated that government will not tolerate attempts to delink Western province from the rest of Zambia as this is a recipe for instability in the country. He was speaking at a press briefing in Lusaka today.
Mr Lungu has also disclosed that government is aware of the meeting planned by those advocating for the implementation of the Barotse Agreement. Mr Lungu says the meeting is scheduled for January 14th, but emphasises that police will not give a permit to the organisers.
And Mr Lungu said yesterday’s Meeting between the Litunga and Vice President George Kunda went well. He said the meeting was called to discuss the recent disturbances that have rocked Western province. He said President Rupiah Banda delegated the Vice President to meet the Litunga.
However, Mr Lungu could not disclose the details of the meeting because Mr Kunda was expected to brief president Banda before issuing statements.
Meanwhile Mr Lungu has counseled politicians to conduct peaceful campaigns in the run up to the 2011 general elections. Mr Lungu said politicians should not conduct their campaigns in a manner that could promote anarchy and violence. He has also called on various stakeholders in the nation to preach peace ahead of the elections.
Mr Lungu has further appealed to the media not to disseminate information that might cause anxiety in the nation. The Minister was responding to journalists at a press briefing in Lusaka today.
And Mr Lungu has also added his voice to people that have condemned colonel Panji Kaunda over his recent statement that the 2011 general elections will be the bloodiest.
[ZNBC]
There will be no splitting zambia .
Good news Pact president chosen and to be announced next…..Go pact gooooooo……
Why risk being charged with treason. They have already advocated for Barotseland and thir message is all over the place ..why not just move in and charge them with treason. Why are you waiting for? No sure yourselves?
Good evening
At least one minister is talking sense in RB’s gov’t. Acts of delinking parts of the country from the mainland have always been a recipe for instability anywhere in the world.
Look and learn from the Berlin Wall, the civil unrest in Bosnia and the Baltic region, IRA, North and Soth Korea etc. The biggest opressors of any nation are those that perpetrate their ambitions to divide and rule. Zambian people, no matter which province they live in, should unite and work together for the common survival of the nation. Ulemu kuli a Lungu for this important press briefing.
OK, let me do my own spelling check before someone else does it for me. LoL!
south Korea, oppressors.
Thank you.
wa nya ba chimbwi
Number 4, well said. Let us all work hard for peace and unity.
Zambia chalo chesu, westerner’s stop dreaming just suck it up and get over it. stop insighting civil war.
We will never givup…with or without a permit…..the meeting is on, u dont rule Barotseland….The Litunga rules…Viva Linyungandambo,Viva Nakushimba,Viva BFM, Viva BPF…..
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We understand the frustractions of the people of Western Province. Indeed the province remains as the most underdeveloped in the country. However, splitting away from Zambia is not the solution, just demand for equitable distribution of the national cake.
Peace must prevail….lets avoid blood shed,,……don underestimate barotseland….An agreement is an agreement…honorable lungu…be careful with your statements….!!!!!!!!!
Why do we have to endure this for so long?????? why are we scared of the document that was signed in good faith…eyes wide open for KK….please we human and we prone to violence@ any tym…lets be responsible once and for all….when two elephant fight its the grass that suffers..we care for our generation hence we dont want blood shed in Zambia after 46 years of peace……….We are elephants too so …….am bleeding…..Long Live Barotseland!!!!!!
let KK explain more on the agreement. Col Panji stated of blood shed in 2011 is he a prophet of Dom? lwanela seili sa hao. Goverment is inciting Violence by intimidating the Lozis.Lozis are very very CRUEL mind U. Watch out. ZNS, Army, police and Zaf are the major Lozis employers so what are saying, will they sit down watching their relatives being prosecuted God forbid .
Now that any lozi advocating for the delinking of BAROTSE LAND from the rest of Zambia will charged for Treason. Then all lozis should be charged for treason. Natina pantu aba Lozi bali ba sana CRUEL. no wonder they are mostly found in the Defence wings. Figting them will be a tough task i can assure you. However im aging my lozi cousins that iam supporting them because of NO DEVELOPMENT in thier area. LWANELA SEILI SA HAO MULOZI. Na baminyantilila sana bane.
