UNITED Party for National Development (UPND) president Hakainde Hichilema has announced his party’s withdrawal from its ill-fated pact with the Patriotic Front (PF) and declared that he will stand as presidential candidate in this year’s elections under the UPND.
Mr Hichilema said the UPND will also field candidates in all parliamentary constituencies and wards during this year’s general elections.
Featuring on Joy FM Radio’s Tikambilane live programme in Lusaka on yesterday, Mr Hichilema wondered what he should be doing in the PF-UPND pact when “somebody” has already killed it.
“The issue of the pact does not arise any more. I mean, if somebody has decided to kill the pact, what should I be doing?” he asked.
In an apparent reference to PF president Michael Sata, Mr Hichilema said it is unacceptable and inhumane in the modern world for someone to bully and intimidate his colleagues, and that political leaders with such behaviour should not be allowed into public office.
He condemned the PF’s unilateralism, and described as disgusting accusations by Mr Sata that he is a tribalist during the recent Mporokoso parliamentary by-election campaigns.
“I read an article in the press where my pact partner was saying Hakainde is a tribalist. That was disgusting; that is propaganda meant to discredit,” Mr Hichilema said.
He said the pact was formed with the main aim of uniting the people of Zambia, winning this year’s elections and the provision of better services to the people.
Mr Hichilema said Zambia belongs to all its citizens, regardless of where they live and it is important for people to understand one another because it is the only way to maintain peace in the country.
Responding to callers who wanted to know why a pact presidential candidate has not yet been chosen, and why this was not done from the alliance’s inception, Mr Hichilema said people should understand that there is always need to work with one another by learning to tolerate one another, and not to dominate or bully others.
[pullquote]“Instead of sitting to talk about how the pact government is going to run the country, somebody only agrees to meet on condition that he is going to be made pact president. I think that is talking upside down,” he said.[/pullquote]
The UPND president said there is a lot of propaganda going on against his party, orchestrated by the PF, which has made it difficult for the pact to make progress.
“Instead of sitting to talk about how the pact government is going to run the country, somebody only agrees to meet on condition that he is going to be made pact president. I think that is talking upside down,” he said.
Mr Hichilema said there has never been commitment from the side of Mr Sata and his party to talk about serious national issues for the good of the country.
He said it is unfortunate that the people who are now expressing disappointment on the problems brewing in the pact want to also pile the blame on UPND when they know well that such problems are coming from the PF.
Mr Hichlema said there is no way UPND can go into government with PF without first discussing and agreeing on how the two parties are going to run the country because the two parties will be quarrelling everyday and will become a nuisance to Zambians once in power.
He said UPND recently received a letter from the PF saying it was not going to deal with its pact partner if the former did not discipline its national youth chairman Joe Kalusa.
“Now, should I write a letter back that we won’t deal with PF until you discipline Wynter Kabimba? Should I write a letter like that? I haven’t written because that is degenerating matters,” he said.
[pullquote]“Now, should I write a letter back that we won’t deal with PF until you discipline Wynter Kabimba? Should I write a letter like that? I haven’t written because that is degenerating matters,” he said.[/pullquote]
Mr Hichilema said there is need to get to the table and talk things through instead of writing letters of that kind.
“There are a lot of undisciplined people in PF. They are known, and if I respond in that manner, we are destroying the pact,” he said.
“We have now come to conclude that our colleagues did not want us to discuss how we are going to run the country. By 2010, we should have had a common manisfesto on how we would run the country,” he said.
Mr Hichilema said even if the issue of presidential candidate was to be tabled at the very beginning of the pact, it would not have been possible to make progress because PF has never shown commitment to dialogue on the matter.
“So, even if the people want us to choose the candidate, how can we do it? You stand up, if you’re talkative, if you’re a bully in a meeting and say I am the president from now own, is that what you wanted?” he said.
He said Zambians must understand that whatever politicians do should be done with seriousness, mutual respect and with a mind to serve the people rather than serving themselves as leaders.
“And for me, as Hakainde, I won’t be part of the team that wants to be in government if they are not willing to agree on how they will run to serve the people of Zambia. What do they want to do in government? They want to do what they are doing now?” he asked.
[pullquote]“And for me, as Hakainde, I won’t be part of the team that wants to be in government if they are not willing to agree on how they will run to serve the people of Zambia. What do they want to do in government? They want to do what they are doing now?” he asked.[/pullquote]
When contacted for a comment over the matter, both Mr Sata and Mr Kabimba said they will react to the UPND’s withdrawal from the pact when it writes their party an official notification.
On the issue of the PF demanding to have Mr Kalusa disciplined as a condition for working with UPND, Mr Sata said all his party asked for in its letter was an apology and nothing else.
“There was nothing for them to dramatise the Kalusa issue. We shall react when they are brave enough to write to us,” Mr Sata said.
[pullquote]On the issue of the PF demanding to have Mr Kalusa disciplined as a condition for working with UPND, Mr Sata said all his party asked for in its letter was an apology and nothing else.[/pullquote]
Mr Hichilema’s remarks have literally dealt the final blow to the tottering PF-UPND pact, which has for months been on life support.
The two partners have been embroiled in endless wrangles over a number of issues, including the choice of a common candidate and how to harmonise their manifestos.
Recently, Mr Sata wrote the UPND saying his party had stopped dealing with it until Mr Kalusa apologises to him for allegedly insulting him in the media but the former has refused to force its official to meet the PF leader’s demand.
Before that, the PF dramatically revealed contents of a letter written by UPND chairman for international affairs Clive Chirwa in which he made a number of proposals, including that on the pact presidency, at a press briefing.
Mr Hichilema refuted the proposals the same day, and accused Mr Kabimba, who had addressed the briefing, of being mischievous.
The PF hit back by backing Mr Kabimba, saying his press briefing had had the full backing of the party.
The UPND has also written the PF, asking for a national council meeting to iron out contentious issues, but the latter has rebuffed the overture, saying it will respond to the letter at its own pace.
The two parties have been openly campaigning for their respective presidents separately for this year’s presidential elections, while Mr Sata has also announced that the PF will field its own candidates in all the constituencies.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
MMD has already won the presidential elections:(
HH, we told you but your arrogance, N’way better late. Good luck
This is a true test of leadership. If you aint got it, you aint got it. No amount of money or mouth can give you leadership. It has to be who you truly are, and it will show in due course.
Lesson for imiti iikula. Imiti yampako naipwo kupya.
There was no way a progressive party could commit fornication with the veneral diseased PF/Kaponya party.
If its true then this guy is foolish
HH is wrong. He should have played second fiddle and he would have taken over presido in due course. Sata is 100 years old only one term is good. The objective is change government but I assume our Tonga bull feels he could be elected. Aka loba ilyuma mu ma elections. Bane perpare yourselves for another old fashioned ruling of 4 years with RB !!
HH you are really a man of iron. Tough tested. You follow your consciency. You have exposed how uncivilised the PF is. PF is a mixture of MMD and UNIP. Imagine what kind of a government can come out of PF. Chimbwi no plan. We want to hear from PF what they have for the Zambian people if they form government. Sata is a Bully so is RB. VOTE UPND FOR CHANGE.
It’s not true!! Useless MMD propaganda as usual. Desperation has reached alarming levels in MMD camp. The Lifwekelos’ efforts are in vain,hence panic.
Obama did not come from no where and stood for presidency. He was a tested congressman under the democrats. He did not jump onto presidential race because he has money no. But because he is a tested person and he was a right choice for presidence. Unlike HH, he has never been in public office and his claim that he will bring meaningful change to Zambia is not something I can be bought for. I don’t know what HH has achieved in public. I don’t even know the toilet ge has built for the public.
We have had so many educated and young people who became presidents and have done nothing good. E.g what has Kabila done in Congo which we can say that yes a young leader has developed apart from war and dictatorship. I for one can’t trust HH. I would appreciate if HH worked as a minister to start.
Interesting turn of events. But all this could have been avoided HH and Sata if you were not both power hungry. HH who was giving you advice to work with Sata, on what basis did you reach that conclusion. In the future think fully of the consequences of such actions. You truly owe Zambians like me an apology, because I think you were ill advised, and in the long run you lost our support because you had killed the essence of what UPND meant to us, by going to bed with a known dictator whose position changes like the way the sun sets and rises. Welcome back to your senses. You need to combine forces with people of similar standing not just for the sake of removing MMD, and when you have removed MMD, what next? By the way, where is that MP Chizuka? He was very right on this unholy pact.
picture of upcoming government thieves
I hope that like me, my fellow Zambians will vote for a party that is showing maturity and has been consistent in its national interests. Populist parties with no agenda should not be given the day of light to rule, let those who have well articulated national agendas finally begin to carry the engines of development forward. Vote wisely, vote for a party that is not just telling what they are are going to do for the country but how they are actually going to achieve their goals
Very interesting. Zambians are watching and they will have a final say.
Wow this would have never worked. All for the better though UPND should consider teaming up with the MMD thats the only way they will eventually come into power, I would pick that pact any day over the one with PF,it was two very different parties with different goals. PF and its leaders are too uncivilized and would be sending our country to ruins.:)>-
Everybody knows Sata is a chief hooligan.He thrives on hooliganism and his followers in PF including Kabimba cant even cough.What beat my intelligence was HH’s decision to work with Sata with his kokai C.V and expect to prevail.
So, you were behind your Party members insulting PF so that you could provoke a situation where you would look like you are Politically Clean? UPND and you, HH in particular have been issuing negative and derogatory remarks against PF, and you think it’s PF you will be punished by dividing votes and gifting MMD leadership? It’s the common Zambian that will suffer. Us Zambians will encourage the Col. Panji way of the common man setting the agenda as to who will govern. UPND is as power hungry as PF, so don’t be absurd by hiding behind the NED. Surely God will punish those who have truly betrayed the Zambian people, UPND or PF. May God’s will prevail…… Very ANNOYED..
Thank you very much, we can live with RB not tribalists. Hope this dude rot in opposition or get swallowed by MMD. I thought Chibamba Kanyama gave this danderhead a timely advice on the need of co-existing and accept junior partner’s role but i was wrong, he’s a ‘chumbu mushololwa’. This marks the beginning of the end of a tiny Tonga club. Good riddance we’ve waited too long for the demise of this good for nothing Tonga tribe Society.
Well, at least it wont be a case of not having tried. They tried and it’s not too late to concentrate on campaigns. Just hope it will not just be full of mud-slinging but who am I kidding, mudslinging happens all over, even in the U.S. May the lucky person win!
Very interesting developing but will take it with a lot of caution especially coming from Daily Mail.
I eagerly await PF response
Mistake by HH if that is true, anyway we will vote PF.
I SAW IT COMING TO THIS STAND STILL LAST YEAR NOVEMBER’2011.
VJ SAID PACTS HAVE NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF GREED.
CONGRATULATIONS TO GEORGE KUNDA WHO HAS BEING BLOWING THE VUVUZELA!
Zambia should declare a ” A Day Of National Mourning”.
T o say the least, this is CIVILISED S.T.U.P.I.D.I.T.Y……… Zambians will have the last say.
MMD you have won the elections very without any malpractice. UPND or PF should not even suspect rigging. Reasoning is simple. Where ever PF comes first, MMD is second and with minimal margin and whereever UPND comes first MMD is second even here margin is difference. We should not even forget that MMD has strong holds. Congratulations RB for being given another fresh mandate to rule. Now please sort out corruptions in govt institutions like judiciary, etc. Everyone can see that corruption is done in broad day light. Spread development is all provinces and improve working conditions. Chinese companies for example have pathetic working evironment because the see MMD govt has easily corrupt. Please for once resuscitate peoples confidence in your leadership by making brave changes in your…
Mwanya Bane @#9……VJ, Munkombwe, William Banda, Sikota Wina are as tested as Sata. Are they good for plot one?
Tongaz are mechanical . They work like programmed computers. Thats not intelligence. On their own they never produce a president. Let alone a vice president
Good GAME HH ..upnd has the same chance as anyone…PF and MMD will split votes, and the political mood has changed, we now who are power hungrey (PF) and who the true leaders are..
VIVA HH you have my vote!
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This guy is power hungry….he has lost presidential elections twice already, can’t he get that the majority of Zambians do not want him as president!….This goes out to SATA as well, RB’s association with thieves also disgusts me!
The UPND under Mazoka does not exist anymore, Its just a clique of Tongas who feel that they should run the country, Well they can run their so called UPND and keep it Tonga, maybe call it H-H-PND if they want………..
Viva HH!!! UPND for Gvt!!
Game is between Bembaz and Ngoniz . Tongaz are just wastin ballot papers.