Reading Mr lungu’s statements on peace appeal he is infact canonising Panji’s wise words. contrary to his observation that he is condeming.
As for barotse question issuing of threats will not solve any than just sweep the thing under the carpet. I think KK did the same. thats why i still back cause for an indaba to review the agreement.
I stand to be collected: Barotse land is not fighting for independence BUT surely they are asking for the upholding or regonition of the official (signatured) agreement. Look at Zim land apparent riddle; simply by looking at lancaster house agreement the ridle is solved.
So mwebena zed, RB nabanankwe unless the agreement is reviewd it stands and owed to be upheld. Ifi nalanda am sure its now a rested case.
i have started the process of fasting and praying for the lozis who will caged after being charged for treason. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah…………………………………
Barotse army @ 12 walasa; bravo
As for the clergy man @ 11 this issue is never about splitting away but recognition of the agreement – whether that entails actual splitting that is accidential and perhaps not necessary to the question. so the question is what is basic to the barotse plea?????????
Just thinking….:-?
Wasn’t this agreement made based on lack of proper information to the British? What really consitutes Barotseland? If it includes Lamba-land and many other areas claimed, then it was based on a mistake which should now be corrected…
Suppose, just suppose, Barotseland was de-linked and the Lambas and all other people say they will belong to Zambia….:-w
And oh, @18 I wonder how anyone will collect you;)
# 12 Barotsearmy, you say war then you say peace, i think you are a small kid who doesnt know what war is, you will leave your wife and run to save your own skin my brother when war breaks out. Some of you agitators here need to be lined up for firing squad. I said there will be no splitting of zambia.
Why not hold a referendum on the issue. How many want the agreement to be restored and what really will acrue to Western Province or Barotseland as it may be if the agreement is restored?
I am Luvale brought up in Livingstone Southern province, for your own information Livingstone will never belong to Barotseland. We have lived in peace with our most accomodating Tongas and Tokaleya people and have even tolerated you Lozis so much that sometimes you become a bother. Stick to your domains and never you claim what is not yours. Some of us are comfortable in zambia where everyone has an opportunity not just royal family members. Chief Mukuni of the Tokaleya in Southern province has worked hard to woe investors to develop the city and now Livingstone is a better place for all zambians regardless of tribe. Lozis never test people’s generocity because of your backward minds of wanting to be on your own. We are watching your moves with our two eyes.
@ 22 for Gods sake i bet you realise that it should read read “correct.” Oh yes can now everyone correct me.
A lot of people including myself dont know the content of the agreement. We just feed on hearsay. The wise way of dealing with this issue is to see and understand the actual document before we demonize our brothers and sisters. If there’s anyone who has a copy of the agreement, pliz send me one. I will be greatful. My email is [email protected]. Thanks in advance.
Lozis if you can show me any document as proof that you held a referendum to get people’s consent before including their land to be part of your Barotseland, then I will agree with you, but if not then what you were doing was illegal thats why your BA cannot be included in the Draft constitution. These areas you you included in your agreement are under other chiefs and their people cannot be royal to that Litunga of yours who they upto date cannot count as existing in zambia. Lozis, you are lazy by nature and want to benefit where other people have worked, you know that minerals are finishing on the copperbelt and Lumwana now is the Copperbelt of zambia hence your claim to include it as part of your Barotseland. Our eyes are more than open we are not daft.
I bet even the BA forefront pushers haven’t all read the doc.
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BAROTSE ARMY
Take your junk somewhere else. Shame on you. It shows and says a lot about you. Sorry, you will die without seeing your dream. Western Province will always be part of Zambia. Deep down your useless mind and heart, you know that this is a none-starter story.