I wonder why people hate anything touched by Tongas. Is it the fear of the unknown? If you dont want Tongas then dont use them. I am sure most of you that post anti Tonga Posting your intention is to create rivally between Tongas and Bembas. My question is why? What do you stand to gain? Leave Tongas and Bembas alone. They are good people full of respect for each other. Dont hide in the name of Bembas to attack Tongas or the other way round. Social Networks like this one are dangerouse if wrongly used. You may start a fire that you will fail to put out. You ll be answerable to your God for your deeds when your time comes on the last day. TAKE CARE.
On ““I read an article in the press where my pact partner was saying Hakainde is a tribalist. That was disgusting; that is propaganda meant to discredit,” Mr Hichilema said…And for me, as Hakainde, I won’t be part of the team that wants to be in government if they are not willing to agree on how they will run to serve the people of Zambia. What do they want to do in government? They want to do what they are doing now?”” this is the truth that PF mediocre-Kaponyas and their PF vuvuzela must understand. Well done HH for cutting serpentine Sata MC to his size and PF to their real position in modern day society.
As for the article, it must have also expressed HH’s position on the fact that he can not partner with MMD that he said yesterday.
Be blest and vote for UPND/HH…
PF and UNPD are fools. they think they can win elections on their own. MMD will win this elections no matter what. I wonder what leaders are these two. they can’t sit and solve this simple issue. Banatupanga a ma busy ya upuba. Ma rubbish. I am withdrawing my support for them.
Dont argue with a tonga because people wont notice the difference. I rest my case
Wawa HH-UPND period.
# 29 dangerous thinking!
Very dangerous sign indeed … fighting before you even get into govt!!!!! Can hardly imagine what would happen if pact formed govt!!!
Sata did not just ask for an apology from Kalusa, he gave a condition in the letter too. He said he was only going to talk to UPND if Kalusa apologised or UPND disciplines him. The old man has short memory, he easily pretends to have forgotten what he said previous day.
Maestro,
Sir you are very biased in your commentary and you are very discriminatory. Today I read your comments on evry post about HH and your comments are Jaw dropping. I though I would address you sir. I am Ila and lived on the copperbelt most of my life until I went to school in Lsk and subsquently moved to the US. Understand Sir that not all of us from the copperbelt are Bemba’s, you have attacked us and talked down on her people from the copperbelt liked a good command of the English language and how we are non-conformists. I beg to disagree with your little tinder box world view. We are one zambia and all are equal, you my brother for years on this blog have been a strong proponent of UPND and all its ideals, which is your inalieanable right, but please cut the discrimination.
There is no way sober-minded, right thinking and forthright Zambians can partner with Sata. It is unfathomable how intellectuals; some with PhDs can trust Sata. No wonder Zambia is deep in poverty. Unless we discard this stone-age mentality of supporting individuals without any sober genealogy of achievement, wisdom and uprightness, we will continue to be a highly dependent economy. HH, you should have known abjout Sata even before you accepted that phone-call. you should have gone to the ZNBC archives to retrieve the true character of this PF leader….common Zambia; with due respect to the gallant men and women of this country, let us be reasonable for once!
Zambia Daily Mail has failed to convince me … why not quote the actual words of withdraw which HH used? why???? Can anyone here convince me?
Well at least we know the truth now..and please Sata stop ‘waiting’ for official notification we know your games…we shall meet during the elections…
Lets just split the country into three – 1 for MMD, 1 for PF and one for UPND.
Maestro,
contionously you have also called Sata Serpent and many other names, which is ok and as a political follower you have the right to do it but I’d urge a little humane respect. You Sir have on several occasion said it is time that the Tonga’s lead, maybe it is time that someone else lead but does it surely have to be a tribal thing? Sir Mr. Maestro what scares me then is that your party ( which is factually 85% Tonga) will forever filled Tongas and this is evident at how Sakwiba and Chisanga were hounded out of the party after Great Mazoka died ( a man that did not himself discriminate). Sir, I urge you to speak politics from now own and cut your regionalism and hate you hobour for other people. Good for you if you have good command of the English language but dare to be fair!
viva H.H 2011,,,,FOR SURE UPND IS WELL STRUCTURED PARTY,,,AND ITS MANIFESTOLS ARE FOR THE PEOPLE,,,PRO-POOR POLICIES…VIVA H.H,,,2011 STATEHOUSE
30 ZONDA MU TONGA UZALEMA greetings, firstly I love your blog name. Even Satan who was called Lucifer hated Jesus Christ and the rest of the Godhead in heaven (see Isaiah 14:14 of the Holy Scriptures) and those who envy the Tonga people just have jealous for our success and respectable dispositions in the same manner the devil envied the Godhead and tried to put himself to be like the Most High — God.
Secondly, your “I wonder why people hate anything touched by Tongas. Is it the fear of the unknown? If you dont want Tongas then dont use them“, my take is that we, Tongas, work hard to get whatever God blesses us with because he hate lies and insults. In this game, the haters are not fighting us Tongas alone but our God, who created us. Theirs is a losing…
I TOLD YOU THAT THESE OPPOSITION WILL RIG ELECTIONS AND MMD WILL WIN ON A CLEAR SWEEP THROUGH GROUND…..CONGRATS MMD FOR WINNING..WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO RULE US BUT THE OPPOSITION HAVE GONE AGAINST OUR WISHES AS PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA
politcs is a dirty game. GUYS REMEMBER TO USE THE TRUTH AS THE DETERGENT TO WASH THESE GUYS CLEAN WHEN VOTING THIS YEAR.
VERY VERY VERY GOOD NEWS. …Sata litole
30 ZONDA MU TONGA UZALEMA … Theirs is a losing battle. And God, the Creator of everything, will reward them with their bitterness just like he chased the devil called Satan from heaven.
What is interesting is that the people who feel that the insults being hauled on the Tonga people are unfair will join the Tongas in comforting us, Tongas. This will be to the detriment of the tribalist who are now well known by any sensible world citizen — who are lead in Zambia by their chief tribalist serpent Sata MC who is good at pointing Southerners are tribalists as well as Lozis and others with one finger while 3 fingers point back at himself.
In the words of HH’s words on Joy FM “when you begin to bullu other people the result you get is resistance“.
Be blest all…
What is this article – no source. Written at State House?
The end of HH. Honestly ba UPND have money to waste fielding a presidential candidate who can not win on national level! period!!!
The other day one of UPND empty heads here said ”they’ll concentrate on the 2016 because they got no chance of unsettling MMD this year”. He was very right but 2016 wont be any easier for tribalists because unless they go flat out popping out babies like rats and give them chicken feed so that they are ready to vote by 2016 otherwise the wait for tribalists would be longer.
Maestro still a confused tribalist working hard to keep our country in the stone age…
I told my bemba tribal cousins that this pact you are making can not work….Tongas are very difficult people to work with, even in class we had them ba mambala and the good part is that a bemba chap was the best in our class and i was coming out second though i am not happy at all…..but these AISHAS were very self centered, they were only found in groups of tonga,,,,infact in class they had their own row of tongas…amambala!!!
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43 chile power greetings, on your “Maestro, contionously you have also called Sata Serpent and many other names, which is ok and as a political follower you have the right to do it but I’d urge a little humane respect“, this is why I always write that you PF bemba-Kaponyas are dull. Firstly, whatever I have written about serpent Sata is very true.
About the word ‘serpentine’ you dull character, Is it me who called Sata as ‘Cobra’? What is the difference between a serpent and a Cobra? Do a bit of research before you come here to expose your ignorance.
Challenge me on anything I have written about serpent Sata MC and PF, and I will be happy to lecture you to understand my standpoint. Consult Chand CHIIMBA III’s series on ZNBC TV also.
Be blest all.
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Matt…
It was only matter of time
Viva HH, you are sharp, everyone of us was able to read between the lines of kabimba and his PF thinking, this is there downfall, Sata and PF will never rule this country. As for UPND the future is bright….HH for president 2011
Good move HH. Remember that MMD and UPND have similar manifestos making them potential partners. Talk to RB and Milupi and see how you can have a marriage of conviniency just to take the Satanism selfishness out of Zambian politics. I am sure Lubinda and Sikota will be reconciled back too. RB mulilo sure, HH mulilo, Milupi mulilo. 2011 the year Satana Repented. I am coming to witness Satana’s baptism. Zambia will be a real christian nation afterwards. My vote with me.
LETs declare MMD candidate as the duly elected president for the republic of zambia..no time and resource wasting here. Why should we participate in voting when we already know the results Ma rubbish.
Good show HH. Very consistent and focussed Keep it up. You have a bright future in politics.Litumezi bondate.
From the inception UPND Namwala MP Major Robbie Chizyuka warned HH that the pact wont work. Chizyuka became unpopular within the UPND rank and file for his intelligent analysis. I remember in one of his comments, Chizyuka stated that UPND and PF can not work together because both have different manifestos which outline different policies. How can you go in a campaign field under one umbrella with opposing manifestos? HH seems to have a short memory. He is now crying over the same issue which his MP warned him about, the manifestos. Please HH be brave enough to go back to Chizyuka and apologise. Make the MP a hero for his accurate fortune telling.
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You have a point my dear. Allowing PF and its selfish leaders would be the end to the young democracy. HH is young and bright guy he has chances to rule Zambia. Let him just talk to RB and Milupi just to baptize the devil abit and pave way for young leadership. Kuyumyayumya mwana baama.
Wow ofcourse it was obvious the Pact wouldn’t work but what is scary is the revelation that the opposition have NO PLAN on how they will run the country if elected into power.People despite our sensationalism we need to be objective and put these leaders to task to explain their policies to the people.We Zambian youth are tired of these elderly leaders insulting each other instead of addressing issues.
John Phiri, did they radios on their shoulders? ITT Supersonic 2 Band.
Maestro, Bembas are not Kaponyas. Have some civility. Zambia has refused to be led by a Tonga because of your kind of insults. HH is not doing this for his benefit but to spoil the prospects of Hon Sata winning. We all know that HH will never win anything but always come third.
That is the reason i support HH! And that is why people in North Western love HH– he is smart- he has great judgement and he is decisive.
I have constantly said no serious politician can enter into an alliance with Sata and it succeeds. Sata has an intellect of a 2 year old who believes in weird type of politics. I wonder whter Sata has political advisors and strategists. As one of the many people that has written emails to HH warning him about the red flags from PF, i say thank you Mr. HH for listening. And you msana wanzili who is insulting tongas, i guess life is tough for you there in the UK— doing those weird jobs. Insulting tongas wont help matters.
John Phiri, did they carry radios on their shoulders? ITT Supersonic 2 Band.
Maestro, Bembas are not Kaponyas. Have some civility. Zambia has refused to be led by a Tonga because of your kind of insults. HH is not doing this for his benefit but to spoil the prospects of Hon Sata winning. We all know that HH will never win anything but always come third.
43 chile power, on your “Understand Sir that not all of us from the copperbelt are Bemba’s, you have attacked us and talked down on her people from the copperbelt liked a good command of the English language and how we are non-conformists“, how many times have I distinguished between a Bemba-by-tribe person and a PF bemba-Kaponya in order to help you come to terms with your terrible understanding of things?
In case you missed your social studies in general and history in particular, Bemba by-tribe people come from the southern parts of the Northern Province of Zambia, and not from the Copperbelt Pfovince. Not even from Luapula Province. CB is 4others.
How many pathetic PF bemba-Kaponyas have you advised to stop insulting Tongas on this blog?
Be blest all…
I told you guys that you would have put a wrong person into office. Sata is not the right man for plot 1 because of his attitude of chameleonism. This time you are seeing for your self why this leader is just good at talking.
IWE CHI JONH PHIRI YOU ARE JUST A KAPONYA OLD MAN,,AND ALSO SUFFERING FROM HEART ATTACK,,,,JUST LIKE YOUR SATA…AND WIFE,,,,AND KABIMBA,,IMWE BABEMBA,,YOU ARE TOO MUCH SELFISH YOU JUST WANT EVERYTHING TO YOURSELF,,,H.H CANNOT REDUCED ..HE HAS TO WIN THIS YEAR’S ELECTIONS,,VIVA H.H 2011 STATE HOUSE
I am sure RB is smilling….I can easily predict the results, RB, then PF and as usual in third place UPND. Shame on you. I was so ready to vote for the PACT but i guess its no voting for me coz i know that ala b has won.
————-That is the reason i support HH! And that is why people in North Western love HH– he is smart- he has great judgement and he is decisive.
I have constantly said no serious politician can enter into an alliance with Sata and it succeeds. Sata has an intellect of a 2 year old who believes in weird type of politics. I wonder whter Sata has political advisors and strategists. As one of the many people that has written emails to HH warning him about the red flags from PF, i say thank you Mr. HH for listening. And you msana wanzili who is insulting tongas, i guess life is tough for you there in the UK— doing those weird jobs. Insulting tongas wont help matters.
LT,too many stories of similar headlines of late. Can you wait when there’s official communication about the pull out then you report with such an headline?Meanwhile report such news items under different headlines. The man it appears is simply complaining and wanting to get the attention of PF so it’s a bit premature to say the Pact is broken.Needless to say the Pact doesn’t seem to have a future!
# 20 is right…………………….Mistake by HH if that is true, anyway we will vote PF
LT,too many stories of similar headlines of late. Can you wait when there’s official communication about the pull out then you report with such a headline?Meanwhile report such news items under different headlines. The man it appears is simply complaining and wanting to get the attention of PF so it’s a bit premature to say the Pact is broken.Needless to say the Pact doesn’t seem to have a future!
Maestro,
You continue on the Tonga-Bemba tirade, Zambia is bigger than you Tongas and Bembas. I have advised many Bembas too about the need to stay above tribe. You seem to be a strong believer in your tinder box of how life shouuld be. Please cut your tribalisim because it has no place in this world. Secondly on your posts you said these Bembas from the copperbelt and or folks from the copperbelt do not want to conform to other languages and or norms except Bemba culture and lanuguage. Sir you seem not to understand that Zambia is not only for you two groups. Right now you sound like the KKK and black Panther. Be Objective and cut being tibalisitic, you sound pathetic in this day and age to peddle on that.
THE FACT IS……..YOU AND NOBODY ELSE, BUT YOU HH IS RESIPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS…..
YOUR INTERST IN POLITICS IS NOTHING BUT THE POSITION OF PRESIDENT……YOUR UNREASONABLE DEMANDS AND YOUR IMPATIENCE (TYPICAL OF UNDER FIVES) HAVE LED TO THE BREAK-UP OF THIS PACT……..YOUR OWN MAN, PROF. CLIVE CHIRWA PRESENTED EXCELLENT PROPOSALS TO MAKE THIS PACT THING MOVE FORWAD, BUT COZ SATA WAS PROPOSED TO BE PRESIDENT…YOU SOPOILED THE SHOW……….RIGHT NOW YOU ARE NOW CONSIDERING ALIGNING WITH MMD COZ YOU HAVE NO SPINE TO STAND ON YOUR OWN…….BUT THE QUESTION IS: WILL RB TOLERATE YOUR INSATIABLE APPETITE FOR PRESIDENCY?………..BYE BYE POLIO, BYE BYE UPND….. IFWE BA PF IT’S LIFE AS USUAL….NI DON’T KUBEBA MAYO!!!!!!!!!
Limpo 59//
You have a point my dear. I Dumbwiza Wangulanu being the Returning Officer for Zambia as a whole, hereby declare Rupiah Bwezani Banda and Hakainde Milupi as duly elected President and Vice Presidents respectively, following the changes in our new consititution. Yeeeeeeeeeeh. RB mulilo. RB mulilo. Satana walila… walila, Satana walila … walila.
Bembas have proved to be kaponyas through the cobra and kafupi therefore we dont need to vote for a Bemba again otherwise we will continue with rb or upnd.
43 chile power, following your “Understand Sir that not all of us from the copperbelt are Bemba’s, you have attacked us and talked down on her people from the copperbelt liked a good command of the English language and how we are non-conformists“, PF bemba-Kaponyas iare the likes of 17 msana wanzili, 53 John Phiri and 65 Kalos2121 previously called Kalos2020 as well as others who think that bemba-by speech PF Kaponyas from the Copperbelt are more supreme that Bemba-by-tribe people from Mpika and any other Zambian tribe person apart from themselves who have formed an additional language to the 72 tribe Languages that we had in ’64.
If you are serious, kindly advise PF bemba-Kaponyas to stop insulting Southerners in Zed.
Be blest all…
msana you are are devil who is full of hate nowonder the world is suffering because of *****s like you.Sahme on your tribal remarks i hope you rot in hell.
If you lose this time around,do not stand on UPND ticket as a president.We will pack you in political museum for future reference.It is an obvious case that MMD is winning.Not that people are love MMD but because of your selfishness.We are watching you.And watching critically.You are weak leaders who do not think the suffering of the masses.Rest in political peace!!!
Zonda MuTonga uzalema.abash thieves,criminals..! state house is not a priority for Sothern proivnce but good governance and welfair of zambians. Unfortunately ,these thugs are the ones in the forefront flocking to Mighty SP for survival in the name of buying goats,maize etc—fake traderes running away from their impovourished provinces.
I am in Lusaka and I heard HH speak yesterday on Joy FM radio and he is out of the pact. he is right now talking to milupi and elias to see if they can create a new and better pact
Good move HH. Remember that MMD and UPND have similar manifestos making them potential partners. Talk to RB and Milupi and see how you can have a marriage of conviniency just to take the Satanism selfishness out of Zambian politics. I am sure Lubinda and Sikota will be reconciled back too. RB mulilo sure, HH mulilo, Milupi mulilo. 2011 the year Satana Repented. I am coming to witness Satana’s baptism. Zambia will be a real christian nation afterwards. My vote with me.
Amen, Amen
I say Amen again and again!!
Anyways at the rate at which things were going, it wud hav been a miracle if this so called pact chakuti ever worked and successfully formed govt. Just as well mwe!!!!
Ba Daddy ba RB…iye nayo!
73 chile power, following your “Please cut your tribalisim because it has no place in this world. Secondly on your posts you said these Bembas from the copperbelt and or folks from the copperbelt do not want to conform to other languages and or norms except Bemba culture and lanuguage” you are just a danderhead for a person who reasons would have tried to understand my explanations to you over all my correct writings on this blog and elsewhere.
Have a good day even in your delusion.
However, those PF bemba-Kaponyas who believe that they are little gods to be able to predict that a Tonga by tribe person will never rule Zambia are in for a rude shock — just like PF’s chief tribalist Sata, who called HH under-five and tribalist is in right now — for God is great…
Its practically impossible for an old bully to suddenly become a democrat in old age when he has never been one all life long. Why should we be cheated as Zambians that Mr.Sata one of the most inconsistent politicians Zambia has ever recorded can become a democrat all of a sudden. Sure we need him in the opposition to create checks and balances not in State House where him and his supporters feel he can be. He has already bypassed his useful in this regard,must swallow his pride and accept that his time is gone.
YOU CHI- DONCHI KUBEBA,,GO TO SCHOOL MY DEAR,,,,YOU ARE ALSO LIKE SUFFERING FROM HEART ATTACK AS YOU FOOL BOOS SATA AND FAMILY ARE SUFFERING FROM,,,BEMBAS ARE TOO SELFISH,,,SATA DOESN’T KNOW TO SUPPORT A FELLOW LEADER,,JUST WANTS TO BE PRAISED WITH HIS CROOKEDNESS,,,,THIS WE WANT A YOUNG LEADER H.H 2011
This is goood news this needed now so that we focus our efforts on campaigning than dealing with kalusa. Now this is the end of HH. will now face rb head on…..bye bye upnd
This is goood news this was needed now so that we focus our efforts on campaigning than dealing with kalusa. Now this is the end of HH. will now face rb head on…..bye bye upnd
# 53, one so-called John Chiphiri… What is your beef against Tongas??? Thus far I have ignored your tribal tirades but push has come to shove… You loathe Southerners with a passion that is so personal I can only guess that you crossed paths with a Tonga Bull over a woman or business deal… Wake up and smell the coffee, this is the 21st Century where a blackman is living in a house that is so white! You also need serious counselling as your brain has been washed with tribal detergent…
The unfortunate part about all this is that HH is an unknown quantity and does not have a convincing and saleable personality…. so it is like we really have no other option apart from King Cobra and RB, like that child who said to his friend, “Tails I win, heads you lose!” Zambia twapapata, who will help us?
If in this life only you have hope in Politics, you are of all men most miserable.
HH was all interested in being picked as President for the Pact. He and his misleading hitchmen have just realised that they can not dribble the old man on that and hence the pull out now. Anyway good lucky for him-he will never test being in Govt, this was his chance. We shall see who is who very soon-at least we have got four provinces under our belt-CB, LK,NT and Luapula. And he, what has he got, only one. Sata only needs to persuade Milupi to come aboard, and MMD can fall.
HEADLINES AGAIN… LT, GROW UP!!!!
The country is dead! Just stick to RB and his MMD. Let them just steal for the next five years until we can find capable leaders to replace them. I can’t vote for either PF or UPND so I would rather stick to what I already know, MMD. Until we find capable leaders let’s not experiment with this weak opposition that serves self interest.
My only confort is that who ever takes the Presidency, whether its Banda or Sata, Tongaland will continue on its forward pathways of development. Just go to Magobo and see what is happening the Community Economic Sugar Empowerment Program being propelled by the Banda Government. By 2015 the area between Kafue and Maza will have changed and became a hub of sugar production managed by the local community. This is because people there are highly receptive to winds of development change. This program according to the Zambian Sugar Policy will expand to even upto Choma. So be Sata or Banda we will conqure the battle of economic development. Ask Katele he will tell you. I sometimes think that actually if HH would take up the Presidency he would ignore Tongaland. So VIVA MC / RB WHO EVER WHO CARE
viva PF/UPND pact
Number 29 you are speaking like a man with a heart of Zambia
Gook luck UPND you have my vote…..
I have just counterchecked the facts with UPND insiders who confirmed that this story was twisted by DM after HH demanded respect and called for an end to bullying by PF colleagues in meetings for the Pact to succeed. So, don’t believe everything DM publishes because there seems to be an invisible hand controlling them in terms of what to write (usually aimed at further degenerating the already sour relations between the two Pact partners). I urge all contributors to triangulate data before making comments as some views are extreme and yet based on misinformation,.
Its not a matter of removing rb from office but be careful with the one you are entrusting in to plot one otherwise with just few months you may wish not to have elected such a one. Voting for sata is not good enough for mother Zambia thanks to the MMD for winning the previous elections.
#91. And you think Milupi can allow to be pushed around by Sata.
it makes sad reading when i think of zambian cheap politicians..they all wish for plot 1 at the end of the day, they are all power hungry and have no heart for us in the shit hole workikng our asses our to facilitate their travels and fatten their pockets….HH and Sata you have killed the only hope for zambia, if the pact doesn’t work, i see no reason of holding on to the ****ed up voters card…….
My advise to my fellow Zedians is that in as much as politicking is ou human right, life is all about you yourself. You are what you want to be. You will be what you want tomorrow if you invest in yourself today. You rip what you sow. What you call dirty is the cash that you will enjoy tomorrow. Take time to listen to a song by Daliso SANSHA. There is good message in there. The Work Culture of a Tonga is hinged on the above facts. Its not his / her fault that s/he is what s/he is. So please stop being JELOUSE of a Tonga. They reep what they saw.
Sata and HH you have killed us. Selfish individuals, mini chaps all you just want is to get to state house.
Why should i even waste my vote yet i know the foolish results.
# chile power
What is your damn problem you little Bemba fool? why are you debating on tribal lines? Devil in human form. We are sick and tired of that nonsense. why are you scared of Tongas and Lozis. Don’t divide our country if you have settled in US cleaning dishes and toilet if not sweeping roads as well ****** we. I curse you confuser devil who feels good when there is not peace. Peace be with you my brother.
To all tongas; dont take these tribal attacks seriously. the chimbuya is now between bembas and tongas
Mr Hichilema said there has never been commitment from the side of Mr Sata and his party to talk about serious national issues for the good of the country.
HH WOULD YOU HAVE GIVEN THE PRESIDENCY TO SATA? READ 2KINGS 3 V16 FF ON THE TWO WOMEN WHO BOTH CLAIMED ONE BABY
This is good news and my address is to all you UPND supporters because being MMD I have no time for Kaponyas. I will therefore try to reason with you my fellow intellectuals in UPND. HH is an intelligent man but even if u intelligent, u cant go talk to kaponyas about economics they wont understand. My humble appeal to H.H is make a pact with MMD. I will be frank that HH is better placed to lead this nation than our own RB despite me being MMD but I can assure HH that as long as he tries to be president from outside he will never rule this country because the majority of people who vote have a humble education. Do a “Mwanawasa” my friend. Come to MMD and when u have roots established and maybe even given the presidency in 2016, then stamp your authority.
I will VOTE for SATA because i want change. I wont go back to vote for RUPIAH because he is both UNIP & MMD & as far as a can see, the biggest dictator between the two is RUPIAH. im going forward becaus i want to experience something new, & that is give SATA the chance to show me wat he has to offer in the 5 years that he will be in office. afterwards, if im not impressed with him, I will VOTE for someone else. So for everyone that would prefer to continue suffering under RUPIAH jus because the PACT is no more, that is your choice…STOP insulting, STOP giving excuses & jes do what u have to do. Coz if you call someone a ‘serpent’ or ‘kaponya’ or ‘*****’ or whatever faul name, u are only showing us that that is only a reflection of urself and not the person u are naming!
@ 104 that kind of language is inhuman. The categorizing of an individual’s daily tasks which earns him or her a salary in a negative way is tantamount to discrimination. Lets blog maturely.