#27 Kangwa, I am personally aware of the Barotse agreement, if you do not know then search though google. I am even aware of what they recently submitted to the NCC where they surrendered Copperbelt to Zambia but included North-western’s Lumwana and went on even to state that since Livingstone is predominantly Lozi speaking it will be part of Barotseland, no wonder this submission was thrown away. That one was really an insult to people of southern province who have accommodated Lozis with a motive that it is a one zambia one nation and everyone is free to reside anywhere, but for them it is all about occupation. How can you claim people’s provincial capital, Lozis never provoke people’s generocity. Just because western province is empty u want to claim what is not yours.
I think the solution is simple. A referendum should be held in all the areas that were included in the original document that was signed by the Litunga Lewanika and the British South Africa company. If most people in the area in question want the restoration of the Barotse agreement or cessation then so be it. In other words, Nkoyas, Luvales, Kaondes, Lambas, Ilas, Toka-Leyas, Mbundas, Lundas, Limas, Lenjes, Mbwelas, Ndembus, Luchazis Salas, Sebas, Mashi, Subiya and many others should all have a say as to whether or not they want to be part of Zambia. If they were under the auspices of the Litunga as the original document states, am sure the above mentioned peoples and others will want to restore the rightful authority of ‘their’ monarchy.
Iwe ka Kusuka Mkhondo uzisunge ka! This is how civil wars begin because for an old UNIPIST that Mkhondo is, he should know better that people are not scared anymore. So funny too to realise that George Kunda is in Lealui negotiating with the Litunga on how to incorporate the Agreement into the new constitution while in Lusaka this UNIPIST minister makes such threats as though people will be scared, atase! Come January 14 there will be running battles of “tung’oto” across those Barotse sands. And Bwezani having introduced Savimbi to Kaunda in the 60s, we can count on Santos to back us up.
It’s a Goal…. BAROTSE ARMY has been doing it with his mother. So you are the Mother Whatever !!!!
@ kangwa the document is on line you can google it.@ kanguya the copper you claiming to be in NWP will also finish very soon just like in your sister province Copper holes. Chinese thieves will be visiting u very soon. About my the mineral resouces in Western they are still un tapped thas why Lozis want start the exploration works themselves not you thieves with you mobile Hospitals.
Poverty stricken western province will always be part of our beautiful zambia. Just fundraise for your Kuomboka to move your chief to dry land, you always remain our babies. Nkoyas are the majority and do not want to be part of you, so just stick to Mongu and Senanga or better still go back to South Africa where you claim to have come. This is a modern world where everyone is free to associate and not annexation.
10#BAROTSE ARMY , 10#BAROTSE ARMY & 10#BAROTSE ARMY
I am sure by this time BAROTSE ARMY is about to jump on the sister and do a Sister-F***cker
Sometimes it good just to read the comments from others and not to expose your shallow thinking.
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33# Chimunya,
Having read your comments. I have just learnt the names of other tribes that I did not know among the 72 tribes we have in Zambia
Come on #30 you lack education, you don’t have to insult back now do you. Some of you have to grow up, what you said was totally uncalled for you’re a hypocrite.
Anyway it appears there’s a lot of ignorance about the barotse agreement, no one is splitting zambia the issue is for the agreement to be recognised in the zambian constitution. Without that agreement there was never going to be a zambia, read wide people and try understand what is going on. It is not treason to advocate for the document to be recognised, if this minister thinks you can arrest 1000’s of people for treason go ahead. Remember that this issue will affect many generations to come the earlier it’s resolved the more united zambia will become.
@ kanguya i can see you are adicted to lozis .
#36 so you want to tape natural resouces when you make your own country but still ask for development from us whose land is being used to develop the nation while you benefit in terms of roads, and building schools and hospitals etc. Then GRZ has a reason for not developing your area because you cannot benefit on other people’s sucrifices when you are reserving your own resources. Zambians watch these Lozis they are here for no good for zambia. Lazy people.
@ kanguya what development are talking about. The same no develepment is the main cause of the if call if u didnt know . because of people like you , HEADS will ROLL!
#39 it seems you Lozis do not know what you are advocating for, today it is including the Barotse agreement, tomorrow it is sucession. Let me educate you guys, we cannot include that document in our constitution because it’s content is illegal, and was based on deceit period. It is not only the word BA but it’s content is what we detest to the fullest, where other people’s land is added as part of deceitful and illegal document. Again guys stick to your domains of western province or even just Mongu if other tribes in western province are not for your idea.