Point of correction we do not hate Tongas, what we hate is UPND as a party because some positions are reserved for Tongas only. They chased Sakwiba, Lubinda and chisanga as dogs and to us decent human beings that was totally unfair to treat people that worked their socks off to make UPND what it once was in that manner, therefore, in the spirit of fairness we normal people have resolved never to give tribalists licence to mistreat fellow human beings as pieces of crap. Much as we would love to send Banda back to Mutenguleni this year but it wont be the end of life he bounces back because at least he’s sponsored by a Tongas only-for-president-Party.
#110
meant: ……he’s not sponsored by……..
Maestro Hhehhehhehhe for 2011 would-b President of Zambia HH= CONTINUE DREAMING THAT HH WILL BE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE IN NAMWALA ukulakonka ingombe pamatako shileminyela ifi sushi!!!!! What have Bembas done to you? mwanya mapului yenu bafikala!
If you people from PF are saying youre popular and its the end of UPND..why are you hurt so much that the unpopular guy HH has left you????Bashikulu milage naiya….when forming pact did HH chnage his name to Hakainde bwalya??NO NO NO…today you call him tribal??this is the end of ba shikulu…2016 hahahahahaha katwishi…
Maestro Hhehhehhehhe for 2011 would-b President of Zambia HH= CONTINUE DREAMING THAT HH WILL BE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE IN NAMWALA ukulakonka ingombe pamatako shileminyela ifi sushi!!!!! What have Bembas done to you? mwanya mapuli yenu bafikala!
Some well informed sources have revealed that the UPND current president, Hakainde Hichilema, can not contest the presidency at their forthcoming party convention, having previously lost two elections. This is in accordance with the UPND constitution.The named source claims that HH may only be alowed to contest after 2012.
abash old politicians. Viva HH. real change.
#105 I think you are right though its not the true Bembas putting these postings. These are hibrid Bembas. True Bembas post with the Nation interest at heart. True Bembas are not Tribalist I live with them and I can witness to that. #110 Msana wanzili if you hate UPND then stick to attacking UPND and not a tribe. By using TONGA in your posting instead of UPND you are hardening our skins and we are forced to retaliate and I can see from the postings that you are used to flacid Tongas who do not retaliate. It pains you when people like mestro hit back with a 6 pound hammer. They are actually your creation so accept them.
Its sad, but history should have taught us what haooened to UDA, you cant want to bulldose others all the time you are in a an allinace, education is not all one requires even Rb is a degree holder but what has he done, there was no honesty in the pact,one part used to accept that they were smaller in size to the other, like Nicky creg did in UK, jst watch the space we hear billions were set aside by MMD for this cause,beneficiaries were some vocal MPs from HH’s camp who pretend to be doing things out of principle plus two chiefs from southern province now driving mercedes 7 series at Mndahill daily with PF rebels,sadly HH has fallen into the trap of his own MPs who he has failed to control, sad indeed. RB aluta continua………………
Well done HH, though long overdue still better late than never. This is a bold move taken by a presidential hopeful. The PACT with Grand Pa SATA has brought you backwards you should have been miles ahead but unfortunately you agreed to inter into what some of us have always called the marriage of “ inconvenience”. The UPND needs to move faster that light to unveil their manifesto and campaign in ernest for the upcoming tripartite elections. This will bring some sort of sanity to the politics of Zambia. W want politics based on issues and not individuals.
Its ok why ukupapa kwati chaiche
#114 Ayo ene amafi yang,ombe are the ones that make us what we are. We are proud of that amafi yang,ombe you detest. The economic engine of Tongaland biggins and ends with ayo ene amafi. If you are in Zambia my friend, every time you put milk in your tea just know that maybe the milk is contaminated with amafi yang’ombe. Every time you put a spoon of sugar from Mazabuka just know that in one way or another amafi yang’ombe emoyali. TONGAS HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BEMBAS. Tongas have supported Bembas from time prior to independence and we will continue supporting them for they are good people. But you people on this blog who pretend to be Bembas! KAYA MWE!! What do you want to prove kanshi?
HH indalama waiba shalikukusha umutwe Chika**….u cant win an election be realistic..nangu ni David -Goliath theory teifi mwe
:(( SELFISH LEADERS…blinded by brown envelops.myt as well vote for Bweziness!!
IF THIS IS TRUE THEN BA HH OR BA SATA HAVE NO HEART FOR US POOR ZAMBIANS. HH KNEW VERY WELL WHAT HE WAS DOING CONCERNING THE PACT. REMEMBER MAJOR CHIZYUKA?. THIS MAN WAS CALLED ALL SORTS OF NAMES.
BA HH OR BA SATA HAVE NO CASH PROBLEMS. TODAY THEY WILL SAY THIS AND TOMORROW SOMETHING ELSE. RIGHT NOW I AM SO ANNOYED. RB WILL TAKE THE DAY DAY.
RB IS DINING WITH CHILUBA ETC. LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF CHILUBAS ACCUMULATED WEALTH. WHERE ON EARTH CAN A ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS FOR CLOTHES, SHOES ETC AND ON TOP OF THAT ACUIRE ESTATE PROPERTIES AND WE ARE THERE GETTING INSULTS FROM RB THAT CHILUBA WAS A GOOD DAMN PRESIDENT.
WE HAVE LOST A CHANCE
To Bemba bloggers; Please if any one of you did something wrong to Maestro Hhehhehhehhe apologize for our nations sake. You may have bullied him at school or screwed his wife etc but this man is bitter. Imagine HH becoming President and Maestro Hhehhehhehhe is given some senior position in government or HH never becomes President at all. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe will revolt. The anger in him for the Bembas is frightening. I m sure he has told his kids(if he has) NOT to associate themselves with Bembas. He is always hiding in the name of Kaponya but the fact is he hates Bembas with a passion.
As we discuss the PACT, we should remember that HH’s real name is Sunny Chintombwa and his father, who abandoned him when he was 3 years was cattle wrestler.
Guys,who blog here just waste time insulting each other,tonga this that bemba this no ba fi ka la awe.The fact ia there are few people who buy papers and few who have access to internet.So don’t think if you blog here then you re making a point to the masses awe olo its not yu who ll vote through a blog,but poor men and women out there.so dont waste yo time bt read the mood in the country.
We have clips of what transpired in Mapatizya, we will go and show folks in Western province how they treated their sons like animals. Then go to Solwezi and Mufumbwe to remind our people how they maimed and killed their sons during bye-elections and falsely accused MMD of having committed atrocites. Of course we wont forget how they disrupted peace in Chilanga.
Okey guys where has HH gone wrong……as for me, planning is very important in all that we want to do ….Ba Sata is preparing for a wedding and not marriage..
#9 When our first president KK became president of Zambia, he was never a councillor or mayor anywhere and the man made wonders to the economy, the most educated one today benefited a lot from his era. He united all tribes in zambia by sending people in the civil service to places where they do not come from. KK was just a simple teacher, and went into politics to serve the people of Zambia and not these ones who have made politics a job, therefore we are just manipulated. HH already told us in 2006 that he knows the young man and that he is the best for zambia. Those who fear the young man, are those who are in politics for survival, because they fell many will lose confidence in them when HH starts performing his wonder on the economy. The young man is the best.
#6 Mbuzi, Exactly my thoughts man! Arent there people in UPND who can see things our way? HH can become the next President if he plays his cards well.
OK sunny chintombwa we can see you are power hungry and you will always come number 3 (three) in your future attempts.
Latest- Daily Mail has twisted the story—–just wait for HH to clarify the issue on proper Radio Stations
The end of ‘noti kubeba’ nonsense!!! Well done HH albeit long overdue. The writing is now on the wall for another 5 years of MMD but hey, 5 years of hooligans would be worse!
#132, Sunny Chintombwa will be no. 3 again
efyo chaba vabakulu ni vibakulu,patience pays….ifyakubutukila tafibomba…ukupoka ichinsenda kunkoko kunakilila, bushe kuti wayapoka party iyo abanobe babombela….
Ba Muyangana #130 KK didn’t do any wonders to the economy unless you are living on another planet. There has never been a single economist who has said KK did a good job. However he united Zambia.
atleast the bull has grown some balls! Should never have slept with a snake though, ni maloza! This turn of event was predictable from the start hh entering the pact has only worked to strengthen sata whereas had hh(yes small h) gone it alone the voice of reason would have overcome the spirit of hatred and chaos but we thank God that His light has prevailed over hh and now like mubarak and gadafi that unashamed dictator and his minions will be caged. Abash archaic politics and come together against the spirit of self destruction manifested un that age old liar sata…n
Talk about two of the most tribal-regionalistic partys in Zambia’s history. Grown men and women haboring selfish agendas. My goodness where to now my fellow Zambian citizens. Someone please give me Miyanda’s number so I awaken the general and provide him with an enthusiastic and young vice president. PLEASE I NEED MIYANDA’s number.
Please, do not praise Mazoka now because he is dead. The same people called him names such as tribalist, Sata and Chiluba at one of their ralies on the Copperbelt even said if you vote for a non-Bemba Mwakulalande efitundu. In 1998 when these same guys Sata and Chiluba saw that Mazoka was doing fine in central, Lusaka, Western, North-western, Southern and even rural Copperbelt, they started saying he is a tribalist and no one should vote for him. We know that anyone who is non-Bemba who aspares for presidency is a tribalist, but this time around you can say it even louder as we are voting for inocent souls who are not there in politics for economic survival. Viva HH my man, you have my vote, you have tried to unit, but things cannot work out, as we know you are the one who invited pf.
Talk about two of the most tribal-regionalistic partys in Zambia’s history. Grown men and women haboring selfish agendas. My goodness where to now my fellow Zambian citizens. Someone please give me Miyanda’s number so I awaken the general and provide him with an enthusiastic and young vice president. PLEASE I NEED MIYANDA’s number. He is one with the only remaining moral standing even though he is too passive, Miyanda that is.
Viva ulupiya! for more money in your bucket…. pockets I mean.
Hakaivotela Heka
Is it for real that HH’s real name is Sunny Chintombwa? Did he do a deed poll, what exactly happened for him to change his name? it seems everything about this man came about illegally.
a dice has been casted.MMD SHUD NOT BE HAPPY BT ITS A DO ALL DIE 2011
a dice has been casted.MMD SHUD NOT BE HAPPY BT ITS A DO ALL DIE 2011[-(
Now is time to start compagning for elections. Forget about Sata and the Post. Sata/Post have said it openly that with or without PACT Sata and his PF can win this year’s election. So they should not complain at all. Let them win in their dreams. Sata’s schemes and tricks will take him no where but to retirement. Go HH go, the future is bright.
# 142, He adopted the name of his guardian Mr. Hichilema after being abandoned by his biological father
You are all childish except
Maestro Hhehhehhehhe for 2011. My brother you are the man. Bembas are now stressed because you have shown them and I read between lines that you have defeted the thieves Bembas. hammer them. strike them ambush them and above all tell them to go back to school. VIVA MAESTRO!
We are better off giving Ruphia the vote just to prove a point that we aint happy with either camps of the PACT
LETS GO HH HH Zambia’s obamaaaaaaaaaaaa = 2011 no kaponyas,no old recycled politicians. we want real change from new blood. lets go HH.
I was pact Advocate, now i see myself voting for MMD
#108 your age must be somewhere say 13 years, because you are saying you cannot vote for RB because he is unipist. I may be wrote but if you are old you should be having a short memory. Sata has been there from UNIP to MMD of Chiluba where he was number 3 and top advisor to this regime which destroyed our economy. I wonder what change you are talking about, I would forgive you if you mean change to the worst. The man Sata was pushing for a third term for Chiluba so that after that labour Chiluba would give him the presidency, and thats the man you want us to put in power, even if we have enough evidence that he is a dictator as such things like a constitution do not exist in his head. Under my foot to vote for a man like Sata who is an economic plunderer.
This is the reason way Tongas hav managed even at school, they kno what exactly there ar doing ed u cnt bulldoze them becoz u cnt compare urs to them,yu will hate them ed yu will be tired because u cn nt change them. To me Bembas ar gud pipo only tht ther some few individuals hiding themselves in de of Bembas ed again Tongas also gud pipo, there genuine people bcoz if a Tonga sayz yes it yes if they say no is no. HH has consulted ed it true unless if wnted UPND to begging pf ed tht is not easy bcoz upnd is party as well. way shud they beg pf or sata fo what, upnd will leave without pf tht is how it is.
#33 TONGAs have no appetite for DANGEROUS leadership especially with coup plotters and their sympathisers.EVEN DICTATORS ARE NOT WELCOMED BY TONGAS. GOD DID NOT ENTERTAIN COUP PLOTERS LIKE LUCIFER,GOD DID NOT GIVE LIFE TO SYMPATHISERS OF DICTATORS LIKE JUDAS. TONGAS ARE GODLY IN CHARACTER. EVEN FARMING WE TAKE IT FROM GOD AS A BLESSED PRIME COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY AND SOURCE OF FOOD.
EVEN TO BE RIDUCLED WE SHARE THE RIDUCLE JESUS WENT THRU FOR BEING PRINCIPLED AND NOT POPULARIST.
#147 Heift
In your small pea sized brain madman Maestro has defeated someone here.
HH this is the best move ever. Do not worry about disappointed PF Kaponyas supporters who in their little brains thought that you come to make Sata president. We who want to see Zambia develop are not part of their jokes. They continue fatasing SATA with his jokes for president ,we are not part of their jokes. Lets all understand their disappointment. Yesterday in Sunday Mail disgarced Chiluba said SATA is a loose canon.Kekekekekeke.The revolution to rejuvanate Zambia is on and has started with HH. You definately have my vote HH. HH stay focused we are tied of thieves who want to hide in the name of serve the poor when infact they have depended on govt for all their lives hence they are willing call anyone who aspires for presido all sorts of names for he/she threartens their survive.
What a waste of time and resources. Self pride, greedness,lack of strategy and childishness and power hungryness has killed the pact. MMD was praying for this event day and night. It has happened and MMD will carry the day come rain come sunshine. VIVA RB and team.Sata and his Vuvuzela “The Post” are con signed to uncoering scams one after another. Sata will never rule this country. After his defeat which is selfmade he should retire from active poltics and give way to young ones. As for HH dont give time is on your side considering your age. You cant be in a partnership of a horse and rider. it failed during federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland.
GOOD RIDDANCE……UYU SUNNY CHINTOMBWA (ALIAS HH) WAS JUST WAISTING OUR TIME!!! ELECTIONS ARE NEVER WON BY DRINKING MINERAL WATER IN BOARD ROOMS….YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE IN REMOTE RURAL AREAS TO MINGLE WITH THE VOTERS…JUST AS SATA IS DOING…..MMD/UPND WE WILL TAKE YOU ON….AFTER ALL THE BATLE IS NOW BETWEEN SATA & RB……CHINTOMBWA (ALIAS HH), YOUR TIME WILL COME WHEN YOU MATURE, PERHAPS IN 2031…….FOR NOW IT’S BYE, BYE POLIO…..
Boza,why havent all the other Stations broadcasted the news?.Government media is always happy to kill the pact.Untill Mr.Hichilema calls for a Press Conference and announces the withdrawal,then we wont listen to this matuvi from the MMD propaganda.
What is this Bemba Tonga talk ? Why not One-Zambia-One-Nation ? Never allow yourself to be narrow minded. Zambia is big with myriad of people.
Say whatever you want about HH or even insult him louder as you have been always doing, but the fact is that he has reduced your chances of putting you finished politician, who plundered the economy, pushed for Chiluba’s third term, chawama saga, Us$ 27 000 confiscated in South Africa, firing junoir Doctors for protesting, inconsistency, DICTATOR etc.
this is very good news..its high time the two parties concentrated on their own!!..viva UPND..this is a timely move..!
Chwe! Chwe! Chwe!!!!!!
Haikaivotela Heka
Is that zayelo woman in the picture Sunny Chintombwa’s (mwenye) wife RB talked about.
As you can see country men and women lets give Mr Michael Chilufya Sata the vote in 2011.Trust me this man will change Zambia. Lusaka will be totally clean, hospitals will have medicines roads will be built and govt stealing will be a thing of the past. Please lets give this TIGER of a man a chance in 2011. Vote SATA!
HH our under five, We love you man and we are with you in everything, western vote is yours, this time around no recycled politician, or people who plundered our economy before.
164 I WANT TO VOTE FOR SATA…. Chapwa ba HH there is no Pact he can go into. He cant work with ULP he can not work with Milupi. Not even MMD…….The Tongas are our new cousins… Bonse balifuma Ku Butonga baisa ku Kapiri Mposhi bale tulanga uku lima. 2011 MICHAEL SATA FOR PRESIDENT
# 163 HH’ s wife is medium, well built, potential, educated unlike you dunderhead. She is a banker holding a very higher position of DIRECTORS, she is a respective woman in society, VERY beautiful and can not be compered with your ugly dull wife. S . t.u.P.I. d.
#165 and you are proud to say your HH is under 5 what a shame. I would rather go with experienced Sata even Obama was an experienced senator before being president. HH as you have said is truly an under 5 no government experience whatsoever.
UMUNTU NI PA NKOLOKO……RB TILL 2016 thats the way to go let him finish what he found pending and started………………………People join the winning team instead of having heartbreaks coz the results are already known
#130 Bo Muyangana you are damn right my friend. KK did wonders without any experience, the bottom line is going in there for service. Those who hate Tongas so much and opt to insult us, I pray to God to forgive your sins and allow you time to repent. Not all of us are like Meastro who can respond but be sure that you injure alot of people. Also know that we can also insult as much as you do or even more but we choose not to. Always one has to be the bigger one in times like these. VIVA voting on merit. Ni HH chabe and deep down your hearts you all know it.
Like somebody said “You don’t expect ‘fruits’ from a gay marriage. This surely was a gay marriage between UPND and their husband PF. History shows it also that the relationship between a ‘zimandola’ and ‘aisha’ always ends in ‘aisha’ crying foul. I blame HH, he should have seen this coming a long time ago. HH is still young, he may make amends, as for Sata, time is not on his side, he is already in the 70s or is it 80s. VIVA MMD once more.
N# 17 msana wanzili
You are very shallow! i wonder how u got yourself where your flag shows! why you were born? and hpw come you where born when infact yo fakkin parents where both gay!! Be informed that you will never ride on backs of Tongas! your hatred will just kill you coz u ar so negative about the progress of galant men and women. What makes you think that HH should have taken the lower rank? pure kaponyas you will not rule zambia. Your sing serpent will die as a constable, grade4/unknown..but not above grade 5! is a bully who shud not be allowed near the State house! Go and fetch Vinkubala in mbala mambala iwe. SATANYOKKO, imbwa we!
Fellow Zambians ,the hope of change in zambia is now over,pliz don’t waste your vote on the opposition.
It is a clear indication that they all after selfish gain.
#167 I am proud because everyone of us blogging here was once in life under 5, if you were not one then you must be a mosquito or snake which has a short life span. You are frustrated because you thought by you calling our man under 5 you will reduce our love for him, forget thats when we love him more. You can even call him all sorts of names which I know are false, but nothing will sway us. The most important factor is that he did not plunder the economy in any previous regime or even push to forgo the constitution for Chiluba for economic survival. He also did not recomend to reduce the powers of my Litunga the way your Sata did when he was Minister of local government. I love HH because he is not in politics for economic survival the way Sata, VJ, Katele etc are doing.
Why does it seem tat This so called newspaper only reports those “actions’ tat dstroy en not unite.I mean this is distructve to the pact..Wat ever gudnews bout HH or SAta is never printed.That is being biased….and speaking as a youth,,,we want equality and compliance.Catch Laura Mitcher on Facebook and see the Progress with “Revolutionisin” Zambia.
Well put Mr(President) HH. The whole pact thing would have caused major problems if it was to be elected in GRZ
#173 I see you are beyond redemption so I rst my case, enjoy your under 5 infact please prepare a lot of napkins( amatebela) because these elections will be rough there be need for you to constantly change him.
#163, shame on you, as others have already spoken you can never have a wife as beautiful as HH’s. Kalijo. In Tongaland there are no zayelos my dear. Skin bleaching is only for those who suffer from serious inferiority complex, many Tongas are naturally light skinned and those who are dark love it that way.
Sata will just bring confused change. The man does not respect free expression. Look at what his cadres have been doing the MTV and MobTV. Is it right for PF cadres to storm into a studio and disrupt programmes. If Sata and his cadres wer decent they should have put up a counter advert to despel whatever Chanda Chimba has been writing. That guy Chanda Chimba is media consultant and that is his source of livelihood so why blame him if he paid to that. What will happen when PF forms Govt?. Those are signs of thuggery and primitivity not be allowed in this modern age of a free media.
Politicians have failed us, only cheating us and surviving on our tax. This time our choice is on an economic manager and not a politician. KK was not a politician thats why he educated us and united all tribes. Actually, we are not looking for a political manipulator or someone experienced in politics, but one who can manage our economy or rather a group of people to manage our resources in the name of HH, Milupi, Chirwa, Mutati, Chituwo, etc. For you political experts, see you later, and thats if you will still be alive.
SATA is MAGOGO he is 78 yrs old i will go the young man not magogo de old school lik sata no
I think HH was all interested in being picked as President for the Pact. I feel pity for HH because this time around you will have fewer members of parliament, try to consult people on the pact, don’t be emotional, show leadership not what you want to do, you are going to kill the pact and the people who have invested in the pact will not forgive you sir!!!
NO need to even VOTE, it will be a sheer waste of time, as RB will plainly GO thru now…he must be smiling wherever he is now but ‘A DAY OF NATIONAL MOURNING for the majority….eisshh..
Zambians, please forget about all those people, they have nothing for Zambia. Where in the world have you seen the old one coming back. Lets find young people who will led this country Zambia for best. Look at the US, UK etc, are have young people leading they counties.
Forget RB, SATA and HH. Do not forget that Zambia is our country and the only Zambia we have
#17 and #33 mwabalya manyokwe! who do you think you are shi+,you will rot unsuccessfull
MMD we haven, forgotten sale of ZAMTEL/RP capital evaluation report and many more
HH has survived the tricks of the 2nd dictator in Southern Africa.
SATA could easily make a worse dictator than Mugabe.
Anything that makes him feel he can have an advantage and get him to state house, he goes for it.
Sata is a clear dictator, HH was almost duped, but he has realised.
HH also became too desperate; how you honestly team with Sata who cannot be teamed with, impossible.
Hoping for the best out of a list of clear bad things you only end up with a bad thing steel.
Even if he hoped for the best of Sata, he would end up dissapointed.
This year we are voting on merits. All those without merits we shall retire them indefinately. All those without merits but thrive based on tribal support like SATA, this year we are here to retire you so that we send you to political achieves where you belong. We have now opened a new chapter in our politics based on merits, issues and programmes. Those who thinks they are big group in Zambia and that only them can provide leadership with their dunderhead for president will learn a lesson they will never forget this this year. A new Zambia we want is where every BEMBA, TONGA, LOZI, CHEWE,NGONI, LENJE, SENGA,NSENGA, TUMBUKA,SOLI,LUVAVLE, LUNDA, KAONDE, LAMBA, LALA,MBUNDA, NKOYA,BISA, NAMWANGA, MAMBWE, LUNGU, NYIKA, CHIKUNDA,SALA, etc can rule for as long as they have the merits to do so.
Stop tribalism all of you atase. MMD is winning kwasila….
Maestro Hhehhehhehhe for 2011 would-b President of Zambia HH
I am begining to think you are an MMD master dribller who is trying to divide and rule the Bembas and Tongas – either that or you are a very bitter and twisted person. It beats me how you even quote the bible in you evil schemes. You are just as bad as my fellow Bemba who are insulting the Tonga in retaliation. The rest of us real Zambians mix and inter marry without any problems. Get a life mate.
#183 for real expecting free expresion in Sata’s administration is demanding too much from him and his minions. If you listen to the interview Sata had with Shaka Sali on VOA last year, this man was not civil to say the least, he even backed off in the middle of the interview with frustration. I tell you listening to that show or interview, under your foot would you vote for this devil in a human.
Too little, too late; HH, you’ve already lost your credibility by sleeping with the devil. Chief Mwanachingwala warned you but you were too stubborn! Now, who looks foolish? You and Sata have actually taken Zambians for a ride with your so called pact, sheer waste of time!
There is no benefit in giving SATA a benefit of doubt.
I think even Sata himself cannot afford to give himself any benefit of doubt, know how he changes goal posts.
Expect no change if u put SATA there,he s not a leader no wonder even chiluba did not even favor him even whn he supported him for third term.if u cn see now he is old he is MAGOGO old man now.who wil vote for him at tht MAGOGO old age of 70 and above ?Unless un educated ed a shallow minded person at that age he wil be de oldest leader in the world,me old MAGOGO VIVA HHHHH.
HH cant win these elections alone yes, true that as it may be but Sata cant aswell win alone, he needs HH. Infact, it is the last opportunity for Sata to win, his health and age may not allow him in 2016, but will PF still be PF without Sata, time is tell, on the contrary HH will still be strong in 2016 and chances are UPND may row stronger then,..No offence guys, this is my sincerely analysis…
We want everyone to contribute to the Development of this country and we can only do that if we base our selection on merit.