I will also take central province bane.Broken hill was my mother’s village.
If you fail to sweep a one room, how can you manage to clean up a 4 bedroomed house. Expecting development under Lozi leadership is like picking green leaves from a dead tree.
Lozis just because of your mindset of sucession, wherever you have influence the area is poor, Look at Kaprive stipe in Namibia, it is the poorest in that country because of their agenda of wanting to seperate of Namibia. Why can’t you develop a mindset of development to make your living standards bettter, than what you are advocating for. Kaprive is the poorest in Namibia and western province is also the worste in Zambia.
Ok Lozis am off for work see you later.
Mwene Kanguyu, don’t you think you have puked enough unintelligent verbature on this site and its about time you shut up and switch off that stinking bigoted oral diarrhea of yours? It’s stinking vile out here now with your excrement nyamazai iwe!
When i did my masters , we called this ‘ Cah cows
‘ Thanks
i’v never believed in stereotypes of any kind,ethnic or racial alike.right now though I’m forced to reconsider because Lozis are showing ignorance n utmost selfishness…two words GROW UP!all of you.Zambia is not to be partitioned like a one year old’s birthday cake.Your minds are flooded with ignorance.Please wise up and get onto the nalikwanda that is reason and think rationally…abukeni umumana wabupuba.please you are our brothers and we need to be painfully honest.
10 BAROTSE ARMY & 39 Barotse Loyalist
If you have something to say or educate others, then better to say your points. The issue is why does one need to call others “Mother Whatever” ??
I agree with (30 Law & Order ) for throwing it back on him to see how it feels.
No one is agitating for suceession. GRZ is panicking. Barotse patriots are increasing everyday and not even bullets will stop them! they are fighting for a geneuine caause. Zambia is ruling barotseland illegally without the barotseland Greement! they are the ones who should be charged for treason, by overthrowing the Litunga and the Kuta and using gun and threats to keep them quite. the Minister will be charged for crimes against humanity should anyone be harmed among the barotse Patriots, should anyone be arrested, ttortured or inhumanised! GRZ shoyuld learn to understand that they are behaving like lunatics in this matter. who gave them the upper hand, since they are mere partners with the BRE in the formation of Zambia. we are awaiting the Limulanga declaration!
The Nkoya Royal Establishment (NRE) will not allow Western Province to be given to the BRE. The BRE already have what they are asking for so why all this noise? The NRE proposed a solution to this issue. Separate Western Province into two, One part can be called whatever the BRE want to call it, and the other part already has a name, Kafue Province. The is the lasting solution to this issue and the Government need to act on it and make it happen. The BA64 in its format can not be recognised because all of the BREs claims can be challenged in a court of law. The agreement was illegal that is why it was signed in London and not Lusaka. KK was young with very limited education so there is a chance that he did not know what he was doing when he signed that illegal and highly biased document.
Mr Lungu zed is a sinking ship and we Lozis can’t have our lifeboats?Please come find me coz we can never agree to zambian slavery.What is so special about poor zed if bigger,richer countries split before-yugoslavia did,pakistan did,indonesia did & sudan will.I dare Mkundu to use state terror on a people wanting their rights if he wants to be at the ICC.We have plenty of our own in the army you know.
BAROTSE ARMY 10#,
Your vacous rhetoric has no substance or opportunity to be realised. Zambia is a unitary state and she will reamain so. Western province is not a domicile of you insurgents in Mongu only but a multi tribal part of Zambia constituted of diversity and disinterest majority chiefdoms and tribes. Have you trolls done a referendum to ascertain the will of other tribes among the malozis. Just the other week the nkoya chief dishonored this rubbish illegal BA 64 of yours. So how are you going to force them in? Its it by cleansing them out of western province? Open up western province to investment and other Zambians rather than calling them manyuku-nyuku (foreigners) when they do assimilate you around Zambia and the world. Stop being xenophobic instead be progressive.
Five Point Plan of Kafue Province
1. Develop Infrastructure e.g. Railway Line to link with NWP, SP, CP, LP, the revised WP and Angola, More Roads, Expand Kaoma Airstrip into an International Airport , Schools, Hospitals and State of the art University (Kafue University)
2. Encourage Local and FDI in agriculture ( Kaoma has enough fertile land to feed the entire Zambia if fully developed), mining ( Oil, Gas, Diamonds, Emeralds, Copper, Gold, Uranimum etc) tourism ( Kafue National Park)
3. Work with the Republic of Zambia’s Central Government to ensure peace is maintained.
4. Create Employment and an environment were every Zambian can trade fairly without fear or favor.
5. Increase the coffers of the Kafue Province to ensure that taxes are collected and used for social…
BAROTSE ARMY 10#,
When are you surrendering Zambian passports in missions abroad at the Passport office in zambia then report yourselves to your host country immigration departments that you are catotes in domicility?
When are going to start applying for Zambian transit visas enroute to your village in Western province?
When are you going to tell all lozis to demolish their properties and businesses from Zambia in return to your kwahaye?
When are you leaving all occupied jobs for Zambians?
Can we start altering the database of all lozis’s land title deeds at ministry of lands and Councils for transfer to Zambians since you are secceeding and when?
I find you to be a wishful troll to say the least. You perish with your dead-end dreams against united Zambia.
Mkondo Lungu: Can you please cage the MOTHER–F**K*R, “BAROTSE ARMY” lunatic at @10?!
This fo.ol spends all his time on line waiting for this topic (BA Nonsense) to come up so he can open his foul mouth. How can you call others “mather ****ers” when you yourself have never done it with your Mother!! Or maybe I am wrong, you are indeed that perverted to have even seen what YOUR OWN MOTHER FEELS LIKE “DOWN THERE”! What an excuse of a human you are!
Anyway, as for the BA is concerned, you Lozis are going about this a wrong way. If you advocate for the autonomy contained in the BA to be extended to all provinces, you might be able to get some support from other Zambians. Because power at the moment is too centralized in Lusaka . But secession talks will never take U anywhere!!
The recognition and development of Kafue Province will push Zambia into the top 3 economy in Africa. This is our vision for our motherland Zambia.
Viva Kafue Province, Viva Nkoya Royal Establishment, Viva Zambia, Viva vision 2030.
#38 I think the point you are raising about the various ethnic groups we have in Zambia is a general one. I remember recently a fellow blogger here on LT, stating that he did not realise that there was an ethnic group called ‘Lamba’ in Zambia until Mwanawasa became president. I remember meeting a fellow Zambian in London who claimed that he had never heard of the Lungu ethnic group to which my late grand-father belonged. This might also explain some of the grievances of those who claim that W province is marginalised as they probably have a limited knowledge of Zambia generally, and do not realise that poverty in the country is widespread and not just centred around W province. In fact, there are many statistics which suggest that Luapula is in fact the poorest province in Zambia.
#59 KK’s government made a mistake by coming up with the so called “Main Languages” or “Major Languages” or “Major tribes”. Surely how to you determine what a major language is, what is the criteria?
One can not say we have 72 tribes in Zambia then at the same time say we have 7 or so Major languages. This policy alone lead many Zambians to know only a few of the languages or tribes in the country.
But with a change of policy by central government can change all this. Recognise all languages and tribes as equal. There are no major or minor language or tribe but simply Zambian languages and tribes.
#60 I concur with you. In fact by not recognising all ethnic groups we are doing ourselves a disservice as we should be celebrating our rich diversity whilst at the same time promoting our unity. I think it is high time that the real marginalised Zambians (those who do not belong to the 7 ‘major’ ethnic groups) stood up and be counted as they may well find that their identities swamped by the more vocal elements. Kudos to the work of the Nkoya Royal Establishment and for anyone who wishes to celebrate Zambia’s rich heritage please watch the Kathanga ceremony of the Nkoya people on Youtube.