In soccer we have failed to lift African Cup of Nations because of some selfish Zambians. Its only because soccer does not affect ourlives directly thats why many of us have not been so much affected by the events in this area. But issues of Development are at the core of our livelihood and we canot allow the same faces who have failed us to continues under new brands as the Post Newspaper is trying to rebrand some politicians. Anyway am not here to talk about the Image Builders of SATA (Post Newspaper) who are trying to rebrand SATA as a saint, democrat and all. Am just here to say a Lizzard can not be a crocodile no matter what you try to do to it. Viva change HH.
Sata and Mugabe are the same thats why in 2008 when Sata realised that he was close to winning, he started preparing the list of guests, and the so called official chief guest was to be MUGABE.
WE ARE WAITING FOR THE BEST VIVA UPND
WE ARE WAITING FOR THE BEST VIVA UPND:-\”
Our undergraduate student’s research work has been proved correct.
upnd for lif the old man s tired tak him to de farm, does he hav a farm that one? tel him to stop mis using de money let him buy farm ed stay what cn he do now that he failed to do in chiluba ed kk era ambuya mwakula tisyeni ise bafana.you cnt learn from madiba mandela. at 78 yrs that is when u wnt rule forget.viva HH u qualify even 2016 than the gogoz whos 78 yrs old.
The idea of the PACT was to try and bring together Bembas & Tongas who seem to be at cold war all the time. May be they should be declared tribal cousins!!!
– You can insult Tongas but you can not fool them.
– You can Teach a bemba but you can win an urgument with them.
– Ladies and gentlemen we have planted a bad seed of hatrate between these two tribes to our children and other generation to come. THE PACT could have resoved that had sata not being bulish
VOTE FOR MAGANDE!
Very sobering there
DM & Maestro,
Zambia like I said is not for a few select people like you all. Do you honestly think it revolves around Tongas, Bembas and Lozis? Come-on DM did you have to stoop that low to even go as far as using deragotory terms against me because you have to protect your little world view? I may wash dishes or whatever and that has no bearing to this discussion. All am asking you guys is to debate without talking about you being better cause you’re Tonga and or Bemba. We are all zambians irrespective of where we come from .
Was never going to happen, HH prepare to lead this nation.
Fantastic!!!!! I just broke my VIRGINITY & The Pact collapsed on the same day. I will treasure this day for the rest of my life. RB this is now all in your hands. Another 5 years for MMD
I fear for those Tongas married to Bembas and vise vesa. What will their children get. HATRATE???
mwati paye bena sata.what hope do we have for our children.just sitting down and iron Ama issues vakoso!!!!!!!!u pipo whats wrong!!!and u claim to be better leaders!!!!!!!AM A VERY DISSAPOINTED ZAMBIAN.
STAND UP FOR ZAMBIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we wont vote for Mr. bully
why shud hh be the only one that pipo shud listen to…why cant he also listen to sata?
Come on tribalists!! i only asked a reasonable question, if she isn’t Sunny Chintombwa’s wife just say so and not the insults you showering me. In any case whats wrong with the good lady in picture, she looks well fed of mabisi
My vote, my wife’s and my eleven childrens’ votes goes to HH, viva UPND
#215. Even when he is talking nonsense??
Ati pact!In the first place what did UPND have in common with PF?This is a true reflection of African leaders and their hunger for power.Our leaders should realise that we are fed up with leaders that want to advance their personal gain when they get into presido office.What inspiration can we get from such leaders as upcoming leaders?All we are seeing is selfishness and trickery among themselves.Today we here that someone is being adopted as a sole candidate just for the sake of not being challanged, the other day someone gets suspended for exercising his constitutional right in the party and now it’s the divorce between the two unlike partners.When are we ever going to have genuine leaders like Nelson Madiba Mandela in this great continent.Pls Jesus come to our rescue!
History in the making!! The Chirwa declaration will be remembered for many years to come. Kabimba Kalusa, M’membe and HH will be remembered for having killed the PACT. Sata’s intransigience is almost understandable, i mean if he doues not rule now, when is he going to rule? I beleive HH can be talked to properly so that these PACT people can reconsider their positions. The attitude from PF (Kabimba) especially is very BAD. HH did not jump, he was pushed……
So zedians are still living in the world of tribalism? Worst off, we still thing the dinosaurs (RB and SATA) are better leaders than us the youth.Anyway, HH is the future. The two old dinos will be gone to hell soon. While they are burning due to their stinky deeds, we shall be better.
Win or lose, my vote is for HH.
What does it profit the nation to have change for the sake of change?? Ladies and Gentlemen, once bitten twice shy… What this country needs is paradigmic change, that is a total shift in the way we manage our affairs from the family all the way up to the state… This change can not come by electing people that have been associated with the republic from pre-independence days up to today! Go for fresh blood! HH has offered himself to deliver real change but because of irratonal thinking, you go for the 2nd best or 3rd best person for inexplicable reasons… Boggles the mind…
#201 Mugabe even attended RB’s inauguration, surely that is worse than Sata planning to invite him?
Good news indeed. God bless Zambia. RB deserves another term. He is God given. Any serious Christian cannot deny this fact. He need our prayers and guidance. HH will lead after RB. Sata you will never administer Zambia. Just retire in peace. Your family has advised you to reduce on stressfully activities. You cant last another 5 years if you overwork yourself. Leadership is not about individualism but unity of purpose. Good news for Zambia. Let this spirit of division grow from strength to strength within the PACT. Do you know the meaning of pact?
VIVA HH. You have my vote period.
VIVA UPND
Leadership is not about selfishness. Its about willingness to listen to advice and adjust. His own member of UPND Chirwa advised what was wrong in HH not going for a JNC and maybe Express is Displeasure in the Proposals. Kabimba’s response was timely and today we could have exactly known the truth about who is wrong. HH Don’t wash your Dirty Linen Outside… But now HH is finished. Thing He has No Experience en thats Cardinal for a Presidential Candidate.
Check source of news first: Zambia Daily mail owned and operative paper for the RB regime…whose interest in spreading rumors of HH against MC
Check source of news first: Zambia Daily mail owned and operative paper for the RB regime…whose interest in spreading rumors of HH against MC
Check source of news first: Zambia Daily mail owned and operative paper for the RB regime…whose interest in spreading rumors of HH against MC
SATA,SATA , SATA, what kind of a man are you? your friends reduced themselves down for the sake of all Zambians but you seem not to get the idea. Now when are you going to lead coz yo time is gone and this was the only time u had to tested plot 1. As for me and my family will not VOTE. Viva to the luck guy.
FINE..I for one will never trust Politicians until i see results. These PACTS only make sense if their have a strong purpose, otherwise why change for the sake of it..
My advice to all Political parties is: GO OUT THERE AND CAMPAIGN!!
In the end ZAMBIANS will vote and get a government that they deserve as always. I mean, this willl not be the first election nor the last.
So the die is cast and please nobody must complain and go on the streets after losing OLO ELSE the ZAMBIAN PROFESIONAL POLICE WILL BE INVITED TO DO A PROFESSIONAL JOB ON YOU!!
PREDICTION
1.MMD
2.PF
3.UPND
4.ADD
5.NAREP
6. etc etc etc
ok..let me go back to work, make money so i can feed my extended family and associated fimo fimo..
Its called SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!
Well so HH thinks he will get more votes than RB. He is indeed a foolish man.
# 125 Zonda mutonga uzalema,
Mbuya nakunvela manje nvela uyo Meastro musiye ni mwana mun’gono akali kupunzila kulemba ma essay yakusukulu. he musn’t start with me because i will drop him in a pine apple plantation in mwinilunga where i want to throw Hakainde for insulting us. he must not even think of coming to mwinilunga, Yambezhi, solwezi, kabombu, Lwakela etc. He (Hakahinde) is a big disgrace! Any Tonga who want to fight with me be cause i have denounced the Tonga cow should give me give me a notice
Oh my GOD! This discussion is so intense I can almost hear your voices you guys. I wish our parliament was as lively as this!!! God Bless us all. Sata for you, HH for the other guy, RB for me, and God for us all! RB deserves the presidency this election round, more than any of the other two guys. Sata is a dictator and a thief, HH is still immature although his present decision to pull out of the PACT shows that he is now growing up into a man; whereas, RB is already there! I admit that RB is not perfect, but he has proven to do some things right — and sometimes he listens, especially when you scare him a little bit. We want a president we can manipulate, not a hardcore dictator like SATA! Who cares about a piece of metal that you can’t easily bend and shape into a car-sparepart? With…
#125 ZONDA MU TONGA UZALEMA
You are a wise Tonga. I am a proud Bemba who has grown & interacted with Tongas happily. In generations to come, your children & mine will interact to develop Zed. U shud interact with people like Maestro HH … who desperately need your natural wisdom. I often don’t blog, but everyday read the tribalist comments against Bembas or Tongas with disgust. Maestro even uses the bible! Gossh! Some of our best in-laws are Tongas anyway.
Right from the start this pact wasnt going to work cause these muppets are all power hungry. Everyone wants to become president. RB must be smiling wherever he is cause it sure hell is the begining of his second term. Hes gonna win the elections now.
When Sata first stood for presdo against big guns like mwanawasa, Nevers & Mazoka no one considered him a contender so he went on the ground gathering support from the uneducated, the poor, the abused workers and the forgoten villagers to build PF to the power that it is today. Where has HH been? Today he wants to ride on PF’s /Sata’s popularity to get him into state. No one in PF will shed a tear for this dead marriage.
There’s only 1 word to describe these goons! Political Retards.
#232 KATONGO – You are in denial. It is happening. Depending on who you support just start working on a strategy for election-2011 bwana. We all new it wasn’t gonna work. In fact the PACT has reached this far because HH has tried too hard to look good and ignore PF’s taunts. PF have humiliated him over and over so many times, so much that people were even wondering whether HH is man enough on his own. This is really good for him, it will restore confidence in him that he is man enough and a potential president who can make tough decisions. He should concentrate on building his party. 2011 is going to RB, there is no need to argue about that. However, 2016 is open to everybody and HH has a chance. If he sticks with PACT he is finished!
in this case i will just vote for one of these I D I O Ts called Cosmo or Siulapwa….:d
What other serious opposition is there country men and women? Lets give Mr Michael Chilufya Sata the vote in 2011.Trust me this man will change Zambia. Lusaka will be totally clean, hospitals will have medicines roads will be built and govt stealing will be a thing of the past. Please lets give this TIGER of a man a chance in 2011. Vote SATA!
This Year’s elections will be a Rest In Peace Match for Michael Chilufya David Coresh Sata.
#227 I say amen to you. I was driven into the PACT madness. Now i know RB is the man and maybe someone like Prof. Chirwa after RB. The rest are selfish
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 2011,,,,,NI YANU
#245 undertaker give the old man SATA a chance he is definitely far better than RB in service delivery!
FOR SURE NI H.H CHABEEE,,,SATA AND KABIMBA ZWAAAAA
an one who has seen Sunny Chintombwa’s aka HH wife in public before, i just what to know pliz!
SATA AND KABIMBA WAAWAAAAAAAAAAAAA,,,,,CHOKA MUNJILA CHOKAAAAAAAAA
I WILL NOT VOTE, SINCE MMD HAS ALREADY WON BY BY PACT BY BY PRESIDENCY FOR BOTH SATA AND HAKAINDE WISHING YOU THE BEST FIVE YEARS FROM NOW
#248 should read
an one who has seen Sunny Chintombwa’s wife aka HH wife in public before, i just what to know pliz!
I don’t blame sunny chintombwa, I blame his deluded cadres that have been foo.ling him.
Goosh! Now ba Sata has to wait another 5 years to try and lose again. What a life!
Let HH officially team up with MMD.We know his secret meetings with them.He is finished before even tasting state house.Shame on him! desperate under 5. He is a ‘munshebwa(i know it all type).The sad thing is that even if he teamed up with MMD or any other party, he would like to be the President(selfish in deed).He is no longer part of the change we Zambians want.Thange is coming even without HH.We know that Milupi,Silvia Masebo,Nawakwi,Shakas,Mpombo & other intelligent people will join the revolution we need to bring change.
#236 Kennedy.
Twanvwa Mudala Twalumba we will give notice. Tell Kakoma to take over from HH. We will support him.
What is wrong in Zambia?Is it a curse to be a Zambian?Are we thinking about our children and grandchildrens’ future?If leaders cannot agree on a simple thing like pact,how are they going to eradicate poverty?Is it worth it voting?Cursed is the day when we were born as Zambians.Are we a proud nation as we proclaim?Proud in being subjected to shameful poverty.What is it that we want that God has not given us?We are living in poverty becoz we luck proper leadership.Who is going to unshackle us from this debilitating poverty?Is it tribalism or old age?Poverty knows no tribe or age.Neither does it know education.All we need is the Moses leadership.We need someone who will tap a stone and water will come out.We need a guide and upright leader.Not tribalism!Tribalism won’t remove us from…
Michael SATA will have his farewell election this year.