You people stereotype will just kill us, just find your own space in zambia which is a land of plenty and move ahead to better your living standard and that of your family. If you are going to cry for recognition and identity then you die a depressed person because you can even die for what you do not deserve or even understand at all. The most important thing to me is to be able to speak my own language and I do not bother if others recognise it to be important, and secondly to find my own space for a living so that my family does not suffer. I am not ready to fight for someone’s errors whose motive I do not know well. You can fight for Mwanawina’s decisions today, maybe he willingly wanted to be part of Zambia thats why he signed the document as duress was not recorded.
#56 Senior Citizen – Surprisingly this is the only time you have written something that I agree with and that is sensible. Well done. I will probably need to take you seriously from now on. Cheers
If reppression is the way forward then this issue is far from being closed. Infact it is the beginning. Secret meetings between Gk and the Litunga wont help. I foresee Panjis prediction coming soon.
breaking news from reliable sources…..PACT HAS CHOSES SATA AS PRESIDENT….voice of america news
Bloggers insults either way won’t help. Let’s face the facts and deal with it.
1. BA64 exists, why was it made? without it what would the zambian landscape be like today .
2. A call for bloodshed is total irresponsible. BRE should compile a comprehensives document stating the demands of the people of WP & present this to the govt.
outlining the
Lungu go back to EP.
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That agreement is illegal as it was based on deceit by the then Litunga to the BSA Company – claim of sovereignity over areas that had never even heard of the Lozi. Furthermore, other tribes in Western Province, eg the Nkoya, Mbunda, etc, will not be prepared to be part of Barotseland and this will result into ‘Barotseland’ becoming a small ‘country’ based around Mongu, Senanga, Sesheke, etc. Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true.
mbesuma@65, LIAR! LIAR! Voice of America is available on the net and there is no such news on it right now. Rumormonger!
Muntu# 23, mother ****er who the **** do you think you are?, you can keep your zambia, we will keep our barotse land and only your ass will be lined up for the firing squard, you get that mother ****er? go and suck you mother’s tits, you are still a child in napies mother ****er……..
# 53 “You have a lot of your own in the army…” Which army? Zambia Army? Ironic…
I honestly didn’t think you lot are this dull! It is written up here: “anybody agitating for seccession of Western province from the rest of Zambia risks being arrested for treason”.
So why are you behaving like id i O ts who can’t think? If you’re not for secession then shut the f**k up coz this doesn’t concern you!
# 71 Are you this bitter?
Well, the agreement sounds like Gaza under seige. Like Israel-Gaza saga. I hope there will not be suiside bombings. Zambians this can be sorted out. People an agreement is an agreement. What was KK thinking for God’s sake? What settlement was there to allow KK on behalf most unborn Zambians to go into such an agreement. What was he in a hurry for? Independence? The presidence??? What?
Please lets address development issues. I personally would not want to be ruled by a chief and some previlaged royal family and indunas. Lets just work to develop Zambia. There is no guarantee that the Litunga can do a better job that what is prevailing.
The Litunga is a very powerful figure in Western Province but he has not used his power and influence to steer development in Western Province, he just sits on his throne. Look at what Chief Mukuni has done for his area..Thats what we need.
This BA issue must be closed once and for all so that we concentrate on developing ZAMBIA.
thank you!!
In central Africa there was a huge Kingdom called Luba -Lunda Kingdom. In south Africa there was a huge Kingdom called Kwazulu. Should Africa go back to those Kingdoms? Only Lozis can think like that. The lozis have no basis to delink like the South Sudan. Its just some very angry lozi who is doing this.in fact after they succed in breaking off they will still be fighting for various positions in their Kingdom.
Ifthere are too many Loi’s in the army why is it that only Mwamba Luchembe had enough balls to attempt coup without doing time. while our cousin from east tried and was captured causing Jack Chiti to be arrested as well. Lozis are cruel but they have no balls.. In fact I suspect the Litunga is behind this but he has no balls to say it. Ask Our Chitimukulu the day we will say we are taking over Northen province and Coppebelt it will not take us 46years. You lozis must learn from us we do it strategically very soon you will wake to find that the Litunga is bemba hahahaha.