He may not want to stand in 2016. He might be quite old if i am not mistaken.
Unless he believes that the older you grow the more pupular you become.
Otherwise, I have a feeling his popularity is in the decline.
And Zambians get bored easily, i dont think they will keep trying to vote for him after all these failures.
Many as I am speaking are fed up of SATA.
Some wont vote, others will vote for MMD.
In southern, others are saying if you vote HH then you are puting SATA is power because they are together. So they feel they would rather vote for MMD to avoid Sata through HH.
This means that HH also has created too much work for himself in Southern, Western and N/Western. He now has to undo the PACT mindset in the rural people.
these DOG power hungry men have failed to agree on a simple isue coz u are they are not serious to help poor zambians they have allowed BANDA to continue traveling by dropping the PACT.they think they can win alone wen MMD have employ thieves like FTJ.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Lets just say each one has a choice. Go for who ever you think will run the country well rather than the useless languages that you are using. Note that we want change and not recycling old fellows. We want to see Parties with good manfestos win. By the way, all dictators in Africa are beeing chased like dogs, why should zambia vote for a party that does not test intra party democracy? Who voted for all the MCC in PF?, Who appointed the fake Lawyer Kabimba to SG for PF? Why push out Lubinda from his position as Spokes Person for PF? If these answers are answered then we will give PF the seat but alas if not then UPND or MMD who are democratic should carry the Day.
My Humble suggestion for the PACT is that they should adopt an independent pearson who they are going to field as a presidential candidate. Lets say people like Kakoma, Chirwa, Lubinda or better still one who is neither PF or UPND. This am sure will unite Zambians.
Well done HH, though long overdue still better late than never. This is a bold move taken by a presidential hopeful. The PACT with Grand Pa SATA has brought you backwards you should have been miles ahead but unfortunately you agreed to enter into what some of us have always called the marriage of “ inconvenience”. The UPND needs to move faster that lightening to unveil their manifesto and campaign in earnest for the upcoming tripartite elections. This will bring some sort of sanity to the politics of Zambia. We want politics based on issues and not individuals. Contray to the belief that Zambia is doomed I personally believe it is a blessing in disguise. These guys would have been fighting for positions without any tangible development. Let each party show what they are worthy.
Sunny Chintombwa and his party must apologise in the widely read Post Newspaper for reserving certain positions for Tongas only. The other apology should go to individuals they maimed during Mumfumbwe, Solwezi and Chilanga bye-elections.
This is politics not about herding cattle. HH has just fu*cked-up big time! In politics you have to be strategic and not try to please your tribalistic ego. Thing is, UPND is full of big-headed bigots who can’t see beyond the cow’s poop. So, long Mapatizya formula! viva pabwatoooooooooooooooooooo!
244,247 Way Forward, please don’t send us to the bathroom with your Sata
I never believed in the PACT. If trully we need change, I believe we can still look at the opposition parties available and settle on one which we think can give us the change we want. We are all Zambians and this issue of opposition parties teaming up against one party which is equally made up of Zambians is nonsense!
#John Phiri
seriously my brother I pity you ! your comments are always on tribal lines sure? The devil is really working in your damn blood sucking every little you have. Shame upon you tribalist ……MYSRIP.
154 Mr Heift and others, thanks all for acknowledging my contribution to Zambian politics. I really appreciate and will make sure I expose the PF mediocre tribalists for who they really are.
The PF medicore bemba-Kaponya cult, who think they are little gods, will not be the ones voting for HH and UPND to form GRZ Administration, but its nice that all other progressive Zambians will cast a vote each and little by little HH- and UPND-sympathisers will amass winning votes that will send Pee yeFu (PF) chief tribalist serpent Sata MC to Zambian politics oblivion.
However, all kaponyas of PF are welcome to vote for HH and UPND because there are many things that they can participate in as useful citizens in the UPND party.
They will enjoy respect by HH and the UPND Team.
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Matt…
We understand your frustration PF Kaponya’s. The PACT is over and let each party concentrate on its campaigns. HH will campaign to all open minded Zambians and they will vote for him because he has all it takes. Those dunderheards whose future starts and ends with sata will cry. sata’s vote are well known and we all know where they will come from. Even our disgraced Chiluba in yesterday’s Sunday Mail said that sata is not capable of being a pesident. he needs supervision otherwise he is a disaster. Chiluba went on to say that the only resoan he supported sata in 2006 was because the he( Chiluba) was not in good boots with the then president our Beloved NO Nonsense late Levy Mwanawasa. In other words Chiluba was saying his support for sata in 2006 was not based on merit or objectivity.
Just watching the circus, as if we never told them.
Just to say thank God, He really loves Zambia. The way they are tearing each other to pieces, imagine what would have happened if the so called Pact had somehow formed government!
SATA cannot work with others.
They will be quarelling everyday as HH writely put it.
and that will be against the interest of Zambians.
Let us just continue with MMD, otherwise voting for HH increases the chances for Sata.
HH would have been a better alternative, but he cant win. Therefore we are far…..rr better with RB than SATA.
Keep SATA away from leadership, apart from PF leadership where he remains president Umuyayaya.
We have to be progressing, everywherte people are yeaning for democracy. People like Sata dont need a slight chance.
Free advice is that we keep him away from leadership.
If Leaderhip was medicine, I would print on it, “KEEP OUT OF REACH OF SATA”.
To the serpent Sata MC, it is sad that this 2011 election may be the last one he will be attempting to enter the Presidency of Zambia office as our Head of State. However, I wish him long-life leadership of PF so that UPND can beat him and his PF even in 2016 elections.
Even my most favourite footballer to ever live on this planet Kalusha Bwalya (a Bemba-by-tribe, I believe) had to leave Zambia football by missing a crucial penalty kick against Angola which saw us Zambians lose (the COSAFA CUP?) to Angola on our home-ground. Good enough for Grade 12 school leaver Kalusha Bwalya, he was educated enough to realise that he could move on from playing football on the pitch to football Administration where he could be relevant.
If Sata MC was as wise, I could have supported HH.
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Matt…
If Zambians cannot get the message I do not know who we will listen to. Nawakwi, KK, FTJ, PF’s own MPs now labelled Rebels, Former PFs close associates(eg former members & SGs) and now the very close(in Marriage-PACT) to Grand pa Micheal Chilufya SATA – Sunny Hakainde Hichilema, have all said the not so good news about the man (SATA). I attended some rally’s by MCS in the late 1990s this trait (dictatorship) was already showing. You cannot taech an old Dog new tricks. He is simply a Dictator. “Democracy” has eluded him. Can’t wait to see these guys manifesto. “Ichikwanka bachimwena kuma mpalanya”- You can deduce someones character by their actions.
#265Mr Heift
just answer my question thats why they call under fives how can fail to answer simple question!!!
tribalist ni HH who wanted to fight Kabonde in mufumbwe!
SO IF SATA IS TRASH EVEN IN THE EYES OF CHILUBA THE MAN SATA WORKED SO HARD TO PLS DURING 3RD TERM CAMPAIGN, THEN WHO ARE WE TO REBRAND A LOOSE CANON JUST TO BORROW CHILUBA’S ENGLISH. THIS IS Y SOME SCHOOLED PIPO THAT SUPPORT SATA ARE NOT PROUD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH HIM IN PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEIR REASON OF SUPPORTING SATA FALL SHORT OF OBJECTIVITY AND FAILS TO BEAT THE BASIC RULES OF LOGIC. WE ALL KNOW THAT SATA HAS NO PRESIDENTIAL QUALITIES. LETS TEL SATA THE TRUTH SO THAT HIS SELF ESTEEM CAN BE PUT IN THE RIGHT PLACE WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND THAT IS IN THE POLITICAL ARCHIEVES. WE SHALL REMEMEBER HIM FOR THE 3RD TERM CAMPAIGN, CHAWAMA SAGA, CORRUPTION, CHANGING GOAL POSTS, RUNNING A PARTY FULL OF JOKES WITH NO MANIFESTO,OBTAINING 2 DEGRES WTHT ATTENDING ANY CLASS OR…
Anyhow, let serpent Sata MC/PF compete against HH in the 2011 presidential elections of Zambia instead of my If Sata MC was as wise, he should have supported HH of the UPND to become Zambian President this 2011. Such competition will help all Zambians in particular and world citizens in general to know who is more popular than the other in 2011. This 2011 year’s election is not for timid souls but tough-resolved men like HH.
Be blest all and make sure you vote for HH and UPND to form GRZ Administration this 2011. I hope HH will also beat serpent Sata MC in the northern parts of the Northern Province of Zambia as well as the southern parts of that Province — where Sata MC and his other PF tribalists think Sata MC of PF owns votes of the Bemba people that live there.
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Matt…
THE GAME IS NOW OVER. VIVA HH. HERE WE COME.
VIVA HH VIVA UPND The message we waited to hear.
The only place where SATA should be president is PF.
Here people dont have elections so his leadership is very STABLE.
He has been losing at national election because he has no idea about principles of democracy and elections.
That is why he always refuses to accept election results because he does not appreciate what this thing called democratic elections is all about. All he knows is “KU RULING’A BEBELE!”.
So after elctions he gets shocked that he is not the one to rule.
He cant understand why.
sunny chintombwa i know you are reading this pliz young man try to be a councillor some where in monze so that you prepare yourself for the president or MP in 2031.
This is the worst UPND has done to the nation. Zambian had hope in the pact for it was the only way of removing this monster called Bwezani from power.
But i can foresee danger for UPND, if HH is not careful, this year might be the end of his political carea
281 contributions so far. It shows how much Zambians are concerned about their future and that of their children and grandchildren. I salute Lusakatimes, Zamianwatchdog. Post and Zedleaks for providing platform to Zambians to share, agree or agree to disagree on the most important event of 2011- national election. Obama showed the way, the power and role of technology in disseminating information and changing the course of american history. I am confident, Zambians will emulate and send the right candidates to parliament and state house.
Have faith in our collective wisdom. Viva Zambia
282 contributions so far. It shows how much Zambians are concerned about their future and that of their children and grandchildren. I salute Lusakatimes, Zamianwatchdog. Post and Zedleaks for providing platform to Zambians to share, agree or agree to disagree on the most important event of 2011- national election. Obama showed the way, the power and role of technology in disseminating information and changing the course of american history. I am confident, Zambians will emulate and send the right candidates to parliament and state house.
Have faith in our collective wisdom. Viva Zambia
they all dream to state house too much.this time i have no respect to each of them.they are fooling us.
I have told you now and again that, this political experience of people who cannot survive on their own only to manipulate us, will not make our lives better or put food on the table. They have been there and will always manipulate us for their benefit and survival. People like MC Sata, VJ Mwanga, Katele Kalumba, etc. This time around we would rather have someone with no political experience, but can make the economy better for everyone to benefit. Sata, VJ and Banda have been there since the time of UNIP what more do they want, I think it is all about survival nothing else. Sata and Mwanga go to South Africa whenever they are sick while zambians are left ti die in that death trap called UTH.
If Sata really represents the poor, why did he go to South Africa when he had a minor heart attack back in 2008, the man never even stepped a foot in UTH only when he wants to make a political gimmick. The man was even taken to South Africa on our tax money by Mwanawasa, he could not afford medicals on his own, shame. This really means he will go to state house for economic survival and to die in comfort, capwa. Last month the wife was also taken to South Africa on tax payers instead of UTH their campaign ground and death trap for us the poor. These politicians can do anything even to sleep in the toilet for us to vote for them in the name of representing the poor. This time around we need people who have already worked for their families already.
Our peopl in Western and N/W provinces are still waiting for apologies for the many crimes these tribalists have caused against them. The Mapatizhya formular will not be allowed to happen on the national level, this year we will ensure they only win in choma and monze. We’ll grab livingstone our MMD counterpart will go for Mazabuka and our agent Magande will also grab a couple or more. All decent human being should join hands with us so that we crash tribalism’s ugly head once and for all. Be blest and goodnight to all.
Batwipayafye mwee,thi not gud business and ba SATA
RB will win because he has presided over a period when Zambian Middle class has been growing and the country is now stable for economic growth. Just seeing the traffic shows that most Zambians have disposable income and any sane investor is scared stiff of a PF Socialist Government because it will ruin investor confidence.
#288 ba msana, please make your point.
Both Pact partners wore tribal tags, the PF being the more vicious tribalist of the two partners.
Please read my blog yesterday.
“When contacted for a comment over the matter, both Mr Sata and Mr Kabimba said they will react to the UPND’s withdrawal from the pact when it writes their party an official notification”.
Sata no comment no words? Impossible, he must be shell shocked at the crumble of Pact in his eyes. How is he going to hide his tribalism now?
Since the Pact was formed over a year ago, bloggers have passed various comments on their understanding of the Pact. This information is available in the public domain, particularly on LT where bloggers engaged in a healthy exchange of pros and cons of the Pact. Since the Pact is now on its death bed, the various comments from bloggers are summarized in this compilation and analysed in order to try and make sense out of what appeared to be something senseless. CONTD
CONTD What people don’t seem to know, judging from bloggers’ comments since the Pact started, is that both Sata and HH realized that they could not enter State House because they both carried a tribal tag. The two leaders realized that the majority of Zambians across the tribal spectrum would not have that archaic nonsense. The story about the numbers required to defeat MMD were a secondary prize, and has now been discarded together with the Pact.
CONTD The Pact was an idea which appealed to both HH and Sata as it would enable each of them to mask the tribal tag, much like one uses perfume to mask bad body odours. But the problem with their strategy was that HH and Sata did not take into account the fact that both of them were headstrong and would not compromise the ultimate prize. In fact they had no room to manouevre because their tribal sponsors gave them only one mission: get our tribe into State House. CONTD
CONTD The Pact failed to work because the two leaders Sata and HH
i. wanted to ride on the back of the other to achieve the same prize, State House.
ii. they both carry the tribal tag.
In the case of HH, the UPND conference and sponsors that put him in power did not hide the fact that it was time for a Tonga President in Zambia. Obviously the UPND regrets that misguided publicity, as it has cost them dearly.
CONTD
CONTD In the case of Sata, the tribal basis of PF was more subtle mainly because (i) he did not have to go through an election as HH did, with the resultant negative fall out, and (ii) Bemba was just taken casually as a metropolitan language spoken on the Copperbelt and Lusaka Urban, outside Bembaland. PF managed to hoodwink the other tribes in CB and Lusaka who use Bemba as a language of communication in their everyday lives. CONTD
CONTD These brothers and sisters did not suspect that they were being used “to escort” a particular tribe to State House in much the same way that PF and UPND wanted to use each other for the same purpose. If people opened their eyes they would see through the whole scheme as the signs are there:
CONTD
CONTD (i) sweet talk like “money in your pocket and 90 days development” slogans – theories which are both impractical and impossible but were .designed for sale to the gullible. It nearly succeededto take Sata to State House in 2008 but now voters are wiser.
ii) look closely at the sponsors or close associates of PF, they are not an accident.
iii) whenever you attend a PF rally, pay close attention to the cheer leaders and praise singers.
iv) look at Sata’s rallies and the language of address, it is not even everyday common Bemba but the real “intambi” type, intended for a specific target group.
CONTD
I would like to appeal to LT to allow this thread to run for at least two more days so that we tell these shameless tribalists from choma a few more home truths. At the rate we pumping sense in these tribalists i wont be surprised if the comments go over 1,000 and set a record
In light of the above events, one can only conclude the following about the late Pact.
i. the Pact’s supporters’ understanding of politics is pathetic
ii. and their leaders too
#290 HH Chintombwa
what point do you want me make sir?
This blog stinks with tribal smell. You are making it tough for bembas and tongas, why do you see yourselves different from each other. This is the most sickling part of zambian politics. Tongas and bembas are free to speak their mother tongues but calling themselves names it is not helpful at all, are you tribal cousins?
ZambianDream
Do you expect us to keep quiet when certain tribal political parties have publicly set a glass ceiling on certain positions for other tribes. Am sorry but we have to denounce this sort of segregation in our country and if it means forcing certain people to integrate we’ll do just that. Thank you .
the drama continues. congratulations hh for openly accepting what people have always been telling you that the pact business was non-existent. i only hope the reports are true. the motives behind the pact were not only selfish but also too big a risk for the people of zambia to rely on it. the only sad part of the whole drama is that the future of zambia still remains dark.
I know many people want an elaborate plan of action from PF and that is indeed coming and I must point out that such a plan is a working document which can be further refined. To come up with an elaborate development plan you need access to government machinery in terms of country wide research documents and a group of technocrats strictly dedicated to developing such a plan. Now an opposition party due to lack of access to such resources can only come up with a skeleton plan. However what is currently troubling are bread and butter issues that Zambians are facing i.e. no medicines in hospitals, no proper sanitation, no water, poor roads and these Mr Sata can address immediately, other presidents have failed to solve these problems
Empty Drum Cobra Rest In Pieces,Under Five Go To The Farm.
Soya Congrats,More kakwendo munjila after erections.
Empty Drum Cobra & Under 5 Are Jockers
I thought this guy had brains, now I can conclude that even a minibus conductor is much better that this selfish tribal leader whose agenda is only to advance the Tonga interests. I wish he could reason and analyse situations like Proff Chirwa, When he joined the pact, I am 100% sure that he had wanted to hijack the pacts leadership despite his KKK party commanding a small following than spans from Mazabuaka to Livingstone.
mmd lies and propaganda at work
HH will never win elections alone. He knows that but he is too arrogant to admit. Southern Province alone is not enough. He thinks when he walks around Mazabuka and everyone is singing praise songs for him then he is the man. He is going to cry again. Sata is tough tested because he faces even stiffer competition with MMD in his own backyard (Northen Province) because Bembas do not think with their tribe but with their heads. The opposite happens in the other end of the country. If Sata loses he will retire but HH will continue losing and crying. Change of government is desirable in Zambia but if the opposition is not interested we shall continue with the MMD, after all Zambians are forgetful and can easily get used to mediocrity under lupiya and his minions!
So Much Of Tribal Talk.
Perhaps We Permanently Divide Zed Southern +Barotse +NorthWestern and the Rest Can Go To Empty Drum Cobra We See Who Shall Develop Faster.
Viva Barotse Fight-Southern+NorthWestern Please Join Before These Thieves Completely Retard Our Development.
Empty Drum Cobra R.I.P
Fili eko tuleya. Wapya munzi bane!. U gonna shit in yo pants again.
i normaly stay away from blogs due some insults labelled on others. please stop treading insults here. behaving like football hooligans who themselves cant even kicka ball isnt wise.
Tribalism cant work in Zambia.Look at the UPND NEC then you wont have to say anymore about the stinking subject.
Finally being a leader doesnt always mean one has to be a president
Both PF and UPND have lost heavily due to the failed PACT.Both have let Zambians down big time.Hope lessons have been learnt
Since HH is under 5 just prepare some more amatebela (napkins) for him because its going to wild this election!
mmd must be happy
Good riddance to Sata and his bemba croonies who wanted to hoodwink HH by ridding on the tonga vote all the way to state house. Sata was never sincere from the word go; all he wanted was to use use HH. Even the people crying the loudest on this forum are PF cadres who thought UPND was going to be hoodwinked. Lets see how sata will get to state house now!! He might need the services of a witch’s broomstick because ya kosa manje!!
Too many small brains in zambia. No substance in debates except Tonga/Bemba
Tonga/Lozi/Bemba are not the only people in zambia.
Stop using Tonga/Bemba. be ashamed real Tongas and bemba don’t buy it
Viva One Zambia. Do you still want KK wamuyaya?
PF has only a pact with PEOPLE. The change we desire is on the horizon with or without HH and SATA together. DONCHI KUBEBA soldier on,majority of the people are with PF.Let anybody talk, insult, the vote with speak louder than worlds after all. God Bless.
This is typical of the tribe which has tribalism engraved in its blood. Tongaz cant work with anyone they are too self. You are lying on the political death bed. I would have been suprised if this tonga ridden party could have managed to work in the pact.
Well done HH. This is what we have been longing for since the PF poor finishers started behaving like dogs. Don’t waste any more time; set the ball rolling and kick start the campaigns. We will not leave you alone but we walk with you through and through. You are the best man for Zambia so far and we can’t wait to see you president. You are the answers to many of our problems here in Zambia. Stop thinking about the PACT and PF anymore; one thing you should know is that Sata will never be president of this country. He will never never never.
HH is a zambian who should be allowed to express himself and contest any election in the Land. It is surprising that when sata insults,storms media houses and looks down on his friends no one condemns him especially his Kingmen. Shame on you! lets gets Civilised and choose Quality,not crooks,tired politicians who have served in ANC,UNIP,MMD and PF. The experience they learnt is fake,retrogressive and corrupt. They carry no new ideas. Sata represents the failed generation and very undiscerning group of politicians. They cannot catch the new trends of development. Woe unto you who support on cheap tribal lines.
The failure of the Pact is due to the failure of leadership in Sata. Previous underlying information was that HH had accepted his position to be Vice President and thus leaving the door open for Sata to be the President. However, Sata allowed himself to be misguided by a loose canon in Wynter Kabimba and thus sidelined the cool head of Lubinda as PF Spokesperson. As things stand MMD have a clear way to rig and win the elections by a small magin of 30,000 seeing HH will get his handful that would have been sufficient for the pact to eliminate MMD. I declare my interest as a very disappointed follower of PF. Sata has blown his only chance he had of becoming Republican President. HH join MMD and become Republican Vice President and thus ensuring your Presidency by 2016
I salute you HH dont worry Sata is old even if you dont make it this time your time is coming.You can can still stand own your own.You have been insulted by the PF.Enough is enough what of a patiner is.
Wise people say charity begins at home. For anyone to be accepted as a national leader he should be accepted first by his own people .In this vein, there is no problem for RB, HH and MC sata to be supported by the regions they come from. What matters is their track record. We have nothing to fear accept if we forget our history. Why we feel Sata cannot be president
1 He is inconsistent. What he did BY Mwila and team.
2 What he did to Sakwiba sikota and ULP.
3 Defending the third term for chiluba.
5. chawama saga.
6. To win support , he started the issue of tribalism. He accused any body who never supported MMD then as tribalist.
7 . Protecting evil intention by winter Kabimba
8. Insulting the people of Northwestern province.
9. Doest not respect the freedom of the press. i.e. t
Why we feel Sata cannot be president
1 He is inconsistent. What he did BY Mwila and team.
9. Doest not respect the freedom of the press. i.e. the case of daily mail, MObi TV, Muvi TV.
10 Not respecting the pact partner. Eg in Chilanga, Mporokoso , sesheke. He was the first person to frustrate the pact by saying he will field MPs in all constituencies.
11. wanted to dethrone the LItunga by not recognizing him as the king.
12. Not thankful to people when he is in problems .
13. His insincere marriage with the Post which has considered him as our savior or some supreme being. Who only does right things?
14. Using father Bwalya to dethrone the government before elections.
15. His under 5 message.
With this it is my humble prayer that let God alone give us the president of his choice.
If sata wont be president of Zambia Then it is worse for HH . This man confessed that UPND can not an election in its current state. I wonder where suddenly he has got the courage to stand for elections. be consistent ba HH
its a stalemate then but please tribalists dont even fo.ol your silly selves that Sunny Chintombwa will have a walk in the park in 2016 because we determined to cause you even more heart aches and extend your wait beyond our life time. Sunny Chintombwa can’t just turn up and straight away walk into statehouse he needs to do it Mazoka style by starting with ward elections then climb his way up.
Im suprised to see how tonga’s nd th al meaningful southern province to be sold by 1 simple ch.Ka.La nd denied a chance to participate in th wind öf change mind you hh is a neighbough to chiluba im sure a huge envelope pased thru a bck door tongas nd lozis wake up or else they wil never be a president frm those ends
Its not done yet!! you guys are group 3s! read between the lines and seat back and enjoy this secretive drama unfold before ur foggy eyes! Sata and HH have a big game beyond MMD! watch!!!! Sata and HH will be elected and they know what they are doing! political assassination to MMD and pact rules!
Pro PF bloggers be advised that Tongas will always be Tongas. I did my senior High School studies in Southern prov and even stayed there for five years. Late Andy bragged that he was headboy at Kasama Boys and never spoke “their Bemba”. Yes there are a few enlightened Tongas out there but their tribal inclination is deep rooted. I was once Sejani and Madyenkuku’s tenant and my experience was a roller coaster. HH has made the same mistake Mazoka made. DO NOT SURROUND YOURSELF WITH FELLOW TONGAS!!!
# 96 says “If in this life only you have hope in Politics, you are of all men most miserable”. I totally agree with this. Unfortunately the reality of an impoverished underdeveloped country like Zambia is that politics runs the show. Politicians literally hold the reins of power and therefore dictate the terms and pace of development. If you have a crop of mindless power hungry politicians with no patriotism or national vision, then you get Zambia. Full of all the potential but struggling to get a start on real development. Our politicians all either want to lead the country as president whether qualified, experienced or not or just want to hold high office for the sake of self preservation and not out of sacrifice for the country. Hence we’ll always remain as we are (see part 2).
:d, I wonder what is going to happen after the elections. It looks like our OLD MEN are the most power hungry. Anyway the many reason is that they do not care whatever happens to the poorest is not their problem as long they stay in power and have sweet on their tables.
Over taken by developments HH this time you could have been leader of the house and you could be of great help to shape public police for equity access to quality services, manje ntota ba HH.