76—-SPOT ON!!!! GOOD THINKING!!!
Oh ho ho poor souls. First you chase investors (infesters) then you cry for development, what a bunch of jokes!
Chipata is what it is today (or rather what it was two years ago before RB) because of investors, including the despised Bamwenye. Ask bamene banayendako.
No minerals whatsoever, kambwili chabe (hoe)
Other cases in point: Kasama and the super Livingstone, Government couldn’t even do the Zimba road!! Investors, bane Investors. Local will compete with foreign not local Vs local, malabishi!
Oh ho ho ho you lot are a bunch of jokes! First you chase investors (infesters) then you cry for development.
Chipata is what it is today (or rather what it was two years ago before RB) because of investors including the despised bamwenye. No minerals whatsoever, kambwili chabe (hoe).
Other cases in point: Kasama and the super Livingstone where government couldn’t even repair the Zimba road for years!!
What a bunch of lazy cry babies…eish! Investors bane malozi, investors kwasilaaa…kufelile
THE BAROTSELAND AGREEMENT 1964
THE BAROTSELAND
AGREEMENT 1964
Presented to parliament by the secretary for commonwealth relations by command of her majesty may 1964
LONDON
HER MAJESTY’S STATIONERY OFFICE
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THE BAROTSELAND AGREEMENT 1964
Following talks in London between the British Government, the Government of Northern Rhodesia and The Litunga of Barotseland; an Agreement regarding the position of Barotseland within independent Northern Rhodesia was concluded at the commonwealth Relations office on 18 th May, 1964. It is entitled, “The Barotseland Agreement 1964”. It was signed by Dr.K.D.Kaunda, Prime Minister of Northern Rhodesia, by Sir Mwanawina Lewanika III,K.B.E Litunga of Barotseland and by the Right Honourable Duncan Sandys M.P…
APPENDIX
THE BAROTSELAND AGREEMENT 1964
This Agreement is made this eighteenth day of May, 1964 between KENNETH DAVID KAUNDA, Prime Minister of Northern Rhodesia of the one part and SIR MWANAWINA LEWANIKA THE THIRD ,K.B.E., Litunga of Barotseland, acting on behalf of himself, his heirs and successors, his council, and the chiefs and people of Barotseland of the other party is signed by the Right Honourable Duncan Sandys, M.P Her Majesty’s principal secretary of state for common wealth relations and for the colonies, to signify the approval of her majesty’s government in the united kingdom of the arrangements entered into between the parties to this agreement and recorded therein.
Whereas it was proposed that the northern Rhodesia shall become an independent sovereign state to be…
This agreement is about Lozis and yet you want to claim territory way beyond you boundaries. Which other tribe included by deceit is talking about this defunct Barotse Agreement? What have the Litungas done for western province apart from swimming in unwaranted respect and glory and people going to clap and falling over in the sand before him?. That power distance between the Litunga and the subjects is a huge development challenge, in fact the very reason why Western province has not and will never develop.
Let KK explain to the nation about Barotse agreement before he dies This issue is creticle.if western province and its people want to be on there own, who are we to say no. leave them they are just claiming their Rights
South Suda are voting on Sunday to decide whether to remain in Union with the North. I think the same should apply to Western province. Lets have refrendum to decide whether this animal called Zambia should remain a unitary state or we all go our different ways.Like someone@79 has said you dont need copper to prosper. UK has no minerals/mines but they even able to give us grants.
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Uhu…..Blogers after Barotse army….I rest my words i feel you satisfied with words of wisdom…honestly aint scared of anybody in this world only GOD my creater not (KAMUNU ILUKI WA MILILI)…The truth hurts….We not secessionist..GRZ is just panniking over a simple though senstice agreement..BA64 is about State within a State..Simple…but if the agreement is honored why forcing our self into a marriage that doesnt bare any fruits… hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahaa..kekeekkeeekek..Kono LINJA(DOGS) ze zasehisa Bati!!!!!!!!! Rot n Hell…
We all love peace…peace is a fruit from war….We are a disciplined clan, thus why we have been tolerant for the past 46 years, We love to be called Zambians on conditions that our Human rights are protected by the Instrument that made it possible…BA. Nikatezi pili ninwe ka wine kaka….I will back to spill the vomit..Kofo..kofo kofo…coughing!!!!!!!
The trueth of the matter is that people of Barotseland are actually fighting for what was signed for .I amd LOZI by native and i know LOZI’S very well.Poeple with due respect to others.Please just allow them to have a meeting i can assure you ,it will be a peaceful meeting .The bigest problem is that the Government to what this matter discussed.
Nevertheless,it looks Lozi’s are ready to fight for what belongs to them without fear of any things if the Agreement was signed to scare us today and kill us .Please it be MUFANASAYE IMUTEBA. Antherone is that of Wachila Ngumbili Uke Mulipumu.
So please LOZI’S are ready i can see the government dont want us to discuse the Issue of Barotseland peacefully.
Bana Bapoho yensu Muyoyange Muchilane Wino Wino.
Country men & women fellow Zambians,
Following this discussion one wonders whether education is helping us or not. An issue that needs intellectuals to give solutions ends up in insults & insults. Let’s learn from USA & the UK. When it comes to dialogue, there is nothing else but dialogue. It’s pity that even the nkoyas have also joined in the insults. This is like a ‘Case study’ for those who have written a thesis before. What are the pros & cons? That is the only way we should go about the matter. Can you imagine if all the people who have commented on this matter were to be put in one room, you will expect nothing but blood shed. There is one thing most of us forget in a democratic environment; ‘every citizen has right of an opinion’. what is wrong is to suppress others and…
…….force them to worship your opinion. So let us all be advised to swallow other people’s opinions no matter how painful it might be. Dialogue is what Mandela, martin Luther etc taught us. Listen carefully before you talk because one word can destroy a nation. there has never been a winner in any war. Barotse Agreement is not the only major issue we have; we have the fight against HIV & AIDS, poverty in every corner of ZED, cronic corruption, energy etc. Nobody likes a silent dog, we want a dog to make noise so we can be warned of what is forth coming. Barotse Agreement Issue is just a good TEST of what we have been learning at Sch. Do we have WISE men in ZED? GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
#90 Can you show me where Nkoyas are insulting anybody? Please let us focus on facts. The Nkoyas are simply focusing on their interests within Western Province as natives of that area.
In your opinion, the BA64 is a major issue but in reality, it is just a dying dream that is been kept alive by unrealistic and self centred individuals who somehow fail to see the flaws of the BA64.
I am sure the Litunga is meeting the VP so that one of his relatives can be given some high political job in the Zambian government, that is what is BRE is good at, lobbying for their own (lozis) and yet at the same time spread propaganda claiming that all tribes in Western Province are one when this is clearly far from the truth.
#92 you are right on the nail. Thats why I say we cannot fight for someone’s good, what unity is there in western province when other people or royal families are the ones who enjoy favours without working for them. For God’s sake I cannot labour for someone to benefit, other royal families are working hard to better the living standards of their subjects while ours called the Litunga just sits there to benefit from his subjects.
agreement ni agreement.atleast make people understand the meaning and implication if that agreement were to be respected.times change.people now want to kno.
#92 When you say BA64 is a small issue it means u haven’t head or seen wat has transpired in WP so far. Pliz don’t ever call an issue where violence has been registered a ‘small issue’. HIV & AIDS started wt one person infecting another. Now it is a major concern world wide. May I also advise you never to use tribe to fight for a cause. We have one Zed one nation. Talk about your Constituency & not your tribe. That’s why wise pipo are advocating 4 decentralisation & not tribalism. Let’s all change our language & start talking about towns, areas, regions, constituences where we live in when it comes to social & economic development. Sory 4 wrongly accusing Nkoyas 2 have joined in the wagon of insults. GOD BLESS ZED.
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